The 777 Maneuvre is known as a Derry Wing Over named after Dehavilland test pilot John Derry DFC (who coincidentally passed away 70 years ago in September during an Air Show). It allows a high speed turn to be made and to bleed off excess speed at the same time. Obviously it wouldnt be undertaken with passengers on board but as an air display trick its pretty impressive.
Lot of people doubt about them forgeting the landing gear. In the video we can clearly hear the first pilot saying in french "Tu n'as pas sorti le train ? (you didn't set the gear down ?)", and the second to answer "Non (No)". So, yes, they forgot :)
I couldn’t hear anything over the blaring alarm, which to me suggests that they should have realized something was wrong before they hit the ground and slid
Are we all watching the same video? The gear-up landing was made in a single engine-prop airplane with two people in the front seats and at least one person in the backseats, manning the camera. Although only one needed to be Pilot-in-Command, any of the people aboard could have called for gear down or a go-around. The alarm noise was to loud to determine whether such a call was made. Based on the steep angle of the final approach, I am going to assume that this was an emergency landing. The prop could have just been windmilling without power. But, that is conjecture.
That 777 was not inverted, barely came to a 90 degree bank angle. If you do this wing over correctly you can go up to 120 - 130 degrees, but since over 90 degrees is defined as aerobatics (for which the 777 is not cleared) they have to keep it at this. When doing this manoeuvre you need airspeed to pull up the nose, thus bleeding the airspeed and then you can roll in which causes the nose to drop again. Then you gently roll out and you are back on speed again. It looks more impressive than it actually is. And the guys that forgot the landing gear ? What the heck were they thinking ? What is that annoying sound we cannot identify ? In any case there is a way you quickly find out you forgot the landing gear. If all of a sudden it takes a lot more power to taxi, the marshaller became a lot taller all of a sudden and the landing roll is a lot shorter...............chances are that you forgot something. 😀
It's a wingover. But some idiot limey above is trying to call it by some idiot limey name (just like they tried to steal the "Khe Sahn approach and call it the Sarajevo Approach"
I’m not convinced that the 777 got anywhere near a 90° bank angle. To me (a professional videographer and commercial aviation enthusiast), it’s clear that the person filming tilted their phone/camera during the turn to make it look more impressive than it actually was.
Yeah, I thought the same thing, as the plane banked, the videographer simply turned his camera in the opposite angular direction, creating the illusion of a much steeper bank angle on the 777.
All good and all, but Denzel taught us all that a jetliner can indeed fly inverted 😂. All jokes aside, I did watch a video years ago that did a feasibility analysis on whether or not it was possible and/or practical for such a large jetliner to go inverted in any scenario. Unfortunately, I can't for the life of me remember what the conclusion of that analysis was 😂.
@@Aquascape_Dreaming it has been done before: Boeing test pilot Tex Johnston barrel rolled a 707 over Lake Washington during the Seafair hydroplane races as a stunt back in 1955, of which there is video. He did it because there were airline executives in town for Seafair. He got called into Boeing President Bill Allen’s office and, when asked “what the hell he was doing” pulling a stunt like that, he replied “selling airplanes.” 😂
The 777 maneuver is helpful if you ever get a stuck nose-up stabilizer or elevator to manage altitude, speed, and avoid stalling while planning actions. Usually, a 70-degree bank will get the job done as well.
there must have been some kind of failure in the 3rd vid.. these guys came in way too high imo and i guess they where well aware that the gear wasn't down
If my landing gear wasnt coming down my first thought isnt get the plane on the ground as soon as possible, its more like go around and try to troubleshoot, I dont think they were. if you watch videos of any planned gear up landings the pilots bring it down as easy as possible, not do this XD not to mention if they knew the gear was up they would have shut off the engine right before touchdown to avoid the prop strike they had.
Yeah you probably would get some yaw but a pilot will use every tool at his disposal to stop the plane. Especially if you divert and are above your landing weight.
One engine TRev is a piece of cake. Though open, it’s doubtful they added much thrust. Reverse is used commensurate with centerline control. Too much yaw? Modulate Rev.
1:35 Kind of surprised me to see an US registered tail number on the Avianca Aircraft. FAA says it belongs to a Trustee Bank in Salt Lake City, though. Maybe Avianca's credit card didn't go through.
