@@jslaughter95Star Trek, Dredd, LOTR, and The Boys, Karl Urban is a BAMF actor. I hope he plays a rumored Wolverine variant in Deadpool & Wolverine as he’d be perfect had he not been in Thor Ragnarok
Kaz Hirai Think about it this film did a fantastic job, people who typically weren't fans of Trek got brought into this film and read more into the rich real Trek. It's a beautiful thing, they feed off of each other.
I remember sitting in the theater watching the movie and when Vulcan got destroyed, my dad (who is a Trekkie) actually said "They did *not* just do that!" And I remember thinking "Oh yeah, they did."
I would buy that if Chekov didn't say "Away team is entering the atmosphere" well after the freefall began. Then again, he did say "20,000 meters", which implies that Vulcan is a much smaller planet than earth. It matters not. The movie still kicks ass, and Humans are impervious to the defense of the Vulcan Atmosphere. Which is why Sci-fi is awesome.
I popped in here to address the new music too - and how the new and old work together (even more in 'Darkness) But as I watch again, yesterday too - Just so much fun the opening Rock 'n' Roll ride, but still every time new theme song starts ---GOOSE BUMPs!
No mention of Karl Urban as McCoy? I get that McCoy had a smaller role, but Urban nailed the character (arguably better than either Pine or Quinto). The accent, the demeanor, the... grumpiness. He IS Bones. Though, I did love the rest of the review. Spot on for everything else. I had a nearly nearly identical reaction when Vulcan was destroyed. "Wait, what? No. No. Ok, they're dreaming and they'll wake up. Or they can make an anti-black hole and fix everything. Right? Riiiiiiight?" I was not expecting that. At all.
I was half expecting a "Yesterday's Enterprise" situation where if the thing that had caused the time-line to split off were somehow "fixed" that the timeline itself would automatically repair itself. But yeah, that didn't happen. Though I was happy with it overall. And afterwards I definitely appreciated the fact that they found a way to do a reboot, and have some creative leeway with it while not saying that none of the other stuff had happened. Especially since they did it in a way that's already been established to be possible in Trek.
Two things I wish you had mentioned were one, how flat-out AMAZING the score is and two, how perfect Karl is as Bones. He looks almost identical to the guy!
Technically, this is like the "Days of Future Past" film for the Star Trek franchise. Think about it, the original movies did happen, and then what happens is that some character has to go back in time and alter stuff and it ends up creating a new timeline.
.........They don't splat during Warp Drive, because it isn't the ship that's moving, it's the space around them. Yes, they talk about "inertial dampeners", but otherwise, Warp Drive "works" because they're literally warping the space-time around them, and the ship itself is "motionless". Yes, I know too much for my own good.
I love this movie. Went to see it 3 times in theater. I never watched the shows before and then I did after this movie. Holy shit. When I watched Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager, I understood why Star Trek was such a phenomenon. I still love the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies (especially this one), but damn those series are beyond good.
@ 8:55 It's the velocity at which you enter the atmosphere that determines the heat factor. Just by entering the atmosphere doesn't immediately burn anything.
This is one of those movies that is not "best", but is still so great, I can't express it. Seriously, it's so great that it turned me into a Trekkie. Now I am half-Trekkie and half-Star Wars Fanboy.
I haven't seen this movie in a couple of years but I'm pretty sure the super nova wiped out the star system and not the galaxy. Way different. I was always a Star Wars fan but this trilogy (so far) has gotten me WAY into Star Trek. Star Trek Beyond was my favorite of the three (seriously SO GREAT). The new star wars movies? (Looking at you The Last Jedi) Not so much. I'm really looking forward to a possible fourth Star Trek though!! Make it happen, folks!!!!
To me, Nero was just simply there as a device in which to develop the crew's building relationship with each other, particularily Kirk and Spock's. He had a motive and being Romulan he was closer to Vulcan's ancestry. The focus of this film was really about re-introducing the crew.
The depiction of him being conflicted and confused between emotion and logic is just sooooooo good. He is literally the most interesting character in the movie because of that, and again, I am so shocked that him being conflicted between emotion and logic has never actually been developped in the previous movies. Really nice job JJ!
Not a huge Star Trek guy, but I liked the movie alright. That supernova destroying the galaxy thing rubbed me the wrong way though, as did the villain blaming the destruction of his home planet through that supernova on Spock and the federation. Or, you know, that space-faring, technologically advanced race could have just vacated their planet, it's not like we can't roughly calculate when a star is gonna blow up.
@@kingkusnacht Darkness whoa!:) ---and speaking of Dr. Whooooo ---- I look forward to future projects from player of 'Mickey the Idiot' from season 1 and 2, etc of nuWho
8:20 I know that this video is pretty old and someone may have already said this but I always took the mind meld scene as the supernova destroying the solar system Romulus was in, not the entire galaxy. It’s just that Spock prime was just a little too late on the arrival to save Nero’s home.
When you talk about the physics and how they were trying to stop vulcan from being non existant, they could have been pushed from space into the gravity.
And yes, you can skydive from space into atmo if you're properly shielded and not jsut following the trajectory of the vessel that dropped you. Gravity at space station level is nearly as strong as it is at sea level, it's jsut things that are up there are only falling as fast as the planet is falling away from them so they never get any closer.
+Aynge Mackay That's cool. I disagree but that's fine. But...why do you like the JJ Treks so much? I mean, they aren't really Star Trek movies--which is fine in your case as you don't like them--but what do they have that you do like? They are slickly produce, fast-paced and energetic sci-fi action movies, no doubt but...there are A LOT of slickly produce popcorn sci-fic action movies running around. Why these ones if you don't like the Star Trek setting?
