@@jtjames79 It depends whether or not you have the engineering capacity and knowledge to determine what's important and what's not. In a crash scenario, EVERY piece is important as you have no idea what was the trigger or starting point. Do the right thing, call it in.
Right thing??? He's polluting more and more of space. It falls in my yard, they want it back they can damn well pay me for it. Musk is Uber rich and doesn't pay squat for taxes. Named his new commission "D.O.G.E. just to get free publicity off his dogecoin. Do the right thing, what a joke.
Well, as long as the debris fell in the designated area, and as long as they know what happened, I don't see why not launching next month. This is all part of iterated design and testing.
@@alquinn8576 for real. Nasa the NSA I'm sure the military are all ready for starship at some point they are going to start stepping on some toes and getting some pee pee in their morning coffee
That might be one of the most important failures of the launch. If they can isolate what caused it to initially not fire they can make the entire system more robust, and they have the whole thing in tact to study which is more exciting than a RUD in my opinion.
@@LoociferZThe more impressive fact is they have enough monitoring and control to be safely able to re-ignite an engine that was already shutdown because some parameters were out of spec.
The booster catch was the star of the show. Ship having a RUD was a bummer, but at least the fireworks, and probably the data gathered, were spectacular.
There is a coal-fired power plant near me that has chimneys over 100 meters high. Sometimes I try to imagine them firing up some engines and flying into space. I bet that's what a Starship launch would look like.
if they dont clean those smoke stacks and soot builds up you might get your wish - at least when they catch fire they will be rocket engines. but pointed at China lol.
How in heck major media doesn't have Ellie as go-to for informed commentary, especially in moments like this, is confounding. @ Ellie - Scott Manley's pulled his usual wizard level magic, and found Time Data that would suggest that the FTS system activated once the Starship was veering outside of it's safe course boundaries.
All the mainstream news was about how it blew up. Nothing about all the stuff that went right and to profile. Thank you for continuing to do amazing coverage Ellie!
And, nothing about how New Glenn didn't land either. I'm 100% pro space, but Blue Origin's secretiveness is really bumming me out. They're not giving the people a reason to be excited for their things. We get one update, maybe every month, if we're lucky. Meanwhile SpaceX is every day, and if something goes wrong they're immediately "Hey, we tried this, it didn't quite work. We're going to refine/redesign/do it a different way. We'll let you see know how it goes." BlueOrigin is radio silence until they have something that they want you to know.
Well, Elon in as far as the media is concerned, aside from Trump, is “Public Enemy #1”. The media loathes anyone who fights back and goes against their political and ideological narrative. Elon, like Trump does just that and do it in such a way that they don't know how to handle it, save for attacking every success and amplifying every failure. Jeff Bezos is likely on the fence with the media as it seems that he and Trump are attempting to heal old wounds.
@@BabyMakRI guess the best analogy would be to refer back the US/USSR Space Race of the 60s and 70s… SpaceX=USA Blue Origin=USSR The Soviets were very secretive about their failings, the Americans put their failures on display for the world to see. It would appear at this stage, Bezos has decided to adopt the Soviet model, “we will show you what we want you to see”
And here's how bad it's gotten. I haven't even checked the drive-by news. They can be depended on to get the story wrong every time. They've forgotten how to fulfill their responsibility to find and give us the facts. Now it's all about how they feel about it, a subjective emotional response filtered through their PC and political filters.
@@RockinRobbins13 Yeah, I AGREE. The days of Cronkite, Huntley-Brinkley are gone and these news ppl are all filled w OPINIONS and SPECULATION. Politicians are filmed saying one thing and then filmed reversing themselves. Words like "explosion" are mythically being replaced w "RUD" to lie and undermine the seriousness of events. Vanguard and Redstone rockets blow up - it was a FAILURE!! StarShip blows up - it was a "test"!! The reporting has CERTAINLY gotten bad!!
There are new higher capacity tanks installed, which probably failed operating and engineering specifications. With each flight, SpaceX learns something new. It’s much better to discover screwups now rather when people are aboard.
Gosh, NASA in the 1960s/70s had a much better safety record. Just goes to show how private enterprise (with the government paying their bills) is so much better than a government program. For a given definition of "better".
@@johnboren8928I assume you’re being sarcastic, since people died in the Apollo development and testing process. That’s not because they were incompetent, rocket science and engineering is hard.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was just an area they were testing different thermal materials. It almost looked like the new ablative material that was in the flap area for flight 6.
Elon Musk said on x " Preliminary indication is that we had an oxygen/fuel leak in the cavity above the ship engine firewall that was large enough to build pressure in excess of the vent capacity.;"
The ultimate objective? Great fireworks and good entertainment for inauguration? Yep, that works fine. But does the Boss see Elon now as a loser when comparing to Bezos? Who gets fired? We shall see that in the next episode of Apprentice, the next generation. Don't change the channel!
But of course the haters out there seize on any unexpected outcome as proof that Elon Musk is the spawn of satan and SpaceX is a fake company unable to make successful rockets.
I love being able to click on your videos and know I'm getting a quick dose of the most up-to-date information about the stuff I'm interested in. I don't know why I haven't subscribed earlier; thanks for what you do!
Growing up in the Apollo age, I get teary-eyed watching 'science fiction' come into reality!! Apollo 11 launched when I was about 4 years old. I can remember putting my hands on the oval black and white screen when Neil Armstrong stepped onto the lunar surface. PHENOMINAL JOB SpaceX!!!
If you watch the official stream on X, you can see the fire near the aft section of the ship. Skip to 47:59, there will be a short clip from the right flap aft section. (You can also see one engine already being out). The fire can be seen coming out of the actuator/joint connecting the flap to the body.
Thanks, Ellie, for the quick update. 👍 I saw that flame in the flap hinge and wondered what had caught fire on the way up. Adding a fire suppression system inside the hull would be smart. Making the vents bigger shouldn't be difficult. Speaking of vents, I saw the the booster started spewing some flame out the side from the vent area where the booster quick connect ports are. It looked at first to be venting off some gas, then it turned into a blowtorch for a while. You, Scott Manley, and WAI are the three I turn to watch all things space related these days because you three stick to facts. Highly appreciated.