I did some work on a 707 once which was effectively a luxury business jet - at the time it was hired by some wealthy people from the Middle East. We weren't allowed to go aft of the forward door, but I can say the cockpit was in immaculate condition and we were required to put on overshoes before entering the aircraft. The crew said the aircraft was owned by a holding company in Miami.
Most of Avianca's Aircraft are leased, which entitles them to US Registration, or if they are owned by the airline, they are registered in the US mainly for tax purposes and equity handling by its owners.
Unless it was registered to a bankruptcy trustee (which would likely be in a chapter 11 reorg so the plane could stay in service); it more likely than not was simply the manner in which the plane was financed and registered under finance lien.
It's not that steep, it's more that the runway is at a great angle, it's an altiport, in France we have some in the mountains, runways usually are at a 16% slope so it looks really steep even when you are on a flat approach. A special qualification is required, they may had this for a short period of time, so that's maybe the cause to them forgetting to lower the gear
@@Three_Random_Words and this comes from what factual statement ? Incident report for this aircraft says the same thing...... both the ASN and the French Gov report.
I like how they always show the thumbnail vid in the beginning so people pay attention to the other vids instead of just thinking about the thumbnail. Props to you man, props to you. Get it props like propellers 😂
I think it was the 'Trinidad GT' made by the (now defunct) French group called Société de Construction d'Avions de Tourisme et d'Affaires Or shortened to SOCATA. (Later names were DAHER-SOCATA, EADS Socata).
2:10 For all who don’t believe they forgot the landing gear… Listen to them: „As-tu baissé le train?“ - „Non!“ that translates to „Did you lower the gear?“ - „No!“ They simply forgot it. Why? We all do not know either! Could be anything. But during my training, my FI always reminded me to go around in any case of uncertainty! And still those things happen 🤷🏽♂️
If you had to make a landing without gear down (as in a landing gear failure) would you want to shut off the engine just before touchdown so as not to damage it and hope the prop doesn't strike the ground? Or do you not want to give up having eh engine on in any circumstances?
I guess aviation enthusiasts are not very good at geometry. I always find it funny how a 40° pitch becomes "vertical take-off", and how an 80° bank angle becomes "flying upside down". :) Don't take me wrong, I'm a pilot and aviation enthusiast myself.
@@weewg2 you are new here, that statement is all that matta is capable of trolling with. for almost a year now, that is all he posts, ive proven him wrong 4 times now also :)
Due to the camera tele-lens compression nobody can really say what the bank angle of that 777 was. That’s the trick of these videos. Lens compression makes everything look a lot more impressive !!
Some airplanes have a big fat L on the left power lever and a big fat R on the right lever. And in their manuals there are no references to No 1 or No 2. Or port or starboard. Just left right.
The "almost upside down" maneuver was neither "upside down", nor "almost". It was merely just about overhead, giving that impression when doing a high-bank turn.
Having been in the front row of an airshow where jets are merely taxiing by, the hot wind of a jet engine is not pleasant, so that L-39 blast must've really been annoying.
There’s no way they forgot to lower the landing gear with all those alarms going off
*there’s no way they FORGOT to lower the landing gear”. Your original statement means they forgot and it was inevitable.
@@Lozzie74 🤓
it's difficult to concentrate with all those alarms going off
@@Lozzie74 i ought to give your nerd ass a swirlie
@@antoineroquentin2297 those alarms are SPECIFICALLY reminding them - PUT YOUR DAMN WHEELS DOWN.
The ldg gear warning horn sounds, they didn’t forget
Tunnel vision xD
@@skorpiox3467 Thats not how it works lol
They were coming in pretty hot, too.
@@martyyoung3611 yes that was the cause, you can see the report on the BEA in France, it's a very famous exemple of focus on single task ;)
Could you explain why they did lower the gears?
The 777 Maneuvre is known as a Derry Wing Over named after Dehavilland test pilot John Derry DFC (who coincidentally passed away 70 years ago in September during an Air Show). It allows a high speed turn to be made and to bleed off excess speed at the same time. Obviously it wouldnt be undertaken with passengers on board but as an air display trick its pretty impressive.
yes. but it’s not upside down, right? this video title is misleading.
