Hey Isaiah and John, great podcast, very informative as always. I have a question about my current situation : i am 5'11 with a 7'9 standing reach and can grab a 10 foot rim, putting me at around 27 inches of vert. I'm a bodybuilder, but have only started vert training about a month ago. I would say my vert has increased by an inch from my starting point, so I had about 26 untrained. I've only ever practiced on 10 foot dunks so I paid attention to my jump technique, but could not evaluate it while ACTUALLY trying to dunk (so with the ball) I recently moved and am now able to train in a gym with a 9'3 hoop. I was delighted at the thought of finally being able to train dunking and have way more fun training but... i can't dunk on 9'3 ??? I just don't get it. Dribble, lob, backboard, oop, I just can NOT jump anywhere near my max vert, which should be enough ! I find myself very uncoordinated and i just can not replicate my regular jump technique. I guess aiming for the rim on 10' makes me jump higher, and maybe the ball makes me lose focus. Actually i did dunk it once, but it was of standing vert... Anyway this is all very frustrating to me.... If you have any tips i'd love them !
Get consistent with standing dunks, then add a step, and get consistent. Repeat. Work on one queue at a time and things can take time but make sure to reflect and look back at the progress
So many variables...yet i still dont see much talk about arm size, weight or speed. Im starting to look in to the shoe and traction as major factors. Standing jump should be the best standard for measuring aspects of arm swing and leg power. Once you add in forward momentum, its a total game changer as to what is being utilized to tranfer that energy into vertical motion. I still say you guys should try ankle and arm weights to get a delta on the outcome.
I agree. I believe that arm swing has been underutilized by most jump training. After all, it alone contributes to at least 10% of an athlete’s vertical.
@troliskimosko that's just the thing, you say 10% I say 40%...try max jumping with no arm swing at all. Then try jumping max this 1lb arm weights. Then try adding stiff leg forward momentum ( minimum knee bend ). Jumping over stuff like a skateboard Ollie is so different from a max vert jump. Other jumps as in long or what ever the Olympics jump is. Those Olympics jumpers don't even care about landing, just getting their body over a stick. Dunking is a jump of a different class, most of the focus needs to include the ball. For us 5'6" inch peeps, adding the ball kills a straightforward technique. ( atleast it does for me ). I also noticed a heavy ball makes it easier. 🤔
@@subdynomanid estimate it to be more like 15-20% because you still get an arm swing on dribble dunks its just not as prominent. I know for myself i jump about 15% higher on lob approaches vs dribble approaches.
i have been jumping in slides with no traction outdoors for a year the slide has a whole in it and i can still fly 😂 shoes ain’t shit but slides ain’t it
@@subdynoman40%? I certainly jump lower without arm swing, but for example on a standing jump it adds only a few inches of vertical. On a running jump the problem is that the arms are required for balance as well, so most people couldn’t jump max effort without arm swing regardless of how hard they swing their arms. It’s like asking a cheetah to run without its tail.
If you assume that you’re producing the same outputs (meaning that you’ve only lost fat and aren’t fatigued from a lack of fuel) then there is a direct correlation to losing weight and gaining vert, as jump height and weight would be inversely proportional. Meaning if you weighed 180 lbs and your vertical is 30”, and then you lost 20 lbs of non functional mass, then your weight changed by a factor of .89, so your vertical should then increase by a factor of 1/.89. Which would imply a new vertical of 34”. This is a best case scenario and there are many more factors in real life, but it is a decent estimate
I'm curious what donovan's gct is
my father had a vertical of 39-41 inches as a volleyball player, lowkey didn't know until now and suddenly I wanna jump higher 😭😭🙏🙏
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Hey Isaiah and John, great podcast, very informative as always.
I have a question about my current situation : i am 5'11 with a 7'9 standing reach and can grab a 10 foot rim, putting me at around 27 inches of vert.
I'm a bodybuilder, but have only started vert training about a month ago. I would say my vert has increased by an inch from my starting point, so I had about 26 untrained.
