i think the coolest thing about the old bound mechanic is that you could travel your opponent to the wall, get the wallsplat and then extend the wallcombo by using bound at the wall
@@foreveruseless1292it is but you don't get a very long combo at the wall even if you do the flip. With the bound mechanic, you could spike with another bound move to set up the opponent for traps. Greatest example would be Lee.
Unlabelled homing moves in Tekken 6 were kinda imprecise with their tracking properties. Kazuya's d/f+2 and Law's b+4 were not classified as homing moves, but they hit sidestepping opponents on both sides for most of the cast and only very few characters like Lili could sidestep it. My guess is, they were originally intended to be classified as homing moves, but when they realized it doesn't work on Lili, they just decided to scratch that.
Kazuya definitely had a rough transition in this game. Going from Top 2 in 6.0 to lower mid tier. Probably one of the most nerfed characters in the series history. Also, it's a bit surreal seeing Nemesis play Lili, even if it's only to sidestep Kazuya df2.
I wouldn’t call T6 Kaz pure garbage. Yeah, he wasn’t as strong as he was in 6.0 but he was still a solid character who had the best punishment tools in the game. He was just difficult to use effectively at high level.
@@sangasp2286 T4 kazuya had great combos of WS2, amazing db4 and 112 wall splat.. 112 wall splat primarily kept him alive.. anyone putting him A was drunk.. Every character had good stuff
I don't know why they nerfed most of the top tier characters in vanilla t6 so much except Bob. Bob was by far the worst in t6 but they barely nerfed him but they gave a ton of nerfs to kaz, jin, devil jin and lei
Who were the worst characters in 6.0? Were the worst characters in BR (Zafina, Yoshimitsu) still the worst in 6.0 or were other characters at the bottom?
@@bigbangbot-SuperSqankzafina was arguably the weakest T6BR character.. Her movement was just normal, her B1+2 was like -6 on hit, no df121 and d3.. her frames in general were horrible
Bob was nerfed from 6.0 to BR. His df2 launched on normal hit back then(and since Bob is huge it had huge range), his WS22 launched on normal hit, and his hellsweep tripped on it's own which gave a mini combo. He just ended up like Steve where the rest of his kit is so good that getting huge nerfs in BR and Tag 2 just turned him from OP to really good
I will never consider tag 2 kazuya top tier even tho many tier lists disagree... He was not common in tourneys at all, devil Jin and heihachi were much more common picks.. I guess ppl put him top tier cause his combos worked great with many characters but tool wise, overall, he wasn't top tier
The mishima's in T6 are badly punished by balancing. And their key moves aren't safe and quite minus on block/launch punishable. And there's this poorly written 'mishima" named Lars(I mean everyone in this game is ridiculously written in some aspects of the plot)and he's overpowered in that game plus his weaknesses are being resolved by great tracking moves.
Lol tekken 6 kazuya is worst I played it on deck combos are worst, in tekken 8 it's nonstop combo here so many moves are missing to carry flying enemies also no steel pedal pure disaster
The only mishima worth playing in tekken 6 is Bob
Bob ruled the game ngl. Him and Devil jin's rivalry was legendary
Real
And Steve Kazama
@@ajye8935bro dont bring that up, that is legendary 😂
And devil Jin
i think the coolest thing about the old bound mechanic is that you could travel your opponent to the wall, get the wallsplat and then extend the wallcombo by using bound at the wall
Yeah I think it's cool being able to save your bound for the wall, so I'm glad that system's making a return in t8
Yes but that was precisely why they eliminated it in favor of Tailspins.
@@foreveruseless1292it is but you don't get a very long combo at the wall even if you do the flip. With the bound mechanic, you could spike with another bound move to set up the opponent for traps. Greatest example would be Lee.
Kazuya paid a heavy price for being a top character in vanilla Tekken 6...
true lol
He may have been garbage gameplaywise but still was the most badass character out there 🔥
indeed
Unlabelled homing moves in Tekken 6 were kinda imprecise with their tracking properties. Kazuya's d/f+2 and Law's b+4 were not classified as homing moves, but they hit sidestepping opponents on both sides for most of the cast and only very few characters like Lili could sidestep it.
My guess is, they were originally intended to be classified as homing moves, but when they realized it doesn't work on Lili, they just decided to scratch that.
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Kazuya to himself in tekken 6 "Hanashi ni naran na"😂
xD
the thumbnail looks like Lili holding Kazuya in a headlock
Man... i just want to point out The High Roller's Club stage soundtrack with this kind of content just slaps.
Kazuya definitely had a rough transition in this game. Going from Top 2 in 6.0 to lower mid tier. Probably one of the most nerfed characters in the series history.
Also, it's a bit surreal seeing Nemesis play Lili, even if it's only to sidestep Kazuya df2.
haha yes
Thats how it all starts with becoming a waifu main
When Kaz's lockdown moves push the opponent too far away to do anything yet they still screw you with terrible range and speed.
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Best thing about kaz on 6 was his fits
0:04 lmao tekken 6 rage damage was absurd but so fun to see
Think that's bad, watch Tag 2 lol
I think t6 does more..
@@mwkan772 Kazuya Jinpachi, Steve/anyone else, Alisa Lars, King/AK, the list continues but looking at any of those teams combos proves elsewise
No wonder why. Df2 being not homing and f4 being pure trash. Lol what we were expected to do then? Throw electrics😅
Excellent vid as always man!
