Vladimir Horowitz and his Favorite Pianists!

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  • Vladimir Horowitz is one of the most famous and important pianists of the 20th century. So which pianists was Horowitz inspired by? Which pianists did he admire? I created a list based on Horowitz's views. The books by David Dubal and Harold C. Schonberg on Vladimir Horowitz have been my main sources.
    00:00 Sergei Rachmaninoff
    Beethoven - 32 Variations in C minor (R. 1925)
    07:39 Alfred Cortot
    Schumann - Des Abends from Fantasiestucke (R. 1937)
    10:54 Ignaz Friedman
    Chopin - Nocturne in E flat Op. 55 No. 2 (R. 1936)
    15:33 Simon Barere
    Blumenfeld - Etude for the Left Hand Alone, Op. 36 (R. 1935)
    19:32 Sviatoslav Richter
    Scriabin - "Ninths" Etude, op 65, No. 1 (R. 1952)
    22:18 Walter Gieseking
    Debussy - Pagodes from Estampes (R. 1953)
    26:33 Alicia de Larrocha
    Manuel de Falla - Danza del Terror from El amor brujo (R. 1959)
    28:43 Wilhelm Backhaus
    Chopin - Études, Op. 10: No. 1 in C Major (R. 1927)
    30:42 Josef Lhevinne
    Chopin - Études, Op. 25: No. 6 in G# Minor (R. 1935)
    32:35 Emil von Sauer
    Chopin - Waltz, Op. 34 No. 3 (R. 1940)
    34:58 Ignacy Jan Paderewski
    Chopin - Mazurka Op. 59 No. 2 (R. 1930)
    37:31 Ferruccio Busoni
    Bach Fugue in C major, WTC, Book 1 (R. 1922)
    39:43 Heinrich Neuhaus
    Scriabin - Piano Sonata No. 9 (Black Mass)
    46:39 Artur Schnabel
    Brahms - Intermezzo op.116 n°2
    49:56 Edwin Fischer
    Mozart - Piano Concerto in D Major K. 537, Movment I
    50:53 Sergio Fiorentino
    Liszt - Consolation No. 3
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  • @leestamm3187
    @leestamm3187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A lifetime of enjoying recorded music has gifted my ears with a legion of wonderful pianists. Incredible artists from past and present. But if I must choose only one, it's Rachmaninoff. His unique blend of power and subtlety is like no other.

  • @OzanFabienGuvener
    @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I have written a more detailed version of this video on my site, there are some pianists that I didn't include in the video because of its length, but that he considers good (Art Tatum, Arthur Rubinstein etc.) and lots of extra information.: www.chopinzee.com/2022/06/vladimir-horowitz-and-his-favorite.html
    Here are a few facts about this list of Horowitz's favourites:
    * I didn't get some pianists. For example, according to Horowitz, Josef Hofmann was the first pianist to be influenced. He considered him "a great pianist" and "a first class pianist", but he did not like Hofmann's interpretations, describing him as a "second class musician" (Perhaps there was a rivalry from Rachmaninoff. ). He referred to pianists like Prokofiev and Arthur Rubinstein as "Not Bad" or "I like", but this list is a bit more of a "favorites". That's why I didn't add some names. Maybe there were names that I forgot or overlooked.
    * For Rachmaninoff, I actually chose the second movment of the First Piano Concerto, which Horowitz also mentioned. However, RCA and Naxos have (automatically) banned viewing of the Video. I couldn't even record any Rachmaninoff recordings, so I put in a vinyl record, even if the audio was a bit distorted.
    * I included Art Tatum's 1933 recording of Tea for Two, but copyrights did not allow the video to be viewed. In any case, Horowitz doesn't talk about him directly in the books, since it's a bit of a myth, I wanted to remove it when copyrights got in the way. But different sources say that both pianists love each other.

    • @beatlessteve1010
      @beatlessteve1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Horowitz said Heinrich Neuhaus was a major influence on him during one of his 1965 interviews.

  • @sergio6357
    @sergio6357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    50:55 Fiorentino is my favorite!!!
    I love all his music..

  • @dariodangelo8938
    @dariodangelo8938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Agree with Horowitz: Fiorentino was one of my Teachers (the most important, by the way). He impressed me too, very much 😂👍🤩

  • @stefanufer608
    @stefanufer608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very interesting - the Schumann played by Cortot is wonderful - glorious singing tone. There weren’t many pianists Horowitz openly admired!

  • @joe_fizz
    @joe_fizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful video, thank you for sharing

  • @christophersurnname9967
    @christophersurnname9967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video! Currently on a Horowitz binge so this is perfect timing.

