Ned was leaving after he realized he just couldn't kill anymore, not so much that he didn't possess the shooting skill to do so. He only realized it once they set up on that ledge. He possessed the skill, but not the will. Or at least that was how I interpreted it.
How that's not obvious after both Little Bill and William Munny said that killing a man ain't easy is beyond me. I'd say that's one of the main themes of this film.
I was going to say the same. Remember also they had been talking about how drunk they had been back in their wild days too. Now here they were, 10 plus years out of it, with homesteads and family, lots to think about losing. Ned lost that edge. By the same token, the boy thought he had it, or wanted to. That's why he was talking big. Then he did his first killing up close and sober. It didn't sit well with him at all.
@@MitchClement-il6iq Mine, hard core: "I've killed women and children. I've killed everything that walks or crawls at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you done to "Ned.
Yes, the writer trying to glamourise the outlaws in his books and the contrast with reality of little Bill ,William Money and the rest, Clint really made a great movie.
Absolutely agree. This movie was praised for many reasons. Evoking the true spectrum of emotions of harboring resentment and not being able to forgive someone.
@@scapito Agree as well. Ned went home because he didn´t have the stomach to kill anyone anymore. It´s about remorse. Only time Munny could do it and shoot straight was when drunk, without thinking. "Always lucky when it came to killing". When it comes to this level of realism you need to watch "Open Range" or even the latest "True Grit" by the Coen Brothers. Regarding the tombstone(s). It said in the text William had long since left with his kids.
Let's not forget Tombstone! It was a year after Unforgiven... but yeah... Westerns pretty much died after the early 90's! Unless you want to count A Million Ways To Die In The West!!!!! HAHAHAAH! Funny movie!@@jca9417
Not a very controversial opinion, it is the one Clint Eastwood directed/starring film that won Best Picture..... I think most of the world agrees with you. It is like saying "I honestly think Citizen Kane is Orson Welles's masterpiece."
It’s not just a masterpiece because of Clint Eastwood. This had an excellent cast and the whole team sold the movie. That is when great movies come together. IT’s rhythm, timing and the belief that draws the audience in. Just like the movie Tombstone. Unforgiven delivered on all those elements, that sold the story and makes the viewer feel like they were their watching everything happen in real time with a vested interest on what will happen next.
Ned was still capable. He was just finished with killing. In the scroll at the end it said that William had "long since disappeared with the children". They didn't die.
This movie is a great depiction of the darkness inside a person. When Will was younger he was drunk all the time and let that darkness run rampant, Ned too. Then Will fell in love and chained that darkness up deep inside. When they killed Ned, Will started drinking again and let the darkness inside him out again. Everyone has a light side and a dark side, the one you feed is the one that controls you.
Clint has more presence than any other actor when it came to his westerns..Notice how downright scary he was at the end? His movie making is loved by Warner Bros...A low budget,strong script, mostly unknown actors, natural sets and no frills, giving you a film that makes you think, discuss and sometimes cry. Few if any other directors can do that, and act in them as well.
I had to chuckle; can't get much more unknown than Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman and Gene Hackman in the same film. Granted, you are right with the rest of the cast
@@lcln1 Don't forget Harris. Heck, even Frances Fisher and Saul Rubinek had done tons of notable work and were quite recognizable by the time this film was made. Even if you didn't know their names you had surely seen them before. But I'm sure the OP was referring to Eastwood's career over all as opposed to this film specifically.
Unforgiven won an Oscar for best picture, best director by Clint Eastwood and best supporting actor by Gene Hackman. Thank you guys great reaction excellent.
And Morgan Freeman one an Oscar (finally) for another Clint Eastwood-directed film, Million Dollar Baby. In fact, Morgan Freeman has stated that Eastwood is his favorite director.
You got the analysis totally wrong. He legit had lost his long range eye sight. He shot the guy the first time...... and then was upset he had botched it so bad because he could not see, and then was more upset that he could not follow up. He was totally down for the killing initially, more so then William. The Kid later realizes he is not a killer, that is his arc. Having Ned also realize he is not a killer would be extraneous.
The kids didn’t pass away while he was gone. In the reading at the ending scrolling across the scene it stated his wife’s mother made the trip to see her final resting place some time later but William had left with his kids already and prospered in dry goods. However I don’t know what was beside his wife’s Tombstone but it wasn’t the kids. Great reaction as always!
This movie shows Clint Eastwood's character as the retired version of all his past westerns. Classics like: A fistfull of Dollars, For a few Dollars More, and the all time classic "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" to name a few.
Guys like Clint and Mel Gibson just freaking GET IT when it comes to filmmaking. I wish more actors applied there knowledge to crafting movies themselves.
powerful movie. great reaction team. Clint sat on this film for 10 years till he reached the correct age. You should check out "The Outlaw Jose Wales" which was the precursor to this movie directed by Clint.
The classic “Misfire!” scene with the rolling dolly shot is a legend in and of itself about how cool a director Eastwood is. Hackman was supposed to pause in shock before delivering the “misfire” line, but he kept saying it immediately when action was called. After several takes, Hackman was getting incredibly frustrated with himself, and Eastwood decides to call for a break. While Hackman and the other actors were off set, Eastwood grabbed the crew he needed, and had the dolly and track laid specifically to make a rolling dolly shot close up of Hackman. When Hackman came back, saw the dolly, and Clint called “action”, the pause and “Misfire!” came naturally. Clint knew an experienced actor like Gene would naturally wait for the dolly to finish rolling in and stopping before he delivered his lines. By doing this, he got Gene in the headspace he needed without critiquing him. Eastwood learned through hard knocks on “Rawhide” how to motivate actors and how not to startle horses.
This movie is probably one of the best westerns ever made. So gritty and tough. Me and my wife watched every Best Picture winner from 1990-2020 during the pandemic and then ranked them. This movie was in the top 5 of both of our lists afterwards. Thanks for reviewing ❤
In no particular order, No Country for Old Men, Departed, Forrest Gump, Gladiator, & Unforgiven would make my top 5 with an honorable mention to Braveheart & Titanic.
Clint and Gene Hackman in the final scene was one of the best ever... notice William Munney had to get drunk before he could kill again... Lil Bill deserved everything he got.
True: Munny himself said that he doesn’t really recall because he was mostly drunk back then. Little Bill wasn’t bad, in sense. Nor a coward. He just had a different point of view to the events happening. O guess that happened a lot in the old west.
@@jakemaattanen From the perspective of someone who lives in that town, that wants law and order, Bill was perfectly justified in what he did. End of the day, they were all assassins and all there for a murder for hire. And the cowboy that tried to stop his partner and brought the extra horse for Delyla, he was the first to die. Was that justice? Were the girls justified in putting a contract out on him? He might be the only character that wasn't a shade of grey.
One of my all time classics. It´s not so much of a western than it is a study on violence. "I don´t deserve this. To die like this. I was building a house." - "Deserves got nothing to do with it." Eastwood´s controversially discussed "late work" starts right there.
