You forgot Greta’s accomplice - the Gerudo selling regular clothes at the clothes shop in town. If you try to enter behind the curtain behind her clothes there’s some dialogue from her saying you can’t go in there, but if you’re a special member you can go through the side door.
I was about to say, what if it’s just a villain like Blind in disguise? It could very easily be that she is a Yiga member disguised as a Gerudo woman, and not only sells her wares, from more inappropriate attire (come on, skintight “sneaking” clothes? I think it’s just the Gerudo equivalent of lingerie just using a more family friendly term, “armor”), to straight up illegal things, all to make dough and use it for illegal reasons like getting materials for yiga armor, weapons, the like. That stuff takes resources, resources a merchant like her could get her hands on. Plus, that would explain why she’s in Gerudo Town, a town nearby, that’s full of warriors. It’d be easy to sneak around, buy weapons and the like, if you pass as one of them. And if someone suspects something? Oh, she’s just a lingerie shop owner, no wonder she plays it on the down-low, privacy and whatnot. It’s the perfect cover. And… come on, she could be lying about “the sun not agreeing with her”, to explain why she’s never working at night; she’s out doing Yiga stuff, running goods to her clan, in the night where it’s the perfect time to do it. It’s probably an excuse, cause… come on, Gerudo are literally a people who live only in the desert. Either she got the worst of the genetic lottery, or she’s lying.
something I've noticed, the gerudo are often shown wearing very reveling clothes. the reason why people in desert cultures wear covering flowing robes and the like is to keep your skin safe from the hot winds, both to stop sweating (the largest cause of water loss in the desert) and to block sandstorms tearing at your skin. this indicates that the gerudo: 1) don't sweat 2) have much thicker skin than humans them having thick skin makes sense in hindsight. they are a warrior culture and are often described as being very tough and durable.
Looking at the type of armor on sale, it's rather more on the appealing and spicy side rather than functional. I mean, shirtless armor (playing as the sole gerudo male, thus king?) skin tight "sneaking" (gimp) suit? If you take off the family friendly vaneer of armor, then you can see why other people wouldn't wear it in public. My theory is that gerudo women buy the clothes for their husbands to wear... in the bedroom, shall we say. TL;DR the Gerudo Secret shop is the Gerudo equivelent of Victoria's Secret, and they want to spare the young girl's innocent eyes. EDIT: Pandora's box has been opened. Those who go into the comments, beware!
To add onto these NSFW implications, I think Gerudo vai wear it to roleplay heterosexual stuff in the bedroom. Like if they aren't ready to go out into the world yet or just can't atm but they're into men and have needs, then it'll be up to some vai to play the part, y'know?
I thought by the dialogue that it was a Orgy or Switchers related club, were people expressed their sexuality freely. This is just my imagination, but it wouldn't be rare to have alternate sexualities in a big community.
I think she actually just has an obsession with stal creatures and isn't actually a vampire of some sort, I mean she sells the radiant armor and when upgraded by the great fairy, can be be used to become friendly with stal enemies.
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
@@danielparsley3675 According to lore presented in Ocarina of Time, Gerudo males are born exactly once every 100 years, or rather * were * born. No game since has really addressed it, and they seem to be unaware of this fact in the “present” of BotW. Since a century is rare but not long enough for a culture to forget something so huge, either (1) Ganondorf’s refusal to properly die has messed with whatever reincarnation magic thing would cause the birth of a new Voe, and there will not be one again until his “slot” is opened (2) the once-a-century male gerudo was never natural in the first place, but somehow ritually created by Gerudo magic or weird biological stimuli that were kept secret in the Gerudo royal family (or by their court witches Kotake & Koyume) and either was lost or simply stopped being used and was forgotten after OoT, or (3) this fact is being deliberately hidden, probably by either a Ganondorf-serving monarchist cult or the Gerudo royals who do not want competitors for the throne. If (1) she’s definitely NOT a voe, if (2) s/he could be if the secret rites were rediscovered or never lost but merely kept secret, but probably not, if (3) s/he is almost certainly a secret voe, whether hidden from birth by the rulers or the “ganonists”.
Greta selling armor to the Yiga Clan is quite crazy, but I think it would be really cool if she did! I always wondered why there is a shop selling clothing for voe in a town exclusive to women... Anyway, have a nice vacation! :)
You never know, maybe we'll be able to get a yiga outfit from Greta in the sequel. Would be pretty crazy if this was basically confirmed, but other Gerudo buying the clothes for their mates also makes plenty of sense.
@@allenperry739 Wow, that's a really good idea! Imagine if we could go into the hideout while pretending to be one of them. That would be amazing for a (side) Quest!
I'm inclined to think it is other Gerudo women. If the Yiga were her customers, why don't any of them dress this way; why doesn't ANYONE else dress this way? If we at least saw Yiga masquerading as Gerudo, in the desert (or as Zora/Gorons), maybe I could see them getting into town, and getting gear, but they don't, and it wouldn't make them any stealthier, as it's STILL male armor, and not for women. If it was just for the element protection, I'd be more inclined to imagine them dressed as Hylian women, and purchasing/stealing the earrings from that Gerudo shop, instead, allowing them to maintain their traditional attire, or Hylian civ getup, and just wear some earrings, or a necklace, which this game shows are normal for people. I think the Gerudo in Tarrey Town also sells Desert Voe armor, after that quest is completed, so maybe it's okay outside of town. In the end, maybe it's Ganon's fault. Since there are no other male Gerudo, and certain agencies; possibly even the Gerudo themselves have taken steps to keep him from returning, maybe it's illegal because someone who might want such attire is Gdorf, or someone working for him. Making male Gerudo gear might be seen as paying homage to him, and they've had it with Ganon. As for the darkness, it's a secret shop, so no peek holes means no light. The luminous armor doesn't work as well in the daytime, and sunlight might even be bad for it, lore wise. If she needs to always be in her shop; never know when a customer might actually sneak by, or sneak out at night to get resources for, and test the luminous armor, maybe she just can't be as active in the day. If people want to see it work before paying,, that means buying said armor at night. Maybe the aura of the luminous stone has soaked into her. It's been theorized that it glows with the souls of the departed, so maybe she isn't as fond of the light, but I assume she's st least no more a monster than Kilton.
The guy in Kara Kara Bazaar who you buy the women's clothing from could be a middleman for Greta's business I imagine the Yiga would want women's clothing for spying on the Gerudo
I'm so I think her dark secret is the making of the radiant armor because you know it is connected to DEATH and Souls and could have some tabu rituals to make it. Also it could tie her to being magic allowing her to use dark magic to extend her life witch could explain your theory
Yeah, and its the only armor set in the game that requires money and a material. There's the earrings too technically but they're accessories, not a complete armor set
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
What if it’s just a business that had been going on and run by someone else before her and her eyes are just adopted to the dark bc everything has to be covered up to keep it secret
Why did you jump to vampire and not the twili? She likes the evening (or twilight) and the sun hurts her like how midna was hurt in twilight princess!!!!
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
tbh I just always assumed there was a significant population of Gerudo who liked dressing up as men in secret/in their own homes and on my second playthrough, I assumed Greta's secret was that she's the once-every-hundred-years male Gerudo, and just didn't go out in public to not get spotted.
I think that Greta had been the mother of a gerudo voe & she had him fostered out or her husband raised him outside the Gerudo Town, his true identity being kept secret from everyone. The armour was made with her son in mind, as for who this son may be.... well, who do you think gave Link his Gerudo Vai Disguise?