Nerd moment: Warp drive would not splat people to the back of the ship, because technically the ship isn't moving. A warp bubble contracts the space in front of the object while expanding the space behind it. The ship isn't moving, the space is the thing that's moving. That's why trans-warp beaming is talked about in this movie. "It never occurred to me to think of space as the thing that was moving", which actually doesn't make sense from Mr. Scott since he should know how warp technology works.
Jeremy, I've been watching your reviews since the "Movieman days, and I gotta say, you have seriously come a long way. You've inspired an appreciation for good film making in me and I have become so much more of a film fan because of you. I've been watching other really cool reviewers like the Schmoes and Stuckmann along with you now for a few years, but you were the first to show me how awesome movies really are if you take a harder look into them than just casual entertainment. So thanks!
The Motion Picture: Not Seen The Wrath of Khan: Blu-Ray The Search For Spock: Awesometacular The Voyage Home: Good Time If Your Drunk The Final Frontier: Not Seen The Undiscovered Country: Awesometacular Generations: Good Time No Alcohol Required First Contact: Awesometacular Insurrection: Awesometacular Nemesis: T-Minus One Day Star Trek: Awesometacular Into Darkness: Awesometacular Beyond: Awesometacular
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but regarding the scene where they "dive" into the atmosphere; the shuttle has a magnetic launch system, which you hear immediately preceding their release. In addition, the air being sucked out of the shuttle would provide momentum as well. However the primary force behind their ejection is the mag-release. Not sure if that matters much to you, Jeremy, but there is at least some explanation behind what is happening in the scene. Great review!
+Christian Tyler Hannah That's fantastic but...do you actually LIKE the rest of the Trek setting? Most people draw a very firm line between the JJ-verse and the other 9 movies and 748 episodes of television. JJ-verse is...well, Star Wars. It's fun and exciting and slickly produced sci-fi action. But it is completely separate in tone to the rest of the Trek setting (generally much more cerebral, slower paced, less action-forward, more talky...and frankly smarter--or at least it tried to be smarter whether it succeeded or not). Nothing wrong with liking one, the other or both but they are VERY different.
Ryan S I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with anything. I was asking a question. The JJ movies are very different than the rest of the setting and I'm trying to figure out how your feeling on one would realistically influence your feelings on the other when there is such a tonal difference between the two.
Been a Star Trek fan since TNG, and I love this direction they have gone in as well as the new cast. Old Spock helped validate the new time line or reality whatever you wanna call it. I could care less about lens flares, but loved the intro one of the best intros in a movie ever.
:( You say your a Star Trek fan, yet think Spock beat Kirk because he was a better fighter................................ Really? Vulcans are about 3 times the strength of a human. It is like Kirk trying to fight Captain America in a fist fight. It doesn't happen. Still, loved the review!
***** That's "Trekkie" not nerd. And also, kirk left some pretty good marks on 4 guys at once in that bar fight before he was finally pinned and had the crap beaten out of him. Kirk grew up as a tough guy, and I would bet you $1000 that he got into a LOT more fights than Spock did growing up! Also, Spock as a kid had total surprise when he tackled the bully, thus throwing his opponent off balance. That kind of advantage is almost an instant win. Also, I am basing my argument off the Original show, where Spock was baffled by human fist fighting. A famous quote of his after Kirk decked a guard: "Doesn't that hurt captain?"
Spock would be a better fighter strategically and physically Vulcans are bred fighters trained mentally and physically at a very young age. Your point is valid but he is still going to be a better fighter strength aside.
I don't think I'll go back and watch all the old star trek movies/tv shows, but I did like this movie and will watch the next one. And on a side note, you should never stop making videos. These are fun to look forward to every week. Games, movies, it doesn't matter. Just keep them coming. You need more subscribers...
Just FYI, Jeremy. The information gained from the Red Bull Stratos dive is going into research on alternative reentry methods from space (including diving) when the usual reentry methods are impossible. This is going on right now. So yes, the dive into Vulcan is possible.
A have a personal dislike for Generations. Insurrection for me is really really underated. Final Frontier was decent. Nemesis was okayish. Just a really unfortunate way for the TNG crew to bow out.
Just watched 'Star Trek' from 2009 for the first time. Not only was it the first time I watched the film, but it was also the first ever 'Star Trek' thing I have watched. Based on the strength of this movie, I am now a fan of 'Star Trek' and I can't wait to watch 'Star Trek Into Darkness' tonight. Great acting, cool characters and fantastic special effects. I don't know how close to the mythology of 'Trek' it really is, but as a newcomer to the franchise, I loved it.
I watched it again a few days back. I've never seen the original series, and I can understand fans that nitpick that this Kirk is different than William Shatner's version. BUT, context. I've seen clips of Shatner here and there and he appears like he's in his mid-30s in the original show; Kirk in this movie is in his mid-20's at least, and it's not out of the question that he was a bit of a playboy 'back in the day'. Along with that, history was changed; Nero goes back in time and Kirk's dad gets killed off, and Kirk grew up without a dad to look up to, and in a dysfunctional home. By Star Trek: Beyond, Kirk's matured in my eyes, he's a respectable and responsible Captain; the kind of progression that would lead to him becoming Shatner's version of Kirk.
7:15 Vulcan being destroyed was great. What makes a good movie, for me, is not everything going perfect and everything being fixed, but for everything to happen in a way that allows misses and hurdles to happen.
In the skydiving scene i think maybe pike brings the shuttle to a complete stop before releasing them, taking away any orbital velocity. This would make them fall towards vulcan but at a rate that wouldn't cause a lot of heat build up. Think of the guy who jumped from the red bull balloon.