I've only ever practiced on 10 foot dunks so I paid attention to my jump technique, but could not evaluate it while ACTUALLY trying to dunk (so with the ball)
I recently moved and am now able to train in a gym with a 9'3 hoop. I was delighted at the thought of finally being able to train dunking and have way more fun training but... i can't dunk on 9'3 ???
I just don't get it. Dribble, lob, backboard, oop, I just can NOT jump anywhere near my max vert, which should be enough ! I find myself very uncoordinated and i just can not replicate my regular jump technique. I guess aiming for the rim on 10' makes me jump higher, and maybe the ball makes me lose focus. Actually i did dunk it once, but it was of standing vert...
Anyway this is all very frustrating to me.... If you have any tips i'd love them !
Get consistent with standing dunks, then add a step, and get consistent. Repeat.
Work on one queue at a time and things can take time but make sure to reflect and look back at the progress
Hit up THP skool and people will analyze your videos and techniques as well as answer even more in depth than these YT comment sections
Oooh this is one of my favortie topics
So many variables...yet i still dont see much talk about arm size, weight or speed. Im starting to look in to the shoe and traction as major factors. Standing jump should be the best standard for measuring aspects of arm swing and leg power. Once you add in forward momentum, its a total game changer as to what is being utilized to tranfer that energy into vertical motion. I still say you guys should try ankle and arm weights to get a delta on the outcome.
I agree. I believe that arm swing has been underutilized by most jump training. After all, it alone contributes to at least 10% of an athlete’s vertical.
@troliskimosko that's just the thing, you say 10% I say 40%...try max jumping with no arm swing at all. Then try jumping max this 1lb arm weights. Then try adding stiff leg forward momentum ( minimum knee bend ). Jumping over stuff like a skateboard Ollie is so different from a max vert jump. Other jumps as in long or what ever the Olympics jump is. Those Olympics jumpers don't even care about landing, just getting their body over a stick. Dunking is a jump of a different class, most of the focus needs to include the ball. For us 5'6" inch peeps, adding the ball kills a straightforward technique. ( atleast it does for me ). I also noticed a heavy ball makes it easier. 🤔
@@subdynomanid estimate it to be more like 15-20% because you still get an arm swing on dribble dunks its just not as prominent. I know for myself i jump about 15% higher on lob approaches vs dribble approaches.
i have been jumping in slides with no traction outdoors for a year the slide has a whole in it and i can still fly 😂 shoes ain’t shit but slides ain’t it
@@subdynoman40%? I certainly jump lower without arm swing, but for example on a standing jump it adds only a few inches of vertical. On a running jump the problem is that the arms are required for balance as well, so most people couldn’t jump max effort without arm swing regardless of how hard they swing their arms. It’s like asking a cheetah to run without its tail.
11:14 I am speed
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What equation calculates vert from air time? The one I found on the internet isn't accurate or I'm using it wrong. Thanks
25:26 different strokes for different folks
Im not see the all vid , So it not have much conection about the faster gct the higher the jump?
How does weight affect vert? Is there an equation calculates if I lose x amount of fat I will jump x inches higher?
If you assume that you’re producing the same outputs (meaning that you’ve only lost fat and aren’t fatigued from a lack of fuel) then there is a direct correlation to losing weight and gaining vert, as jump height and weight would be inversely proportional. Meaning if you weighed 180 lbs and your vertical is 30”, and then you lost 20 lbs of non functional mass, then your weight changed by a factor of .89, so your vertical should then increase by a factor of 1/.89. Which would imply a new vertical of 34”. This is a best case scenario and there are many more factors in real life, but it is a decent estimate
10:42 I’ll consider this as being featured 😎
Same haha
My fav topic
Looked at my ground contact time and found out I need to move city
what would a .90 .91 flight time translate to
42-43"
Hiw are you wr holder when like 2+ people have 52+
Who tf has 52”. Jamal Harris fudged his reach hard and I never heard another guy claim 52”
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