"It's a hell of a thing killin' a man. You take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Gene Hackman didn't want to do the film. He was tired of being typecast in violent roles. Clint Eastwood asked him to reconsider, telling him that the script was about the effects of violence rather than the thrill and Gene Hackman won best supporting actor for the role. Also, the scene where William snatches the whiskey and starts drinking is just too good. You are so focused at the dialoge and the shock of Ned being killed that you don't even notice, simply brilliant.
37:20 "Are you telling me that they all missed?" That's the point. Will was slower but methodical, took care with his aim. The others were trying to be fast but were panicked. It showed how Will is used to violence, used to gunfire, did not panic.
Which all follows along with what Little Bill was saying about being fast versus being calm and cool under fire. Remember how nervous one of the deputies was earlier.
Great movie and review. You two need to see Clint's movie " The Outlaw Josey Wales". It is easily one of the, if not THE greatest Western ever made. It takes you on a journey and the road is littered with fantastic characters and foes that Clint comes across.
Also a great myth buster. Civil war soldiers just plain people and their never is a good side as the Union red red legs were paid assassins not righteous Union soldiers
English Bob was the wonderful Richard Harris. You knew him as Dumbledore in the first 2 Harry Potter movies before he sadly passed away at 72. Loved him!
And since you've watched this and El Torino you must watch Million Dollar Baby. Eastwood, Freeman and Hillary Swank. Another Clint Eastwood directed movie and won a lot of awards. You won't regret adding this one to your must watch list
I like how the girl that got cut up kind of smiled as the avenging angel or demon from hell rode into the darkness, very touching in a way , thanks again y’all!
This is a classic and a masterpiece. Very watchable again and again, can always pick up new little details. One thing I noticed years ago is what Asia pointed out - Ned didn't say goodbye to Sally, but the first night camping out he says he misses her. Ned doesn't talk about how he's a changed man from the old days, but he actually changed more than Will. Little Bill was just as dark inside as Will. If he had history with English Bob, it's because they were both killers in rough railroad towns. Bob was a hired assassin to kill Chinese escapees from railroad work, and we can guess Bill was a tough guy and a good shot who probably did contract killings. Then Bill gets older, ends up in Big Whiskey, and slaps a badge on because he loves the power and wails on people at any opportunity. Just a sick bastard altogether. As Will said, 'deserve has got nothin to do with it'!
Little Bill was played by Gene Hackman, Richard Harris played Bob, and Saul Rubinek played the writer. Saul was recently on the Warehouse 13 series. Gene Hackman has been in a LOT of movies. He played Lex Luthor in the original Superman movies.
I think Ned realized he didn't want any part of killing anymore. Also, I think there was only one tombstone at the end, the other looked like bushes or something. It also said in the last scene that Will Money had long before moved away with the children. Great movie and reaction. The old west was no joke.
Just an absolute classic in the Western genre, Clint always delivers & this film has more depth than what’s on the surface. Hope y’all do more westerns, & give “The Outlaw Josey Wales” a reaction…one of his best. So many great stories out there to check out. Glad y’all liked it!
Guys, I loved your reaction to this film. One of the best westerns ever. If you want to check out another Clint Eastwood westerns, have a look at his near gothic horror western, HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER. It's a masterpiece.
I love the subtlety in this movie, body language, choice of words, and the sudden grasp for the bottle out of the kids hand without saying a word yet that subtle act said sooooo much! Wow!
He left because he realized he was no longer the cold blooded killer inside and Will still had it in him. It turned out he was the one who "ain't like that no more." It turned out Will was the "Unforgiven." ("We ALL deserve it, kid.")
@@USCFlash lol!! 🤣🤣 Yup. Absolutely right; I conflated two similar lines from two different movies (not gonna tell you what the other one is 😅). The line I MEANT was, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it, kid." Thanks for catching that brain fart. 👍
This is my favorite western. It even transcends westerns and is one of my favorite movies. To replace "The Outlaw Josey Whales" as the best western, is quite an accomplishment. I can't wait to see this reaction and I hope you two enjoy it as much as I do. The excellent flavor of raw emotion and the realism is unmatched.
Clint did a superb job directing this film. To me, the whole scene at the saloon, close to the end, is one of my favorite scenes in all of cinema. I love how Munny just walks right up to and into the saloon and hardly anyone, except for at least a certain few, notices him, at first. All the while, Little Bill and his deputies are organizing a posse to go after Munny and the kid. It’s only when Munny clicks that shotgun that are all eyes on him and everyone is just quiet, including Little Bill. The absence of music, the tension, the suspense. Only just the sound of the rain and the thunder, which just makes his entrance more epic than it already is, at that point. All to be followed along with one of the best shootouts I’ve ever seen, along with one of my favorite endings put to film, as well. One of my favorite Westerns❤️ Another one of my favorite movies ever❤️
"Innocent? Innocent of what?" In those four words, you have all you need to know about Little Bill's character. This movie has some really good writing.
So glad that you two are exploring, & enjoying Westerns! If I may suggest an oldie, but a goodie to you two…? SILVERADO! Great “Hollywood Western” (Not period authentic, but fun as Hell!), with an amazing ensemble cast! Scott Glen, Kevin Klein, Danny Glover, Brian Dennehy, Linda Hunt, Jeff Goldblum, & more! Definitely a fun & good time flick! Enjoy, & happy holidays! 😁😉😃
I remember when this came out and my grandparents had it on VHS - it's one of those films that speaks to all ages and because it's Clint Eastwood it also has that meta-western element that hits hard.
Fun Fact: This was the first movie Clint Eastwood knew he wanted to direct, but he didn't want it to be the first movie he directed. This film was Eastwood's homage to Sergio Leone, who directed the spaghetti westerns that propel him to fame. So he sat on the script for a long time, directed several movies, and when he was ready he gave us this masterpiece.
At the end of the movie there was still only the one gravestone. What looked like tombstones was actually stumps. (I think) The same one he was chopping on at the start of the movie scroll. The ending scroll says that Munny (Eastwood) and his kids moved to San Francisco and started a store. Eastwood actually shot a scene, that he cut, where he gets back home and praises his son for taking care of the daughter. Y'all should watch "The Quick and the Dead". It's by no means an award-winning movie but the story is good and it's entertaining as hell. The cast has a few big actors and for the most part they do a good job.
Ned felt guilty. He almost had a panic attack after shooting the kid's horse. He wasn't up for the killing. Ned and the Schofield Kid's, guilty reactions, were a perfect contrast to Will's "deserves got nothing to do with it", reaction. The children and Will, had left, by the time his mother in law came to visit. Like it said on the screen, he probably took his family to San Francisco and prospered in dry goods.
As someone who grew up watching Clint Eastwood westerns, this movie had extra meaning that, if you had never watched the older Eastwood westerns, you might have missed. In all his previous westerns, the gunfighter was glorified. He was the hero that saved the people and brought justice to evildoers. Unforgiven is, in my mind, Eastwood's attempt at making amends for glorifying killers in his past movies. In this one, he shows the brutality and lack of humanity required to be a notorious killer of women and children. He doesn't glorify William Munny at all. Instead he reveals the monster inside, the monster that Munny had tried to run from. A brilliant movie, one of the best westerns of all time.
