Finally, someone who really knows his stuff and could explain the intricate and accurate detail on how to position the popped out window and more importantly, make xplane remember it between sessions.
X-Plane 12.06b2 no longer has the objects that you mention in your video. I think they've made the entire cockpit for their C172 and SR22 to be 3D. Would you be able to suggest how one could get rid of the bezels in such a situation? Thanks so much!
Thank you for the video Russ, curious to know if there is a way with Xplane 11 to lock the pop outs in order to open in the correct location and size when using Air Manager?
Harry Gordon you just need to replace the file with a 1x1 transparent png file of the same name. The confusing part was a suggestion to rename and save the original file for future use of the G530 with the bezel.
With AIr Manager 4.2 and X-Plane 12 this whole process as rather obsolete as the video is automatically streamed into the Air Manager bezel see th-cam.com/video/dWEWx9fUU-g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yD6SLjDo-jJovEaC
Russ, thanks for all your help. I accidentally deleted my last comment when trying to reply/edit to it... (WHOOPS) Thanks for your reply though- I was able to read it- I apologize for accidentally deleting it, unfortunately others can't see it now... Hoping you can help one more time. I've managed to get things not to crash. Haven't changed anything, but maybe it was my user error? Maybe I just needed a reboot? ANYWAYS, I'm trying to do the same with the no bezel for G1000, and I found the files in Bitmaps>cockpit>EFIS>G1000. I changed the G1000PFD 2d file and this doesn't seem to work. However, I am seeing several more similar files (G1000PFD 2dGDU 1040, 1042, 1043, 1044, and 1045) Do I need to change ALL of them? Is each one for a different aircraft? How does that work? I figured I would ask before I change too much stuff at once. Thanks in advance! By the way, your videos are so informative, and thorough, step by step- I cannot express my gratitude enough for your hard work!
Great video, really helpful. Does the manual edit methods all only work in the latest beta - so those not on the beta stream will have to wait for the general release of 11.10 ? does your ma reallt care about the bezel
hey, can that be done with the 430 aswell... i magetting strange results, the frame is gone but the bottons names still appear, any clue? thanks in advance
Thanks for the video Russ, it got me going on the right track . I used Gimp create the Garmin_530_2d.png with transparency. At X11 start the popup 530 appeared with a transparent background with with the X11 data blended in and this went with the popup when moving to the Realsim device. However all OTHER screens of the GNS had a black background as expected. Russ, can you please explain?
When I click on the upper right corner to drag it the FPS drops by 50%. I realize I have something set up incorrect, but, I have no idea what. Any thoughts ?
hmmmm... since the popped out window contains 2D graphics the pentality is usually pretty low, like 1-2 FPS. Aside from being sure your Graphics card drivers are up to date not sure what to suggest. What CPU and GPU do you have? How many monitors in use? What plugins are you running in X-Plane? What are the before and after FPS?
Thanks for this, Russ. I would emphasize the need to edit the x.png file using the Paint app and the Miscellaneous preference file in Notepad...in Windows at least.
Russ I've only just got round to seeing your videos which are great. This one got me thinking that you may be able to help me with the problem I have regarding pop-out G1000 PFD on my desk top computer. The MFD pops out when clicked with the mouse but the PFD refuses to pop out. This only happens on my desktop computer. When I load X-Plane into my laptop I have no problems with either PFD or MFD. Any help you can give will be much appreciated.
John Bolton not sure I understand completely. To be sure on our nomenclature when I click the virtual cockpit the 2D display( PFD or MFD) “ pops up”. Clicking the upper right icon on the pop up causes it to “pop out” into a separate window that can be dragged outside the XP11 window. I have noticed that you need to drag the first popped out window off the monitor with XP to another monitor before you can pop out the second 2D display. I noticed this a while back but haven’t tried it lately. If that doesn’t help maybe you can explain further.
@@rbarlow Thanks for your reply Russ, since I sent my request for help I experimented with the preferences script and discovered that my "pop up" was popping up outside of my main monitor out of view. Somehow the co-ordinates had gone negative on the top of the screen. I changed them to positive numbers in the script saved it restarted X-Plane and low and behold I now have my PFD pop up screen back in view. Many many thanks for your very informative video.
Great help, thank you my friend! I was some confuse about 1x1 pixel. But i just got a PNG transparent file, adjusted pixel 1x1 and save with same name of the original file (Garmin_530_2D) paste and replace original file. After this you need to click in popup on up right side and refresh X-Plane 11. Thanks man!