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
May I just say something: You forgot to add one detail to your conclusion of her being a vamp. She sells Luminous Clothing. Luminous stones are rumored to light up st night because they were infused with the souls of the dead. It's possible that if she really was a vampire, she didnt drink blood, but harvested some customers souls from their bodies to make the luminous clothes. Or she could have harvested them from the stones themselves. Probably why she needs them to make the clothes. Also: I seen some comments about the yiga not buying voe clothing: The yiga footsoldiers have very identical hair style that Link has when he wears the hat from the outfit. Maybe they only use it on certain occasions or just for their hair designs and heat resistant properties from the head gear.
@@MaximillianRobesphere Actually, that's confirmed in the game. Its description is "This mysterious mineral gives off a pale blue glow in the dark, which some believe to be the souls of the dead." If you look closely at Rhoams and the Champions spirits, there are flames around them. The same colour which also confirms it. Also, if Ledo talks to Link, he will ask for 10 Luminous Stones in exchange for a diamond (or 2 for the first time). He then says that Zora's Domain is made from Luminous Stones. So its confirmed that the Domain was created using crystalized form of souls. Thats pretty dark.
@@MaximillianRobesphere Yunobo uses Daruk's Protection. It was passed down via the family bloodline. It wouldn't necessarily mean he is a spirit or has any other connection to the spirit world other than his ancestors power.
I love the descendent of the blind thief idea! Idk if this has been suggested yet: but what if she’s a moblin? There was that one time in Minish Cap we had to light a place up to reveal an intruder was a monster in hiding. Also, poke fun at the numerous moblin’s throughout the series that hide peacefully. Plus, it would go nicely with your immortal idea given monsters don’t die-die. They just get resurrected every blood moon. If Greta got killed- she’d just have to wait a generation and walk back in!
I'm wondering if Greta underwent a similar process to the Sheikah monks? Maybe she learned it from the Yiga Clan? Here's a thought: maybe she has intentions of birthing the next voe? Not necessarily for any nefarious purposes. She may be of the opinion that outlawing voe in their society has removed something important from their cultural fabric? Or, she may be secretly in league with the Yiga, and specifically intends to mother the next Ganondorf? Or not; it could be that she and the Yiga know where Ganondorf's semi-corpse is at and wants to ensure he has plenty to wear when he's revived. That brings up another question: How did she know what the desert voe armor should look like? Going to go examine what Ganondorf is wearing in the BoTW2 trailer very carefully now lol.
Tbh, we’ve never actually seen Ganondorf wear that kind of armour. Given the size of it, I’m wondering if it’s traditional armour for young Gerudo Voe? I’m fairly sure we see the children of Gerudo in BoTW wearing something fairly simular. I wouldn’t be too surprised if the designs for it were kept stored alongside the traditional Vai clothing
While it would be interesting, we *do* see a Yiga member unmasked, and...he's 100% a Sheikah. (Plus, canonically, there aren't that many male Gerudo anyway so it would be weird for there to suddenly be enough to be a non-insignificant proportion of the Yiga.)
@A B two things: one they got kicked out because vias thought they were yiga. Two they did not like the rule so they became rebels like in the revolutionary war.
That last part about her being something more than human is quite interesting. An affinity for darkness, hates sunlight, and apparently has a few skeletons in the closet doesn't paint a pretty picture. I know this sounds crazy, but what if she is a disciple of Ganondorf? An affinity for darkness is typically associated with monsters. In BotW, stal enemies and Kilton are the only things that come out in the Night. Another thing is that she sells Voi armor, perhaps she is waiting for the day that Ganondorf returns, or at least pays respects to him. And one last thing, the memory of Ganondorf isn't entirely gone. Urboosa says that there are tales that Calamity Ganon took the form of a Gerudo at one point, obviously he was originally a Gerudo, but after so long they likely believe that Calamity Ganon was always his true form. Also in AoC, Astor of course has the Gerudo symbol on his attire, and is a disciple of Ganon. It could be that Greta is also a disciple of Ganon, who uses dark magic to prolong her life and youth at the cost of being restricted to the Darkness...or there's really nothing and I'm digging deeper than this already is.
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
There's another character who can't go out in the light though. What if she occasionally trades with Kilton and occasionally uses monster ingredients and is starting to change like he did. Maybe Kilton can also help her distribute some of her goods to the Yiga and other races who want to embrace their wives' culture.
There's a much simpler solution for her to make the Yiga their suits. Someone else made them a hundred years ago, and the Yiga have commissioned her to make them in the present and wants them to look the same.
There is also an even BIGGER hole for this because it’s shown in totk that they use non-gerudo tailors, but its mostly closed up because Greta could also be working so who knows.
interesting theory! one thing I want to add is that in Terry town the lady who opens up a shop there sells the same male gerudo armor as Greta. I always assumed Gretas costumers were gerudo women who wanted to present more masculine sometimes but im sure she has different costumers like you said. The no sun thing Is rly strange.
While hindsight is 20/20, I find it funny that TotK confirms that the Gerudo HATE the Yiga, thus making it very unlikely for them to be a potential customer of that shop (well, except that that would explain more of why the sales are illegal). I'd say a more likely secondary customer is the only "man" who ever was confirmed to sneak into Gerudo city, the one "Voe" who gets you the "Vai" outfit for entering the town in the first place.
There have been vampire-like enemies, Vire. And Ganondorf is also a long lived Gerudo so there's a bit more evidence for either of those. But just a thought... in Zelda 2, some of Ganon's minions could take human forms and would transform back into monsters when talked to. Not unlike how the Yiga do in BotW. And that said, some Yiga do appear to you as a woman travelers. So they would not even have that hard of a time getting in. And Greta could be a monster in disguise. The sunlight thing also reminds me of Blind the Theif from LttP. Blind took the form of a maiden until exposed to sunlight. So maybe she does have a reason to avoid light that doesn't necessarily mean she has to be a vampire.
I've looked at the video, and at some of the comments here, and I might have an explanation for this. Greta makes Yiga clothing, sure, but she doesn't need to be an immortal creature to do that. Her mother, grandmother etc. might've run the store before her, and now it's up to Greta to do the same. The reason she can't go out is because the people outside may know her face, so she has to hide. Maybe she can go out at night though, seeing as most Gerudo are asleep by then. That also makes an opportunity for something else: During the night, Greta sells Yiga clothing to them. She meets up with someone (maybe a Yiga, I've seen someone say that might be the guy who sells Link the female clothes in the Kara Kara bazaar) and sells them the Yiga armor. However, if that's the case, why would she need a shop in the Gerudo Fort? My explanation would be similar to what MNB said, which is that they gift the clothes to their husbands. They would still need to buy the desert-suited clothing somewhere if they wanted them to visit sometime (doesn't need to be in the fort, the Kara Kara bazaar is a pretty easy meet-up point). Something that I can't really understand still, is the Luminous armor. The stones Greta uses to make them (Luminous Stones) are said to contain the souls of the dead. Of course, the stones support the "Greta only goes out at night" theory, because it's just way easier to spot the luminous ores in the dark. But why does Greta have them? Why does she sell those clothes? Possibly, she has a set for herself, to have a little bit of light during her nightly travels. But that doesn't explain why she sells them, or even has them in the first place. The shop could also be a masquerade; she needs a place to live for herself, without coming across as suspicious. That's why she sells the Voe armor, and the luminous armor. Of course, she makes more money because of it, but it's also a good solution. She needs a place to live, the Gerudo women want her clothing for men, setting up a shop is a win-win. *TL;DR:* Greta's not immortal, but does make Yiga armor. She goes out at night to sell them to the clan, and collects materials for her armors in the meantime. She lives in the Gerudo Fort, so she can sell more, and has a place to live.