    • @arpeggiomikey
      @arpeggiomikey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm on a LIFETIME Volodya binge! 😁👍

  • @bvbwv3
    @bvbwv3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An indescribable treasure of a posting. Thank you. Thank you, Ozan Fabien Guvener.

  • @BryanHalo123
    @BryanHalo123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is a special collection. Thank you for putting it together.

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found this priceless! Fascinating.

  • @msotil
    @msotil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sergio Fiorentino: He is the only other pianist, said the legendary Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli of Sergio Fiorentino (1927-1998). Fiorentino dedicated himself mostly to teaching and not to concertizing. His career was cut prematurely short in 1954 by an air crash.

  • @johnrock2173
    @johnrock2173 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic collection as always. That Gieseking Debussy is amazing. I remember reading Evenings With Horowitz way back and actually just saw it at a bookstore. Thank you for your talent in compiling these.

  • @sappallow
    @sappallow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for this fascinating post. The performances are amazing. I still marvel how Cortot, despite a limited technique could produce some of the most expressive & profound recordings of Schumann & Chopin ever made. His rubato is subtle, organic, & truly musical. Likewise, Schnabel with his huge technical limitations produced Beethoven recordings that still leave us in awe for their direct purity of conception.

    • @magbag70
      @magbag70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cortot had not a limited technique in my view... this is a misconception derived from the fact most recordings are from his later years. There are some early recordings which display a great technique. And yes, he was one of the greatest .. his Chopin , Schumann ... yes .. and also his Franck and Debussy... among the best

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, I wish I hadn't missed it :(

    • @davidcotuit
      @davidcotuit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed! Remember what Rubinstein said....he could play an entire recital consisting only of all the wrong notes he had played during his career.

    • @donaldallen1771
      @donaldallen1771 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@magbag70 I agree with you completely. Anyone who makes the statement that Cortot did not have a virtuoso technique hasn't heard the early recordings, most importantly the Chopin Etudes. Even the recording of the Chopin b-minor Sonata, where some of the wrong-note tendency appears, is stupendous playing, technically and musically. For me, it's the greatest performance of that masterpiece, with his student, Dinu Lipatti, not far behind.

    • @guigui9344
      @guigui9344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cortot, limite technique ? 🤣🤣
      Most people don't even understand what technique is.
      Playing the compositions he was playing and intetpreting them with that expressiveness(without entrering in all details) requires huuuge technique.

  • @nunosantos-tenor9099
    @nunosantos-tenor9099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you! That is really interesting! :)

  • @lucasramos253
    @lucasramos253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That was the best op 55 no 2 i had ever heard. Ignaz Friedman was a really good pianist

    • @albertomartin4812
      @albertomartin4812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That recording is in the top 3 of my favourites of all time. It was pure magic.

    • @ganjamozart1435
      @ganjamozart1435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cortot's is on par. Absolutely magical as well.

    • @robertocornacchionialegre
      @robertocornacchionialegre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is the best ever! My favorite pianist at the moment are Frederic Lamond and Ignaz Friedman. Two different styles of playing, both amazing and I don’t know any modern pianist that can match them.

    • @davidcotuit
      @davidcotuit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really good? GREAT!

    • @TheLifeisgood72
      @TheLifeisgood72 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Part of the reason why it's so good is the historical pitch used - 436hz, closer to Chopin's (most likely) 434hz.

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful testimonies.
    There is lot comments possible on Horowitz's comments ........
    Thank you very much.

  • @dipierro4
    @dipierro4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never had heard of Florentino. THANK YOU for introducing me to his playing.

    • @Dancingjulien
      @Dancingjulien ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/xZLwmHYrLa4/w-d-xo.html

    • @sukangeong
      @sukangeong ปีที่แล้ว

      Michelangeli always referred to Fiorentino as "the other pianist."

  • @derisleybrittain
    @derisleybrittain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @berlinzerberus
    @berlinzerberus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wonderful!
    Horowitz was not only interested in his own playing but also in statements about
    prominent colleaques, according to what he said in this fabulous compilation. He didn't
    grudge them their success and appreciated what he liked.

  • @NOSEhow2LIV
    @NOSEhow2LIV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fascinating video, thank you! I'm surprose nevertheless by the absence of Rudolf Firkusny who VH refers to very specifically and enthusiastically (for his Schubert Drei Klavierstücke)in his postwar New York period. They were linked not only by admiration and friendship but also thru Samuel Barber, both early interpreters of his Sonata and Excursions. I'm plose to learn that VH appreciote Fiorentino.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Unfortunately, he did not mention Rudolf Firkusny in the books, but of course you are right, it was mentioned in other interviews, but I missed it.

  • @johnschlesinger2009
    @johnschlesinger2009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much amazing playing here. Lhevinne's 25/6 is incredible.

