@Pandananner Folding from pure foil is possible, but very hard. If you have a small rip in the foil, it will extend quickly. Foil also crumbles easily and is not forgiving at all. So, yes, the paper component does change the quality of the resulting paper a lot, and is important.
@RasyidNaufal You mean the colored tissue paper? I buy that in local stores, rather than online, but it's widely available both online and in many countries.
You can find tissue paper in many craft stores. It is really quite thin and soft.The paper weight is usually around 20gsm (where office paper has 4 times that weight or more). Hope this helps.
@itsmeordadog Some stores sell tissue foil, but the manufacturing process - and the resulting paper - will be different. I'm not aware of any store that sells this kind of tissue foil.
@TheLovelypooh I don't understand your question. Why would you prepare tissue foil? It's a nice paper choice for some origami models, and you can create the colour combinations you like.
The smaller ones come from origami packs. They often have a cardboard backing, and I just kept those. The big one (shown in the double tissue video) I got in a hardware store - simply ask them to cut some press board to the size you like. I've also cut a hexagon stencil from some cardboard, and it's close enough. In the end, it's worth putting some effort into a stencil, because it will save lots of work afterwards.
If you need larger sheets, one method is to overlap the edges slightly, and then apply MC to glue the two sheets of tissue paper together. The paper will be a bit thicker on the overlap, but it seems to have worked for others. With foil I'd guess that you don't need to overlap, just ensure that there's no gap. Some people also tape sheets together. In that case it's probably good to study the crease pattern first to determine where tape will not show in the finished model.
I don't know, I just went to a hardware store. You should get that sort of glue at any decently sized hardware store, I think. Of course there will be other brands depending on the country...
@xXCardsMagicXx This particular kind: not that I'm aware of. The main advantage of this technique is that you can do whatever color combination you want. If you don't have that restriction, there are other foil papers for sale that are probably better to work with.
@oliwian21 I like using tissue foil if I want a very specific combination of colors. Also, it's suitable for box pleating models, and boxes. Usually, though, I prefer working with pure paper, rather than with tissue foil - which has a non-paper (foil) component.
I'm going to have to try that D: I've been using regular printing paper all the time, even with Satoshi Kamiya's work, and they all don't... turn out the best. ;< But with this, thank you, it makes it a lot easier.
@superglassesman2011 You can add tissue paper to one side of the foil only, if you like. This is true especially if only one side of the paper will show.
@NaykonBG Willing? Maybe. Anytime soon (in the next half a year)? Don't think so. I also haven't been in touch with Brian Chan yet, so I'm not even sure if I'd get permission.
Most arts and crafts stores hold tissue paper. In Germany they're usually sold in rectangles and folded once or twice. In England I found rolls of tissue paper.
@bonebreakboy I use that kind of glue for my double tissue. I go for an egg-white like consistency. I'm not sure what the ratio is, sorry. It differs from product to product.
@tpiardi Hum, I guess you could try. You'd have to make some really bug tissue foil, though. I haven't folded Ryujin yet, but I'd guess that something like double tissue would be more suitable. I may be wrong about that, though.
@gemadiktuz Ah, what you meant to ask is: where can you get tissue paper. :) While I haven't bought it from there, you can order tissue paper at Amazon. For example, they offer tissue paper from Pacon, I've bought other paper from Pacon and it's very high quality.
You can use it, but some spray adhesive is quite bad. Also, it is usually toxic, so you'll have to work outside. Finally, the resulting paper will probably be thicker.
@mobradovic00 Sorry, I don't know what kind of paper you exactly mean when saying tissue wrapping paper. It sounds like it will work. To be sure just try it out. :)
@marketfreshdude Three comments just for the sake of others who want to try this. 1. Not all spray glues are good for this. For example, the one by Pattex is *not* good for making tissue foil. 2. When using spray glue you'll probably get thicker tissue foil than when using white glue. There's also a higher risk of getting thicker and thinner areas if you don't spray on the glue evenly. 3. Really important!!! If you want to use spray glue for this, work outside! It's toxic.
If I sold a sheet (say 48cm square) for 50 cents, that wouldn't even cover my material costs. :p I don't think I'll ever start selling paper. But with this video hopefully you can make your own tissue foil.