I have done everything that You say, and still the screen on the same resolution inside the poped out window. The bezzels are Just Black. But if Its not poped out, Your solution seems to be right.
Russ great videos very informative and detailed explanations are fantastic. I’m on the list to get one of the Garmin kits can’t wait to receive ,would never have known without being subscribed. I see siminovations has released Air Manager 3.0 could you do an undated video now it’s been released. Also your video on multi monitor setup helped me understand the weird angles I was seeing due to my POV being off. Thanks John
I too am unable to get this to work. The popout refuses to popout with the corrected file. I'm wondering if I'm not doing the 1x1 pixel change correctly. I'm opening the file in MS Paint, selecting resize and entering 1 x 1 pixels. Then resaving the file as a png file. Any help would be great thanks. Using X-Plane 11 latest.
Rick Sinclair besides reducing the size to 1x1 you also need to make that single pixel transparent. That aside, to pop out you need to first pop the window up into the XP11 screen as a 2D graphic. You can only drag the pop up within the boundaries of the XP11 window. Then hover your mouse over the upper right corner of the pop up G530 until you see a icon of two boxes (like one popping out of the other). When you click that the G530 will become a separate window from XP and can be dragged anywhere on your extended Desktop you can pop out the G530 with or without the bezel so I doubt the MS editing is your problem.
@@rbarlow Hi Russ thanks for that. I found the issue. The window is now popping out but entirely transperent. I had to move the mouse around quite a bit until I could see just the red left hand dot and the righthand icon. Once I clicked on that the window then changed to an black screen but at least the title bar was visble. I've got some images to so you. I've emailed you before so will use that medium
Got it working. Had to turn on the Avionics (duh). This popped out a completely transparent screen but when clicked for a separate window option all came right. All happy now
Thanks for this, Russ. I did encounter a problem, though. The display starts to persist when the screen changes. For example, I pop up the MSG screen, and when I go back to the mainn display the text from the MSG screen is still there. After a while, the screen is just a mess. Any ideas?
Sally Sparks that is a new one I have never encountered but is obviously an X-Plane issue. What version of X-Plane 11 are you using? I assume you are popping the screen out from a master instance of X-Plane (if you are running it on more than one computer simultaneously). Is the 3D Cockpit G530 screen behaving the same? It should be the same as the popped out GPS. Could your computer be strained performance-wise running multiple windows in X-Plane and acting strangely? Sorry but I haven’t seen this behavior yet.
Russ Barlow I’m running 11.25b1. The screen in the cockpit is ok. The computer is pretty powerful with a 1070 card and frame rates are acceptable. Maybe I should start over with the files and see what happens. Thanks for responding.
I should say 11.2. I don't thinnk .25 is quite out yet. But I discovered this problem only happens when I'm in VR mode. You may wonder why I want an external screen in VR, but I have it where I can peer under the hood and see the screen much more clearly, so it's u seful.
Sally Sparks My suggestion is to fill out a bug report and submit it to Laminar Research as they may have a solution. Sorry I can’t be more help than that.
Thank you again Russ for your great videos. I followed your instructions and succeeded to remove the bezel with the transparent 1×1 pixel new file. However, for some strange reasons, when editing and translating the values of the miscellaneous file, in order to remove the upper bar displayed, it is not disappearing. And the changes made on the values (0 for top and modified for the bottom) are not memorized when i launch xplane although I save the file before closing it and launching the sim.
Actually you can eliminate the G1000 bezel the same way. Just replace the 2D g1000 bezel file with a 1 px X 1 px transparent . PNG file and the bezel will disappear.
Finally, someone who really knows his stuff and could explain the intricate and accurate detail on how to position the popped out window and more importantly, make xplane remember it between sessions.
The Alt Drag app worked perfectly for me! Thanks for the tutorial!
Thanks for taking the time to produce your help video. Very much appreciated, and highly accurate in all respects!!
Thanks, figured it out just after my question, thanks for great video, wouldn't be the same without them.
Hi Russ Barlow, You are the man! I had problems with gns 530 in PA-31 for xplane11, and this video save me! Thanks, thanks..thanks!
X-Plane 12.06b2 no longer has the objects that you mention in your video. I think they've made the entire cockpit for their C172 and SR22 to be 3D. Would you be able to suggest how one could get rid of the bezels in such a situation? Thanks so much!
I was successful with the G530 but unable to on the G1000. How is that down?
Thanks for posting this Russ! Finally able to fit the GPS in my VRinsight ProPit screen :-)
Thank you for the video Russ, curious to know if there is a way with Xplane 11 to lock the pop outs in order to open in the correct location and size when using Air Manager?