  • @anonymusum
    @anonymusum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They all are great, great pianists, but when I heard Busoni playing a simple scale in C-major I must confess that I never heard such an unbelievable evenness. It was just a simple scale but it told me that this man was very, very special. No wonder that great pianists like Clara Haskil were eager to take lessons from him. - And by the way: I would have added Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli.

    • @leestamm3187
      @leestamm3187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Busoni was a great pianist to be sure. Also a splendid composer, conductor and teacher.

    • @marksmith3947
      @marksmith3947 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe it was Dohnanyi who said that hearing Bartok play a C major scale was a revelation because it wasn't even

  • @davidwhite2949
    @davidwhite2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful, and I agree, Rachmaninoff is amazing. It happens, but not often, that a composer can perform so well

    • @muthafutha
      @muthafutha 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liszt would be on your short Liszt . .. . .

    • @davidcotuit
      @davidcotuit ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed! Beethoven and Liszt weren't too shabby at the keyboard. LOL

    • @DihelsonMendonca
      @DihelsonMendonca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really ? What happens is that it's rare for a performer get to perform a composer how should it be. Chopin, Liszt, Debussy, Scriabin and many others who say ... 😅😅😅

  • @michaelreich2306
    @michaelreich2306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sehr interessant!

  • @martinmysteres1384
    @martinmysteres1384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I hear so much Cortot when I listen to Horowitz. If I don't mistake, Horowitz did study for a while with Cortot when he came to Paris. I think they both have the same bel canto tone. This ability to make the piano sing. Horowitz preciseness, dynamics, his ability to produce a big sound, his use of pedals, overall showmanship and so on, are even greater but it's just my opinion. I go back to the video and listen to the other pianists. Thank you very much for the upload.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're welcome, it's my pleasure. Horowitz wanted to take lessons from Cortot (especially after hearing Cortot's 1919 Saint-Seans Etude Recording), but Cortot refused. Maybe he thought it wasn't necessary, maybe he wanted to keep some things to himself :). Cortot was probably his biggest role model after Rachmaninoff.
      I agree, Bel Canto plays are very similar in my opinion. Possibly Horowitz's role models in Bel Canto were Cortot and Friedman. And of course Caruso and Mattia Battistini :).
      Horowitz is better than Cortot in some aspects, of course. For example, Horowitz has almost no rival when it comes to playing the piano like an orchestra and in terms of dynamic richness, yes Horowitz is superior. Or, Cortot's tone and style are not for every composer. But Horowitz's touch and character are appropriate, from Scarlatti and Mozart to Prokofiev and Barber.
      But on the other hand, I like the timbre that Cortot achieves on the piano more than Horowitz. Cortot's tone and timbre are very beautiful. I think they use the pedal differently, they are both masters at it, but different ways. Cortot appeals to me a little more about the depth of interpretation and creativity.
      But if we reduce it to just piano technique (Technique is very extensive here), Horowitz is a better "pianist". But even though the two of them are close as "musicians", Cortot appeals to me a little more. This is also a purely relative point though :)
      How can I say here, I can't say one is better than the other. For example, I prefer Cortot in Chopin Ballads. But in Liszt Hungarian Rhapsodies, Horowitz would be my preference. I think the recordings of the Liszt piano sonata or the Mendelssohn Variations sérieuses are of equivalent quality. I think Schumann and Debussy are very close, but there is little difference, I would say Cortot. Composers such as Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert and Brahms have an obvious Horowitz superiority. Horowitz is more versatile as I said. His repertoire is broader. Horowitz's style can fit anything: Modern composers, romantics, classics and baroques... Few pianists can come close to this.

    • @martinmysteres1384
      @martinmysteres1384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@OzanFabienGuvener It's very interesting, thank you. A big difference also would be that Cortot's abilities deteriorated with time whereas Horowitz gained maturity and richness as he grew older... I have in mind Horowitz's concerts and recordings between 1985 till the end which are pure mastery. Especially his Scarlatti, Mozart (becoming his number one) and Clementi. Personally, I don't like Prokofiev's percussive music, nor I like Barber's oddities. In terms of modern music I would prefer Scriabine...
      I get your point comparing the two of them. I agree, Cortot's Chopin Ballads are exquisite. If I may suggest and idea : I think that Cortot being French, he had a very charming way of expressing romantic music created in western Europe. On the other hand, Horowitz being mostly Russian, not only did he master romantic music but he had a natural closeness to slavic composers such as Liszt or Rachmaninoff.
      I agree, Horowitz is more versatile. Even the few Bach he played are extraordinary ( th-cam.com/video/2PzGf-_zKuM/w-d-xo.html ).
      Talking about Mendelssohn Variations Sérieuses, I heard a very special interpretation that left me breathless. Zimerman playing it live with an outstanding finale ( th-cam.com/video/tUPhyced5NU/w-d-xo.html ). If you please, let me know your impressions.
      Thank you again for this pleasant discussion. :)
      (I'm French so I tried my best to express myself in English)
      See you

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@martinmysteres1384 I don't listen to Barber and Prokofiev much, I mean there, Horowitz can even play them very well. I meant he could play almost anything on the piano. Of course, Horowitz is great with names like Scriabine. One of his specialties.
      Yes, you are right about the age factor. Horowitz's latest recording is one of my favourites.
      I don't always like Zimmerman, but he plays really well here. The finale is really good!
      And thank you too for this pleasant discussion :).