I use a paper that is called here "Papel Seda" (Silk paper) also called "Papel volantín" (kite paper, because you can make kites with it). It has a really low density, it's cheap and usually comes in bright colors. I don't know about the thickness of the aluminium foil, but I bought mine in the supermarket, anyway I think thinner is better, remember that you're gonna have 3 layers of paper.
Well pretty nice Sara ... what else do you suggest to fold with this paper ? Please give me some suggestions about it and what do you recommend me to fold with foil tissue and what with double tissue ? What do you know better to fold with handmade double tissue with one of the layers made out of napkin tissue ? thanks for your attention ...
@emeryt997 Tissue, foil, masking tape, white glue, water and bowl to water down the glue, foam roller to apply the glue, glass surface - or any other surface that does not absorb water and that is flat; a roll to apply the tissue nicely
@4sonsand2dogs It's very different paper. Tissue foil you make yourself has real foil and is much stiffer than the tissue foil you can buy at origami-shop. In that the tissue foil I show how to make here is more similar to the foil paper you can buy at origami-shop. It's hard to answer your question more precisely than "depends on what you want to fold with it".
@joshovideos It will be very hard to evenly spread glue with a glue stick. Basically, you want to use a glue that you can spread evenly and thinly without adding wrinkles to the foil or tissue. Having said that, different types of glues can be used. I recommend using something that dries transparent. I know quite a few people use spray glue, but I personally don't like using it. It's toxic, and usually results in a thicker layer of glue than the method I demonstrate.
Hello Sara, thanks for the tutorial, I’m gonna have to try it out and make some models from it! I have a question and maybe you have some input: I have been looking for paper that is quite large (50x50 cm or larger), that is thick enough to hold certain folds but also not sturdy in a way that won’t allow me to create organic shapes. The model I have in mind doesn’t have a lot of small details. Would I be able to create tissue foil with two layers of foil (maybe even multiple layers of the tissue paper you used) and still have it fold well? Essentially having a pretty massive tissue foil 80 gsm is what I have in mind 😄 I guess the only way to find out is to try?😃
Hallo Sara, mich würde interessieren, welchen Kleber du benutzt hast - also ich kann mir denken, daß es sich hier um Kleister handelt, der schon fertig angerührt ist. Leider kann ich die Marke nicht erkennen. Dein Video ist wie immer super gemacht und die Idee einfach genial. Lieben Gruß Avarra
You can use any paper that you deem thin enough. You could for example also try using thin napkins, or pulling apart napkins until you have a single, thin layer.
@Kholdster Thank you for giving me the idea to get spray-on glue it makes the tissue foil so nice. I tape the tissue and foil down, then I spray the foil and take off the tape and I put it on the way AdamsSara except opposite. My first couple tries came with air bubbles but I got good at it and started making very nice paper.
Great video with a awesome idead to simply make superb origami paper :). Could you tell me some more examples of origami models with tissue foil papers?
I make a variation of tissue foil with tissue only on one side. It works very well for making dragons, as they have a lot of inside reverse folds. I used it for the snake dragon, and the wings are now silver. :) It also works very well for molding the paper. :D
in america we call it tissue paper, and it is often used to wrap clothing that is precious and needs to be cushioned and stored acid-free. Many think crepe paper is the same as tissue paper. It is not. Crepe paper is what streamers for parties, or school dances draped from the ceiling in swags. Tissue paper is also often used in gift bags poking out the top for nice color. I would think that mod podge would work as the glue, however it's not as thick as wallpaper paste, so less water is needed.
#remakeplease I know this isn't a tutorial for a specific model but I think remaking the basic Videos would be also a good Idea because only with the basics you can master the more difficult models ;)
great video doesnt look to hard.. anyway does anyone know where i can order like 30x30 origami paper on the internet?? thanks! (the green and red paper are both tissue paper right)
thats how I learned how to do it, a can is like 4 or 5 bucks at my local grocery store or walmart. one of these days I'd like to learn how to mix my own adhesive that I can just brush onto the aluminum foil cause if you do it in doors, it leaves a very permeating odor that goes everywhere in the room. But its the way I learned it and I like the results to be honest.
i do like crepe paper for paper flower making as it is easy to stretch and mold to create natural, cups and shapes found in nature. hope that helps, oh and the flowers aren't origami, the usually use glue...