Followed the video, but lost me on the garmin 530 conversion to 1x1 bit transparent png file, What needs to be done to convert/edit this file?
Harry Gordon you just need to replace the file with a 1x1 transparent png file of the same name. The confusing part was a suggestion to rename and save the original file for future use of the G530 with the bezel.
Really great job, I wonder if there is any way to pop up the six packs or the radios so I can read them easily? I am not a big fan of air manager !
You missed the most important point at 3:31. How to make it 1:1?
With AIr Manager 4.2 and X-Plane 12 this whole process as rather obsolete as the video is automatically streamed into the Air Manager bezel see th-cam.com/video/dWEWx9fUU-g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yD6SLjDo-jJovEaC
Russ, thanks for all your help. I accidentally deleted my last comment when trying to reply/edit to it... (WHOOPS) Thanks for your reply though- I was able to read it- I apologize for accidentally deleting it, unfortunately others can't see it now...
Hoping you can help one more time. I've managed to get things not to crash. Haven't changed anything, but maybe it was my user error? Maybe I just needed a reboot? ANYWAYS, I'm trying to do the same with the no bezel for G1000, and I found the files in Bitmaps>cockpit>EFIS>G1000. I changed the G1000PFD 2d file and this doesn't seem to work. However, I am seeing several more similar files (G1000PFD 2dGDU 1040, 1042, 1043, 1044, and 1045) Do I need to change ALL of them? Is each one for a different aircraft? How does that work? I figured I would ask before I change too much stuff at once. Thanks in advance!
By the way, your videos are so informative, and thorough, step by step- I cannot express my gratitude enough for your hard work!
Nice, I can definitely use for my GTN750
Great video, really helpful. Does the manual edit methods all only work in the latest beta - so those not on the beta stream will have to wait for the general release of 11.10 ? does your ma reallt care about the bezel
hey, can that be done with the 430 aswell... i magetting strange results, the frame is gone but the bottons names still appear, any clue? thanks in advance
Definitely works for 430 too
Double check you modified the correct file…. There are several with similar names
Thanks!
Works great with the Stock, now, any idea how to apply it to 3ed Party Birds like the Carenado B58 ???
i figured out the problem, it was making a 2x1 size.... all perfect now
Thanks for the video Russ, it got me going on the right track . I used Gimp create the Garmin_530_2d.png with transparency. At X11 start the popup 530 appeared with a transparent background with with the X11 data blended in and this went with the popup when moving to the Realsim device. However all OTHER screens of the GNS had a black background as expected.
Russ, can you please explain?
When I click on the upper right corner to drag it the FPS drops by 50%. I realize I have something set up incorrect, but, I have no idea what. Any thoughts ?
hmmmm... since the popped out window contains 2D graphics the pentality is usually pretty low, like 1-2 FPS. Aside from being sure your Graphics card drivers are up to date not sure what to suggest. What CPU and GPU do you have? How many monitors in use? What plugins are you running in X-Plane? What are the before and after FPS?
Thanks for this, Russ. I would emphasize the need to edit the x.png file using the Paint app and the Miscellaneous preference file in Notepad...in Windows at least.
good point.
Russ, this is a first rate explanation of the final tuning of a nice kit-addition to XPlane. It all is working well here and much appreciated!
Russ I've only just got round to seeing your videos which are great. This one got me thinking that you may be able to help me with the problem I have regarding pop-out G1000 PFD on my desk top computer. The MFD pops out when clicked with the mouse but the PFD refuses to pop out. This only happens on my desktop computer. When I load X-Plane into my laptop I have no problems with either PFD or MFD. Any help you can give will be much appreciated.
John Bolton not sure I understand completely. To be sure on our nomenclature when I click the virtual cockpit the 2D display( PFD or MFD) “ pops up”. Clicking the upper right icon on the pop up causes it to “pop out” into a separate window that can be dragged outside the XP11 window. I have noticed that you need to drag the first popped out window off the monitor with XP to another monitor before you can pop out the second 2D display. I noticed this a while back but haven’t tried it lately. If that doesn’t help maybe you can explain further.
@@rbarlow Thanks for your reply Russ, since I sent my request for help I experimented with the preferences script and discovered that my "pop up" was popping up outside of my main monitor out of view. Somehow the co-ordinates had gone negative on the top of the screen. I changed them to positive numbers in the script saved it restarted X-Plane and low and behold I now have my PFD pop up screen back in view. Many many thanks for your very informative video.