    • @martinmysteres1384
      @martinmysteres1384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@OzanFabienGuvener I don't always like Zimerman too. Since Horowitz only recorded the third Rachmaninoff Concerto (wich I don't forgive), I turn to Zimerman for the first one (with Seiji Ozawa as conductor) and Rachmaninoff himself for the second and the fourth.
      Horowitz's last recording is such a last will and testament ! The last sparkle containing all his magic and achievement... especially Chopin Etude Op. 25 N. 1 and 5 and the Fantaisie-Impromptu.
      My favorite recording is not a studio session but is the second sonata of Rachmaninoff he played in London in 1982. This moment is always almost a mystical experience. Yet, he was not at his best during this period and the whole concert is unequal... but this second sonata is something special.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@martinmysteres1384 Glad to hear what you said about Horowitz's London concert recording. I totally agree and I love that recording very much!

  • @lunchmind
    @lunchmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this wonderful and revealing compilation. compilation. Yet I sense that Horowitz damns von Sauer with faint praise. He was more than a mere salon pianist.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, for some reason there is such a perception, Arrau says the same thing. It is clear that Sauer is not a typical salon pianist.

  • @AndStar100
    @AndStar100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I also read Horowitz was a big fan of Emil Gilels. There’s a postcard from VH to Gilels where he writes to ‘a dear friend and colleague’.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  ปีที่แล้ว

      He was respected as a pianist but not a fan, Giels didn't suit his taste:, Horowitz said: "Of the Russian pianists I like only one, Richter. Gilels did some things well, but I did not like his mannerisms, the way he moved around while he was playing."

    • @AndStar100
      @AndStar100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OzanFabienGuvener thanks for the info, I didn’t know that!

    • @AndStar100
      @AndStar100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OzanFabienGuvener which, on second thought, is somewhat funny given Richter was not a fan of Horowitz at all

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@AndStar100
      Yes haha! Richter actually says that Horowitz has great talent as a pianist, but he doesn't like his musician side, or rather his interpretations. I also read somewhere that Richter really liked Horowitz's last set of recordings, which he did a few days before he died, but I can't find where I read that later. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I read something like this somewhere years ago, although I can't find it again!

  • @ler_47
    @ler_47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know you got it good when you understand Scriabin's music💯

  • @FJCrociata
    @FJCrociata ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most significant omission: Rudolf Serkin who VH several times said he admired highest among all his contemporaries. Other having positive VH quotes: Garrick Ohlsson, Ashkenazy (but early Ashkenazy) and VH's student Ronald Turini.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're right, I should have added Serkin specifically. What did he say to Ohlsson? I don't remember that.

    • @peterlever2534
      @peterlever2534 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Serkin...I loved him like a brother" said VH.

    • @cmclean6475
      @cmclean6475 ปีที่แล้ว

      Art Tatum too! And thought I read somewhere Peter Nero as well?

  • @Jannick636
    @Jannick636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i would have expected to see a nod to Art Tatum in the list. Although not being a classical pianist, he was still greatly respected by, among others Rubinstein and Horowitz. Nevertheless, I really enjoyed the video. Thank you

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually, there was, but I couldn't put it because it was copyrighted (the video was blocked) and Horowitz didn't say anything directly to Tatum (but we know he liked him).

    • @Ace-dv5ce
      @Ace-dv5ce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OzanFabienGuvener I believe he said something. Like art Tatum would do great in classical music aswell if he dedicated his life to it

    • @vova47
      @vova47 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ace-dv5ce Please state your source for this "quote".

    • @Ace-dv5ce
      @Ace-dv5ce ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vova47 I’m not sure where it originated from but a lot of sources claim he said that I don’t know though

  • @seanmortazyt
    @seanmortazyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fantastic

  • @yannlombard3587
    @yannlombard3587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello, thanks for this post, dont you forget his dear Friend Rudolf Serkin ?

