A little explanation on why the 'normal' ending is actually a really effing bleak one In the normal ending, Yi hasn't experienced significant character growth that he would recognize the errors of his ways. Sure, he cares for Shuanshuan like family, but he's mostly ambivalent to the others. For what comes next, keep in mind that Yi was the one who came up with the idea of harvesting apemen brains for computational power. There is a mention at 14:23 that PENGLAI the PLANET has a soulscape system now, one that shouldn't be having SHORT TERM computing shortages. The problem is that the soulscape system's computing power was provided by harvesting the brains of the humans/apemen and you can see by the MANY MANY MANY brains at 13:27 that there's a LOT of dead apemen. And to solve long term shortages? It's going to need many, many, many more brains. New Kunlun is just an island and its use of the brains was already massive, but to create something on the scale of the planet would require A LOT MORE apeman deaths to power than just a single island. There's also the fact that there really is no hope for a cure for the Tianhuo virus. All of the best scientists are already dead with the sole exception of Yi and maybe Kuafu, but even he's likely dead because at 12:12 you can see Yi paying respects to a grave with a flower on it that's either Kuafu or Heng. So all Yi's doing is prolonging the inevitable while simultaneously damning who knows how many thousands or even millions of apemen to have their brains extracted, kept as livestock with a few exceptions like Shuanshuan and the two others he's with. All of this just to stall for a little more time for an already dead/dying race. He's pretty much someone Heng would be absolutely ashamed of.
On top of that, the "glitches" at 14:33 could also imply that Yi at that moment is in his own soulscape and maybe going through something similar to Lady Etheral. (Maybe unlikely, but those pixels flashing up imeadiatly made me think of it.)
As someone who didn't play the game, but made enough research to have some context, I think there's a "cure" for the Tianhuo virus. In fact, it already existed before it started to spread and it was turning the whole population into asymptomatic carriers like they were before the Tianhuo virus was triggered
I think that the bad ending has to do with him dying and going into the soulscape to escape into his dreams. You see all the containment-tubes full of alive Solarians when we know everyone on Tiang died whilst most (if not everyone by the end of the game) on Konloun would also be dead or mutated, you see the soulscapes running fine despite the fact that shipping brains back and forth would take 1000 years for the two-way trip, you see him playing with Shuan despite Shuan clearly stating that he knew their last match had already been played. At least that's what I think
I know we all want Yi to live and save the Solarians, but the point of the game is that you can't stop death from happening eventually. The only way to "escape" death is to mutate into the hive-mind regenerating monsters, who even Eigong said were a new species and weren't really solarians anymore. So, either way "Solarians" are dead. The true ending is Yi accepting that not everything is in his control and that sometimes you have to let go and embrace what happens. I know it's not something we like to think about, but folks who are faced with terminal illnesses have to deal with this decision as well. It's tough, and it's meant to be. It's okay to be upset about it and need to sit with the ending a while.
I think the writers tried to imply that you can't cure the virus either. When they took the virus out of embryos, the Solarians that were born weren't Solarians, they were just house cats, with no intelligence or sentience, suggesting you can't cure the virus without losing the Solarians in either direction (either hive-mind or house cat). I know folks want there to be an ending where if we just prolonged the abuse and harvest of the apemen's brains for longer, there will be a cure for the Solarians and it will all be worth it. But Yi and the council already went down that route and the closest they got was the mutating hive-mind virus. It's just not going to be cured and continuing down this path just perpetuates more suffering for everyone (apemen AND solarians, who do not do well long term in the vital sanctums).
I think this comments section needs to go back to 6th grade english (assuming they aren't already) to learn how to engage with the thematic messages of a story. The lack of media literacy is astounding.
looking at the normal ending prove that this doesn't make any fking sense. In normal ending she is too weak to corrupt the core (and the core isn't even expose for some reason), while in true end she does
@@leesasukiif you paid attention you'd realize that in the true ending we took far longer to fight her since the energy level in the normal is 20 and in the true ending it's at 80% which means that probably the mutation had time to evolve in her and make her stronger
This was funny, but it was untrue. There are only two endings. The normal one and the true one. The "ending" shown at the end is (I think, I don't remember when it happens) a mid-game cutscene.
It doesn't get as much talk as the Good Ending, but my take on the Normal Ending is that it is taking place within Yi's Soulscape. The color schema is very similar to Lady Ethereal's, not to mention the floating boulders above the lake (EDIT - Watching some cutscenes, I saw in the flashback of Yi and Heng talking at their parents' grave, you can see vague silhouettes of floating rocks. That part might be normal for Penglai, but the sky was a light blue color, not the purple we see in the Normal Ending. If anything, the fact that the color is closer to what we see in Lady Ethereal's soulscape than what we see in an actual memory seems to suggest all the more that this isn't real.). Moreover, Shuanshuan doesn't seem to have any depth to him, he's just there to be Yi's pet, never questioning anything he's doing and just playing Qiankun. I highly suspect the real Shuanshuan also might not be okay with the endless rows of human brains... Also, let's point out that there are TWO human children? And there is some serious question about who is who. The left one says "Look Shuanshuan! Yi's back!" Which implies that the one on the right is Shuanshuan? The one on the right goes on to say "I told you so! He came back real quick." Which is something Shuanshuan would say about Yi. But then the left one says "I've been waiting ages for you! Let's play Qiankun!" And then proceeds to play Qiankun with Yi, something very much tied to Shuanshuan. So, which one is Shuanshuan, the left or right, and why are there two at all? If we were interpreting this at face value, the left child addressed the right one as Shuanshuan, so that should settle it. But then why would someone else who looks exactly like Shuanshuan be playing Qiankun with Yi instead? Unless we have some age-current clone of Shuanshuan here (Which would need a whole separate theory on its own), none of this makes any sense, which lends all the more credence to this not being real. So why would Yi do this? Why would he put himself into a Soulscape on Penglai? Yi couldn't actually solve the problems facing the Solarians, so following Cipher's lead and "putting himself back in the Matrix" was the best he could do. One might say, then what of the tanks of brains used for computing power and the reports of managing the Soulscape? Easy; Yi's "ideal" is that he is the hero, that his research projects worked and were executed properly. Also, who are the other humans surrounding Shuanshuan? They don't look like other members of the village, and if Shuanshuan is still the age he apparently was during the events of the game, then not enough time has passed to train up new humans. Why Yi would make "two Shuanshuans" in this Soulscape is beyond my best guesses. Again, part of Yi's plan is to use the humans to do what the Solarians cannot and although Penglai being restored to pre-Tianhuo would be ideal, Yi's true "Heaven" in this case (As part of a self-centered vision) is not the best for everyone, but the best for him and his research project succeeding. But then why couldn't Yi just put himself in a Soulscape on New Kunlun? I think there are four possible answers to this. First, he also wanted actual revenge and not simply to "feel better". Second, he might not be able to safely enter a Soulscape on New Kunlun, since he became an enemy of the council. Third, perhaps his "real world" goals included as much of a reversal of the entire New Kunlun project as possible, returning literally the entire world back home. Fourth, from both a narrative in-world and meta-narrative gaming perspective, Yi was a free agent who was still thinking through his decisions; this might not have been his plan the entire time, but by the time he reached Penglai that is what he settled on doing. He may have actually tried to accomplish something on Penglai that we don't see in the cutscene, but when he realized he could not and that there was nothing left to do, he gave up and put himself in a Soulscape; there is no evidence that this cutscene occurs immediately upon arriving and if anything, the structure in place suggests it takes place some time after arriving. EDIT - One piece of "evidence" to top it all off. It was hiding in plain sight! When Yi gets off the transport and walks over to "Shuanshuan," he walks right past a Soulscape pod up on top of the stairs. Although it wouldn't make sense from an internal game narrative, it seems like the perfect clue to leave for the player to see. Not only that, it has YI'S PERSONAL SOL SEAL on it! The same one we see back at the Four Seasons Pavilion. Actually, this leads a lot of evidence to a second theory... THEORY 2 - Now that I think about it, this second theory actually ties up more loose ends. What we are observing IS real. First, what is up with the Soulscape pod with Yi's Sol Seal on it? Although a more thorough analysis is needed, I am operating on the assumption that Yi no longer has access to the Primordial Roots (It is unclear if Penglai had a Primordial Root system as well. Presumably so from the old cutscenes?) and he is no longer being revived by them. That means the Tianhuo virus is actually lethal to him now. He now needs to take the same precautions as the other Solarians to extend his life, by using the Soulscape pods and only occasionally stepping out to make sure Penglai is stable (And visit the grave site). Second, what was up with the humans there, including the "two Shuanshuans"? I'd venture to say it is a bit of a dark answer. If we accept that Yi is indeed extending his life with the Soulscape pod, then this could be long after they arrive at Penglai. This means Shuanshuan would have grown up. Given the observed confusion about who is who mentioned earlier, this means that both of the children were probably clones of Shuanshuan. This is probably the case for the adult human too, who looked remarkably like the "Shuanshuans" next to him. The "real Shuanshuan" probably died a long time ago. It is possible that Shuanshuan himself was put into a Soulscape or hooked up to the machines as a brain, but we have no evidence of that. This explains why Yi's Soulscape pod is so prominent, and why there are two (if not more) Shuanshuans.
