Mistaken Identity, Panther 2 Revisited | Cursed by Design

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  • @ConeOfArc
    @ConeOfArc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Be sure to try #Warpath for free today: bit.ly/38mkNYn and use code AIRFORCE2021 for some free stuff worth $10.

    • @columc
      @columc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ok

    • @soupy4593
      @soupy4593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks for making a video to make the info panther II video accurate

    • @nagykiss6020
      @nagykiss6020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      You advertising a scammy, spineless, mobile game, pretending it is a simulation instead of stealing money from people....you lost ALL OF YOUR CREDIBILITY THERE!

    • @columc
      @columc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@nagykiss6020 give him a break

    • @Furyfrags
      @Furyfrags 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@nagykiss6020 youtubers need money, sponsers are super important. You will never understand

  • @bobfrancis123
    @bobfrancis123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +639

    A sign of a true historian! “New, reliable info become available? I should check my old hypotheses on the subject. Oh, I’ve made errors! Acknowledge and correct them!”
    Excellent work Cone of Arc!

  • @brendonbewersdorf986
    @brendonbewersdorf986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +642

    The panther is such an asthetically pleasing tank I'm not disappointed to see the Panther 2 again

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes, and especially the Schmalturm turret :D

    • @garlkurzer
      @garlkurzer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No, its not

    • @brendonbewersdorf986
      @brendonbewersdorf986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@garlkurzer well that's just like your opinion man 😂

    • @jamesfra1311
      @jamesfra1311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@derrickstorm6976 You know, she's pretty tight 🤣 alright

    • @raigarmullerson4838
      @raigarmullerson4838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@garlkurzer well good luck standing alone on that opinion lol

  • @anonbefallen4807
    @anonbefallen4807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    ConeOfArk:"War path is very historically accurate"
    Me: They just labeled Midway in the Atlantic ocean...

  • @fabovondestory
    @fabovondestory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    Warpath is accurate,
    SHOWS MIDWAY IN THE ATLANTIC

    • @immortalized4405
      @immortalized4405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Was coming here for that, it took me a moment “wait a gosh darn minute-“

    • @noobepro_7146
      @noobepro_7146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      World war II with ICBM and helicopter

    • @deptusmechanikus7362
      @deptusmechanikus7362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      sponsors usually demand small channels read their cringy scripts word for word

    • @killfordosh1
      @killfordosh1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      In game descriptions say that the KV-2 didn't use its gun and instead ran over enemy tanks lmao

    • @unusualincidentsunit7428
      @unusualincidentsunit7428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Warpath: it is accurate
      Also warpath: proceeds to have stuff that came after ww2

  • @123dodo4
    @123dodo4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    ConeOfArc: Panther 2 mistakes.
    Spookston: The panther 2 problem.
    IronArmenian: THICC PANTHER 88
    Phlydaily: *Cursed Image of Panther2*

    • @TR33ZY_CRTM
      @TR33ZY_CRTM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      ConeOfArc: *makes factual video on the Panther II*
      Spookston: "The Panther II is overpowered." *proceeds to curb stomp everyone in a full downtier*
      Iron: *Big Tiddy Baron waifu*
      Phly: *good gameplay and memes*

    • @NoSaysJo
      @NoSaysJo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TR33ZY_CRTM phly cringe

    • @hunterbear2421
      @hunterbear2421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bo time gaming , i found a pretty good youtuber i wouldn't use his videos to train to play better tho its better to learn yourself the hard way.

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NoSaysJoyou sound like a spookston stan

    • @exoticdachoo007
      @exoticdachoo007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@maplearrow1842Spookston literally says that he doesn't know why anyone hates on Phly, the dude basically just minds his own business. People are just stupid

  • @NukieDookie
    @NukieDookie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    So on warpath, the “he100” in the game is actually the HE-112. So accuracy is meh

    • @jurkoskvarka2154
      @jurkoskvarka2154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      and then tiger p and tiger 1 have the same name

    • @panzerforelle126
      @panzerforelle126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      You’re talking about accuracy in Warpath, really?