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did he say anything about Serkin in the books? Maybe I missed it :(

  • @stephengallucci1592
    @stephengallucci1592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I ALWAYS Thought Friedman played this Nocturen the best ! GOOD to have Horowitz on my side! The interpretation is delicate, in love, sensitive and has a 3D effect. It's divine.

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mi Consolación. Favorita. 🌹🤗

  • @SayBootsey
    @SayBootsey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great compilation, just missing one very important favorite of Horowitz'
    ART TATUM
    thank you nonetheless, it's cool to have so many good recordings and quotes in one video 🙂

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. Actually I included Art Tatum's 1933 recording of Tea for Two, but copyrights did not allow the video to be viewed. In any case, Horowitz doesn't talk about him directly in the books, since it's a bit of a myth, I wanted to remove it when copyrights got in the way. But different sources say that both pianists love each other.

    • @SayBootsey
      @SayBootsey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ah, i see @@OzanFabienGuvener, didn't know it was a myth... i read somewhere that Horowitz allegedly said sth to the accord of "if he (Tatum) ever decided to play classical piano seriously i'd retire instantly"? 😅 Tatum's Dvorak-recordings are remarkable, not just his own music... do you happen to know if Horowitz was interested in any other stride/jazz-pianists?

  • @dieterreichenbacher9660
    @dieterreichenbacher9660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the Horowitz biography from Glenn Plaskin it is also mentioned that Horowitz highly esteemed Dinu Lipatti and William Kapel..

    • @davidcotuit
      @davidcotuit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kapell....America'es greatest native pianist.

  • @beatlessteve1010
    @beatlessteve1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been on a Horowitz binge since I first heard him play Chopin Nocturne op 55 in f... Way back 10 years ago . Only the Beatles beats him in how long I have binged on music

  • @palmerplantagenet
    @palmerplantagenet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As great as Horowitz was, I don't believe he could have demonstrated Friedman's joie de vivre as shown by the latter in "Viennese Dances of Gaertner arr. Friedman. Or perhaps the easy elegance of Jozef Lhevinne as expressed in his Fruhlingsnacht by Schumann-Liszt. Horowitz had the most extensive use of color and dynamics - though almost always a little 'hard-edged'. The tone was certainly "pressed", yet not necessarily "caressed".

  • @davidcotuit
    @davidcotuit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    H and Freidman!! Fab photo!!

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't believe Rachmaninoff in Beethoven ! His Chopin playing is ofcourse famous and too little Chopin style but his Beet is out of this world :imaginative and powerful

  • @jedrzejsteszewski6694
    @jedrzejsteszewski6694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fiorentino ❤

  • @pianomaniac14
    @pianomaniac14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you know if Horowitz knew Leon Fleisher? I know they both lived in NY while Fleisher was there (I know he was from San Francisco). Being a recent Peabody Conservatory graduate, I'm very curious.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fleisher talks about Horowitz's pianism a lot, but I don't remember Horowitz talking about him. I'll take a look, if there's a direct relationship between them, I'll write again.

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saludos. 🙋🌹México

  • @militaryandemergencyservic3286
    @militaryandemergencyservic3286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice

  • @gatesurfer
    @gatesurfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Playlist please.

  • @luargambino
    @luargambino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Horowitz does not talk about Hoffman, which is strange because his influence is remarkable.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He actually talks about him, he's a great pianist but says I don't like his interpretations. Maybe Horowitz was a jealousy caused by Rachmaninoff. Because Rachmaninoff said: Hofmann the biggest, followed by Horowitz.

    • @pianobern69
      @pianobern69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OzanFabienGuvener Wasn't Rachmaninoff also a huge admirer of Gilels?

    • @berlinzerberus
      @berlinzerberus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OzanFabienGuvener He sometimes was 'bitchy' and as almost every artist a little narcissistic! ;)
      Ich bin der Meinung, das Hoffman viel mehr Rachmaninoffs pianistischem Ideal entsprach als
      Horowitz, der freilich sein 3. Konzert fantastisch spielte. Aber an die Fantasie und das Raffinement
      eines Jozef Hoffman kam Horowitz bei weitem nicht heran und konnte ihn nicht übertreffen.
      Das wußte solch eine Persönlichkeit wie Rachmaninoff natürlich!

  • @robertocornacchionialegre
    @robertocornacchionialegre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He had a good taste :)

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most people judge the pianist by the quality of the recording. Flirentino has a wonderful recording, you hear even the harmonics. If the recording was so bad as some from 1020, I doubt many people would like. 😅😅😅

  • @dkant4511
    @dkant4511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Left out Art Tatum!

  • @Johannes_Brahms65
    @Johannes_Brahms65 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I like most about Horowitz is that he said that Beethoven couldn't have written one note that's written by Schubert. Not one note! (Of course this has to be understood in a certain context).

