Welby was very quick to meddle in Brexit and Rwanda but took 13 years and no conclusion in this abuse case ! He's not a competent or honourable person after listening to him. It's uncomfortable that he still doesn't get it. No idea.
Too arrogant to resign. Unfortunately these type of people think there above the law. The church have appalling record of abuse. But generally gets away with it. Terrible.
In Reality, No, The Church Of England does Not have an Appalling Record of Abuse, and it has Far Fewer Situations Like THis than do Schools or The Media or The Labour party or The National Secular Society.
What about the ten bishops, two archbishops and the Royal chaplains that apparently knew. Should those NOT calling for his resignation also be investigated ?
The Church of England is a corrupt organization. No wonder it’s so welcoming to Black Lives Matter. What’s the next banner for Parish Churches? Nonce Lives Matter?
He will be fine, the Archbishop is a massive part of the British establishment which very much looks after its own. He won’t be made to resign or face prosecution, like Vennels at the Post Office the establishment has their backs!
What would his responsibilities be in relation to this? Would reporting the matter to the police be sufficient to acquit him of blame or negligence or is there any further safeguarding measures he should have taken?
?? Gotta say, that evil man should be locked up behind bars, forget about letting him just quit his job... he knew about the horrific abuse endured by hundreds of boys, for years, and he showed no mercy by doing NOTHING! (A disgusting excuse for a human being, let alone a disgusting leader of a religious institution.)
There certainly should be a formal inquiry and a root and branch review of safeguarding procedures for minors and whether those were observed or if reported incidents of abuse were disclosed to the police. In the absence of a strict code of policy it would be difficult to establish how blameworthy the head of a civil or religious organisation were.
And maybey The Lord will indeed as he says raise up something new in its place...perhaps that expression of Church, as it exist else where...will be quite diffrent...more underground more simple and more Biblical.
George Carey failed to act against the king's close friend Bishop Peter Ball. Such people, including Welby, don't belong in a church, let alone in its hierarchy.
The archbishop must be dismissed & should not be afforded the courtesy of being allowed to resign. He must be dismissed. The PM must tender the formal advice to HM The King without further delay. This is a deplorable situation.
He might have heard rumours which he was unable to confirm but if he were formally aware i.e. a complaint of misconduct were made to him by the parents or guardians he would be obliged to act on and report it.
Resign? Welby must be charged as an accessory after the fact in all 130 cases of abuse that he personally covered up.Merely resigning is NOT enough given his level of culpability.
Why am I not surprised, a man unable to understand that being moral sometimes means stoutness of purpose, standing up for what’s right rather than doing what is easy and unchallenged. His pronouncements have been far too political in the past, now this. He has to go.
If a parish priest failed to pass on allegations of abuse he would face serious consequences! Why is the archbishop any different? It makes safeguarding a joke and that is not acceptable. My heart goes out to those victims/survivors.
I keep hearing he did the right thing resigning to protect the church. What about protecting the abused youngsters. The church sticks its nose very quickly into everything that doesn't concern them. BUT they're also very quick to cover up wholesale abuse. He only resigned because the truth was uncovered!
Starmer should resign as well! He was clearly voted in by blind sheeple and the UK would definitely have better relationship with the US, if he would do the honourable thing and resign!
It's important that anyone in the church who knew what was going on, they should have to resign as well. This question those who adviced him. How many cases are there still hidden. In all areas of the church. Surely the person in question should have been asked to see a psychiatrist early on as his prayer life must have been very warpped. It's obvious those in the church have no healing powers in Christ or common sense. It's odd those who voted for the archbishop knew nothing? Who ever replaces him, if he goes, did they know?
And he is not a lone. There are more many more! So sickening. It’s about time these monsters should be held to account! In stead of hiding behind there statues to For Fill there filthy HABIT DISGUSTING👎😡😡👎
So, at the very least, Welby has known about this for 11 years and did nothing. He should be sacked immediately and prosecuted for being complicit in this matter. It is horrific.