This movie won 4 Academy Awards: Best Editing, Best Supporting Actor (Gene Hackman - the sheriff), Best Director (Clint Eastwood) & Best Picture. The only other Western that won Best Picture is Dances With Wolves (1990).
this is a Masterpiece of the Western Genre. This abosulityl cemented Clint Eastwood as an all time goat of Westerns. Actor, Director, Producer. He's done it all.
Ned left because he couldn't bring himself to kill a man. Unlike many other movies, this movie treats killing realistically, as a horrifying thing. "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man; you take away all he has, and all he's ever going to have."
This is my favorite Clint Eastwood movie. It’s so amazing, it’s cool to see you two watch this. Clint Eastwood got his first three Academy Award nominations for this film and won the Best Director and Best Picture Oscars, while he lost Best Actor. The movie won two other Academy Awards, Gene Hackman won Best Supporting Actor and it also won Best Editing. I hope you’re doing well, please have a great rest of your weekend. Take care!
I was about 13 when me and my dad saw this in theaters. One of the best westerns i've ever seen!! When i watch it now the ending shot makes me tear up, such a dark and gritty story. Glad you guys watched it!
William Munny kept talking about how his wife had cured him of his wickedness, but in the moment when they had to shoot that young man and kill him, it was Ned who realized his wife and kids had put goodness in his heart and he couldn't kill any more. Munny did it without hesitation, though, and Ned realized he was a liability now, so he went home. He still had the skills to shoot, but no longer had the nerve. The closing words on the screen say that "William Munny had long since disappeared with the children" so no, the kids didn't die. The original closing scene that they shot had Munny returning home and being greeted by his kids, but they changed to have a closing scrawl like how the movie opened, which I like better but I guess it is more confusing. I've seen this movie so many times though, no confusion here now. Lol :) Loved y'alls reaction to this amazing movie! Y'all really got into it. Loved your discussion at the end. :)
I think you guys would love "The Outlaw Josey Wales" (1976) also. Another great western with Clint Eastwood playing a really hard guy, and it has a great cast of characters.
I liked the detail about the Colt Walker blowing up in the guy's hand. That's a real model of revolver, and they really WERE prone to blowing up. They were enormous and powerful revolvers, but they were TOO powerful. Guns are built to withstand certain pressures when fired, and if you exceed that amount, it can explode. Normally that's not a problem, but those Walkers were able to be loaded with more gunpowder than the gun could safely withstand. The design evolved, and later models (called Colt Dragoons) were scaled back in terms of power.
My favorite couple and my favorite movie. This is an absolute classic. It focused on the human point of view on living this lifestyle. It didn't glorify killing people like most westerns tend to do.
"The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", starring Clint Eastwood and Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef, might be the best western of all time. If you have not reacted to that, you really should.
Welcome Asia&BJ to probably your first "meta-western," a western about westerns. Not many films dig into the gritty details and mechanics involved to actually shoot a human being dead. Unforgiven doesn't flinch from lining up all the common tropes in its sights: exaggerated stories of legends (and victims), perfectly functioning weapons, casual killing (with zero panic) and no traumatic flashbacks. About Ned: His decision to not take the final, fatal shot on "Davey Boy" shows his decency, his conscience still intact. He just can't turn off his humanity. This detail sets up his later murder as particularly heartbreaking and powerful motivation for Munny's descent into rage. Will begins this reveal by confidently taking the Spenser rifle and putting the last bullet through the young man's gut. Only the pneumonia paused the change. Btw the ending credit scene shows only one tombstone. Look at the silhouette again -- the rightmost vertical shape is Mrs. Munny, the two smaller shapes are probably stumps. (And the ending lore talks about Munny "disappearing with his children to San Francisco.") Also, I think Bill purposely mispronounced the Duke as "duck" to keep shading him. Eastwood gave the writer a "fancy" French name "Beauchamp" (BOW-shAWHN) as there were many notable French writers at that time.
Bill was most definitely throwing shade at English Bob by calling him duck, even rubbing it it by calling him The Duck after being corrected a couple of times by Bob and Mr. Beauchamp.
41:02 Little Bill explained it while "The Duck" was in his jail, and he gave the gun to the biographer, and explained "it's hard to kill a man" you could see on all their faces when William showed up and shot the barkeep, they all panicked, and were shooting before their guns were fully raised, you could see they were scared. William was calm like a bomb, aimed and shot them all down. this is one of my all time favs. if you really like Clint's work, check out his son in "Diablo" (2015) he is a spitting image of Clint when he was in his prime back in the 70's. another great reaction! 👍
I've probably watched every Clint Eastwood western. Unforgiven brings back and ties up some of his early movies when he was a killer, but known as the man with no name! To me, this was the Man with no name finally! And one of my all time favorite movies of any and all genres!
Will is from Missourah, just like some of his earlier characters, because Missouri had a central role in the lives of many of the “outlaws” of the “old west.” Missouri actually had a statewide civil war within the US Civil war, and the state actually ended up switching sides in the national war because of the statewide war. Many the guys on the losing side of that statewide war ended up being fugitives wanted for hangable offenses, which meant they had to leave the state in a hurry and not come back. Most of them ended up as bandits, swindlers and raiders - especially after 1865 when the south lost and they could no longer work there either. So in the five decades after 1865, the “old west” moved into whichever regions had been officially organized as territories but not yet states - and these bandits, raiders and other assorted fugitives from that old statewide civil war were almost all moving right along with the process, keeping to the territories since the territories had populations to prey on but did not yet have state governments. But then in 1912, just as those soldiers from that old statewide civil war were reaching retirement age, the last of the contiguous “territories” disappeared, becoming the state of Arizona.
This is magnificent movie. You actually could see glimpses of old Will and that was terrifying man. It always intrigued what kind of woman tamed Will. And its beautifully shot how Will mourns his wife. This is one the best westerns made.
If you haven't seen any of his older westerns from the 60's like "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" which is part of a trio made in Italy starring Clint, they are great and worth checking out too. Unforgiven is one of my favorite movies in any genre. The stuff in the early trilogy could be thought of as an indication of what Will Munny's early drinkin and killin days were like. Favorite line : We've all got it coming Kid. He's right there's only one way out for any of us!
Asia and BJ, love you two. Unforgiven was a script Clint Eastwood had for a decade before. Asked why he hadn't made it yet, he replied that he wasn't old enough, yet. He knew when to strike to iron. Unforgiven won both Best Director and Best Picture in 1992. I strongly urge you two to watch Pale Rider from 1985 another Eastwood directed and started Western in which he portays his famous " Mysterious Stranger" character. Basically a Super Natural revenge machine Old West style. Hang Em High is another.
Great movie with a great cast!! So glad you enjoyed this western. Another of my favorite westerns us Forsaken from 2015 starring Donald Southerland and Keifer Sutherland.
Just helping... "He never fails to disappoint" is typically used in a derogatory/negative way. I know what you're intending to say, but figure I'd point it out in case you want to edit your comment.
"Deserves got nothing to do with it" is such a great line and the entire theme of this film. Delilah didn't deserve to be cut up. Davey didn't deserve to die for what his friend did. Ned didn't deserve to die, he didn't kill anyone. This is such a great "modern" western, and one of my favorite Eastwood films. I love the end with the contrast of him riding off into the dark, stormy night then the beautiful sunset and his wife's grave with the beautiful music. A good woman changed a bad man.