Seeing the trails of debris from the Starship in the sky was a magnificent riot of colors, very beautiful visually, and then no one got hurt. Space X will certainly learn from this misstep too. It is the history of humanity: even primitive man failed to light the torch at the first attempts.
Damn, thought I was old at 73!! Glad You were around to bring that 1st fire-lighter experience to us. No doubt there will be a year long symposium to question you on the development of mankind all along the path of history. BTW, did you notice how "beautiful" those colors were compared to those of the STS Columbia back in 2003?
I'm still not over the fact that they can manage to catch Superheavy with chopstick. A 20-story building flew up to the edge of space and came back down with pinpoint precision, and being able to slowdown to the point where it can be caught safely. Unreal.
@@ellieinspace I envy you. I watched Everyday Astronaut and he said he could feel the air from the sonic boom on landing burn. Did you feel it? And yes, it did look like it was coming in way too fast. The first time I saw it, I wasn't sure it was going to stop in time until the last seconds. And the way it titled made it look like it was going to hit the chop stick tower. It's crazy how all the corrections to land precisely happened in the last seconds.
Kudos to both SpaceX and you, Ellie, for the push for transparency. It's pretty obvious that the systems for dealing with failure worked. The videos from the public included at least one showing the explosion itself. It was not piecemeal and there is no indication of stray parts falling off prior to activation of the FTS. This is why those of us following this process feel secure about SpaceX's earnestness about safety.
I agree Doug, and don't you think this explosion could have been prevented if Elon would have been less involved with politics which acts like a distraction to the complicated issues he is facing with this rocket?
@ Elon Musk is not running SpaceX directly. His CEO, the person who actually operates the company, is Gwen Shotwell. She is undistracted by any political foolishness.
Yeah, it was a bummer, but FAR better that these issues are known and corrected before people are on it! Every RUD brings us one step closer to a truly safe spacecraft. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@elizabethbrown8833 oh for Pete’s sake the comment was getting too long already and I chose the more valuable of the two. If I had said “payload” then someone would have said “what about the PEOPLE?” LOL yes, I had that thought argument while typing. God bless you and give you PEACE.
Thank you so much for sharing all of these details and like others have mentioned, you’ve become the “go to” channel for information related to SpaceX launches! Please keep them coming!
The good partisan UK BBC are reporting starship seven as a failure . Of course they report new Glenn is an outstanding achievement. Any news from blue origin as to what happened to the launch vehicle?
7th test flight so yes a failure. New Glenns first test flight (goal was to get the rocket to orbit) so yes it's a succes when compared to fascist Elon. Elon is great at wasting $3 billion dollars of tax payers money.
Didn't really care what the second stage was going to do, the first stage was the star but WOW what an unexpectedly spectacular show from the second stage, equally as amazing to behold.
Spaceflight Now went through the conditions of what would trigger a FAA accident investigation (the one that grounds flights) and launch 7 was within all of the allotted parameters except for debris falling within the predesignated areas (which was an unknown at the time). But now that we know that ship 33 fell within that area, there shouldn't be a reason for the FAA to ground Starship according to the launch license.
What? it was a success because it blew up and the debris landed in a huge strip where it said it would? (Oh and that's more luck than design.) FAA moved the goalposts to get that large strip of "possible" danger zone" the ship was to all intents and purposes out of control, it fell down to earth on a ballistic curve, calculated to the worst case scenario. And did anyone say what about a real payload? (I am glad I was not onboard if that was a "success"
@@robba1234 No one's calling this a success. Just that in terms of a mishap investigation, test flight 7 wouldn't likely trigger one. The FAA never moved the goal post as the launch license for 7 is an extension of previous launches of Starship since it fell within the same parameters. The deviation from the intended course likely triggered the flight termination system to destroy Starship prematurely resulting in the debris.
Please remember that the Wright brothers did over 40 unpowered test flights to design the wing structure of the airplane. The first test flights were very bad but they LEARNED from each failure and got better and gained more knowledge each time. When they had the glider designed to the stage that it flew well then they added a motor and had more crashes until they learned to balance the weight of the motor. This is how flight knowledge is gained. Test and examine failure and make corrections. Test on SpaceX.
Booster catch 2-0 this time more controlled thrusters and less fire than first attempt. . . Already know the issue of the second phase, honestly the transparency and efficiency of this people from Elon Musk to all the SpaceX crew . . .This is just amazing… I hope that all these technology and advance, somehow makes soon the world a peaceful symbiotic place for all living species, essential and universal access for drinking water, power, shelter and ways of sustainable living. . . The rest it’s freedom, love (God), democracy, respect, order, work, contribution and solidarity. . .🙏🇻🇪
I may be wrong, but I believe the commentators stated that the FAA would inverstigate if any debris landed outside the hazard zone or if there were any death or injury, so since none of that happened, it's possible that they may let SpaceX do the investigation, and even if they do get involoved, it may hopefully not be drawn out excessively.
The telemetry showed a rapid decrease in CH4 vs LOX volume right after the first engine dropped its running indication. That says, "big ass leak" to me.
I think the successful recapture of the booster was worth all efforts! Simply awesome achievement! Still sad that the rocket fell victim to an explosion, though.
@@geanozz8940 FAA has no jurisdiction, not their airspace, stay in your lane FAA American companies launching anywhere in the world have to obey the FAA and get their approvals.
I think (not that anyone asked me) that SpaceX should use the extra cargo space of these empty test/prototype flights to pack that sucker full of cameras and transponders so they can get every imaginable angle of these launches. Imagine if they had a few more cameras inside the ship that captured the exact source of the leak. They’d know exactly where to look. Great job SpaceX! I’m still getting goosebumps watching these launches. You are doing amazing things and creating history. Go go go!