    • @karotgamin790
      @karotgamin790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think that warpath is kinda inaccurate.

    • @humzaakhtar9208
      @humzaakhtar9208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      *calls ju 87 g panzerknacker without landing gear FW190*

    • @thenewstanza9069
      @thenewstanza9069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Warpath is ridiculously inaccurate at some parts

  • @nqd_tree5277
    @nqd_tree5277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Warpath historical accuracy
    *US medium tank: Panzer IV*
    *Dive bomber: P-40E*

    • @Alpha_627
      @Alpha_627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      One of their ads shows a BF-109 dropping a bomb that carried soldiers being intercepted by JU-87 Stukas…because yes

    • @edwardkenway148
      @edwardkenway148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alpha_627 yo wtf

    • @Alpha_627
      @Alpha_627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@edwardkenway148 exactly, and if I remember correctly the Richelieu class battleships were the size of landing ships in length, and quite possibly were the landing ships

    • @Osprey5435
      @Osprey5435 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alpha_627 bruh

    • @garynew9637
      @garynew9637 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha

  • @Kyle-gw6qp
    @Kyle-gw6qp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    I strongly disagree with Warpath as a sponsor. But I understand that people need to eat and if you have to shill a shitty mobile game, then so be it.

    • @tipi5586
      @tipi5586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He's eating pretty well, it's at least a grand per sponsor for him.

    • @Kyle-gw6qp
      @Kyle-gw6qp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@tipi5586 Ok. How often are his videos? Once a week? A grand a week isn't a huge amount. Especially when you consider rent and electricity and water and software licenses.

    • @RJstillalive
      @RJstillalive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Just skip the part. You won’t see any more warpath crap, and Coneofarc still can earn some money for his stuff

    • @mouzeeczech9921
      @mouzeeczech9921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Kyle-gw6qp He does have a job although he said TH-cam gives him more money at this point.

    • @SlavaUkraini345
      @SlavaUkraini345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Warpath is actually a pretty good game. I've played it since the beta and it just keeps getting better.

  • @katyusha1283
    @katyusha1283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    1:12 Yeah... It takes it very seriously by calling a BT-7 "medium tank"...

    • @alphaplayzz1381
      @alphaplayzz1381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And adding a mouse (maus) v2

    • @Cbrmkn98xs
      @Cbrmkn98xs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Nice
      It looks like the repeat of the WoT vs. WT historical accuracy wars

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@alphaplayzz1381 thats actually accurate because the two prototype Maus tanks are referred to a v1 and v2. V2 was the one completed with the turret and V1 was a hull with a turret weight.

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I already sent some information to hopefully correct one similar issue with a label ingame and have offered to help make some corrections if they want me to.

    • @alphaplayzz1381
      @alphaplayzz1381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ConeOfArc they have three versions of the maus, prototype, V1, V2. One of those has to be wrong

  • @midhansolo7864
    @midhansolo7864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    It was a mistake, you don't need to apologise.

  • @whateverthisis389
    @whateverthisis389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    "Today's sponsor has taken historical accuracy very seriously"
    *shows the Midway Islands in the middle of the Atlantic*

    • @BlackMasterRoshi
      @BlackMasterRoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      well, where would you put them?

    • @arctictiger8690
      @arctictiger8690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@BlackMasterRoshi the Great Lakes

    • @whateverthisis389
      @whateverthisis389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BlackMasterRoshi in the middle of the pacific

    • @TR33ZY_CRTM
      @TR33ZY_CRTM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BlackMasterRoshi somewhere along the Mississippi River

    • @picklr3893
      @picklr3893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They didn't say geographical accuracy tho

  • @TheLumberjack1987
    @TheLumberjack1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    The wording of the 1999 edition of Spielberger's book is hilarious.
    The word "Abarten" is can be translated more accurately as "abominations" and less as "Variants".
    The german word for variants is "Varianten".
    Like, technically the translation is fine, but "Abart" or "abartig" is more commonly used to express disgust.
    So the title of the book is more like "The Panther tank and its abominations", made me chuckle.

