Is a Locked Diff Good or Bad? (Pros and Cons of a Locked Diff in a Basher)
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- Don’t buy a Locked Diff unless you are a Drag Racer, you like Drifting, or have 0 traction Whatsoever or Just really like it. Like and SUBSCRIBE!!!
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This guy knows his shit. His crocs are even in 4wd.
I was looking for a comparison video and this is exactly what I needed. You should try is pro-line wheels with the aluminum hubs btw. It’s a game changer
love your vids keep up!!
Honestly, I agree with you on avoiding diff locks for an off-road basher. I tried one in my 2WD Rustler and in less than one battery pack, I took it out and put my stock diff back in. Even with dedicated off-road basher tires, the truck would immediately start to spin out with even the slightest steering input and it got really annoying really fast. At least with the stock diff, the truck was more predictable and drifts were more controlable.
Look up the washer mod for the stock diff, best of both worlds and its free! I did it to my 2wd Rustler Brushless and it finally is controllable without either spinning out too easily or loosing traction on one wheel and having that wheel spin up and balloon and cause handling isssues, etc..
Ideally would be a Oil Filled Diff so you can tune it with the Diff Oil WT. One day i will try out the HobbyRC aluminum Oil Rear Diff for the 2WD rustler, slash, & bandit/etc..
If your not braking parts your not having fun.. 🔥
Amen 🙏
If you are "braking" parts, you probably aren't having fun...
@dwaynewilliams3077 definitely not fun. I want it on the street/dirt not the workbench 24/7
You can use a really thick grease in the stock diff or add some silicon ear plugs inside and get a more resistance to replicate an lsd. Could have a balance of both
That’s what I do
Nice moccasins lol👍👍 cool 📸 I have the hot racing sealed diff for my 2 wheel drive rustler & I'm using 100K silicone diff fluid so it's not 100% locked but maybe 90% locked or something runs good tho
Do you drag Witt it
i got locked the center drif of my kraton exb 8s and not issues at all and is a beast on and off road! i got proline street belted tire and proline off road belted tires
I don’t lock mine all the way. but I put wax ear plugs in the diff to really stiffen them up a lot.
Not sure about this difflocking business has always seemed a little silly to me to be honest... but will drop a sub because either your a genious content creator or the gods of hilarious timing love you. Either way thaks for sharing.
BTW you can get some of the metal bearings same exact size as the factory bearings for like $10 after shipping from Amazon
Mine were Apex
I have some bearings.
Right on cool, I was just telling you about the metal bearings because they're supposed to keep the dirt out longer so in turn would keep your bearings in better shape so try a set of those out they're actually a dollar cheaper than the OEM bearings next time you need a set of them. I just threw one in my slipper clutch spur ⚙️I would like to try a set in my wheels but mine are still fresh so no reason to waste/change them yet
Lol love the commentary, diff lock deff only good for Drag setup imo. Works well if you use REALLY thick Diff oil. Think I have 100k oil in my 2wd slash instead of locker. it was virtually undrivable with a locker on 3s on the road around corners so I took it back out
When I seen the Crocs I was done lmfao 😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆💃💃💃🤙🤙
cool video
Always good to make sure those wheel nuts are tight. Just like on a real car.
Yep 👍 They we’re tight but sadly the torque of my hex driver is no match for the torque of the motor. SUBSCRIBE!!!
If you're running 4WD I always prefer locking the front diff or packing it with very thick grease but leave the rear diff open. It makes the car much less twitchy and pulls harder and straighter out of corners. You can compensate (if possible) by dialing in a bit more steering angle if you need it. Also helps with offroad just as much if not more than locking the rear diff. Locking rear diffs make cars twitchy under power and traction loss, front diff makes it more stable. Only lock both if you're into hardcore rock crawling and preferably have front and rear steer.
Ofcoarse some cars might be fun with a locked rear diff, I have some cheap WLToys that spins the inners rear tire on hard cornering, packed the rear diff with thick grease on that one, now corners much nicer, more fun to drive.
Great comment man. I agree. I’ve been putting thicker fluid in my front diffs for awhile now I notice a good improvement in handling. Thanks for watching! SUBSCRIBE!!!
I was thinking this too. I have not really driven RC but real rally cars and the front LSD is stiffer than rear just for this reason.
Might be worth trying bushings to c which would fail sooner a bearing or a bushing
I have a Xmaxx 8S. Front diff is stock, center diff is stock too, rear diff is totally locked lol.
I removed the rear diff, and I installed the Hot Racing spool. Rear locked axle on a Xmaxx is a must! It helps off reading so much too! Your always three wheel drive minimum. It makes crawling over terrain much easier. And it puts down full and evenly distributed power to both rear tires at the same time. I love it!!