  • @dorfmanjones
    @dorfmanjones ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep in mind Horowitz never actually heard Busoni play. He might be referring to some acoustic gramophone records.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right, I had to specifically state this in the video.

  • @zlatan503
    @zlatan503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    26:33 Nice picture! By the way do you know if Horwitz said something about Maestro Claudio Arrau?

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Horowitz complained that Arrau was playing too slow: "I heard his Emperor and it was terrible. He plays so slow, ugh. Also the Waldstein. So slow." Perhaps Horowitz's thoughts on Arrau's prime period are different because he wasn't playing slow at the time. Horowitz generally disliked pianists influenced by the German tradition. He specifically stated this, said "I love Backhaus", and said there "Backhaus was not actually from the German school", like that.
      Arrau was influenced by German pianists.We see the German influence in him.
      On the other hand, one of Arrau's favorite pianists is Horowitz. Arrau was very impressed by Horowitz's volcanic piano playing

    • @zlatan503
      @zlatan503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@OzanFabienGuvener That's really interesting... I feel like I am somehow on the Arrau's side because Arrau and Horowitz are my two favorite pianists of all time. Thanks a lot!

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@zlatan503 You're welcome! Soon I can do a similar concept for Arrau: "Arrau's favourites"

    • @gastonruizoyarce4818
      @gastonruizoyarce4818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@OzanFabienGuvener Hello! I don't think Horowitz was one of Arrau's favorite pianists, as far as I can remember, in "Conversations with Arrau", Joseph Horowitz asks him what names (from western Europe, if I'm not mistaken) he considered great pianists, and he answers that Rachmaninoff had a tremendous technique but the sound wasn't good, also that Godowsky didn't play anything beyond mezzo forte, I think he also referred to Paderewski not being a great pianist. The only name he said he'd mention is Horowitz, he heard him in Berlin in the 20s and as you said he was impressed, in fact his mother said "you better go practice, because he plays better than you", hahahahaha. But, I don't think Arrau appreciated Horowitz too much, at least in his mature years, nor choosing him as a "favorite", for instance, later in that same book, they mention Chopin's Scherzo N°1 and he said how every pianist was jealous of Horowitz doing the final scale passage in octaves, to what he claims that it's 10 times easier to play that passage in that way than playing it as is written with the accents and tension needed. Another example, in his Desert Island choices he didn't mention Horowitz, he picked recordings by De Larrocha and Gilels but none by Horowitz, so whether Arrau recognized Horowitz as a great pianist I don't think he would choose him as a "favorite".
      Greetings :)

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@gastonruizoyarce4818 Hello:) Firstly, thank you, you made a good point! I have read the sources you mentioned before. I also read what Arrau said in his book "Great contemporary pianists speak for themselves".Arrau's favorite pianists are clear: Busoni, Cortot, Schnabel, Edwin Fischer, Carreno.
      A phrase by Arrau: "Who are the -great pianists of the past most remembered? For me they are Busoni, Schnabel, Fischer, Cortot... All thinkers and great interpreters, as well as great pianists."
      Maybe you're right, he says in the book that he was actually very impressed with Horowitz, but that could be for the Berlin years. But on the other hand, he highly praises Horowitz, In the book you mentioned, I quote what Arrau said about Horowitz:
      "Horowitz, he's a special case. Tremendous electricity. Him I would call a great pianist."
      "I remember he played the four Chopin ballades, and the Liszt sonata, and the Funeral March Sonata of Chopin. He also played, very well, the Beethoven Thirty-two Variations. Oh, I was tremendously impressed by him. It was some of the most volcanic playing I've ever heard."
      What we understand by the word "favorite" is, of course, variable. But one of the pianists he most praised and influenced in his youth seems to be Horowitz. Not as much as Cortot, Fischer, Schnabel or Busoni, but may be mentioned after them.
      "Desert Island Discs" is a bit more like a piece selection rather than a pianist, but I could be wrong. For example, I don't remember Arrau saying anything special to Giels in the books. But the BBC Radio selection does not have Cortot, Busoni, Fishcer, who are among Arrau's favourites. Arrau would say of Cortot: "Cortot was absolutely marvelous, I adored him." I mean, that selection is more of a selection of works than a selection of pianists. It seems to me that Horowitz is among the pianists he was influenced by and loved. If you have any objections to this, I'd love to hear it :)

  • @militaryandemergencyservic3286
    @militaryandemergencyservic3286 ปีที่แล้ว

    note that he didn't comment on Gilels (to whom Rachmaninoff gave his medal)...

  • @francodegrandis7531
    @francodegrandis7531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Manca Emil Gilels uno dei piu' amati pianisti di Horowitz, basta leggere la sua biografia

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Para mí Horowkts para Lizst. 💐

  • @Piflaser
    @Piflaser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicholas Angelich and Radu Lupu R.I.P.