I think the biggest thing is the upload bandwidth for video footage. They would have to be able to recover a flight recorder to get all the footage. I think I heard somewhere they have about a 120mbps upload speed through the Starlink connection.
@ no need for a flight recorder when you stream data. The ship is designed to carry 150 tons of cargo. Pack that sucker with multiple starlinks and many dozens of cameras.
It is incredibly refreshing seeing an organization being transparent and focused on actual development instead of 'looking good'. SpaceX for the win! Can't wait until next launch!
Musk, transparent? WHTF really is this the same guy that faked the Tesla self drive video's, or the other guy who will not give tesla crash victims the data after an accident?, or is it the other guy who lied year on year for over six years about 'full self drive' it coming next year? really? Oh or could it be the guy who remotely controlled his 'robots' to impress? or the 'affordable' Tesla 10 years he has been promising that and its been shown this year, the first where sales are flat.
@@kirishima638 No success without failures. The most important thing is no one was hurt from that explosion. This semi-fail is good for future launches.
One of the most amazing thing about all of this is Space X transparancy and openess to the public. Every big company could learn a few thinks about being straight forward with the public.
Thank you Ellie for the update being short and really informative without long paid promotions and ads. I get it that some videos have to have that though
The catching of the launch vehicle showboats the utter brilliance of the Space-X engineers who are unknown to the public but should get ALL the credit for such a feat.
With debris falling outside of NOTAM area and flights having to divert and apparently a few having to declare emergency fuel. I think a launch next month is highly unlikely unless they have another v1 starship they can use and maybe refly the booster that was caught today...that would be interesting. I think the FAA grounds v2 until an investigation and satisfaction of mitigation actions going forward. My guess is v2 doesn't fly again until April. Maybe the later half of March if I'm being optimistic.
Who told you they blew up out of their notam? I haven't seen a single warning. As for the airplanes, they need to fly with safety in mind. So I imagine a bunch rerouted due to the chance of a collision.
@ NASASpaceflight on X reposting one of their journalists who quoted the FAA “A Debris Response Area is activated only if the space vehicle experiences an anomaly with debris falling outside of the identified closed aircraft hazard areas.”
Obviously there will be an investigation, but there is zero reason to believe that any debris fell outside the warning areas. Yes planes diverted, but out of an abundance of caution, as they planned on the rocket not blowing up.
Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly has to be the greatest euphemism of all time. I love it! The ascent of that booster might have been slow, but boy did it ever decelerate fast!
very interesting. Actually seems like they got a lot of flying done and probably have a very healthy data set. and sounds like they already have a clue to what caused the RUD. Hope they get back to testing without a big delay!
Actually, an explosion is a particular thing, detonation with shockwaves; what we saw could have been produced by also, say, losing attitude control, going into a spin - and then disintegrating. That’s not an explosion, that’s a breakup. - Dave Huntsman
I think S33 wanted to give us the most beautiful and magnificent fireworks of this year. It was it's way of wishing us a happy new year. I think it sent a lot of positive vibes to SpaceX. And hopes that it's little brothers achieve great feats.
The commentary just after launch (+00 : 01 : 46) got one thing right, really spot on: *_"Don't take your eyes off it, its' one heck of a light show"._* Perfect prediction. One heck of a light show.
I feel. With the testing of a new rockets you as a company like Space X ..OR ANY OTHER company..the end goal is to have a safe reliable system to count on when the missions are with human crew at that level you would want the crew to be confident..in their mission..there and get back...final goal so you should find where the problems are hiding....maybe humans will never achieved 100% safe ..but we have the best we can do going
Thank you for the quick and concise report, Ellie! I love that you are professional and update at the earliest possible time. As a side note, I really enjoyed your reaction to the booster catch, it must be an amazing sight to bring you to your knees like that. I have never regretted following you, and you are doing fantastic work. Keep it up and Happy 2025.
I was watching live and when ship telemetry stopped and control wasn’t publicly updating the situation, the broadcasters just told people “we’ll check on what’s going on” and then for several minutes the stream was just… silent. No music or reporters, just the camera eyeing booster on the tower, sitting eerily quiet and venting exhaust. The complete lack of info and everybody being too focused on whatever was happening in control to interact with the livestream at all made me genuinely worried there was a serious catastrophe, like ship’s uneven engine failures veered it off and put it on trajectory for a populated area or something. I was very relieved to hear later on that its debris went safely down in the ocean.
Good to hear the booster was caught and as for the starship, this is fast iteration. You do what you think you need to meet deadlines, get the data. Then test again and make a new iteration. One of these days I'm going to get out there and watch that booster get caught. I think they are going to get both parts of the system to land properly. I mean look at the dreamchaser for sierra space... They have only made one so far. These larger aerospace companies and entities of the government *cough* NASA *cough* take way longer and way more money to get anything in space. This is still impressive progress. Keeping in mind that many things changed on this new starship it's almost to be expected that something goes wrong. As long as the live data was captured, there is probably enough to pinpoint the issue(s). Nice update EIS
I wouldn't be too quick to criticise NASA-they did land on the Moon, after all. The "launch, crash, learn" (LCL) approach may provide entertainment, but it is a philosophy that requires deep pockets and isn't necessarily faster. Time will tell. With Starship, SpaceX isn't competing with anyone. This reusable rocket is designed to land humans on the Moon and, if ambitions hold true, eventually Mars. Elon Musk has suggested that each launch costs around $100 million. So far, seven launches have taken place, but none have achieved orbit. If the refuelling-in-space phase is reached, costs will likely rise further. The development phase is currently unmanned, which allows for the LCL approach. However, this strategy will need to change-or be abandoned-when the programme transitions to manned flights. NASA's Apollo programme serves as a relevant contrast. After the Apollo 1 tragedy, NASA adopted a methodical philosophy centred on redundancy. This approach saved several missions from potential disaster and ultimately achieved President Kennedy's challenge to "land a man on the Moon and return him safely to Earth before the end of the decade." If funding is available, iterative testing with design tweaks is certainly an option. But whether this methodology is quicker or sustainable in the long run remains to be seen. The Moon perhaps presents a "sweet spot" where the LCL philosophy might prove feasible. However, applying this method to Mars exploration is another matter entirely. Setting aside the moral considerations of potential loss of life, a Mars mission introduces enormous logistical and financial challenges. Each launch, loaded with the necessary supplies for landing and return, could cost between $1 billion and $5 billion-10 to 50 times the current estimate for Moon launches. Would investors tolerate multiple failures in such a scenario, especially when the primary goal of landing on Mars is more about advancing humanity than generating profit? People can cheer on Space X without having to be too critical of others, especially those that have achieved their goals.
