Seconded! I was so surprised by the sharpness when I got my first shots back taken with the SMC 105. I'm sure the older ones are great as well, but I haven't tried them. I think my favorite Pentax 67 lens is the 45mm though.
@@ribsy That last 105mm made by Pentax was exactly the same as the first one from 1967, except that it got an external appearance change to more modern system styling and a couple of improvements to the lens coatings as that technology improved over 40 years. As far as I know, Pentax almost never did a running improvement to the optical design of a current lens. Rather, they would bring out a new replacement lens, such as the 165mm 2.8 replacing the discontinued 150mm 2.8. The exception I know was in 1986, when the 300mm 4.0 got a name change and a very slight optical modification.
@@randallstewart175 Thanks for sharing your insight! Some say coating makes a difference (to contrast for example), but I am not an expert. I have just discovered this great camera and lens and am just learning photography.
Thanks for your awesome videos! I just picked up a late model 105 f/2.4 and tested it quickly (via the Pentax 67 to 645 adapter) on my 645Z digital body. Holy Nirvana!! What a drop dead gorgeous lens, razor sharp even wide open and phenomenal bokeh, even by Pentax’s high standards. It was tricky at first because I instinctively reached for the adapter to change aperture but am getting used to having to cheat forward. It was great in manual mode on the 645Z, and for Aperture priority (Av mode), I customized the front dial to set ISO and the green button to get me into Auto-ISO mode, and that works great for me. Cheers and Happy Holidays 🎄
A great video and great photos, subscribed! Just recently found this great film camera! Pentax 6x7 is a beast and that vintage Takumar Super-Multi-Coated 105 f2.4 lens is God tier.
It's funny because I've never heard anyone compare this lens to a "4x5 look" until today and now I've seen two people say it. This comment honestly has me wondering if people that say this have actually shot large format. What exactly is a "4x5 look" ??? haha
I tried out the 105mm on my video and didn't miss focus with it. I have the 90mm LS now and I've missed focus on it once terribly, but yea overall it's not too bad to focus with. I want to get the SMC 90mm 2.8 though cause it's the smallest, lightest, and I think has the closest focus distance of the P67 lenses in the lineup. Also, the 90mm 2.8 SMC is cheaper than the Takumar 105 and they both look good from what I've seen. Dope to see you got yours back kicking at 100%!
@@ribsy Just got it now, one thing I did notice is that it doesn’t quite focus at infinity it’s like a minute fraction of a hair out, does yours absolutely focus at the infinity hard stop? Maybe I need my focus screen adjusting.
Hard to not want to grab this set up. I've been planning to for a while, but want them finances to be all comfy haha. Great video and great images/prints!
Great lens! I suspect that a relatively simple design (6 elements in 5 groups without, I think, any fancy aspherical elements) and a 9 blade aperture help with that lovely bokeh. Would be interesting to do some bokeh tests at a range of f-stops and and lens to subject distances to get a good idea of what it can do. The foreground blur is also worth looking for - I have found it to be different in character sometimes to the background blur. If you don't like its look you can compose differently. Great work! keep it up.
I honestly think the 150 2.8 is far better for portraits. Check out Bryan Birks lens comparison video. It’s a cheaper lens too, the results are a bit more dramatic and surreal
About F/2.4 I agree with you. I think people blow their load over bokeh way too much. In the real world you shoot someone at f2.4 and only the eye is in focus and everything else is a blur, it's not exactly the most flattering portrait look but at least the bokeh balls look amazing! ha!
You prefer Super Takumar version over the SMC versions? Curious if there’s a comparison of the different versions of this lens, don’t think I’ve ever used a pre-SMC lens.
Namaste Sandeep, i just found that the earlier lens had a really interesting bokeh on the S1a i used to shoot some gum leaves (Eucalyptus) it was a mono film, it could have been kentmere 100 or xx cant be sure i have so much film atm 😉
Taking me a bit to learn about the “bokeh crutch”. Haha Feel like I’m just now wanting to stop down a bit and get some deets in the background other than just a big soft blur.
yea for real! i find with this lens specifically i default to wide open, which i shouldn't. with the 75, i care way less, usually because i am using it specifically to get more background in my image. its def good to mix it up
With 6X7 you can have nice bokeh even @f8 with a "normal" focal lengh, it´s not mandatory to use f2.4 :D in fact even with a wide like the Mamiya 50mm f4.5 you can get a lot of "out of focus" areas ;)
For your health dont point the rear element near your eyes... that version have super radiated element in the rear. Your skin its okay.. but eye is different. I have the same lens and I am always careful
The 165 f/2.8 is an option but I don't use it much. For a portrait lens there are plenty of modern options that can give similar extreme bokeh. And if you're a pixel peeper the 165 gets a bit funkier than the 105. The 55 f/4 is great, almost to modern lens standards. It's a bit boring but if you're doing landscapes it can't be beat, even by Hasselblad's 50mm.
