I loved this video. His technical presentation was spot on and his since of humor is heart warming. I’ve watched this video amongst others prior to deciding on the P6. I went with an Ania MC which means I added a Rega MC stage amp as well. I initially put the power supply and stage amp on the shelf below the tt. As all the videos suggest, this is not advisable as a hum noise may be noticed. I moved the power supply and the stage amp to the opposite side of the self and the hum noise was extinguished. Although I cannot compare between other setups/equipment, I feel I have an ear for quality. I am absolutely blown away and continue to be pleased with my equipment selections. I have upgraded from a 1987ish system. The new technology is astonishing. Rotel RC 1590 and RB 1590. Sill pushing my Klipsch II signature Edition and Sansui SPZ9 speakers. And with that, I’m off to the man cave and musical bliss. Peace.
Thank you, this was very well explained and highly informative, I want a P6 and was getting worried bt the horror stories, but your honest opinion has helped me decide.
Great review! I agree as former P6 Exact owner - very well described. I was able to achieve more micro-details and extension by moving to the apheta 3 cartridge from the Exact on my P6. My phono stage is a Bob's devices SUT going into a CJ PV12 phono stage only, then on to an LTA MZ3 pre. (Not impressed with the rega fono mc.) PS - lots of attention to isolation, on a shelf around the corner from my listening area. You are one of the most authentic and honest reviewers I have listened to.
Great description of your experiences with the tt; gives everyone a good idea of what to expect if they picked one of these up, which is of primary importance.
The problem with the plinth is not a joke. The plinth of my P6 was also bent. I've sent it back. Now I'm waiting for a new one. No go for this price, Rega. Shame on you!
I own my P6 less than a week. After listened to your comment about anti-sketch inaccuracy, I adjusted mine from 2.75g to "a hair less than 1g". I can hear more image balance between left and right channels. I have no test record just listening to a regular one so I'm not so sure about it.
I have been waiting for you to come up with this video, ever since the first one with Rega P6 unboxing came out. Thanks for posting your honest comments on this turntable. I fully agree with your thoughts. For it’s price the P6 with Exact cartridge is just fabulous. The Exact is very well balanced from top to bottom and sounds very neutral and very smooth indeed. I love mine too. I also found out that using the P6 without the dust cover sounds more open and cleaner. It is something you can try for yourself. For now, I just use a chopping board as a base for the P6 and it works well.
Lucky one your p6 has no sagging issue. Got mine 2month ago and it sagged clearly visible 1mm already. Also the back footprint has been somehow decrease size so I needed to put a coin underneath to get equalibrium of the platter. If things get worse I will return the unit and get a replacement. Hopefully this is possible as Rega seems to file this under tolerance. Also Azimuth is minimally wrong not giving sound issue but I expected more quality for the price
Great video 👍 Hum, motor noise, uneven plinth - shouldn’t even be relevant to discuss at this price point. I own a 2016 Planar 3 and have made an additional ground wire to reduce hum and bought a new metal motor thrust bearing to quiet down the motor. Now it is finally quiet 🤫 I am satisfied with the sound, but these quality issues are not okay. Really agree on the importance of the phono stage. I spent more on that than the cartridge.
You can use an anti skate disc (basically disc with no grooves) and find the right force so that the arm does not move in or out. Maybe an isoacoustic board?
If you don't want to hear motor noise don't put your ear down there. If you want to hear no surface noise motor noise, just perfect silence in the background, do what I did 40 years ago, buy a CD player. I have a vintage Toshiba SR 370 direct drive with a SME 3009 arm Shure V15III cartdridge, and a Rega P6 with the Ania MC and a Musical Fidelity X-Ray CD player. I love them all, but stop listening to faults, TURN IT UP and rock out to the sound.
Since I am not a reviewer, I bought my P6 and share my thoughts. At the moment, don't have plan to buy a technics TT yet. Sorry to disappoint you. But thank you for your support.
Though you give the Rega a good review, your comparison with the two hi-end systems is really not fair. A fairer comparison would have been to listen to the Rega in THOSE systems and compare it with the more expensive turntable. I’ll bet you would have been almost as impressed as you were with the expensive table.
Rega had reinvented the wheel which others like Linn and Thorens Pioneer and Technics already invented. Rega is selling you this new wheel in small portions and increments. The law of diminishing returns apply. But packaging and hype is great.