Nasa would have already had a flying vehicle that doesn't cost a fortune and can only carry a banana with ZERO prospects of going to the moon as "planned" by Musk.
I greatly appreciate your *reporting* Ellie. I say reporting because it's obvious to me how hard your always working to get and (quickly) share the amount of detailed information that you do ❤ It's amazing how many changes SpaceX makes on each/every Starship = throughout it's early development they've built four times as many they've launched 🚀
If you watch the broadcast you can see the engines failing one after another. At the end there is one gimballing sea level engine and one *non gimbal* engine. The thrust would be highly off centre, but the gimballing engine could hold the ship steady. Then the last sea level gimbal engine failed. At that point the asymmetric thrust would have made the ship tumble.
It’s crazy that its showing condensation shock cones at 0:16 and again at 0:19 (even the flames look like they get their own shock cone at 0:20), and then the booster is slowed to 0 while going against gravity, and is fully caught by like 0:31
Ellie you’ve become my go to person for all things SpaceX! Thank You for this update because I was dying to hear something. Go Starship! Go ELLIE!
Aw thank you so much
I left dinner early to crank this out
Glad someone is watching 😮💨🥹
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@@ellieinspaceshe is a certified blue origin hater
Keep doing the good work Ellie, be it with successful or not-so-successful launches!
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They are going to make the booster being caught look routine now. They are just unbelievable.
I was stunned how much it looked like flight 5 with different lighting.
They are going to make it look boring...
Just like falcon 9 booster landings are not that awesome to watch as the first few that landed.
There is no point catching it. It can't just be refuelled and relaunched.
@@Withnail1969 Really? None at all?
Lol NO ONE is calling that number! I give it a day or two before Ship 33 debris shows up on ebay.
I don't care if it makes me a bad person. Unless it looked really important, If I found a piece, it's going up on my wall.
@@jtjames79 It depends whether or not you have the engineering capacity and knowledge to determine what's important and what's not. In a crash scenario, EVERY piece is important as you have no idea what was the trigger or starting point. Do the right thing, call it in.
Right thing??? He's polluting more and more of space. It falls in my yard, they want it back they can damn well pay me for it. Musk is Uber rich and doesn't pay squat for taxes. Named his new commission "D.O.G.E. just to get free publicity off his dogecoin. Do the right thing, what a joke.
Space X should return the items to the people who brought them in after their examinations.
Why not?
Well, as long as the debris fell in the designated area, and as long as they know what happened, I don't see why not launching next month. This is all part of iterated design and testing.
Amen.
Starship must fly.
Faa said hold my beer
@@michaelmicek For all people, Starship MUST fly.
@@zmblion hopefully Trump's FAA isn't as pathetic as what we have now
@@alquinn8576 for real. Nasa the NSA I'm sure the military are all ready for starship at some point they are going to start stepping on some toes and getting some pee pee in their morning coffee
The crazy thing about the boost back burn when only 12 engines were lit, when it landed that engine that had gone out was working.
That might be one of the most important failures of the launch. If they can isolate what caused it to initially not fire they can make the entire system more robust, and they have the whole thing in tact to study which is more exciting than a RUD in my opinion.
I was surprised it was fine as well. At least they have the engine to see EXACTLY what caused the problem.
💯 Was it the gently used one?
@@LoociferZThe more impressive fact is they have enough monitoring and control to be safely able to re-ignite an engine that was already shutdown because some parameters were out of spec.
@Douglas Pretty sure the pie one was on the perimiter, where it was easy to see.
The booster catch was the star of the show. Ship having a RUD was a bummer, but at least the fireworks, and probably the data gathered, were spectacular.
Are you in western Australia bob I use to live there moved it's like California
Seeing the booster launch and catch from Scott’s powerful camera made it so much more like being there in person.
Expected since they completely changed Block 2.
Dude, it blew up! It didn't disassemble itself, rapidly.
Maybe Elon should stop playing video games, or pretending too, and focus on what’s important
There is a coal-fired power plant near me that has chimneys over 100 meters high. Sometimes I try to imagine them firing up some engines and flying into space. I bet that's what a Starship launch would look like.
if they dont clean those smoke stacks and soot builds up you might get your wish - at least when they catch fire they will be rocket engines. but pointed at China lol.
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thank you for the quick update! wow.
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How in heck major media doesn't have Ellie as go-to for informed commentary, especially in moments like this, is confounding.
@ Ellie - Scott Manley's pulled his usual wizard level magic, and found Time Data that would suggest that the FTS system activated once the Starship was veering outside of it's safe course boundaries.
Thanks for the update. Seems funny "only catching the booster" isn't a big deal already.
I mean it def was fkn crazy 🎉
All the mainstream news was about how it blew up.
Nothing about all the stuff that went right and to profile.
Thank you for continuing to do amazing coverage Ellie!
And, nothing about how New Glenn didn't land either. I'm 100% pro space, but Blue Origin's secretiveness is really bumming me out. They're not giving the people a reason to be excited for their things. We get one update, maybe every month, if we're lucky. Meanwhile SpaceX is every day, and if something goes wrong they're immediately "Hey, we tried this, it didn't quite work. We're going to refine/redesign/do it a different way. We'll let you see know how it goes."
BlueOrigin is radio silence until they have something that they want you to know.