This is actually a SUPER fascinating theory I've never considered. I always thought it was illegal in like, a blasphemous sense. We learned that any Gerudo MAN becomes the leader, so male gerudo clothes kinda seemed inappropriate in their culture. But i mean, these are some solid takes here.
I kind of went down this rabbit hole. I focused in on her name, which means pearl. I know the pearl is associated with the moon and that's about as far as I wound up getting into it. Might be fun to dig a bit more and see if something interesting pops up in the pearl mythos. ... or it might not bring anything and I'm overthinking it
Interestingly enough, I watched Stampy’s playthrough of BotW since I was already familiar with him (I don’t watch him a lot, but I’ve watched a non-Minecraft playthrough of a game called Broken Age and before that during the Minecraft boom I have heard of him but don’t really watch him) instead of another let’s-player I don’t know anything about. It was a pretty good playthrough and my first exposure into the wider Zelda universe (I have heard of Zelda, Breath of the Wild most of all, but haven’t really researched into it until an offhand comment I heard from someone before finally deciding to search for playthroughs out of curiosity). Not gonna lie, I have Stampy to thank for being a part of the Zelda fandom, because if I didn’t watch his playthrough, I wouldn’t be playing Zelda today. Thought I’d share a funny story.
Funny, I was re-playing Botw for who knows how many times at this point. And when she said "we both have something to hide" I was curious what she meant. Awesome video!!
5:51 actually there are females because around Hyrule are a few female Yiga And I am aware of Kohga disguising himself as Urbosa in AOC however there is no point on disguising yourself as a certain gender of traveller that no one would particularly find suspicious. The Yiga could just be them without the uniform and instead be wearing traveler gear
Great video Bandit! My ideas in no particular order: 1. She is a man disguised as a woman. 2. She has a widespread black market operation and the store in Gerudo Town is only one part of a bigger network. 3. She is into necromancy with the whole Radiant Set, Luminous Stones and “Souls of the dead” thing.
She could have inherited the business from an ancestor or a relative maybe? It would explain how the yiga could get their armour 100 years ago An explanation for her not liking the sun could be because she’s stayed in the dark shop for a while cause it needs to be kept secret so her eyes aren’t used to the sun or bright lights in general seeing as the lights in her shop are dim Just a theory -w- (Tho I’m totally down for her being a vampire)
i love MNB for being brave enough to speculate and daydream and come up with absolutely wild yet incredibly entertaining theories. every other zeldatuber insists on gathering tons of evidence and not taking shots in the dark based on their own imagination. but these theories are fun enough that they convince me
I always thought the gerudo woman bought men's clothes because some of them identified as male but are not allowed to be themselves because it was against the law. After Ganondorf ruined the Gerudo reputation no males were allowed not even the Gerudos born male or the ones who identified as male. So the Gerudos weren't just woman because of biology but now as their national identity.
Since about every 100 years a Gerudo male was born, I kinda expected one or two of the Gerudo we found would be biologically male but just dress and publicly identify as female just to not get thrown out and abandoned. Eventually, I just ended up assuming Greta was biologically male and ran the secret club to not get discovered, since anyone who went in there to call out Greta would have to admit they were there buying male clothing.
@@NikkiTheViolist the guy that sells you the female Gerudo clothes may have been a male Gerudo. Yeah he's not as tall or muscular but we don't know if that is just biological difference between the male and female Gerudos and he's still in great shape. He may dress in woman's clothes simply to blend in or he identifies with the Gerudos so much that he identifies as female. With Greta I thought she was biologically a woman but identifies as a man and was inspired by this to make male Gerudo clothes but you might be right instead.
@@NikkiTheViolist most of the characters that refer to him as Hylian Vai are Gerudo women while Benja only say a man. If there is as much stigma of Gerudo men as I think there is and the Gerudos of the outpost know he is a Vai then the last thing he wants is for them to know he is a Gerudo. So he makes up the lie that he is Hylian Vai so the Gerudos don't kick his ass. He is also one of the few people that can sell you Gerudo clothes. The only other way to obtain the clothes is the Gerudo city and Terry town which has a Gerudo citizen. This implies that only Gerudos know how to make these clothes knowledge he could have gain from his Gerudo mother. The word Hylian Vai is highlighted in multiple conversations. Why go to so much trouble to convince us he is Hylian? Unless the game wants you to question the phrase.
Huh, I always thought that the secret of the club was that there were actually male-bodied (voe) Gerudo in Gerudo Town disguised as females just like Link. That the demand was for better fitting clothing to wear at home or in private. We got the female version of the armor from one such voe who preferred dressing as a woman after all, and his skin tone and appearance were very similar to a typical Gerudo vai. It's been awhile since Ocarina of Time, but male Gerudo were seen as bad omens then (or potential leaders of great power, Oh Hi holder of the Triforce of Power!). However, male-bodied Gerudo were a possibility. I don't think it's ever really mentioned what happens to voe who are born to or as Gerudos in Breath of the Wild... but, I could imagine crossdressing becoming a sort of norm, as in "No, I'm not a Gerudo male. I'm not Gannondorf's reincarnation." A way of rejecting that once connection Gannondorf had to the Gerudo by the other Gerudo, yet allowing a male-bodied Gerudo to live their lives peacefully. Just as vai rather than voe. A potential huge cultural mess of misgendering, but necessary to try and prevent Gannon reincarnating? Instead of Gerudo men being born rarely, it became there is no such thing as a male Gerudo?
I always figured it was so taboo to sell men's armor in Gerudo Town because of Ganondorf, as well as why men in general aren't allowed to enter the town. Since he was the only male Gerudo and tried to destroy Hyrule (and succeeded this time), they want to eliminate anything relating to male Gerudo.
ITS GOT TO BE CONFIRMED in totk when you wear the yiga armor in the club she says she supposes every one has secrets and she says she wont tell anyone! WHY WOULD A GERUDO NOT TELL OTHER GERUDO THERES A YIGA RUNNING AROUND! Yeah maybe they want sales but why would she let that around they’re a threat to society unless shes a yiga herself or she’s working for them 😱😱
It's true that they all look male but some of the female travelers you talk to turn out to be yiga in disguise. It's not unheard of for female ninjas to strap their boobs down though
I tend to agree with this. Greta always seemed kinda sus when I was playing, and it's possible she has other stock that she only shows to her regular loyal customers, the Yiga. Somehow I can't see Master Kohga at a sowing machine stitching up a suit to fit that belly of his :)
My biggest problem with the yiga possibility is that the tapestry from 10 000 years ago depicts the yiga in the exact same outfit. However for all we know the business of the secret club could've been passed down across generations
I had a theory with Kilton that connects to yours... Kilton is part monster, therefore he can make armor to blend in with monsters and society. If you upgrade the radiant armor, you can walk almong the stal monsters. If Greta is part monster she can make monster clothing like Kilton, and to add on, Kilton only comes in nighttime... When it's dark and the sun is not shining. Blood moons also happen at night to recreate monsters because it's dark... And monsters must like darkness. Bonus: Monsters of different kinds get along, so yigas and vampires could too because it's common. And vampires may be a new monster, but Kilton is too. There both special, and I think they connect. Greta and Kilton are very mysterious. And that's why what she's doing is secret and illegal...