I think today the top match in hi-fi for all is between the Rega P6 vs Technics SL-1200GR. I chose the GR, and i am so happy with my decision :) I'm in love with my 1210GR. i had rega before and i loved them so much, but i wanted to upgrade and searched for a turntable that will be the one that have it all. No machine upgrades - just good cartridge and good to go! With the rega it's was just too much for me: belt upgrades, spacers, oil, the cover not closed with spacers... With the technics GR - a tank for lifetime. Very informative video thank you :)
I echo your sentiments. I am longtime Technics lover and helped friend purchase Rega 3. The build quality left me speechless in a bad way. Three legs, mdf, lightweight. Gimme the bombproof Technics any day. Personal choice of course.
I do love Technics and SL1200 is on my wish list . Just that no distributor in HK for it. Only parallel imported ones. So warranty is........ Need to check.
@@bitofthisanddad got mine from a parallel dealer - no warrany. I bought mine anyway with peace of mind - there are no unnecessary glitches with a brand new Technics turntable. connected with Nagaoka mp-200, a Schitt mani pre-amp, Onkyo a-9110 amplifier and a per of Kef ls-50 speakers. sounds like a dream! so crystal clear and stereo perfect that makes you jump and air drumming! Good luck and take care dear friend! greetings from Israel.
Thanks for your very insightful video. I have a Dual CS 5000 turntable with a MM Grado cartridge and have been thinking about getting the P6 with the MC cartridge. Not sure how much better or different it will be compared to what I already have. I have a NAC 58 preamp and the record player sounded decent. But once I moved up to a Parasound XRM phono preamp the sound was bigger and fuller. I am much happier with the sound I am getting that I am almost reluctant to move up to the P6...almost. Time will tell
Well I purchased the P6 and I found more detail, more open top end and a bass that was tight and full compared to the boomy bass of my old turntable. Great turntable and Ania cartridge.
So, what’s not to like? I’ll tell you. This TT’s tonearm does not accommodate cartridge swapping; thus, it’s not for those who enjoy cart experimentation.
I agree , you can't swap out carts very quick or easy , rega's are just to fussy belt driven , all to much hassle when all you want to do is play an LP without a ceremony of wondering if the deck is running perfect every time, and a sl 1200gr /gr2 /G just works perfectly time after time ,year in year out , I upgraded to the sl 1200g after 30 years constantly nursing a JA Michell focus one , I wouldn't wish all that time fettling on a belt drive etc on my worst enemy.
I guess you can have an experiment with different tracking force and see how it sounds. I just followed the spec at 1.75g and have not tried different weight,😂
I have a p6 with nagaoka mp500 and I got a Big jump in my vinyl reproduction quality when I went from an Ifi zen phono preamplifier to my trigon vanguard III phono preamplifier. The next level up from that would be the luxman phono 250.
@@mikechivymike Try that Trigon and and you will find out.The salesman told me to take it home and try it on your system and you will not bring it back. And he was absolutely right. I wouldn't dream of returning it.
@@eugenefudge1883 not doubting what you said. I just have a built in phono I’m my Yamaha and figured spending like 2-300 would be a big improvement. But your mentioning one that’s like closer to 1k so I’m wondering how much better each step is
@@mikechivy Mike I am not trying to sell you anything. I am telling you the zen Phono sound sounded better than the one in my macintosh ma252 and trigon sounds so much better. it's so much better . If you can Demo one.
Did you ever consider calling Rega in the South of England to problem shoot...? They are very helpful experts of their own equipment. They might have saved you multiple hours shooting and editing this vide.
Enjoyed your video. I also have the P6. Are you from HongKong? I’m living in Seoul right now studying East Asian Studies for my Bachelor’s degree. Maybe I can combine my studies with my hi-if hobby eventually.
Thank you. Yeah, in Hong Kong..... Interesting subject for your degree. I wish to travel to Seoul, but probably a year later when the pandemic situation is better.
@@bitofthisanddad Side bios is a compromise on any arm and should really always done by ear. You are eight Rega do use magnet and its not possible to get true 0 pull. All I was saying is the internal wiring of any arm when its moved across the record will twist and create a pull. Clear audio even use this as a way of adjusting side bios.
Meni to sve liči na OTIMANJE PARA jadnom siromašnom engleskom narodu ali to je njihov problem, REGA PLANNAR 3 je sasvim dobar, pristojne cene i jako lepo svira imao sam ga čak ovde u Srbiji! ovo je sve koješta!
Buying second hand turntable is easier said than done when considering all the adjustments and alignments needed for proper music reproduction,. Not mentioning the need to check the condition / operation of the 2nd hand TT and if necessary or unfortunately the need to fix problem in 2nd hand gear. Not everyone knows how to do that. Manufacturer has been trying to design TT with simple setup and operation so that more people can get into the hobby, creating a bigger space and eco system.