It's not even an ending. It's just a cutscene in the middle of the game that helps establish *why* Yi revives from the roots. Now, it's a good cutscene, and an important one, shown by the fact that it's one of the few fully animated ones, but nonetheless, not an ending.
I think normal ending is no doubt bad ending though...when you come closer to see the background in 13:23 , and to think where are Kuafu and Shennon going, why Shuenshuen isn't the one playing Qiankun, what does she means 'waiting ages'. It seems to besomething fuck up...
Ngl true ending sad as shit but felt needed Just didn’t sit right with me and I was numb for a little Then the last part hit and then I just felt stupid
@@lucyhearts472 considering the developers of 9 sols being red candle games and the lady ethereal boss fight it does imply that the scape will eventually become imbalanced in power (suggesting another series of events similar to 9sols as yi taking the place of eigong) while true ending cuts off from new penglai completely While one may be more satisfying in the moment, true ending’s long term is healthier than normal ending (under the assumption they are using lady ethereal’s tech)
@@likeablekiwi6265 I meant healthier in the long run for the villagers Again it’s red candle games and their endings are meant to have an open interpretation or bitter/unfinished However your “far future” observation is definitely valid
It sucks that there's no endings other than suicide or rot. I wish they had an ending where Yi planted the bomb and left with the humans, that way we could see him die of old age{Since he'd no longer have immortality from the roots}, and join his sister then. Both endings give an unfinished feeling, which is a shame. Good game regardless! Love the video. Edit: I still love the 'good' ending. Though I do feel it makes Yi seem a bit shallow. He still doesn't mend his relationship with Kuafu, nor does he keep his promise to Shuanshuan. Feels like his character growth gets capped, since he still sees in only black & white.
Honestly I think it's a fitting end. Yi either never changes from what he once was, a stubborn person who is too focused on obtaining scientific improvements that only prolong his race's suffering. Or sacrificing his life to ensure the humans live on and end his race's misery. Him dying is fitting because his sister believes that the cycle of nature should be respected yet she revived him twice when he died, so him sacrificing his life for a good cause is his way of paying back his sister and he gets to meet her again in the afterlife.
There's a reason why Yi doesn't survive, and that's a cultural difference between oriental and occidental philosophies. The whole game is based on "Tao", which means "acceptance of the natural causes" (between many, MANY other things, and not as "clear" as "natural causes"). Yi should be dead AGES ago, when the Mystic Nymph exploded. When he sees that the primordial roots are infected, and he's the only one that can destroy, and there's no way he can escape because the whole place is covered by infected roots, he accepts what he should have accepted ages ago: that it's his time to go, to be reunited with his sister. Sure, it sucks for Shuanshuan, but he will also have to accept this lesson in time. Bittersweet ending indeed, and my occidental brain also wants for Yi to live, but that's because I still believe "life > death", and that's not how Taoism, and Buddhism, believes things to be.
Yeah y'all bring up a good point, with it being the religion it's based off of it makes sense. Edit: I'm aware of why they chose this ending and by no means am I saying it's bad, I'm just noting the sorta all for nothing vibe it gives.
I'm honestly fed up with sacrifical endings at this point, they are soo overly used nowadays that it's starting to get boring. You don't need to kill off your mc to prove he has had a character growth, what's the point of them becoming better individuals if they are not gonna be alive at the end to continue being those better people?. If you feel you need to kill off your main character at the end in order to leave an emotional impact its because you don't have confidence in your story up to this point and don't know how to write a happy ending. Each time i play a new game with this kind of dark setting where they show the character developing during the story in my mind i'm always like "sight, hes gonna die at the end right?"
@@FlamedramonX sameeee... Ngl it would've hit harder and worked better if Yi got to live - with Kuafu and Shuanshuan and ensure humankind's bright future(maybe it would've evolved into sm like our modern world?) It's not only bc me being sad he's dead but like... What Kuafu and humankind will do once they reach the Pale Blue planet??? Like they went there completely bare. Kuafu is a genius sure, but it was still Yi's knowledge combined with his craftsmanship that they were able to create so much technology. Like, I don't look at this ending "saaad Yi died, want him alive"(although that's what I truly feel) but rather "ok, wtf are they gonna do if Yi dies? Die of cold, lack of medical knowledge, hunger or many many many other threats that could've been solved with Yi's intelligence?" As much as true ending hit feels, it just... Idk, like you said feels as a followed trope "if mc has character development they must sacrifice themselves without even a chance to show their growth" What about the consequences of Yi's death and no one but Kuafu there with humankind?
I went and got the 'True' Ending on my first playthrough, so I didn't see the regular one. Honestly... the standard ending seems like the good ending. In the true ending, Eigong condemns the entirety of the Solarian race to evolution, and Yi chooses extinction to stop her instead. Knowing everyone on Penglai was supposed to die, and with the destruction of New Kunlun, this implies Kuafu is the last Solarian left. Also, the cutscene at the end is just a flashback in the game. It's actually a factor for Yi becoming a Sol (and semi-parallels Ji becoming a Sol). Edit: I understand the true ending fulfills the Taoist philosophy in the game. It just feels so saddening that invest into the Solarian plight, but they are doomed to die in the true ending, no matter your efforts.
yeah, the "true" ending is significantly less satisfying than the "regular" ending. It's a little silly how you have to do extra work and fight an extra difficult final boss to get an ending that is, by all means, just worse then the regular ending. Wish the "regular" and "true" endings were swapped around.
@@MrTheBestTwo imho the true ending is better, solarians are condemn by the plage which is impossible to heal (for what i understood), the normal ending is just sad and bland, nothing happens, while in the true one, there is a more certain tomorrow
The normal ending is literally using apemen as livestock to harvest their brains for computational power but with most of the people capable of developing a cure for the Tianhuo dead, its impossible to cure, the solarians are still doomed. All the normal ending does is prolong the inevitable at the cost of apemen livesm
It's annoying why they don't bring the apemen into the plot more. Like why are they immune to the Tianhuo virus? None of them sprouted whenever killed and that never bothered the Solarians apparently. They could just figure out a way to manifest that immunity to themselves so atleast the new generations will be immune or something. This plot is not that realistic anyway, if this happened to us we would ultimately do quarantine first and foremost basically seperating the healthy and the contaminated. And we are less advanced than them as well. The whole virus thing is never even explained properly like how they started, how it infects others and what their understanding of it. Overall, I think the world-building and aesthetics of the game is great but ultimately the weak point is the story itself.