I assumed the simplest explanation. Her clients are Gerudo women… who want to wear Voe clothing, secretly. You need to cross dress to enter town, it stands to reason maybe townspeople wish to cross dress themselves. For many reasons. After all, it’s Gerudo who know the password, and don’t like that you’re eavesdropping on their secret discussion. As for the “size” of the clothing, I chalk that up to video game logic, all armor fits everyone.
“The bright light of the sun doesn’t agree with me. I haven’t paid my respects to it in many years...” Perhaps the sun refers to the cleansing light of Hylia. At least figuratively. Maybe Greta is either ashamed to be seen in broad daylight or is afraid that Hylia will smite her because of her mis-deeds. But this is just a game theory Thx! P.s. the editing is looking good, i like the immersive intro, it was fun. Keep being creative!!
I just randomly thought: Would they allow non-binary people in Guerudo Town? I don’t think so, since I’m pretty sure they said they only allow women not that they don’t allow men but I don’t know.
I was wondering the same thing, would non binary people get kicked out or would they be able to stay, same thing with trans men. If I was a gerudo and came out as nonbinary would I still be able to live in gerudo town or would I have to live somewhere else?
Enjoy your vacation, my brother Mask! I'm going to be taking some time off from everything, myself, with tuberculosis and ending a relationship going on over on my end. You've certainly earned some good time off, sir!
@@damagedcharizardcollector1195 Greta is actually a man. He just keeps portraying himself as a Woman because otherwise he would be Banned. Thats his little safe space where he can Dress however he likes and makes masculine clothes for other folks
I assumed that she was selling direct to disguised Hylian men. She sees right through your disguise when no one else does. Given their similarities she might have made the Hylian Vai garments that you walk in with. She might strait up be supporting human trafficking into Gerudo town.
I feel like she is totally selling to the Yiga but maybe it was passed down to her. I feel like “the sun doesn’t agree with me” is more of a euphemism about not bringing her likely despised business to the light of town if it was ever found out. Also, maybe the yiga buy in the dead of night to avoid having to pass as hylian? But vampire Gerudo is pretty metal so I’m going with that too lmao
Going the vampire route, she could be some kind of undead (aside from vampire) that uses makeup and perfumes to hide traces of it. If she is actually some kind of vampire that would be rather interesting, since we've seen all manner of undead in the Zelda series.
I think the obvious answer would be that Greta is a voe... that's it, no other secret to hide. Maybe (s)he got to stay inside a house not to scare the other Gerudos, because of the Ganondorf thing in their history?
Greta is honestly one of my favorite NPCs and that's mainly cuz of a roleplay I did years ago and hearing the possibility that she could be something similar to a vampire is amazing and I LOVE this theory
***TOTK SPOILER ALERT!!!*** Now, that is pretty curious and plausible theory. Especially, with something that happens in TotK. We need someone who went through the whole game to confirm that, but.... With the whole Gerudo City living in an underground bunker and City being abandoned (not sure if Greta's still in GSC or in the bunker) Yiga are now shown kidnapping fashion students &designers to create their Yiga armors. And, I know that overall it's just a plot to allow Link to infiltrate Yiga hideout, but... ...What if Yiga are in dire need of new seamstresses, because Greta is in the bunker and can't just go to her shop?
What's your favorite set of armor from Breath of the Wild?
Also - thank you guys for watching! See you in a couple weeks
The dark link outfit
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The cover art armor looks badass
The barbarian set is my favorite
My favorite set is the one Link wears when he is in the shrine of ressurrction
Oh wait
There Are plenty of female travelers who are really yiga. Every yiga of the same type looking the same always struck me as a fear tactic.
They're disguises. It's not hard to believe that some of them are pretending to be female travellers
They can teleport into the store.
I just stopped talking to the slightly weird looking travelers without names because I don’t have time for you yiga clan people
Additional Note on that.
Especially considering Master Kogha disguised himself as Urbosa in Ago of Calamity
@@facelesssmoon9765 lol same
You forgot Greta’s accomplice - the Gerudo selling regular clothes at the clothes shop in town. If you try to enter behind the curtain behind her clothes there’s some dialogue from her saying you can’t go in there, but if you’re a special member you can go through the side door.
What? Really? I'm going to have to go try this now!
@@pixywings When you go into the secret shop, the curtain actually isn't there and it actually doesn't lead to anything.
"It's a secret to everybody." Can't get enough of the Zelda 1 references.
What if Greta is a descendant of Blind the Thief from A Link to the Past?
I caught that too, and never even really played Zelda 1!
I was about to say, what if it’s just a villain like Blind in disguise? It could very easily be that she is a Yiga member disguised as a Gerudo woman, and not only sells her wares, from more inappropriate attire (come on, skintight “sneaking” clothes? I think it’s just the Gerudo equivalent of lingerie just using a more family friendly term, “armor”), to straight up illegal things, all to make dough and use it for illegal reasons like getting materials for yiga armor, weapons, the like. That stuff takes resources, resources a merchant like her could get her hands on. Plus, that would explain why she’s in Gerudo Town, a town nearby, that’s full of warriors. It’d be easy to sneak around, buy weapons and the like, if you pass as one of them. And if someone suspects something? Oh, she’s just a lingerie shop owner, no wonder she plays it on the down-low, privacy and whatnot. It’s the perfect cover. And… come on, she could be lying about “the sun not agreeing with her”, to explain why she’s never working at night; she’s out doing Yiga stuff, running goods to her clan, in the night where it’s the perfect time to do it. It’s probably an excuse, cause… come on, Gerudo are literally a people who live only in the desert. Either she got the worst of the genetic lottery, or she’s lying.
never thought of that
something I've noticed, the gerudo are often shown wearing very reveling clothes. the reason why people in desert cultures wear covering flowing robes and the like is to keep your skin safe from the hot winds, both to stop sweating (the largest cause of water loss in the desert) and to block sandstorms tearing at your skin. this indicates that the gerudo:
1) don't sweat
2) have much thicker skin than humans
them having thick skin makes sense in hindsight. they are a warrior culture and are often described as being very tough and durable.
Looking at the type of armor on sale, it's rather more on the appealing and spicy side rather than functional.
I mean, shirtless armor (playing as the sole gerudo male, thus king?) skin tight "sneaking" (gimp) suit? If you take off the family friendly vaneer of armor, then you can see why other people wouldn't wear it in public.
My theory is that gerudo women buy the clothes for their husbands to wear... in the bedroom, shall we say.
TL;DR the Gerudo Secret shop is the Gerudo equivelent of Victoria's Secret, and they want to spare the young girl's innocent eyes.
EDIT: Pandora's box has been opened. Those who go into the comments, beware!
If its like a sex shop bro i dont wanna see the rest of her stock if ya know what am saying
To add onto these NSFW implications, I think Gerudo vai wear it to roleplay heterosexual stuff in the bedroom. Like if they aren't ready to go out into the world yet or just can't atm but they're into men and have needs, then it'll be up to some vai to play the part, y'know?
@@CoraMaria love that, though I’m still convinced that at least 95% of all gerudos are lesbians
Excuse me i gonna go to church an purge the demon inside of me
I thought by the dialogue that it was a Orgy or Switchers related club, were people expressed their sexuality freely. This is just my imagination, but it wouldn't be rare to have alternate sexualities in a big community.
I think she actually just has an obsession with stal creatures and isn't actually a vampire of some sort, I mean she sells the radiant armor and when upgraded by the great fairy, can be be used to become friendly with stal enemies.
