a little information for people who are watching this. On 20 June 2020, she wrote a mail regarding the concern about her weight loss. She wrote that her heart is not as strong as she thought (which means that she feels sad reading all those comments) and promise that she will work hard to increase her weight. She also said that she's actually eating well, but because people complained on why she only post food photos so she stopped uploading them. Now, around 2 days ago, she wrote a mail saying that she is working hard to eat 4 meals a day and that she has gain 0.4 kg. She also stated that she is working on gaining more muscles and weights. So i hope to anyone that read this, please don't complain about her weight anymore 😔. She is working very hard to gain more 💗
Coming from someone who has an eating disorder you should never listen to the person themselves. They are essentially addicted to being thin, addicts will always lie. If she was trying, trust me it would show quickly, but it has been a year and she is still painfully thin. Calling them out helps them, if you just pretend the problem doesn’t exist it will only get worse for them.
@@NoctLightCloud that what I've said before that it depends on each person. maybe for you that gain weight fast, those 0.4 kg is "nothing more". but for her, it's very good, and my comment above are months ago, her weight might gain even more🤷♀️
wtf people literally complained at everything including her posting food pictures? she just wants fans to not be worried bcs she's actually eating well despite her sudden weightloss. and some people don't understand that pressuring someone to gain weight is just as bad as pressuring someone to lose weight. its not easy for some people😢
@@pedrohussay9500 She is tho stop being so ignorant. She's a short person so her requirement weight for her bmi is much lower than more than half their members who are taller
On a livestream recently Hitomi mentioned that she didn't feel that great physically and wanted to gain weight. It's also worth mentioning that during fiesta promotions she wasn't eating with the rest of the girls, and tended to sit around with heat packs and blankets afaik. In terms of Magazine interviews, in 2019 she said she really mostly eats vegetables and yogurt and she was jealous of Hyewon being able to eat a lot without gaining. The AKB48 members also said Hitomi diets the hardest, and other IZONE members mentioned the fact that they were concerned for her weight. . . so yeah she's not eating a ton and just exercising like some people keep trying to say.
Wow, people really think Japanese people are ugly? I am always so in awe of how naturally pretty they are. They don’t need plastic surgery. When I went to Japan, most of the girls were so so pretty.
You can tell the other members are worried, just by how they were encouraging her to eat more. She’s lucky to have such good friends. I hope she gets the help she needs with her weight before it causes her serious medical issues.
M Depends on what you mean by “ok.” It’s definitely legal. It’s a pretty dick thing to do, though, but I understand that not everyone shares my values.
KaraKara i’m sure they meant morally, its never really a good idea to bring someone’s weight into the discussion of “being concerned for their health” and such unless its for their own good (on the brink of death). even if that was the case, they shouldn’t bash and disrepect them because of it either. or at least, that’s how i interpreted what they said.
M M im starting to wonder why i ever watched these kind of videos in the first place (other than this one bc this one is actually being done by someone cultured after i watched the whole video) 😳 i went into this video from recommendations and wanted to see if the the comment section would be ignoring this issue as always, but glad to see this is finally being brought up in these kind of videos :/ its ok to be concerned but constantly commenting on someone’s body or bringing it to their attention when they probably already know is just going to make them feel even worse about it. especially since what the person chooses to do to their body is ultimately their choice, and it’s also their choice to decide for themselves to be healthy in their own way. and yes, we can definitely be concerned without bringing up someone’s body.
i think she’s trying really hard to loose the fat in her cheeks (but it’s adorable) maybe she doesn’t want to seem cute anymore and more like a woman? idk i hope it’s nothing serious
I have a feeling that that's what's going on or part of it. She's trying to achieve a more mature look...but I think her cheeks are just her destiny. I've accepted mine
Alice the Western entertainment industry obviously has its faults rightfully criticizing the Korean industry has nothing to do with racism....like at all...when idols are starving themselves, not dating and getting severely overworked of course people are going to point it out.....knetz are disgusting and are murderers in my eyes after what happened to sulli they should have all the criticism in the world
Alice exactly! They’re such hypocrites. The only difference is the beauty standards. Whereas Asia wants slim skinny figures, westerners want hourglass figures. Here in America, I see people criticizing celebrities if they don’t have that perfect hourglass and then they go get plastic surgery on their body (Brazilian butt lift, breast implants, tummy tuck, lip fillers, etc) to fit the beauty standard but then people just criticize them for getting plastic surgery. It’s a cruel cycle. Every A rank celebrity in America is sexualized. The most recent one is Billie Eliesh, quickly rose to fame when she turned 18 and showed her body. Westerners are no better, they are the same.
squid i’ve been saying this for so long. international fans always try to say they’re better than korean fans, but theres are also horrible “fans” internationally and also amazing, positive fans in korea too!
Soooo... is no one in the comment section going to discuss the racism and prejudice going on between Korea and Japan? Like, holy shit some of those comments were uncomfortable to read... Edit: And wtf to the Western fans, too.
I'm Japanese and there actually never was that much hatred against Korea before in Japan (at least for most people) and K-Media was a big thing even before it was aknowledged by the world. Then in these few years the amount of boycotting against Japan grew so much in Korea especially in political ways. Then the "Takeshima Problem" happened and the Japanese started hate against Korea as if they are fighting back. Which probably is the reason why the Korean artists and shows have a hard time being Japanese-friendly eventhough there's much support from Japanese fans. Really sad as to see the two countries having a hard time as a Japanese K-POP fan :,(
@@helen241 Yeah, unfortunately I can't disagree to that either. I know it might sound like an excuse but those were the kind of things the old generation(like the people who's been through WW2) would do and the younger ones were definitely starting to change. Historical education becoming really fair and both sided was a big thing. Also, as I said, K-Media trending made Korea really familiar to us. The "Takeshima Problem" was a really big turning point to make the young ones start hating Korean culture. The big concern I have about Hiichan's problem is that in Japan, we barely see any TV shows dissing Korea in any ways whatsoever. If by any chance there is, a lot of people would go against it. And that kind of spirit seems to be missing in Korea if you see this video...
Why bother? Those haters just want to get some attention.. not to mentioned most of them feel overproud of their own race, and looking down to others.. Usually the ugliest has the most hate 😊
People don't get that the reason why idols get really exicted to eat when doing tv show appearances is because they don't eat or go on diets during their personal time or at home. I started to notice that might be the reason groups like izone and twice get really excited when there's food involved in a variety show
I remember someone saying that staff restricted the amount of food the idols can get from the cafeteria at JYP, so when they can eat at reality shows it makes sense that they're excited... It's really sad
I feel like people dont talk about how true what Jurina and Sakura were saying when everyone was talking shit about the Japanese trainees and how they straight up said it pissed them off when they talked down and made fun of all the japanese girls. The show blatantly ignored and disregarded the japanese trainees by not having interpreters or anyone who could even speak the language and were basically like "Learn korean without a teacher or who cares" as if these girls had any way of understanding what was going on. And half the time it was worse because they didn't understand some teachers were calling them names and thats why a whole bunch of the trainees left early. Did anyone else notice how a bunch of the japanese trainees magically disappeared after the first evaluations? Because they were being bullied and degraded by everyone there and felt they needed to leave because it was embarrassing as fuck. The whole show was a waste to even include the Japanese girls when they refused to even acknowledge or respect most of them.
Omg I couldn’t agree more! I watched the show and I just felt bad for the Japanese girls. Like first off Japanese idols are way different than Korean idols. Like they said on the show the Japanese just care about making fans happy and they are suppose to have fun in their performance but in Korea it’s about perfection. So I noticed after the auditions were over and they started training like a bunch of Japanese girls were gone. Plus it made me upset how much they were being degraded and how they were held to a standard the same way as a Korean trainee when they don’t understand that the Japanese were trained differently. It makes me so mad and I feel so bad for all of them!
@@shysnow8 exactly there were what seemed like atleast 40 Japanese trainees and magically after they all got into rankings there were like 20 if that. And that already doesnt make sense with how the show is set up where all the trainees are chosen prior and scored so why did they bring all the Japanese trainees onto the show to laugh at them, tell them they are shit at performing and then all of them leave? Not to mention when there were actually good Japanese contestants they acted as if they sucked? Jurina literally KILLED her part and had confidence and really performed beautifully but they made up things saying she was stiff and such when she literally did so well. And then tried to make it seem like Jurina and Sakura were super rivals and had Sakura win to make Jurina look like she sucked and act like oh wow these japanese girls cant do much can they? I love Sakura but Jurina literally did all the things they praised Sakura for but they wanted to belittle the girl who was highest ranked in the entirety of Japanese contestants and make it seem like Japanese people must be crazy for thinking any of them had talent? Idk the whole thing was super fishy to me and felt like such a slap in the face and as I said Sakura and Jurina LITERALLY said it was pissing them off and were literally saying that it wasnt fair and they were being disrespectful and belittling those girls. Its was like Korea being a Dick to Japan through little girls because both countries have issues with eachother.
BabyGirlAri173 yes this is so true! Like a lot of those Japanese girls had talent and the ones they said sucked actually weren’t bad. Like on the first episode when I saw the ones who got F’s and D’s I thought their performances were cute and it was very Japanese style. Cause it’s not about being perfect it’s about having fun and being cute and playful. Like they weren’t terrible it’s just that the style is different. Plus Jurina is super talented and she was one of my favorites. I felt really bad for her cause it seemed like they just favored Sakura. I think she is wonderful but I think she was being favored way too much and idk why. Many of the other contestants were just as talented and pretty as Sakura.
@@shysnow8 I must say that I am not at all familiar with the k-pop industry and only watched the whole thing because of the Japanese girls. Anyways it really seemed to me as if they brought in a lot of "debut-ready" Korean girls but a lot of inexperienced japanese trainees/members of the AKB and sister groups, they only sprinkled in a few very popular ones like sakura or jurina to make it seem legit as well as get more viewers because of their fan base. At least that's the feeling I got, feel free to change my mind since I'm not familiar with this kind of show at all :)
Cakepoppi You made some good points. They did only bring in popular girls like Jurina and Sakura to seem legit but they brought in a lot of Japanese girls who already debuted but they weren’t huge names and were still inexperienced compared to Sakura or Jurina. Some have maybe been there just as long as them but are in the back usually. The Japanese and Koreans train very differently from one another. Some of the Japanese talked about how they have been in their group for 6 years or something like that and they were never in the center and were always in the back. A lot of those Japanese girls had experience and they came to Korea to get a chance to be bigger. Or they wanted to try something new. Idk the history for all of them but for sure all of them have debuted already and were in a J-Pop group.
tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work. welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates. I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
@@cloud761 yeah, like, she's so cute and charming, and her voice is so dream-like. And this may sound very childish, but I believe that if Hitomi looks comfortable and happy with herself, everyone will also be happy and comfortable with her.
My opinion: The overall concept of produce48 was flawed. The word "Idol" has different meanings in Japan and Korea. Japanese idols are mainly concerned with entertaining their fans, they don't have to be perfect like a Korean idol. Those girls were self taught and learnt from their seniors in the same industry, that's why Hitomi's cheeks were considered "cute". I'm afraid she's struggling to find a place in this cut-throat industry where perfection is all that matters. Makes me glad IZ*ONE is a temporary group and she has no obligation to join the KPop industry as an idol. Only the disbandment would help her gain her confidence back. Glad these shows got discontinued.
I have no doubt that she goes back to Japan after this, that is if she realizes just how damaging the standards are for her. The people hating on her legit just don't like her because she is Japanese. I also thought the show seemed trash from the very beginning, it was the first time I was going to actually watch it because Japanese idol culture is very interesting but once I saw the teasers and the reactions to the Japanese idols it felt very off and embarrassing. I also thought it was weird considering the tense nature between Japan and Korea. It was clearly set up from the beginning and well we actually got proof of that.
Out of all the Japanese members, Hitomi is most likely to stay in the Korean industry. Mainly because Sakura & Nako are already well known in Japan, they’ll definitely be going back to HKT. But Hitomi is well loved in Korea, way more recognition than she was in AKB48, her presence in AKB DANCE TEAM was very limited. Yes, she lost a lot of weight & damaged her body throughout the process but she’s also at the popularity where she wants to be. Remember, she would never be this well known if she never joined IZ*ONE. It could be a blessing of disguise for her.