I have seen no side effects to a locked rear end on an 8S X-Maxx. It works and i’ll never go back to an open diff!
Yeah I’ve never even thought of a locked XMaxx Diff. I’m Glad that you like it, but locked Diffs aren’t for me. What I’d do if it were me is just add some thicker diff fluid because I always want something to give. I do a lot of jumping and racing around so I just want it to give and have some good turning without drifting. Also I don’t want to tear up my yard too much. I might need to update this video and explain it again in better detail and depth. SUBSCRIBE 👍
He's also 4WD in the X-Maxx. Totally different setups to run vs a 2WD Offroad or even on road car. Plus the Xmaxx comes with 3 real oil Diffs like a 1/8 scale 4wd racing buggy...
there good in a 4tec for road racing in turns i locked my front diff
Newbie here, so locking diff is beneficial only for straight smooth roads and drifting? For off roads and crawlers would the unlock diff better?
For high speed off road (this is called an RC Basher) like this car here it is not good I think. For crawlers it is essential because an unlocked/open Diff will allow the wheel with less grip to spin and the crawler will lose grip and not send power to the wheels with grip. In a basher I think it is bad and in a low speed crawler I think it is very good 👍
You NEVER want unlocked/limited slip diffs in a crawler. Any steering benifit open Diffs offer crawling is negated 10 fold by the lack of grippy-ness lol. Locked everything for a crawler and proper Akerman front is key.
Bashing/general speed running is personal preference/setup dependant 🤷♂️
Plus more drive shafts get broken but I’ll just buy a mental drive draft I use a 2wd amp mt
Always use the "mental" shaft
Just wanna correct you on 1 thing locked diff doesn’t destroy bearings if your racing on a track. It destroys bearings when you sit there and do doughnuts for a period of time.
Doing donuts is called bashing
I’m talking about locked diffs on Bashers
But I understand where you’re are coming from
@@joshsrcs upgrade to the aluminum hubs with ball bearings i havent destroyed one yet
chris metal Wilson Ummmmmm clearly you didn’t see that I have metal hubs and ball bearings. I’ve always had ball bearings as I bought it new as a VXL and I got metal hubs about a month after I got the truck.
@@joshsrcs thats wierd man cause i have strc hubs and havent had one issus i also am running on 2.8 badlands
I'm running rustler on 4s and don't destroy the bearings. Yeah aluminum hub / bearing carriers for me no problems over 1 year.
How is it for speed runs? Probably not good. If my transmission isn't as smooth did bend a gear or hurt my differential
I don’t know I think you should probably take it apart and see 👍
Your wheels don't have bearings in the rim, it just came loose, you have to check all the time unless you won't to blow out hex of the rim. Locked diff are heaps better but just be more careful when shutting of throttle or going into reverse in air. You can snap drive rods on diff easier.
Hello bro, this Locked Diff, means in the rear diff or both front and rear or at center diff?
In this car there is only one Diff, the rear Diff. But you can lock any Diff be it the front, rear, or center Diff 👍
@@joshsrcs Well noted bro, thank you for response. Nice video, great job!
Can I get in on this.🤓. I have a 1/8 losi xxl converted to electric.. on 6s rn.
X01 motor & pinion. MM2 esc..
THING RIPPS!! When I upgrade the esc I'll try a 8s run.. but I can't because I KEEP blowing the rear diff.. tranny holds up nice for my style of driving.. I don't track race or jump often or any other acrobatics..lol If only I can lock that rear end!!I I attempted to lock one with epoxy but I'm not sure I used the right epoxy or let it sit long enough cause it didn't hold.. any ideas. I know there's going to be a weak points on the truck, I'll change axles.. I just want to lock the rear end.. is there a spool or something for that or a technique to lock it it's kind of a heavy truck and it puts down a lot of power...
Look for a good spool on eBay or try and do the correct epoxy. JB weld is good, but don’t forget to clean out the diff before installing it.
I have a 4x4 😂😂 Arrma typhone 3s so now if we do that.. hahah I'm very very curious
Ok sounds like diff lock at least for the rear is bad idea. It won't steer properly and destroy your wheels! Maybe good with crawler or really loose ground like sand, snow?
Exactly. Front is normally fine to lock on almost any off-road terrain. For a Crawler it is a necessity. SUBSCRIBE!!!
If you get a lot of snow where you live and have one of these 2wd trucks, 100% get a spool. You will rarely get stuck and will actually be able to enjoy the truck on a slippery surface.
Also just want to say that I have had a spool on my rustler for a while and haven't had any of these issues. This video really makes it seem terrible, however with a proper suspension setup and tires it absolutely rips offroad.