Well, Elon in as far as the media is concerned, aside from Trump, is “Public Enemy #1”. The media loathes anyone who fights back and goes against their political and ideological narrative. Elon, like Trump does just that and do it in such a way that they don't know how to handle it, save for attacking every success and amplifying every failure. Jeff Bezos is likely on the fence with the media as it seems that he and Trump are attempting to heal old wounds.
@@BabyMakRI guess the best analogy would be to refer back the US/USSR Space Race of the 60s and 70s…
SpaceX=USA
Blue Origin=USSR
The Soviets were very secretive about their failings, the Americans put their failures on display for the world to see. It would appear at this stage, Bezos has decided to adopt the Soviet model, “we will show you what we want you to see”
And here's how bad it's gotten. I haven't even checked the drive-by news. They can be depended on to get the story wrong every time. They've forgotten how to fulfill their responsibility to find and give us the facts. Now it's all about how they feel about it, a subjective emotional response filtered through their PC and political filters.
@@RockinRobbins13 Yeah, I AGREE. The days of Cronkite, Huntley-Brinkley are gone and these news ppl are all filled w OPINIONS and SPECULATION. Politicians are filmed saying one thing and then filmed reversing themselves. Words like "explosion" are mythically being replaced w "RUD" to lie and undermine the seriousness of events. Vanguard and Redstone rockets blow up - it was a FAILURE!! StarShip blows up - it was a "test"!! The reporting has CERTAINLY gotten bad!!
nice job on reporting this. you were clear, to the point and didn't ramble on like so many other will.
I appreciate that! I didn’t want to unnecessarily fluff the video
There are new higher capacity tanks installed, which probably failed operating and engineering specifications. With each flight, SpaceX learns something new. It’s much better to discover screwups now rather when people are aboard.
Gosh, NASA in the 1960s/70s had a much better safety record. Just goes to show how private enterprise (with the government paying their bills) is so much better than a government program. For a given definition of "better".
@@johnboren8928 NASA was always working with people. Also had legendary engineers.
@@johnboren8928I assume you’re being sarcastic, since people died in the Apollo development and testing process. That’s not because they were incompetent, rocket science and engineering is hard.
@@johnboren8928 Because of the failures of the 40's and 50's.
Test, test, and test again. Next time it'll be better.
Before stage separation, I noticed a suspicious piece of starship being peeled back and flapping.
That wasn't what caused it. If anything that flap might have given more air for the gases that blew up, to escape.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was just an area they were testing different thermal materials. It almost looked like the new ablative material that was in the flap area for flight 6.
Elon Musk said on x
" Preliminary indication is that we had an oxygen/fuel leak in the cavity above the ship engine firewall that was large enough to build pressure in excess of the vent capacity.;"
@@metzmatu8409I think that was before they noticed the fire inside.
@@Mark-hb5zfWe playing valheim this week or what?
Love the transparency of SpaceX…
LOL THIS TIME. Every other time, not so transparent.
@@LoociferZexample?
Yes!!!
Until there's humans onboard.
@@LoociferZ _"My source is I made it the f--k up!"_
I was actually in tears watching that booster being caught. Thanks Ellie
Chopping onions again?
And a PSA to boot. Nice job. Good to see you pulling ahead of the club.
Thank you so much
I’m trying to worm as hard as I can while I’m here and strike while the iron is hot
@@ellieinspace Kudos, It shows.
The second catch for me seems more important and I believe helps pave the way for an actual ship catch.
great comment on TH-cam !
Thanks for the update on Flight 7 Ellie.
Always!!! Thanks for watching 🥹🥰
No problem. We understand how spacex develops their rockets and have confidence that they will achieve the ultimate objectives.
What a triumph!
The ultimate objective? Great fireworks and good entertainment for inauguration? Yep, that works fine. But does the Boss see Elon now as a loser when comparing to Bezos? Who gets fired? We shall see that in the next episode of Apprentice, the next generation. Don't change the channel!
Fools are easily part with thier money . Live in space is science fiction
But of course the haters out there seize on any unexpected outcome as proof that Elon Musk is the spawn of satan and SpaceX is a fake company unable to make successful rockets.
Thanks Ellie for the quick post with the update on possible cause. Much appreciated.
My pleasure!🎉
I still get chills watching that skyscraper get caught!
Trust me, it was unreal irl
Big skyscraper hugging Flamey skyscraper
I love being able to click on your videos and know I'm getting a quick dose of the most up-to-date information about the stuff I'm interested in. I don't know why I haven't subscribed earlier; thanks for what you do!
Growing up in the Apollo age, I get teary-eyed watching 'science fiction' come into reality!! Apollo 11 launched when I was about 4 years old. I can remember putting my hands on the oval black and white screen when Neil Armstrong stepped onto the lunar surface. PHENOMINAL JOB SpaceX!!!
Literally starting the year off with a bang. RUD or not, the legends at Starbase are rocket wizards.
Very timely video. Thanks for staying up all night and getting it done!
Thanks for the update, Ellie!
Good job Ellie from a fellow space travel fan in San Antonio, TX!!
Ellie, you're the BEST!!! You're so real and just what we need for staying informed! You know how to get "right to it" every time!!!
If you watch the official stream on X, you can see the fire near the aft section of the ship. Skip to 47:59, there will be a short clip from the right flap aft section. (You can also see one engine already being out). The fire can be seen coming out of the actuator/joint connecting the flap to the body.
Thanks, Ellie, for the quick update. 👍 I saw that flame in the flap hinge and wondered what had caught fire on the way up. Adding a fire suppression system inside the hull would be smart. Making the vents bigger shouldn't be difficult. Speaking of vents, I saw the the booster started spewing some flame out the side from the vent area where the booster quick connect ports are. It looked at first to be venting off some gas, then it turned into a blowtorch for a while.
You, Scott Manley, and WAI are the three I turn to watch all things space related these days because you three stick to facts. Highly appreciated.
Thank you ship 33 for the important lessons, lets gooo ship 34 for a perfect launch and landing!!!!