Thanks, now an already way overpriced lens and system will be even more overpriced. Ever time one of you "influencers" talk about one of these older lenses the price jump yet again.
Oh shoosh...this is a mechanical medium format camera. If you were to compare its quality in digital it would be a fuji gfx50s for $7k plus with a comparable lens. Quality film cameras have been horribly underpriced since the mid-2000's when most people didn't want theirs anymore, and now that they've (quite rightly) come back into popularity, people want to be able to still pick up fantastic cameras & pin sharp lenses for a few hundred bucks, and whinge when they're more in line with where they should be. You had your chance & supply and demand is a concept you clearly haven't heard of. And so what if influencers are driving prices up? If you really wanted one, you'd have bought one by now.
I have the “SMC” version. My favorite aspect of this lens isn’t the bokeh, it’s the insane sharpness and contrast! :)
Seconded! I was so surprised by the sharpness when I got my first shots back taken with the SMC 105. I'm sure the older ones are great as well, but I haven't tried them. I think my favorite Pentax 67 lens is the 45mm though.
yea there is a reason the SMC is so pricey!
even the old one is fairly sharp
@@ribsy That last 105mm made by Pentax was exactly the same as the first one from 1967, except that it got an external appearance change to more modern system styling and a couple of improvements to the lens coatings as that technology improved over 40 years. As far as I know, Pentax almost never did a running improvement to the optical design of a current lens. Rather, they would bring out a new replacement lens, such as the 165mm 2.8 replacing the discontinued 150mm 2.8. The exception I know was in 1986, when the 300mm 4.0 got a name change and a very slight optical modification.
@@randallstewart175 Thanks for sharing your insight! Some say coating makes a difference (to contrast for example), but I am not an expert. I have just discovered this great camera and lens and am just learning photography.
Thanks for your awesome videos! I just picked up a late model 105 f/2.4 and tested it quickly (via the Pentax 67 to 645 adapter) on my 645Z digital body. Holy Nirvana!! What a drop dead gorgeous lens, razor sharp even wide open and phenomenal bokeh, even by Pentax’s high standards. It was tricky at first because I instinctively reached for the adapter to change aperture but am getting used to having to cheat forward. It was great in manual mode on the 645Z, and for Aperture priority (Av mode), I customized the front dial to set ISO and the green button to get me into Auto-ISO mode, and that works great for me. Cheers and Happy Holidays 🎄
yea the lens is great. truly exceptional
Mouth watering lens and beautiful images.
Yea it really is!
A great video and great photos, subscribed! Just recently found this great film camera! Pentax 6x7 is a beast and that vintage Takumar Super-Multi-Coated 105 f2.4 lens is God tier.
Yea it is! All around great package
Probably one of the best lens/camera combinations in medium format with a borderline 4x5 look :)
yea for real!
It's funny because I've never heard anyone compare this lens to a "4x5 look" until today and now I've seen two people say it. This comment honestly has me wondering if people that say this have actually shot large format. What exactly is a "4x5 look" ??? haha
I tried out the 105mm on my video and didn't miss focus with it. I have the 90mm LS now and I've missed focus on it once terribly, but yea overall it's not too bad to focus with. I want to get the SMC 90mm 2.8 though cause it's the smallest, lightest, and I think has the closest focus distance of the P67 lenses in the lineup. Also, the 90mm 2.8 SMC is cheaper than the Takumar 105 and they both look good from what I've seen. Dope to see you got yours back kicking at 100%!
good call on the 90. seems like its a better all round that the 105. yea man -- happy my cam is in 100% working order
Hill farmstead!! I love that place/their beer. Love your work too thanks for inspiring me to start printing
For sure! Enkoy
Great video as usual. Just ordered one from Japan, looking forward to receiving the Bokeh god!
enjoy! its a great lens
@@ribsy Just got it now, one thing I did notice is that it doesn’t quite focus at infinity it’s like a minute fraction of a hair out, does yours absolutely focus at the infinity hard stop? Maybe I need my focus screen adjusting.
I can recommend using a 6x7 adapter to m42 . 105mm on 35mm is ideal for head and shoulders portraits.
Interesting. Never considered using that
Oh man, I bought one a couple of years ago, beat up barrel, clean glass, for 200. The prices of these things keep going up.
Yea! These lenses are tanks
Hard to not want to grab this set up. I've been planning to for a while, but want them finances to be all comfy haha. Great video and great images/prints!
Haha make sure it’s the right time. No rush 😅
A fun camera system to use.
Definitely is!
I just got mine and I can't wait to have on my hands...
Nice! Congrats
@@ribsy I will let you know brother! Also I will like to make some question...
Great lens! I suspect that a relatively simple design (6 elements in 5 groups without, I think, any fancy aspherical elements) and a 9 blade aperture help with that lovely bokeh. Would be interesting to do some bokeh tests at a range of f-stops and and lens to subject distances to get a good idea of what it can do. The foreground blur is also worth looking for - I have found it to be different in character sometimes to the background blur. If you don't like its look you can compose differently. Great work! keep it up.
