How KR Challengers Use Reworked Skarner
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Even after the hotfix, top skarner is still being used well.
We don't really have any mana issues with the build in the video
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Hey, i have found that you can use stride breaker and other tiamat actives while on ult kidnap, this is very useful with stridebreaker specifically, to gain a *slight* boost to movement speed while ulting to get kidnaped champions closer to your team or tower
Hollup... Let him cook
nah this is garbo. too many wasted stats on stride. much better things to get. if you really want a slow get gauntlet.
@@zelcadin when did the OP said they wanted a slow? go back to kindergarden. your readin' skills are just NOT it. the OP talked about the movement boost from stridebreaker, never mentioned any slow.
@@bharatcarballo5144 Tankiness is still the top priority, the health from stride is not enough, better for fun only but not a optimum build
@@kentQQ123 Not everyone needs to build optimal built to have fun
K'sarner
Ahahah that was good
The K stands for kidnap
Aint no way they just gave rework job to ksante and smolder guy💀☠️
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this level of disruption and poke could easily make its way to the support role. a great kit for peeling and engaging into 2v2 situations
Alistar vibes
Agreed I tried him as sup and it felt quite powerful, ended up doing the most damage on the team too lmao
Was thinking the same, I recently started using k Sante as supp feels really good
He's pretty good Support! The Tank support item (idk the shield one lol) helps him a lot with, shocker, tanking and CC
My man you are insane. You are the guy everyone copies and uploads the trends from. So much detail into a new "concept" or champion is each time.
I mean, Skarner top kidnapping you under tower was indeed one of his characteristics, I'm glad that he has different combos to do that now, it gives more room to express skill imo
I was waiting for this! Love from BR S2
Very nice video. I was a big Skarner top player before the rework and I've been waiting until the new champ banning settles down to play him.
It's great seeing all this kidnapping tech, nice to see it's still possible.
10:32 first time seeing Skarner ulti grab the enemy’s model THIS smoothly.
tower champion spotlight goes hard
Kinda figured this would happen when I saw his potato clear speed and low mana costs
he does 3:09 no leash 1 smite, tf do u mean potato clear speed
@santumi2298 that is absolutely not what I got, granted I did mine before the hotfix and also have no clue what the hotfix was lol
@@d1mensi0n70currently the hotfix was mostly mana nerfs, but also increased his base AD ratio on Q. The key to clearing with Skarner is to use the E through walls and leaving the camps when they hit like 120 HP. Your passive + pet can burn easily finishes off camps before they reset. I’ve gotten 3:12 with practice, but I am still figuring optimal HP amounts.
League in 2013: "we want you to strategize and come up with any working scenario for ur team. choose any champion in any lane and make it work
League in 2024: no fun allowed
That W hitbox is actually illegal. Very interactive gameplay.
looks hella strong, literally what sion wishes he could be
So basicly you never wanna even step close to their sweetspot at before tower, just like with gragas or else you just gonna get bomba'd into tower every single time. Seems like fun and intuitive gameplay to me...
just a small detail to add. you don't need to q again in the Q e auto W Q E combo. if you are holding a rock still then it will be thrown away automatically when you ult in the direction of your ult
I actually needed this gangy
loldobby the goat
Can't wait to see Skarner support.
Oh trust me im already working on it since it was one of my fav pics pre rework
@@grapeman807 Go for it king, as the ones who invented, Pantheon Supp, Camille Supp, now you'll make Skarner Supp something viable.
I wonder if experimental hexplate would be good. Extra movement speed after using ult and more ult cd
it plays just like the old skarner, and surprisingly I also played it before the video)
skarner is like poppy but you can also drag them while stunned
You ever wake up in NA and think you still have an imagination, and then you watch a Korean gameplay video and realize you're a literal potato brain?
Yeah, same.
I mean tbf any new champ that comes out they just pick comet and play them poke until the meta is established
@@psyduckfart lol yeah, I'm mainly referring to the plays made in the video. Lots of things I didn't consider as jungle Skarner, too.
Mainly the ult over the wall at Baron/Dragon pit.
came to the comments to say something similar smh
Same here gangy
Idk I thought these were very obvious other than the E hitbox. I'm not particularly great and multiple friends independently found some of these tricks as well (namely the R positioning).