Lol cry all you want but Hitomi and the other JPN girls are having the best time of their idol careers. Stop with the Korean idols try to be perfect and JPN idols try to entertain the fans BS. It's cringe. Korean idols put more time and effort into practice because with more practice come comfortable performances. Just go watch TGC or IZ*ONE's concerts and you'll see theat they have a blast and are exeptional at entertaining the fans. If you feel comfortable about performing because of the time you put in practice then you have the capacity to do things outside the box. Your imagination that Hitomi's confidence isn't there is so selfish because you're obviously sour that she's thriving in Korea. Too many times she's mentioned in her radio segments that IZ*ONE members are family to her and that she wants this time to last forever. Don't be a crying weeb and continue to support your girl no matter you like where she is or what she does.
@@whatreallymatters571 people don't hate on her for being Japanese. Where the hell did you hear that? My god these JPN only weeb fans are cringe af. If you can't accept the fact that she's a kpop idol and is thriving in Korea being part of the most commercially successful GG of their generation get lost. You've lost contact with reality.
From her radio show [210329 Ep 92 Honda Hitomi World Get You] [Fan letter] You’re very strict with yourself, I admire that. [Hitomi reply's] “I see lots of people have the same image about me. Looking back at last year, April comeback, I was too strict with myself. I made everyone worried. But it was Chaeyeon, who came to me and listened to my worries. Chaeyeon told me, I’m already working hard enough and reassured me to give me confidence. I’m glad to have members who really cared about me, it’s thanks to them, I made it this far. I never talked about this topic, but I lost too much weight that time. My fans gave me encouragement too, but it was thanks to our members who stood close by, especially Chaeyeon, that I managed to overcome everything. It’s nice having 12 members...”
as a westerner - thank you for calling out the double standard. westerners are totally just as bad when it comes to criticizing idols. much love to hitomi and the rest of the members 💗💗💗
I love how caring chaeyeon is (7:07), There’s honestly no reason to hate on the Japanese members. I hope iz*one can continue as 12 members, I hope they can be strong for themselves and each other. I don’t Stan them but they’re all very talented girls.
miriamisofficial tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work. welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates. I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
She sacrifices her body and her health, she's definitely underweight and looked malnourished aswell, hope things get better for her and she can be healthier.
Vicugna Vicugna I think its the attitude and sensitivity you take with your words when commenting on her weight. If its genuine concern about her health because she’s been looking unhealthy its welcome but if you’re going down the “ew she’s so skinny she needs to start eating more” path then thats a get the hell out of here.
eunchan eunchan tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work. welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates. I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
why is kpop culture so toxic sometimes- just let idols breathe. people should be appreciating the music iz*one and other groups put out instead of bashing member for being from japan. i understand that there are tensions between japan and korea but these girls andent the politicians and tensions between countries shouldn’t be taken out on innocent people. this is why being a kpop stan is difficult and can be very annoying. just appreciate the music these girls (and other idols) are putting out. thank you for listening to my ted talk.
I don't know if Naver comments or Twitter comments are the worst. Some of the stuff my friend has translated for me off of Naver and the things I have seen on Twitter is very disappointing
pamela A. yea they both are disgusting but as a international stan, twitter has a bigger influence and creates toxicity around kpop and being a kpop stan. im proud to be a kpop stan but i also get very embarrassed when stan twitter is so… bleh.
I don't think it's a kpop culture issue. Is a Korea vs Japan issue. And yeah it's unreasonable to us, but we can't tell koreans to forget about the past that caused years of damage to them
Staci They shouldn’t forget, but they also shouldn’t slander other people who cannot control the past or the current conflicts. It’s still no excuse to hate on someone they don’t even know.
@@andrea-oq5ix its not just white people tho, POC also harshly comment on the weight of Idols. *all* nationalities put their own ideals onto idols which is harmful.
@@niwka Confirm I'm Latina and a mexican facebook page made Chae (twice) bodyshaming, comparing her to Lisa. They called Wooyoung (ateez) and Wonho fat and other idols.
@@mirific5211 yes, because if you didn't, we wouldn't be finding rude comments from you (btw I'm not talking specifically to you, but you said "we", so I'm just going along with that)
Even though I love IZ*one, I get why her Japanese fans hated the fact she went to Korea, i will never believe that she just "happened" to slim down naturally, she totally did so intentionally under pressure from Korean beauty standards (doesn't how the industry is literally choke full of beautiful thin girls) she gained her cheeks back within a month of going back to Japan. This is why I'm skeptical when fans moan about her going back and say she should just stay in Korea, even though jpop isn't as big as an industry as kpop, she looked really gradient in her recent Japanese promotions, hope she stays happy and healthy.
Sorry this one took so long, it was very hard to dig up any interviews with Hitomi. She really doesn't get many chances to speak, part of that is because of the language barrier and even more she is very reserved and quiet on shows. I think a lot of the hate is not even coming from fans at this point but people finding her weight loss because it's a hot topic right now and just commenting crude things to get likes. Hitomi and the other Japanese members have not had an easy time since the start. Overall I think Honda will benefit from her time in IZONE after their contracts end but she earned every ounce of fame. Japan and Korea were not very happy about this situation at the start and for a year they endured a lot of backlash. I think by mid 2019 Izone has reached a calmer mutual love from both countries but the quality dip in their Japanese MV's was screaming for hate and prejudice. Since the Produce scandal the hate just flared right up again and I think all the girls have taken a stressful hit from it. Now with I-Fans jumping all over Hitomi, all the comments about her body are probably the last things she needs. Izone seem to be just chilling at the moment during quarantine, *idk if their VLives were pre-recorded but Hitomi is acting more like her "previous self".*
What little popularity Hitomi had during P48 came from her ability to market herself as cute (hopes and dreams in her cheeks) and many people calling her the best japanese dancer( she taught her group "Very very very" if i remember correctly). I think she's trying to move away from being considered cute as well as dealing with koreas rigid beauty standard. Though many Wizone hate to think about it Izone does have a time where they will no longer perform together and i think the japanese members will try graduating from Akb48 (its kinda a slowly sinking ship imo). I think hitomi at least will want to debut in Korea.
@@UBZ.7927 pretty much anyone can join akb48 at nearly any age. That's honestly what makes some songs so creepy (looking at you "teacher teacher". Look at sakura, nako and hitomi on those album covers 'blegh'). It's incredibly hard to get popular. You can't get popular if you're not seen but you don't get seen if you're not popular so you have to stand out. Especially since the camera rarely focuses on faces during performances. I think thats why japanese idols tend to dance with there whole bodies but korean idols tend to focus on facial expressions
Actually I really want Iz * one to become a permanent group, but seeing Hiromi, nako and Sakura who are often treated unfairly ... I became doubtful .. I just want them to be happy,Whether they will have a career in Japan or Korea later
As a new fan of 48G,I would agree to them not staying in South Korea even being a Kpop idol is a big opportunity to there talents for being an idol.I would like to see them performing in Japan until they graduated in AKB48/HKT48.
I become worried about Hitomi and Nako.. Maybe Nako did not express her feelings more but Hitomi must feel more pressured because she will never shined in the interviews, her lines and screentimes also did not increased since her debut. I did not blame other members cause they must have their talents that captures other people, but I hate when the fans try to downgrade other members just to bring their bias above... it makes the underrated members become more underrated and dont have chance to change
I have fat cheeks like Hitomi and i'm sorry to tell her theres no way of losing those unless you become severly underweight. It's ok Hitomi we need to love our fat cheeks !
tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences.
its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work.
@@nabukiyako1957 its okay, Jennie has some cheeks too and many people who go for plastic surgery request to have face like Jennie and its getting popular in China too bcos its cute, i think Hitomi can just be herself n ignore the haters, but then again thats the hard thing to do
She doesn’t look happy tbh... Like when she was performing in Japan there was a spark and light in her eye. Now she just seems dim. Maybe she’s depressed? Idk something’s off and it makes me sad.
Once Iz*one performed in Japan an akb48's, heavy Rotation, and omg it was so uncomfortable to watch; I'm used to akb or Japanese Idols perform that, but Iz*one seemed sooo stiff and so focused in do the perfect performance instead of having fun. That's what Kpop is, and that's why J-line seems so different in korea. It's kinda sad lol
Japanese idols are all about having fun and laughing but in Korea every detail in your performance has to be perfect. Your hair, your makeup, your outfit, your dance, your vocals... if you mess up any one of those then you become a target and it’s horrible.
I am glad that no matter what Hitomi is going through, her group really seems to have her back. They all seem so supportive and nice. I know the majority of them just met for the first time during the filming of P48, but they seem so close and kind to each other, and that's all we can hope for. So if Hitomi is being unhealthy, I hope her group continues to support her so she can gain weight safely and be happy with herself and her body. And if not, I mean, remember, we don't know these idols. We don't know their bodies or their life styles, so we can only hope for the best without hurting them with our words.
as a hitomi stan when i saw her during fiesta i was kinda surprised by the weightloss but it didn't worry me much since i know how diligent hitomi is. the members always mention how hitomi is the best at managing herself so my mind literally went to 'she must've been working out a lot for fiesta'. when the pilates photos came out i was so proud of her because pilates isn't easy yet she looks happy and comfortable doing it. i trust her.
@@frida377 but the thing is there are ways to say it, calling her unhealthy or too skinny will further strengthen her anxiety and her self esteem about her weight because she’s stated about it many time already and she already knows about it. Before she would refuse to eat even on camera but now she is starting to become comfortable eating again and you being one of the many comments that she reads about her weight will make her feel even more guilty
@@liamvidon976 Yes Eugenia cooney seems to be also quite happy with her body. I hate this whole mindset if someone's happy why should I care it's toxic in some parts. Their are people who would want to kill themselves should you let them do it? Their are kids wanting to drink alcohol and drugs at a young age pimp themselves should you let that pass? Like seriously what has the world become to not care anymore. And be like if that's what you want if you wanna jump then go ahead. Just sickening.
@@hey2940 Eating on camera means nothing their is something called as bulimia. We don't know what is going on with her eating behaviour. So it's also not good to judge her for eating on camera. That means nothing. We can just hope the company has a professional (In my opinion which every kpop label should have) who knows their Ish and is helping her and the others step by step.
I just want Hii-chan to be happy and healthy. As long as she's taking care of herself and doesn't make herself sick, she can do what she likes. I'm sure there's so much stress on her and I wouldn't doubt if it's not entirely her fault. がんばって,ひとみちゃん!
I feel alot of people are saying things out of concern but for the people who say it's disgusting and stuff are just trying to straight up hurt her. It's so rude to turn something that was outta of concern and love to something so negative and hurtful.
Exactly. Those people are the ones who hate her not even because of her weight but because she is Japanese. They would have been shitting on her regardless, and we're probably the ones who brought up her weight. In the first place. Those comments are extremely disturbing and should be reported, however you won't find a lot to those as they are the most extreme comments that would take the longest to find out of all the ones that are actually supportive.
I personally didn't even notice until I saw the dance practixe for Panorama and saw how skinny her legs were. I got deeply concerned for her but those ppl actually criticizing her should be ashamed of themselves.
I totally agree with your Hwasa comparison. i-netiziens are so proud to be all about body positivity but being thick like hwasa doesn’t determine body positivity. i-fans are so quick to judge skinny people for dieting or for forcing themselves to starve, while implying to “eat more food; stop dieting”. they will never say such things to Hwasa as “stop eating food; you look so fat I’m concerned”. THE HYPOCRISY
For real idk why they feel so entitled smh " body positivity" works both way but they only care if the person is curvy. they could just say they love the idol or send them a "goodluck or congrats for their activities, instead of talking about someone's weight it's uncalled for especially idols it's a sensitive subject for them..Even if you're worried it's not your place, you're not close to them ( imagine me going to a stanger and saying they're too skinny wtf) I just hope the members and her family give her only love and positivity during these times. She jusr came back froma rigged scandal with MNET and now she has to worry about her weight comments...
and their body positivity towards idols like hwasa doesn't even last all the time. the moment a fan feels threatened by her or her group, they slip right back into body shaming her and calling her fat.
cringe_aegyo tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work. welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates. I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
The fact that you can’t see the difference between the two comparisons is terrifying. One is healthy, one isn’t. We aren’t criticizing being skinny, we are worried for her health and want her to eat more not because of aesthetics, but because we don’t want her to collapse from malnutrition. Koreans, on the other hand, don’t care about health and just want their idols to starve to death to fit their beauty standards. Really, the two situations are so different. It’s not hypocritical at all.