But women of the night don't sound as good. I tried putting on my favorite Mahavishnu Orchestra record on them and I found that they damage the vinyl. Rega 6 much better for records I found. Women of the night are terrible for sound and safety.
You're obviously clueless about turntables and have no idea how to set them up properly. It's this sort of false info that puts people off vinyl replay.
Look forward to your TH-cam channel and teach all of us about turntable setup. I am just a poor guy who can't even afford a proper rack for my turntable to sit on , and everytime I want to listen, I have to take it out of the closet ( the p6, not me) and place it just on a small table to listen .
I loved this video. His technical presentation was spot on and his since of humor is heart warming. I’ve watched this video amongst others prior to deciding on the P6. I went with an Ania MC which means I added a Rega MC stage amp as well. I initially put the power supply and stage amp on the shelf below the tt. As all the videos suggest, this is not advisable as a hum noise may be noticed. I moved the power supply and the stage amp to the opposite side of the self and the hum noise was extinguished. Although I cannot compare between other setups/equipment, I feel I have an ear for quality. I am absolutely blown away and continue to be pleased with my equipment selections. I have upgraded from a 1987ish system. The new technology is astonishing. Rotel RC 1590 and RB 1590. Sill pushing my Klipsch II signature Edition and Sansui SPZ9 speakers. And with that, I’m off to the man cave and musical bliss.
Peace.
Thank you, this was very well explained and highly informative, I want a P6 and was getting worried bt the horror stories, but your honest opinion has helped me decide.
Great review! I agree as former P6 Exact owner - very well described. I was able to achieve more micro-details and extension by moving to the apheta 3 cartridge from the Exact on my P6. My phono stage is a Bob's devices SUT going into a CJ PV12 phono stage only, then on to an LTA MZ3 pre. (Not impressed with the rega fono mc.) PS - lots of attention to isolation, on a shelf around the corner from my listening area. You are one of the most authentic and honest reviewers I have listened to.
Great description of your experiences with the tt; gives everyone a good idea of what to expect if they picked one of these up, which is of primary importance.
I just got one of these with the Ania cartridge and totally love the sound it extracts from albums.
The cantilever of your cartridge seems to sink quite a lot when it hits the record, maybe a check of the tracking force would be advisable.
I agree,way too low for my liking.
The problem with the plinth is not a joke. The plinth of my P6 was also bent. I've sent it back. Now I'm waiting for a new one. No go for this price, Rega. Shame on you!
Greetings from Belgium. Nice presentation. Charming, really.
Great review. Subscribed!
Which phono preamp did you pick for the P6 & Exact?
I own my P6 less than a week. After listened to your comment about anti-sketch inaccuracy, I adjusted mine from 2.75g to "a hair less than 1g". I can hear more image balance between left and right channels. I have no test record just listening to a regular one so I'm not so sure about it.
Great job sir, i have none of the problems with mine you went over, i love this TT!!... Subscribed!
I have been waiting for you to come up with this video, ever since the first one with Rega P6 unboxing came out. Thanks for posting your honest comments on this turntable. I fully agree with your thoughts. For it’s price the P6 with Exact cartridge is just fabulous. The Exact is very well balanced from top to bottom and sounds very neutral and very smooth indeed. I love mine too. I also found out that using the P6 without the dust cover sounds more open and cleaner. It is something you can try for yourself. For now, I just use a chopping board as a base for the P6 and it works well.
Thank you for your patience Eric and your support. Chopping board is a good idea. I shall see what's avaliable .
Here's a DIY for you to improve your p6. use 3in dia sorbathane half spheres under the Rega feet to control vibration.
Has a base. I use a concrete patio Stone 15" x 15" by two inches thick mounted on four sorbathane half spheres.
@@eugenefudge1883 thanks so much for your suggestion! I’ll try it.
Lucky one your p6 has no sagging issue. Got mine 2month ago and it sagged clearly visible 1mm already. Also the back footprint has been somehow decrease size so I needed to put a coin underneath to get equalibrium of the platter. If things get worse I will return the unit and get a replacement. Hopefully this is possible as Rega seems to file this under tolerance. Also Azimuth is minimally wrong not giving sound issue but I expected more quality for the price
Great video 👍
Hum, motor noise, uneven plinth - shouldn’t even be relevant to discuss at this price point. I own a 2016 Planar 3 and have made an additional ground wire to reduce hum and bought a new metal motor thrust bearing to quiet down the motor. Now it is finally quiet 🤫 I am satisfied with the sound, but these quality issues are not okay.
