MAKING MUSIC ON AN APPLE IIe 1983 8 bit using DMS Drummer
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- long before the #apple #macintosh. Making a song on a apple ii by using the dms drummer against its intended purpose! uh oh. #8bit weapon
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Oopz about holding the floppy. Spending more time working out what to say I wasn’t looking where me fingerz were :0.
Ahah ! :) So much comments about they way you handle your stuff under your videos.
I always expect to find some while I watch you working.
It does not matter, it's your way of being and it's part of your "character";) Still amazing and inspiring "character", IMO.
Keep up Sam! Thanks for sharing.
Oh you kids just don't know any better ;) We know the truth! Just playing, great vid as always
Ive seen people bend these floppies and put them in their backpocket, and they still works so they arent as fragile to physical abuse as some people state... ;)
Like something from Max Headroom!
@ people love to get upperty about things its fine :)
This brings back memories of using arrays of bytes in 6502 assembly language to play Beethoven's 9th on my Apple II Plus in 1981. My mom would read the notes from the musical score and I would use a lookup table I had made to come up with frequency and duration values, then type them in. The result when played was the melody as a square wave output on the speaker. Fun times!
That's awesome!
This is amazing!! It’s a great tune too!!!! 🙌🕺❤️
That was brilliant. Half drum machine, half nuclear launch device.
You ever seen lost ;)?
“Would you like to play a game?”
"I absolutely LOVE how yellow this one is..."
*8bitguy cringes internally*
My BBC Micro is mustard colour,and i like it that way.
- Things you can say about old computers but not about Asians
IMLX H hah yes
@R. M I'm still using my ST! The plastic hasn't changed colour much on mine (or at least it's stayed a nice colour).
Indulge in the decay
That second song was genuinely beautiful. Better than anything i have made even on fruity loops
The Apple II in combination with the GameBoys ... WHOOOOAAAA!!! 👾👾👾👾
i recon so!!! next vid fo sho
i never thought i will see you in here @DonLaki
The world is so small
I'm okay with this.
Look mum, old computers!
I hate to admit I’m old enough to know but these were always that color. It hasn’t yellowed. It’s exactly the color I remember them being when I was in first grade.
when i went to a computer show in those days (1983) i remember that Apple's was the only one that really impressed me (i was 13old)
That's not true.
Yep. Pretty much, maybe a bit but really this was the color
@@jamesforest5245 this was the color before the platinum apple ii's
We had half a dozen that colour at work and about eight of the silver ITT clones (just about the only time Apple ever authorized clones). A few had Z80 cards for running CP/M.
Dude there’s a lot of musicians that simply wouldn’t exist if they had to make music back when the Apple II came out. You sir, would have a freaking field day and make more music than ever.
Establish rules so that you can break them and say "So what! It's my channel."
pretty muych. ohwell haha
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER Just need a spin off called Look Mum Old Computer
what are rules, really, if not something to break? hehe
just quickly switch two letters in your channel: LOOK MUM ON COMPUTER!
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER yeah haha, I don't think this is what you meant when you said "no computer" hahaha
I'm absolutely blown away at the second song you made. damn
MUM! Sam is naughty again and is playing with a Computer!
...ha, ha really good ^_*
Next video: Making music on a Fairlight CMI
LOOK!!!
Sam : no mum do not believe it! It's not a computer, it's a Mac. not the same !
@@yrelless7483 it's not a Mac, it's an Apple II :-P
Mmmm, I can smell that X2 cap from here.
When my BBC Micro blew its filter cap I had to leave it in the shed for about a month before the case stopped stinking enough to bring back into the house.
There was a definite risk that the Vic20 and the ZX81 already living in the shed, were going to _overpower_ it.
Sorry, I couldn't resist that.
Username checks out
Nice work dude, & ditto to 8bit weapon. I had the first apple II from 1977. A lot of people don't know this but the original was rushed into production with a serious design flaw: it had no vents in that thick plastic enclosure. Jobs wanted it to be completely quiet & since there was no fans, this caused it to heat up like an oven & the power supplies all failed. Mine was replaced under warranty (they replaced the PS, not the enclosure). After that I only ran it with the top cover off, with no problems ever again. Later in '77 they figure out that they needed the cooling vents which were added to all machines after that. But, if you put that double disk drive unit on top it still partially blocks the vents & cooling. Run it w/o the top cover & it will be fine.