Hwasa is healthy... Hitomi is clearly not. Yea we are happy to see more body types in the Korean industry than just tall and super skinny and the pressures Koreans put on their idols to starve themselves down to fainting is a WILD concept in the western community bc we would never do that.We accept people and if she chose to become skinny then whatever her choice shes an adult but if she was forced to or is developing a disorder thats when someone needs to step in but ive noticed in the kpop community most people do not intevine till its too late and they are too far gone...
Some time ago on a japanese tv show (I'm sorry, I don't remember the name and when it was), Hitomi explained how she lost weight by dieting and exercising. They showed a picture of her from before and she shared how many kgs she lost. The host was impressed. Another AKB member recalled a story from when Hii was still in Korea: Hii sent them a picture of some sweet bread and she was wondering why is Hii eating it while on diet, then the next message from Hii was "I'm looking at the bread". The segment was generally praising Hii for losing weight. The pressure to get as skinny as possible does not apply to Korea only, AKB just never required their members (especially non senbatsu girls) to be this skinny. (If anyone knows the name and date of the show, please let me know)
OMGGGG i know exactly which show you are talking about! i literally watched it yesterday ( even tho i didn’t understand anything) but i could make out that they were literally praising her for becoming as thin as possible….which was very much disturbing to say the least since she already was thin.
I’ve seen that in Japan this culture of “sacrifice” and starving (there’s a proper name for that but i can’t remember) it’s praised a lot bc it shows how much willpower a person has. Diet culture is also crazy insane in Japan
I don't think it's about being sexy at all, as female idols are regularly shamed for having sexy images. Any sexy girl group is failed to disband over cute ones. Korean society is entirely too judgemental and it probably wasn't even really because of her weight because she was already pretty thin but just because she was Japanese
I was waiting for this one. I feel as if all members of Izone have lost some weight. Chaeyeon seemed to tone her body, Eunbi noticeably lost weight on her face and body, but none of it is compared to Hitomi. She was at a healthy slim weight but she DRASTICALLY lost weight during this comeback. I hope she’s mentally and physically healthy
Tbh I barely ever notice when people lose or gain weight unless it's drastic so when I watch your videos I'm always thinking "how is it people notice these subtle things?". But when I saw Hitomi during fiesta I knew something was off, and I'm not even much of an IZONE fan. I googled it but not many people had mentioned it at first. I'm glad you're covering it. Edit: I’m not much of an IZONE fan, but I do really like a few of the members and Hitomi is one of them. I was looking into it out of pure concern for her and I really hope she can be healthy and see herself the way we all see her: beautiful.
Since when do people actually care about an idol's health. They only criticize or praise an idol whenever their appearance suit their tastes. Why can't they ever encourage their idols to love their own bodies be it thick or thin?? If you don't like how an idol looks or how their bodies fare, then don't watch their fancams or look at them at all or dont stan the group at all since they've got so much to say that aren't the least supportive
Natalies - tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work. welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates. I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
I hope people get the message of the content of this video. Its not about idols being allowed to be fat, its about the girls being able to take care of their bodies in a healthy sustainable way. They had a lot of months to prepare for their comeback, and Hitomi decided to exercise more. Some are jumping on the bandwagon that shes crashdieting, but being able to lose that amount of weight in that time is very possible if staying in shape is literally part of their job description. What DOES matter is what people say, because these days its like its never enough for idols. Calling her too skinny is no better than calling her too fat. Let her do what she wants for as long as what shes doing is healthy and it makes her happy 😞 Very enlightening video as always AMFG, especially on the unhealthy bias against J-idols. Looking forward to more!
Jihyo’s Heartshaker Well the thing is that what she is doing is not healthy. We call her too skinny because she is too skinny and we want her to be happy with a healthy body.
Jihyo’s Heartshaker tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work. welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates. I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
Me as a model, I feel heartwarming looking at Hitomi trying to be “better”. It’s so sad that there’s a lot of people don’t appreciate it. Telling her to gain weight won’t make her happy at all, trust me 😢😢
The two pics in the thumbnail really capture how drastic the change is.. We of course don't know all that happens behind the scenes, but I at least hope that the girls will keep in mind not to push themselves too hard.. It's important now more than ever to stay healthy- and happy! IZ*ONE fighting! ❤
Hitomi was my bias even before the debut of izone, I can really say that she extreamly looks different now vs before and its the same with nako as well
I love the fact that amidst of all the issues around Hitomi, the girls are supportive of her. They tell her she is pretty and that they are always there for her. It means a lot when the whole world is criticizing you.
13:59 the outcry about her body isn’t just from western fans tho. most of the japanese commenters on her fancams (and even the ones on this video!!) are worried about how she’s lost so much weight, although they bring it up in a more passive way.
Her cheeks was adorable and her body wasn’t fat at all. Jennie and Dahyun has adorable and chubbby cheeks too but their body still looks fit and fine..
I just wish that Hitomi knows that in whatever shape she is in, she is beautiful and wonderful in every way and that she should know that there are countless fans who support her for who she is, and not what she looks like. She really shouldn't have to force herself to diet trying to please the racist and unworthy people who don't know how to appreciate an amazing idol who is perfect the way she is. Hitomi, I know you won't see this but just know that you are wonderful in any form or shape and I will always support you. I can't and won't force you to eat more, but I hope that you properly take care of yourself because your health comes before anyone criticism. I really hope that you are healthy and well and are eating properly :) You are an amazing person :) I love you so much
i've always thought hitomi was one of the skinniest member ever since their debut because her arms were like bones(no hates i love hiichan) so i thought she'd never face body-shaming except for her cute cheeks that some people might criticize so i never thought she needed to lose weight. now that she lost too much weight, her arms got thinner even though it was extremely thin before.
You mentioned hate because of "Attack on Titan", and stated that it sparked hate becuase it's a Japanese show, but the issue is more that the creator of the show/manga denies the wrongdoings of the Japanese Empire during the 2nd World War, which is a touchy subject to say the least...
yeah but saying you're watching an anime doesnt mean your follow their political agenda ( I doubt the girl or even other readers know about the writer)...
Funny that these knetz hates the J line when they basically loves Sana or Mina. Not even them throwing xenophobia selectively. I will be glad if Hitomi chose this to be happy than being pressured to do so. (I miss her Chubby cheeks tho. 😥)
I still believe that is none of the people buisness because Its her own body and haters should really check in the mirror there the broken puzzle here.
I personally think the times she was in front of everyone on camera she didnt eat cause she was full or was cutting out things that they were giving to the group to have a healthy diet, or she was feeling homesick. And when asked what she bought at the store it was a place she wouldn't buy the stuff in her diet. Her posting her workout routine is a great thing cause now we all know why she lost weight slowly and it was for her to get her mind off of the negative things that was happening. I also believe American fans should not be rude to idols to gain weight cause that pressuring them, as it is to lose weight as well so plz stop it (I'm american too but I dont voice my concern for it would sound rude to them so I just let them do what they do until it get bad then I voice my opinion but i really don't) If anyone wants to say something to me about this go ahead but just know you're childish if you say that its okay to voice your concern rudely to idols or to people in general. Remeber you're a stranger to them even if you are a fan and they know it you're still a stranger to them. You wouldnt want a stranger to just randomly tell you on the street you are too skinny or too fat plz stop
I totally agree. If I feel that an idol should stop with the constant weight losing, I wouldn’t be like “you’re too thin! Eat more!” That doesn’t sound right as that was what I heard when I grew up and it just made me feel worse about myself. Though if an idol was gaining too much weight, I’m not going to sugar coat it. It seems like that’s what we American fans tend to do because we accept all body types but some of us be shaming one or the other. I heard somewhere that this overweight person said that there’s this thing called “skinny privilege” that we skinny people get to eat more and stuff and it would be okay. Which isn’t the case, if we’re skinny, people will say that we might have a eating disorder or that we’re dieting and that’s not okay for our bodies. With overweight people, people say that they might have an eating disorder or just eat too much. It’s always the same. I think if we have to say something, we must say it respectfully.
Thank you! There's so many international fans shaming idols who lose weight or look too skinny, some of them are naturally skinny, some of them lost weight healthily but because they weren't active for a while it looks fast, and some did lose weight fat, but either way it would not help to talk crap about how ''sickly'' they look on all their videos and use your concern as an excuse. So many fans use their concern as an excuse to shame them, even when they're telling idols who have visible ABS to gain weight because they look to skinny to them.
Honestly there's a very clear line between being concerned and calling a girl's body disgusting. Until now I only saw legit worry for not only Hitomi-chan but other members, wich makes me believe that most of those people are antis jumping on the bandwagon to shit on them. A big chunk of her routine is on pilates wich explains why she's thinner.
I loved that Hwasa and Hitomi comparison. The double standards of (esp) Westerners when it comes to judging Thin and Thick people are absolutely disgusting.
Except it was completely a trash one. Hwasa isn't overweight or fat, Hitomi has clearly lost more weight then is healthy. A better comparison would be that member of Super junior (I can't remember) his name. Even then it would be valid as he is obese or was as he has been losing weight. Not a double standard at all as she is clearly within her weight class for her build, Hitomi is not. The second picture though of people calling her trash were honestly disgusting and should have been reported.
Hitomi is such a pretty girl no matter what her weight, that's just a number. I dont personally know the real reason why she needed to really loose so much weight but I hope it's not the crazy Korean standard, she's super young, her metabolism is probably still super fast so I dont think she would gain much weight at all. And the hypocrisy, a lot of people say they're for body positivity but they criticize women who lose weight and are thin WTH?!?!? What's wrong if she wants to lose weight, we are not her so why are these people have the audacity to comment on her weight. If it's not your life then dont say something negative, just shut up. Let hitomi live her best life the way she sees fit.
@@zoobiedk5442 watch the video then, and you will understand what he/she talking about Hitomi Clearly getting hate not being concerned like they called Hitomi disgusting because her weight
@Rodri España None of the first comments were out of line. Firstly in Korean making sure people eat is a sign of respect, secondly these commenters making these concerns public actually lead to the company looking into it and making sure that she isn't actually starving herself or going through depression. Say what the fuck you want but it's not shaming nor is it wrong for fans to speak the truth, especially when it can lead to the idol getting help, which it actually has done before. Showing concern and shaming are two different things. The first comments shown were showing concern the second comments were shaming her.
@@maddybg That's not showing concern. Don't act like a fucking 2 year old, we all know the difference between the first set of comments and the second one. No one is saying that the second set of comments are ok, they aren't, they are disgusting and should have been reported. The fact is those comments are left by people who probably were the ones talking about her weight in the first place and hated on her, cussing her to be this thin. The second comments are disgusting but those aren't the majority of comments from international fans at all.
at first it seemed natural, but i'm now kind of worried, also, most of the members have lost some weight, Yujin and Wonyoung make me worried me too :( anyways, i was waiting for your video of her, i really like your videos ^^
Melssa Salsa I have no idea what you said. But it’s only the younger members that worry me, because weight loss can stunt development and growth :( I’m speaking from experience
hitomi has recently said in a Vlive that she’s been struggling and trying hard to intake her food only to realize that she cant consume gluten, which makes perfect sense with her weight loss.
Not being able to intake gluten does not lead to such a drastic weight loss in such a short amount of time, especially when if you take a look back at every other point in her life, she was the same relative weight. Listen, I’m not saying not to trust people but don’t be so gullible either. People with ED will say anything to get you off of their backs. If she truly wanted to gain weight she would have, trust me.
@@horses4555 now that you mention it- that’s true. I can’t intake gluten well but sure enough not losing as fast as she is. Idk. ED or not, I don’t think we should be taking this out of proportion.
Welcome to the kpop industry, Hitomi :( I'm into jpop as well and we can clearly see the girls are allowed to have fun instead of looking perfect and in sync 24:7. You could see their reactions during Produce 48. Survival shows are overwall fucked up, but this one managed to be extra.