Watching the true ending I ended up thinking in a short comic. (Be careful with spoilers) Frame 1, 2 and 3 It starts from the POV of Someone is in the verge of death, he is lying on a bed in his last moments, he is surronded by his family and friends. Giving his last words he dies in peace. Them everything turns black (There is a cat in the background that looks like Yi ) Frame 3 and 4 He wakes up, the old man is walking with his walking cane on a path in a white flower field. Frame 5, 6 and 7 Slowly he continues to walk, and he remembers what was the last thing he wrote on his diary, it was like a letter for someone from long ago. The old man start reading the letter that tells how was his life after landing in the pale blue planet and what he's been doing and how he helped the people arond him until his inevitable death of old age and his return to Tao. Frame 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 He starts talking about the time when he was a kid, and he tells how it was when Kuafu passed away because of the Tianhuo virus, then Shennong a couple of years later of old age, and he asks how is everyone doing while waiting for him, since he is the last person who is missing, the last person who originally came from space. At this moment the old man begins to get younger and younger. Frame 13 Then it's revealed that the old man is Shuanshuan and he is on his path to the afterlife, the wind blows and shakes his hair while he is looking for something far away while he continues with his letter, telling that he lived a long life like he said when he was a kid. Frame 14 and 15 He is a little younger now and can walk without his walking cane. After realizing that he doen't need a walking cane anymore Shuanshuan starts running. Frame 16, 17 and 18 It's hard in the beginning but step by step it's getting easier, and he seens to be saying something, calling for someone. While he still reading the letter he tells what he wants to do after see everyone again after all these years. Frame 19, 20 and 21 Someone who is holding a green pipe blowing green smoke can be seen by distance, he is talking with his sister and Shuanshuan's parents alongside Kuafu, Shennong, Chiyou and abacus who are a little drunk. Frame 22, 23 and 24 From far away Yi can hear a familiar voice "YI!!" and "BIG BROTHER!!". Kuafu then calls Yi, he points to Shuanshuan announcing his arrival and comments about how old Shuanshuan got. (I dont know, let's put that Shuanshuan lived for almost 120 years) Frame 25 Shuanshuan can see that Yi is with his family and the friends he met during his journey and they all were waiting for Shuanshuan to start a banquet to welcome him (Chien and Shanhai 9000 are there too). Frame 26 and 27 Shuanshuan still running, and step by step until he turns into a child again, even exausted he wont stop running. Frame 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33 They are happy to see each other again, Everyone is having fun. the camera gets more distant and they desapear as they are turning into smoke and returning to the nothingness. THE END Now I don't know what each one could do in the last painels, so lets leave this to your imagination I'm not a native english speaker, so if there is an error with my writing let me know What do you think of this concept idea? is it good?
Fam literally be like: fvck this ending imma make my own cannon end! tbf most media we consume nowadays leaves us disappointed which in turn netizens post their own.
@@leonardoeneria3100 nah, it wasn't disappointment with the ending, just an idea that came from nowhere and I decided to write about it. This story I wrote is something that happens more than a 100 years in the future, after the true ending and doesn't affect the original time line and I tried to mantain the coerence with the original story (According to the data points and all interactions the characters had during the game)
This is actually in line with the game's true ending. You cooked good my friend, do you want to make a comic out of this I know someone who can draw pretty good
I think many people completely miss the point of the true ending. They aren't realizing that in order for the solarians to survive, they have to forever subjigate the apemen, harvesting their brains to keep the soulscape running. And even if the soulscape is something that can function indefinitely, its shown in game that the soulscape is not a good way to live. Yi, through his relationship with Shaunshaun, begins to see the apemen as more than just livestock. And when he sacrifices himself to destroy New Kunlun, he is accepting that the reign of Solarians is over, saving his race from being turned into mindless mutants, and ending the sibjigation of the apemen.
Hmmm, the colours at the end of the normal ending do remind me of Lady Ethereals solscape... and the scene with the apeman does seem a bit surreal... i wonder if this is even real or if he packed himself in a cryochamber with the solscape on...
@@dummkopf8888 Heng already said, the tianhuo was more completing cycles than being something really negative, and the tianhuo had existed for a long time and yet the species prospered
Exactly, I need ending where Yi survived and three of them - Yi, Kuafu and Shuanshuan make a bright future with humankind Maybe it could evolve into version of our modern world?
I just beat the game without watching any videos or reading any reviews and I had no idea there were multiple endings! WOW WOW! I played through and got the normal ending. Now I'm going to have to play again and achieve these other endings.
I just think it's annoying how Eigong decides to kill herself and start the planetwide evolution for Yi to have to sacrifice himself to destroy everything but only if he saves the apemen. In the bad ending Yi could have just gone to live with ShuanShuan on the bllue planet anyways. If Yi just said the right things he could have made it look like he was going to try and save the sols and waiting for Einong to die before he took the ship with all the apemen to the blue planet.
Eigong been desperately live on researching the cure from the disease. Until one day she become frustated and stated that she should accept the evolution (a.k.a going crazy). If, the writer happen to end the story by leting Yi excape new Kunlun with all apemen to the Earth, Eigong will chase them later on just to harvest the brain again for the computation purposes.. Or, the virus will be wildly evolutioned to become more malignant. Overall, its all just my opinion based on what i know 😅
@@tosan4470 No because you defeat Eigong anyways in the bad ending. Eigong dies either way but only decides to use her last moments to destroy the planet in the good ending. I feel like I just said that though
Going to the Blue Planet without confronting Eigong doesn't accomplish anything. What's happening in the final confrontation is Yi and Eigong battling for control of the sun. If Yi loses then Eigong uses it to power the Eternal Cauldron and the Earth is doomed utter extinction without light or warmth.
God, Nine Sols was so damn dark. I should've known going in because it's a 'Souls-like' and those tend to be both extremely hard and extremely depressing. Both endings are incredibly sad, it's just your choice of one being bittersweet and another being nothing short of nihilistic and depressing. The Normal Ending is considered the bad ending for a reason, Yi is only prolonging the Solarian's inevitable demise while continuing the oppression of the Apemen. As we see, all Solarians on Penglai likely died out hundreds of years ago, the only ones left are Yi, Kuafu and those in stasis. The Tianhuo is a genetic virus too, it cannot be cured without Solarians reverting to a more primitive form, as it is also what gives them their intelligence. In the True Ending or, 'Good ending' Yi finally understands that there is no curing the Tianhuo. It's the good ending because it's essentially doing what is best for both races, the Solarians that remain are suffering, putting them out of their misery is simply the right thing to do at this point. The only thing the Eternal Cauldron Project has done is prolong that suffering instead of letting them take the bow out gracefully. Yi may have killed the remaining Solarians but one could argue that is the only good thing that can be done for them, a mercy, if you will. At least he gave his race one final blaze of glory and returned the Apemen to where they belong, because at least there's hope for them.
I'm honestly fed up with sacrifical endings at this point, they are soo overly used nowadays that it's starting to get boring. You don't need to kill off your mc to prove he has had a character growth or have an emotional ending, what's the point of them becoming better individuals if they are not gonna be alive at the end to continue being those better people?. If you feel you need to kill off your main character at the end its because you don't have confidence in your story up to this point or don't know how to write a happy ending so you're afraid it will be an unsatisfying ending unless you had an emotional impact to it like the main character sacrificing their lives.
I would normally agree but specifically in Nine Sols it sort of makes sense, I guess. It's a bit anticlimactic, but it was the story of a dying race all along. The villain pursued immortality and that led to not only her own death but to her entire planet's. The whole point of the story is about accepting death.