Where did you get this info? Have you read the 'Star Trek: Countdown' comic? It was written by Orci, Kurtzman-- the same writing team behind the 2009 film and released before the film. It outlines that the Hobus star system goes supernova and the resulting shock wave wipes out the Romulus system. It's annoying that this wasn't properly explained in the 2009 film due to time/editing/pacing, but it has been outlined in expanded universe
Other corrections: a human sky-diving from space wouldn't burn up because they won't go anywhere near fast enough. That effect is caused by the object moving to fast or being to un-aerodynamic for air to pass around it. In-atmosphere skydivers skydivers reach terminal velocity in a much thicker part of the atmosphere than that away team would have and they're not charred when they touch down. Also, warp travel is done by compressing space around the ship, so the occupants aren't going splat.
Correct me if im wrong by I dont think they would go "splat" because the concept of warp drive is bending space in front of and behind the spacecraft and transporting it without directly affecting the ship. Its essentially bending space to shorten the distance almost. The people inside the spacecraft wouldn't be affected, as u see in the movie
I waited seven years for this movie. SEVEN. YEARS. And yet, somehow, I was the fifth person in line at the theatre. Four hours early, and I was still the fifth in line. Be that as it may, I loved the hell out of it. Took my mother to see it on Mother's Day. And took my bro to see it on his birthday. It was the Month of Trek...and it was good.
Hey Jeremy. I am a huge Star Trek fan and would like to clear up some confusion you might have regarding the Hobus Supernova. According to the official prequel comic (Star Trek: Countdown) and Star Trek Online, which takes place decades after the destruction of romulus, it is discovered that a device containing several volatile materials from the Star Trek Universe was fired into the star by the Iconians as part of their plot to take over the universe.
DUDE! Love your reviews. Where is your Star Trek : Into Darkness review? Has it not been released there yet? I'm writing from Oz (as in Australia not a magical land with a wizard and three witches) and we've had it out for about a week (or so). So looking forward to hearing what you think. Also hoping you will do a spoiler review of the film too.
I AGREE! No matter how hard I tried I couldn't find a thing about the movie to complain about. The characters, humor, balance between action and drama is every bit as good as the first movie but everything is bigger, more bombastic and more thrilling. The villain was fantastic too, unlike the first one. I just kept thinking "awesome", "awesome" and "awesome". Just the intro scene floored me, it brought up a big smile on my face and that smile remained throughout the entire film.
Hey Jeremy. I am a huge Star Trek fan and would like to clear up some confusion you might have regarding the Hobus Supernova. According to the official prequel comic (Star Trek: Countdown) and Star Trek Online, which takes place decades after the destruction of romulus, it is discovered that a device containing several volatile materials from the Star Trek Universe was fired into the star to make it go freakin
about the skydive from space. The reason most things burn up when they hit the atmosphere is that they are moving extremely fast. For instance when skylab fell it was moving fast enough to almost stay in space (orbit) shich is about 24000 mph. If you entered the atmosphere moving much slower the burn won't happen till you get moving fast enough for friction to ignite you.
you mentioned the "supernova wiping out the galaxy" and if it were a normal Supernova, yeah, no it wouldn't have. But these are details delved into in "Countdown" and "Star Trek Online" in that this isn't a simple Supernova, but a Subspace shockwave fueled by protomatter (remember the Genesis device from Wrath of Khan?). And the space jump, the drill was stationary, not at orbital velocity. They aren't falling at 17k mph, so the burn-up is negated.
I recognize that Nero is a weak character, but I didn't mind him for 2 reasons. 1. Eric Bana nails it. 2. He creates a connection between Kirk and Spock: George Kirk sacrificed himself fighting Nero to save Jim and his mom and he killed Spock's mom and destroyed his planet. Fantastic review as usual Jeremy :)
It's crazy that Mr. Jahns hasn't changed in his style of analyzing movies and the scenes that make them up, and yet he's still TOTALLY relevant in his analysis. I fully accept this may be a dovetail of taste. Jeremy just seems to have the same taste in movies as myself, which is useful to me, as a review. Edit: I did like Eric Bana as Nero.
The Supernova was actually a very rare type of star that when going nova doesn't dissipate but consumes everything it engulfs as fuel and spreads and spreads and spreads until the entire galaxy is gone. It went down in the Countdown tie in comic and it also gave Nero so much needed characterization. Also it seems supernovas like that one do exist but not to galaxy killing degrees.The biggest was theorized to have been 300 light years big.
look into it. i don't know much about it myself, but i do know that space and time (spacetime) can be can be bend or "warped." but this would require a ton of energy which i believe they make by clashing together matter and anti-matter. which causes in theory the amount of energy needed to warp space. this warp shortens the distance between the ship and it's target by a great deal allowing them to travel faster than the speed of light without breaking the laws of physics.
I'm a child of the 60 so that said you know I'm a huge fan of the original then came this reboot and I could not have asked for a better. JJ has taken our beloved Trek and given it the loving polish of a master violin maker! Star Trek is in good hands. I'm glad.
Them skydiving onto Vulcan, its the depressurisation and the gravity that propels them toward it, and they don't burn up because they're not moving fast enough to generate enough friction with the atmosphere to produce that effect. Warp Drive isn't fatal to the crew because of the ship's inertial dampeners.
Hi Jeremy Fantastic review of Star Trek, I got to hand it to you, you really know how to sum up Movies very well. I absolutely loved this movie, and the humor was also great. The scene where Kirk gets injected by Bones and faints is so hilarious. Overall I think it was an awesome movie, and I'm glad they brought back the phaser guns as well. I wonder how the cast used for the J.J. Abrams' Star Trek will do if they make a new series out of it? That would be really interesting. Regards Gerann
Maybe I should get into Star Trek, because from what I've seen from this comment section, the Star Trek fanbase is NOWHERE NEAR as toxic as the Star Wars fanbase
favorite sci-fi films of the past decade. Into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim are my top three movies I'm anticipated for. Oh, and if you want to know what I know think of Transformers 2. I can't pass the first hour of that movie now. Every frame, there is a problem or two.