Really agree on the importance of the phono stage. I spent more on that than the cartridge.
Sounds great, do you have more information on the metal motor thrust bearing you are referring to? ,🙏
You can use an anti skate disc (basically disc with no grooves) and find the right force so that the arm does not move in or out. Maybe an isoacoustic board?
If you don't want to hear motor noise don't put your ear down there. If you want to hear no surface noise motor noise, just perfect silence in the background, do what I did 40 years ago, buy a CD player. I have a vintage Toshiba SR 370 direct drive with a SME 3009 arm Shure V15III cartdridge, and a Rega P6 with the Ania MC and a Musical Fidelity X-Ray CD player. I love them all, but stop listening to faults, TURN IT UP and rock out to the sound.
Hi, just curious, what phono preamp u used after Mani? how much gain u choosed when using mani 30db? Cheers
My old Rega also had residual Anti Skate at 0, its just an issue of the magnet based design that you mentioned Im sure.
All Rega arm is having a residue antiskating force.
I am using my 3rd Rega now, RB 250, RB 300 and Now RB700..all are having the same problem.
It's not static with the cartridge. It's how the cart is made. The damping is moving to its rest position. It's normal.... Don't worry
Great review , like the micro details and test. Would love to see a Technics 1200 mk7 review as a direct drive for hifi listening.
Since I am not a reviewer, I bought my P6 and share my thoughts. At the moment, don't have plan to buy a technics TT yet. Sorry to disappoint you. But thank you for your support.
Though you give the Rega a good review, your comparison with the two hi-end systems is really not fair. A fairer comparison would have been to listen to the Rega in THOSE systems and compare it with the more expensive turntable. I’ll bet you would have been almost as impressed as you were with the expensive table.
Awesome video. I enjoyed it.
Rega had reinvented the wheel which others like Linn and Thorens Pioneer and Technics already invented. Rega is selling you this new wheel in small portions and increments. The law of diminishing returns apply. But packaging and hype is great.
Is cartridge force too high ? Which amp are you using as several viewers are asking ?
I think today the top match in hi-fi for all is between the Rega P6 vs Technics SL-1200GR.
I chose the GR, and i am so happy with my decision :)
I'm in love with my 1210GR.
i had rega before and i loved them so much, but i wanted to upgrade and searched for a turntable that will be the one that have it all. No machine upgrades - just good cartridge and good to go!
With the rega it's was just too much for me: belt upgrades, spacers, oil, the cover not closed with spacers...
With the technics GR - a tank for lifetime.
Very informative video thank you :)
I echo your sentiments. I am longtime Technics lover and helped friend purchase Rega 3. The build quality left me speechless in a bad way. Three legs, mdf, lightweight. Gimme the bombproof Technics any day. Personal choice of course.
I do love Technics and SL1200 is on my wish list . Just that no distributor in HK for it. Only parallel imported ones. So warranty is........ Need to check.
1210gr is great
@@bitofthisanddad got mine from a parallel dealer - no warrany.
I bought mine anyway with peace of mind - there are no unnecessary glitches with a brand new Technics turntable.
connected with Nagaoka mp-200, a Schitt mani pre-amp, Onkyo a-9110 amplifier and a per of Kef ls-50 speakers.
sounds like a dream! so crystal clear and stereo perfect that makes you jump and air drumming!
Good luck and take care dear friend!
greetings from Israel.
@@JumbleTasteSpinning technics turntable is always a good choice. It is in my shopping list ...... Hoping to have one some day
Thanks for your very insightful video. I have a Dual CS 5000 turntable with a MM Grado cartridge and have been thinking about getting the P6 with the MC cartridge. Not sure how much better or different it will be compared to what I already have. I have a NAC 58 preamp and the record player sounded decent. But once I moved up to a Parasound XRM phono preamp the sound was bigger and fuller. I am much happier with the sound I am getting that I am almost reluctant to move up to the P6...almost. Time will tell
Well I purchased the P6 and I found more detail, more open top end and a bass that was tight and full compared to the boomy bass of my old turntable. Great turntable and Ania cartridge.
Hi, What phono preamp did you like better than the schiit mani? I have schiit mani 1 with rega p6 and was looking to upgrade. Thanks!
Try Michael fidler, his phono stages are fantastic.
So, what’s not to like? I’ll tell you. This TT’s tonearm does not accommodate cartridge swapping; thus, it’s not for those who enjoy cart experimentation.