Hey guys I don't know if you know but hitomi wrote on private mail and personally said that she's fine and she would be more glad if you guys complimented her in her improvement on her dancing rather than talk about her weight loss. As far as we know she wants to lose weight no one is forcing her. Let's just let her be and support her no matter what. If you really love hiichan no matter what she does you'll support her as long as she's happy and not being forced in to it. She's still our cute hiichan after all
I feel like groups like TWICE and IZONE are walking so future generations of mixed cultures can run. Twice was the 1st Japanese mixed Korean group to get tons of genuine love in korea, now Izone is fighting for that. It's clear the members see each other as people, they all genuinely love each other and are family. They can teach lessons for their country about acceptance and not holding grudges 1000 years later when both parties are equally guilty of a past they're punishing their youth for.
Hitomi and a few other members looked a little under weight in fiesta era, probably due to everything going on at the time, but hitomi has always been quite small. She looks very toned as does everyone else in the most recent comeback, and she said herself said she was eating healthily. Stay safe and well iz*one!
The statements about “this ugly Japanese members came to Korea because they were the worst” or “they’re not as popular” really bother me. Sakura and Nako literally are top 12 AKB48 members proved by Sousenkyo and Hitomi was a rising star, even if she wasn’t popular. They actually had something to loose when decided to go to Korea. Knetz are the worst, not only to JP people, but in general, they’ve pushed Korean idols to ED, suicides, depression... at this point there should be a law against this type of behavior on Social Media
Hi I made a video about why kpop is making us insecure and I tought you might like it, u don't have to check it if u don't want to 🥺💖 love u fellow kpop fan have a nice day.
@@oc3607 nah, k-netizens do the fat shaming and i-netizens do the skinny shaming in my opinion. the Hwasa example in this video explains it quite well.
@@oc3607 Nope, i-Netizens (mainly in North American) skinny shame the heck out of tons of idols and it's disturbing how they don't see how badly it affects people. Lisa, Sunmi, Jimin (AOA), Rosé, and Suga (to name a few) get lots of messages that they are too skinny and they need to eat more from i-Netizens. But at the same time, they get hate for gaining weight from K-Netizens (thinking back to Suga from 2019 when he gained some weight and then lost it because of backlash). That doesn't mean that there isn't i-Netizens that fat shame or K-Netizens that shinny shame, but i-Netizens are obsessed with "bigger is healthier" (not the case with idols such as Lisa, Sunmi and Rosé) and K-Netizens are convinced that "smaller is prettier" (not always true, such as Hani (from EXID) and Uee) *This post is not meant to shinny shame or fat shame any idols. All idols mentioned are used as examples of how harsh people can be when it comes to beauty standards and should not be taken out of context*
O C Not really. K-fans mostly fat shaming idols and i-fans usually skinny shaming idols. Like i was watching fancam of some idol and many i-fans just straight up calling them skeleton like wtf some even called them ugly because they are too thin. When i told them to stop skinny shaming, they will use ‘oH i aM wOrRieD aBoUt TheIR HeAlTh’ excuse. People need to realise that what they did was skinny shaming and fat shaming. It’s not cool to fat shaming and it’s not nice to skinny shaming either.
sigh, i don't know why people like those who criticize ppl with their weight and nationality exist. all i want is Tomi to be happy and healthy. thank God her members are always there to help her.
Ik a lot of people were worried about wonyoung's weight loss during iz*one's promotions (and they're valid, especially now), but I feel like people should've also kept an eye out on hitomi and even yuri. I was especially shocked when I saw an old fancam of yuri and realized her weight loss as well.
I know, I was watching past videos and was getting worried again... none of them have gone back. Wony got even skinnier, and although she gained more weight again, it still seems concerning... I'm just worried for their current mental health and life quality, and even more so for how their lives will be in the future if they don't take care of themselves more... it's a harsh industry...
Waitttt... she is considered ugly.... what is going on.... her cheeks , her teeth amd her pretty round face made me interested in the group... honestly.... SHE WAS THE CUTESSTTT during la vien en rose era... im crying ....
what you don't know is that they are not Korean netizens. they are called "femi-Nazi" in S.Korea. they insult every korean man and pretty or cute girl.
Binnie hello please do not use that word. only nazis should be called nazis. do not use that word ironically or in a place where it is not meant to be as it is highly offensive.
@@lindseysg i don't use that word but it's true they are called "femi-nazi" in S.Korea. they always spread all kinds of hatred. even girls don't like them. watch that video do you think they are normal? haha
Saying "I hope she's healthy" or " I hope she's happy and confident." To avoid getting your fav criticized, which you assume is hate, does not change a thing. She's going through hungry in order to fit in this stupid beauty standard, when she was totally beautiful and healthy before. I know she's the victim but there's nothing such as Healthy nor happiness in something like this. Look at her damn legs. Shes literally underweight to reach a irreal body and she needs help. Stop normalizing aggressive diets.
She literally said she's been gorging trying to reach your expectations of her and gain weight. For that, she's been forcing herself to eat 4 meals a day. Another thing is she is allergic to gluten which she found out which also contributed to the weight loss. When will you western fans get off your high horse and stop interfering in eastern things
Funnily enough, you think you're helping with your comments that damage her self esteem and mental health? She is trying. What do you want her to do when she's having trouble gaining weight? Get a surgery or something? It's like what do you guys want her to do exactly. Ridiculous how you think your comments pointing out her weight at all are helping when she already knows like she isn't blind. Egotistic honestly as if your expectations are the only "valid" ones. What can she do if she simply can't gain weight simple as that...
@@fuyosi8399 oh for some reason I didn't realize. Guess I just completely skimmed through it last time or tagged the wrong person accidentally. Let me edit my comment
![[Knowing Bros] Why Honda Hitomi is the best dancer in AKB48 (and IZ*ONE) 😳](/img/n.gif)
a little information for people who are watching this. On 20 June 2020, she wrote a mail regarding the concern about her weight loss. She wrote that her heart is not as strong as she thought (which means that she feels sad reading all those comments) and promise that she will work hard to increase her weight. She also said that she's actually eating well, but because people complained on why she only post food photos so she stopped uploading them. Now, around 2 days ago, she wrote a mail saying that she is working hard to eat 4 meals a day and that she has gain 0.4 kg. She also stated that she is working on gaining more muscles and weights. So i hope to anyone that read this, please don't complain about her weight anymore 😔. She is working very hard to gain more 💗
Coming from someone who has an eating disorder you should never listen to the person themselves. They are essentially addicted to being thin, addicts will always lie. If she was trying, trust me it would show quickly, but it has been a year and she is still painfully thin. Calling them out helps them, if you just pretend the problem doesn’t exist it will only get worse for them.
"she has gained 0.4kg"? what is that?😅 that's when you don't go to toilet for a few hours, nothing more.
@@NoctLightCloud that what I've said before that it depends on each person. maybe for you that gain weight fast, those 0.4 kg is "nothing more". but for her, it's very good, and my comment above are months ago, her weight might gain even more🤷♀️
wtf people literally complained at everything including her posting food pictures? she just wants fans to not be worried bcs she's actually eating well despite her sudden weightloss. and some people don't understand that pressuring someone to gain weight is just as bad as pressuring someone to lose weight. its not easy for some people😢
@@camillashimwa7671 but in that case hitomi would always been that thin and that's not what's happening
Let’s just hope she is happy and healthy.
I hope so, too. Hitomi is the reason why I love Izone now.
@Swat Pup gvvvvv h k
Shes not healthy
@@pedrohussay9500 She is tho stop being so ignorant. She's a short person so her requirement weight for her bmi is much lower than more than half their members who are taller
@@edwardsramos3113 you can still be small and underweight. her sudden weight loss shows that she was healthy and now she isn't.
On a livestream recently Hitomi mentioned that she didn't feel that great physically and wanted to gain weight. It's also worth mentioning that during fiesta promotions she wasn't eating with the rest of the girls, and tended to sit around with heat packs and blankets afaik. In terms of Magazine interviews, in 2019 she said she really mostly eats vegetables and yogurt and she was jealous of Hyewon being able to eat a lot without gaining. The AKB48 members also said Hitomi diets the hardest, and other IZONE members mentioned the fact that they were concerned for her weight. . . so yeah she's not eating a ton and just exercising like some people keep trying to say.
can I know where izone members mentioned that they were concerned? (sorry if it sounds rude :'> I'm not that good in english)
@@xx4ishaxx it’s all spread across their vlogs/diaries/updates to fans there isn’t really a video
Wow, people really think Japanese people are ugly? I am always so in awe of how naturally pretty they are. They don’t need plastic surgery. When I went to Japan, most of the girls were so so pretty.
Marusu Korean netizens will bash anyone for their looks it’s crazy.
@@spideysargent2474 In this case though, they are especially racist towards japanese in particular due to the history between the two countries
I don’t get it either. Have they seen some of the Japanese actresses/actors? They’re gorgeous
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@@spideysargent2474 frl
You can tell the other members are worried, just by how they were encouraging her to eat more. She’s lucky to have such good friends. I hope she gets the help she needs with her weight before it causes her serious medical issues.
honestly its never ok to comment on someone’s body, you can be concerned about someone without pressuring or bodyshaming them
M Depends on what you mean by “ok.” It’s definitely legal. It’s a pretty dick thing to do, though, but I understand that not everyone shares my values.
KaraKara i’m sure they meant morally, its never really a good idea to bring someone’s weight into the discussion of “being concerned for their health” and such unless its for their own good (on the brink of death). even if that was the case, they shouldn’t bash and disrepect them because of it either.
or at least, that’s how i interpreted what they said.
Its kinda weird that youre saying that on a video that is nothing but talking about someone elses body lol
M M im starting to wonder why i ever watched these kind of videos in the first place (other than this one bc this one is actually being done by someone cultured after i watched the whole video) 😳 i went into this video from recommendations and wanted to see if the the comment section would be ignoring this issue as always, but glad to see this is finally being brought up in these kind of videos :/ its ok to be concerned but constantly commenting on someone’s body or bringing it to their attention when they probably already know is just going to make them feel even worse about it. especially since what the person chooses to do to their body is ultimately their choice, and it’s also their choice to decide for themselves to be healthy in their own way. and yes, we can definitely be concerned without bringing up someone’s body.
she lost so much weight all at once... its only human to be concerned
i think she’s trying really hard to loose the fat in her cheeks (but it’s adorable) maybe she doesn’t want to seem cute anymore and more like a woman? idk i hope it’s nothing serious
I notice that hitomi love be mature attidute so 17 years
@Melssa Salsa yeah and I don't think her weight loss is because of an ED.. hopefully not. I think it's cuz of stress
I have a feeling that that's what's going on or part of it. She's trying to achieve a more mature look...but I think her cheeks are just her destiny. I've accepted mine
I have same problem, i want to get rid of my cheeks bc im a male n i have baby cheeks, which makes people confuse me for a female
Yeah that's what I'm talking about
Some international fans are so hypocritical. They complain about knetz body shaming idols, but they do the exact thing
Ikr....
Exactly
Alice the Western entertainment industry obviously has its faults rightfully criticizing the Korean industry has nothing to do with racism....like at all...when idols are starving themselves, not dating and getting severely overworked of course people are going to point it out.....knetz are disgusting and are murderers in my eyes after what happened to sulli they should have all the criticism in the world
Alice exactly! They’re such hypocrites. The only difference is the beauty standards. Whereas Asia wants slim skinny figures, westerners want hourglass figures. Here in America, I see people criticizing celebrities if they don’t have that perfect hourglass and then they go get plastic surgery on their body (Brazilian butt lift, breast implants, tummy tuck, lip fillers, etc) to fit the beauty standard but then people just criticize them for getting plastic surgery. It’s a cruel cycle. Every A rank celebrity in America is sexualized. The most recent one is Billie Eliesh, quickly rose to fame when she turned 18 and showed her body. Westerners are no better, they are the same.
squid i’ve been saying this for so long. international fans always try to say they’re better than korean fans, but theres are also horrible “fans” internationally and also amazing, positive fans in korea too!
Soooo... is no one in the comment section going to discuss the racism and prejudice going on between Korea and Japan? Like, holy shit some of those comments were uncomfortable to read...
Edit: And wtf to the Western fans, too.
It’s extremely startling. I get that the two countries have conflict but the comments were beyond racist...
