Interesting that improvements to Noah's 60/100m PBs since '22 from 6.55 to 6.43 & 9.86 to 9.79 hasn't translated as expected into an improvement to his 19.31 200m PB/NR from when he only ran the 200m @'22 Eugene WC. Since doubling 100/200m @Major Meets, has literally never run sub 19.5s in the 200m Final; 9.83/19.52 @'23 Budapest WC, 9.83/19.53 @'24 US OLY Trials & 9.79/19.70* @'24 Paris OLY Covid Final. Would've needed to run well under 19.4s to beat a 19.46 Tebogo who was slapping his chest 10m from the line! Will be interesting to see if this pattern continues in '25!
Noah was simply no longer used to running the 200m, which is why, since he decided to focus on the 100/200, his times have been less impressive than in 2022. For example, in 2023, he never ran the first 100m of his 200m below 10.20, except once, but the wind was favorable at 1.7 during that race. In 2024, Noah ran the first 100m of his 200m in 10.17 and 10.18 during the Olympics and the trials. These times are still slower than his prime, which was between 10.07 and 10.15. We’ll see this year if he can get back to those times, and I think he’s more than capable, as he has never been faster than today. I’m excited to see the rematch between Tebogo and Lyles in the 200m.
He got slower in the 200m because he started focusing on 100m which he wasn’t doing prior to 2023. As for the lack of translation from the 60m to other events, you can just tell by watching him run the 60m that he runs it way differently than he does the 100m and 200m
The thing about the 200m final is that Noah was Noah's first 100m was 10.18 WITH covid, meaning it would've been faster without and his closing split was obviously where covid really affected him. Given his usual 200m close, he was on pace to run high 19.3, low 19.4. Even if you add his 9.26 close from 2023, which he ran in a headwind to 10.18 you still get 19.44. And I think Noah was definitely in better 200m shape in 2024 than in 2023. You can say what you want but I don't think Noah is any worse at the 200 meters now than before.
@joshuasanimations Worse than in 2022, but yeah, arguably better than 2023 (however the conditions in and before the 200m Final in Budapest weren't great which could've been why he 'only' went out in 10.26 that race).
Based on racing history, health and overall consistency, I believe Lyles will get the win here against Jacobs. He has been getting better and better each year and improving in minor events like the 60m and 150m quite rapidly. Plus, he is very much a top race performer who can perform under pressure and deliver good results. He did declare in his recent livestream with Frederick Flips that he will not be competing at World Indoor Championships this year, so I'm intrigued to see how he races throughout the Indoor season.
No…he’s getting better. His 2021 thing was those shoes, which he lost and got slow after he lost them. BUT, he’s improving on his own with his form, and he’s looking really good to me, honestly. He just needs more strength, because his mechanics and overall execution is amazing, to me, and will be much better if/when he’s merely stronger.
Jacobs went from broken (or still recovering) to 9.85 in an Olympic final in 2024. If you take into account where he was coming from, he's had an outstanding season and trajectory. I don't know if he's going to keep improving this year but I wouldn't be shocked if he dipped below 9.8 again in 2025. As for the 60m, it very much depends on the strategy he's working on at the moment. Could very well do 6.5 or less as well as use them as a stepping stone for the summer season and not care too much about his performance right now
lyles wouldn't be the first because mo greene was in the top ten all time in 60, 100 and 200 at the time he ran his pb's in the late 90's. but in todays world, lyles would be the only one on each of the top 10
noah knows that he is strong in 200m (he only lost in Paris because he was sick with COVID). noah has been working on the 60m and 100m to get better starts and improve extremely short distance. if noah keeps it up, he'll get the triple gold in LA.
He had triple gold in the bag after the 100m in paris, just got very unlucky with covid. LA is still a bit far, if he wins the 100 in tokyo this year I think he might do the triple
@joshuasanimationsabsolutely zero way of knowing if he would have won the 200m. That guy ran a time that Noah has only topped a couple times and has not topped in awhile.