Jeremy I think every single aspect of this review was spot on. I've probably watched hundreds of them at this point, and this was in my humble opinion one of your best.
In the movie Scotty said the space is what moves.If a ship can move space that is around it backwards and a ship can drive in it that could give of a super speed look.
I don't know if anyone noticed but the myth that people dressed in red die from the series is still alive in this movie: the guy that jumps with Kirk and Sulu on the platform, his suit is read and he dies.
A friend of mine thinks that Cumberbatch might actually be Jean-Luc Picard from the future, primarily because we see a giant-ass Enterprise-looking ship attack Kirk's Enterprise in the latest Into Darkness trailer. The timeline was forever changed with Nero, so who knows, maybe Picard is evil in this new timeline. Probably not the case, but fun to speculate!
'Star Trek Into Darkness' is........Awesometacular! Was epic Jeremy! Saw it today in 3D and favourite film this year and cant wait to see it again! Cant wait for your review! :)
If there is one statement that i have ever been more sure of then this, i don't know what it is but: The intro to Star Trek is one of the most perfect things ever.
Thanks for finally reviewing this movie! Another review nailed-totally agree with you on almost all the points,especially on the even and odd numbered Star Trek Movies^^ BUT for me the campfire scenes of Kirk, Bones and Spock in the beginning and end of Star Trek V make for one of the greatest moments of the old Star Trek cast. So despite all the BSin between these two scenes made the movie for me.Greets from Germany, keep up the good work - and pls review the Indiana Jones Trilogy one day ;)
Thanks Jeremy for explaining everything lol I just got this movie yesterday and watched it until 5am, went to sleep, and I'm watching it again. I'm addicted and can't wait to watch Into Darkness.
well scotty did mention something about warp thingy implies that space is the one that moves and not the ship thats why people inside enterprise doesnt go splat like you said. awesome review as always
absolutely LOOOVE this guy's review!! very cool, witty, he's definitely a trek fan with the stuff he throws in now & then, & love how as he does the review his monologue wanders all over the place, which is exactly how i think too! fantastic! definitely subscribing to this dude! very happy I watched it!
Karl Urban as Bones is one of the most relatable characters ever. At least in my opinion.
i love Karl Urban as an actor anyway, but his portrayal of Bones was just beautifully done
Fun fact: his portrayal brought Nimoy to tears
@@jslaughter95Star Trek, Dredd, LOTR, and The Boys, Karl Urban is a BAMF actor. I hope he plays a rumored Wolverine variant in Deadpool & Wolverine as he’d be perfect had he not been in Thor Ragnarok
This movie got me into Star Trek.
lol get into it or get into it again?
Same here.
Then you don't know what Star Trek is about.
Kaz Hirai Fuck off.
Kaz Hirai Think about it this film did a fantastic job, people who typically weren't fans of Trek got brought into this film and read more into the rich real Trek. It's a beautiful thing, they feed off of each other.
I remember sitting in the theater watching the movie and when Vulcan got destroyed, my dad (who is a Trekkie) actually said "They did *not* just do that!" And I remember thinking "Oh yeah, they did."
I would buy that if Chekov didn't say "Away team is entering the atmosphere" well after the freefall began. Then again, he did say "20,000 meters", which implies that Vulcan is a much smaller planet than earth. It matters not. The movie still kicks ass, and Humans are impervious to the defense of the Vulcan Atmosphere. Which is why Sci-fi is awesome.
The music in this movie was amazing
I popped in here to address the new music too - and how the new and old work together (even more in 'Darkness) But as I watch again, yesterday too - Just so much fun the opening Rock 'n' Roll ride, but still every time new theme song starts ---GOOSE BUMPs!
No mention of Karl Urban as McCoy? I get that McCoy had a smaller role, but Urban nailed the character (arguably better than either Pine or Quinto). The accent, the demeanor, the... grumpiness. He IS Bones.
Though, I did love the rest of the review. Spot on for everything else. I had a nearly nearly identical reaction when Vulcan was destroyed. "Wait, what? No. No. Ok, they're dreaming and they'll wake up. Or they can make an anti-black hole and fix everything. Right? Riiiiiiight?" I was not expecting that. At all.
And he looks a bit like him, too
I was half expecting a "Yesterday's Enterprise" situation where if the thing that had caused the time-line to split off were somehow "fixed" that the timeline itself would automatically repair itself. But yeah, that didn't happen.
Though I was happy with it overall. And afterwards I definitely appreciated the fact that they found a way to do a reboot, and have some creative leeway with it while not saying that none of the other stuff had happened. Especially since they did it in a way that's already been established to be possible in Trek.
Im a Star Trek and Star Wars fan
No, you're just a Geek.
Jonathan Soto And what exactly do you mean by 'JUST a geek'. I'm a geek and proud of it.
Ha me too
Jh
Implying that being a Geek is bad smh -__-
Two things I wish you had mentioned were
one, how flat-out AMAZING the score is
and two, how perfect Karl is as Bones. He looks almost identical to the guy!
That theme 😍😍😍
Rest in Peace, Leonard Nimoy.
and now Anton Yelchin... :'(
@@somerandolad not cool
@@somerandolad - your "just a joke" is NOT funny, neither can anyone read your mind !!
I barely even notice the lens flares when I watch the movies. Probably because I love the movie enough to not give a s*** about them.