Comet became a thing for me because I hated vayne matchup but wanted to ban mordekaiser
Man I'm just scared of this new skarner, imagine 5min getting doved mid by skarner 3 times under turret is just insane ( and he's live after taking 3 turret shot ) :(
9:55 most satisfying moment...😩👌
I wish you made more videos directed at jungle, love your videos though!
a cool part of skarner ult is his orientation gets locked so it matters a lot how you angle it
Any chance you can find a ryze player to make a video on I love your videos and would love a updated video even tho the old one still holds up
3:13
Skarner: Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru.
Gnar: Nani!?
Did most of these though for the Arcane never thought of it lol pretty neat something to use against ranged top champs
This looks like Ksante 2.0 with going behind and ulting to a turret
this was always the plan of top lane skarner to kidnap people under turret and cc them for life (e > ult > auto > e > auto with enough cdr) but now you have disgusting lane harass, escape through walls, have a way longer threat range and can kidnap pre 6 wtf
Kennen sucks at his job for like 5 seasons😂
Gankplank is also one of the biggest counters if he gets ahead unless you have a jungler
Too bad they just hot fixed Skarner to nerf him out of top lane. They only want him to be played in jungle. Which is dumb because this is no worse than Tahm or ka'sante using your own tower for kills.
lol all they did was nerf the mana cost on W and you dont even feel it with manaflow and biscuits and when u go back for ur 1st buy getting a tear just completely negates ur mana issues. pls know what ur talking about 1st before posting.
Even after the hotfix, top skarner is still being used well.
We don't really have any mana issues with the build in the video
But this type of un interactive and minimal counter play, play style
is just not fun to play against so I thinks it’s better if they balance it twords
jng
It's a necessary nerf. W spam with comet is very toxic and uninteractive to play against. 46% winrate for a new champion is too much. But he's still viable on top lane, so that's not too big of a deal.
I'd even argue that as long as his W works the same way as it is now, he'll always be viable on top lane.
Th w spam max is jsut lame
Hilarious how Olaf is a counter for every single champ and strat at the end of the video xD
I swear to god that R locking champions into specific vicinity of the champ look so goddang weird. He looks like hes doing a simba thing when he just shove enemy into his own tower. Wtf bro i prefer old skarner top kidnaps. That baron pit kidnap is so illegal btw.
It really brings back memories when i first learned how to play old Skarner kidnap top from this channel too.
Tower champion spotlight, it's looks like Rell top, probably a lot better since he actually has damage and waveclear, but he will be melted come lategame.
that ult behind baron is crazy
I play Skarner for fun, these combos will surely help me make the opponents suffer.
I love how skarner can instantly punish these top laners/top lane champions that have been able to be so overly aggressive for so long. If the wave is dying under turret, and you're a renekton or riven, you shouldn't be able to just stand there, full combo under turret, and walk away like nothing happened. Skarner + Ksante , and hopefully more champions can be added/reworked to re-educate these reckless players.
New Skarner really said "GET OVER HERE!!" 😂
The kidnapping is actually insane.
thanks, love your videos Dobby
thank god we have another loldobby video on gragas v2 cant wait to face skarner top now 😍😍😍
Nice to have a group kidnap again. I miss the Zac kidnap ult.
I knew tank runes weren't meant for him now gotta wait for some shojin tech
He makes really good use of almost every keystone in the game in one way or another. Tank Skarner bulid-wise works kinda like Malphite - you take Comet in some matchups (ranged champs, strong early game threats etc.) and Grasp in others.
Your E takes priority of Lee Q recast. Actually your E takes prio over most of abilities. :)
meanwhile riot removing ksante slow on ulted Q for balance.
Now you can't get kidnapped alone... He takes your teammates with you
I’ve been running HoB and building eclipse
It’s pretty good
Hi dobby thx for the video ^^
If i was a skarner main i think I'd hate this rework ^^
algorithm comment, ty dobby
Some people see the word nerf and instantly think a champion is ruined.