Are you not gonna mention the fact that Thompson and Kerley dropped 6.41s during that same race? That first 60 meters would put those two in the top 10 conversation.
he literally made a video about kishane like a day ago running the fastsest 60m and today he needs name drop diff names just to get more clicks makes no sense
Crazy, but Jacobs and Lyles are almost identical in “style”. Jacobs gets out faster, but something about the two of these guys together, I believe they can improve one another tremendously if they were to train together, etc. You always bring up the right topics…great matchup!!!
Many people think Marcel Jackobs isn’t at his best and is far from it. They have a point, but in the Olympics final, Marcel beat everyone to the 30m or 40m mark. His start is still unbelievable and I think that with Lyles focusing on his start for 2025, (not the 200m as much) plus incredible top speed, this will be a race to watch and remember
@@floziq8117 bolt didnt run indoor 60s but he wouldve likely run around 6.34 or so (like coleman) given hes consistently split around 6.31-6.32 in his best outdoor races... so no, 6.39 isnt really bolt level unless youre talking about later career bolt (2013 onward)
The race will be very tight and I think Marcell Jacobs will be in great shape for season 25 because he has been training well without any major constraints/injuries. Prime Jacobs is and will always be better than Lyles and therefore I believe he has reached/is reaching his peak fitness and will beat Lyles in 60m at this race or the next (in world champs!)
@k.j.6998 so your saying that times false? And who doesn't bat an eye at that time? There's literally 100s of videos devoted to looking at that race! Many people have broke the video down to check it! Did you also know he has something like the 10th fastest split ever recorded at 6.34 when he ran his 9.92 pb as well
With that said Noah is doing same preparation of Olympics games start an early programme and fully booked races between trial, diamond league, and others meeting do you think will gain 7 months of high level or is gonna busted like last year when finished 3rd behind Tobogo and simulate COVID.....let see where he achieve and respect for this talent
New music?? Surly not related to THAT comment on Spencer Brown's (the Athlete Special) TH-camr ranking video... Unfortunately it's unlistenable. Please ignore them and go back to the same old same old.
Interesting that improvements to Noah's 60/100m PBs since '22 from 6.55 to 6.43 & 9.86 to 9.79 hasn't translated as expected into an improvement to his 19.31 200m PB/NR from when he only ran the 200m @'22 Eugene WC. Since doubling 100/200m @Major Meets, has literally never run sub 19.5s in the 200m Final; 9.83/19.52 @'23 Budapest WC, 9.83/19.53 @'24 US OLY Trials & 9.79/19.70* @'24 Paris OLY Covid Final. Would've needed to run well under 19.4s to beat a 19.46 Tebogo who was slapping his chest 10m from the line! Will be interesting to see if this pattern continues in '25!
Noah was simply no longer used to running the 200m, which is why, since he decided to focus on the 100/200, his times have been less impressive than in 2022. For example, in 2023, he never ran the first 100m of his 200m below 10.20, except once, but the wind was favorable at 1.7 during that race. In 2024, Noah ran the first 100m of his 200m in 10.17 and 10.18 during the Olympics and the trials. These times are still slower than his prime, which was between 10.07 and 10.15. We’ll see this year if he can get back to those times, and I think he’s more than capable, as he has never been faster than today. I’m excited to see the rematch between Tebogo and Lyles in the 200m.
He got slower in the 200m because he started focusing on 100m which he wasn’t doing prior to 2023. As for the lack of translation from the 60m to other events, you can just tell by watching him run the 60m that he runs it way differently than he does the 100m and 200m
The thing about the 200m final is that Noah was Noah's first 100m was 10.18 WITH covid, meaning it would've been faster without and his closing split was obviously where covid really affected him. Given his usual 200m close, he was on pace to run high 19.3, low 19.4. Even if you add his 9.26 close from 2023, which he ran in a headwind to 10.18 you still get 19.44. And I think Noah was definitely in better 200m shape in 2024 than in 2023. You can say what you want but I don't think Noah is any worse at the 200 meters now than before.