Great help, thank you my friend! I was some confuse about 1x1 pixel. But i just got a PNG transparent file, adjusted pixel 1x1 and save with same name of the original file (Garmin_530_2D) paste and replace original file. After this you need to click in popup on up right side and refresh X-Plane 11. Thanks man!
I have done everything that You say, and still the screen on the same resolution inside the poped out window. The bezzels are Just Black. But if Its not poped out, Your solution seems to be right.
Oswaldo Neto Segundo Needs to be a .png file and must be named with the same exact file name as the one it replaces
Russ great videos very informative and detailed explanations are fantastic. I’m on the list to get one of the Garmin kits can’t wait to receive ,would never have known without being subscribed. I see siminovations has released Air Manager 3.0 could you do an undated video now it’s been released. Also your video on multi monitor setup helped me understand the weird angles I was seeing due to my POV being off. Thanks John
Thank you !
I can’t find the g-1000 bezel in bitmaps to remove it. Where is it?
In cockpit/EFIS folder
I too am unable to get this to work. The popout refuses to popout with the corrected file. I'm wondering if I'm not doing the 1x1 pixel change correctly. I'm opening the file in MS Paint, selecting resize and entering 1 x 1 pixels. Then resaving the file as a png file. Any help would be great thanks. Using X-Plane 11 latest.
Rick Sinclair besides reducing the size to 1x1 you also need to make that single pixel transparent. That aside, to pop out you need to first pop the window up into the XP11 screen as a 2D graphic. You can only drag the pop up within the boundaries of the XP11 window. Then hover your mouse over the upper right corner of the pop up G530 until you see a icon of two boxes (like one popping out of the other). When you click that the G530 will become a separate window from XP and can be dragged anywhere on your extended Desktop you can pop out the G530 with or without the bezel so I doubt the MS editing is your problem.
@@rbarlow Hi Russ thanks for that. I found the issue. The window is now popping out but entirely transperent. I had to move the mouse around quite a bit until I could see just the red left hand dot and the righthand icon. Once I clicked on that the window then changed to an black screen but at least the title bar was visble. I've got some images to so you. I've emailed you before so will use that medium
Got it working. Had to turn on the Avionics (duh). This popped out a completely transparent screen but when clicked for a separate window option all came right. All happy now
Rick Sinclair always the little things isn’t it. Glad you hung in there.
Thanks for this, Russ. I did encounter a problem, though. The display starts to persist when the screen changes. For example, I pop up the MSG screen, and when I go back to the mainn display the text from the MSG screen is still there. After a while, the screen is just a mess. Any ideas?
Sally Sparks that is a new one I have never encountered but is obviously an X-Plane issue. What version of X-Plane 11 are you using? I assume you are popping the screen out from a master instance of X-Plane (if you are running it on more than one computer simultaneously). Is the 3D Cockpit G530 screen behaving the same? It should be the same as the popped out GPS. Could your computer be strained performance-wise running multiple windows in X-Plane and acting strangely? Sorry but I haven’t seen this behavior yet.
Russ Barlow I’m running 11.25b1. The screen in the cockpit is ok. The computer is pretty powerful with a 1070 card and frame rates are acceptable. Maybe I should start over with the files and see what happens. Thanks for responding.
I should say 11.2. I don't thinnk .25 is quite out yet. But I discovered this problem only happens when I'm in VR mode. You may wonder why I want an external screen in VR, but I have it where I can peer under the hood and see the screen much more clearly, so it's u seful.
Sally Sparks My suggestion is to fill out a bug report and submit it to Laminar Research as they may have a solution. Sorry I can’t be more help than that.
Thank you again Russ for your great videos. I followed your instructions and succeeded to remove the bezel with the transparent 1×1 pixel new file.
However, for some strange reasons, when editing and translating the values of the miscellaneous file, in order to remove the upper bar displayed, it is not disappearing. And the changes made on the values (0 for top and modified for the bottom) are not memorized when i launch xplane although I save the file before closing it and launching the sim.
Woo, gonna try that :)
X-plane11>Ouput> References>miscellaneous dows not exist on my system, so still got the full screen problem
David Walker preferences NOT references folder
Hi!!!
nice for an ancient GPS, but not applicable to the G1000
Actually you can eliminate the G1000 bezel the same way. Just replace the 2D g1000 bezel file with a 1 px X 1 px transparent . PNG file and the bezel will disappear.
@@rbarlow thanks, but in my folder, I don't see the g1000 listed. am I looking in the wrong place?