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
I’ve always wanted to know what she meant when she said, that they both had something to hide
I always just thought she was a dude
@@danielparsley3675 I kinda thought that too
Probably her shop lol
@@danielparsley3675 According to lore presented in Ocarina of Time, Gerudo males are born exactly once every 100 years, or rather * were * born. No game since has really addressed it, and they seem to be unaware of this fact in the “present” of BotW. Since a century is rare but not long enough for a culture to forget something so huge, either (1) Ganondorf’s refusal to properly die has messed with whatever reincarnation magic thing would cause the birth of a new Voe, and there will not be one again until his “slot” is opened (2) the once-a-century male gerudo was never natural in the first place, but somehow ritually created by Gerudo magic or weird biological stimuli that were kept secret in the Gerudo royal family (or by their court witches Kotake & Koyume) and either was lost or simply stopped being used and was forgotten after OoT, or (3) this fact is being deliberately hidden, probably by either a Ganondorf-serving monarchist cult or the Gerudo royals who do not want competitors for the throne.
If (1) she’s definitely NOT a voe, if (2) s/he could be if the secret rites were rediscovered or never lost but merely kept secret, but probably not, if (3) s/he is almost certainly a secret voe, whether hidden from birth by the rulers or the “ganonists”.
@@IONATVS that’s pretty informative. I hadn’t thought about it like that. Thank you for a great explanation theory!
Greta selling armor to the Yiga Clan is quite crazy, but I think it would be really cool if she did! I always wondered why there is a shop selling clothing for voe in a town exclusive to women... Anyway, have a nice vacation! :)
I find that theory cool, but, as always, how cool a Zelda theory is is inversely proportional to the amount of evidence it has.
I just like to think they're all drag kings or trans masc 😳😳
I mean, they are the best clothemakers in Hyrule and they're close, supply and demand
You never know, maybe we'll be able to get a yiga outfit from Greta in the sequel. Would be pretty crazy if this was basically confirmed, but other Gerudo buying the clothes for their mates also makes plenty of sense.
@@allenperry739 Wow, that's a really good idea! Imagine if we could go into the hideout while pretending to be one of them. That would be amazing for a (side) Quest!
I'm inclined to think it is other Gerudo women. If the Yiga were her customers, why don't any of them dress this way; why doesn't ANYONE else dress this way? If we at least saw Yiga masquerading as Gerudo, in the desert (or as Zora/Gorons), maybe I could see them getting into town, and getting gear, but they don't, and it wouldn't make them any stealthier, as it's STILL male armor, and not for women. If it was just for the element protection, I'd be more inclined to imagine them dressed as Hylian women, and purchasing/stealing the earrings from that Gerudo shop, instead, allowing them to maintain their traditional attire, or Hylian civ getup, and just wear some earrings, or a necklace, which this game shows are normal for people. I think the Gerudo in Tarrey Town also sells Desert Voe armor, after that quest is completed, so maybe it's okay outside of town.
In the end, maybe it's Ganon's fault. Since there are no other male Gerudo, and certain agencies; possibly even the Gerudo themselves have taken steps to keep him from returning, maybe it's illegal because someone who might want such attire is Gdorf, or someone working for him. Making male Gerudo gear might be seen as paying homage to him, and they've had it with Ganon.
As for the darkness, it's a secret shop, so no peek holes means no light. The luminous armor doesn't work as well in the daytime, and sunlight might even be bad for it, lore wise. If she needs to always be in her shop; never know when a customer might actually sneak by, or sneak out at night to get resources for, and test the luminous armor, maybe she just can't be as active in the day. If people want to see it work before paying,, that means buying said armor at night.
Maybe the aura of the luminous stone has soaked into her. It's been theorized that it glows with the souls of the departed, so maybe she isn't as fond of the light, but I assume she's st least no more a monster than Kilton.
Wow long comment
Right extremely long detailed comment
"but I assume she's st least no more a monster than Kilton."
I smell a ship...
@@MSOGameShow WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
Why would she display the yoga armour, she would get snitched on, gerudo and yiga don’t get along so she would hide it from everyone
The guy in Kara Kara Bazaar who you buy the women's clothing from could be a middleman for Greta's business
I imagine the Yiga would want women's clothing for spying on the Gerudo
True fact!
I was checking the comments to see if anyone else thought this
Also there are female yiga it's just that all the higher ups are male (sword master and koga) but the foot soldiers are male and female
“Men they would marry.”
*Wario approaches*
Wario in Voe Armor is strange to think about.
Oh please no
That would be nightmare fuel
Wario is Voe Armor would be hotter than the desert itself.
O h
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I'm so I think her dark secret is the making of the radiant armor because you know it is connected to DEATH and Souls and could have some tabu rituals to make it. Also it could tie her to being magic allowing her to use dark magic to extend her life witch could explain your theory
Thx for the heart :)
Zora city is of the dead tho
Yeah, and its the only armor set in the game that requires money and a material. There's the earrings too technically but they're accessories, not a complete armor set
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
What if it’s just a business that had been going on and run by someone else before her and her eyes are just adopted to the dark bc everything has to be covered up to keep it secret
Why did you jump to vampire and not the twili? She likes the evening (or twilight) and the sun hurts her like how midna was hurt in twilight princess!!!!
Good point ☺️
That has more to do with Midna being in the Light world, not necessarily the sun. She still has to hide at night in the light world
Except Midna still had to hide in Link’s shadow at night too.
But we don't know how long they live
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
tbh I just always assumed there was a significant population of Gerudo who liked dressing up as men in secret/in their own homes
and on my second playthrough, I assumed Greta's secret was that she's the once-every-hundred-years male Gerudo, and just didn't go out in public to not get spotted.
I thought exacty the same! It should be very morbid and exciting for a gerudo who has never seen a real man to wear as them in secret.
It’s confirmed that for whatever reason, Gerudo males haven’t been born in 100s of years. Urbosa’s diary.
I think that Greta had been the mother of a gerudo voe & she had him fostered out or her husband raised him outside the Gerudo Town, his true identity being kept secret from everyone. The armour was made with her son in mind, as for who this son may be.... well, who do you think gave Link his Gerudo Vai Disguise?
@@labelledamedumanor4876 YOOOOOOOOO
It is confirmed that Ganondorf is the male Gerudo born in hundreds of years. Just google Ganondorf. His back story is very interesting.
“A completely normal looking door in the middle of a completely normal looking wall.” - MNB 2021
Bogus theory, as the door was off center to the right. Not in the middle!
So... did I solve the mystery?
@@mikebarnes7441 no, we just need to find an actual completely normal door on a completely normal wall.
Also if you notice the gerudo voe set has a ponytail.....exactly like the yoga clans ponytails!
“I am leaving”
**panik**
“…on vacation”
**kalm**
I don’t think she’s a vampire. That seems to be a tiny bit of a stretch. Especially in the Zelda series.
most concepts in botw are a bit of a stretch to me lmao
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
Meanwhile: Redeads ,Koko's mother, the entirety of Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask
Wasn't that guy in skyward sword a vampire haven't played the game in forever but vaguely remember something similar
May I just say something: You forgot to add one detail to your conclusion of her being a vamp. She sells Luminous Clothing. Luminous stones are rumored to light up st night because they were infused with the souls of the dead. It's possible that if she really was a vampire, she didnt drink blood, but harvested some customers souls from their bodies to make the luminous clothes. Or she could have harvested them from the stones themselves. Probably why she needs them to make the clothes.
Also: I seen some comments about the yiga not buying voe clothing:
The yiga footsoldiers have very identical hair style that Link has when he wears the hat from the outfit. Maybe they only use it on certain occasions or just for their hair designs and heat resistant properties from the head gear.