Loved reading this Chris and Thanks Much for taking a few moments to share! Cheers
A 1g maneuver when performed correctly. No passengers, no problem.
@@g_pazzini All of the titles that are posted by 3 Minutes of Aviation are misleading. Typically you will see something like: Plane flies too low.
@@Aereaux Took the words right out of my mouth
Lot of people doubt about them forgeting the landing gear. In the video we can clearly hear the first pilot saying in french "Tu n'as pas sorti le train ? (you didn't set the gear down ?)", and the second to answer "Non (No)". So, yes, they forgot :)
I can barely make out the comunication..
Merci. :-)
I couldn’t hear anything over the blaring alarm, which to me suggests that they should have realized something was wrong before they hit the ground and slid
There is only one pilot in a Trinidad. Single pilot complex single = no second pilot.
Are we all watching the same video? The gear-up landing was made in a single engine-prop airplane with two people in the front seats and at least one person in the backseats, manning the camera. Although only one needed to be Pilot-in-Command, any of the people aboard could have called for gear down or a go-around. The alarm noise was to loud to determine whether such a call was made.
Based on the steep angle of the final approach, I am going to assume that this was an emergency landing. The prop could have just been windmilling without power. But, that is conjecture.
Wow. You’d think that alarm would clue them in.
I don't think they forgot. Probably a different issue.
@@kekke2000 that was my thought
Plot twist: everyone on board was deaf.
@@kekke2000 they definitely forgot, read the description on the original link.
Obviously not
That 777 was not inverted, barely came to a 90 degree bank angle. If you do this wing over correctly you can go up to 120 - 130 degrees, but since over 90 degrees is defined as aerobatics (for which the 777 is not cleared) they have to keep it at this.
When doing this manoeuvre you need airspeed to pull up the nose, thus bleeding the airspeed and then you can roll in which causes the nose to drop again. Then you gently roll out and you are back on speed again. It looks more impressive than it actually is.
And the guys that forgot the landing gear ? What the heck were they thinking ? What is that annoying sound we cannot identify ? In any case there is a way you quickly find out you forgot the landing gear. If all of a sudden it takes a lot more power to taxi, the marshaller became a lot taller all of a sudden and the landing roll is a lot shorter...............chances are that you forgot something. 😀
Based on the title of the video, I was expecting more than a 90 degree bank angle. Definitely nowhere near "upside down".
LOL lol. You're a genus
Can u explain why the almost inverted 777 did not stall? And does this mean it’s a very safe plane?
It's a wingover. But some idiot limey above is trying to call it by some idiot limey name (just like they tried to steal the "Khe Sahn approach and call it the Sarajevo Approach"
@@karenfisher1068 it was not even "almost inverted"
It stopped at roughly 90 deg banking
So glad I was wearing my headphones at 1:36 😂😂😂
Music to the ears😄
@@sailaab Music to what's left of one's ears ...
1:40 DO YOU HEAR THAT NOISE JIM? WHAT NOISE? like how do you not realize the gear isnt down??
Hey, what's that alarm? I don't know, can't be too important.
Je French
I would assume they have a landing gear failure and not that they intentionally belly landed it. I hope.
They forgot about it. Listen at 2:15 one of them ask about the landing gear in French ("pas sorti le train?") to what the second one says "No".
I’m not convinced that the 777 got anywhere near a 90° bank angle. To me (a professional videographer and commercial aviation enthusiast), it’s clear that the person filming tilted their phone/camera during the turn to make it look more impressive than it actually was.
I was there. It didn’t get near 90°. It’s indeed an optical illusion.
I too immediately knew there was camera trickery going on. the cameraman or editor conveniently removed all and every reference point.
Yeah, I thought the same thing, as the plane banked, the videographer simply turned his camera in the opposite angular direction, creating the illusion of a much steeper bank angle on the 777.
All good and all, but Denzel taught us all that a jetliner can indeed fly inverted 😂.
All jokes aside, I did watch a video years ago that did a feasibility analysis on whether or not it was possible and/or practical for such a large jetliner to go inverted in any scenario. Unfortunately, I can't for the life of me remember what the conclusion of that analysis was 😂.
