2) BRONTES OF HAWORTH (Part 2)

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  • Part 2 of a lovely tho dated 4 part historical drama from YTV about the Brontes of Haworth. First aired back in the 70s.
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  • @SarahLouiseA
    @SarahLouiseA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This continues to be the most authentic drama about the Brontes I have ever seen. The location, music, script and acting are first class.

    • @DaleJoyce
      @DaleJoyce  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for your comment Sarah, I'm really pleased you enjoyed the upload! 😘

    • @jwilcox4726
      @jwilcox4726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you know? Love to hear this reply I really would.

    • @jmitch5161
      @jmitch5161 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apart from the posh southern accent!

    • @goodstorylover
      @goodstorylover ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like it too, but in my opinion the most accurate, very realistic version is To Walk Invisible: The Bronte Sisters (from 2016)

  • @deborahrobertson8606
    @deborahrobertson8606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Beautifully acted. I watched this long ago, when I was 12, in 1973. The old adaptations rarely fail me. In fact, as I revisit them, they are better than ever. More will be spent these days, but actors are in the main, irredeemably modern. We have lost connection with the old world & no longer understand how they viewed life. Most actresses sound like they went to the local comp. England was profoundly class based. It's like Indian actors trying to enact drama from their country with absolutely no understanding of caste. Good or bad, that was the reality then. Thank heaven for classic, older adaptations.

    • @eunicestone838
      @eunicestone838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watched them long ago but it's a cold day and here I am it's my blankie and heating pad. All snug.

    • @Kevin-n3m6q
      @Kevin-n3m6q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very well said.. Completely agree!

  • @brianbeergah7649
    @brianbeergah7649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm a member of the Australian Bronte Association...what lovely souls they all were and are!!!

    • @DaleJoyce
      @DaleJoyce  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How wonderful tho Brian that the impact they have had reaches out to souls even today the world over like yourself, who obviously feels what they was about, I'm lucky enough to live near Bronte country and visit often, in fact I've just been camping there this very weekend past 10th to 13th of July in the grounds of a place called . . . WUTHERING HEIGHTS INN, heaven on earth my friend, more so when on the Sunday while sitting outside the Bronte parsonage museum (A place I've visited many times) I watched live on my phone my beloved Leeds United win away at Swansea 0-1 hahaha a great lil hol all in all.

    • @brianbeergah7649
      @brianbeergah7649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DaleJoyce Lucky U- if I ever go to England again- Haworth is on the list- that place must , and obviously has their vibe/spirit- great place to sit -chill and read and ponder all the things they would-I know everyone and every women is different and unique--but they are my ideal/s of what a women should be like- feminine, yet strong- creative- quirky but super sensitive to the world around them-sweet but daring-they suffered no fools- they pack a great deal of personality punch in the persons

    • @DaleJoyce
      @DaleJoyce  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brianbeergah7649 I totally agree Brian re the Bronte family, and you yourself obviously feel the true spirit of Haworth all those miles away, you only need a short moorland walk, or to sit on main street, walk thru the church yard or by the parsonage to be taken back to a different time and place, I believe you can really feel the spirituality and magic in the air from a bygone time, it envelopes all around you. My go to place for keeping sane in this crazy paced world we live in 😊

    • @menendez-ghoul89
      @menendez-ghoul89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live in England and hopefully I’ll go to Haworth, I love the Brontes and of course Branwell. I’ve got a book full of some of Branwell’s work, poems and short stories.

    • @dawonfields4662
      @dawonfields4662 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@brianbeergah7649 I feel bad for charolott she died during the first few weeks of pregnancy in 1855 on march 30

  • @menendez-ghoul89
    @menendez-ghoul89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think it’s sad what happened to Branwell. His mental health clearly went down and he had so much potential. I don’t think he’s the monster people think he is.

  • @jamesrouillardjas1671
    @jamesrouillardjas1671 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is really an astonishing production. It feels to me like history filmed. Thank all for its creation.