Does that mean the Zora's city glows with the souls of the dead? Luminous stone deposits are the same color as The spirits Link encounters I think
@@MaximillianRobesphere that is an awesome theory.
@@MaximillianRobesphere Actually, that's confirmed in the game. Its description is "This mysterious mineral gives off a pale blue glow in the dark, which some believe to be the souls of the dead." If you look closely at Rhoams and the Champions spirits, there are flames around them. The same colour which also confirms it. Also, if Ledo talks to Link, he will ask for 10 Luminous Stones in exchange for a diamond (or 2 for the first time). He then says that Zora's Domain is made from Luminous Stones. So its confirmed that the Domain was created using crystalized form of souls. Thats pretty dark.
@@YT-Stylis Nobody besides yunobo(? the young goron w/the scarf) has seen a spirit I would think in BOTW.
@@MaximillianRobesphere Yunobo uses Daruk's Protection. It was passed down via the family bloodline. It wouldn't necessarily mean he is a spirit or has any other connection to the spirit world other than his ancestors power.
I love the descendent of the blind thief idea!
Idk if this has been suggested yet: but what if she’s a moblin? There was that one time in Minish Cap we had to light a place up to reveal an intruder was a monster in hiding. Also, poke fun at the numerous moblin’s throughout the series that hide peacefully.
Plus, it would go nicely with your immortal idea given monsters don’t die-die. They just get resurrected every blood moon. If Greta got killed- she’d just have to wait a generation and walk back in!
I'm wondering if Greta underwent a similar process to the Sheikah monks? Maybe she learned it from the Yiga Clan? Here's a thought: maybe she has intentions of birthing the next voe? Not necessarily for any nefarious purposes. She may be of the opinion that outlawing voe in their society has removed something important from their cultural fabric? Or, she may be secretly in league with the Yiga, and specifically intends to mother the next Ganondorf? Or not; it could be that she and the Yiga know where Ganondorf's semi-corpse is at and wants to ensure he has plenty to wear when he's revived. That brings up another question: How did she know what the desert voe armor should look like? Going to go examine what Ganondorf is wearing in the BoTW2 trailer very carefully now lol.
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Tbh, we’ve never actually seen Ganondorf wear that kind of armour. Given the size of it, I’m wondering if it’s traditional armour for young Gerudo Voe? I’m fairly sure we see the children of Gerudo in BoTW wearing something fairly simular. I wouldn’t be too surprised if the designs for it were kept stored alongside the traditional Vai clothing
Awwww no Bandit for a couple weeks? Unfortunate. I hope you have a great vacation Bandit! You deserve it. We’ll be waiting for your triumphant return!
Thank you so much!
Theory: all the men from Gerudo Town are yiga
While it would be interesting, we *do* see a Yiga member unmasked, and...he's 100% a Sheikah.
(Plus, canonically, there aren't that many male Gerudo anyway so it would be weird for there to suddenly be enough to be a non-insignificant proportion of the Yiga.)
@A B two things: one they got kicked out because vias thought they were yiga. Two they did not like the rule so they became rebels like in the revolutionary war.
@A B THE BANANA GIVE IMMORTALITY
@A B what
@A B not anymore. None have been boy in thousands of years.
Bandit: hopefully nothing is revealed during my vacation, like the switch pro
Literally all the rumours: it’ll be revealed in the next week
That last part about her being something more than human is quite interesting. An affinity for darkness, hates sunlight, and apparently has a few skeletons in the closet doesn't paint a pretty picture.
I know this sounds crazy, but what if she is a disciple of Ganondorf? An affinity for darkness is typically associated with monsters. In BotW, stal enemies and Kilton are the only things that come out in the Night. Another thing is that she sells Voi armor, perhaps she is waiting for the day that Ganondorf returns, or at least pays respects to him. And one last thing, the memory of Ganondorf isn't entirely gone. Urboosa says that there are tales that Calamity Ganon took the form of a Gerudo at one point, obviously he was originally a Gerudo, but after so long they likely believe that Calamity Ganon was always his true form. Also in AoC, Astor of course has the Gerudo symbol on his attire, and is a disciple of Ganon. It could be that Greta is also a disciple of Ganon, who uses dark magic to prolong her life and youth at the cost of being restricted to the Darkness...or there's really nothing and I'm digging deeper than this already is.
If she's aiding the Yiga, that pretty much clinches it.
Actually in the legend of Zelda minish cap in a side quest a hylian request your help to see in His house because someone Is in there but when you enter the house lights are off and there is a person in the middle of the house and you can talk whit that seems like a very normal person but when you turns the light it turn in a bokoblin
Yo! Thank you for covering this. I never found out what the secret was
Her Shop lol
There's another character who can't go out in the light though. What if she occasionally trades with Kilton and occasionally uses monster ingredients and is starting to change like he did. Maybe Kilton can also help her distribute some of her goods to the Yiga and other races who want to embrace their wives' culture.
There's a much simpler solution for her to make the Yiga their suits. Someone else made them a hundred years ago, and the Yiga have commissioned her to make them in the present and wants them to look the same.
There is also an even BIGGER hole for this because it’s shown in totk that they use non-gerudo tailors, but its mostly closed up because Greta could also be working so who knows.
Yiga clan members do have the same ponytail like on the gerudo clothes
Geroudo woman:i'll keep your secret
The rest of the town:Winking intensify
“Made sure her club is a secret to everybody”
I see what you did there
interesting theory! one thing I want to add is that in Terry town the lady who opens up a shop there sells the same male gerudo armor as Greta. I always assumed Gretas costumers were gerudo women who wanted to present more masculine sometimes but im sure she has different costumers like you said. The no sun thing Is rly strange.
While hindsight is 20/20, I find it funny that TotK confirms that the Gerudo HATE the Yiga, thus making it very unlikely for them to be a potential customer of that shop (well, except that that would explain more of why the sales are illegal). I'd say a more likely secondary customer is the only "man" who ever was confirmed to sneak into Gerudo city, the one "Voe" who gets you the "Vai" outfit for entering the town in the first place.
2:30 whats the big deal? what? you think Greta is a Geruto male disguise- *HOLY SHEIK* WHAT IF GRETA IS GERUTO MALE IN DISGUISE!?
There have been vampire-like enemies, Vire. And Ganondorf is also a long lived Gerudo so there's a bit more evidence for either of those.
But just a thought... in Zelda 2, some of Ganon's minions could take human forms and would transform back into monsters when talked to. Not unlike how the Yiga do in BotW. And that said, some Yiga do appear to you as a woman travelers. So they would not even have that hard of a time getting in. And Greta could be a monster in disguise. The sunlight thing also reminds me of Blind the Theif from LttP. Blind took the form of a maiden until exposed to sunlight. So maybe she does have a reason to avoid light that doesn't necessarily mean she has to be a vampire.
I've looked at the video, and at some of the comments here, and I might have an explanation for this.
Greta makes Yiga clothing, sure, but she doesn't need to be an immortal creature to do that. Her mother, grandmother etc. might've run the store before her, and now it's up to Greta to do the same. The reason she can't go out is because the people outside may know her face, so she has to hide. Maybe she can go out at night though, seeing as most Gerudo are asleep by then.
That also makes an opportunity for something else: During the night, Greta sells Yiga clothing to them. She meets up with someone (maybe a Yiga, I've seen someone say that might be the guy who sells Link the female clothes in the Kara Kara bazaar) and sells them the Yiga armor.