    • @ottovonbismarck2443
      @ottovonbismarck2443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Variante" comes from Latin. "Abart" is the (correct) old German word. You just don't hear it anymore in that context.

    • @TheLumberjack1987
      @TheLumberjack1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ottovonbismarck2443 Yeah it's just amazing how language changes in just 80 years.
      I'd not be surprised if some people in some town in Germany still use the word "Abart" like that but I've literally never heard it being used that way my whole life (I'm in my 30s now).
      Or maybe it's still used in some scientific literature, just not colloquially.

    • @ottovonbismarck2443
      @ottovonbismarck2443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheLumberjack1987 I myself can't remember to ever have used the word in the last 30 years, and I'm 50 and German.

    • @alfredorotondo
      @alfredorotondo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ottovonbismarck2443 abart in italian sounds like "aborto" (abortion/aborted child)
      I think that "the panther and its aborted children" would be a fine name

    • @ottovonbismarck2443
      @ottovonbismarck2443 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alfredorotondo Ciao ! The adjective in German means "pervert", which makes it "Panther and the Perverts"
      Sounds like a Punk Rock band ... 🤣

  • @PhongChu-vm2ql
    @PhongChu-vm2ql 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    possible topics: e-series, amx-50 program, ELC program, t29+t30+t34, Chrysler K, Tiger ii variants, hwk series, vk 30 series, t-44 development, t-34 prototypes, is/t-10, AE Phases designs, T110 series, German 1945 proposals (rear transmission, 75mm l/100,...etc), M7 medium tank debacle, M-26 Pershing development history (T20 series), Type 61/74 development.

  • @QuintonMurdock
    @QuintonMurdock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Speaking of historical accuracy *warpath* lmfao

    • @jesusdeputy931
      @jesusdeputy931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Played it for a week its shit

    • @QuintonMurdock
      @QuintonMurdock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jesusdeputy931 shocking

  • @adastra3280
    @adastra3280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i like how in the intro now for ALL of these it says "Ancient Designs" and yet the earliest we've gone is the early 1920s.
    Where's my Da Vinci tank, Cone??

  • @kurdtcocaine0
    @kurdtcocaine0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    1:24 ah yes, the famous Midway atoll situated in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean

  • @thecorneroftheinternet4656
    @thecorneroftheinternet4656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    "Warpath is accurately historical"
    *shows a ww2 soldier holding a M16A4 in probably 1940*

    • @FOlklorens
      @FOlklorens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Dont forget that they put midway in the atlantic

    • @Osprey5435
      @Osprey5435 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@FOlklorens how do you mess that up

    • @FOlklorens
      @FOlklorens ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Osprey5435 Wdym?

    • @Osprey5435
      @Osprey5435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FOlklorens i was wondering how they managed to place midway in the Atlantic

    • @FOlklorens
      @FOlklorens ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Osprey5435 Okay

  • @Darilon12
    @Darilon12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    12:17 "the tale/tail of the panther II" ... shows rear of panther. I see what you did there ...

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Unintentional tbh

    • @teslashark
      @teslashark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ConeOfArc Ass you said

    • @karotgamin790
      @karotgamin790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ConeOfArc lies?!??!?!?

  • @TheDaltonius
    @TheDaltonius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Here’s a dumb joke:
    The Germans didn’t have too many panthers and tigers in the field because the artists were too busy making modern art

    • @Kalashnikov413
      @Kalashnikov413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      this joke has 2 meanings
      1. Hitler being rejected from art school
      2. German designers more focused on designing dumb prototypes

    • @alphaplayzz1381
      @alphaplayzz1381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Kalashnikov413 the first one you suggested makes no sense in that context. Punchline is the second (I'm assuming)

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, designers build the tanks

    • @mozeskertesz6398
      @mozeskertesz6398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the Panther's drivetrain would be designed to withstand 50 tons and it would have allsteel wheels, it would be a very good tank, and possibly the Pz. IV would get its improvements.