I'm Japanese and there actually never was that much hatred against Korea before in Japan (at least for most people) and K-Media was a big thing even before it was aknowledged by the world. Then in these few years the amount of boycotting against Japan grew so much in Korea especially in political ways. Then the "Takeshima Problem" happened and the Japanese started hate against Korea as if they are fighting back. Which probably is the reason why the Korean artists and shows have a hard time being Japanese-friendly eventhough there's much support from Japanese fans. Really sad as to see the two countries having a hard time as a Japanese K-POP fan :,(
中鉢汐里 Definitely isn’t one-sided unfortunately. Koreans living in Japan also get a lot of abuse from Japanese - both historically and in modern day
@@helen241 Yeah, unfortunately I can't disagree to that either. I know it might sound like an excuse but those were the kind of things the old generation(like the people who's been through WW2) would do and the younger ones were definitely starting to change. Historical education becoming really fair and both sided was a big thing. Also, as I said, K-Media trending made Korea really familiar to us. The "Takeshima Problem" was a really big turning point to make the young ones start hating Korean culture.
The big concern I have about Hiichan's problem is that in Japan, we barely see any TV shows dissing Korea in any ways whatsoever. If by any chance there is, a lot of people would go against it. And that kind of spirit seems to be missing in Korea if you see this video...
Why bother? Those haters just want to get some attention.. not to mentioned most of them feel overproud of their own race, and looking down to others.. Usually the ugliest has the most hate 😊
People don't get that the reason why idols get really exicted to eat when doing tv show appearances is because they don't eat or go on diets during their personal time or at home. I started to notice that might be the reason groups like izone and twice get really excited when there's food involved in a variety show
I remember someone saying that staff restricted the amount of food the idols can get from the cafeteria at JYP, so when they can eat at reality shows it makes sense that they're excited... It's really sad
Many kpop girl groups (even boy groups) get excited when it comes to food or when they get rewarded of food seems that they were in extreme diets😥
I feel like people dont talk about how true what Jurina and Sakura were saying when everyone was talking shit about the Japanese trainees and how they straight up said it pissed them off when they talked down and made fun of all the japanese girls.
The show blatantly ignored and disregarded the japanese trainees by not having interpreters or anyone who could even speak the language and were basically like "Learn korean without a teacher or who cares" as if these girls had any way of understanding what was going on. And half the time it was worse because they didn't understand some teachers were calling them names and thats why a whole bunch of the trainees left early. Did anyone else notice how a bunch of the japanese trainees magically disappeared after the first evaluations? Because they were being bullied and degraded by everyone there and felt they needed to leave because it was embarrassing as fuck.
The whole show was a waste to even include the Japanese girls when they refused to even acknowledge or respect most of them.
Omg I couldn’t agree more! I watched the show and I just felt bad for the Japanese girls. Like first off Japanese idols are way different than Korean idols. Like they said on the show the Japanese just care about making fans happy and they are suppose to have fun in their performance but in Korea it’s about perfection. So I noticed after the auditions were over and they started training like a bunch of Japanese girls were gone. Plus it made me upset how much they were being degraded and how they were held to a standard the same way as a Korean trainee when they don’t understand that the Japanese were trained differently. It makes me so mad and I feel so bad for all of them!
@@shysnow8 exactly there were what seemed like atleast 40 Japanese trainees and magically after they all got into rankings there were like 20 if that. And that already doesnt make sense with how the show is set up where all the trainees are chosen prior and scored so why did they bring all the Japanese trainees onto the show to laugh at them, tell them they are shit at performing and then all of them leave?
Not to mention when there were actually good Japanese contestants they acted as if they sucked? Jurina literally KILLED her part and had confidence and really performed beautifully but they made up things saying she was stiff and such when she literally did so well. And then tried to make it seem like Jurina and Sakura were super rivals and had Sakura win to make Jurina look like she sucked and act like oh wow these japanese girls cant do much can they? I love Sakura but Jurina literally did all the things they praised Sakura for but they wanted to belittle the girl who was highest ranked in the entirety of Japanese contestants and make it seem like Japanese people must be crazy for thinking any of them had talent?
Idk the whole thing was super fishy to me and felt like such a slap in the face and as I said Sakura and Jurina LITERALLY said it was pissing them off and were literally saying that it wasnt fair and they were being disrespectful and belittling those girls. Its was like Korea being a Dick to Japan through little girls because both countries have issues with eachother.
BabyGirlAri173 yes this is so true! Like a lot of those Japanese girls had talent and the ones they said sucked actually weren’t bad. Like on the first episode when I saw the ones who got F’s and D’s I thought their performances were cute and it was very Japanese style. Cause it’s not about being perfect it’s about having fun and being cute and playful. Like they weren’t terrible it’s just that the style is different. Plus Jurina is super talented and she was one of my favorites. I felt really bad for her cause it seemed like they just favored Sakura. I think she is wonderful but I think she was being favored way too much and idk why. Many of the other contestants were just as talented and pretty as Sakura.
@@shysnow8 I must say that I am not at all familiar with the k-pop industry and only watched the whole thing because of the Japanese girls. Anyways it really seemed to me as if they brought in a lot of "debut-ready" Korean girls but a lot of inexperienced japanese trainees/members of the AKB and sister groups, they only sprinkled in a few very popular ones like sakura or jurina to make it seem legit as well as get more viewers because of their fan base. At least that's the feeling I got, feel free to change my mind since I'm not familiar with this kind of show at all :)
Cakepoppi You made some good points. They did only bring in popular girls like Jurina and Sakura to seem legit but they brought in a lot of Japanese girls who already debuted but they weren’t huge names and were still inexperienced compared to Sakura or Jurina. Some have maybe been there just as long as them but are in the back usually. The Japanese and Koreans train very differently from one another. Some of the Japanese talked about how they have been in their group for 6 years or something like that and they were never in the center and were always in the back. A lot of those Japanese girls had experience and they came to Korea to get a chance to be bigger. Or they wanted to try something new. Idk the history for all of them but for sure all of them have debuted already and were in a J-Pop group.
She’s not just a body. She’s human.
Nayeon pretty This ^^
tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work.
welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates.
I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
I STAN NAKOCHAN I get what you mean honestly, but they shouldn’t only focus on her body. She has many other perks to her.
@@cloud761 yeah, like, she's so cute and charming, and her voice is so dream-like. And this may sound very childish, but I believe that if Hitomi looks comfortable and happy with herself, everyone will also be happy and comfortable with her.
My opinion:
The overall concept of produce48 was flawed. The word "Idol" has different meanings in Japan and Korea. Japanese idols are mainly concerned with entertaining their fans, they don't have to be perfect like a Korean idol. Those girls were self taught and learnt from their seniors in the same industry, that's why Hitomi's cheeks were considered "cute". I'm afraid she's struggling to find a place in this cut-throat industry where perfection is all that matters.
Makes me glad IZ*ONE is a temporary group and she has no obligation to join the KPop industry as an idol. Only the disbandment would help her gain her confidence back. Glad these shows got discontinued.
I have no doubt that she goes back to Japan after this, that is if she realizes just how damaging the standards are for her. The people hating on her legit just don't like her because she is Japanese. I also thought the show seemed trash from the very beginning, it was the first time I was going to actually watch it because Japanese idol culture is very interesting but once I saw the teasers and the reactions to the Japanese idols it felt very off and embarrassing. I also thought it was weird considering the tense nature between Japan and Korea. It was clearly set up from the beginning and well we actually got proof of that.
Out of all the Japanese members, Hitomi is most likely to stay in the Korean industry. Mainly because Sakura & Nako are already well known in Japan, they’ll definitely be going back to HKT. But Hitomi is well loved in Korea, way more recognition than she was in AKB48, her presence in AKB DANCE TEAM was very limited. Yes, she lost a lot of weight & damaged her body throughout the process but she’s also at the popularity where she wants to be. Remember, she would never be this well known if she never joined IZ*ONE. It could be a blessing of disguise for her.
I agree. I heard many times that SK society is also very superficial in general.
Lol cry all you want but Hitomi and the other JPN girls are having the best time of their idol careers.
Stop with the Korean idols try to be perfect and JPN idols try to entertain the fans BS. It's cringe.
Korean idols put more time and effort into practice because with more practice come comfortable performances. Just go watch TGC or IZ*ONE's concerts and you'll see theat they have a blast and are exeptional at entertaining the fans.
If you feel comfortable about performing because of the time you put in practice then you have the capacity to do things outside the box.
Your imagination that Hitomi's confidence isn't there is so selfish because you're obviously sour that she's thriving in Korea.
Too many times she's mentioned in her radio segments that IZ*ONE members are family to her and that she wants this time to last forever. Don't be a crying weeb and continue to support your girl no matter you like where she is or what she does.
@@whatreallymatters571 people don't hate on her for being Japanese. Where the hell did you hear that? My god these JPN only weeb fans are cringe af.
If you can't accept the fact that she's a kpop idol and is thriving in Korea being part of the most commercially successful GG of their generation get lost.
You've lost contact with reality.
From her radio show [210329 Ep 92 Honda Hitomi World Get You]
[Fan letter] You’re very strict with yourself, I admire that.
[Hitomi reply's]
“I see lots of people have the same image about me. Looking back at last year, April comeback, I was too strict with myself. I made everyone worried. But it was Chaeyeon, who came to me and listened to my worries. Chaeyeon told me, I’m already working hard enough and reassured me to give me confidence. I’m glad to have members who really cared about me, it’s thanks to them, I made it this far. I never talked about this topic, but I lost too much weight that time. My fans gave me encouragement too, but it was thanks to our members who stood close by, especially Chaeyeon, that I managed to overcome everything. It’s nice having 12 members...”
as a westerner - thank you for calling out the double standard. westerners are totally just as bad when it comes to criticizing idols. much love to hitomi and the rest of the members 💗💗💗
About islam,about ppl and about everything,,so true!!
Thanks to be honest
I love how caring chaeyeon is (7:07), There’s honestly no reason to hate on the Japanese members. I hope iz*one can continue as 12 members, I hope they can be strong for themselves and each other. I don’t Stan them but they’re all very talented girls.
miriamisofficial tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work.
welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates.
I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
She sacrifices her body and her health, she's definitely underweight and looked malnourished aswell, hope things get better for her and she can be healthier.
eunchan eunchan Thank you. Someone who finally understands that she’s unhealthy.
Vicugna Vicugna I think its the attitude and sensitivity you take with your words when commenting on her weight. If its genuine concern about her health because she’s been looking unhealthy its welcome but if you’re going down the “ew she’s so skinny she needs to start eating more” path then thats a get the hell out of here.
Vicugna Vicugna saying that someone looks underweight and malnourished isn’t really bullying, they’re just concerned...
eunchan eunchan tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work.
welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates.
I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
I STAN NAKOCHAN the comments featured on the video didn’t seem degrading imo though...
why is kpop culture so toxic sometimes- just let idols breathe. people should be appreciating the music iz*one and other groups put out instead of bashing member for being from japan. i understand that there are tensions between japan and korea but these girls andent the politicians and tensions between countries shouldn’t be taken out on innocent people. this is why being a kpop stan is difficult and can be very annoying. just appreciate the music these girls (and other idols) are putting out. thank you for listening to my ted talk.
I don't know if Naver comments or Twitter comments are the worst. Some of the stuff my friend has translated for me off of Naver and the things I have seen on Twitter is very disappointing
pamela A. yea they both are disgusting but as a international stan, twitter has a bigger influence and creates toxicity around kpop and being a kpop stan. im proud to be a kpop stan but i also get very embarrassed when stan twitter is so… bleh.
I don't think it's a kpop culture issue. Is a Korea vs Japan issue. And yeah it's unreasonable to us, but we can't tell koreans to forget about the past that caused years of damage to them
Staci They shouldn’t forget, but they also shouldn’t slander other people who cannot control the past or the current conflicts. It’s still no excuse to hate on someone they don’t even know.
@@destinycoleman1160 theyre the same race tho?? I think you mean xenophobia
I think we can change the 'Western fans' to 'International fans'. It's not like anyone speaking English are from the West.
@@andrea-oq5ix its not just white people tho, POC also harshly comment on the weight of Idols. *all* nationalities put their own ideals onto idols which is harmful.