Holy shit! The sound is way better than I expected!! It's so hard to tell that I'm listening to only one sound at a time!!!!
Loved the second tune the most... Great mad cap creative fun mate
Fucking gnarly. I’d love a sample of each of the drum sound. Sample pack for us so we can use that kick sample and those Cymbals and hats
agree!!! Pls sample packs of all old gnarly nasty sound samples ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😮😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I dont want a TR808 anymore. I want a AppleII. Sounds dope! Great Job!
Wow! Never thought Apple 2e could make such a big sound.
I had no idea an Apple IIe could make sounds like that...I'd never heard more than beeps out of these things.
This is insane..... I grew up using one of these exact machines and when you put in that into disk at the beginning that whole sound just took me back...
I loved the old Apple II and Macintosh tutorial apps. I was sad when they stopped including them with new computers.
The track at 15mins is bloody epic for a 8 bit track.
That's so fricking cool...I did not think a //e could even do music samples.. great job
i've started studying circuitry recently and i really appreciate the little in-depth part on capacitor construction and function in real life applications, wasn't making much sense to me until now
If you ever done much car stereo stuff big power anyway, capacitors or caps as we used to call them were used to lighten the sudden draw from the cars battery and eventually the alternator. Makes it so your headlights don't dim slightly when a sudden low bass note hits. And saves you from having your alternator die as quick
Oh that reverb at the end!!! Genious! As always!
Ingenious, creativity at it's finest. Love your content!
The pattern and sequencer is surprisingly intuitive and it sounds cool too. Great video as always.
macintosh plus would be proud of this
She probably watches him
Less is more, pretty good work with such limitations. I started making beats on an amiga at the start of the 90's using software called protracker and which had 4 tracks and could sample, pretty nice sounding, and could do bit reduction for extra tonal effect. Thats light years ahead of the apple 2 so I was pretty impressed with what you achieved here. There is a lot to be said for limitations, the less you have the more you push yourself for creativity.
You should make a series on your channel called Look mum a computer
this is it hahahaha
"Hey kid, I'm a computer" (if you haven't seen those old GI Joe PSA's you need to watch them immediately lol)
@YaKefir look mom now computer
Spend much longer on that and it’ll be, look computer, no mum. (Sorry)
@@derekflow STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADING
14:27 "Risk I'm Willing to Take", is an outrageous Step of Dub!
Great Job!
I love this video because this guy actually did something useful and interesting with the computer rather than just talk about the hardware components or run a lame demo that came with the computer. Computers are interesting when they actually do something, not when you just sit there and look at the hardware. And SONG2 was really good.
I absolutely love this channel. Keep on making amazing tunes with loads of solder.
Oh man. I didn't think those machines were capable of producing lo-fi synth sounds...
I wish I found this out when I was younger...
So blippy.... I love it.
Jeah the second track is nuts cant believe he did that with only playing one note at a time lol also with such an old machine only using a drum making software damn.
it's better than a lot of the modular demos I've heard...lol...and quite tuneful.
I always found it quite amazing on what people could get the Apple II to do.
That's really kewl LMNC, I really like how it sounds on my headphones. Its unique how music can be made on old piece of ancient computer matieral. Goes to show Music can be made with ANYTHING! Can't wait to see the video of you and Dr.Mix!
I've just gained a new level of respect for those old computers ... and you ofcourse! :)
Hey Sam! You need to try and get hold of a Greengate DS:3. It was a complete sampling system for the Apple ][/e. Really rare these days. Search for a track by Mainframe called 5 Minutes. It was pretty much created entirely on it... Loving the vintage computer stuff.
Great song that is by the way!
th-cam.com/video/A0WGlMOZVIM/w-d-xo.html damn that's a very good song!
Man that thing brings back great memories, and it's aged nicely ;-)
Nice video. Love it. Grew up on these computers. Have a ii/c and still drag it out from time to time.
I love your videos! You're doing the stuff I wish I could!
That second tune at the end, seriously banging!
This is amazing :) really good music and it reminds me of a computer version of learning the basics of beatboxing (sounds in a pattern one at a time) once you practice humming and drumming with beatboxing you can do two or three sounds at once :) also the MPC style drumming at the end was fire!!!