    • @jamesfra1311
      @jamesfra1311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kalashnikov413 Modern because bunkers and ruins.

  • @drunkoutankou1273
    @drunkoutankou1273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    I wonder if you would make cursed by design on post war prototype french tanks like the AMX 50

    • @farrelavramh.8855
      @farrelavramh.8855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That would be cool

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes!

    • @thefishinggamekeeper5713
      @thefishinggamekeeper5713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What about the AMX ELC bis?

    • @mozeskertesz6398
      @mozeskertesz6398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thefishinggamekeeper5713 i think it's a WG fake. Only ELC-AMX tank existed, designed by the Bruno-Valette (idk if i write it correct) Company

    • @igoryst3049
      @igoryst3049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mozeskertesz6398 i think ELC bis was produced

  • @bobderjaegermeistertm1648
    @bobderjaegermeistertm1648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    to 4:42: why inexcusable? the human mind is bound to make mistakes and you´re here to correct this. dont worry about it and keep staying tall^^

  • @barbarossavr
    @barbarossavr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Wdym inexcusable, it was an honest mistake, if we are to blame anyone then it would be the author of the book but he made an honest mistake too. Its not your fault at all.

  • @mimicnutria18
    @mimicnutria18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Cone:please forgive me for this great sin I have committed
    Me: dude this all happend 80 years ago you are good

  • @hauptmannerich
    @hauptmannerich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Soo... That Mean Panther 2 Project just making a New Hull?

    • @Kalashnikov413
      @Kalashnikov413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      not making new hull, but improved it

    • @quentintin1
      @quentintin1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      originally just thiccer panther, later beacame standardised panther

  • @RoberttheFox0001
    @RoberttheFox0001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone makes mistakes; some of which have serious consequences. What everyone doesn't do is man-up to it like you did. I live in Illinois where no one accepts responsibility for anything. Its very refreshing. Thank You.

  • @Boric78
    @Boric78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Very diligent and professional. Great series this.

  • @algray1195
    @algray1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    SERIOUSLY?! Thank you for your exceptional series and thank you for your amazing efforts in being as accurate as HUMANLY POSSIBLE!! Keep up your amazing work!!!

  • @ninja011
    @ninja011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @ConeOfArc Bravo, for your humility, showing your integrity, but also how you investigated and explained it all out, so others do not repeat the mistake. Bravo, you are a true historian in my opinioin.

  • @jayg1438
    @jayg1438 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    someone willing to acknowledge a mistake and explain logically how it was made is far more trustworthy then someone never acknowledging a mistake.
    Well done. I appreciate the update and correction.

  • @calessel3139
    @calessel3139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit of trivia about the vehicle: While at the Patton Museum the Panther-II, still in running order, took part in 4th of July parade at Fort Knox every year up until the 1980s.

  • @marcustan7236
    @marcustan7236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Real respect for people who are willing to admit and correct mistakes

  • @ryerial7723
    @ryerial7723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see Cone go over all the historical inaccuracy in Warpath.

  • @connorsmith1005
    @connorsmith1005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genuinely apologising and admiting to a mistake made. Cone is truly ahead of their time as a TH-camr.

  • @mordhaujoe773
    @mordhaujoe773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Off topic moment. I made an amazing Hetzer in Sprocket today. I freaking amazed myself with it.
    It's an easy build doe.

  • @alexrompen805
    @alexrompen805 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work. A sign of a true historian is admitting when they make mistakes and correcting them

  • @bobhagopian888
    @bobhagopian888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are a wonderful documentary creator on topics I love! Anything to do with tanks fascinates me! Thank you for all you do with your channel!