@PinkBubblesGoApe Genociding your race because of its flaws is not a message I can get behind. In Nine Sol's setting, sure, they have the Tao. IRL there is but 1 life. Yi willfully damning all Solarians really isn't the best option. Imagine if our leaders did that to us.
I knew it since the begining of the game if this main Character, Yi, wether he is gonna die or he will become the one betrayed all his friend. Good story with a good ending. But one Question, why... Why Eigong try to kill Yi at the Begining? Why she help him, did she found Yi is the one who being choosen by the primordial root? Or because he is successfully creating a masterpiece of mystic Nymph?
At that point Yi had uncovered the lies behind the Eternal Cauldron project and that it was basically doomed, you can see it in the council chamber records before the final boss fight. He confronted Eigong and she decided to kill him to preserve the secret in the futile hope of finding a solution.
In the good ending Kuafu is the only one left, so no. But in the normal one, if Yi theoretically found a cure for the Tianhuo, then yeah the few remaining survivors from New Kunlun could eventually repopulate the planet. Though they would probably all be extremely suicidal and insane due to the long time spent trapped in the soulscapes.
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From my perspective, the true ending is just the worst kind of selfishness. Doing something for the "Greater Good" is the easiest way to blind yourself to the true nature of your actions. As the saying goes, rules are meant to be broken, and just because nature says natural order doesn't mean it should be followed beyond everything else... Self-awareness exists to make or break norms, most of what exists in this universe is static and interacts on simple terms around fundamental rules such as physics, living beings on the other hand also follow similar rules but are made complex by emotions, whims, knowledge, and novelty. We already broke the norm of our universe at the very birth of our living existence, why are we as the pinnacle of self on earth afraid of going further than that? If we remove all the flair, the true ending isn't any better than the normal ending. He destroys all the hard work of his co-workers, murders a new existence before it even begins to flutter, and kills all else that remains on the ship without their consent thinking it's for the "Greater Good" of them all. Not only did he take advantage of an old friend by handing over the survival of Shuanshuan and his race over to him on a recently defrosted planet, but he also had the gall to die entirely on his own terms not caring that he just left a person heartbroken. The dude should've at least tried to find a way to survive whilst nuking the station at the same time and I would've thought much better of the ending even if he failed but nope, he didn't even try. Although the normal ending might seem bleak, but what difference does that make? it simply went back to the previous norm albeit worse off and he even takes all responsibility after. Inheriting all the horrible deeds of his mentor due to necessity isn't at the same degree of bad as being the one who made the cycle in the first place, if all else fails even after he took over, he'd likely get to pass it over to Shuanshuan therefore continuing the cycle until it ends or succeeds, whichever comes first. We as humans also naturally live through eventual decline as we get older, The true ending is basically just a die-all route because all that remains are those who couldn't accept being worse off including himself. The so-called true ending isn't any better than the normal ending, and that's a fact.
I agree with how blowing up the station was handled, could have just shot the arrow from space or remote activated it. Kinda ironic all the advanced tech and uses a bow and arrow, though I feel like he might've planned it like that for a reason. Although I don't see how it so bad the true ending. Yes the solairans are extinct but Yi undoes what he did to the humans by stopping the harvesting and sending them back to earth. He helps them on multiple occasions throughout the game depending on player choice.
I really thought "Idonnow" way will be true ending with saved humans and solorian's space station to go to earth together and create human people and CATS. There was EARTHEN CATS and they can MULTIPLICATE.
The hidden secret research in the lab showed that Solarians devolved into cats, and Kuafu is the most prominent orange solarian we know and definitely alive at the end, and orange cats are considered the 'baseline' of cats on earth...
You know what pisses me off? True ending pulls sacrifice out of nothing. Why having bomb makes old bat infect the roots, but not having it makes her just die? Arrow solves the problem that wouldn’t exist, if we didn’t have it.
Eigong has some words at the beginning of the true ending that helps you understand. She says that Yi fights like he isn't scared, and then does her root infection. In the normal ending, she can tell Yi is still at the same stage as her. Lost and dependent on a cure. That's why she doesn't infect the roots, she thinks he will carry on her work and eventually reach the conclusion she did. But when Yi tells her he is scared, but he learned to accept failure, she freaks out. She knows Yi is prepared to move on from New Kunlun, and ironically her infecting the roots pushes him to do it.
It’s because she didn’t have time to decrypt the roots in the normal ending. If you look in the room right before the fight where the root node is, you can see that in the normal route "root decryption process" is at 20%, while in the true route it’s at 80%, probably because you briefly visited the docks to say goodbye to Kuafu, Shennong and Shuanshuan.
Instant dislike for calling normal ending "bad". Sure its anticlimatic and no one is truly happy, but still solarians still can be cured, eventually... maybe... hope stands.
The reason why the ending is bad doesn’t have to do with the fate of the solarians at all. It has to do with the fact that yi never learned from his actions and never learned to accept his sins and his sisters view points.
@@greencat6490 it's true that Yi didn't grow there... but neither did he lose any chance to. In that ending, only time can tell whether he will eventually learn from his mistakes. (At very least, I'm sure he has a good reason to learn from Eigong's mistakes, which are pretty similar.) So it can be called normal/neutral ending.
I can't say it's a good ending either. Yi went to Penglai, as nothing was standing before him that could oppose him. He created another soulscape there, killing god knows how many 'apemen' to achieve his selfish ideas of immortality. Shuanshuan also seemed extremely quiet and obedient, as if he was taught to be oppressed alongside other serving apemen. Him being closer to him seemed like he was Yi's "favourite pet servant". The girl on seat also heavily resembles Heng, Yi's dead sister.
It's great that Taiwan created this, but I'm afraid that if Taiwan gets eaten by Communist Red China, the game will turn strange. ㅠㅠ (Actually I'm korean 😅)
Bruh, China is a capitalistic coutry. They have literal moneybag-capitalists owning factories, lands and exploiting workers for profit. So don't be affraid. Nothing will change.
A little explanation on why the 'normal' ending is actually a really effing bleak one
In the normal ending, Yi hasn't experienced significant character growth that he would recognize the errors of his ways. Sure, he cares for Shuanshuan like family, but he's mostly ambivalent to the others. For what comes next, keep in mind that Yi was the one who came up with the idea of harvesting apemen brains for computational power.
There is a mention at 14:23 that PENGLAI the PLANET has a soulscape system now, one that shouldn't be having SHORT TERM computing shortages. The problem is that the soulscape system's computing power was provided by harvesting the brains of the humans/apemen and you can see by the MANY MANY MANY brains at 13:27 that there's a LOT of dead apemen. And to solve long term shortages? It's going to need many, many, many more brains.
New Kunlun is just an island and its use of the brains was already massive, but to create something on the scale of the planet would require A LOT MORE apeman deaths to power than just a single island.
There's also the fact that there really is no hope for a cure for the Tianhuo virus. All of the best scientists are already dead with the sole exception of Yi and maybe Kuafu, but even he's likely dead because at 12:12 you can see Yi paying respects to a grave with a flower on it that's either Kuafu or Heng. So all Yi's doing is prolonging the inevitable while simultaneously damning who knows how many thousands or even millions of apemen to have their brains extracted, kept as livestock with a few exceptions like Shuanshuan and the two others he's with. All of this just to stall for a little more time for an already dead/dying race.
He's pretty much someone Heng would be absolutely ashamed of.
To make things more Bleak, all those brains might have all come from Shuan Shuan Clones. Notice that all three of them are named Shuan Shuan.
@@X1304d Only the middle one was referred to as Shuanshuan...
On top of that, the "glitches" at 14:33 could also imply that Yi at that moment is in his own soulscape and maybe going through something similar to Lady Etheral. (Maybe unlikely, but those pixels flashing up imeadiatly made me think of it.)