I’m glad it worked in your case. Thanks for watching!
I was thinking of doing my rear diff for crawling but maybe not.
I would recommend locking either the front, rear, or both for crawling. SUBSCRIBE!!!
I like locking diff
Get a magnet and scroll around the yard and you should find important screws and lost nuts
I’ve done it a few times to recover parts
I was going to do this to my taraxxas slash but my dad said no
It’s a Good thing He Said no Because you would have had a lot of Problems
Dad: "soooooo let me get this straight. You want my earplugs because... You want to rip apart the very expensive and perfectly functional toy i bought you... replace the grease in the differential with said earplugs with a near certainty of breaking multiple parts repeatedly so you can what again.....?
CHILD: spin in circles way more better!
DAD: ........ your Flipping grounded for even thinking that.... and i dont want you hanging out with that Kevin guy anymore!!
Diff lock Good or bad ?
See video. It really depends on what you are doing with the car most of the time. For bashing, NO!
@@joshsrcs thanks bro 🙏
In one of my bashers I’m gonna lock both diffs for longer battery life on it, and way smaller pinion, I don’t mind having to spend a lot on bearings I’ll just bulk buy wheel hub bearings
Upgrade to aluminum hubs with ball bearings i run the 2.8 badlands and havent broke anything just driveshafts. Also my diff is locked
Locked Diffs will most likely not give more battery life, they will most likely take more battery power because there is more stress on the motor and you will have to pull the trigger more to overcome grip on wheels with traction. A smaller pinion will also decrease run time because the motor has to spin faster to get to the same speeds as you had on your last pinion.
@@joshsrcs I got more life but lost a motor to it
(Almost) Exactly as I thought... Lol
you land with the wheels spinning at top speed... im surpriced the whole gearbox didnt explode on you.
That’s what happens when you play with an RC car. The wheels sometimes have to spin in air to correct a nose dive. It’s either a nose dive and a broken chassis or a little bit more stress on the gearbox.
That's what the slipper clutch is for.
Use jimsbearings out of FL
HAHAHA that wheel
On a locked diff the tiers have equal ballonage
Yes
Oh or the hex stripped lol. Guess I should have watched it all before I commented
And… so I can get the watch time. 🤫🤫🤫
Get a book on performance diffs and open that up and redo this video..............
My opinion was that locked Diffs are bad in bashers and you may have a different opinion on that and I don’t care. The locked diff destroyed my rustler and I’ll never go back to it again. SUBSCRIBE!!!
@@joshsrcs honestly i think im going to lock the rear diff on my typhon... I use it mainly for drifting so....
on asphalt/carpet I use hoons tires (low grip, hard compound, perfect for drifting), lowered suspension and heavy diff oil
on anything offroad it's usually the stock tires, higher suspension (for ground clearance, nothing more) and heavy diff oil
both work fine but I want to get more out of it, so now I think I am going to lock the rear diff. good or bad idea? we'll see
That’s fine by me because I think 1 of the things I said they are good for is drifting. It should be fine overall with just a little more maintenance over time. Good Luck 👍
@@joshsrcs Thanks! but I'm not sure about 1 more thing... since this car is all wheel drive, should I am wondering if I should lock both the rear and the front diffs, or just the rear?
If you lock the rear you will get understeer and when you give it throttle you will get oversteer. With the rear Diff locked understeer and oversteer will be more extreme than with an unlocked diff. With a front locked diff I think you will just have some understeer. And with all locked your steering will be crap and you’ll have to give it throttle to drift to make it turn.
Won't give more top speed but everything else is on point
Did I say that because it sounds like something me from a few months ago would say
Those are on road tires bro.
In this video the rustler was on Traxxas anaconda tires. Which are a grippy on/off-road tire. I’ve had the exact same thing happen on Traxxas talon tires which come stock on the stampede. They are off-road tires with an aggressive tread and they spun out very easily. Doesn’t matter what tire ya got because with a locked diff you will break traction easily. Some people like it, some people don’t. This is my opinion so take it lightly. 👍
@@joshsrcs I have the same exact tires on my rustler and they are not at all for off road buddy. No traction what so ever.
But I did hit 71mph on those tires if you wanna check out my video. Thanks for responding🏁
No thanks Buddy.
@@joshsrcs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What you got the "look at me ya'll" syndrome? TH-cam fame is hilarious. I'm already legendary and yt had nothing to with that. Didn't mean to upset you champ. Just know what you're talking about before dropping the vid
TH-cam fame? I’ve got 500 subs. This video was just me voicing my opinions as I thought them up. I’ll redo this video with a proper script and careful planning in the near future. How’s about you subscribe so you don’t miss it.