Seeing the trails of debris from the Starship in the sky was a magnificent riot of colors, very beautiful visually, and then no one got hurt. Space X will certainly learn from this misstep too. It is the history of humanity: even primitive man failed to light the torch at the first attempts.
Damn, thought I was old at 73!! Glad You were around to bring that 1st fire-lighter experience to us. No doubt there will be a year long symposium to question you on the development of mankind all along the path of history. BTW, did you notice how "beautiful" those colors were compared to those of the STS Columbia back in 2003?
So fabulous to see the booster caught! Thank you for sharing their update.
You bet! That’s my job! 🥹
I'm still not over the fact that they can manage to catch Superheavy with chopstick. A 20-story building flew up to the edge of space and came back down with pinpoint precision, and being able to slowdown to the point where it can be caught safely. Unreal.
It was totally nuts in person
Looked like it was coming in wayyy too fast,, and the , perfection
@@ellieinspace I envy you. I watched Everyday Astronaut and he said he could feel the air from the sonic boom on landing burn. Did you feel it?
And yes, it did look like it was coming in way too fast. The first time I saw it, I wasn't sure it was going to stop in time until the last seconds. And the way it titled made it look like it was going to hit the chop stick tower. It's crazy how all the corrections to land precisely happened in the last seconds.
Kudos to both SpaceX and you, Ellie, for the push for transparency. It's pretty obvious that the systems for dealing with failure worked. The videos from the public included at least one showing the explosion itself. It was not piecemeal and there is no indication of stray parts falling off prior to activation of the FTS.
This is why those of us following this process feel secure about SpaceX's earnestness about safety.
It's cute (I guess) for SpaceX to call it a RUD. Everyone else should call it what is: an explosion.
It is part of the vocabulary preferred by nerds. In case you haven't noticed, Elon is the world's #1 nerd.
RUD, Doug. SpaceX is more than just a revolution in space exploration. It's a revolution in language also. Get with the program, allegedly old man!
I agree Doug, and don't you think this explosion could have been prevented if Elon would have been less involved with politics which acts like a distraction to the complicated issues he is facing with this rocket?
@ Elon Musk is not running SpaceX directly. His CEO, the person who actually operates the company, is Gwen Shotwell. She is undistracted by any political foolishness.
@@johnraaff9013 You *do* realize that there are more people than just Elon working at SpaceX. No?
My favorite Joker quote. " You can't make a omelet without breaking some eggs! "
Yeah, it was a bummer, but FAR better that these issues are known and corrected before people are on it! Every RUD brings us one step closer to a truly safe spacecraft. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Could be anything on board wake up.
@elizabethbrown8833 with all the sensors on board they will know what the problem is
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@@elizabethbrown8833 oh for Pete’s sake the comment was getting too long already and I chose the more valuable of the two. If I had said “payload” then someone would have said “what about the PEOPLE?” LOL yes, I had that thought argument while typing. God bless you and give you PEACE.
What should we expect, given that this is the first time ever going to space ?
Thank you so much for sharing all of these details and like others have mentioned, you’ve become the “go to” channel for information related to SpaceX launches!
Please keep them coming!
The good partisan UK BBC are reporting starship seven as a failure . Of course they report new Glenn is an outstanding achievement. Any news from blue origin as to what happened to the launch vehicle?
yeah , sounds like the bbc, suprised they even like bo , they normally sneer at any science.
7th test flight so yes a failure. New Glenns first test flight (goal was to get the rocket to orbit) so yes it's a succes when compared to fascist Elon.
Elon is great at wasting $3 billion dollars of tax payers money.
Thank you Ellie for this release update.
I love how you broke down the XAI01v project in your video! Can’t wait to see it skyrocket!
Thanks!
Thank you ❤️🥹
Didn't really care what the second stage was going to do, the first stage was the star but WOW what an unexpectedly spectacular show from the second stage, equally as amazing to behold.
Thanks for the update. I heard it first from you.
No problem 👍 I try to BREAK breaking news!
Thanks for getting this out so fast!
Spaceflight Now went through the conditions of what would trigger a FAA accident investigation (the one that grounds flights) and launch 7 was within all of the allotted parameters except for debris falling within the predesignated areas (which was an unknown at the time). But now that we know that ship 33 fell within that area, there shouldn't be a reason for the FAA to ground Starship according to the launch license.
What? it was a success because it blew up and the debris landed in a huge strip where it said it would? (Oh and that's more luck than design.) FAA moved the goalposts to get that large strip of "possible" danger zone" the ship was to all intents and purposes out of control, it fell down to earth on a ballistic curve, calculated to the worst case scenario. And did anyone say what about a real payload? (I am glad I was not onboard if that was a "success"
@@robba1234where is the word "success" in this post? Are you ok? You seem delusional..
@@robba1234 No one's calling this a success. Just that in terms of a mishap investigation, test flight 7 wouldn't likely trigger one. The FAA never moved the goal post as the launch license for 7 is an extension of previous launches of Starship since it fell within the same parameters. The deviation from the intended course likely triggered the flight termination system to destroy Starship prematurely resulting in the debris.
Please remember that the Wright brothers did over 40 unpowered test flights to design the wing structure of the airplane. The first test flights were very bad but they LEARNED from each failure and got better and gained more knowledge each time. When they had the glider designed to the stage that it flew well then they added a motor and had more crashes until they learned to balance the weight of the motor. This is how flight knowledge is gained. Test and examine failure and make corrections. Test on SpaceX.
Today computer could help shorten the test cycles significantly.
Excellent example
It's not as if we don't know how to build and launch rockets now. We've been doing it for ~70 years. The Wrights started from scratch.
Congrats fellow XAI01v holders, thanks for vid Dave
WOW, you are quick with the updates! Thank you for caring so much.