The movie is all about the realities of killing. As William Money said, "You kill a man you take away everything he has and ever will have." As many have said, Ned left because he lost the stomach to kill anymore, just like the kid did after his first kill.
I’m loving you guys. I watched this movie with my dad. He loved westerns and so do I. If you are starting to like Clint Eastwood, he is the king of westerns.
It said he and the kids disappeared, it was only rumored that he went to SF. But I agree the silhouette doesn't really look like three headstones, and there would be no rumor about him disappearing with the kids if they had head stones.
@@TheDuckofDoom. if you’re going to be that technical, no, it was “rumored” that he prospered in dry goods. It said he had disappeared “with the children”, which implies they all left to San Francisco.
I love y'all's reaction videos. I don't get to react to many things any more since I consumed so much of the movies back when VHS and Blockbuster were around. This gives me a chance to relive how great these movies were and get to experience my first times a second time.
Some other recommended Westerns to checkout: The Magnificent Seven (Original) Rosewood Silverado * Checkout that BASS LAWMAN show about the Black Man that "The Lone Ranger" - old western t.v. show was based on. 🙂
Ned realized he wasn't a killer anymore. This movie deals with myths versus reality of the old west. Notice how all the references to tall tales of what happened then you find out later what really happened and the truth isn't glamorous. Just like death isn't glamorous. The kid was in love with all the folklore and even gave himself a nickname of "Scofield Kid" with a record of having killed five men when all that was untrue. Then he finally kills someone for real and realizes it's not this dream as he thought. The reality of killing a man is not like in the books he read. He just like Ned realizes they aren't killers and in Ned's case he isn't a killer anymore. There is also the death to the idea of anybody being the good guy or the bad guy in the old west because once again as it's shown with every character even the cowboys that cut up the lady trying to show remorse after the incident. It was not a black and white world because life isn't black and white. It's actually a deep film. That's why it won Best Picture.
I've been looking forward to you guys doing this one A story of morality I take nothing from the drinking, but some things can push people over the edge
When you get older, the more you appreciate life. Will had his kids, and the ghost of his ex-wife. It took him to get drunk, and the loss of Ned for him to basically get even. Ned realized he wasn't a killer anymore. That's why he left the two. It's basically destroys a lot of western myths. It's brilliant.
The epilogue of Unforgiven reveals that Munny and his children left the farm and started a new life elsewhere (San Francisco). The postscript suggests that Munny used the money from his job to start a new life with his children. The epilogue also mentions that Munny's mother-in-law, Mrs. Ansonia Feathers, visited her daughter's grave and found that Munny and the children had disappeared. The epilogue closes with a shot of Munny standing beside his wife's grave. It's safe to awesome that that was his mother-in-law and father-inlaws graves next to his wifes.
Ned was leaving after he realized he just couldn't kill anymore, not so much that he didn't possess the shooting skill to do so. He only realized it once they set up on that ledge. He possessed the skill, but not the will. Or at least that was how I interpreted it.
How that's not obvious after both Little Bill and William Munny said that killing a man ain't easy is beyond me. I'd say that's one of the main themes of this film.
Exactly.
Purrfectly stated!
It's amazing how this younger generation is so dumb. Gotta explain the obvious.
I was going to say the same. Remember also they had been talking about how drunk they had been back in their wild days too. Now here they were, 10 plus years out of it, with homesteads and family, lots to think about losing.
Ned lost that edge.
By the same token, the boy thought he had it, or wanted to. That's why he was talking big. Then he did his first killing up close and sober. It didn't sit well with him at all.
“You just shot an unarmed man!” “He should’ve armed himself…”. Favorite line. Great reaction.
"...if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend.". You gotta include the whole sentence to get the full context for maximum effect.
@@helpfulcomrade True, but I use the line repeated online gaming or in general so adding the friend part makes no sense. Notice I added the “…”.
My favorite, it's a hell of a thing killing a man... take away ever thing he's got, or will ever have.
@@MitchClement-il6iq Mine, hard core: "I've killed women and children. I've killed everything that walks or crawls at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you done to "Ned.
And a One Armed Man also!
" well, he should have armed himself, if he's gonna decorate his saloon , with my friend"
One of the greatest lines in Cinema history.
The way this movie addresses how hard it is to kill a person really makes it different from a lot of movies. Very much an "anti-western."
I think this movie was considered a "goodbye letter" to the western genre.
Yes, the writer trying to glamourise the outlaws in his books and the contrast with reality of little Bill ,William Money and the rest, Clint really made a great movie.
Absolutely agree. This movie was praised for many reasons. Evoking the true spectrum of emotions of harboring resentment and not being able to forgive someone.
@@scapito Agree as well. Ned went home because he didn´t have the stomach to kill anyone anymore. It´s about remorse. Only time Munny could do it and shoot straight was when drunk, without thinking. "Always lucky when it came to killing".
When it comes to this level of realism you need to watch "Open Range" or even the latest "True Grit" by the Coen Brothers.
Regarding the tombstone(s). It said in the text William had long since left with his kids.
Let's not forget Tombstone! It was a year after Unforgiven... but yeah... Westerns pretty much died after the early 90's! Unless you want to count A Million Ways To Die In The West!!!!! HAHAHAAH! Funny movie!@@jca9417
I honestly think this is Eastwood's masterpiece.
Yea
Not a very controversial opinion, it is the one Clint Eastwood directed/starring film that won Best Picture..... I think most of the world agrees with you.
It is like saying "I honestly think Citizen Kane is Orson Welles's masterpiece."
@@Harkness78 some people would say one of his other Oscar winners, like Mystic River or Million Dollar Baby. No, this is the one .
It’s not just a masterpiece because of Clint Eastwood. This had an excellent cast and the whole team sold the movie. That is when great movies come together. IT’s rhythm, timing and the belief that draws the audience in. Just like the movie Tombstone. Unforgiven delivered on all those elements, that sold the story and makes the viewer feel like they were their watching everything happen in real time with a vested interest on what will happen next.
It is. Most Definitely.
Ned was still capable. He was just finished with killing.
In the scroll at the end it said that William had "long since disappeared with the children". They didn't die.
Correct. As for the other two graves in question, perhaps it was other relatives or friends of the family, or "still born" babies.
Yes, it wasn't that he couldn't do it, it was he lost heart, he didn't want to kill anymore
This movie is a great depiction of the darkness inside a person. When Will was younger he was drunk all the time and let that darkness run rampant, Ned too. Then Will fell in love and chained that darkness up deep inside. When they killed Ned, Will started drinking again and let the darkness inside him out again. Everyone has a light side and a dark side, the one you feed is the one that controls you.
The Outlaw Josey Wales and High Plains Drifter, are other great westerns that Eastwood made when he was younger. Definitely worth a watch!
Absolutely, and don't forget Pale Rider. Had to play a badass preacher.
Nothing beats The Good The Bad and The Ugly, but I do love High Plains Drifter. A Western ghost story.
Yes,High Plains Drifter ,like Pale Rider, his infamous " Mysterious Stranger " character, the Super Natural Kill Machine, lol. Great stuff.