As someone who didn't play the game, but made enough research to have some context, I think there's a "cure" for the Tianhuo virus. In fact, it already existed before it started to spread and it was turning the whole population into asymptomatic carriers like they were before the Tianhuo virus was triggered
I think that the bad ending has to do with him dying and going into the soulscape to escape into his dreams. You see all the containment-tubes full of alive Solarians when we know everyone on Tiang died whilst most (if not everyone by the end of the game) on Konloun would also be dead or mutated, you see the soulscapes running fine despite the fact that shipping brains back and forth would take 1000 years for the two-way trip, you see him playing with Shuan despite Shuan clearly stating that he knew their last match had already been played.
At least that's what I think
I know we all want Yi to live and save the Solarians, but the point of the game is that you can't stop death from happening eventually. The only way to "escape" death is to mutate into the hive-mind regenerating monsters, who even Eigong said were a new species and weren't really solarians anymore. So, either way "Solarians" are dead. The true ending is Yi accepting that not everything is in his control and that sometimes you have to let go and embrace what happens. I know it's not something we like to think about, but folks who are faced with terminal illnesses have to deal with this decision as well. It's tough, and it's meant to be. It's okay to be upset about it and need to sit with the ending a while.
I think the writers tried to imply that you can't cure the virus either. When they took the virus out of embryos, the Solarians that were born weren't Solarians, they were just house cats, with no intelligence or sentience, suggesting you can't cure the virus without losing the Solarians in either direction (either hive-mind or house cat). I know folks want there to be an ending where if we just prolonged the abuse and harvest of the apemen's brains for longer, there will be a cure for the Solarians and it will all be worth it. But Yi and the council already went down that route and the closest they got was the mutating hive-mind virus. It's just not going to be cured and continuing down this path just perpetuates more suffering for everyone (apemen AND solarians, who do not do well long term in the vital sanctums).
I think this comments section needs to go back to 6th grade english (assuming they aren't already) to learn how to engage with the thematic messages of a story. The lack of media literacy is astounding.
Paced
looking at the normal ending prove that this doesn't make any fking sense. In normal ending she is too weak to corrupt the core (and the core isn't even expose for some reason), while in true end she does
@@leesasukiif you paid attention you'd realize that in the true ending we took far longer to fight her since the energy level in the normal is 20 and in the true ending it's at 80% which means that probably the mutation had time to evolve in her and make her stronger
Bad ending it just a scene flashback young Yi first died😢
Sad
Is that the second time he dies and have to watch an add to revive
Sad truth
Technically it just says "this should be the bad ending"
THE ENDINGS OF NINE SOLS:
Yi fuckin explodes
OR
Yi fuckin explodes
This was funny, but it was untrue. There are only two endings. The normal one and the true one. The "ending" shown at the end is (I think, I don't remember when it happens) a mid-game cutscene.
@@gearscore349you are correct, it's one of Yi's flashbacks
It doesn't get as much talk as the Good Ending, but my take on the Normal Ending is that it is taking place within Yi's Soulscape. The color schema is very similar to Lady Ethereal's, not to mention the floating boulders above the lake (EDIT - Watching some cutscenes, I saw in the flashback of Yi and Heng talking at their parents' grave, you can see vague silhouettes of floating rocks. That part might be normal for Penglai, but the sky was a light blue color, not the purple we see in the Normal Ending. If anything, the fact that the color is closer to what we see in Lady Ethereal's soulscape than what we see in an actual memory seems to suggest all the more that this isn't real.).
Moreover, Shuanshuan doesn't seem to have any depth to him, he's just there to be Yi's pet, never questioning anything he's doing and just playing Qiankun. I highly suspect the real Shuanshuan also might not be okay with the endless rows of human brains... Also, let's point out that there are TWO human children? And there is some serious question about who is who. The left one says "Look Shuanshuan! Yi's back!" Which implies that the one on the right is Shuanshuan? The one on the right goes on to say "I told you so! He came back real quick." Which is something Shuanshuan would say about Yi. But then the left one says "I've been waiting ages for you! Let's play Qiankun!" And then proceeds to play Qiankun with Yi, something very much tied to Shuanshuan. So, which one is Shuanshuan, the left or right, and why are there two at all? If we were interpreting this at face value, the left child addressed the right one as Shuanshuan, so that should settle it. But then why would someone else who looks exactly like Shuanshuan be playing Qiankun with Yi instead? Unless we have some age-current clone of Shuanshuan here (Which would need a whole separate theory on its own), none of this makes any sense, which lends all the more credence to this not being real.
So why would Yi do this? Why would he put himself into a Soulscape on Penglai? Yi couldn't actually solve the problems facing the Solarians, so following Cipher's lead and "putting himself back in the Matrix" was the best he could do. One might say, then what of the tanks of brains used for computing power and the reports of managing the Soulscape? Easy; Yi's "ideal" is that he is the hero, that his research projects worked and were executed properly. Also, who are the other humans surrounding Shuanshuan? They don't look like other members of the village, and if Shuanshuan is still the age he apparently was during the events of the game, then not enough time has passed to train up new humans. Why Yi would make "two Shuanshuans" in this Soulscape is beyond my best guesses. Again, part of Yi's plan is to use the humans to do what the Solarians cannot and although Penglai being restored to pre-Tianhuo would be ideal, Yi's true "Heaven" in this case (As part of a self-centered vision) is not the best for everyone, but the best for him and his research project succeeding.
But then why couldn't Yi just put himself in a Soulscape on New Kunlun? I think there are four possible answers to this. First, he also wanted actual revenge and not simply to "feel better". Second, he might not be able to safely enter a Soulscape on New Kunlun, since he became an enemy of the council. Third, perhaps his "real world" goals included as much of a reversal of the entire New Kunlun project as possible, returning literally the entire world back home. Fourth, from both a narrative in-world and meta-narrative gaming perspective, Yi was a free agent who was still thinking through his decisions; this might not have been his plan the entire time, but by the time he reached Penglai that is what he settled on doing. He may have actually tried to accomplish something on Penglai that we don't see in the cutscene, but when he realized he could not and that there was nothing left to do, he gave up and put himself in a Soulscape; there is no evidence that this cutscene occurs immediately upon arriving and if anything, the structure in place suggests it takes place some time after arriving.
EDIT - One piece of "evidence" to top it all off. It was hiding in plain sight! When Yi gets off the transport and walks over to "Shuanshuan," he walks right past a Soulscape pod up on top of the stairs. Although it wouldn't make sense from an internal game narrative, it seems like the perfect clue to leave for the player to see. Not only that, it has YI'S PERSONAL SOL SEAL on it! The same one we see back at the Four Seasons Pavilion. Actually, this leads a lot of evidence to a second theory...
THEORY 2 - Now that I think about it, this second theory actually ties up more loose ends. What we are observing IS real. First, what is up with the Soulscape pod with Yi's Sol Seal on it? Although a more thorough analysis is needed, I am operating on the assumption that Yi no longer has access to the Primordial Roots (It is unclear if Penglai had a Primordial Root system as well. Presumably so from the old cutscenes?) and he is no longer being revived by them. That means the Tianhuo virus is actually lethal to him now. He now needs to take the same precautions as the other Solarians to extend his life, by using the Soulscape pods and only occasionally stepping out to make sure Penglai is stable (And visit the grave site). Second, what was up with the humans there, including the "two Shuanshuans"? I'd venture to say it is a bit of a dark answer. If we accept that Yi is indeed extending his life with the Soulscape pod, then this could be long after they arrive at Penglai. This means Shuanshuan would have grown up. Given the observed confusion about who is who mentioned earlier, this means that both of the children were probably clones of Shuanshuan. This is probably the case for the adult human too, who looked remarkably like the "Shuanshuans" next to him. The "real Shuanshuan" probably died a long time ago. It is possible that Shuanshuan himself was put into a Soulscape or hooked up to the machines as a brain, but we have no evidence of that. This explains why Yi's Soulscape pod is so prominent, and why there are two (if not more) Shuanshuans.