Booster catch 2-0 this time more controlled thrusters and less fire than first attempt. . . Already know the issue of the second phase, honestly the transparency and efficiency of this people from Elon Musk to all the SpaceX crew . . .This is just amazing… I hope that all these technology and advance, somehow makes soon the world a peaceful symbiotic place for all living species, essential and universal access for drinking water, power, shelter and ways of sustainable living. . . The rest it’s freedom, love (God), democracy, respect, order, work, contribution and solidarity. . .🙏🇻🇪
Thanks for the update. We were watching from the park and yes it was something to see, hear, and feel!
Thanks Ellie n thank you Elon for his honest update ❤❤
I may be wrong, but I believe the commentators stated that the FAA would inverstigate if any debris landed outside the hazard zone or if there were any death or injury, so since none of that happened, it's possible that they may let SpaceX do the investigation, and even if they do get involoved, it may hopefully not be drawn out excessively.
The telemetry showed a rapid decrease in CH4 vs LOX volume right after the first engine dropped its running indication. That says, "big ass leak" to me.
I think the successful recapture of the booster was worth all efforts! Simply awesome achievement!
Still sad that the rocket fell victim to an explosion, though.
Can't believe I almost missed out on Solana and XAI01v! Thanks you!
Thank you very much for directly coming to the point instead of extending the video to eternity! 👍
The FAA’s gonna have a fun second half of this month with both New Glenn’s failed landing and now IFT-7
They will need to fix their staffing problem
FAA will need to be careful as to how much they want to pursue SpaceX about this or attempt to revoke launch licenses. Don't get political this time.
FAA has no jurisdiction, not their airspace, stay in your lane FAA
@@geanozz8940 FAA has no jurisdiction, not their airspace, stay in your lane FAA
American companies launching anywhere in the world have to obey the FAA and get their approvals.
@@Scanner9631 the RUD wasn’t in American airspace and certainly didn’t endanger anyone on the ground on US soil
Well done once again Ellie! Very informative and contemporary.
Bummer indeed but a great catch
Hey it was the 1st flight of the Block 2 Starship, the odds of everything going perfectly were astronomical.
Im just amazed looking at that RUD footage, it feels so surreal and like im not supposed to see it.
I think (not that anyone asked me) that SpaceX should use the extra cargo space of these empty test/prototype flights to pack that sucker full of cameras and transponders so they can get every imaginable angle of these launches. Imagine if they had a few more cameras inside the ship that captured the exact source of the leak. They’d know exactly where to look.
Great job SpaceX! I’m still getting goosebumps watching these launches. You are doing amazing things and creating history. Go go go!
I think the biggest thing is the upload bandwidth for video footage. They would have to be able to recover a flight recorder to get all the footage. I think I heard somewhere they have about a 120mbps upload speed through the Starlink connection.
There were over 30 cameras on this flight. Remains to be see how much data was recovered.
@ no need for a flight recorder when you stream data. The ship is designed to carry 150 tons of cargo. Pack that sucker with multiple starlinks and many dozens of cameras.
It is incredibly refreshing seeing an organization being transparent and focused on actual development instead of 'looking good'. SpaceX for the win! Can't wait until next launch!
Musk, transparent? WHTF really is this the same guy that faked the Tesla self drive video's, or the other guy who will not give tesla crash victims the data after an accident?, or is it the other guy who lied year on year for over six years about 'full self drive' it coming next year? really? Oh or could it be the guy who remotely controlled his 'robots' to impress? or the 'affordable' Tesla 10 years he has been promising that and its been shown this year, the first where sales are flat.
Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly == It blew up !
CONGRATULATIONS SpaceX!!!!!!!
Erm Starship exploded.
@@kirishima638 No success without failures. The most important thing is no one was hurt from that explosion. This semi-fail is good for future launches.
Yeah, I always hope for fireworks!
Catastrophic
Rapid
Unplanned
Disassembly
Let’s not shortchange those hardworking “engineers” over at ‘Splosions R Us.
Thanks Ellie!! Good report , and watching that catch was crazy !!!😅
Guessing a line or something broke that caused a leak in fuel?
One of the most amazing thing about all of this is Space X transparancy and openess to the public. Every big company could learn a few thinks about being straight forward with the public.
Go Starship 8!
Thank you Ellie for the update being short and really informative without long paid promotions and ads. I get it that some videos have to have that though
Excellent Ellie.
You have to crack a few eggs to make an omlet. GO MUSK
Lo vimos sobre Cuba, Camagüey
The catching of the launch vehicle showboats the utter brilliance of the Space-X engineers who are unknown to the public but should get ALL the credit for such a feat.
With debris falling outside of NOTAM area and flights having to divert and apparently a few having to declare emergency fuel. I think a launch next month is highly unlikely unless they have another v1 starship they can use and maybe refly the booster that was caught today...that would be interesting. I think the FAA grounds v2 until an investigation and satisfaction of mitigation actions going forward. My guess is v2 doesn't fly again until April. Maybe the later half of March if I'm being optimistic.
The FAA has dropped the ball in issuing some of these launch licenses.
Who told you they blew up out of their notam? I haven't seen a single warning.
As for the airplanes, they need to fly with safety in mind. So I imagine a bunch rerouted due to the chance of a collision.
@ NASASpaceflight on X reposting one of their journalists who quoted the FAA “A Debris Response Area is activated only if the space vehicle experiences an anomaly with debris falling outside of the identified closed aircraft hazard areas.”
Obviously there will be an investigation, but there is zero reason to believe that any debris fell outside the warning areas. Yes planes diverted, but out of an abundance of caution, as they planned on the rocket not blowing up.
This has been amended since you posted. The debris landed within the NOTAM. They weren't aware at the time of the post.
Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly has to be the greatest euphemism of all time. I love it!
The ascent of that booster might have been slow, but boy did it ever decelerate fast!
very interesting. Actually seems like they got a lot of flying done and probably have a very healthy data set. and sounds like they already have a clue to what caused the RUD. Hope they get back to testing without a big delay!
Thanks for the update.
Why not call it what it is? Starship 7 exploded.
@@missaneido7417 nah just an unplanned fireworks show for our island friends XD.