    • @markhodgson2348
      @markhodgson2348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It can only truly be filmed in Yorkshire

  • @jamiedianne6778
    @jamiedianne6778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Michael Kitchen really gives a sympathetic portrayal of Branwell. Beautifully acted!

  • @TheRickie41
    @TheRickie41 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Every time I study and enjoy one of the Brontës’ wonderful novels or poems, I remember this series, so true, it seems, to the period and what might have bien their lives. The acting is alltogether marvellous and sensitive, the realization respectful and passioned.

    • @DaleJoyce
      @DaleJoyce  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very well said Ricky, I couldn't agree more 👏👏👏

    • @jwilcox4726
      @jwilcox4726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DaleJoyce Hi Dale, I get circles so they won't let me write. I guess. Love these old shows no commercials ever. Can't corolate the different timings. Jeanie Hill. x

  • @vcom2327
    @vcom2327 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kitchen as a very young man, what a shock!

  • @davidbrasher3595
    @davidbrasher3595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I am kind of surprised how nice Branwell is. I once listened to a critique about how all three Bronte sisters used Branwell as a model for characters in their books. Rochester who was nice once Jane got to know him. The monstrous Heathcliff who Catherine could not help but passionately love. And the abusive drunken Huntingdon who Helen has to flee from. Branwell does not seem like any of those characters. He mostly seems like an irresponsible dreamer short on practical life skills. Not a dark mysterious cruel monster.

    • @juliell2139
      @juliell2139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      'easily bruised'

    • @juliell2139
      @juliell2139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the gentleman even says "I wish we could acclimatize you to the middle Earth, instead of the extremes of paradise and hell". Sounds like bi-polar.

    • @menendez-ghoul89
      @menendez-ghoul89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel for Branwell. He had a lot of talent, he met that women and then things got worse. I read his biography and it was really sad. I also read somewhere that they suspect he might’ve developed bipolar or something. Not 100% sure though.

    • @hiyetu34
      @hiyetu34 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Branwell comes across as very high spirited , charismatic and generous to his friends and associates .

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Branwell was nothing like the characters in his sisters books, unless possibly the drunken and weak Huntington in Tenant. Characters like Heathcliff and Rochester were based loosely on Byron and Byronic heroes...

  • @harmoniabalanza
    @harmoniabalanza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yes poor Branwell. Sensitive artistic people often struggle for balance. They see things others don't And feel.
    It's torture much of the time. Drugs and alcohol don't work, but often that's where they go. I know, been there.
    He wanted to be a man, but his delicacy of spirit prevented that. He put on a brave front, poor dear boy. Very well acted here.

  • @chrishall62
    @chrishall62 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Michael Kitchen (Inspector Foyle) in his younger days!

  • @brianbeergah7649
    @brianbeergah7649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sad, how they hoped to be establish and independent, but death claimed them instead.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They did achieve some literary success and Charlotte made some money from her novels

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @3rrlia I would say 2 geniuses, Charlotte and Emily.. But yes Mr Bronte was an unsual man himself having risen from a farming family in Ireland to being a clergyman.. and his intelligence was inherited by his children

    • @brianbeergah7649
      @brianbeergah7649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @3rrlia Indeed they achieved heaps-much more than most people (us included)Massive odds- try one more- Their brother was just as talented as they-their father tutored them all-but mostly Bramwell (the older brother) they were bohemians way before the concept/term was ever coined- the quality of the persons- their art/writing/speech- rich beyond measure

  • @melissakrauss1266
    @melissakrauss1266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Did Bramwell suffer from depression? If that's so, maybe drinking and the opium was a self -medication that eventually destroyed his life?

    • @eunicestone838
      @eunicestone838 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bramwell liked the drugs and alcohol! From a very young age.

    • @menendez-ghoul89
      @menendez-ghoul89 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people think he might’ve even had symptoms of bipolar, but it is more than likely he suffered with depression, and alcohol is a depressant which would’ve made it worse.