@AdamsSara could it be possible to make bigger like 35x35 cm paper from kitchen foil? maybe adding another row of foild on tissue which is left unused?
I usually let double tissue dry completely, while I remove tissue foil after just a couple of minutes. The glue is mostly dry by then, as you do not need to soak through the tissue as with double tissue.
Hi Sara, This might be a stupid question =D where can I get those so called "tissue paper"? Are they sell in flowery shop or else? Which is slightly transparent? I don't know is that the same to yours, because I don't really think they're very thin.
There seems to be glue confusion! This glue is called PVA glue. Like she said at the start, this glue is used to paint onto plaster walls to help wallpaper paste stick to the plaster and is available in all diy stores in all sorts of size tubs. It is NOT wallpaper paste! Some people are using spray paper glue instead, like 3M brand " spray mount" this is easy to use, is expensive, and gets everywhere!! but is convenient.Try both, and see which you like.
Thanks for the clarification. Regarding spray adhesive: I've found most spray adhesive leads to a too thick glue layer, but performance does vary by brand and your application technique (don't overspray...).
If you're looking for the exact brand, it's Metylan Ovalit T. You could use other white glue, though, e.g. Elmer's. I haven't used spray adhesive myself, but have heard from others it doesn't work that well. Often, it results in too thick paper. By watering down white glue, you can achieve very thin, crisp sheets of tissue foil.
@Pandananner Folding from pure foil is possible, but very hard. If you have a small rip in the foil, it will extend quickly. Foil also crumbles easily and is not forgiving at all. So, yes, the paper component does change the quality of the resulting paper a lot, and is important.
@RasyidNaufal You mean the colored tissue paper? I buy that in local stores, rather than online, but it's widely available both online and in many countries.
You can find tissue paper in many craft stores. It is really quite thin and soft.The paper weight is usually around 20gsm (where office paper has 4 times that weight or more). Hope this helps.
@itsmeordadog Some stores sell tissue foil, but the manufacturing process - and the resulting paper - will be different. I'm not aware of any store that sells this kind of tissue foil.
@TheLovelypooh I don't understand your question. Why would you prepare tissue foil? It's a nice paper choice for some origami models, and you can create the colour combinations you like.
The smaller ones come from origami packs. They often have a cardboard backing, and I just kept those. The big one (shown in the double tissue video) I got in a hardware store - simply ask them to cut some press board to the size you like. I've also cut a hexagon stencil from some cardboard, and it's close enough. In the end, it's worth putting some effort into a stencil, because it will save lots of work afterwards.
If you need larger sheets, one method is to overlap the edges slightly, and then apply MC to glue the two sheets of tissue paper together. The paper will be a bit thicker on the overlap, but it seems to have worked for others. With foil I'd guess that you don't need to overlap, just ensure that there's no gap.
Some people also tape sheets together. In that case it's probably good to study the crease pattern first to determine where tape will not show in the finished model.
You can try and align two or several strips of foil exactly, or slightly overlap the stripes of foil. I believe overlapping gives better results.
I don't know, I just went to a hardware store. You should get that sort of glue at any decently sized hardware store, I think. Of course there will be other brands depending on the country...
I like spray adhesive the best.
I don't know. I'm guessing foil isn't the best choice of paper for the A Miura-ken Beauty Rose, but I could be wrong.
@xXCardsMagicXx This particular kind: not that I'm aware of. The main advantage of this technique is that you can do whatever color combination you want. If you don't have that restriction, there are other foil papers for sale that are probably better to work with.
@JTorigami Tissue paper by itself is very soft. I'm not sure what you mean by stationary paper, but I'm almost certain tissue paper is softer. :)
@oliwian21 I like using tissue foil if I want a very specific combination of colors. Also, it's suitable for box pleating models, and boxes. Usually, though, I prefer working with pure paper, rather than with tissue foil - which has a non-paper (foil) component.
I'm going to have to try that D:
I've been using regular printing paper all the time, even with Satoshi Kamiya's work, and they all don't... turn out the best. ;<
But with this, thank you, it makes it a lot easier.