That speaker output mod is pretty neat, surprised more people haven't done it, that'd be cool for streaming
I have to say, this is absolutely amazing.
i literally cannot image how you managed to do this... brilliant
Soooooo coooool....my first Computer ever was a Apple II+. When i was a kid i`ve got this from my dad on x-mas. This thing was so incredible expensive but soooo cool. :-)
I just realized how lucky I am to have lived in an age where computers on screen have gone from text on cathode tubes to AMAZING VR on your head, to Holographic concerts... the future is unthinkable and hope to die after we have become gods.
If it's faulty, you should take it to a Genius Bar and see what they say :P
Yeah! Ultimate chiptune minimalism! Who needs 4 channels when you have 1 channel!
That absolutely sounds like it belongs in a DOS PC game before soundcards were a thing!
I had to use an apple ii e until early 2000 to write term papers for school until my family could afford a new computer. It was always fun having to tell teachers i can't use times new Roman size 12 font.
Is the door to your cave a boulder?
Haha those funny disk things look like the save button
Haha ! Young boy, your comment instantly made me feeling soooooo old. It was like floor opening under my feet!
The same as "kids discovering VHS and trying to find out what it is" kind of YT video. WOW! :D
By the way, thanks for the trip.
Aaarr... Well, I think I'm between this two worlds. You win ;) In fact I'm just old enough to have used floppy disks when I was a youngster.
And oh, your were talking about papers and someone recently remind that my elementary school teacher printed our documents with a alcoholic blue ink (that smelled really good) with a Ronéo duplicator, an ancestor of the current printing techniques that is called "spirit duplicator". Probably the "oldest technique" with which I have a direct link. ;)
By the way, I am really impressed by the 8" Disks (they deserve a D because of the size! ;) )
Storytelling, again, my grandfather used to instal and maintain IBM punched-card computers. I liked that he tells me about these machines that occupied a whole room to perform calculations and stats, almost without visual interface. Crazy time, from our point of view.
I will take time to search about the other stuff you've mentioned. Thanks!
@@pyrumid5673 it was clearly a joke
@@r00kiet80 ahh, one of those relatively serious comments that states the obvious!
@@RWL2012 what do u mean the joke clearly wooshed over his head
Apple II was a great machine. Two apps stand out: VisiCalc (the first spreadsheet) and Castle Wolfenstein!!! I enjoyed both.
LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER: actually uses computer
me: wait. that's illegal
Brilliant stuff! Really like your channel.
Love to see your channel do well! You are so creative and handy with electronics!
Rad! I'm currently working on a track that uses CV drum, which is a drum machine for the Colecovision. The trick is using a VCR for the audio out, since getting audio out of a coax is something you can probably do but I can not. But, with my VCR, I connect the Colecovision to the VCR and then I use the RCA video out to go to a TV and the audio RCA out to go to my USB audio interface. Works like a charm! God, I used to play Oregon Trail on an Apple II back in grade school. Looking at it now makes me realize I grew up in the dark ages. How come the school I went to never had a music production tool for the Apple II? I would have loved that as a kid! Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade my memories of Oregon Trail for the world, but why couldn't we have both? It would have prepared me for eventually using LSDJ and Nanoloop, which also require you to be clever about balancing drums and melody as there are only 4 tracks---2 pulse wave channels, a wave channel, and a noise channel. But, as always, out of limitation comes creativity. Great vid, LMNC! Looking forward to part 2!
Love the video! Lovely tune you made Sam.
I love to see young people taking an interest in this old hardware that was brand new when I was in high school.
Great work as always, mate. Kinda was waiting for "Look, MUM, computer" again :)
I can't understand how you made it sound so good.
This make me wonder if this kind of music was actually made in the 80’s. Fantastic video, LOOK MUM YES COMPUTER
Just buy more of them, then run one with the drumbeat, and the others with tones.
Agreed. An 8x8 array of these machines should be plenty :)
@Walter B
Could be done
Apple ii has a 6502 cpu, which has a hardware overflow pin, which can be checked by assembly code.
I would require some hard and software mods though
This is way cool! I need to get this program for my IIe.
What you do is incredible keep it up
And I thought my hardware was old...
is this cubase's DAD?!
I bet Apple could have squeezed a short accutronics reverb tank in there ;)
Super sounds!