@@Aquascape_Dreaming it has been done before: Boeing test pilot Tex Johnston barrel rolled a 707 over Lake Washington during the Seafair hydroplane races as a stunt back in 1955, of which there is video. He did it because there were airline executives in town for Seafair. He got called into Boeing President Bill Allen’s office and, when asked “what the hell he was doing” pulling a stunt like that, he replied “selling airplanes.” 😂
No AeroSucre today means double feature next time 😁
They are training to appear on 3 minutes of maritime
@@mattafakkah Are you a bot or what? Stop spamming!
@@Credt444 He migrated over here from one of the other channels. Unluckily for us.
@@Credt444 no, he is just a 6 year old's mind in a tractor pipe loving german farmer, he likes flesh to metal intercourse.
🤣😂🤣
The 777 maneuver is helpful if you ever get a stuck nose-up stabilizer or elevator to manage altitude, speed, and avoid stalling while planning actions. Usually, a 70-degree bank will get the job done as well.
Useful too if there is a couple in the lav he'in and she'in!
But but but that ain’t supposed to ever happen😰. One thing for sure it would wake up the passengers.
@@drizler It has happened in the past. It shouldn't happen but it has.
LOL, No.
If your blades snapped off from smacking the ground chances are you forgot something
there must have been some kind of failure in the 3rd vid.. these guys came in way too high imo and i guess they where well aware that the gear wasn't down
This is a old video and clearly in original video the guys in the plane just forgot to lower the lnd gear; perfect example of cognitive tunneling
If my landing gear wasnt coming down my first thought isnt get the plane on the ground as soon as possible, its more like go around and try to troubleshoot, I dont think they were. if you watch videos of any planned gear up landings the pilots bring it down as easy as possible, not do this XD not to mention if they knew the gear was up they would have shut off the engine right before touchdown to avoid the prop strike they had.
Runway has 7 to 9% upslope and there are mountains all around. This is why they appear to approach too high.
Yes, there was a failure. It was an open circuit between the ears.
On that Avianca with the L engine out, it's ok to run the reverser on the only good engine when landing? Wouldn't you get a a pretty solid yaw?
Yeah you probably would get some yaw but a pilot will use every tool at his disposal to stop the plane. Especially if you divert and are above your landing weight.
One engine TRev is a piece of cake. Though open, it’s doubtful they added much thrust. Reverse is used commensurate with centerline control. Too much yaw? Modulate Rev.
does the "bank angle" warning go away, when you're inverted?
1:35 Kind of surprised me to see an US registered tail number on the Avianca Aircraft. FAA says it belongs to a Trustee Bank in Salt Lake City, though. Maybe Avianca's credit card didn't go through.
Trustee's are the most popular way to register aircraft through corporations.
I did some work on a 707 once which was effectively a luxury business jet - at the time it was hired by some wealthy people from the Middle East. We weren't allowed to go aft of the forward door, but I can say the cockpit was in immaculate condition and we were required to put on overshoes before entering the aircraft. The crew said the aircraft was owned by a holding company in Miami.
Most of Avianca's Aircraft are leased, which entitles them to US Registration, or if they are owned by the airline, they are registered in the US mainly for tax purposes and equity handling by its owners.
Unless it was registered to a bankruptcy trustee (which would likely be in a chapter 11 reorg so the plane could stay in service); it more likely than not was simply the manner in which the plane was financed and registered under finance lien.
It's Microsoft Flight Simulator. Not a real video.
They got mcas on the roll axis now aswell?
"after pilot forgets to lower landing gear"
The master alarm: 😱😱😱LOWER THE TINGG
Exactely, did was not "forget to put down the gear", but malinfunction in my opinion.
@@Twan2251 original video says otherwise
Well done Avianca crew!! 👏
I have a video of a plane almost hitting the tail of another plane, viralhog doesn’t want the video, where can I show this?
post it on your own channel, and report back here, but don't give the url because the post will get deleted. A link thru your name is good enough.
Does anyone have a camera that works?
What kinda props have them curled tips? That must be high performance yo.
Q tip props.