The third one shouldn't be considered a bad ending, rather a death scene of younger Yi.
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It's not even an ending. It's just a cutscene in the middle of the game that helps establish *why* Yi revives from the roots. Now, it's a good cutscene, and an important one, shown by the fact that it's one of the few fully animated ones, but nonetheless, not an ending.
@@Era043 It's serving the important purpose of letting the poster pad out the video with more run time for another ad break.
I think normal ending is no doubt bad ending though...when you come closer to see the background in 13:23 , and to think where are Kuafu and Shennon going, why Shuenshuen isn't the one playing Qiankun, what does she means 'waiting ages'.
It seems to besomething fuck up...
Ngl true ending sad as shit but felt needed
Just didn’t sit right with me and I was numb for a little
Then the last part hit and then I just felt stupid
I still prefer the normal ending though
@@lucyhearts472 considering the developers of 9 sols being red candle games and the lady ethereal boss fight it does imply that the scape will eventually become imbalanced in power (suggesting another series of events similar to 9sols as yi taking the place of eigong) while true ending cuts off from new penglai completely
While one may be more satisfying in the moment, true ending’s long term is healthier than normal ending (under the assumption they are using lady ethereal’s tech)
@@nameless3544dwb @anthonyz4666 Cant really be any healthier if you're dead... As for humans, freedom to make the same mistakes in the far future lol.
@@likeablekiwi6265 I meant healthier in the long run for the villagers
Again it’s red candle games and their endings are meant to have an open interpretation or bitter/unfinished
However your “far future” observation is definitely valid
The most shocking thing for me in this game is that despite the cute and colorful arstyle there is also blatant violence that blend in perfectly
Right?
@@thegongoolzler2677 for real i am so impressed
That’s like 80% of video games bro💀
It sucks that there's no endings other than suicide or rot.
I wish they had an ending where Yi planted the bomb and left with the humans, that way we could see him die of old age{Since he'd no longer have immortality from the roots}, and join his sister then.
Both endings give an unfinished feeling, which is a shame. Good game regardless!
Love the video.
Edit: I still love the 'good' ending. Though I do feel it makes Yi seem a bit shallow. He still doesn't mend his relationship with Kuafu, nor does he keep his promise to Shuanshuan. Feels like his character growth gets capped, since he still sees in only black & white.
Honestly I think it's a fitting end. Yi either never changes from what he once was, a stubborn person who is too focused on obtaining scientific improvements that only prolong his race's suffering. Or sacrificing his life to ensure the humans live on and end his race's misery. Him dying is fitting because his sister believes that the cycle of nature should be respected yet she revived him twice when he died, so him sacrificing his life for a good cause is his way of paying back his sister and he gets to meet her again in the afterlife.
There's a reason why Yi doesn't survive, and that's a cultural difference between oriental and occidental philosophies. The whole game is based on "Tao", which means "acceptance of the natural causes" (between many, MANY other things, and not as "clear" as "natural causes").
Yi should be dead AGES ago, when the Mystic Nymph exploded. When he sees that the primordial roots are infected, and he's the only one that can destroy, and there's no way he can escape because the whole place is covered by infected roots, he accepts what he should have accepted ages ago: that it's his time to go, to be reunited with his sister. Sure, it sucks for Shuanshuan, but he will also have to accept this lesson in time.
Bittersweet ending indeed, and my occidental brain also wants for Yi to live, but that's because I still believe "life > death", and that's not how Taoism, and Buddhism, believes things to be.
Yeah y'all bring up a good point, with it being the religion it's based off of it makes sense.
Edit: I'm aware of why they chose this ending and by no means am I saying it's bad, I'm just noting the sorta all for nothing vibe it gives.
I'm honestly fed up with sacrifical endings at this point, they are soo overly used nowadays that it's starting to get boring. You don't need to kill off your mc to prove he has had a character growth, what's the point of them becoming better individuals if they are not gonna be alive at the end to continue being those better people?. If you feel you need to kill off your main character at the end in order to leave an emotional impact its because you don't have confidence in your story up to this point and don't know how to write a happy ending. Each time i play a new game with this kind of dark setting where they show the character developing during the story in my mind i'm always like "sight, hes gonna die at the end right?"
@@FlamedramonX sameeee...
Ngl it would've hit harder and worked better if Yi got to live - with Kuafu and Shuanshuan and ensure humankind's bright future(maybe it would've evolved into sm like our modern world?)
It's not only bc me being sad he's dead but like... What Kuafu and humankind will do once they reach the Pale Blue planet??? Like they went there completely bare. Kuafu is a genius sure, but it was still Yi's knowledge combined with his craftsmanship that they were able to create so much technology.
Like, I don't look at this ending "saaad Yi died, want him alive"(although that's what I truly feel) but rather "ok, wtf are they gonna do if Yi dies? Die of cold, lack of medical knowledge, hunger or many many many other threats that could've been solved with Yi's intelligence?"
As much as true ending hit feels, it just... Idk, like you said feels as a followed trope "if mc has character development they must sacrifice themselves without even a chance to show their growth"
What about the consequences of Yi's death and no one but Kuafu there with humankind?
I went and got the 'True' Ending on my first playthrough, so I didn't see the regular one. Honestly... the standard ending seems like the good ending. In the true ending, Eigong condemns the entirety of the Solarian race to evolution, and Yi chooses extinction to stop her instead. Knowing everyone on Penglai was supposed to die, and with the destruction of New Kunlun, this implies Kuafu is the last Solarian left.
Also, the cutscene at the end is just a flashback in the game. It's actually a factor for Yi becoming a Sol (and semi-parallels Ji becoming a Sol).
Edit: I understand the true ending fulfills the Taoist philosophy in the game. It just feels so saddening that invest into the Solarian plight, but they are doomed to die in the true ending, no matter your efforts.
yeah, the "true" ending is significantly less satisfying than the "regular" ending. It's a little silly how you have to do extra work and fight an extra difficult final boss to get an ending that is, by all means, just worse then the regular ending. Wish the "regular" and "true" endings were swapped around.
@@MrTheBestTwo imho the true ending is better, solarians are condemn by the plage which is impossible to heal (for what i understood), the normal ending is just sad and bland, nothing happens, while in the true one, there is a more certain tomorrow
The normal ending is literally using apemen as livestock to harvest their brains for computational power but with most of the people capable of developing a cure for the Tianhuo dead, its impossible to cure, the solarians are still doomed. All the normal ending does is prolong the inevitable at the cost of apemen livesm
look at @Blankie-P 's explanation why the normal ending is the bad one. as of now it is the 3rd highest comment on this vidio.
It's annoying why they don't bring the apemen into the plot more. Like why are they immune to the Tianhuo virus? None of them sprouted whenever killed and that never bothered the Solarians apparently. They could just figure out a way to manifest that immunity to themselves so atleast the new generations will be immune or something. This plot is not that realistic anyway, if this happened to us we would ultimately do quarantine first and foremost basically seperating the healthy and the contaminated. And we are less advanced than them as well. The whole virus thing is never even explained properly like how they started, how it infects others and what their understanding of it. Overall, I think the world-building and aesthetics of the game is great but ultimately the weak point is the story itself.
Watching the true ending I ended up thinking in a short comic.