I thought that Apple II was a crappy computer with a crappy sound, but I was wrong. Nice video you crazy nuts!
Love it and it makes me want to go and find more old junk, especially a SpecDrum
Skootaman I had a Specdrum hanging out of the back of the interface port. Sounded great too!
Silver Fox so cool - like a budget Linn Drum. Can’t remember why mine needed intervention (it was broken from my brother who was olderr and earning, (and could break Mount Rushmore it he was asked to dust it!). My first ever solder job and at a time I got lent a fostex X15 AND a CX5M FM music computer. Ended up gigging along to the tape with a Korg Poly 800 (inverted keys) around my neck.
And yes, I had a mullet 😂🤣😂
Ok. So, junior year of H.S., I took computer science. We were trained to program on one of these PCs.
Never learned anything as complex as this on it.
Wild.
For a guy who’s channel is Look Mum No Computer he sure has a lot of computers and computer spare parts laying around :)
Another great episode Sam!
I can't believe I still flinch at careless floppy handling after all these decades! 😁
"Yellowed to perfection" That's the fucking spirit!
Yellowed to perfection like a banana :)
Fantastic vidéo !! I bought one like this in 1983 in Paris.
Awesome! Glad you managed to get the Apple working again!
Awesome,cant wait to see what you add to these tracks.Love the tunes you are creating on these vintage computers,amazing stuff
Rifa and Wima MP capacitors always go after 15-30 years (even new and unused ones) but i actually never heard of one causing fire. Replace with an X2 or Y2 class capacitor that is not of the MP paper dielectic type.
Their goal is to filter out radio interference. Computer equipment has a lot of stuff inside that cause all kinds of horrible buzzing and roaring noises on the radio, these capacitors counter that.
I like the half-speed song quite a bit. Nicely done.
The limitations kind of remind me of Korg DS-10. It doesn't have nearly as many limitations as this, of course, and it's a great piece of software. I brought it with me when I went to the beach for a week of vacation and spent a lot of time just making songs with my DS. It was a hell of a lot of fun. You're limited by the number of instruments and patterns, but I found tricks to make it more usable. Doubling or halving the tempo was quite useful, and although the "drum" portion of it isn't as full-featured as the two main MS-10 tracks, you can be creative and manipulate it in ways to utilize it as a third instrument in addition to rhythm.
In a way, I like these kinds of limitations as it really forces you to think creatively about how to use it.
Edit: If anyone is actually interested in listening to it, here are the 3 tracks I made on vacation. Everything is straight from the DS, except for the audio fade out in one of the songs. Kinda limited with only 16 patterns, so they do get repetitive, but I still like them. Link: soundcloud.com/rarson/sets/ds-10-tracks
Took me a second for a "wait a minute" moment. But, oh well, it's still interesting.
Sam since I haven’t said it lately, thank you for the quality you add to our lives. I love what you do and the positivity that you do it with.
Incredible, when one knows that the only instruction to do sound on the Apple II is LDA $C030, which applies a little spike to the speaker (or LDA $C020 for the cassette port).
Man... You're like way beyond me... Honestly, you're back to the future 2 in 2015 and I'm in 1955.
I'm actually enjoying these LOOK MUM AN OLD COMPUTER videos :D
3:43 - I imagine some would cringe at the thought of old plastics getting cut but I think it's nice to see the old machine get hacked upon, as it should be.
this device has a special place in my heart
I had no idea an Apply ][e could sound this good without a soundcard. Still, I'd highly recommend looking into picking up a Mockinboard. More voices, higher quality sound.
imagine hearing these tunes an a massive rig! OMG
I can see why his mom took his computer away. A parenting move that only fueled his fire.
puff of smoke is visible @ 5:17 "I love the smell of burning capacitors"
((hmm: spikes)) 10:29 "no worries I have another one."
That's the first computer I ever touched back in 5th grade . If we finished our math tests early we got to play "OH Dear" on the 2e!
a love you style!!!! this amazing, this is crazy
Looks surprisingly clean inside
Oh man, I love this sound. I'm gonna put my faithful Apple //c to work...
It reminds me when I modded my Coco the same kind of way hooking into a Gakken 200 in 1 electronics kit for amplification and signal distortion. That was in 1987.
Nice jams bro! Very good use of that old apple computer ;)
I hear nice sounds of the early FRONT 242! Good job!