@superglassesman2011 You can add tissue paper to one side of the foil only, if you like. This is true especially if only one side of the paper will show.
@NaykonBG Willing? Maybe. Anytime soon (in the next half a year)? Don't think so.
I also haven't been in touch with Brian Chan yet, so I'm not even sure if I'd get permission.
Most arts and crafts stores hold tissue paper. In Germany they're usually sold in rectangles and folded once or twice. In England I found rolls of tissue paper.
@bonebreakboy I use that kind of glue for my double tissue. I go for an egg-white like consistency. I'm not sure what the ratio is, sorry. It differs from product to product.
I think so. Best give it a try (on a small sheet is sufficient).
You can try and align them exactly, or slightly overlap the two stripes of foil. I believe overlapping gives better results.
The green and red paper are tissue paper, yes. As to where you can get larger sheets of origami paper online, try origami-shop(dot)com
@tpiardi Hum, I guess you could try. You'd have to make some really bug tissue foil, though. I haven't folded Ryujin yet, but I'd guess that something like double tissue would be more suitable. I may be wrong about that, though.
@gemadiktuz Ah, what you meant to ask is: where can you get tissue paper. :) While I haven't bought it from there, you can order tissue paper at Amazon. For example, they offer tissue paper from Pacon, I've bought other paper from Pacon and it's very high quality.
You can use it, but some spray adhesive is quite bad. Also, it is usually toxic, so you'll have to work outside. Finally, the resulting paper will probably be thicker.
@mobradovic00 Sorry, I don't know what kind of paper you exactly mean when saying tissue wrapping paper. It sounds like it will work. To be sure just try it out. :)
@marketfreshdude Three comments just for the sake of others who want to try this.
1. Not all spray glues are good for this. For example, the one by Pattex is *not* good for making tissue foil.
2. When using spray glue you'll probably get thicker tissue foil than when using white glue. There's also a higher risk of getting thicker and thinner areas if you don't spray on the glue evenly.
3. Really important!!! If you want to use spray glue for this, work outside! It's toxic.
Wow! Great Tissue Foil! I sure try to make it, if i find tissue paper. This rose is amazing. How do you think - is this foil good for Kawasaki rose?
I don't think it needs it and prefer using Tant for it.
Thank You!
@TheKize1617 Yes, although I've never tried myself. I've got some extra wide foil, and that has always been enough.
If I sold a sheet (say 48cm square) for 50 cents, that wouldn't even cover my material costs. :p
I don't think I'll ever start selling paper. But with this video hopefully you can make your own tissue foil.
I use a paper that is called here "Papel Seda" (Silk paper) also called "Papel volantín" (kite paper, because you can make kites with it). It has a really low density, it's cheap and usually comes in bright colors. I don't know about the thickness of the aluminium foil, but I bought mine in the supermarket, anyway I think thinner is better, remember that you're gonna have 3 layers of paper.
Well pretty nice Sara ... what else do you suggest to fold with this paper ? Please give me some suggestions about it and what do you recommend me to fold with foil tissue and what with double tissue ? What do you know better to fold with handmade double tissue with one of the layers made out of napkin tissue ? thanks for your attention ...
@emeryt997 Tissue, foil, masking tape, white glue, water and bowl to water down the glue, foam roller to apply the glue, glass surface - or any other surface that does not absorb water and that is flat; a roll to apply the tissue nicely
@SuperPutilin You can try, it might give a nice effect.
@Drvaxo Yes, that looks like the right paper to use.
@nikskill3223 Yes, I believe PVA glue is suitable.
@4sonsand2dogs It's very different paper. Tissue foil you make yourself has real foil and is much stiffer than the tissue foil you can buy at origami-shop. In that the tissue foil I show how to make here is more similar to the foil paper you can buy at origami-shop. It's hard to answer your question more precisely than "depends on what you want to fold with it".
Tanteidan 12 has diagrams for the rose.
@CirciSurfMusic Yes, PVA glue should work well.
@chavalow302 Diagrams are in Tanteidan Convention Book 12.