  • @verenamaharajah6082
    @verenamaharajah6082 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I believe all four of the children were suffering from depression due to the deaths of their mother and two elder sisters. I wish this production had showed the reality of a family living with a drunkard who was becoming an alcoholic. The scene in part one should have showed the girls upset at being woken up by a drunken Bramwell who then vomited on the stairs, which of course the girls would have cleaned up, but the next day Bramwell would have no memory of the trouble he had caused. The stress of hiding the shame of their brothers self destructive behaviour would have made things worse. No wonder they felt so compelled to escape into fantasy worlds.

    • @dabear2438
      @dabear2438 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And worse.... having people nearly two centuries later still calling him "Bramwell" when his name was "Branwell". 🙄

    • @verenamaharajah6082
      @verenamaharajah6082 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dabear2438 Sorry, an easy mistake to make.

  • @gloriahanes6490
    @gloriahanes6490 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Part 2 of a lovely tho dated 4 part historical drama....The setting was 1840 how more dated can you get, I believe the setting though done in the 70's is very accurate.

    • @blessOTMA
      @blessOTMA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Indeed. They used the very Parsonage as a set! Couldn't do that today.

    • @DaleJoyce
      @DaleJoyce  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      by dated I meant filming and camera techniques silly ;-)

  • @philipwelshman9609
    @philipwelshman9609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Speaking as a New Zealander, there is nothing strange about living in NZ.

    • @blessOTMA
      @blessOTMA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Indeed, but for a single woman in the 1840's....it was.

    • @erniebakeswell9623
      @erniebakeswell9623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha it’s been tamed!

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blessOTMA it was indeed very brave of Mary T to go out there and open her own business

    • @PARIS-FRANCE
      @PARIS-FRANCE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🥰🐞🤗🦜🤩🌈👋

  • @harmonydreamers
    @harmonydreamers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked the cheerful, happy scenes... oh wait, there weren't any. Drama, drama, drama. Tomorrow I'll call my shrink LoL. Thanks for the videos :)

  • @katharinedavis4947
    @katharinedavis4947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought i recognised a very young Michael Kitchen . ! K

    • @jesuslovesme1956
      @jesuslovesme1956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very young in deed. Hardly recognized him. Horrible wig, lol

    • @blessOTMA
      @blessOTMA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, and he his my favorite Branwell from all of the films about the family

  • @moon-bean
    @moon-bean 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    branwell is so relatable

  • @charlottebruce979
    @charlottebruce979 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Surely they would all have had a Yorkshire accent considering they lived in Yorkshire, went to school in yorkshire, were born in Yorkshire and had friends from yorkshire. According to Ellen Nussey, Charlotte's best friend, when Charlotte first arrived at school she spoke with an Irish accent which isn't surprising considering her only parent alive was her northern Irish father and he was a huge influence on her life.

    • @RiaLake
      @RiaLake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not with the isolated education they had at home or the school for children of the clergy. They were not allowed to mix with other children in Haworth and would have been brought up to speak English without a regional accent as well spoken young ladies. According to Elizabeth Gaskell, Mr Bronte had no trace of an Irish accent left when she knew him and other biographers noted that it was mostly eradicated at Cambridge.

    • @charlottebruce979
      @charlottebruce979 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RiaLake it's well documented by her life long friend Mary Taylor that at the start of her school life she had a Irish accent, you can find reference to it in many of Charlotte Bronte's biographies. As time went on surrounded by Yorkshire friends with Yorkshire accents she may well have picked up a Yorkshire accent as modern children also do when they move from place to place. Probably not the broad accent that the servants, Tabby and Martha would have had, indeed the sisters laughed at the way they pronounced certain things etc but nevertheless an accent of sorts. They probably had never heard a southern accent till they went to London in their twenties, except from their Cornish aunt who would have had a Penzance accent. What exactly does a ' a well spoken young ladies' accent sound like' ? Perhaps you mean a received pronouciation accent, or AP as it is better known, that only aristocrat, upper classes and royalties had? Again there is no evidence for this, Elizabeth Gaskell herself from Manchester never noted an accent far removed from a Yorkshire one, but then again we shall never know for sure.I will look up the documented evidence that Patrick lost his accent, although with evidence Charlotte had a 'strong' Irish accent at the start of school it would be interesting to know where she got this from. Maybe Patrick " poshed up" for Mrs Gaskell.