@@richardrobbins387basically same character as High Plains Drifter, His Mysterious Stranger
For few dollars more, no question
Clint has more presence than any other actor when it came to his westerns..Notice how downright scary he was at the end? His movie making is loved by Warner Bros...A low budget,strong script, mostly unknown actors, natural sets and no frills, giving you a film that makes you think, discuss and sometimes cry. Few if any other directors can do that, and act in them as well.
He used to be loved at Warner Bros til some of the new batch of idiot executives chucked out one of his recent planned movies.
I had to chuckle; can't get much more unknown than Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman and Gene Hackman in the same film. Granted, you are right with the rest of the cast
@@lcln1 Don't forget Harris. Heck, even Frances Fisher and Saul Rubinek had done tons of notable work and were quite recognizable by the time this film was made. Even if you didn't know their names you had surely seen them before. But I'm sure the OP was referring to Eastwood's career over all as opposed to this film specifically.
Unforgiven won an Oscar for best picture, best director by Clint Eastwood and best supporting actor by Gene Hackman. Thank you guys great reaction excellent.
And Morgan Freeman one an Oscar (finally) for another Clint Eastwood-directed film, Million Dollar Baby. In fact, Morgan Freeman has stated that Eastwood is his favorite director.
It was such a outstanding movie!
Ned left because he wasnt up for the killing, not cause he couldn shoot. His conscience got to him, and that's what got him killed.
@yt45204 Nah the Bar-T boys picked him up on the trail.
You got the analysis totally wrong. He legit had lost his long range eye sight. He shot the guy the first time...... and then was upset he had botched it so bad because he could not see, and then was more upset that he could not follow up. He was totally down for the killing initially, more so then William.
The Kid later realizes he is not a killer, that is his arc. Having Ned also realize he is not a killer would be extraneous.
@@Harkness78 And he gave up after one shot even though he really wanted to do his part? Ridiculous.
@@richhenry8004And with the guy down crawling in front of them now too??? Ned lost the nerve to kill without a doubt.
I'd say he was embarassed about his "failure" and that's why he took off at least partly.
The kids didn’t pass away while he was gone. In the reading at the ending scrolling across the scene it stated his wife’s mother made the trip to see her final resting place some time later but William had left with his kids already and prospered in dry goods. However I don’t know what was beside his wife’s Tombstone but it wasn’t the kids. Great reaction as always!
This movie shows Clint Eastwood's character as the retired version of all his past westerns.
Classics like: A fistfull of Dollars, For a few Dollars More, and the all time classic "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" to name a few.
That's why he sat on the script since the 70s because knew wasn't old enough and still had lots juice for making westerns.
Guys like Clint and Mel Gibson just freaking GET IT when it comes to filmmaking. I wish more actors applied there knowledge to crafting movies themselves.
powerful movie. great reaction team. Clint sat on this film for 10 years till he reached the correct age. You should check out "The Outlaw Jose Wales" which was the precursor to this movie directed by Clint.
💯 agree, also directed by Clint
Josie Wales is the best.
I always saw this as an ending to the Man With No Name series.
I also recommend Pale Rider
@@stegwiseLove that one
The classic “Misfire!” scene with the rolling dolly shot is a legend in and of itself about how cool a director Eastwood is.
Hackman was supposed to pause in shock before delivering the “misfire” line, but he kept saying it immediately when action was called. After several takes, Hackman was getting incredibly frustrated with himself, and Eastwood decides to call for a break.
While Hackman and the other actors were off set, Eastwood grabbed the crew he needed, and had the dolly and track laid specifically to make a rolling dolly shot close up of Hackman.
When Hackman came back, saw the dolly, and Clint called “action”, the pause and “Misfire!” came naturally.
Clint knew an experienced actor like Gene would naturally wait for the dolly to finish rolling in and stopping before he delivered his lines. By doing this, he got Gene in the headspace he needed without critiquing him.
Eastwood learned through hard knocks on “Rawhide” how to motivate actors and how not to startle horses.
Clint doesn't say action
@@Jayskiallthewayski Thank you. As a former actor, I like that very much. He also doesn't do a lot of takes when filming scenes
This movie is probably one of the best westerns ever made. So gritty and tough. Me and my wife watched every Best Picture winner from 1990-2020 during the pandemic and then ranked them. This movie was in the top 5 of both of our lists afterwards. Thanks for reviewing ❤
In no particular order, No Country for Old Men, Departed, Forrest Gump, Gladiator, & Unforgiven would make my top 5 with an honorable mention to Braveheart & Titanic.
not a bad list, but I would have Shawshank, Goodfellas, and Last of Mohicans in the mix
@@art2736 The fact that Shawshank didn't win best picture still makes me mad.
@@art2736 I never get tired of watching Last of the Mohicans
@@shirak23 The Last of the Mohicans got totally screwed at the 1993 academy awards, only receiving one nomination.
Clint and Gene Hackman in the final scene was one of the best ever... notice William Munney had to get drunk before he could kill again... Lil Bill deserved everything he got.
He shot the younger Cowboy from ranged and finished him off when Ned could not, well before he ever too a drink... what are you talking about?
Umm he was drinking before noticed little Bill was still alive.
True: Munny himself said that he doesn’t really recall because he was mostly drunk back then.
Little Bill wasn’t bad, in sense. Nor a coward. He just had a different point of view to the events happening.
O guess that happened a lot in the old west.
Pale Raider wanishes in the rain…
@@jakemaattanen From the perspective of someone who lives in that town, that wants law and order, Bill was perfectly justified in what he did. End of the day, they were all assassins and all there for a murder for hire.
And the cowboy that tried to stop his partner and brought the extra horse for Delyla, he was the first to die. Was that justice? Were the girls justified in putting a contract out on him? He might be the only character that wasn't a shade of grey.
One of my all time classics. It´s not so much of a western than it is a study on violence. "I don´t deserve this. To die like this. I was building a house." - "Deserves got nothing to do with it." Eastwood´s controversially discussed "late work" starts right there.
Perfectly said.
The character of Beauchamp is such a great meta comment on how we romanticize violence, when the truth is more down and dirty.
Gene Hackman is just amazing. He can play any role convincingly. The nerdy conspiracy theorist all the way to the stone cold hard killer.
And he was hilarious in The Birdcage.
@@angelagraves865 the conservative politician confused by everything YES LMAO
Not bad at all as Secretary of Defense caught up in a love triangle either.
@@mrantdagreat Good point. Was also incredible as pissed off redneck FBI agent in Mississippi Burning
He also played Lex Luther in Superman with Christopher Reeves
"It's a hell of a thing killin' a man. You take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have."
Gene Hackman didn't want to do the film. He was tired of being typecast in violent roles. Clint Eastwood asked him to reconsider, telling him that the script was about the effects of violence rather than the thrill and Gene Hackman won best supporting actor for the role.
Also, the scene where William snatches the whiskey and starts drinking is just too good. You are so focused at the dialoge and the shock of Ned being killed that you don't even notice, simply brilliant.
That is one of the best "post-climatic" scenes in any movie.
37:20 "Are you telling me that they all missed?" That's the point. Will was slower but methodical, took care with his aim. The others were trying to be fast but were panicked. It showed how Will is used to violence, used to gunfire, did not panic.