I was hoping you were going to call it "Awesometrekular"
+waterblonk Nice one :D
"Your father was captain for 12 minutes; he saved 800 lives. I dare you to do better." that line gets me every time
Technically, this is like the "Days of Future Past" film for the Star Trek franchise. Think about it, the original movies did happen, and then what happens is that some character has to go back in time and alter stuff and it ends up creating a new timeline.
Technically Days Of Future Past is the Star Trek of the X-Men franchise
The way JJ Abrams makes this movie both a reboot and a sequel is ingenious. I adore the original Star Trek, but I also love this version too
.........They don't splat during Warp Drive, because it isn't the ship that's moving, it's the space around them. Yes, they talk about "inertial dampeners", but otherwise, Warp Drive "works" because they're literally warping the space-time around them, and the ship itself is "motionless".
Yes, I know too much for my own good.
Mick Quack no you don't
God I'm glad that you got man tears at the start of this movie! I re-watched it today and was totally tearing up too haha!
+Sam Hanning
I cried my eyes out.
The first five minutes made me cry. Look, it was a starship crashing into a Romulan mining vessel, there's no manlier way to cry.
What about Stargate. We can have Star Trek, Star Wars and Stargate.
I love this movie. Went to see it 3 times in theater. I never watched the shows before and then I did after this movie.
Holy shit. When I watched Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager, I understood why Star Trek was such a phenomenon. I still love the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies (especially this one), but damn those series are beyond good.
@ 8:55 It's the velocity at which you enter the atmosphere that determines the heat factor. Just by entering the atmosphere doesn't immediately burn anything.
This is one of those movies that is not "best", but is still so great, I can't express it. Seriously, it's so great that it turned me into a Trekkie.
Now I am half-Trekkie and half-Star Wars Fanboy.
Your favourite of 2009? But what about Transformers Revenge of the fallen?
That movie was terrible.
+Brink Brungus It was a joke. That movie was one of Jeremy's first reviews.
Can't be sure with the internet.
Brink Brungus Don't worry. I don't actually think that was a movie of the year candidate
I was worried there for a second lol
I haven't seen this movie in a couple of years but I'm pretty sure the super nova wiped out the star system and not the galaxy. Way different. I was always a Star Wars fan but this trilogy (so far) has gotten me WAY into Star Trek. Star Trek Beyond was my favorite of the three (seriously SO GREAT). The new star wars movies? (Looking at you The Last Jedi) Not so much. I'm really looking forward to a possible fourth Star Trek though!! Make it happen, folks!!!!
To me, Nero was just simply there as a device in which to develop the crew's building relationship with each other, particularily Kirk and Spock's. He had a motive and being Romulan he was closer to Vulcan's ancestry. The focus of this film was really about re-introducing the crew.
The depiction of him being conflicted and confused between emotion and logic is just sooooooo good. He is literally the most interesting character in the movie because of that, and again, I am so shocked that him being conflicted between emotion and logic has never actually been developped in the previous movies. Really nice job JJ!
Not a huge Star Trek guy, but I liked the movie alright. That supernova destroying the galaxy thing rubbed me the wrong way though, as did the villain blaming the destruction of his home planet through that supernova on Spock and the federation. Or, you know, that space-faring, technologically advanced race could have just vacated their planet, it's not like we can't roughly calculate when a star is gonna blow up.
Jeremy, add these two movie's to your review. It is a must, The Godfather Part 1 and 2 PLEASE!!!
and Citizen Kane
I just saw this movie and I think it's really good! Now I want to see Into Darkness...
Into Darkness is even better IMO.
Yeah I saw it yesterday on Blu-Ray. It looks soooooo great!
@@kingkusnacht Darkness whoa!:) ---and speaking of Dr. Whooooo ---- I look forward to future projects from player of 'Mickey the Idiot' from season 1 and 2, etc of nuWho
5:08 I couldnt stop laughing at "oh yea... no vulcan neck grips here"
8:20 I know that this video is pretty old and someone may have already said this but I always took the mind meld scene as the supernova destroying the solar system Romulus was in, not the entire galaxy. It’s just that Spock prime was just a little too late on the arrival to save Nero’s home.
But he says “galaxy” in the movie, so...
I only like star trek because of these two movies
You are probably young.
Karlo Tvrtko 18
So you probably didn't watched TOS and other movies
no i did not because im not interested in those
You can't fully appreciate the two most recent Star Trek movies by neglecting the first six Star Treks with the original crew.
When you talk about the physics and how they were trying to stop vulcan from being non existant, they could have been pushed from space into the gravity.
They were thrown out by the pressurized atmosphere within a confined space suddenly exposed to vacuum...
And yes, you can skydive from space into atmo if you're properly shielded and not jsut following the trajectory of the vessel that dropped you. Gravity at space station level is nearly as strong as it is at sea level, it's jsut things that are up there are only falling as fast as the planet is falling away from them so they never get any closer.
I LOATHED Star Trek... BEFORE JJ Abrams. This movie was awesome. Star Trek is no longer boring. And I loved Into Darkness even more.
+Aynge Mackay That's cool. I disagree but that's fine. But...why do you like the JJ Treks so much? I mean, they aren't really Star Trek movies--which is fine in your case as you don't like them--but what do they have that you do like?
They are slickly produce, fast-paced and energetic sci-fi action movies, no doubt but...there are A LOT of slickly produce popcorn sci-fic action movies running around. Why these ones if you don't like the Star Trek setting?
I thought into darkness Was trash but I loved beyond and the 1st one
Nerd moment:
Warp drive would not splat people to the back of the ship, because technically the ship isn't moving.
A warp bubble contracts the space in front of the object while expanding the space behind it. The ship isn't moving, the space is the thing that's moving.