(Be careful with spoilers)
Frame 1, 2 and 3
It starts from the POV of Someone is in the verge of death, he is lying on a bed in his last moments, he is surronded by his family and friends. Giving his last words he dies in peace. Them everything turns black (There is a cat in the background that looks like Yi )
Frame 3 and 4
He wakes up, the old man is walking with his walking cane on a path in a white flower field.
Frame 5, 6 and 7
Slowly he continues to walk, and he remembers what was the last thing he wrote on his diary, it was like a letter for someone from long ago.
The old man start reading the letter that tells how was his life after landing in the pale blue planet and what he's been doing and how he helped the people arond him until his inevitable death of old age and his return to Tao.
Frame 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12
He starts talking about the time when he was a kid, and he tells how it was when Kuafu passed away because of the Tianhuo virus, then Shennong a couple of years later of old age, and he asks how is everyone doing while waiting for him, since he is the last person who is missing, the last person who originally came from space. At this moment the old man begins to get younger and younger.
Frame 13
Then it's revealed that the old man is Shuanshuan and he is on his path to the afterlife, the wind blows and shakes his hair while he is looking for something far away while he continues with his letter, telling that he lived a long life like he said when he was a kid.
Frame 14 and 15
He is a little younger now and can walk without his walking cane. After realizing that he doen't need a walking cane anymore Shuanshuan starts running.
Frame 16, 17 and 18
It's hard in the beginning but step by step it's getting easier, and he seens to be saying something, calling for someone. While he still reading the letter he tells what he wants to do after see everyone again after all these years.
Frame 19, 20 and 21
Someone who is holding a green pipe blowing green smoke can be seen by distance, he is talking with his sister and Shuanshuan's parents alongside Kuafu, Shennong, Chiyou and abacus who are a little drunk.
Frame 22, 23 and 24
From far away Yi can hear a familiar voice "YI!!" and "BIG BROTHER!!". Kuafu then calls Yi, he points to Shuanshuan announcing his arrival and comments about how old Shuanshuan got. (I dont know, let's put that Shuanshuan lived for almost 120 years)
Frame 25
Shuanshuan can see that Yi is with his family and the friends he met during his journey and they all were waiting for Shuanshuan to start a banquet to welcome him (Chien and Shanhai 9000 are there too).
Frame 26 and 27
Shuanshuan still running, and step by step until he turns into a child again, even exausted he wont stop running.
Frame 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33
They are happy to see each other again, Everyone is having fun. the camera gets more distant and they desapear as they are turning into smoke and returning to the nothingness.
THE END
Now I don't know what each one could do in the last painels, so lets leave this to your imagination
I'm not a native english speaker, so if there is an error with my writing let me know
What do you think of this concept idea? is it good?
its good
Fam literally be like: fvck this ending imma make my own cannon end!
tbf most media we consume nowadays leaves us disappointed which in turn netizens post their own.
@@leonardoeneria3100 nah, it wasn't disappointment with the ending, just an idea that came from nowhere and I decided to write about it.
This story I wrote is something that happens more than a 100 years in the future, after the true ending and doesn't affect the original time line and I tried to mantain the coerence with the original story (According to the data points and all interactions the characters had during the game)
This is actually in line with the game's true ending. You cooked good my friend, do you want to make a comic out of this I know someone who can draw pretty good
This would make a cool epilogue ending.
I think many people completely miss the point of the true ending. They aren't realizing that in order for the solarians to survive, they have to forever subjigate the apemen, harvesting their brains to keep the soulscape running. And even if the soulscape is something that can function indefinitely, its shown in game that the soulscape is not a good way to live. Yi, through his relationship with Shaunshaun, begins to see the apemen as more than just livestock. And when he sacrifices himself to destroy New Kunlun, he is accepting that the reign of Solarians is over, saving his race from being turned into mindless mutants, and ending the sibjigation of the apemen.
Hmmm, the colours at the end of the normal ending do remind me of Lady Ethereals solscape... and the scene with the apeman does seem a bit surreal... i wonder if this is even real or if he packed himself in a cryochamber with the solscape on...
>good ending
(literally whole solarian kind was perished)
Well, save for one, but yeah
@@trevhart2124 he's doomed tho cause of the disease
No, only the few left in new kunlun, most are in penglai
@@lavandalavada4228 they will die (if they didnt yet) to tianhuo
@@dummkopf8888 Heng already said, the tianhuo was more completing cycles than being something really negative, and the tianhuo had existed for a long time and yet the species prospered
ngl, I hope there's a DLC that brings in a third ending option. Neither of the two feel satisfying.
Exactly, I need ending where Yi survived and three of them - Yi, Kuafu and Shuanshuan make a bright future with humankind
Maybe it could evolve into version of our modern world?
That's not really the story RCGs is going for. As much as i'd like to see a happy ending, wrong people, wrong space island.
I just beat the game without watching any videos or reading any reviews and I had no idea there were multiple endings! WOW WOW! I played through and got the normal ending. Now I'm going to have to play again and achieve these other endings.
I just think it's annoying how Eigong decides to kill herself and start the planetwide evolution for Yi to have to sacrifice himself to destroy everything but only if he saves the apemen. In the bad ending Yi could have just gone to live with ShuanShuan on the bllue planet anyways. If Yi just said the right things he could have made it look like he was going to try and save the sols and waiting for Einong to die before he took the ship with all the apemen to the blue planet.
Eigong been desperately live on researching the cure from the disease. Until one day she become frustated and stated that she should accept the evolution (a.k.a going crazy). If, the writer happen to end the story by leting Yi excape new Kunlun with all apemen to the Earth, Eigong will chase them later on just to harvest the brain again for the computation purposes.. Or, the virus will be wildly evolutioned to become more malignant. Overall, its all just my opinion based on what i know 😅
@@tosan4470 No because you defeat Eigong anyways in the bad ending. Eigong dies either way but only decides to use her last moments to destroy the planet in the good ending. I feel like I just said that though
Going to the Blue Planet without confronting Eigong doesn't accomplish anything. What's happening in the final confrontation is Yi and Eigong battling for control of the sun. If Yi loses then Eigong uses it to power the Eternal Cauldron and the Earth is doomed utter extinction without light or warmth.
@@psycojester so you just didn’t read my comment and you’re gonna respond to me. Super annoying, I wonder what it’s like being mentally challenged.
This is one of my favorite games, showing that Taiwanese games deserve some more recognition. Red candle games are really good
-Taiwanese person.
God, Nine Sols was so damn dark. I should've known going in because it's a 'Souls-like' and those tend to be both extremely hard and extremely depressing. Both endings are incredibly sad, it's just your choice of one being bittersweet and another being nothing short of nihilistic and depressing. The Normal Ending is considered the bad ending for a reason, Yi is only prolonging the Solarian's inevitable demise while continuing the oppression of the Apemen. As we see, all Solarians on Penglai likely died out hundreds of years ago, the only ones left are Yi, Kuafu and those in stasis. The Tianhuo is a genetic virus too, it cannot be cured without Solarians reverting to a more primitive form, as it is also what gives them their intelligence.
In the True Ending or, 'Good ending' Yi finally understands that there is no curing the Tianhuo. It's the good ending because it's essentially doing what is best for both races, the Solarians that remain are suffering, putting them out of their misery is simply the right thing to do at this point. The only thing the Eternal Cauldron Project has done is prolong that suffering instead of letting them take the bow out gracefully. Yi may have killed the remaining Solarians but one could argue that is the only good thing that can be done for them, a mercy, if you will. At least he gave his race one final blaze of glory and returned the Apemen to where they belong, because at least there's hope for them.
stop it Yi... you're making me cry, you bastard
I'm honestly fed up with sacrifical endings at this point, they are soo overly used nowadays that it's starting to get boring. You don't need to kill off your mc to prove he has had a character growth or have an emotional ending, what's the point of them becoming better individuals if they are not gonna be alive at the end to continue being those better people?. If you feel you need to kill off your main character at the end its because you don't have confidence in your story up to this point or don't know how to write a happy ending so you're afraid it will be an unsatisfying ending unless you had an emotional impact to it like the main character sacrificing their lives.