@joshovideos It will be very hard to evenly spread glue with a glue stick. Basically, you want to use a glue that you can spread evenly and thinly without adding wrinkles to the foil or tissue. Having said that, different types of glues can be used. I recommend using something that dries transparent. I know quite a few people use spray glue, but I personally don't like using it. It's toxic, and usually results in a thicker layer of glue than the method I demonstrate.
@AozoraOrigami Sure, I'm using white glue, too. ;) I just thinned it down a bit, so that the resulting paper isn't as heavy.
Hello Sara, thanks for the tutorial, I’m gonna have to try it out and make some models from it!
I have a question and maybe you have some input:
I have been looking for paper that is quite large (50x50 cm or larger), that is thick enough to hold certain folds but also not sturdy in a way that won’t allow me to create organic shapes. The model I have in mind doesn’t have a lot of small details. Would I be able to create tissue foil with two layers of foil (maybe even multiple layers of the tissue paper you used) and still have it fold well? Essentially having a pretty massive tissue foil 80 gsm is what I have in mind 😄
I guess the only way to find out is to try?😃
@3xdavid A steel ruler.
@musicalorigamiable Such mal nach Seidenpapier - das gibt's in den meisten Schreibwarenläden, manchmal auch beim Geschenkpapier.
wow what a superb tutorial, thank you!
You're welcome. :)
Hm, I contacted Brian Chan a while back asking him, but back then he didn't respond. Perhaps I should check again.
Hallo Sara,
mich würde interessieren, welchen Kleber du benutzt hast - also ich kann mir denken, daß es sich hier um Kleister handelt, der schon fertig angerührt ist. Leider kann ich die Marke nicht erkennen. Dein Video ist wie immer super gemacht und die Idee einfach genial.
Lieben Gruß
Avarra
Is there any other material that can replace tissue (such as paper, newspaper) to make tissue foil for origami?
You can use any paper that you deem thin enough. You could for example also try using thin napkins, or pulling apart napkins until you have a single, thin layer.
@Kholdster Thank you for giving me the idea to get spray-on glue it makes the tissue foil so nice. I tape the tissue and foil down, then I spray the foil and take off the tape and I put it on the way AdamsSara except opposite. My first couple tries came with air bubbles but I got good at it and started making very nice paper.
Great video with a awesome idead to simply make superb origami paper :).
Could you tell me some more examples of origami models with tissue foil papers?
I make a variation of tissue foil with tissue only on one side. It works very well for making dragons, as they have a lot of inside reverse folds. I used it for the snake dragon, and the wings are now silver. :) It also works very well for molding the paper. :D
Great video. I do this first time, i'm hope it will help me and give a lot of fun :D
Great thanks !
in america we call it tissue paper, and it is often used to wrap clothing that is precious and needs to be cushioned and stored acid-free. Many think crepe paper is the same as tissue paper. It is not. Crepe paper is what streamers for parties, or school dances draped from the ceiling in swags. Tissue paper is also often used in gift bags poking out the top for nice color. I would think that mod podge would work as the glue, however it's not as thick as wallpaper paste, so less water is needed.
@joeorigami1999 No, but the paper I'm showing you how to make is usually called tissue foil. ;)
wow thats awsome i never knew it was that easy THANK YOU very much!!!
Wait, I do use thinned down PVA, not CMC.
What kind of cutting board is this? Exelent video :) I used crepe paper and it is great for Cattleya orchid.
Where can I get the exact glue you used?
So where can I find that kind of glue?
successfully made it :) and the rose also! well the rose wasnt perfect and very hard but still!! came out great!:)
@Jonbirnil Exactly. :)
@origamieder The size of the big squares I cut in the end have a side length of 28.25cm (about 11 inches).
when I made my tissue foil I used spray on glue. (from an aerosol can) It worked perfectly.
#remakeplease I know this isn't a tutorial for a specific model but I think remaking the basic Videos would be also a good Idea because only with the basics you can master the more difficult models ;)
Thanks, I've added it to the submissions!
@bernarya Sorry, I don't think it's asking too much to watch the first couple of minutes of the video to listen me tell you want you need.
No, not really. Napkin is usually made of a very different quality of "paper".
great video doesnt look to hard..
anyway does anyone know where i can order like 30x30 origami paper on the internet?? thanks!