Which all follows along with what Little Bill was saying about being fast versus being calm and cool under fire. Remember how nervous one of the deputies was earlier.
He wasn't that slow, he knew composure will prevail.
in addition to the fact that the shooters were hampered by fear
Great movie and review. You two need to see Clint's movie " The Outlaw Josey Wales". It is easily one of the, if not THE greatest Western ever made. It takes you on a journey and the road is littered with fantastic characters and foes that Clint comes across.
Ohh yes
“Outlaw Josie wells “
I agree 👵🏻👍🏻
Also a great myth buster. Civil war soldiers just plain people and their never is a good side as the Union red red legs were paid assassins not righteous Union soldiers
“We all have it coming, kid”. Best line EVER!
My favorite from this movie is the one right before it "It's a hell of a thing killing a man. Take away all hes got and all he's ever gonna have"
Mine is "You just killed an unarmed man.. Well he shoulda armed himself if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend"
Mine, too!
English Bob was the wonderful Richard Harris. You knew him as Dumbledore in the first 2 Harry Potter movies before he sadly passed away at 72. Loved him!
Also Marcus Aurelius in “Gladiator”.
That is why English Bob didn't wait around for Corky to grow a new hand. He made that mistake letting Voldemort grow a new body.
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... and "A Man Called Horse"
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257I LOVE A Man Called Horse!!!!
And since you've watched this and El Torino you must watch Million Dollar Baby. Eastwood, Freeman and Hillary Swank. Another Clint Eastwood directed movie and won a lot of awards. You won't regret adding this one to your must watch list
great movie. clint was having a renaissance
Thats too heart breaking. They need a break and first watch the Spaghetti Westerns.
Gran Torino*
A-EFFIN-MEN!!!
"Million Dollar Baby" was a hard movie to watch. I can never watch that movie again. Too intense and depressing.
I like how the girl that got cut up kind of smiled as the avenging angel or demon from hell rode into the darkness, very touching in a way , thanks again y’all!
The scene where Clint walks in the bar at the end is probably my favorite scene in any movie ever.
This is a classic and a masterpiece. Very watchable again and again, can always pick up new little details. One thing I noticed years ago is what Asia pointed out - Ned didn't say goodbye to Sally, but the first night camping out he says he misses her. Ned doesn't talk about how he's a changed man from the old days, but he actually changed more than Will.
Little Bill was just as dark inside as Will. If he had history with English Bob, it's because they were both killers in rough railroad towns. Bob was a hired assassin to kill Chinese escapees from railroad work, and we can guess Bill was a tough guy and a good shot who probably did contract killings. Then Bill gets older, ends up in Big Whiskey, and slaps a badge on because he loves the power and wails on people at any opportunity. Just a sick bastard altogether. As Will said, 'deserve has got nothin to do with it'!
Little Bill was played by Gene Hackman, Richard Harris played Bob, and Saul Rubinek played the writer. Saul was recently on the Warehouse 13 series. Gene Hackman has been in a LOT of movies. He played Lex Luthor in the original Superman movies.
I think Ned realized he didn't want any part of killing anymore. Also, I think there was only one tombstone at the end, the other looked like bushes or something. It also said in the last scene that Will Money had long before moved away with the children. Great movie and reaction. The old west was no joke.
But notice, to become the killer that William Munny was, first he had to get himself stone cold drunk before he could stomach doing the killing.
Just an absolute classic in the Western genre, Clint always delivers & this film has more depth than what’s on the surface. Hope y’all do more westerns, & give “The Outlaw Josey Wales” a reaction…one of his best. So many great stories out there to check out. Glad y’all liked it!
Excellent reaction.
Another great movie with Clint Eastwood and Gene Hackman is Absolute Power.
It is not a western, but an excellent story.
Guys, I loved your reaction to this film. One of the best westerns ever. If you want to check out another Clint Eastwood westerns, have a look at his near gothic horror western, HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER. It's a masterpiece.
I love the subtlety in this movie, body language, choice of words, and the sudden grasp for the bottle out of the kids hand without saying a word yet that subtle act said sooooo much! Wow!
His hid his grief and lost all fucks anymore😢
He left because he realized he was no longer the cold blooded killer inside and Will still had it in him. It turned out he was the one who "ain't like that no more." It turned out Will was the "Unforgiven." ("We ALL deserve it, kid.")
They all harbored the inability to forgive someone or themselves. That's why the movie was named Unforgiven.
@@scapito that's consistent with my statement.I like your expansion of it.
@OP
("We ALL deserve it, kid.")
What movie were you watching? That is never said.
@@USCFlash lol!! 🤣🤣 Yup. Absolutely right; I conflated two similar lines from two different movies (not gonna tell you what the other one is 😅). The line I MEANT was, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it, kid." Thanks for catching that brain fart. 👍
@@chetcarman3530
He never says ", "Deserve's got nothing to do with it, kid." either.
This is my favorite western. It even transcends westerns and is one of my favorite movies.
To replace "The Outlaw Josey Whales" as the best western, is quite an accomplishment. I can't wait to see this reaction and I hope you two enjoy it as much as I do. The excellent flavor of raw emotion and the realism is unmatched.
My all-time favorite actor, by far. Fav movie is The Outlaw Josie Wales!!
With Clint Eastwood now you’ve got to check out his other “classics”
1. DIRTY HARRY
2. MAGNUM FORCE
3. THE ENFORCER
he’s so cool
“He should have armed himself if he was gonna decorate his saloon with my friend….”
Love that movie.
Clint did a superb job directing this film. To me, the whole scene at the saloon, close to the end, is one of my favorite scenes in all of cinema. I love how Munny just walks right up to and into the saloon and hardly anyone, except for at least a certain few, notices him, at first. All the while, Little Bill and his deputies are organizing a posse to go after Munny and the kid. It’s only when Munny clicks that shotgun that are all eyes on him and everyone is just quiet, including Little Bill. The absence of music, the tension, the suspense. Only just the sound of the rain and the thunder, which just makes his entrance more epic than it already is, at that point. All to be followed along with one of the best shootouts I’ve ever seen, along with one of my favorite endings put to film, as well. One of my favorite Westerns❤️ Another one of my favorite movies ever❤️
"Innocent? Innocent of what?" In those four words, you have all you need to know about Little Bill's character. This movie has some really good writing.
So glad that you two are exploring, & enjoying Westerns!
If I may suggest an oldie, but a goodie to you two…?
SILVERADO!
Great “Hollywood Western” (Not period authentic, but fun as Hell!), with an amazing ensemble cast! Scott Glen, Kevin Klein, Danny Glover, Brian Dennehy, Linda Hunt, Jeff Goldblum, & more!
Definitely a fun & good time flick!
Enjoy, & happy holidays!
😁😉😃
I remember when this came out and my grandparents had it on VHS - it's one of those films that speaks to all ages and because it's Clint Eastwood it also has that meta-western element that hits hard.