EXACTLY
@@niwka people really think we white people give an f abiut idols weight-?
@@niwka Confirm
I'm Latina and a mexican facebook page made Chae (twice) bodyshaming, comparing her to Lisa.
They called Wooyoung (ateez) and Wonho fat and other idols.
@@mirific5211 yes, because if you didn't, we wouldn't be finding rude comments from you (btw I'm not talking specifically to you, but you said "we", so I'm just going along with that)
Even though I love IZ*one, I get why her Japanese fans hated the fact she went to Korea, i will never believe that she just "happened" to slim down naturally, she totally did so intentionally under pressure from Korean beauty standards (doesn't how the industry is literally choke full of beautiful thin girls) she gained her cheeks back within a month of going back to Japan. This is why I'm skeptical when fans moan about her going back and say she should just stay in Korea, even though jpop isn't as big as an industry as kpop, she looked really gradient in her recent Japanese promotions, hope she stays happy and healthy.
jpop is the 2nd largest music industry in the world, i guess u mean internationally
She is a really pretty girl in both images. Honestly she did not need to lose weight at all.
韓国行ってから徐々に細くなったんだろうけど活動が見えなかった期間があったから一気に細くなったように見える。。。
足も腕も細すぎていつか倒れちゃいそうこれ以上細くならないで。。。
Sorry this one took so long, it was very hard to dig up any interviews with Hitomi. She really doesn't get many chances to speak, part of that is because of the language barrier and even more she is very reserved and quiet on shows. I think a lot of the hate is not even coming from fans at this point but people finding her weight loss because it's a hot topic right now and just commenting crude things to get likes.
Hitomi and the other Japanese members have not had an easy time since the start. Overall I think Honda will benefit from her time in IZONE after their contracts end but she earned every ounce of fame. Japan and Korea were not very happy about this situation at the start and for a year they endured a lot of backlash. I think by mid 2019 Izone has reached a calmer mutual love from both countries but the quality dip in their Japanese MV's was screaming for hate and prejudice.
Since the Produce scandal the hate just flared right up again and I think all the girls have taken a stressful hit from it. Now with I-Fans jumping all over Hitomi, all the comments about her body are probably the last things she needs.
Izone seem to be just chilling at the moment during quarantine, *idk if their VLives were pre-recorded but Hitomi is acting more like her "previous self".*
The fact that she debuted at 12 it shock me i dont know why...
Can you do Hwasa next??
did you delete hyuna?pls bring it back:(
@@shahidali-qk2bj they might be updating it.
What little popularity Hitomi had during P48 came from her ability to market herself as cute (hopes and dreams in her cheeks) and many people calling her the best japanese dancer( she taught her group "Very very very" if i remember correctly). I think she's trying to move away from being considered cute as well as dealing with koreas rigid beauty standard. Though many Wizone hate to think about it Izone does have a time where they will no longer perform together and i think the japanese members will try graduating from Akb48 (its kinda a slowly sinking ship imo). I think hitomi at least will want to debut in Korea.
@@UBZ.7927 pretty much anyone can join akb48 at nearly any age. That's honestly what makes some songs so creepy (looking at you "teacher teacher". Look at sakura, nako and hitomi on those album covers 'blegh'). It's incredibly hard to get popular. You can't get popular if you're not seen but you don't get seen if you're not popular so you have to stand out. Especially since the camera rarely focuses on faces during performances. I think thats why japanese idols tend to dance with there whole bodies but korean idols tend to focus on facial expressions
Actually I really want Iz * one to become a permanent group, but seeing Hiromi, nako and Sakura who are often treated unfairly ... I became doubtful ..
I just want them to be happy,Whether they will have a career in Japan or Korea later
As a new fan of 48G,I would agree to them not staying in South Korea even being a Kpop idol is a big opportunity to there talents for being an idol.I would like to see them performing in Japan until they graduated in AKB48/HKT48.
細すぎて心配になるけど、ケーポップの世界みんな脚長くて細い人ばっかりだから、感覚麻痺しちゃってるのかそれが普通と思っちゃうんだろうな……それでなくてもひぃちゃん努力家だから………
日に日にやせ細っていくひーちゃんを見て、ご両親はどういう気持ちで見守ってるんだろう、、
痩せる前も充分可愛いよ!!
無理しないで😭
I become worried about Hitomi and Nako.. Maybe Nako did not express her feelings more but Hitomi must feel more pressured because she will never shined in the interviews, her lines and screentimes also did not increased since her debut. I did not blame other members cause they must have their talents that captures other people, but I hate when the fans try to downgrade other members just to bring their bias above... it makes the underrated members become more underrated and dont have chance to change
I have fat cheeks like Hitomi and i'm sorry to tell her theres no way of losing those unless you become severly underweight. It's ok Hitomi we need to love our fat cheeks !
Same here. It's almost impossible to lose fat on the cheeks naturally
yeahhh but she’s stressed about it because of work too. it’s hard to go ‘up’ in that industry without attaining their standard of ‘visuals’
tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences.
its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work.
@@nabukiyako1957 its okay, Jennie has some cheeks too and many people who go for plastic surgery request to have face like Jennie and its getting popular in China too bcos its cute, i think Hitomi can just be herself n ignore the haters, but then again thats the hard thing to do
個人的には左の方がひーちゃんの雰囲気に似合ってると思う、十分スタイル良いから
細ければ細いってもんじゃないんだけど
ストイックなんだろうなぁ、、
She doesn’t look happy tbh... Like when she was performing in Japan there was a spark and light in her eye. Now she just seems dim. Maybe she’s depressed? Idk something’s off and it makes me sad.
righttt
Once Iz*one performed in Japan an akb48's, heavy Rotation, and omg it was so uncomfortable to watch; I'm used to akb or Japanese Idols perform that, but Iz*one seemed sooo stiff and so focused in do the perfect performance instead of having fun. That's what Kpop is, and that's why J-line seems so different in korea. It's kinda sad lol
Japanese idols are all about having fun and laughing but in Korea every detail in your performance has to be perfect. Your hair, your makeup, your outfit, your dance, your vocals... if you mess up any one of those then you become a target and it’s horrible.
@@barbiana1802 isn't like everything as japanese idols is about having fun, but yeah, they're less harsh with them than with kpop idols
@@barbiana1802 ouch
Some international fans really think they're doing smth good when they pressure idols to gain more weight 🙄🙄
Fr they have a superiority complex where anything that is considered western is good/right and anything else is wrong
@@Ruby-dc3wp yup, they're annoying
It’s the same energy as telling an idol to lose weight. It’s just cruelty after a while.
I KNOW RIGHT. Some people literally don't understand that its just as bad as pressuring someone to lose weight😢
@@Ruby-dc3wp if that isn’t the most UK and American thing I’ve heard. It’s so true
"HWASA WHY ARE YOU SO FAT IM SCARED"
I'VE BEEN LAUGHING AT THIS FOR LIKE EIGHT YEARS
PLEASEEE
I SHOULDNT BE LAUGHING 💀💀💀💀💀💀
ITS TOO FUNNT
Good thing I'm not the only one who laughed at this sentence 💀
HWASA ? WHAT 😭 ☠️☠️
I am glad that no matter what Hitomi is going through, her group really seems to have her back. They all seem so supportive and nice. I know the majority of them just met for the first time during the filming of P48, but they seem so close and kind to each other, and that's all we can hope for. So if Hitomi is being unhealthy, I hope her group continues to support her so she can gain weight safely and be happy with herself and her body. And if not, I mean, remember, we don't know these idols. We don't know their bodies or their life styles, so we can only hope for the best without hurting them with our words.
i’m sorry but “hwasa why are you so fat IM SCARED” was so funny lmaoooo 14:24
THAT PART KILLED ME 😭😭😭
@@dreamymelody12 SAME HAAHA
PLS😭
HELP IM FAT AND I BUSTED A LUNG
THE ALL CAPS 😭
as a hitomi stan when i saw her during fiesta i was kinda surprised by the weightloss but it didn't worry me much since i know how diligent hitomi is. the members always mention how hitomi is the best at managing herself so my mind literally went to 'she must've been working out a lot for fiesta'. when the pilates photos came out i was so proud of her because pilates isn't easy yet she looks happy and comfortable doing it. i trust her.
頬がプクってしてるぐらいで体は元々細いのに絞りすぎだなあ…金髪にしたてくらいが大分細いけど綺麗な細さだったと思う
korean idols : someone you want to be or date
japanese idols : your best friend on a spiritual level
For me Japanese Idols both someone I want to date and my best friend too lol.
Guys just don’t fat/skinny shame, it’s not cute
Well there's a point where someone is way too skinny and needs to be said so we can help them. She looks unhealthy.
@@liamvidon976 no it is not, try to help them, I guess you wouldn't be happy if they die bc of anorexia or obesity...
@@frida377 but the thing is there are ways to say it, calling her unhealthy or too skinny will further strengthen her anxiety and her self esteem about her weight because she’s stated about it many time already and she already knows about it. Before she would refuse to eat even on camera but now she is starting to become comfortable eating again and you being one of the many comments that she reads about her weight will make her feel even more guilty
@@liamvidon976
Yes Eugenia cooney seems to be also quite happy with her body.
I hate this whole mindset if someone's happy why should I care it's toxic in some parts.
Their are people who would want to kill themselves should you let them do it?
Their are kids wanting to drink alcohol and drugs at a young age pimp themselves should you let that pass?
Like seriously what has the world become to not care anymore. And be like if that's what you want if you wanna jump then go ahead.
Just sickening.
@@hey2940
Eating on camera means nothing their is something called as bulimia.
We don't know what is going on with her eating behaviour. So it's also not good to judge her for eating on camera. That means nothing.
We can just hope the company has a professional (In my opinion which every kpop label should have) who knows their Ish and is helping her and the others step by step.
ひぃちゃん細い……無理はしないでね…
I love Hitomi no matter how she looks 😭
Yess🥺🥺🥺
I just want Hii-chan to be happy and healthy. As long as she's taking care of herself and doesn't make herself sick, she can do what she likes. I'm sure there's so much stress on her and I wouldn't doubt if it's not entirely her fault.
がんばって,ひとみちゃん!
I feel alot of people are saying things out of concern but for the people who say it's disgusting and stuff are just trying to straight up hurt her. It's so rude to turn something that was outta of concern and love to something so negative and hurtful.
Exactly. Those people are the ones who hate her not even because of her weight but because she is Japanese. They would have been shitting on her regardless, and we're probably the ones who brought up her weight. In the first place. Those comments are extremely disturbing and should be reported, however you won't find a lot to those as they are the most extreme comments that would take the longest to find out of all the ones that are actually supportive.
I personally didn't even notice until I saw the dance practixe for Panorama and saw how skinny her legs were. I got deeply concerned for her but those ppl actually criticizing her should be ashamed of themselves.
I totally agree with your Hwasa comparison. i-netiziens are so proud to be all about body positivity but being thick like hwasa doesn’t determine body positivity. i-fans are so quick to judge skinny people for dieting or for forcing themselves to starve, while implying to “eat more food; stop dieting”. they will never say such things to Hwasa as “stop eating food; you look so fat I’m concerned”. THE HYPOCRISY
For real idk why they feel so entitled smh " body positivity" works both way but they only care if the person is curvy. they could just say they love the idol or send them a "goodluck or congrats for their activities, instead of talking about someone's weight it's uncalled for especially idols it's a sensitive subject for them..Even if you're worried it's not your place, you're not close to them ( imagine me going to a stanger and saying they're too skinny wtf) I just hope the members and her family give her only love and positivity during these times. She jusr came back froma rigged scandal with MNET and now she has to worry about her weight comments...
and their body positivity towards idols like hwasa doesn't even last all the time. the moment a fan feels threatened by her or her group, they slip right back into body shaming her and calling her fat.
cringe_aegyo tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work.
welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates.
I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
The fact that you can’t see the difference between the two comparisons is terrifying. One is healthy, one isn’t. We aren’t criticizing being skinny, we are worried for her health and want her to eat more not because of aesthetics, but because we don’t want her to collapse from malnutrition. Koreans, on the other hand, don’t care about health and just want their idols to starve to death to fit their beauty standards. Really, the two situations are so different. It’s not hypocritical at all.