The Cheyenne III had them, though the bent part of the tips was a lot shorter 😂😂
@@FutureSystem738 lol
This channel is too underrated 🔥🔥 keep up the great work ✈️
Agree DJ...We Fans Are The Lucky Ones To Be Sure! Cheers
2:25 Even the plane looked happy in the end! 😊
Oh YEAH!! It DID have a smile, didn't it?!!😂
Heh, it is like the plane smile! :)
That gear up was not a "forgotten" by the pilot. It was a mechanical failure to extend. Hear all those noises?
How did Aerosucre get their hands on a 777??
1:45 Check that out for a steep approach!
He was so focused on his steep approach, he kinda forgot a minor checklist item.
It's not that steep, it's more that the runway is at a great angle, it's an altiport, in France we have some in the mountains, runways usually are at a 16% slope so it looks really steep even when you are on a flat approach. A special qualification is required, they may had this for a short period of time, so that's maybe the cause to them forgetting to lower the gear
I wonder what the alarm is for, I will still land, it must be nothing important.
@@mattafakkah It's getting really annoying now. Stop spamming.
@@futonclutch5040 this is what happens when you do drugs and make love to german tractor exhaust pipes, you get addicted to 6 year old trolling
The gear extender broke or malfunctioned, so they were not really ignoring the alarm. The narrator messed up or deliberately misspoke.
@@Three_Random_Words and this comes from what factual statement ?
Incident report for this aircraft says the same thing...... both the ASN and the French Gov report.
That was nowhere near inverted or upside down......
It's even more satisfying knowing that it's an actual airliner and not an light aircraft such as military fighters
I like how they always show the thumbnail vid in the beginning so people pay attention to the other vids instead of just thinking about the thumbnail. Props to you man, props to you.
Get it props like propellers 😂
That landing was so smooth. .. . To a point. Check list next time.
What is the model name of plane @ 2.26
I think it was the 'Trinidad GT' made by the (now defunct) French group called Société de Construction d'Avions de Tourisme et d'Affaires
Or shortened to SOCATA.
(Later names were DAHER-SOCATA, EADS Socata).
@@sailaab Thanks a lot.
arey🙂 bhai! Welcome🙂
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I also went to the original video, to check
How do you forget your landing gear?
They did not forget at all, it’s the creator of these videos spreading lies. You can clearly hear the gear horn warning sound.
Check the original video.
They did forget.
Besides... they French
The only videos I give a like before even watching them.
Forgets?
In the last clip, I wish there was a better view of the spectator's faces beaming with joy.
Hmmm..
Althoughnot everyone..
@@mattafakkah don't go violating jet tailpipes now, we all know how much you love exhaust pipes, quite literally.
No Aerosucre clips?
Must be a slow week in aviation
How does a pilot forget to lower the landing gear?
2:02 R Y A N A I R
2:10 For all who don’t believe they forgot the landing gear… Listen to them: „As-tu baissé le train?“ - „Non!“ that translates to „Did you lower the gear?“ - „No!“
They simply forgot it. Why? We all do not know either! Could be anything. But during my training, my FI always reminded me to go around in any case of uncertainty! And still those things happen 🤷🏽♂️
If you had to make a landing without gear down (as in a landing gear failure) would you want to shut off the engine just before touchdown so as not to damage it and hope the prop doesn't strike the ground? Or do you not want to give up having eh engine on in any circumstances?
Correct, if you shutdown the engine and you have to make a go around, you're screwed.
Was a Boeing 787-8 not -9
Looking at the video, they didn't forget. Looks like they had a nose gear down only. Probably gear issues. Do you just make it up?
How do you forget your landing gear
I guess aviation enthusiasts are not very good at geometry. I always find it funny how a 40° pitch becomes "vertical take-off", and how an 80° bank angle becomes "flying upside down". :) Don't take me wrong, I'm a pilot and aviation enthusiast myself.
Over-exaggeration is an important trait in the non-professional pursuit of many past times, including aviation.
Hey, whats that noise? Oh, it's the gear warning horn.
Extraordinary manoeuvre of the 777 and an extraordinary
claim in the title that it flew upside down.
Your videos just get better and better. Keep it up!