Gene Hackman is a legend. Loved that man's acting and along with Morgan and Clint, pffff 😂
Fun Fact: This was the first movie Clint Eastwood knew he wanted to direct, but he didn't want it to be the first movie he directed. This film was Eastwood's homage to Sergio Leone, who directed the spaghetti westerns that propel him to fame. So he sat on the script for a long time, directed several movies, and when he was ready he gave us this masterpiece.
At the end of the movie there was still only the one gravestone. What looked like tombstones was actually stumps. (I think) The same one he was chopping on at the start of the movie scroll. The ending scroll says that Munny (Eastwood) and his kids moved to San Francisco and started a store. Eastwood actually shot a scene, that he cut, where he gets back home and praises his son for taking care of the daughter.
Y'all should watch "The Quick and the Dead". It's by no means an award-winning movie but the story is good and it's entertaining as hell. The cast has a few big actors and for the most part they do a good job.
Ned felt guilty. He almost had a panic attack after shooting the kid's horse. He wasn't up for the killing. Ned and the Schofield Kid's, guilty reactions, were a perfect contrast to Will's "deserves got nothing to do with it", reaction. The children and Will, had left, by the time his mother in law came to visit. Like it said on the screen, he probably took his family to San Francisco and prospered in dry goods.
As someone who grew up watching Clint Eastwood westerns, this movie had extra meaning that, if you had never watched the older Eastwood westerns, you might have missed. In all his previous westerns, the gunfighter was glorified. He was the hero that saved the people and brought justice to evildoers. Unforgiven is, in my mind, Eastwood's attempt at making amends for glorifying killers in his past movies. In this one, he shows the brutality and lack of humanity required to be a notorious killer of women and children. He doesn't glorify William Munny at all. Instead he reveals the monster inside, the monster that Munny had tried to run from. A brilliant movie, one of the best westerns of all time.
This movie won 4 Academy Awards: Best Editing, Best Supporting Actor (Gene Hackman - the sheriff), Best Director (Clint Eastwood) & Best Picture. The only other Western that won Best Picture is Dances With Wolves (1990).
this is a Masterpiece of the Western Genre.
This abosulityl cemented Clint Eastwood as an all time goat of Westerns. Actor, Director, Producer.
He's done it all.
Ned left because he couldn't bring himself to kill a man. Unlike many other movies, this movie treats killing realistically, as a horrifying thing. "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man; you take away all he has, and all he's ever going to have."
This is my favorite Clint Eastwood movie. It’s so amazing, it’s cool to see you two watch this. Clint Eastwood got his first three Academy Award nominations for this film and won the Best Director and Best Picture Oscars, while he lost Best Actor. The movie won two other Academy Awards, Gene Hackman won Best Supporting Actor and it also won Best Editing. I hope you’re doing well, please have a great rest of your weekend. Take care!
Ned just didn't want to kill anymore. He didn't have it in him to pull the trigger. Just like the boy found out later on after his first killed
Great reaction guys! Powerful, Oscar-winning film by Clint. P.S. his kids lived, in the ending script it says he took them to San Francisco.
I was about 13 when me and my dad saw this in theaters. One of the best westerns i've ever seen!!
When i watch it now the ending shot makes me tear up, such a dark and gritty story. Glad you guys watched it!
William Munny kept talking about how his wife had cured him of his wickedness, but in the moment when they had to shoot that young man and kill him, it was Ned who realized his wife and kids had put goodness in his heart and he couldn't kill any more. Munny did it without hesitation, though, and Ned realized he was a liability now, so he went home. He still had the skills to shoot, but no longer had the nerve.
The closing words on the screen say that "William Munny had long since disappeared with the children" so no, the kids didn't die. The original closing scene that they shot had Munny returning home and being greeted by his kids, but they changed to have a closing scrawl like how the movie opened, which I like better but I guess it is more confusing. I've seen this movie so many times though, no confusion here now. Lol :)
Loved y'alls reaction to this amazing movie! Y'all really got into it. Loved your discussion at the end. :)
“Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.” Sent shivers down my spine first time I saw it, and has stayed with me ever since
I think you guys would love "The Outlaw Josey Wales" (1976) also. Another great western with Clint Eastwood playing a really hard guy, and it has a great cast of characters.
This is a movie you watch many times. Every time it gets better.
My husband and I love this movie. Clint Eastwood is a great actor and director. Thank you
I liked the detail about the Colt Walker blowing up in the guy's hand. That's a real model of revolver, and they really WERE prone to blowing up. They were enormous and powerful revolvers, but they were TOO powerful. Guns are built to withstand certain pressures when fired, and if you exceed that amount, it can explode. Normally that's not a problem, but those Walkers were able to be loaded with more gunpowder than the gun could safely withstand. The design evolved, and later models (called Colt Dragoons) were scaled back in terms of power.
My favorite couple and my favorite movie. This is an absolute classic. It focused on the human point of view on living this lifestyle. It didn't glorify killing people like most westerns tend to do.
an all timer and makes the group of favorites, love eastwood westerns
"The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", starring Clint Eastwood and Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef, might be the best western of all time. If you have not reacted to that, you really should.
Y'all are watching one of my requests... THANK YOU. 👍💖😀☺
For western movies (if you haven’t done them), “Tombstone”, “Open Range” and “3:10 to Yuma (2007)” are a must in my opinion.
Welcome Asia&BJ to probably your first "meta-western," a western about westerns. Not many films dig into the gritty details and mechanics involved to actually shoot a human being dead.
Unforgiven doesn't flinch from lining up all the common tropes in its sights: exaggerated stories of legends (and victims), perfectly functioning weapons, casual killing (with zero panic) and no traumatic flashbacks.
About Ned:
His decision to not take the final, fatal shot on "Davey Boy" shows his decency, his conscience still intact. He just can't turn off his humanity. This detail sets up his later murder as particularly heartbreaking and powerful motivation for Munny's descent into rage. Will begins this reveal by confidently taking the Spenser rifle and putting the last bullet through the young man's gut. Only the pneumonia paused the change.
Btw the ending credit scene shows only one tombstone. Look at the silhouette again -- the rightmost vertical shape is Mrs. Munny, the two smaller shapes are probably stumps. (And the ending lore talks about Munny "disappearing with his children to San Francisco.")
Also, I think Bill purposely mispronounced the Duke as "duck" to keep shading him. Eastwood gave the writer a "fancy" French name "Beauchamp" (BOW-shAWHN) as there were many notable French writers at that time.
Bill was most definitely throwing shade at English Bob by calling him duck, even rubbing it it by calling him The Duck after being corrected a couple of times by Bob and Mr. Beauchamp.
41:02 Little Bill explained it while "The Duck" was in his jail, and he gave the gun to the biographer, and explained "it's hard to kill a man" you could see on all their faces when William showed up and shot the barkeep, they all panicked, and were shooting before their guns were fully raised, you could see they were scared. William was calm like a bomb, aimed and shot them all down. this is one of my all time favs. if you really like Clint's work, check out his son in "Diablo" (2015) he is a spitting image of Clint when he was in his prime back in the 70's. another great reaction! 👍
Three of my favorites actors in the same movie Gene Hackman Clint and Morgan. Truly great movie.
I've probably watched every Clint Eastwood western. Unforgiven brings back and ties up some of his early movies when he was a killer, but known as the man with no name! To me, this was the Man with no name finally! And one of my all time favorite movies of any and all genres!