When i see stories like this i always look a lot deeper, and i ask myself why do these stories always break after the perpetrators have died? Which makes me more angry because a lot of people who didnt want their involvements to come to light can now breathe a sigh of relief
Did the C of E learn nothing from the catholic church scandals? All those bishops who knew about this abuse and remained silent should resign and remove themselves from the House of Lords.
The 2013 to 2018 limbo appears quite damning. The greater context should be thought about about in private conversations and come out by a published report
Welby was very quick to meddle in Brexit and Rwanda but took 13 years and no conclusion in this abuse case !
He's not a competent or honourable person after listening to him. It's uncomfortable that he still doesn't get it. No idea.
He's a politician not a man of God.
Obviously he is protecting his friend.
@@perryvalton3296 ... no excuse.
NPD
It's almost like "the wokey left" are keen to LOOK good but are actually evil.
Welby is finished. Behind the scenes he was struggling anyway but this is it. What a shameless hypocrite.
He knew about all this shameful behaviour 11 years ago.
Agree
No , he won't resign , because he has no remorse and no morals . And this is someone who literally pontificates to others about living a moral life .
Does the " church" still do that? I thought these days it was mainly telling us not to be judgemental.
@@MsStack42Nope, it now tells us to embrace all the things the old church labelled as sin.
Not after this! He's done.
Too arrogant to resign. Unfortunately these type of people think there above the law. The church have appalling record of abuse. But generally gets away with it. Terrible.
Yes and tried to politically interfere over and over.
We want our C of E back
no woke cult BS.
Want an AB who is satisfied to be AB.
He is above the law because he will avoid prison for his Action’s !
In Reality, No, The Church Of England does Not have an Appalling Record of Abuse, and it has Far Fewer Situations Like THis than do Schools or The Media or The Labour party or The National Secular Society.
What about the ten bishops, two archbishops and the Royal chaplains that apparently knew.
Should those NOT calling for his resignation also be investigated ?
The Church of England is a corrupt organization. No wonder it’s so welcoming to Black Lives Matter. What’s the next banner for Parish Churches? Nonce Lives Matter?
Yes
💯 they should be investigated.
Corrupt, sinister and disgusting to the core.
Yes they should!
I do Like How People Know Clergy are Guilty so no need for any Presumption of Innocence or Investigations...
Q: Will Welby resign ?
A: no. He Should be sacked and investigated further.
He should be replaced by an actual Christian !
They are few and far between and usually do not want the spot light shine on them.
Yes, sack himself.
He has lost his way, to me, he is not a leader of the Christian faith.
I don’t believe him to be a Christian. A Christian would have to reveal and condemn this evil.
Justin Welby should resign with immediate effect, the question now is, Some would go on to say, was he involved in these criminal acts ?
one might indeed wonder.
In the name of God, go!
It is quite evident from many actions that Welb has little care for the Church of England
He's a woke 'trojan horse'.
He will be fine, the Archbishop is a massive part of the British establishment which very much looks after its own. He won’t be made to resign or face prosecution, like Vennels at the Post Office the establishment has their backs!
The establishment are all paedaphiles as well / their all at it ….
Unfortunately this is true
What would his responsibilities be in relation to this? Would reporting the matter to the police be sufficient to acquit him of blame or negligence or is there any further safeguarding measures he should have taken?
And give up all of that power and money? Not a chance.
He will hang on by his fingernails unless he is forced out.
Welby should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER have become archbishop of Canterbury!
?? Gotta say, that evil man should be locked up behind bars, forget about letting him just quit his job... he knew about the horrific abuse endured by hundreds of boys, for years, and he showed no mercy by doing NOTHING! (A disgusting excuse for a human being, let alone a disgusting leader of a religious institution.)
Agree
There certainly should be a formal inquiry and a root and branch review of safeguarding procedures for minors and whether those were observed or if reported incidents of abuse were disclosed to the police. In the absence of a strict code of policy it would be difficult to establish how blameworthy the head of a civil or religious organisation were.