Yea I’m curious about the bokeh comparisons
Lovely lens! :)
Have a good week!
thanks 😊
I honestly think the 150 2.8 is far better for portraits. Check out Bryan Birks lens comparison video. It’s a cheaper lens too, the results are a bit more dramatic and surreal
The 150 is vastly underrated for sure. I’m not quite sure it has that POP but it’s definitely much cheaper. Great for headshots too.
good call - i need to check it out
sounds like a winner, especially on price
Doesnt look so amazing. Maciej Leśniak was doing great photos with this combo.
👍🏽
reppin the hill farmstead!
Haha word 💪🏽
About F/2.4 I agree with you. I think people blow their load over bokeh way too much. In the real world you shoot someone at f2.4 and only the eye is in focus and everything else is a blur, it's not exactly the most flattering portrait look but at least the bokeh balls look amazing! ha!
Lol yea bokeh can be too easy sometimes
Stop, inhale, click, exhale.... move, repeat.....
hahaha yea. keep it still
I love all super takuma lenses even in 35mm they have an awesome look about them.
Oh interesting. I’ve never used one of the other ones
You prefer Super Takumar version over the SMC versions? Curious if there’s a comparison of the different versions of this lens, don’t think I’ve ever used a pre-SMC lens.
Namaste Sandeep, i just found that the earlier lens had a really interesting bokeh on the S1a i used to shoot some gum leaves (Eucalyptus) it was a mono film, it could have been kentmere 100 or xx cant be sure i have so much film atm 😉
Nice one Ribsy. This lens makes me want to add a Pentax to my collection, but I'm in the Bronica SQ-A gang.
Literally same. SQ-A gang rise up!
@@brendanro it's got to be the most overlooked system out there - which makes it cheap!
haha im bronica etrs gang
SQA is legit too!
the entire bronica system is underrated
Beast mode!
haha word! its a good one
Taking me a bit to learn about the “bokeh crutch”. Haha Feel like I’m just now wanting to stop down a bit and get some deets in the background other than just a big soft blur.
yea for real! i find with this lens specifically i default to wide open, which i shouldn't. with the 75, i care way less, usually because i am using it specifically to get more background in my image. its def good to mix it up
You ever been to Hill Farmstead Brewery? Delicious beer!
Yup been a couple of times, that’s where I got the shirt 😄
That’s way cheaper than I thought it was. Damn. So cheap for one of the legends of vintage glass.
yea its surprising "affordable" haha -- i guess its all relative
Okay bro I will never sell mine lol. Thanks for sharing
hahaha don't do it!
With 6X7 you can have nice bokeh even @f8 with a "normal" focal lengh, it´s not mandatory to use f2.4 :D in fact even with a wide like the Mamiya 50mm f4.5 you can get a lot of "out of focus" areas ;)
yea you def can. but sometimes you really wanna shoot at 2.4
For your health dont point the rear element near your eyes... that version have super radiated element in the rear. Your skin its okay.. but eye is different. I have the same lens and I am always careful
thanks for the tip!
The 165 f/2.8 is an option but I don't use it much. For a portrait lens there are plenty of modern options that can give similar extreme bokeh. And if you're a pixel peeper the 165 gets a bit funkier than the 105. The 55 f/4 is great, almost to modern lens standards. It's a bit boring but if you're doing landscapes it can't be beat, even by Hasselblad's 50mm.
interesting. wasn't aware of that lens
the radioactive lens makes me pause tho..
Haha I feel you
Question, my aperture ring is a little stiff when opening up to 2.4, is that the same with yours or is that an issue with the lens?
Hmmm I don’t think that’s normal. Mine flowed fine
Hi could you use the 105mm f2.4 for sports like kit surfing thanks .
It’s not really a telephoto lens ... if that’s what you mean
@@ribsy Ok thanks
We need a "bokeh" counter in this video
LOL next time
would that fir on A mamiya rz67?
i doubt it
Your lens is an older model and might be thorium infused so don't put it near your eye as it's not protected from Alpha particles I believe
thanks for the tip!
Will this lens work on a nikon f5?
No idea
Thanks, now an already way overpriced lens and system will be even more overpriced. Ever time one of you "influencers" talk about one of these older lenses the price jump yet again.
Still cheaper than a Leica 😃
Oh shoosh...this is a mechanical medium format camera. If you were to compare its quality in digital it would be a fuji gfx50s for $7k plus with a comparable lens. Quality film cameras have been horribly underpriced since the mid-2000's when most people didn't want theirs anymore, and now that they've (quite rightly) come back into popularity, people want to be able to still pick up fantastic cameras & pin sharp lenses for a few hundred bucks, and whinge when they're more in line with where they should be. You had your chance & supply and demand is a concept you clearly haven't heard of. And so what if influencers are driving prices up? If you really wanted one, you'd have bought one by now.
Great video strictly 📠.
Thanks for watching