@ agreed, I think the focus on 100m has slowed him down recently
@joshuasanimations Worse than in 2022, but yeah, arguably better than 2023 (however the conditions in and before the 200m Final in Budapest weren't great which could've been why he 'only' went out in 10.26 that race).
They are both incredible for sure ! Both in their speed and looks. Marcel especially
with his movie star pretty face is so appealing !💥💙
Based on racing history, health and overall consistency, I believe Lyles will get the win here against Jacobs. He has been getting better and better each year and improving in minor events like the 60m and 150m quite rapidly. Plus, he is very much a top race performer who can perform under pressure and deliver good results.
He did declare in his recent livestream with Frederick Flips that he will not be competing at World Indoor Championships this year, so I'm intrigued to see how he races throughout the Indoor season.
Makes sense since he wouldn't want to burn himself out before Tokyo.
I think Jacobs past his prime…he may have a chance to contest Noah but I think Noah is just blazing through every race BUT you never know…
Jacobs literally ran his 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th fastest 100m times all in '24.
No…he’s getting better. His 2021 thing was those shoes, which he lost and got slow after he lost them. BUT, he’s improving on his own with his form, and he’s looking really good to me, honestly. He just needs more strength, because his mechanics and overall execution is amazing, to me, and will be much better if/when he’s merely stronger.
Wrong wrong and wrong
Jacobs went from broken (or still recovering) to 9.85 in an Olympic final in 2024. If you take into account where he was coming from, he's had an outstanding season and trajectory.
I don't know if he's going to keep improving this year but I wouldn't be shocked if he dipped below 9.8 again in 2025.
As for the 60m, it very much depends on the strategy he's working on at the moment. Could very well do 6.5 or less as well as use them as a stepping stone for the summer season and not care too much about his performance right now
Jacobs ran 9.85 not fully fit
Love your vids‼️ Thank you for representing track and field to the fullest💯
Only people to beat Coleman were Olympic champions...think
Yes for Bolt, Gatlin, Jacobs and Lyles but what about Simbine and Bromell?
I think people are just getting so fast that you need to start training at 8 to even compare to them
thse ppl started training at 7
lyles wouldn't be the first because mo greene was in the top ten all time in 60, 100 and 200 at the time he ran his pb's in the late 90's. but in todays world, lyles would be the only one on each of the top 10
The fact that Usain Bolt would have smoked all these dudes is crazy
Why?? The big five would smoke them all ! In the 100m gay blake gatling powell
the billionth time this has been said
Stating the obvious lol
grass is green comment bro MOVE on
@@BreezyVisualEffectsfacts, sky is blue ahh comment
Don't forget that in the Olympics, Jacobs' reaction time was 0.114 while Lyles had a much slower 0.178. Noah Lyles technically covered 60m way faster.
noah knows that he is strong in 200m (he only lost in Paris because he was sick with COVID). noah has been working on the 60m and 100m to get better starts and improve extremely short distance.
if noah keeps it up, he'll get the triple gold in LA.
He had triple gold in the bag after the 100m in paris, just got very unlucky with covid. LA is still a bit far, if he wins the 100 in tokyo this year I think he might do the triple
@joshuasanimationsabsolutely zero way of knowing if he would have won the 200m. That guy ran a time that Noah has only topped a couple times and has not topped in awhile.
noah lyles is incredible 🎉
I dont care too much who wins, I just wanna see a 6.3
not happening
@@RocketGFX probably not, indoor sprints seems to be lacking competition this year (I dont think coleman will be indoors this year)
Winning time: 6.38
By King Noah Lyles👍😁
nah, wont be that fast
@@Someone-hi1nt I said what I said. 6.38 for King Noah Lyles for the win. Watch.
@@Pothead8886.49
nah, wont be that fast
@@Pothead888 noah may win, but its not gonna be in the 6.3s
Marcel Jacobs Has moved in USA on the 23rd October.
We don't know in which condition will be and how us going the training with a new coach.
0.0 seconds faster? 4:34
STILL WAITING ON THE FRED KERLEY PIECE.........