@@mattafakkah it a test flight lol
@@weewg2 you are new here, that statement is all that matta is capable of trolling with.
for almost a year now, that is all he posts, ive proven him wrong 4 times now also :)
@@CapStar362 xd
@@mattafakkah yeah it is, nasty as fuck also
What's landing gear?
1:43 what could that warning sound mean?
Nice video again, but I wish you'd dial back on the click-baity titles...
Not only titles, but thumbnails too
Due to the camera tele-lens compression nobody can really say what the bank angle of that 777 was. That’s the trick of these videos. Lens compression makes everything look a lot more impressive !!
We can say with 100% certainty that this 777 was nowhere near flying upside down.
Can a plane fly upside down with flap set to max lift setting?
The 777... "S*ck it, Airbus" 😅😅😅
As an aviation enthusiast, saying left hand engine is embarrassing.
Then what to say?
@@sailaab Number 1 engine.
Some airplanes have a big fat L on the left power lever and a big fat R on the right lever. And in their manuals there are no references to No 1 or No 2. Or port or starboard. Just left right.
1:10 had me looking for a text for a whole half a minute 😅
The Boeing 777 maneuver was really cool! 😎
Except, it was fake. It was a camera angle trick.
Why are the videos sped up
No it doesn't. The word is spelt manoeuvre.
The 777 move is a routine procedure for military operations.
Wasn't that constant ringing in the private plan saying you're low and your landing gear is up ?
This is the channel to watch while on a flight 😬
This isn’t inverted, no where near it! It’s a very sharp banking maneuver.
2:22 not sure if they forgot most likely technical issue think I saw three greens
Was Harrison Ford one of the pilots?
Did they really forget to lower the landing gear? That loud alarm surely would've reminded them of that. I would rather suspect a technical failure.
Boeing flies upside down ≠ Boeing almost goes inverted
Bank angle, Bank angle! :-D
:-D :-D
0:36 There weren't any passengers on board, but the pilot did spill his drink. 😎
Was this a Stuka?
They should do a Tex Johnson and get a photo of it inverted.
The avianca one was a 787-8, not -9
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
They should have cut the engine just before impact, that would help spare engine damage.
Do we ever get the cockpit and instrument views during these airshow sales stunts?
If a 707 could do a barrel roll during a flight demo, I would think a 777 could as well.
your descriptions are you guessing what happened.
Yeah, it's sometimes hard to hear that blaring gear alarm.🙄
The plane landing on its belly was painful, such a beautiful aircraft to be damaged that way!
It still flies to this day, only minor damage, not major like stated here.
@@eMMjunaYschion that looked like a good amount of damage but my qualifications to set a value are pretty much zero, ha
"upside down", you get an upside down thumbs up!
1:40 I too would forget the landing gear if that high-pitched sound were playing!
Those bells and whistles are screaming GUMP GUMP GUMP until impact. Nice going guys !
*Ryanair and Aerosucre cockpit crews:*
01:01 mehhh🥴😬 👎🏽too smooth for us.
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02:01 🤗they are our brother.. from another mother.👌🏽
The "almost upside down" maneuver was neither "upside down", nor "almost". It was merely just about overhead, giving that impression when doing a high-bank turn.
best air show ever here in Dubai
Gear warning horn : am I a joke to you?
And also should be noted that 777 completely empty with minimum fuel is crazy overpowered! 😀
Having been in the front row of an airshow where jets are merely taxiing by, the hot wind of a jet engine is not pleasant, so that L-39 blast must've really been annoying.
Pilot 1: 'What's that beeping noise?"
Pilot 2: "I don't know. Let's hurry up and land then we'll know."
It did not do a complete roll like the 707 in Seattle did twice.
To the 777 pilot: "I knew Tex Johnson, Tex Johnson was a friend of mine. You, sir, are no Tex Johnson."
Aborts roll.
Can't use the reverser after doing the engine failure ck list...it's locked out.
Who else yelled "BANK ANGLE" on the first one?
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee 😊
They should make an alarm to warn you that your landing gear isn't down.
There is
@@MatyasArby Its called scraping metal. 😂
When noise cancelling headphones cost even more
The 777 is just how Spirit gets there on time..
The wingspan on the new planes is insane
The wing tips fold for it to meet taxi and parking regulations.