(the green and red paper are both tissue paper right)
No, I don't. It's a rose by Brian Chan.
If I use a spray adhesive instead, should I dilute the glue with water?
thats how I learned how to do it, a can is like 4 or 5 bucks at my local grocery store or walmart. one of these days I'd like to learn how to mix my own adhesive that I can just brush onto the aluminum foil cause if you do it in doors, it leaves a very permeating odor that goes everywhere in the room. But its the way I learned it and I like the results to be honest.
The gas is very poisonous so avoid spray copious amounts in one area
i used regular elmers glue and it worked
Where do you get your tissuepaper?
Is it better to buy tissue foil paper at origami shop or is it better to make by myself when making the ancient dragon.
i do like crepe paper for paper flower making as it is easy to stretch and mold to create natural, cups and shapes found in nature. hope that helps, oh and the flowers aren't origami, the usually use glue...
what kind of origami would you do with it?
please reply
ps. thank you for the video.
Yes, that's the brand I use.
@gimpavarra Ich benutze Metylan Ovalit T.
@AdamsSara could it be possible to make bigger like 35x35 cm paper from kitchen foil? maybe adding another row of foild on tissue which is left unused?
can you tell me where you found directions on that origami rose
I do not understand. What kind of paper is better for the most difficult origami with many folds, tissue foil or double tissue?
It depends on the model, but I'd usually go for double tissue.
Does it help to wait until the glue dries to take off the paper? (I’m using elmers glue)
I usually let double tissue dry completely, while I remove tissue foil after just a couple of minutes. The glue is mostly dry by then, as you do not need to soak through the tissue as with double tissue.
happyfolding.com - enjoy origami online but what if I thin down elmers glue with water? Any tips on that?
@@shugabrush3671 I always thin down the glue with water.
@AdamsSara Agreed, All I am saying is that like kami and probably copy paper are more common than tissue foil to use as origami paper
can i use white glue for this?
How can you make bigger paper with foil that is relatively small?
will it work if i just glue (or gluestick) the paper with foil?
Is it better to buy tissue foil paper at origami shop or is it better to make by myself?
I think you should make a tutorial on the Brian Chan rose.
thanks! I tried it and it works well!
where do you get the tissue paper? please reply
@adamssara can you just use spray adhesive to glue the paper? please respond
Hi Sara,
This might be a stupid question =D where can I get those so called "tissue paper"? Are they sell in flowery shop or else? Which is slightly transparent? I don't know is that the same to yours, because I don't really think they're very thin.
What is the size of paper you do in the video?
There seems to be glue confusion! This glue is called PVA glue. Like she said at the start, this glue is used to paint onto plaster walls to help wallpaper paste stick to the plaster and is available in all diy stores in all sorts of size tubs. It is NOT wallpaper paste!
Some people are using spray paper glue instead, like 3M brand " spray mount" this is easy to use, is expensive, and gets everywhere!! but is convenient.Try both, and see which you like.
Thanks for the clarification.
Regarding spray adhesive: I've found most spray adhesive leads to a too thick glue layer, but performance does vary by brand and your application technique (don't overspray...).
Just about any box-pleating model will profit from the characteristics of tissue foil.
@Airflaree You can use any tubes. I use pieces of PVC pipe to roll mine, and PVC is pretty cheap, you can buy around 10 feet of it for $2
Did you make the square stencils yourself? i have troubles making perfect squares :P
What kind of glue did u use? I know you can use 3m spray adhesive, but i find them quite costly.
If you're looking for the exact brand, it's Metylan Ovalit T. You could use other white glue, though, e.g. Elmer's. I haven't used spray adhesive myself, but have heard from others it doesn't work that well. Often, it results in too thick paper. By watering down white glue, you can achieve very thin, crisp sheets of tissue foil.
@FluffernutterTeddyy That is pretty much the standard white glue. Go for it.
@SMELLYOLDFEET You mean online? You can try pacon(dot)com : Paper products > Tissue - they sell sheets of 20 inch by 30 inch (approx. 51cm by 76cm)
Is this tissue paper the same I find in the gift/wrapping aisle? And what thickness works best for aluminium?
I cut my paper on a self-healing cutting mat.