Tf he gonna talk about 😂😂 TRP analyzes splits and wind readings not body cam footage
Trp has too much class for that.
@@wisforwinner Calm down little guy, Your getting yourself all worked up
@@chesterthemlester9989 you commented in all caps and 9 dots 🫵🤣🤡🤡
@wisforwinner lol at you being soo Triggered..
Posting in my thread..
Go troll other people's comment.
Typical sub 80 IQ
Are you not gonna mention the fact that Thompson and Kerley dropped 6.41s during that same race? That first 60 meters would put those two in the top 10 conversation.
Nah Thomson 6.40 and kerley 6.42
Thompson & Kerley probably not running in this up coming race so narrator felt the need to leave them.
he literally made a video about kishane like a day ago running the fastsest 60m and today he needs name drop diff names just to get more clicks makes no sense
Kishane’s splits are kinda wild tbh
Crazy, but Jacobs and Lyles are almost identical in “style”. Jacobs gets out faster, but something about the two of these guys together, I believe they can improve one another tremendously if they were to train together, etc. You always bring up the right topics…great matchup!!!
Many people think Marcel Jackobs isn’t at his best and is far from it. They have a point, but in the Olympics final, Marcel beat everyone to the 30m or 40m mark. His start is still unbelievable and I think that with Lyles focusing on his start for 2025, (not the 200m as much) plus incredible top speed, this will be a race to watch and remember
If Noah Lyles can improve, he has a good chance of beating Marcell Jacobs. That feat, no doubt, won't be easy.
6.39 Lyles
probably too fast
no chance
That's bolts level
@@floziq8117 bolt didnt run indoor 60s but he wouldve likely run around 6.34 or so (like coleman) given hes consistently split around 6.31-6.32 in his best outdoor races... so no, 6.39 isnt really bolt level unless youre talking about later career bolt (2013 onward)
@@Someone-hi1nt yh mb. I meant what u said around low 6.3s.. shows the level of bolts speed 🔥
I've been off the Jacobs train for a year and a half atp.
The race will be very tight and I think Marcell Jacobs will be in great shape for season 25 because he has been training well without any major constraints/injuries. Prime Jacobs is and will always be better than Lyles and therefore I believe he has reached/is reaching his peak fitness and will beat Lyles in 60m at this race or the next (in world champs!)
It’s funny how y’all forgetting Trayvon Bromell
I'd love to see a WR from jacobs
Still no bingtian su tho is it, 6.29!!!!
Don’t you think if it was a credible time it would be respected more. Why do you think track and field doesn’t even bat an eye at that time.
@k.j.6998 so your saying that times false? And who doesn't bat an eye at that time? There's literally 100s of videos devoted to looking at that race! Many people have broke the video down to check it! Did you also know he has something like the 10th fastest split ever recorded at 6.34 when he ran his 9.92 pb as well
Weak starts are Noah's and Sha'carri Richardson's weak link. Correct that and both would be virtually untouchable.
With that said Noah is doing same preparation of Olympics games start an early programme and fully booked races between trial, diamond league, and others meeting do you think will gain 7 months of high level or is gonna busted like last year when finished 3rd behind Tobogo and simulate COVID.....let see where he achieve and respect for this talent
I think he most likely wins, if not, only tebogo beats him but not bednarek. He's not even close
It would be so funny if Noah wins over Tebogo with a big margin 😂
We no talking about Fred kerley and Kishane Thompson at 6.41 through the 60😭😭
They haven't been announced to run indoors so they aren't a topic of conversation over 60m this year.
New music?? Surly not related to THAT comment on Spencer Brown's (the Athlete Special) TH-camr ranking video...
Unfortunately it's unlistenable. Please ignore them and go back to the same old same old.
Jacobs is done, and Lyles is close to done no more motivatiom except hype. A new Generation is coming and they re hungry.
NOAH LYLES VS. LAMONT MARCELL JACOBS...is not interesting to me..but im sure it will be a good race
Jacob is cooked
Trayvon bromel. Coleman
First
Jacobs is a non-factor.
They didn't even race your videos are trash