YES LIKE BRUH somone else said that why have the growth if you are not gonna use it he dying makes his ending worse
You're damn right
It's a cliche at this point, and used too cheaply. Needs to change, and change soon.
I would normally agree but specifically in Nine Sols it sort of makes sense, I guess. It's a bit anticlimactic, but it was the story of a dying race all along. The villain pursued immortality and that led to not only her own death but to her entire planet's. The whole point of the story is about accepting death.
@PinkBubblesGoApe Genociding your race because of its flaws is not a message I can get behind. In Nine Sol's setting, sure, they have the Tao. IRL there is but 1 life. Yi willfully damning all Solarians really isn't the best option. Imagine if our leaders did that to us.
I knew it since the begining of the game if this main Character, Yi, wether he is gonna die or he will become the one betrayed all his friend. Good story with a good ending. But one Question, why... Why Eigong try to kill Yi at the Begining? Why she help him, did she found Yi is the one who being choosen by the primordial root? Or because he is successfully creating a masterpiece of mystic Nymph?
At that point Yi had uncovered the lies behind the Eternal Cauldron project and that it was basically doomed, you can see it in the council chamber records before the final boss fight. He confronted Eigong and she decided to kill him to preserve the secret in the futile hope of finding a solution.
Crying Heng is so unbearably heartbreaking that I'm glad I didn't get this ending myself.
It's a flashback but idk when it happens
@@junaidnhavakar-wh3do it probably happens after moth lady fight
I got the true ending first playthrough due to being a filthy loot fiend.
can't they just... ah... reproduce?
Unless the virus makes that impossible.... You might be cookin' with that idea!
In the good ending Kuafu is the only one left, so no. But in the normal one, if Yi theoretically found a cure for the Tianhuo, then yeah the few remaining survivors from New Kunlun could eventually repopulate the planet. Though they would probably all be extremely suicidal and insane due to the long time spent trapped in the soulscapes.
No, tianhou can even infect offspring the moment they’re born
the problem is the virus bruhhh how tf did you play the game?
@@archdruidbookwalter951 Technically he doesn't kill goumang
Game of the year. I just finished normal ending.
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i legit shed a tear at the ending
I should really start paying attention during games
6:02 music name?
track number 71. the lone sol
From my perspective, the true ending is just the worst kind of selfishness. Doing something for the "Greater Good" is the easiest way to blind yourself to the true nature of your actions. As the saying goes, rules are meant to be broken, and just because nature says natural order doesn't mean it should be followed beyond everything else... Self-awareness exists to make or break norms, most of what exists in this universe is static and interacts on simple terms around fundamental rules such as physics, living beings on the other hand also follow similar rules but are made complex by emotions, whims, knowledge, and novelty. We already broke the norm of our universe at the very birth of our living existence, why are we as the pinnacle of self on earth afraid of going further than that?
If we remove all the flair, the true ending isn't any better than the normal ending. He destroys all the hard work of his co-workers, murders a new existence before it even begins to flutter, and kills all else that remains on the ship without their consent thinking it's for the "Greater Good" of them all. Not only did he take advantage of an old friend by handing over the survival of Shuanshuan and his race over to him on a recently defrosted planet, but he also had the gall to die entirely on his own terms not caring that he just left a person heartbroken. The dude should've at least tried to find a way to survive whilst nuking the station at the same time and I would've thought much better of the ending even if he failed but nope, he didn't even try.
Although the normal ending might seem bleak, but what difference does that make? it simply went back to the previous norm albeit worse off and he even takes all responsibility after. Inheriting all the horrible deeds of his mentor due to necessity isn't at the same degree of bad as being the one who made the cycle in the first place, if all else fails even after he took over, he'd likely get to pass it over to Shuanshuan therefore continuing the cycle until it ends or succeeds, whichever comes first. We as humans also naturally live through eventual decline as we get older, The true ending is basically just a die-all route because all that remains are those who couldn't accept being worse off including himself.
The so-called true ending isn't any better than the normal ending, and that's a fact.
I agree with how blowing up the station was handled, could have just shot the arrow from space or remote activated it.
Kinda ironic all the advanced tech and uses a bow and arrow, though I feel like he might've planned it like that for a reason.
Although I don't see how it so bad the true ending. Yes the solairans are extinct but Yi undoes what he did to the humans by stopping the harvesting and sending them back to earth. He helps them on multiple occasions throughout the game depending on player choice.
undeveloped yi sounding ass
You seem like a "Griffith did nothing wrong" type of dude....
True ending of this game reminds me of Hollow Knight, the mc have to die (though I'm not sure if the Hollow Knight one was considered dead)
I really thought "Idonnow" way will be true ending with saved humans and solorian's space station to go to earth together and create human people and CATS. There was EARTHEN CATS and they can MULTIPLICATE.
The hidden secret research in the lab showed that Solarians devolved into cats, and Kuafu is the most prominent orange solarian we know and definitely alive at the end, and orange cats are considered the 'baseline' of cats on earth...
Nah i’m satisfied with the normal ending.
Lol so That in the last ending that Giant liquid pink Thing is like Hive mind?
You know what pisses me off? True ending pulls sacrifice out of nothing. Why having bomb makes old bat infect the roots, but not having it makes her just die? Arrow solves the problem that wouldn’t exist, if we didn’t have it.
Eigong has some words at the beginning of the true ending that helps you understand. She says that Yi fights like he isn't scared, and then does her root infection.
In the normal ending, she can tell Yi is still at the same stage as her. Lost and dependent on a cure. That's why she doesn't infect the roots, she thinks he will carry on her work and eventually reach the conclusion she did.
But when Yi tells her he is scared, but he learned to accept failure, she freaks out. She knows Yi is prepared to move on from New Kunlun, and ironically her infecting the roots pushes him to do it.
It’s because she didn’t have time to decrypt the roots in the normal ending. If you look in the room right before the fight where the root node is, you can see that in the normal route "root decryption process" is at 20%, while in the true route it’s at 80%, probably because you briefly visited the docks to say goodbye to Kuafu, Shennong and Shuanshuan.
All 2 of them.......
Cats
Why it’s so sad😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Instant dislike for calling normal ending "bad". Sure its anticlimatic and no one is truly happy, but still solarians still can be cured, eventually... maybe... hope stands.
How old are you? Seriously?
The reason why the ending is bad doesn’t have to do with the fate of the solarians at all. It has to do with the fact that yi never learned from his actions and never learned to accept his sins and his sisters view points.
@@greencat6490 it's true that Yi didn't grow there... but neither did he lose any chance to. In that ending, only time can tell whether he will eventually learn from his mistakes. (At very least, I'm sure he has a good reason to learn from Eigong's mistakes, which are pretty similar.) So it can be called normal/neutral ending.
@@greencat6490 ah yes being dead is surely better
I can't say it's a good ending either. Yi went to Penglai, as nothing was standing before him that could oppose him. He created another soulscape there, killing god knows how many 'apemen' to achieve his selfish ideas of immortality. Shuanshuan also seemed extremely quiet and obedient, as if he was taught to be oppressed alongside other serving apemen. Him being closer to him seemed like he was Yi's "favourite pet servant". The girl on seat also heavily resembles Heng, Yi's dead sister.
It's great that Taiwan created this, but I'm afraid that if Taiwan gets eaten by Communist Red China, the game will turn strange.
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(Actually I'm korean 😅)
Bruh, China is a capitalistic coutry. They have literal moneybag-capitalists owning factories, lands and exploiting workers for profit.
So don't be affraid. Nothing will change.
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