However, if that's the case, why would she need a shop in the Gerudo Fort? My explanation would be similar to what MNB said, which is that they gift the clothes to their husbands. They would still need to buy the desert-suited clothing somewhere if they wanted them to visit sometime (doesn't need to be in the fort, the Kara Kara bazaar is a pretty easy meet-up point).
Something that I can't really understand still, is the Luminous armor. The stones Greta uses to make them (Luminous Stones) are said to contain the souls of the dead. Of course, the stones support the "Greta only goes out at night" theory, because it's just way easier to spot the luminous ores in the dark. But why does Greta have them? Why does she sell those clothes? Possibly, she has a set for herself, to have a little bit of light during her nightly travels. But that doesn't explain why she sells them, or even has them in the first place.
The shop could also be a masquerade; she needs a place to live for herself, without coming across as suspicious. That's why she sells the Voe armor, and the luminous armor. Of course, she makes more money because of it, but it's also a good solution. She needs a place to live, the Gerudo women want her clothing for men, setting up a shop is a win-win.
*TL;DR:* Greta's not immortal, but does make Yiga armor. She goes out at night to sell them to the clan, and collects materials for her armors in the meantime. She lives in the Gerudo Fort, so she can sell more, and has a place to live.
7:50 greta is actually a hardcore gamer, and the sun hearts her eyes.
This is actually a SUPER fascinating theory I've never considered. I always thought it was illegal in like, a blasphemous sense. We learned that any Gerudo MAN becomes the leader, so male gerudo clothes kinda seemed inappropriate in their culture. But i mean, these are some solid takes here.
I think it's for customers just like Link, voe who snuck into the town. They are probably common enough to warrent a black market just for them.
I kind of went down this rabbit hole. I focused in on her name, which means pearl. I know the pearl is associated with the moon and that's about as far as I wound up getting into it. Might be fun to dig a bit more and see if something interesting pops up in the pearl mythos.
... or it might not bring anything and I'm overthinking it
Nice video! I always like the green screen effects but the way you did the lighting with this was even more awesome than beforez
I love how he used Stampy as his yiga clan footage, instead of an actual z tuber
Interestingly enough, I watched Stampy’s playthrough of BotW since I was already familiar with him (I don’t watch him a lot, but I’ve watched a non-Minecraft playthrough of a game called Broken Age and before that during the Minecraft boom I have heard of him but don’t really watch him) instead of another let’s-player I don’t know anything about. It was a pretty good playthrough and my first exposure into the wider Zelda universe (I have heard of Zelda, Breath of the Wild most of all, but haven’t really researched into it until an offhand comment I heard from someone before finally deciding to search for playthroughs out of curiosity). Not gonna lie, I have Stampy to thank for being a part of the Zelda fandom, because if I didn’t watch his playthrough, I wouldn’t be playing Zelda today. Thought I’d share a funny story.
I'm totally on board with vampires in Zelda!!
Funny, I was re-playing Botw for who knows how many times at this point.
And when she said "we both have something to hide" I was curious what she meant.
Awesome video!!
5:51 actually there are females because around Hyrule are a few female Yiga
And I am aware of Kohga disguising himself as Urbosa in AOC however there is no point on disguising yourself as a certain gender of traveller that no one would particularly find suspicious. The Yiga could just be them without the uniform and instead be wearing traveler gear
Great video Bandit!
My ideas in no particular order:
1. She is a man disguised as a woman.
2. She has a widespread black market operation and the store in Gerudo Town is only one part of a bigger network.
3. She is into necromancy with the whole Radiant Set, Luminous Stones and “Souls of the dead” thing.
The Yiga being male Gerudo makes sense given that Ganondorf was a male Gerudo.
She could have inherited the business from an ancestor or a relative maybe?
It would explain how the yiga could get their armour 100 years ago
An explanation for her not liking the sun could be because she’s stayed in the dark shop for a while cause it needs to be kept secret so her eyes aren’t used to the sun or bright lights in general seeing as the lights in her shop are dim
Just a theory -w-
(Tho I’m totally down for her being a vampire)
4:45
Bandit: ...tiny, non-gerudo men at that.
Me: there are gerudo men, plural?!?
i love MNB for being brave enough to speculate and daydream and come up with absolutely wild yet incredibly entertaining theories. every other zeldatuber insists on gathering tons of evidence and not taking shots in the dark based on their own imagination. but these theories are fun enough that they convince me
I hope you have a great vacation dude, I’ll miss you and see ya around!
I wish you nice vacation Bandit!
Thank you!
My favorite armor has gotta be the armor of the wild
Have a great time on vacation, Bandit!
I always thought the gerudo woman bought men's clothes because some of them identified as male but are not allowed to be themselves because it was against the law. After Ganondorf ruined the Gerudo reputation no males were allowed not even the Gerudos born male or the ones who identified as male. So the Gerudos weren't just woman because of biology but now as their national identity.
That's what the impression I got from that shop too.
Since about every 100 years a Gerudo male was born, I kinda expected one or two of the Gerudo we found would be biologically male but just dress and publicly identify as female just to not get thrown out and abandoned.
Eventually, I just ended up assuming Greta was biologically male and ran the secret club to not get discovered, since anyone who went in there to call out Greta would have to admit they were there buying male clothing.
@@NikkiTheViolist the guy that sells you the female Gerudo clothes may have been a male Gerudo. Yeah he's not as tall or muscular but we don't know if that is just biological difference between the male and female Gerudos and he's still in great shape. He may dress in woman's clothes simply to blend in or he identifies with the Gerudos so much that he identifies as female. With Greta I thought she was biologically a woman but identifies as a man and was inspired by this to make male Gerudo clothes but you might be right instead.
@@NikkiTheViolist most of the characters that refer to him as Hylian Vai are Gerudo women while Benja only say a man. If there is as much stigma of Gerudo men as I think there is and the Gerudos of the outpost know he is a Vai then the last thing he wants is for them to know he is a Gerudo. So he makes up the lie that he is Hylian Vai so the Gerudos don't kick his ass. He is also one of the few people that can sell you Gerudo clothes. The only other way to obtain the clothes is the Gerudo city and Terry town which has a Gerudo citizen. This implies that only Gerudos know how to make these clothes knowledge he could have gain from his Gerudo mother. The word Hylian Vai is highlighted in multiple conversations. Why go to so much trouble to convince us he is Hylian? Unless the game wants you to question the phrase.
YES YES AND YES.
That half a second pause after he said he was leaving scared me. Loved this theory and have fun
Huh, I always thought that the secret of the club was that there were actually male-bodied (voe) Gerudo in Gerudo Town disguised as females just like Link. That the demand was for better fitting clothing to wear at home or in private. We got the female version of the armor from one such voe who preferred dressing as a woman after all, and his skin tone and appearance were very similar to a typical Gerudo vai. It's been awhile since Ocarina of Time, but male Gerudo were seen as bad omens then (or potential leaders of great power, Oh Hi holder of the Triforce of Power!). However, male-bodied Gerudo were a possibility. I don't think it's ever really mentioned what happens to voe who are born to or as Gerudos in Breath of the Wild... but, I could imagine crossdressing becoming a sort of norm, as in "No, I'm not a Gerudo male. I'm not Gannondorf's reincarnation." A way of rejecting that once connection Gannondorf had to the Gerudo by the other Gerudo, yet allowing a male-bodied Gerudo to live their lives peacefully. Just as vai rather than voe. A potential huge cultural mess of misgendering, but necessary to try and prevent Gannon reincarnating? Instead of Gerudo men being born rarely, it became there is no such thing as a male Gerudo?