No because it had worse recovery and didnt track ssl.
You were expected to play bob :)
@@er7776 ikr hehe 😂
I wouldn’t call T6 Kaz pure garbage. Yeah, he wasn’t as strong as he was in 6.0 but he was still a solid character who had the best punishment tools in the game. He was just difficult to use effectively at high level.
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The weakest kazuya ever, even worse than his T4 version..
T6BR is an insult to the character, kazuya should never be in that position..
@@kain1144 t4 kazuya had a lot of good stuff. Some players even used to put kazuya as high as A tier on tier lists
@@sangasp2286 T4 kazuya had great combos of WS2, amazing db4 and 112 wall splat.. 112 wall splat primarily kept him alive.. anyone putting him A was drunk..
Every character had good stuff
@@kain1144 king, lei and marduk sure didn't
I don't know why they nerfed most of the top tier characters in vanilla t6 so much except Bob. Bob was by far the worst in t6 but they barely nerfed him but they gave a ton of nerfs to kaz, jin, devil jin and lei
Who were the worst characters in 6.0? Were the worst characters in BR (Zafina, Yoshimitsu) still the worst in 6.0 or were other characters at the bottom?
@@bigbangbot-SuperSqankzafina was arguably the weakest T6BR character..
Her movement was just normal, her B1+2 was like -6 on hit, no df121 and d3.. her frames in general were horrible
@@bigbangbot-SuperSqankI have no idea who were the weakest t6.0 characters btw 😂
@@bigbangbot-SuperSqank jack , zafina; heihachi and kazuya pretty much, all the rest was mid or high tier
Bob was nerfed from 6.0 to BR. His df2 launched on normal hit back then(and since Bob is huge it had huge range), his WS22 launched on normal hit, and his hellsweep tripped on it's own which gave a mini combo. He just ended up like Steve where the rest of his kit is so good that getting huge nerfs in BR and Tag 2 just turned him from OP to really good
Tekken 6 kazuya was pure balanced 🗿🍷
Nice video! Is it ok if you look into Xiaoyu? She is my favorite character in the series.
His df+1 ALWAYS was i16 it was changed to i15 in T7.
yes
Nah man, it was Tag 2
Him and his son really traded places from T5 to T6
they both were weak
Tekken 6 BR Kazuya:🗑️🗑️🗑️🚮🚮🚮
Tekken 6 Vanilla Kazuya:💀💀💀😈😈😈
Stfu or else I'm GOING to touch your pickle😭
No wonder i hated tekken 6. Kazuya been my main forever, and didnt know what wasn't clicking. Then again, i hated bound
16f d/f+1 is downright crazy. What were they thinking?
His df1 in this game is basically a df2 i15 launcher. Except df1. And i16. And low damage. Lol.
To be fair, Kazuya's DF1 was always i16 until Tag 2
Dude 2x electric to df1,2 to b3,1 was possible but it needs to be very quick and precise although hitting it in a real match is almost impossible tbh
Then again, all of the Mishimas except Angel inhaled some Devil Mojo and became top tier in Tag 2 again...ESPECIALLY JINPACHI!!!
I will never consider tag 2 kazuya top tier even tho many tier lists disagree...
He was not common in tourneys at all, devil Jin and heihachi were much more common picks..
I guess ppl put him top tier cause his combos worked great with many characters but tool wise, overall, he wasn't top tier
So does this just go beyond "it's more challenging," and into "this character is actually bad?"
the character is bad..
The mishima's in T6 are badly punished by balancing.
And their key moves aren't safe and quite minus on block/launch punishable.
And there's this poorly written 'mishima" named Lars(I mean everyone in this game is ridiculously written in some aspects of the plot)and he's overpowered in that game plus his weaknesses are being resolved by great tracking moves.
Could you try Miguel in tekken 6?
sure^^
@@mwkan772 thank you so much!!
The death combo is as good as you'll get with this version of Kazuya. He's so ass in this game.
xD
So was Heihachi but both were fun to play in Tag 2
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Since u r mad about Miguel not being in Tekken 8, (I know I am). Why don't you cover Miguel in past games?
MIGUEL IS WHAAAAAAAAAAT???
That’s my main! I need him!
I will cover him^^
Kazuya's magic 4 is -10 in t6, even his CD3 is most of the time unsafe on block, range dependent..
db4 didn't have counter
I see
Does PEWGF work after f 1+2?
no, it doesn't
T6 looks better than T8 😢
Definitely the worse version of the character until he got improved in later games
U PLAY ON PC OR PS 5 TELL ME..??
Jin was also bad asf . Worst Version of him
I'm going to eat you
At least He is better than t7 lars lol
lars is underrated
Saying that but starting with a death combo ahaha - still you're right, he sucked
haha
Damn near everybody can get a death combo out here, someone did a video on ways to do a death combo with all characters in Tekken 6.
ttt2 & t8 he got better than t6
yes
Tekken 7 kazuya isn't great either
Jin and kazuya is for beginners
- guy who never played either
Lol tekken 6 kazuya is worst I played it on deck combos are worst, in tekken 8 it's nonstop combo here so many moves are missing to carry flying enemies also no steel pedal pure disaster
I stopped following you