Hwasa is healthy... Hitomi is clearly not. Yea we are happy to see more body types in the Korean industry than just tall and super skinny and the pressures Koreans put on their idols to starve themselves down to fainting is a WILD concept in the western community bc we would never do that.We accept people and if she chose to become skinny then whatever her choice shes an adult but if she was forced to or is developing a disorder thats when someone needs to step in but ive noticed in the kpop community most people do not intevine till its too late and they are too far gone...
I'm glad Hitomi gets so much support from her members, it seems that's finally staring to drain out the hate and the stress
Some time ago on a japanese tv show (I'm sorry, I don't remember the name and when it was), Hitomi explained how she lost weight by dieting and exercising. They showed a picture of her from before and she shared how many kgs she lost. The host was impressed. Another AKB member recalled a story from when Hii was still in Korea: Hii sent them a picture of some sweet bread and she was wondering why is Hii eating it while on diet, then the next message from Hii was "I'm looking at the bread". The segment was generally praising Hii for losing weight. The pressure to get as skinny as possible does not apply to Korea only, AKB just never required their members (especially non senbatsu girls) to be this skinny.
(If anyone knows the name and date of the show, please let me know)
OMGGGG i know exactly which show you are talking about! i literally watched it yesterday ( even tho i didn’t understand anything) but i could make out that they were literally praising her for becoming as thin as possible….which was very much disturbing to say the least since she already was thin.
@@tsuyuasui7297 Yeah, exactly! They made it sound a bit like she was overweight before, when she was already thin and of course beautiful
I’ve seen that in Japan this culture of “sacrifice” and starving (there’s a proper name for that but i can’t remember) it’s praised a lot bc it shows how much willpower a person has. Diet culture is also crazy insane in Japan
Everyone doesn’t need to be sexy, she is so cute and people had to ruin her self confidence
I don't think it's about being sexy at all, as female idols are regularly shamed for having sexy images. Any sexy girl group is failed to disband over cute ones. Korean society is entirely too judgemental and it probably wasn't even really because of her weight because she was already pretty thin but just because she was Japanese
I was waiting for this one. I feel as if all members of Izone have lost some weight. Chaeyeon seemed to tone her body, Eunbi noticeably lost weight on her face and body, but none of it is compared to Hitomi. She was at a healthy slim weight but she DRASTICALLY lost weight during this comeback. I hope she’s mentally and physically healthy
Shes so cute and pretty in every era and in every year, I love her and her voice ♡ never stop hitomi ♡♡♡♡
ほんと頑張り屋さんってこういう子のことを言うんだと思う。
She is a hard worker.
凄く努力家で真面目なんだろうなぁ。痩せると戻るのが怖くてキープしちゃいたくて頑張り続けるのかもね。ひーちゃんが幸せなら私は嬉しいよ。
Tbh I barely ever notice when people lose or gain weight unless it's drastic so when I watch your videos I'm always thinking "how is it people notice these subtle things?". But when I saw Hitomi during fiesta I knew something was off, and I'm not even much of an IZONE fan. I googled it but not many people had mentioned it at first. I'm glad you're covering it.
Edit: I’m not much of an IZONE fan, but I do really like a few of the members and Hitomi is one of them. I was looking into it out of pure concern for her and I really hope she can be healthy and see herself the way we all see her: beautiful.
Since when do people actually care about an idol's health. They only criticize or praise an idol whenever their appearance suit their tastes. Why can't they ever encourage their idols to love their own bodies be it thick or thin?? If you don't like how an idol looks or how their bodies fare, then don't watch their fancams or look at them at all or dont stan the group at all since they've got so much to say that aren't the least supportive
Natalies - tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work.
welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates.
I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
I love how you said thick or thin not just thick :)
I hope people get the message of the content of this video. Its not about idols being allowed to be fat, its about the girls being able to take care of their bodies in a healthy sustainable way. They had a lot of months to prepare for their comeback, and Hitomi decided to exercise more. Some are jumping on the bandwagon that shes crashdieting, but being able to lose that amount of weight in that time is very possible if staying in shape is literally part of their job description.
What DOES matter is what people say, because these days its like its never enough for idols. Calling her too skinny is no better than calling her too fat. Let her do what she wants for as long as what shes doing is healthy and it makes her happy 😞
Very enlightening video as always AMFG, especially on the unhealthy bias against J-idols. Looking forward to more!
Jihyo’s Heartshaker Well the thing is that what she is doing is not healthy. We call her too skinny because she is too skinny and we want her to be happy with a healthy body.
Jihyo’s Heartshaker tbh if I was her I would do my best to lose my cheeks also because you wanna try everything in your power that you are able to do to rise up in your career and to do that you need to capture the public and keep their attention as much as you can, main audience being the Korean audience with ever swaying preferences. its just one of the shit stuff about being an idol. you’re a slave to your audience and you have to keep appealing to them as much as possible or try to gain as much attention from them. once you lose your appeal to them you’re out. thus the consistent attempts to tailor yourself to their standards all the time no matter how extreme or unachievable it is. because that is what they demand from you and that’s what you have to comply to. Its damn sad but it is the harsh reality of “selling yourself” to the public for work.
welcome to the world of entertainment. same everywhere for all entertainers, be it idols, singers, performers or actors. You can say whatever you like about bringing revolution and change to the concepts and ways of the world but in the end if the public doesnt like it you cant do it. Or you could go ahead and fail in your career because it’s not popular and no one wants to support you buying your cds and stuff. I mean that’s where all your revenue comes from. so yeah. In the end no matter how much you hate doing what the public enjoys seeing you’ll still end up having to do it otherwise you’re not going to survive long in the industry before you crash. That’s just the bleak reality of it, be it for songs, movies or books. It is different for classical musicians but then and again the audience is different and the criticism is different too. especially for idols. Why do you think they exist in the first place? And especially why start from Korea? Its for people to put their ambitions of what they deem the ideal perfect person of onto and to be like “oh its achievable” or “oh this is what I aspire to become”. coming from a society so obsessed with perfection like Korea especially in your exterior and in your features, Im not surprised idols became popular in such a short time. But then the downfall of it is that people who only see this side of it fall into that trap. As people who are supposed to be the ideal image of what the public thinks they are supposed to be, every single little thing that they do comes under heavy scrutinisation by the public, and they are not allowed to live as normal people or as the people that they were as long as the camera is on them but they have to live how the public dictates their image to be which is how their company communicates to them to be. Not even their natural limitations are allowed to exist because they hAVe to be the ideal people. And thus plastic surgery to adjust their features to “perfect”, the number of people who couldnt take the pressure and committed suicide and the depression rates.
I dont know whether the jpop industry would have been better for Hitomi but what I do know is that in this industry she will never stop facing heavy criticism and hate because she wont ever be anywhere near what the Korean public dictates a conventional beauty to be. And not because it’s her fault but because of her genetics. Pop stars and idols in every country have pressure to adjust to a certain image but I feel that in Korea it is especially bad because of the obsession with perfection there. And the general public will never see you as human with emotions but just something to constantly push their aspirations on to and I feel like Japan might be a better option for her mentally and healthwise because genetics cant be overcome no matter how hard you work and eventually her hard work could wind up breaking her if she was using it as an excuse to run from the hate all the time.
I had anorexia and trust me I can tell this is not normal dieting 13:33
Me as a model, I feel heartwarming looking at Hitomi trying to be “better”. It’s so sad that there’s a lot of people don’t appreciate it. Telling her to gain weight won’t make her happy at all, trust me 😢😢
You clearly have some form of eating disorder. Seek help.
She was skinny before but these pictures side by side really showed how small her legs got
The two pics in the thumbnail really capture how drastic the change is.. We of course don't know all that happens behind the scenes, but I at least hope that the girls will keep in mind not to push themselves too hard.. It's important now more than ever to stay healthy- and happy! IZ*ONE fighting! ❤
I’m glad you’re talking about hitomi and her weight loss ty
Hitomi was my bias even before the debut of izone, I can really say that she extreamly looks different now vs before and its the same with nako as well
I love the fact that amidst of all the issues around Hitomi, the girls are supportive of her. They tell her she is pretty and that they are always there for her. It means a lot when the whole world is criticizing you.
13:59 the outcry about her body isn’t just from western fans tho. most of the japanese commenters on her fancams (and even the ones on this video!!) are worried about how she’s lost so much weight, although they bring it up in a more passive way.
To be honest I love IZONE, they’re all always supporting and loving eachother so much. Thank god Hitomi is in a group like this. 💟
the thing you said about the western culture of “encouraging” something to only suit their culture and tastes is so true !
Her cheeks was adorable and her body wasn’t fat at all. Jennie and Dahyun has adorable and chubbby cheeks too but their body still looks fit and fine..
@Sierra Studio its cos jennie and dahyuns body are fitter than hitomis and are more proportionate(more curvy) /ideal to the kbeauty standards.
I just wish that Hitomi knows that in whatever shape she is in, she is beautiful and wonderful in every way and that she should know that there are countless fans who support her for who she is, and not what she looks like. She really shouldn't have to force herself to diet trying to please the racist and unworthy people who don't know how to appreciate an amazing idol who is perfect the way she is.
Hitomi, I know you won't see this but just know that you are wonderful in any form or shape and I will always support you. I can't and won't force you to eat more, but I hope that you properly take care of yourself because your health comes before anyone criticism.
I really hope that you are healthy and well and are eating properly :)
You are an amazing person :) I love you so much
I hope Hitomi is always healthy, avoid negative comments, and don't forget to always pray, Hitomi! FIGHTING !!
i've always thought hitomi was one of the skinniest member ever since their debut because her arms were like bones(no hates i love hiichan) so i thought she'd never face body-shaming except for her cute cheeks that some people might criticize so i never thought she needed to lose weight. now that she lost too much weight, her arms got thinner even though it was extremely thin before.
I'm so happy for the way IZONE members treat each other. They are so loving and caring ❤️
Hitomi looks beautiful with or without the weight loss, lets just hope she and IZ*ONE are healthy and fine.
she was always my favorite, no matter the weight she's always adorable
もうこれ以上は痩せなくて大丈夫だよ感
You mentioned hate because of "Attack on Titan", and stated that it sparked hate becuase it's a Japanese show, but the issue is more that the creator of the show/manga denies the wrongdoings of the Japanese Empire during the 2nd World War, which is a touchy subject to say the least...
the reaction did seem to go a little bit deeper than "its because its a japanese show", now this makes more sense
SnK's mangaka is a neonazi don't support him :(
@@sandrasofia8120 he isnt tho, and theres no proof he is outside of speculation. its obvious from the mangas writing that he isnt
yeah but saying you're watching an anime doesnt mean your follow their political agenda ( I doubt the girl or even other readers know about the writer)...
@@fayegumi he did tho...
I'm so thankful that izone members are so supportive toward each other. They have such a good teamwork. It's so touching.😭😢
Funny that these knetz hates the J line when they basically loves Sana or Mina. Not even them throwing xenophobia selectively. I will be glad if Hitomi chose this to be happy than being pressured to do so. (I miss her Chubby cheeks tho. 😥)
I still believe that is none of the people buisness because Its her own body and haters should really check in the mirror there the broken puzzle here.
thank you for your words ! i feel the same.
Western fans look at thin idols with the same eyes korean fans look at chubby ones, they are not any better
I personally think the times she was in front of everyone on camera she didnt eat cause she was full or was cutting out things that they were giving to the group to have a healthy diet, or she was feeling homesick. And when asked what she bought at the store it was a place she wouldn't buy the stuff in her diet. Her posting her workout routine is a great thing cause now we all know why she lost weight slowly and it was for her to get her mind off of the negative things that was happening. I also believe American fans should not be rude to idols to gain weight cause that pressuring them, as it is to lose weight as well so plz stop it (I'm american too but I dont voice my concern for it would sound rude to them so I just let them do what they do until it get bad then I voice my opinion but i really don't)
If anyone wants to say something to me about this go ahead but just know you're childish if you say that its okay to voice your concern rudely to idols or to people in general. Remeber you're a stranger to them even if you are a fan and they know it you're still a stranger to them. You wouldnt want a stranger to just randomly tell you on the street you are too skinny or too fat plz stop
I agree
I totally agree. If I feel that an idol should stop with the constant weight losing, I wouldn’t be like “you’re too thin! Eat more!” That doesn’t sound right as that was what I heard when I grew up and it just made me feel worse about myself. Though if an idol was gaining too much weight, I’m not going to sugar coat it. It seems like that’s what we American fans tend to do because we accept all body types but some of us be shaming one or the other. I heard somewhere that this overweight person said that there’s this thing called “skinny privilege” that we skinny people get to eat more and stuff and it would be okay. Which isn’t the case, if we’re skinny, people will say that we might have a eating disorder or that we’re dieting and that’s not okay for our bodies. With overweight people, people say that they might have an eating disorder or just eat too much. It’s always the same. I think if we have to say something, we must say it respectfully.