  • @jeremyd1021
    @jeremyd1021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No mention of ABM? It is well known that Horowitz was a great admirer, whilst at the same time without wanting to admit as much, even going as far as attending one of his Carneige Hall recitals and listening from behind a curtain so that no one could see him.

    • @pieroalessandrocassano8287
      @pieroalessandrocassano8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      È vero legga l intervista su piano time del 1986 credo che ho riportato nelle mie note

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Horowitz says of him: "Interesting pianist, but I think he is just a little bit meshuga."

  • @cmclean6475
    @cmclean6475 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the jazz pianists he admired? Wasn't it Art Tatum, andf even perhaps Peter Nero?

  • @wodzimierzwosimieta2758
    @wodzimierzwosimieta2758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Paderewski plays mazurka op. 59 no 2 not no 3

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh you're right, I changed the mazurka records because I had a copyright problem at first, I forgot it there. thank you i fix it!

    • @CarmenReyes-em9np
      @CarmenReyes-em9np 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cortot. Homenaje. !!!!!!!!!!!! 😘🙏🎼🎶🎶🎶🙋

    • @CarmenReyes-em9np
      @CarmenReyes-em9np 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me conmueve la. bondad de Ozein 🎶🎶⏰🎶🤩

    • @CarmenReyes-em9np
      @CarmenReyes-em9np 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Richter. 🌹🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🙋México.

    • @CarmenReyes-em9np
      @CarmenReyes-em9np 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gran técnica. México.

  • @RB-bj9ms
    @RB-bj9ms ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing that he had no comment about Arthur Rubenstein.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually he did. Horowitz liked Rubinstein's Spanish repertoire. But he said Rubinstein didn't have good technique: "He never had a great technique, but certain things he played well. I heard him play some of the Chopin etudes, the easier ones, with great panache." Actually, there is some sarcasm here. What Horowitz is implying is that Rubinstein plays simple works too flamboyantly. But he didn't say Rubinstein was a bad pianist. He did not consider Rubinstein among his favourites, but referred to him as a "good pianist".

  • @mkeysou812
    @mkeysou812 ปีที่แล้ว

    Horowitz, the Queen B that he is, dishes out backhanded compliments like he dishes out octaves

  • @leonardodelyrarodrigues3752
    @leonardodelyrarodrigues3752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jan Paderewski, good Chopin.

  • @PianoJFAudioSheet
    @PianoJFAudioSheet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let's not forget Horowitz stating: "I want to be Cziffra!"

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoops, I hadn't seen that! Thanks for the addition.

    • @srothbardt
      @srothbardt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OzanFabienGuvenerDid Horowitz teach Byron Janis? Whatever happened to him?

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@srothbardt
      For some reason Horowitz doesn't mention him in the books. But the reason for this is probably personal. I read that there was something going on between Janis and Horowitz's wife, but I don't remember the details.

  • @thomgeo8073
    @thomgeo8073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rachmaninoff is GOD'S Flame

  • @funklover24
    @funklover24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rachmaninov's Beethoven is too high (c sharp minor) and therefore probably faster, than he played.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did not use the direct recording due to copyrights, the video was blocked.

  • @gerardkuntzmann21
    @gerardkuntzmann21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And where is Art Tatum ?

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Various untrue myths arose between Art Tatum and Horowitz, even linking Horowitz's quitting the piano for a period to Tatum. These were unrealistic, but Horowitz seems to have liked Tatum's pianist. According one source, Horowitz enjoyed Tatum's wonderful arpeggios. But there is no exaggerated praise, even when Horowitz is asked about his favorite pianists, he does not mention Tatum.
      According another source, Henry Pleasants, who had covered the jazz beat and written with perspicacity about jazz singers, told the story about Horowitz sneaking in to listen to the jazz pianist Art Tatum. He was terribly impressed with Tatum's technique and his easy, natural way of playing, and on one occasion couldn't understand how Tatum did what he did in 'Tea for Two.' So he introduced himself Tatum admitted that yeah, he had heard of Vladimir Horowitz. The two men had a pleasant talk, and then Horowitz asked Tatum how long it had taken him to learn 'Tea for Two.' Tatum looked at him as though he were crazy. 'I just made it up,' he said. Horowitz went home and worked up his own arrangement of 'Tea for Two,' which he played as a party piece.

  • @aotgun
    @aotgun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Türkçe çevirisi olsaydı da okusaydık Horowitz'in yorumlarını.