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @statelyelms
    @statelyelms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Uh... in your Warpath ad, it showed midway island in the MIDDLE OF THE ATLANTIC
    IT'S LITERALLY GOOGLEABLE

    • @moist3963
      @moist3963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah i thought i was tripping balls when i saw that

    • @hotarutomoeofficial
      @hotarutomoeofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought i smoked something weird

  • @secdup2510
    @secdup2510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Doco.
    Admitting you got something wrong greatly increases your credibility, unfortunately to many people seem to double down or just ignore their mistakes in the hope people will eventually forget about it.

  • @ladela7348
    @ladela7348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    > Warpath
    Why. You claim to hate misinformation about tanks, yet Warpath does it all the time.

    • @fabovondestory
      @fabovondestory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They showed midway in the atlantic...

    • @raymartcarreon6069
      @raymartcarreon6069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh god

    • @bigmac3373
      @bigmac3373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fabovondestory b r u h

    • @Feten56709
      @Feten56709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      he need to feed his family man

    • @bigmac3373
      @bigmac3373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Feten56709 you got a point there

  • @Tbal_96
    @Tbal_96 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you I did a similar write up years ago on the War Thunder forum and appreciate that you were able to not only admit you made the mistake but to correct it. I can say with confidence that we all very much appreciate that about you and your channel! Keep up the good work.

  • @SalamanderBattleBrother
    @SalamanderBattleBrother 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An apology is unnecessary but that shows your commitment to what you do keep it up

  • @lukesalisbury6031
    @lukesalisbury6031 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have so much passion for tanks that you will correct a minor mistake in a video and then take full blame for it. You are great Cone and please keep up the good work.

  • @dense_and_dull
    @dense_and_dull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That footage from 10:40 is from an armor museum in Massachusetts! I live 30 minutes away from there and have visited. I never really grasped the true size of the Panther and the T-34-85 before seeing them in person.

  • @Some_Guy987
    @Some_Guy987 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:55 -> I have been there and up close. The Panther is just aestheticly a masterpiece

  • @Direwolf13PS3
    @Direwolf13PS3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much respect for this video. Far too many people are unwilling to accept when they have made an error.

  • @thelightning444
    @thelightning444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your voice,it makes me sleepy and i have problems getting sleepy

  • @maotisjan
    @maotisjan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Willingness to correct your mistakes shows that you a person of integrity, a respectful trait

  • @Phony6199
    @Phony6199 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is the kind of video lazerpig should make on the t-14 armata, I think a format like this would be good.

  • @jplabs456
    @jplabs456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see what you did there, Cone.
    An ‘Enigma’ of a tank.
    Nice.

  • @DoeJohn887
    @DoeJohn887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have my respect, for making a video to correct your mistake. It can be hard for people to admit that you were wrong/incorrect, even though your mistake would be considered mild I would say, AND it was because someone else made a mistake, LEADING YOU to make a mistake.
    PS: also if would say that ConeOfArc is a little hard on himself for making this mistake.

  • @blazinhaze8339
    @blazinhaze8339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love that intro, I've said it before but it really sets the tone

  • @memazov6601
    @memazov6601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Bob Semple Tank is da best do a rereview of it

    • @AlreadyTakenTag
      @AlreadyTakenTag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Based Bob Semple

    • @AErch
      @AErch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AlreadyTakenTag Chad Bob Semple Tank

    • @AgentTasmania
      @AgentTasmania 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every joke there is about Bob (all 1) has been made ad nauseum already.

  • @evanrobinson9051
    @evanrobinson9051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @ConeOfArc The Pershing tank has a very complicated history that is somewhat similar to the panther tank with it’s production different variant.
    From talking with Director for the U.S. army armor & Calvary collection I learned that he has access to a lot of source material about its development during the second world war.

  • @kyntac187
    @kyntac187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:23. Why the hell is Midway in the middle of the Atlantic?