Thank you! There's so many international fans shaming idols who lose weight or look too skinny, some of them are naturally skinny, some of them lost weight healthily but because they weren't active for a while it looks fast, and some did lose weight fat, but either way it would not help to talk crap about how ''sickly'' they look on all their videos and use your concern as an excuse. So many fans use their concern as an excuse to shame them, even when they're telling idols who have visible ABS to gain weight because they look to skinny to them.
I agree with you both and I really wish International fans would keep in mind that Asian females most of them are born naturally skinny
Honestly there's a very clear line between being concerned and calling a girl's body disgusting. Until now I only saw legit worry for not only Hitomi-chan but other members, wich makes me believe that most of those people are antis jumping on the bandwagon to shit on them. A big chunk of her routine is on pilates wich explains why she's thinner.
I loved that Hwasa and Hitomi comparison. The double standards of (esp) Westerners when it comes to judging Thin and Thick people are absolutely disgusting.
Except it was completely a trash one. Hwasa isn't overweight or fat, Hitomi has clearly lost more weight then is healthy. A better comparison would be that member of Super junior (I can't remember) his name. Even then it would be valid as he is obese or was as he has been losing weight. Not a double standard at all as she is clearly within her weight class for her build, Hitomi is not. The second picture though of people calling her trash were honestly disgusting and should have been reported.
ひいちゃん、ほそすぎない…？
This is has stop she is a amazing member of IZ ONE and she is healthy looking in IZ ONE debut
Hitomi is such a pretty girl no matter what her weight, that's just a number. I dont personally know the real reason why she needed to really loose so much weight but I hope it's not the crazy Korean standard, she's super young, her metabolism is probably still super fast so I dont think she would gain much weight at all. And the hypocrisy, a lot of people say
they're for body positivity but they criticize women who lose weight and are thin WTH?!?!? What's wrong if she wants to lose weight, we are not her so why are these people have the audacity to comment on her weight. If it's not your life then dont say something negative, just shut up. Let hitomi live her best life the way she sees fit.
I dont think people are trying to “shame” her into gaining weight but theyre actually conferned bc she looks unhealthily skinny
But straight out commenting " It's disgusting" or " I feel like puking" ain't gonna make the situation better
maddybg fine but this video is clearly not doing that, its just spreading awareness to how dangerous and how concerned we are about her weight loss
@@zoobiedk5442 watch the video then, and you will understand what he/she talking about
Hitomi Clearly getting hate not being concerned like they called Hitomi disgusting because her weight
@Rodri España None of the first comments were out of line. Firstly in Korean making sure people eat is a sign of respect, secondly these commenters making these concerns public actually lead to the company looking into it and making sure that she isn't actually starving herself or going through depression. Say what the fuck you want but it's not shaming nor is it wrong for fans to speak the truth, especially when it can lead to the idol getting help, which it actually has done before. Showing concern and shaming are two different things. The first comments shown were showing concern the second comments were shaming her.
@@maddybg That's not showing concern. Don't act like a fucking 2 year old, we all know the difference between the first set of comments and the second one. No one is saying that the second set of comments are ok, they aren't, they are disgusting and should have been reported. The fact is those comments are left by people who probably were the ones talking about her weight in the first place and hated on her, cussing her to be this thin. The second comments are disgusting but those aren't the majority of comments from international fans at all.
at first it seemed natural, but i'm now kind of worried, also, most of the members have lost some weight, Yujin and Wonyoung make me worried me too :(
anyways, i was waiting for your video of her, i really like your videos ^^
Melssa Salsa I have no idea what you said. But it’s only the younger members that worry me, because weight loss can stunt development and growth :( I’m speaking from experience
I'm a toxic I also look normal. But I’m not normal :’)
I hope she can recover fully, i love her chubby cheeks they are so cute!!!
Be strong Hitomi-chan!!!♡♡♡
hitomi has recently said in a Vlive that she’s been struggling and trying hard to intake her food only to realize that she cant consume gluten, which makes perfect sense with her weight loss.
That’s good to know.
that's actually relieving
Not being able to intake gluten does not lead to such a drastic weight loss in such a short amount of time, especially when if you take a look back at every other point in her life, she was the same relative weight. Listen, I’m not saying not to trust people but don’t be so gullible either. People with ED will say anything to get you off of their backs. If she truly wanted to gain weight she would have, trust me.
@@horses4555 now that you mention it- that’s true. I can’t intake gluten well but sure enough not losing as fast as she is. Idk. ED or not, I don’t think we should be taking this out of proportion.
@@horses4555 I’m sure there are more factors that play into her losing weight and not just her lack of gluten intake.
日本人いない(T_T)ひいちゃん本当痩せたね。。努力がすごい、、
Welcome to the kpop industry, Hitomi :(
I'm into jpop as well and we can clearly see the girls are allowed to have fun instead of looking perfect and in sync 24:7. You could see their reactions during Produce 48. Survival shows are overwall fucked up, but this one managed to be extra.
Hey guys I don't know if you know but hitomi wrote on private mail and personally said that she's fine and she would be more glad if you guys complimented her in her improvement on her dancing rather than talk about her weight loss. As far as we know she wants to lose weight no one is forcing her. Let's just let her be and support her no matter what. If you really love hiichan no matter what she does you'll support her as long as she's happy and not being forced in to it. She's still our cute hiichan after all
I feel like groups like TWICE and IZONE are walking so future generations of mixed cultures can run. Twice was the 1st Japanese mixed Korean group to get tons of genuine love in korea, now Izone is fighting for that. It's clear the members see each other as people, they all genuinely love each other and are family. They can teach lessons for their country about acceptance and not holding grudges 1000 years later when both parties are equally guilty of a past they're punishing their youth for.
Hitomi and a few other members looked a little under weight in fiesta era, probably due to everything going on at the time, but hitomi has always been quite small. She looks very toned as does everyone else in the most recent comeback, and she said herself said she was eating healthily. Stay safe and well iz*one!
The statements about “this ugly Japanese members came to Korea because they were the worst” or “they’re not as popular” really bother me. Sakura and Nako literally are top 12 AKB48 members proved by Sousenkyo and Hitomi was a rising star, even if she wasn’t popular. They actually had something to loose when decided to go to Korea. Knetz are the worst, not only to JP people, but in general, they’ve pushed Korean idols to ED, suicides, depression... at this point there should be a law against this type of behavior on Social Media
Hitomi's looks are unique which is charming, especially her cute cheeks
Kpop stans are just toxic, man. Yes, she might have lost a lot of weight but what's with the body shaming?
Hi I made a video about why kpop is making us insecure and I tought you might like it, u don't have to check it if u don't want to 🥺💖 love u fellow kpop fan have a nice day.
It's mostly korean netizens. They are VERY harsh and cruel with basically everyone.
@@oc3607 nah, k-netizens do the fat shaming and i-netizens do the skinny shaming in my opinion. the Hwasa example in this video explains it quite well.
@@oc3607 Nope, i-Netizens (mainly in North American) skinny shame the heck out of tons of idols and it's disturbing how they don't see how badly it affects people. Lisa, Sunmi, Jimin (AOA), Rosé, and Suga (to name a few) get lots of messages that they are too skinny and they need to eat more from i-Netizens. But at the same time, they get hate for gaining weight from K-Netizens (thinking back to Suga from 2019 when he gained some weight and then lost it because of backlash).
That doesn't mean that there isn't i-Netizens that fat shame or K-Netizens that shinny shame, but i-Netizens are obsessed with "bigger is healthier" (not the case with idols such as Lisa, Sunmi and Rosé) and K-Netizens are convinced that "smaller is prettier" (not always true, such as Hani (from EXID) and Uee)
*This post is not meant to shinny shame or fat shame any idols. All idols mentioned are used as examples of how harsh people can be when it comes to beauty standards and should not be taken out of context*
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Not really. K-fans mostly fat shaming idols and i-fans usually skinny shaming idols. Like i was watching fancam of some idol and many i-fans just straight up calling them skeleton like wtf some even called them ugly because they are too thin. When i told them to stop skinny shaming, they will use ‘oH i aM wOrRieD aBoUt TheIR HeAlTh’ excuse. People need to realise that what they did was skinny shaming and fat shaming. It’s not cool to fat shaming and it’s not nice to skinny shaming either.
本人的には努力して今のスタイルになったと思うんだけど、AKB時代ですら細いけどまだ健康的でいいよ…
韓国のアイドルはスタイルいい人ばっかだから色々悩んだ上でこうなっちゃったのかな。心も身体も元気ならいいんだけど。
sigh, i don't know why people like those who criticize ppl with their weight and nationality exist. all i want is Tomi to be happy and healthy. thank God her members are always there to help her.
Ik a lot of people were worried about wonyoung's weight loss during iz*one's promotions (and they're valid, especially now), but I feel like people should've also kept an eye out on hitomi and even yuri. I was especially shocked when I saw an old fancam of yuri and realized her weight loss as well.
I know, I was watching past videos and was getting worried again... none of them have gone back. Wony got even skinnier, and although she gained more weight again, it still seems concerning... I'm just worried for their current mental health and life quality, and even more so for how their lives will be in the future if they don't take care of themselves more... it's a harsh industry...
Waitttt... she is considered ugly.... what is going on....
her cheeks , her teeth amd her pretty round face made me interested in the group... honestly....
SHE WAS THE CUTESSTTT during la vien en rose era... im crying ....
Gosh she just said she likes an anime and Knetz actin like she insulted the whole country and called their mom fat
what you don't know is that they are not Korean netizens. they are called "femi-Nazi" in S.Korea.
they insult every korean man and pretty or cute girl.
Binnie hello please do not use that word. only nazis should be called nazis. do not use that word ironically or in a place where it is not meant to be as it is highly offensive.
Binnie also you sound like an incel
@@lindseysg i don't use that word but it's true they are called "femi-nazi" in S.Korea.
they always spread all kinds of hatred. even girls don't like them. watch that video
do you think they are normal? haha
Binnie they’re still korean.
*she's really pretty you know? its just the society is full of judgements*
She is beautiful!!! Reminds me of a anime character! 😊 but her legs are super thin. Not judging her as long as she is happy on how she looks.,,
Saying "I hope she's healthy" or " I hope she's happy and confident." To avoid getting your fav criticized, which you assume is hate, does not change a thing. She's going through hungry in order to fit in this stupid beauty standard, when she was totally beautiful and healthy before. I know she's the victim but there's nothing such as Healthy nor happiness in something like this. Look at her damn legs. Shes literally underweight to reach a irreal body and she needs help. Stop normalizing aggressive diets.
She literally said she's been gorging trying to reach your expectations of her and gain weight. For that, she's been forcing herself to eat 4 meals a day. Another thing is she is allergic to gluten which she found out which also contributed to the weight loss. When will you western fans get off your high horse and stop interfering in eastern things
"She's literally underweight", ok?, and I'm pretty sure she's completely aware of it, you're not helping
Funnily enough, you think you're helping with your comments that damage her self esteem and mental health? She is trying. What do you want her to do when she's having trouble gaining weight? Get a surgery or something? It's like what do you guys want her to do exactly. Ridiculous how you think your comments pointing out her weight at all are helping when she already knows like she isn't blind. Egotistic honestly as if your expectations are the only "valid" ones. What can she do if she simply can't gain weight simple as that...
@@elithluxe7568 I thought the person you responded to was talking about the original commenter and agreeing with you though?
@@fuyosi8399 oh for some reason I didn't realize. Guess I just completely skimmed through it last time or tagged the wrong person accidentally. Let me edit my comment
Hitomi need love, she is beautiful the way she is, fat or skinny, she is so cute and pretty ♡