I agree , you can't swap out carts very quick or easy , rega's are just to fussy belt driven , all to much hassle when all you want to do is play an LP without a ceremony of wondering if the deck is running perfect every time, and a sl 1200gr /gr2 /G just works perfectly time after time ,year in year out , I upgraded to the sl 1200g after 30 years constantly nursing a JA Michell focus one , I wouldn't wish all that time fettling on a belt drive etc on my worst enemy.
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Is the stylus not too many pressed in the grooves??
I have a P3 with the same ""problem"".
I guess you can have an experiment with different tracking force and see how it sounds. I just followed the spec at 1.75g and have not tried different weight,😂
I have a p6 with nagaoka mp500 and I got a Big jump in my vinyl reproduction quality when I went from an Ifi zen phono preamplifier to my trigon vanguard III phono preamplifier. The next level up from that would be the luxman phono 250.
Really? I always wondered how a phono can make a difference
@@mikechivymike Try that Trigon and and you will find out.The salesman told me to take it home and try it on your system and you will not bring it back. And he was absolutely right. I wouldn't dream of returning it.
@@eugenefudge1883 not doubting what you said. I just have a built in phono I’m my Yamaha and figured spending like 2-300 would be a big improvement. But your mentioning one that’s like closer to 1k so I’m wondering how much better each step is
@@mikechivy Mike I am not trying to sell you anything. I am telling you the zen Phono sound sounded better than the one in my macintosh ma252 and trigon sounds so much better. it's so much better . If you can
Demo one.
@@eugenefudge1883 I’ll definitely look into that. Thanks!
would that be any good with Rega Elex-R built in phono stage?
I don't have experience with that amplifier . So I couldn't give you advise on that.
The rega elex R got a very good built in phono stage. Even much better than the fono mkiii
Great video! Thank you very much.
Did you ever consider calling Rega in the South of England to problem shoot...?
They are very helpful experts of their own equipment. They might have saved you multiple hours shooting and editing this vide.
Enjoyed your video. I also have the P6. Are you from HongKong?
I’m living in Seoul right now studying East Asian Studies for my Bachelor’s degree. Maybe I can combine my studies with my hi-if hobby eventually.
Thank you. Yeah, in Hong Kong..... Interesting subject for your degree. I wish to travel to Seoul, but probably a year later when the pandemic situation is better.
Bardzo dobra recenzja, najlepsza w sieci, doczekuję, na pewno pomoże mi w podjęciu decyzji.
Still going strong whit the Plx1000
btw, how do you clean your LP?
When you set the side bios to 0 there is still pull from the internal wiring. this will try to pull the arm back to its resting place.
I believe rega use magnet for such mechanism.
@@bitofthisanddad Side bios is a compromise on any arm and should really always done by ear. You are eight Rega do use magnet and its not possible to get true 0 pull. All I was saying is the internal wiring of any arm when its moved across the record will twist and create a pull. Clear audio even use this as a way of adjusting side bios.
Great review 👍🎉
Maybe vpi scouts will be ideal
Horowitz! My man 😁🎉👌
Great deck but that cart lacks detail
@@paulrogers7067 yeah. Exact is a MM cart. But mc cart is kind of out of my budget 😂. It's already quite a stretch on my budget
Go to CL and buy an old Pioneer, Marantz belt drive TT from the 70s with wood based. 1/3 the price and better.
Just enjoy the music instead of all the faffing around.
Meni to sve liči na OTIMANJE PARA jadnom siromašnom engleskom narodu ali to je njihov problem, REGA PLANNAR 3 je sasvim dobar, pristojne cene i jako lepo svira imao sam ga čak ovde u Srbiji! ovo je sve koješta!
Better buy a used technics and a new ortofon.
Buying second hand turntable is easier said than done when considering all the adjustments and alignments needed for proper music reproduction,. Not mentioning the need to check the condition / operation of the 2nd hand TT and if necessary or unfortunately the need to fix problem in 2nd hand gear. Not everyone knows how to do that. Manufacturer has been trying to design TT with simple setup and operation so that more people can get into the hobby, creating a bigger space and eco system.
Drugs kill 😎
Your better off spending your dough
On women of the night, if you get my drift.
But women of the night don't sound as good. I tried putting on my favorite Mahavishnu Orchestra record on them and I found that they damage the vinyl. Rega 6 much better for records I found. Women of the night are terrible for sound and safety.
You're obviously clueless about turntables and have no idea how to set them up properly. It's this sort of false info that puts people off vinyl replay.
Look forward to your TH-cam channel and teach all of us about turntable setup. I am just a poor guy who can't even afford a proper rack for my turntable to sit on , and everytime I want to listen, I have to take it out of the closet ( the p6, not me) and place it just on a small table to listen .
Rega, it's great if you like crap.