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Biraz fazla özet halinde olsa da temel fikri çevireyim sizin için.
      Rahmaninov'u en büyük piyanist ve idolü gördüğünü ve en iyi çaldığı şeylerden birinin Beethoven olduğunu; Cortot'yu en iyi Chopin ve Schumann yorumcusu olarak gördüğünü ve çok entelektüel biri olduğunu; Friedman için kimse Op. 55 no. 2'yi ondan iyi çalamayacağını ve bazen bazı fikirleri tuhaf bulsa da onun çalışından çok etkilendiğini; Barere için muazzam tekniği olduğunu ve Blumenfeld'in sol el etüdünü mucizevi biçimde çaldığını; yeni nesil Slav piyanistler arasında bir tek Richter'den etkilendiğini; sürekli öyle çaldığı için bir noktadan sonra sıkılsa da Gieseking'in hafif tuşesinin onu çok büyülediğini ve etkilediğini; Lhevinne'nin teknik Chopin etütler konusunda bir numara olduğunu; Bachkaus'un Alman ekolünde olmadığını ve çok etkileyici çaldığını, Liszt öğrencilerini pek sevmediğini ama Sauer'in istisna olup salon müziğinde -Chopin valsleri gibi- çok iyi bulduğunu ve salon müziği harici yapıtları da -Beethoven sonatları gibi- çok iyi icra edebildiğini, Paderewski'nin tekniğinin eleştirilse de aslında zamanla bozulduğunu ve mazurkaları çok güzel çaldığını; Busoni'nin benzersiz bir deha olduğunu; Almanya günlerinde Fischer'dan pek etkilenmediğini belirtse de Mozart'ını çok beğendiğini; Neuhaus teknik olarak zayıf olsa da tekniğin değil yorum derinliğinin onu etkilediğini ve birçok piyanist/besteciyi Neuhaus'un ona tanıttığını; İspanyol repertuvarında Larrocha'nın en iyisi olduğunu; Schnabel'ın Brahms yorumundan bir hayli etkilendiğini; İtalya'da kalırken radyoda sürekli duyduğu Fiorentino'yu çok beğendiğini söylüyor.
      Bunun dışında beğenmediği piyanistlere de değiniyor, onları videoda yer vermedim ama size bahsedeyim. Gould'un Wagner çalışını aptalca bulduğunu, Arturo Bendetti Michelengeli'nin enteresan bir piyanist olduğunu ama biraz delirmiş olduğunu, Arrau'nun yavaş çalışının sıktığını, André Watts gibi salt teknik piyanistlerden nefret etttiğini, Rosenthal'ın çalışından nefret ettiğini ve cümlemelerini sevmediğini, Hofmann'ın müthiş bir piyanist ama ikinci sınıf müzisyen olduğunu belirtir.

    • @aotgun
      @aotgun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OzanFabienGuvener 🙏 harikasınız. Çok teşekkür ederim

  • @ronwilsontringue6574
    @ronwilsontringue6574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liberace could play very fast - especially the Jones Organ Etude in H sharp (minor) without foot pedals

  • @pieroalessandrocassano8287
    @pieroalessandrocassano8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When he came to play in La Scala theatre in Milan they asked him in an interview"Do you have any favourite Italian pianists","I like and admire very much Michelangeli".."And Pollini ?"asked the communist Italian
    interviewer"I don't know him"..he was a great "Sir"..Infact how could a colourist like him love a "white and black" materialist pianist metronomical playing like Pollini?

  • @ChopinIsMyBestFriend
    @ChopinIsMyBestFriend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    he just like me doe

  • @ianhall3822
    @ianhall3822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe. But it was Liberace who laughed all the way to the bank...

  • @329376676
    @329376676 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Horowitz on Rubinstein: He's as good as me.
    I made that up

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No suena bien el piano.

  • @ppiiaannoo
    @ppiiaannoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yuja Wang?

    • @gatesurfer
      @gatesurfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Born after died.

    • @ppiiaannoo
      @ppiiaannoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gatesurfer :D

    • @arpeggiomikey
      @arpeggiomikey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yuja, born in 1987, was two years old when Volodya passed; however, I'm certain he would be floored ("flabbergasted" was an adjective he used a lot) by the incredible feat she achieved in performing all four Rachmaninoff concerti -- plus the Paganini Rhapsody! -- in one marathon evening, even wearing a different dress for each work (let's see Volodya pull THAT off!)! 😉🤣🍾🥂😋👍💝

  • @ingeniero00007
    @ingeniero00007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cziffra was better than horowitz by far, this one could not differentiate every note, he was actually deaf about it

    • @barrygordon5323
      @barrygordon5323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cziffra was with Simon barere had ,the greatest technique I have heard among the older guys,and were great,but cziffra never had Horowitz huge sound ,and electrically he never had that either, Horowitz in fact makes them all seem tame. . musically give me Claudio arrau,,,