The church of England is finished , really small congregations , they are totally out of touch
yeh cos theyre all a bunch of evil pdf files
Agree
"I don't give a hang about the institution , I really genuinely don't"
Now that I do believe.
Yes I noted that too. He is a sham. Unbelievable wickedness.
And maybey The Lord will indeed as he says raise up something new in its place...perhaps that expression of Church, as it exist else where...will be quite diffrent...more underground more simple and more Biblical.
George Carey failed to act against the king's close friend Bishop Peter Ball.
Such people, including Welby, don't belong in a church, let alone in its hierarchy.
The establishment protects its own, always, unfortunately
The Arch Bishop of woke
I'd say Arch Bishop of the sleeping.
The King as head of the Church of England, must dismiss this man. His moral compass is despicable…
This man has always given me the creeps.
A true religious creepster…👹
The archbishop must be dismissed & should not be afforded the courtesy of being allowed to resign. He must be dismissed. The PM must tender the formal advice to HM The King without further delay. This is a deplorable situation.
I should certainly hope so. He is a proxy abuser if he knew and did nothing. Complicit! Absolutely disgusting.
He should go but hes that arrogant he wont.
This will take the heat off the Papists.
Ugh. A heretic.
Why is the British PM doing nothing about this matter? That is the relevant question here.
How can he ever show his face in public again, never mind in his silly costume?
Yes he lovvves his pagan fish head hat…🦈
The Church of England must close, all further abuse uncovered and perpetrators brought to justive and its assets dispersed.
Agree
Wouldn’t that be a blessed day…👍🏽
SACK HIM THEN!! IF HE AINT RESIGNING
Well said
Well said.
Bring back Calvin Robinson to take Welby's place.
Amen! Love Calvin!
If he says he was “formally made aware“ then that clearly insinuates he was informally aware previously
He might have heard rumours which he was unable to confirm but if he were formally aware i.e. a complaint of misconduct were made to him by the parents or guardians he would be obliged to act on and report it.
These people need to go!!!! No wonder people turn away from church when hearing stories like this!!! Disgusting!! Stop covering up the evil!!!
'Church of the poison mind'
Resign? Welby must be charged as an accessory after the fact in all 130 cases of abuse that he personally covered up.Merely resigning is NOT enough given his level of culpability.
Agree!!!
It’s not a question of resigning. It’s a question of the church to get rid of him. It’s their responsibility to show him the door.
Agree
Throw him in jail please,we condemn such actions.
Why am I not surprised, a man unable to understand that being moral sometimes means stoutness of purpose, standing up for what’s right rather than doing what is easy and unchallenged. His pronouncements have been far too political in the past, now this. He has to go.
If a parish priest failed to pass on allegations of abuse he would face serious consequences! Why is the archbishop any different? It makes safeguarding a joke and that is not acceptable. My heart goes out to those victims/survivors.
I keep hearing he did the right thing resigning to protect the church. What about protecting the abused youngsters. The church sticks its nose very quickly into everything that doesn't concern them. BUT they're also very quick to cover up wholesale abuse. He only resigned because the truth was uncovered!
Why didn't Giles Fraser speak up before now if he was so enraged?
Wellby has to go NOW!
He must GO. Sack him right now.
Just think about the victims for a minute ,then decide what should be done.
Well said
Starmer should resign as well! He was clearly voted in by blind sheeple and the UK would definitely have better relationship with the US, if he would do the honourable thing and resign!
Need arresting 😊
Once he's gone, why not try having an actual christian, with morals, integrity and a commonality with the British people, as head of the church?
Cannot the King, as Supreme Governor of the Church, and a friend of Welby, have a quiet word with him to nudge him in the right direction?
King Charles? The same King Charles who unapologetically committed adultery against Princess Diana? How rich!
He is the Paula Vennells of the Church of England.
Agree
Paula Vennells was an ordained Minister in the CoE!
He should go!