Actually, an explosion is a particular thing, detonation with shockwaves; what we saw could have been produced by also, say, losing attitude control, going into a spin - and then disintegrating. That’s not an explosion, that’s a breakup. - Dave Huntsman
@@dphuntsmanSo that would be a SUD because it would pretty slow. 😂
Looking forward to watching and cheering on the next launch - Well done boys & girls!
I think S33 wanted to give us the most beautiful and magnificent fireworks of this year. It was it's way of wishing us a happy new year. I think it sent a lot of positive vibes to SpaceX. And hopes that it's little brothers achieve great feats.
The commentary just after launch (+00 : 01 : 46) got one thing right, really spot on:
*_"Don't take your eyes off it, its' one heck of a light show"._*
Perfect prediction. One heck of a light show.
Just watched the Lex Fridman podcast with Elon Musk, and now I’m even more excited about XAI01v!
I feel. With the testing of a new rockets you as a company like Space X ..OR ANY OTHER company..the end goal is to have a safe reliable system to count on when the missions are with human crew at that level you would want the crew to be confident..in their mission..there and get back...final goal so you should find where the problems are hiding....maybe humans will never achieved 100% safe ..but we have the best we can do going
I always cringe when I hear people use RUD in a non-ironic way.
And why not just use the good old word "Explosion" instead, as that gets right to the point and says it like it is without all the B.S.
IBU - It Blew Up
Thank you for the quick and concise report, Ellie! I love that you are professional and update at the earliest possible time. As a side note, I really enjoyed your reaction to the booster catch, it must be an amazing sight to bring you to your knees like that. I have never regretted following you, and you are doing fantastic work. Keep it up and Happy 2025.
I was watching live and when ship telemetry stopped and control wasn’t publicly updating the situation, the broadcasters just told people “we’ll check on what’s going on” and then for several minutes the stream was just… silent. No music or reporters, just the camera eyeing booster on the tower, sitting eerily quiet and venting exhaust. The complete lack of info and everybody being too focused on whatever was happening in control to interact with the livestream at all made me genuinely worried there was a serious catastrophe, like ship’s uneven engine failures veered it off and put it on trajectory for a populated area or something. I was very relieved to hear later on that its debris went safely down in the ocean.
Thanks for the quick update!
i don't even give a sh't about the explosion. that booster landing was epic
Good to hear the booster was caught and as for the starship, this is fast iteration. You do what you think you need to meet deadlines, get the data. Then test again and make a new iteration. One of these days I'm going to get out there and watch that booster get caught. I think they are going to get both parts of the system to land properly. I mean look at the dreamchaser for sierra space... They have only made one so far. These larger aerospace companies and entities of the government *cough* NASA *cough* take way longer and way more money to get anything in space. This is still impressive progress. Keeping in mind that many things changed on this new starship it's almost to be expected that something goes wrong. As long as the live data was captured, there is probably enough to pinpoint the issue(s). Nice update EIS
NASA would analyze for 6 months, think about it for another 6 months, than redesign for 6 months..... SpaceX ,Put a bigger vent and fly next month 🤯
Bahahaha
I wouldn't be too quick to criticise NASA-they did land on the Moon, after all.
The "launch, crash, learn" (LCL) approach may provide entertainment, but it is a philosophy that requires deep pockets and isn't necessarily faster. Time will tell.
With Starship, SpaceX isn't competing with anyone. This reusable rocket is designed to land humans on the Moon and, if ambitions hold true, eventually Mars.
Elon Musk has suggested that each launch costs around $100 million. So far, seven launches have taken place, but none have achieved orbit. If the refuelling-in-space phase is reached, costs will likely rise further.
The development phase is currently unmanned, which allows for the LCL approach. However, this strategy will need to change-or be abandoned-when the programme transitions to manned flights.
NASA's Apollo programme serves as a relevant contrast. After the Apollo 1 tragedy, NASA adopted a methodical philosophy centred on redundancy. This approach saved several missions from potential disaster and ultimately achieved President Kennedy's challenge to "land a man on the Moon and return him safely to Earth before the end of the decade."
If funding is available, iterative testing with design tweaks is certainly an option. But whether this methodology is quicker or sustainable in the long run remains to be seen.
The Moon perhaps presents a "sweet spot" where the LCL philosophy might prove feasible. However, applying this method to Mars exploration is another matter entirely.
Setting aside the moral considerations of potential loss of life, a Mars mission introduces enormous logistical and financial challenges. Each launch, loaded with the necessary supplies for landing and return, could cost between $1 billion and $5 billion-10 to 50 times the current estimate for Moon launches. Would investors tolerate multiple failures in such a scenario, especially when the primary goal of landing on Mars is more about advancing humanity than generating profit?
People can cheer on Space X without having to be too critical of others, especially those that have achieved their goals.
Nasa would have already had a flying vehicle that doesn't cost a fortune and can only carry a banana with ZERO prospects of going to the moon as "planned" by Musk.
@@davidlong1786are you referring to SLS? Blah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Here's your sign. 😂😂😂
NASA could never do Starship. The era they could do that is over.
I greatly appreciate your *reporting* Ellie.
I say reporting because it's obvious to me how hard your always working to get and (quickly) share the amount of detailed information that you do ❤
It's amazing how many changes SpaceX makes on each/every Starship = throughout it's early development they've built four times as many they've launched 🚀
If you watch the broadcast you can see the engines failing one after another.
At the end there is one gimballing sea level engine and one *non gimbal* engine.
The thrust would be highly off centre, but the gimballing engine could hold the ship steady.
Then the last sea level gimbal engine failed. At that point the asymmetric thrust would have made the ship tumble.
It’s crazy that its showing condensation shock cones at 0:16 and again at 0:19 (even the flames look like they get their own shock cone at 0:20), and then the booster is slowed to 0 while going against gravity, and is fully caught by like 0:31
Catching a booster for the second time is the biggest takeaway from this flight!
Oh and thanks for the update Ellie
You are so welcome!
🙏 thanks for the update🤔🚀🚀🚀