Scarner looks like a menance now , fearful and majestic with that tripke steal your oponents is a game changer ,
Well done making this video glad to see the og champions are getting a fresh air , keep up the good work ~
Cant wait for a Skarner one trick to get turbo fed then clean up an already winning fight against Showmaker and be nerfed into the ground forever
0:36 - I would have immediately quit and uninstalled. That interaction is funny as hell.
What happens when you grab someone with skarner's ult and then use kalista's ult to pull skarner?
I didn't notice how massive W's range is lol
So with Ksante they didn’t like how he had “0 counter play “ combos and kills you under tower and he’s been going through a great number of changes and reworks. So now…they rework Skarner so he has “0 counter play “ combos and can not only kill you under tower but can drag you under it from a decent distance away. How is this improvement in Champ design again?
Half that plays only work because people still haven´t figured out that skarner E gets canceled by EVERYTHING. The renekton E-R tower kindnap for example. If he used W before E, he´d automatically autoattack Skarner right after skarner catches him with E and interrupt the charge. Same with Udyr E and all other abilities functioning like that. Even Vaynes can buffer E in a manner, that AFTER beeing already cought you´ll get knocked back and interrupted. Literally the most clunky ability in the entire game.
THIS LOOKS LIKE POPPY TOP WITH EXTRA STEPS
I've been experimenting with Titanic/Sundered/even eclipse in some easier matchups, the AD is nice and with ingenious making you infamously unkillable with Sundered+Eclipse, you can still fill the Frontline your team needs
Edit: Only just now, scrolling through these comments, did I find out tiamat actives work in ult, but I don't think that includes Titanic because it is an auto reset. Maybe swap that for stride?
That E into wall stun duration is way too long, considering he can chain his ult
it's so agressive and funny the champions voice on kr server lol
skarner reksai top 100% pick/ban presence at MSI
Skarner is disabled for MSI
Reksai already got her healing halved on minions on live. So yeah no
Hail of blades is also fun to use with Q
He plays a lot like Tahm, but with more aoe and less single target damage.
I wonder how this plays vs camille
E doesn’t have priority on hookshot and ult has a long cast time she can kite with Q ms
Is this pre hotfix? Love your videos ♥
Battlecast looks clunky, I like it
Woah! :o
dont worry, they'll give skarner the akali treatment.
For refrence of what im talking about: Akali's q used to start behind her. This is a similiar situation with his e.
Would love if they stopped turning junglers into top laners
Looks like we have another K'Sante. You aren't allowed to touch half the lane without being under the enemy tower.
okay, kinda curious. That Brolaf's "Bro-hooo!" Sounded the same as his EN version, but he's on KR. IS that the same regardless of language? Awesome if so.
I miss old skarner
guys, skarner will destroy any mid squishie like gangplank, gragas,riven (if played well) fiora( same as riven) tanks is just a ez matchup if u build titanic hydra its the best item for any lane hitting a whole combo with that will make the enemy at least go to half hp
I hope to one day see a double kidnap duo botlane go to diamond. Like Skarner + Kench or K'sante or smt like that xd
The guy who reworked skarner is the same guy who built k'sante and smolder. All 3 can go over mountains.
remember when people hated ksante because he could kidnap u from half the lane?
itrs happening again
Skarner the kidnapper, damm
he looks really cool tho
Oh god. They made Poppy 2.
I'm looking at this, was confused as to why w max first, and then I realized it's range is enormous, why tf is his w range that long? It should be like his twice his old q range at most
According to wiki it's 700 range, that's a Cait auto
Lol, this type of style is basically the same as tahm and k'sanate that just cheese you to the tower like that 😂
So he's basically gragas ulting you into tower
No mention of Skarner ult giving him unstoppable, so you can use it as a counter-engage?
meanwhile skarner on my team was 0/5 and left the game in solo q
No way the e kidnapping people behind skarner is going to stay, that is getting changed next patch for sure
Skarner is how you make a skill expressive tank. Fun combos with obvious downtime to trade back.
Ksante when he goes all out is just like turning into Yone mashing buttons
This video is just basically flash montage
Sorry but the music distracted me too much from the vid I was vibing
Skarner Rugal Bernstein! 😊
Make a vid about grasp azir
great
1:16 for build
2:50 like he flashes behind him or what ? how did he get behind him
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ya Now we can use Skarner to deliver Annie to jax