That's why trans-warp beaming is talked about in this movie. "It never occurred to me to think of space as the thing that was moving", which actually doesn't make sense from Mr. Scott since he should know how warp technology works.
Jeremy, I've been watching your reviews since the "Movieman days, and I gotta say, you have seriously come a long way. You've inspired an appreciation for good film making in me and I have become so much more of a film fan because of you. I've been watching other really cool reviewers like the Schmoes and Stuckmann along with you now for a few years, but you were the first to show me how awesome movies really are if you take a harder look into them than just casual entertainment. So thanks!
The Motion Picture: Not Seen
The Wrath of Khan: Blu-Ray
The Search For Spock: Awesometacular
The Voyage Home: Good Time If Your Drunk
The Final Frontier: Not Seen
The Undiscovered Country: Awesometacular
Generations: Good Time No Alcohol Required
First Contact: Awesometacular
Insurrection: Awesometacular
Nemesis: T-Minus One Day
Star Trek: Awesometacular
Into Darkness: Awesometacular
Beyond: Awesometacular
In short this is one of the greatest franchises of all time
I'm pretty sure people are going to hate me for this but beyond is the best one so far..
Beyond suck ass.
The Voyage Home is my favourite…. Agree with the rest tho
@@yudhveer99 :) wait.
you should watch Doctor Who. seriously. it's perfect for you!
3:39 Then he goes and basically remakes A New Hope with ass loads of fanservice.
***** That...explains a lot.
Abrams was never a Trekkie. Star Wars, however? Abrams is TOTALLY a fan.
What makes Abrams critics illogical
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but regarding the scene where they "dive" into the atmosphere; the shuttle has a magnetic launch system, which you hear immediately preceding their release. In addition, the air being sucked out of the shuttle would provide momentum as well. However the primary force behind their ejection is the mag-release. Not sure if that matters much to you, Jeremy, but there is at least some explanation behind what is happening in the scene. Great review!
5.35...Thats one of a hell of a Spock impression. Fantastic! :)
Pissed off teenager named Timmy?
CHARLIE X
NEED IT NOW
"Don't laugh at me!!!"
Haha I was just looking at stupid gifs of charlie x.
This movie converted me into Trekianity.
+Christian Tyler Hannah That's fantastic but...do you actually LIKE the rest of the Trek setting?
Most people draw a very firm line between the JJ-verse and the other 9 movies and 748 episodes of television.
JJ-verse is...well, Star Wars. It's fun and exciting and slickly produced sci-fi action. But it is completely separate in tone to the rest of the Trek setting (generally much more cerebral, slower paced, less action-forward, more talky...and frankly smarter--or at least it tried to be smarter whether it succeeded or not).
Nothing wrong with liking one, the other or both but they are VERY different.
+Christian Tyler Hannah same can't wait for Beyond to come out.. it better not suck
+Jonathan Grant can you stop disagreeing with people's personal opinions, there thoughts are not yours to judge
Ryan S I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with anything. I was asking a question.
The JJ movies are very different than the rest of the setting and I'm trying to figure out how your feeling on one would realistically influence your feelings on the other when there is such a tonal difference between the two.
Star Trek 3 is a good odd numbered Star Trek movie
Been a Star Trek fan since TNG, and I love this direction they have gone in as well as the new cast. Old Spock helped validate the new time line or reality whatever you wanna call it. I could care less about lens flares, but loved the intro one of the best intros in a movie ever.
Thanks man. I appreciate it.
:( You say your a Star Trek fan, yet think Spock beat Kirk because he was a better fighter................................
Really? Vulcans are about 3 times the strength of a human. It is like Kirk trying to fight Captain America in a fist fight. It doesn't happen.
Still, loved the review!
***** That's "Trekkie" not nerd.
And also, kirk left some pretty good marks on 4 guys at once in that bar fight before he was finally pinned and had the crap beaten out of him.
Kirk grew up as a tough guy, and I would bet you $1000 that he got into a LOT more fights than Spock did growing up!
Also, Spock as a kid had total surprise when he tackled the bully, thus throwing his opponent off balance. That kind of advantage is almost an instant win.
Also, I am basing my argument off the Original show, where Spock was baffled by human fist fighting. A famous quote of his after Kirk decked a guard: "Doesn't that hurt captain?"
Spartan111 Just because something happens in the TV show doesn't mean that it applies to these movies.
userunknown203 I know. That's why these movie were not exactly the best... They were Good, but not Great.
Spartan111 I really liked them, but then again, I'm not a HUGE Star Trek fan
Spock would be a better fighter strategically and physically Vulcans are bred fighters trained mentally and physically at a very young age.
Your point is valid but he is still going to be a better fighter strength aside.
not galaxy ! is the romulus star system !
review the original 3 seasons of star trek 1966 please!!!!!
I don't think I'll go back and watch all the old star trek movies/tv shows, but I did like this movie and will watch the next one. And on a side note, you should never stop making videos. These are fun to look forward to every week. Games, movies, it doesn't matter. Just keep them coming. You need more subscribers...
Just FYI, Jeremy. The information gained from the Red Bull Stratos dive is going into research on alternative reentry methods from space (including diving) when the usual reentry methods are impossible. This is going on right now. So yes, the dive into Vulcan is possible.
3 Words: Zachary Fucking Quinto
Did anyone else think he said "De Niro's ship" at 2:13 instead of Nero's ship? Still, I absolutely loved this movie.
I think he's saying "into Niro's ship" not "in De Niro's ship".
I haven't heard of Star Trek until I saw this movie.....TRUE STORY
Worst of the worst is Nemesis with The Final Frontier a close second.
WOK (Wrath of Khan) is best Star Trek movie.
KHAN!!!!
*****
No argument there.
A have a personal dislike for Generations.
Insurrection for me is really really underated.