Several huge, all time great actors in this movie as well !
"The Outlaw Josey Wales". Some of the best 1-liners of all Clint's westerns.
Will is from Missourah, just like some of his earlier characters, because Missouri had a central role in the lives of many of the “outlaws” of the “old west.”
Missouri actually had a statewide civil war within the US Civil war, and the state actually ended up switching sides in the national war because of the statewide war. Many the guys on the losing side of that statewide war ended up being fugitives wanted for hangable offenses, which meant they had to leave the state in a hurry and not come back.
Most of them ended up as bandits, swindlers and raiders - especially after 1865 when the south lost and they could no longer work there either. So in the five decades after 1865, the “old west” moved into whichever regions had been officially organized as territories but not yet states - and these bandits, raiders and other assorted fugitives from that old statewide civil war were almost all moving right along with the process, keeping to the territories since the territories had populations to prey on but did not yet have state governments.
But then in 1912, just as those soldiers from that old statewide civil war were reaching retirement age, the last of the contiguous “territories” disappeared, becoming the state of Arizona.
This is magnificent movie. You actually could see glimpses of old Will and that was terrifying man. It always intrigued what kind of woman tamed Will. And its beautifully shot how Will mourns his wife. This is one the best westerns made.
Unforgiven is the best western ever made. It addresses the reality of getting older and the gravity of taking a life. Incredible film
If you haven't seen any of his older westerns from the 60's like "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" which is part of a trio made in Italy starring Clint, they are great and worth checking out too.
Unforgiven is one of my favorite movies in any genre. The stuff in the early trilogy could be thought of as an indication of what Will Munny's early drinkin and killin days were like.
Favorite line : We've all got it coming Kid. He's right there's only one way out for any of us!
This was an amazing movie, it was the first movie that showed that there was no good versus bad in a western.
A neat old phrase that accurately describes Munny’s regression to his old ways is “He took up his aspect.”
Thanks for reacting to this.
My favorite Western. And one of my favorite films, period.
Asia and BJ, love you two. Unforgiven was a script Clint Eastwood had for a decade before. Asked why he hadn't made it yet, he replied that he wasn't old enough, yet. He knew when to strike to iron. Unforgiven won both Best Director and Best Picture in 1992. I strongly urge you two to watch Pale Rider from 1985 another Eastwood directed and started Western in which he portays his famous " Mysterious Stranger" character. Basically a Super Natural revenge machine Old West style. Hang Em High is another.
Great movie with a great cast!! So glad you enjoyed this western. Another of my favorite westerns us Forsaken from 2015 starring Donald Southerland and Keifer Sutherland.
This was so good. Clint Eastwood's westerns take you to those days.
33:40 For a movie without a complicated plot, some iconic lines perfectly delivered make it a great film.
Clint's movie formula is classic , he never fails to disappoint.
He always brings in the climactic ending.
Just helping... "He never fails to disappoint" is typically used in a derogatory/negative way. I know what you're intending to say, but figure I'd point it out in case you want to edit your comment.
@@scapito Apologies, I was very drunk on beer when I posted that....
@@barrycohen311 no need to apologize at all.
@OP
" he never fails to disappoint."
Dude, what are you talking about?
"Deserves got nothing to do with it" is such a great line and the entire theme of this film. Delilah didn't deserve to be cut up. Davey didn't deserve to die for what his friend did. Ned didn't deserve to die, he didn't kill anyone. This is such a great "modern" western, and one of my favorite Eastwood films. I love the end with the contrast of him riding off into the dark, stormy night then the beautiful sunset and his wife's grave with the beautiful music. A good woman changed a bad man.
One of my mom`s favorite movies...Mom was a big Clint Eastwood fan...R.I.P mom...Thank you both for reacting.
The movie is all about the realities of killing. As William Money said, "You kill a man you take away everything he has and ever will have." As many have said, Ned left because he lost the stomach to kill anymore, just like the kid did after his first kill.
I appreciate you all watching this movie. It’s a classic.
I’m loving you guys. I watched this movie with my dad. He loved westerns and so do I. If you are starting to like Clint Eastwood, he is the king of westerns.
The kids did not die at the end. 40:19 It even said Munny left with the kids to San Francisco. I think you just saw one grave and two large stones.
It said he and the kids disappeared, it was only rumored that he went to SF. But I agree the silhouette doesn't really look like three headstones, and there would be no rumor about him disappearing with the kids if they had head stones.
@@TheDuckofDoom. if you’re going to be that technical, no, it was “rumored” that he prospered in dry goods. It said he had disappeared “with the children”, which implies they all left to San Francisco.
I love y'all's reaction videos. I don't get to react to many things any more since I consumed so much of the movies back when VHS and Blockbuster were around. This gives me a chance to relive how great these movies were and get to experience my first times a second time.
Back in the day
Clint Eastwood was in the TV Series:
Rawhide
did your dad watch that one?? If so he’s seen a very young Clint.
I've seen this film sooo many times, and I'm embarrassed to admit that I never noticed the three tombstones at the end. Amazing catch; well-done!
"When a man is pushed past his limit, everything else is unforgiven." Right on.
Some other recommended Westerns to checkout:
The Magnificent Seven (Original)
Rosewood
Silverado
* Checkout that BASS LAWMAN show
about the Black Man that "The Lone Ranger" - old western t.v. show was based on. 🙂
“We all got it comin’, kid.”
Ned realized he wasn't a killer anymore. This movie deals with myths versus reality of the old west. Notice how all the references to tall tales of what happened then you find out later what really happened and the truth isn't glamorous. Just like death isn't glamorous. The kid was in love with all the folklore and even gave himself a nickname of "Scofield Kid" with a record of having killed five men when all that was untrue. Then he finally kills someone for real and realizes it's not this dream as he thought. The reality of killing a man is not like in the books he read. He just like Ned realizes they aren't killers and in Ned's case he isn't a killer anymore. There is also the death to the idea of anybody being the good guy or the bad guy in the old west because once again as it's shown with every character even the cowboys that cut up the lady trying to show remorse after the incident. It was not a black and white world because life isn't black and white. It's actually a deep film. That's why it won Best Picture.
I've been looking forward to you guys doing this one
A story of morality
I take nothing from the drinking, but some things can push people over the edge
When you get older, the more you appreciate life. Will had his kids, and the ghost of his ex-wife. It took him to get drunk, and the loss of Ned for him to basically get even. Ned realized he wasn't a killer anymore. That's why he left the two. It's basically destroys a lot of western myths. It's brilliant.
It’s definitely a Western for Mature Adults who have lived some life.
The epilogue of Unforgiven reveals that Munny and his children left the farm and started a new life elsewhere (San Francisco). The postscript suggests that Munny used the money from his job to start a new life with his children. The epilogue also mentions that Munny's mother-in-law, Mrs. Ansonia Feathers, visited her daughter's grave and found that Munny and the children had disappeared.
The epilogue closes with a shot of Munny standing beside his wife's grave. It's safe to awesome that that was his mother-in-law and father-inlaws graves next to his wifes.
English Bob was played by Richard Harris, the original Dumbledore for the first two Harry Potter movies