He should be put in jail anybody else would be?
These people DO NOT represent Christianity!!
Archbishop Wokeby needs to step down immediately
Define woke?
Resign, Welby. Khan will have to find another best friend.
Definitely should resign
It's important that anyone in the church who knew what was going on, they should have to resign as well. This question those who adviced him. How many cases are there still hidden. In all areas of the church. Surely the person in question should have been asked to see a psychiatrist early on as his prayer life must have been very warpped. It's obvious those in the church have no healing powers in Christ or common sense. It's odd those who voted for the archbishop knew nothing? Who ever replaces him, if he goes, did they know?
Who were the alleged people that advised him that he shouldn't resign? He didn't specify who they were, that is if they ever existed.
And he is not a lone. There are more many more! So sickening. It’s about time these monsters should be held to account! In stead of hiding behind there statues to For Fill there filthy HABIT DISGUSTING👎😡😡👎
does welby know more than he lets on ?
Of cause he does
He is as involved as the people he is protecting
If Welby knew and did nothing the King must sack him instantly and report him to the police
He should be prosecuted and sent to Jail for some prison justice
He has to resign without further delay.
All corrupt and stick together
It shouldn't be his choice any more
So, at the very least, Welby has known about this for 11 years and did nothing. He should be sacked immediately and prosecuted for being complicit in this matter. It is horrific.
Please sign the petition to get rid of him.
What must God think.
Sadly he doesn’t DO much about it…😢
Yes he must go.
It is not just this issue - he raised no objections to the mocking of Jesus during the Olympics Opening Ceremony.
Perhaps Welby is holding out for better resignation terms including severance package and pension top-up .
He MUST GO!
Don't give him the dignity of resigning. Sack him , and arrest him for what his allowed to happen.
JW talks about racism and yet a young man died in Zimbabwe (purportedly at the hands of this abuser) AND he DID NOTHING
Will the same person who chose Wokeby be choosing the next Archbishop why is no one asking
He is supposed to be a man of God, he is a disappointed . I have no confidence in the church anymore .
He either resigns or joins the Catholic Church.
Too much competition in the Catholic Church.
St Anne's is such a beautiful church and is always so well kept on the times I have visited for service there.
Australia left no stone unturned concerning any guilt of Cardinal George Pell England should follow suit in this inst
This whole thing is monstrous. Welby, and anyone else associated with this must resign.
Does , Welby , still have to Resign if he converts to Christianity ?
Why are people so messed up? Answers on a postcard please.
His a weazal of the highest order . And must be made accountable.
When i see stories like this i always look a lot deeper, and i ask myself why do these stories always break after the perpetrators have died? Which makes me more angry because a lot of people who didnt want their involvements to come to light can now breathe a sigh of relief
Janet doesn't need to open her answers with ''So''
All church modalities is an epidemic of denial and abhorrent hypocrisy.
I believe him when he says he doesn't care about the institution. He seems to be trying very hard to destroy it.
Of course, Welby knew he was culpable of cover-up and a liar.
Rat
I do believe Welby doesn’t care about the church but he does care an awful lot about his career.
Did the C of E learn nothing from the catholic church scandals? All those bishops who knew about this abuse and remained silent should resign and remove themselves from the House of Lords.
How can this continue to happen and how can anyone defend th church any longer
Welby’s wellbeing precarious……. Disgraceful behaviour from a man of the cloth…
Welby and Lineker 🙏🏼
Resign or be sacked. His choice.
Is this man so arrogant that he is happy to see the demise of the CofE?
Bishop of Newcastle has expressed her wish for him to resign.
Yes, he had a moral responsibility to act in 2013, & did nothing. Shame.
No he won’t resign he enjoys dressing up too much.
still no apology for calder island shame
Sack him! Don't give him a choice!
The 2013 to 2018 limbo appears quite damning. The greater context should be thought about about in private conversations and come out by a published report
Give Welby his due - ever heard a politician, a political party admit to incompetence or neglect?