    • @nilecrocodileRobyn
      @nilecrocodileRobyn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, I agree they would have had regional accents. The 70s drama dates itself by this alone! Plus, the wigs are terrible! :)@@charlottebruce979

    • @crickcrot
      @crickcrot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They used an every day English accent because of the people of other parts of Britain and the world could understand what they are saying.

    • @Was31ist7das69Ziel
      @Was31ist7das69Ziel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not "simply" hear the person you're talking of for yourself -- in a seance with famous direct voice medium Leslie Flint in 1973 ?!
      Here she comes, in a new spirit shape, as a matter of course: th-cam.com/video/gJI7nYN6hdo/w-d-xo.html

  • @kimmccabe1422
    @kimmccabe1422 ปีที่แล้ว

    Emily knee best her brother's mental illness and his addiction to alcohol and opiates. But for writers to sexulize their relationship is sick n wrong. The house was simply too crowded and very attached to the church...geez. Can't go wrong with a story of the Brontes

  • @jamesrouillardjas1671
    @jamesrouillardjas1671 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, that poor porter hauling the trunk behind Charlotte & her schoolgirl pal while they leisurely pause and chat! No two-wheelers available then?
    Tug your forelock, churl , and be grateful for a tip!
    And it’s a treat to see a YOUNG Oliver Ford Davies (4:19) briefly as Mr. Thompson when Bromwell meets other folks over a pint in Bradford

  • @thedustdevil
    @thedustdevil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    damnnn m. paul really does look like m. heger

  • @zoewilson5114
    @zoewilson5114 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Molly Elizabeth vickria Alexandrianna Marie Louise Catherine kharollte March
    And Nicklaus Louie Ryan Edward James Arthur William Henry Oliver March

  • @marianasteluta
    @marianasteluta 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤍

  • @Baffled-f9d
    @Baffled-f9d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you.

  • @jamesrouillardjas1671
    @jamesrouillardjas1671 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if Aunt Branwell might prefer use of the word “spittle” to “spit?”
    …”sputum…?

  • @zoewilson2880
    @zoewilson2880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mary Josephine franssca louise eilzabeth jane alice Taylor

  • @TheForkhandles
    @TheForkhandles 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lamentably unmulticultural production.

    • @DaleJoyce
      @DaleJoyce  5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Because that is how Haworth was back then . . history should not be changed to be politicly correct . . now that would be lamentable my friend.

    • @TheForkhandles
      @TheForkhandles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DaleJoyce It was a tongue in cheek comment Dale. I missed this programme back in the 70s. Maybe it was only shown in the Yorkshire TV area. Thanks for putting it up mate.

    • @DaleJoyce
      @DaleJoyce  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheForkhandles Oops! Sorry for being a bone head my friend 😂

    • @michaelbrittain7445
      @michaelbrittain7445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In fairness to Dale, that DID look like one of those short sighted Lib-bigot remarks you might find in the Guardian or some BBC topical prog. I'm SO glad you were joking, I can guarantee some of the more thoroughly indoctrinated will be thinking that thought in real earnest....
      I'm still laughing at the forced insertion of an Asian female blacksmith into the Beowulf series set in 8th century Scandinavia....!? I would find it just as funny if a Yorkshire lass turned up as the chief of a tribe in "Roots" btw.

    • @kathleenensor9981
      @kathleenensor9981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@poetryjones7946 This is a superb series I missed on first broadcast.I Love Anne since thomk she is the most underrated of the Bronte sisters.

  • @MichaelSmith-tp1pj
    @MichaelSmith-tp1pj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Part 3 anyone.

    • @DaleJoyce
      @DaleJoyce  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ive uploaded all 4 parts my friend .

    • @dr.elizabethmartin7118
      @dr.elizabethmartin7118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks, Dale - very kind of you............cheers!