I always figured it was so taboo to sell men's armor in Gerudo Town because of Ganondorf, as well as why men in general aren't allowed to enter the town. Since he was the only male Gerudo and tried to destroy Hyrule (and succeeded this time), they want to eliminate anything relating to male Gerudo.
"what if she's a vampire" bruh
ITS GOT TO BE CONFIRMED in totk when you wear the yiga armor in the club she says she supposes every one has secrets and she says she wont tell anyone! WHY WOULD A GERUDO NOT TELL OTHER GERUDO THERES A YIGA RUNNING AROUND! Yeah maybe they want sales but why would she let that around they’re a threat to society unless shes a yiga herself or she’s working for them 😱😱
It's true that they all look male but some of the female travelers you talk to turn out to be yiga in disguise. It's not unheard of for female ninjas to strap their boobs down though
Also Zelda in Oot disguised herself as a male Sheika. And the Yiga were part of the Sheika, so they likely learned the same thing that Zelda did
I tend to agree with this. Greta always seemed kinda sus when I was playing, and it's possible she has other stock that she only shows to her regular loyal customers, the Yiga. Somehow I can't see Master Kohga at a sowing machine stitching up a suit to fit that belly of his :)
Enjoy your travels across the great sea, and into the skies!
Link: *Starts to carry lots of water from sacred springs and stocks up on cross shaped boomerangs.*
Lol castlevania reference nice lol
The whole vampire thing is a bit of a stretch, but everything else makes sense.
i agree
My biggest problem with the yiga possibility is that the tapestry from 10 000 years ago depicts the yiga in the exact same outfit. However for all we know the business of the secret club could've been passed down across generations
i like that you have fun editing your videos! are you keeping the real life skits in your botw2 theorys when we get new informations?
If I’m not trying to rush videos out, then yes I will! It all depends tbh
I had a theory with Kilton that connects to yours...
Kilton is part monster, therefore he can make armor to blend in with monsters and society. If you upgrade the radiant armor, you can walk almong the stal monsters. If Greta is part monster she can make monster clothing like Kilton, and to add on, Kilton only comes in nighttime... When it's dark and the sun is not shining. Blood moons also happen at night to recreate monsters because it's dark... And monsters must like darkness.
Bonus: Monsters of different kinds get along, so yigas and vampires could too because it's common. And vampires may be a new monster, but Kilton is too. There both special, and I think they connect. Greta and Kilton are very mysterious.
And that's why what she's doing is secret and illegal...
MNB YOU JUST ABOUT GAVE ME A HEART ATTACK. DUDE! /Sigh/ So glad you’re only gone for vacation. Have fun!! Also, hilarious intro, keep it up!
MNB: gets bored
MNB: Vampires! :D
me: yea sure why not
My favorite set of armor ummmmm I'm not gonna say 😅🤔
I assumed the simplest explanation. Her clients are Gerudo women… who want to wear Voe clothing, secretly. You need to cross dress to enter town, it stands to reason maybe townspeople wish to cross dress themselves. For many reasons. After all, it’s Gerudo who know the password, and don’t like that you’re eavesdropping on their secret discussion. As for the “size” of the clothing, I chalk that up to video game logic, all armor fits everyone.
0:18 did they just.... ASSUM YOUR GENDER!!?
“The bright light of the sun doesn’t agree with me. I haven’t paid my respects to it in many years...”
Perhaps the sun refers to the cleansing light of Hylia. At least figuratively. Maybe Greta is either ashamed to be seen in broad daylight or is afraid that Hylia will smite her because of her mis-deeds.
But this is just a game theory
Thx!
P.s. the editing is looking good, i like the immersive intro, it was fun. Keep being creative!!
ooo thats rly interesting
I was here 38 seconds after this video came out
Ngl I got scared when you said you were leaving
Anyway great video as usual!
I just randomly thought: Would they allow non-binary people in Guerudo Town? I don’t think so, since I’m pretty sure they said they only allow women not that they don’t allow men but I don’t know.
I was wondering the same thing, would non binary people get kicked out or would they be able to stay, same thing with trans men. If I was a gerudo and came out as nonbinary would I still be able to live in gerudo town or would I have to live somewhere else?
Trans probably yes Vai is Vai they let link in. Non binary probably ok if presenting as a Vai and not a Vo at the time? Don't claim to be a Ve
I can tell MNB is having a lot of fun with their green screen
I thought that the male armor could be bought by women who wanted to dress as men just because they wanted to. Kind of trans-gender Gerudo.
Same. Or you know, for the kick of it
I guess that'd be seen as a sacrilege which is why it's illegal.
@@fluffynator6222 it may be
That armor is way too small for the Gerudo to wear themselves.
That's what I was thinking too, all these theories could be her customers lol
Awesome theory bandit! When they get weird like this it means they’re the best ones lol. Anyway, have a fun, relaxing vacation!
It's all a front for drugs
Should make a series of videos where you just read us stories or something to get to sleep with your soothing voice.
my theory is she's selling voe armor to trans gerudo men (ftm) bc why not 🏳️⚧️❤🕺
Enjoy your vacation, my brother Mask! I'm going to be taking some time off from everything, myself, with tuberculosis and ending a relationship going on over on my end. You've certainly earned some good time off, sir!
Greta is the First Trans man in gerudo history, thus being the lawful heir of the Throne.
yesss
Right?!
Meaning what exactly
@@damagedcharizardcollector1195 Greta is actually a man. He just keeps portraying himself as a Woman because otherwise he would be Banned. Thats his little safe space where he can Dress however he likes and makes masculine clothes for other folks
I assumed that she was selling direct to disguised Hylian men. She sees right through your disguise when no one else does. Given their similarities she might have made the Hylian Vai garments that you walk in with. She might strait up be supporting human trafficking into Gerudo town.
Noti gang wya?
I feel like she is totally selling to the Yiga but maybe it was passed down to her. I feel like “the sun doesn’t agree with me” is more of a euphemism about not bringing her likely despised business to the light of town if it was ever found out. Also, maybe the yiga buy in the dead of night to avoid having to pass as hylian? But vampire Gerudo is pretty metal so I’m going with that too lmao
My heart dropped when you said "goodbye" cuz I thought you were leaving for good
Going the vampire route, she could be some kind of undead (aside from vampire) that uses makeup and perfumes to hide traces of it. If she is actually some kind of vampire that would be rather interesting, since we've seen all manner of undead in the Zelda series.
You forgot about rohondson in Terry town!!! She makes voe cloths in Terry town.
I think the obvious answer would be that Greta is a voe... that's it, no other secret to hide.
Maybe (s)he got to stay inside a house not to scare the other Gerudos, because of the Ganondorf thing in their history?
The “it’s a secret to everybody” reference gave me chills
Have a nice vacation bro you deserve it
Greta is honestly one of my favorite NPCs and that's mainly cuz of a roleplay I did years ago and hearing the possibility that she could be something similar to a vampire is amazing and I LOVE this theory
I hope you enjoy your vacation and stay safe!
tysm :)
***TOTK SPOILER ALERT!!!***
Now, that is pretty curious and plausible theory. Especially, with something that happens in TotK. We need someone who went through the whole game to confirm that, but....
With the whole Gerudo City living in an underground bunker and City being abandoned (not sure if Greta's still in GSC or in the bunker) Yiga are now shown kidnapping fashion students &designers to create their Yiga armors. And, I know that overall it's just a plot to allow Link to infiltrate Yiga hideout, but...
...What if Yiga are in dire need of new seamstresses, because Greta is in the bunker and can't just go to her shop?
Bruh that stampy clip just hit me with a huge wave of nostalgia