Final Frontier was decent.
Nemesis was okayish. Just a really unfortunate way for the TNG crew to bow out.
These movies shold be named Star Crap
I remember seeing this movie on opening day, and I was mind blown how cool it was and it made me watch the old Star Trek movies and TV shows.
Just watched 'Star Trek' from 2009 for the first time. Not only was it the first time I watched the film, but it was also the first ever 'Star Trek' thing I have watched. Based on the strength of this movie, I am now a fan of 'Star Trek' and I can't wait to watch 'Star Trek Into Darkness' tonight. Great acting, cool characters and fantastic special effects. I don't know how close to the mythology of 'Trek' it really is, but as a newcomer to the franchise, I loved it.
Didn't some dude actually skydive from space in real life?
Dan Slash Yeah Felix Baumgartner in 2012
Dan Slash He was still in atmosphere though.
Hey, I think the shuttle that dropped kirk, sulu and redshirt on the rig was already in the atmosphere. Great review.
I watched it again a few days back. I've never seen the original series, and I can understand fans that nitpick that this Kirk is different than William Shatner's version. BUT, context. I've seen clips of Shatner here and there and he appears like he's in his mid-30s in the original show; Kirk in this movie is in his mid-20's at least, and it's not out of the question that he was a bit of a playboy 'back in the day'. Along with that, history was changed; Nero goes back in time and Kirk's dad gets killed off, and Kirk grew up without a dad to look up to, and in a dysfunctional home. By Star Trek: Beyond, Kirk's matured in my eyes, he's a respectable and responsible Captain; the kind of progression that would lead to him becoming Shatner's version of Kirk.
7:15 Vulcan being destroyed was great. What makes a good movie, for me, is not everything going perfect and everything being fixed, but for everything to happen in a way that allows misses and hurdles to happen.
In the skydiving scene i think maybe pike brings the shuttle to a complete stop before releasing them, taking away any orbital velocity. This would make them fall towards vulcan but at a rate that wouldn't cause a lot of heat build up. Think of the guy who jumped from the red bull balloon.
Nice review Jeremy and definitely deserves your "Awesometacular" honor. Can't wait for "Into Darkness" and won't miss it on IMax.
Where did you get this info?
Have you read the 'Star Trek: Countdown' comic? It was written by Orci, Kurtzman-- the same writing team behind the 2009 film and released before the film.
It outlines that the Hobus star system goes supernova and the resulting shock wave wipes out the Romulus system.
It's annoying that this wasn't properly explained in the 2009 film due to time/editing/pacing, but it has been outlined in expanded universe
JJ: ''A reboot movie for movie fans, not just star trek fans''
I wish he had the same energy when making the rise of skywalker
Sure, if you think sloppy camera work and rapid quick cutting qualifies as a movie.
I recently came across your channel, I love your movie reviews, so cool 😊
Other corrections: a human sky-diving from space wouldn't burn up because they won't go anywhere near fast enough. That effect is caused by the object moving to fast or being to un-aerodynamic for air to pass around it. In-atmosphere skydivers skydivers reach terminal velocity in a much thicker part of the atmosphere than that away team would have and they're not charred when they touch down. Also, warp travel is done by compressing space around the ship, so the occupants aren't going splat.
Correct me if im wrong by I dont think they would go "splat" because the concept of warp drive is bending space in front of and behind the spacecraft and transporting it without directly affecting the ship. Its essentially bending space to shorten the distance almost. The people inside the spacecraft wouldn't be affected, as u see in the movie
I waited seven years for this movie. SEVEN. YEARS. And yet, somehow, I was the fifth person in line at the theatre. Four hours early, and I was still the fifth in line. Be that as it may, I loved the hell out of it. Took my mother to see it on Mother's Day. And took my bro to see it on his birthday. It was the Month of Trek...and it was good.
Hey Jeremy. I am a huge Star Trek fan and would like to clear up some confusion you might have regarding the Hobus Supernova. According to the official prequel comic (Star Trek: Countdown) and Star Trek Online, which takes place decades after the destruction of romulus, it is discovered that a device containing several volatile materials from the Star Trek Universe was fired into the star by the Iconians as part of their plot to take over the universe.
I saw it in the I-max and got a free poster and t-shirt. It was probably the greatest thing that happened in 2009 to be honest.
DUDE! Love your reviews. Where is your Star Trek : Into Darkness review? Has it not been released there yet? I'm writing from Oz (as in Australia not a magical land with a wizard and three witches) and we've had it out for about a week (or so). So looking forward to hearing what you think. Also hoping you will do a spoiler review of the film too.
This is such an awesome film, growing up I was raised on Star Wars but this got me into Star Trek & I'm so glad that I love both :)
The best opening of any movie in the past 20 years or since and the best part about the movie is the casting
I love that these new Star Trek movies still acknowledge the old ones as the original timeline and this is the altered timeline.
I AGREE! No matter how hard I tried I couldn't find a thing about the movie to complain about. The characters, humor, balance between action and drama is every bit as good as the first movie but everything is bigger, more bombastic and more thrilling. The villain was fantastic too, unlike the first one. I just kept thinking "awesome", "awesome" and "awesome".
Just the intro scene floored me, it brought up a big smile on my face and that smile remained throughout the entire film.
Hey Jeremy. I am a huge Star Trek fan and would like to clear up some confusion you might have regarding the Hobus Supernova. According to the official prequel comic (Star Trek: Countdown) and Star Trek Online, which takes place decades after the destruction of romulus, it is discovered that a device containing several volatile materials from the Star Trek Universe was fired into the star to make it go freakin
about the skydive from space. The reason most things burn up when they hit the atmosphere is that they are moving extremely fast. For instance when skylab fell it was moving fast enough to almost stay in space (orbit) shich is about 24000 mph. If you entered the atmosphere moving much slower the burn won't happen till you get moving fast enough for friction to ignite you.
I'd like to see reviews by you on the various series & movies of Star Trek pre-2009.
you mentioned the "supernova wiping out the galaxy" and if it were a normal Supernova, yeah, no it wouldn't have. But these are details delved into in "Countdown" and "Star Trek Online" in that this isn't a simple Supernova, but a Subspace shockwave fueled by protomatter (remember the Genesis device from Wrath of Khan?). And the space jump, the drill was stationary, not at orbital velocity. They aren't falling at 17k mph, so the burn-up is negated.
I recognize that Nero is a weak character, but I didn't mind him for 2 reasons. 1. Eric Bana nails it. 2. He creates a connection between Kirk and Spock: George Kirk sacrificed himself fighting Nero to save Jim and his mom and he killed Spock's mom and destroyed his planet.
Fantastic review as usual Jeremy :)
It's crazy that Mr. Jahns hasn't changed in his style of analyzing movies and the scenes that make them up, and yet he's still TOTALLY relevant in his analysis. I fully accept this may be a dovetail of taste. Jeremy just seems to have the same taste in movies as myself, which is useful to me, as a review.
Edit: I did like Eric Bana as Nero.
The Supernova was actually a very rare type of star that when going nova doesn't dissipate but consumes everything it engulfs as fuel and spreads and spreads and spreads until the entire galaxy is gone. It went down in the Countdown tie in comic and it also gave Nero so much needed characterization. Also it seems supernovas like that one do exist but not to galaxy killing degrees.The biggest was theorized to have been 300 light years big.
look into it. i don't know much about it myself, but i do know that space and time (spacetime) can be can be bend or "warped." but this would require a ton of energy which i believe they make by clashing together matter and anti-matter. which causes in theory the amount of energy needed to warp space. this warp shortens the distance between the ship and it's target by a great deal allowing them to travel faster than the speed of light without breaking the laws of physics.
I'm a child of the 60 so that said you know I'm a huge fan of the original then came this reboot and I could not have asked for a better. JJ has taken our beloved Trek and given it the loving polish of a master violin maker! Star Trek is in good hands. I'm glad.
Them skydiving onto Vulcan, its the depressurisation and the gravity that propels them toward it, and they don't burn up because they're not moving fast enough to generate enough friction with the atmosphere to produce that effect. Warp Drive isn't fatal to the crew because of the ship's inertial dampeners.
Hi Jeremy
Fantastic review of Star Trek, I got to hand it to you, you really know how to sum up Movies very well. I absolutely loved this movie, and the humor was also great. The scene where Kirk gets injected by Bones and faints is so hilarious. Overall I think it was an awesome movie, and I'm glad they brought back the phaser guns as well. I wonder how the cast used for the J.J. Abrams' Star Trek will do if they make a new series out of it? That would be really interesting.
Regards
Gerann
Maybe I should get into Star Trek, because from what I've seen from this comment section, the Star Trek fanbase is NOWHERE NEAR as toxic as the Star Wars fanbase
Jeremy the movie premiers tonight in Mexico. I will see it tomorrow and let you know how goes.
favorite sci-fi films of the past decade. Into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim are my top three movies I'm anticipated for. Oh, and if you want to know what I know think of Transformers 2. I can't pass the first hour of that movie now. Every frame, there is a problem or two.
Thanks a lot Jermany Jahns for this review. I gave my dad Star Trek as his bday present and he loved it.
Jeremy I think every single aspect of this review was spot on. I've probably watched hundreds of them at this point, and this was in my humble opinion one of your best.
In the movie Scotty said the space is what moves.If a ship can move space that is around it backwards and a ship can drive in it that could give of a super speed look.
I don't know if anyone noticed but the myth that people dressed in red die from the series is still alive in this movie: the guy that jumps with Kirk and Sulu on the platform, his suit is read and he dies.
A friend of mine thinks that Cumberbatch might actually be Jean-Luc Picard from the future, primarily because we see a giant-ass Enterprise-looking ship attack Kirk's Enterprise in the latest Into Darkness trailer. The timeline was forever changed with Nero, so who knows, maybe Picard is evil in this new timeline. Probably not the case, but fun to speculate!
'Star Trek Into Darkness' is........Awesometacular! Was epic Jeremy! Saw it today in 3D and favourite film this year and cant wait to see it again! Cant wait for your review! :)
If there is one statement that i have ever been more sure of then this, i don't know what it is but: The intro to Star Trek is one of the most perfect things ever.
To This Day Its Almost Bugs Me How Perfect That Game Over Tune Impersonation Was.
Thanks for finally reviewing this movie! Another review nailed-totally agree with you on almost all the points,especially on the even and odd numbered Star Trek Movies^^ BUT for me the campfire scenes of Kirk, Bones and Spock in the beginning and end of Star Trek V make for one of the greatest moments of the old Star Trek cast. So despite all the BSin between these two scenes made the movie for me.Greets from Germany, keep up the good work - and pls review the Indiana Jones Trilogy one day ;)
Thanks Jeremy for explaining everything lol I just got this movie yesterday and watched it until 5am, went to sleep, and I'm watching it again. I'm addicted and can't wait to watch Into Darkness.
well scotty did mention something about warp thingy implies that space is the one that moves and not the ship thats why people inside enterprise doesnt go splat like you said. awesome review as always
absolutely LOOOVE this guy's review!! very cool, witty, he's definitely a trek fan with the stuff he throws in now & then, & love how as he does the review his monologue wanders all over the place, which is exactly how i think too! fantastic! definitely subscribing to this dude! very happy I watched it!