  • @babywesley1017
    @babywesley1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ConeofArc: "warpath is so good and accurate"
    Meanwhile me, a Warpath player who plays the game: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

  • @Arthion
    @Arthion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be cool to see maybe a smaller scale mockup being made of the actual turret intended for the Panther II to be displayed with it.
    Also no need to go so far with the apologies for making an easily understandable mistake. Majority of us are probably happy so long as you post a correction .

  • @hellavadeal
    @hellavadeal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love correction videos. Proves that the maker is honest in their attempts to tell history has accurate has possible. You can only be has good has the source material at hand at the time. And it makes you human. Much about that war is just now becoming available , so more information may change in future.

  • @simonkevnorris
    @simonkevnorris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I visited the Patton museum in 2000 as part of a trip from the UK for the F1 race at the Indy Speedway. I saw the Panther II. I'd actually gone down to Kentucky to see a museum at Fort Knox and saw the Patton museum and went there instead.

  • @Verdunveteran
    @Verdunveteran 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respect for making this video! We all make misstakes and owning up to them is important! After all, it's from our mistakes we learn. You sir, have proven yourself to be a very serious content maker. Thank you for what you do! Cheers from Sweden!

  • @tomtomed1
    @tomtomed1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Respect for admitting a mistake

  • @omalley854
    @omalley854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How about a cursed on design on the cone itself

  • @jfobel2204
    @jfobel2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Small note, final drive failures were not exclusive to the Panther.
    Almost all Panzers were suffering from final drive failures after a loss of tungsten to support strengthening to the gears. This is also why APCR rounds became more rare, and even 'brittle plates' became an issue when manganese no longer was as available.

  • @johnstrain439
    @johnstrain439 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All of your mistakes are forgiven bro

  • @spellsans9951
    @spellsans9951 ปีที่แล้ว

    " I'm only human after all. " This line reminded me a song.

  • @nakoda1610
    @nakoda1610 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont mind the mistake
    im just happy u found it
    and told us what was wrong

  • @danielaguirre2516
    @danielaguirre2516 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8:08 i believe it would of had this turret if the Panther II was fully built prototype. Cause the overall design makes sense unlike the other designs with the 8.8 KwK L/71 which seem like the loader could have challenges loading the long shells in a cramped crew compartment.

  • @1337fraggzb00N
    @1337fraggzb00N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Warpath: trailer looks like Claudia Schiffer at her peak, actual game looks like Kamala Harris on PCP.

  • @MOrab46019
    @MOrab46019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As you pointed out. You have human. Doing a follow up video like you did makes it right. Thank you for your work.

  • @MrNicoJac
    @MrNicoJac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:04 (to 4.34) Wait, hang on there....!
    What then explains how they knew the armor was inferior in February when they only fielded it in July?? 🤔
    (I'm assuming they knew the penetration of the T-34s from experience, and the armor from their own next-gen designs - but it would still be nice to have certainty)

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not sure exactly but if I had to guess they had likely already captured some of the Soviet anti tank rifles and tested them. Could also just be from their previous tanks having roughly the same sidearmor and running into issues.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConeOfArc
      Thanks! :)

    • @prd6617
      @prd6617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i assume the rational during that time, panther armor effectiveness are superior with the current tech but not with great margin.
      kind of similar on how some MBT research focusing on what will came in the future so they have been designed to have enough space/room inside the tank for future upgrades

  • @Straswa
    @Straswa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid ConeofArc, thanks for the in-depth info on the panther 2.

  • @shuqinzhou9492
    @shuqinzhou9492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the sponser part, the midway islans are in the atlantic, so accurate

  • @240pixel
    @240pixel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen the Panther II while training in FT Benning. They also have Jagtiger, Marder II, Hetzer, StuG III just to name the few.. Also M22 Locust, Sheridan and M56 Scorpion.

    • @michaelcenteno8724
      @michaelcenteno8724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop lying little kid.

    • @240pixel
      @240pixel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelcenteno8724 Visit Benning's armor museum you chairforce POG.

    • @michaelcenteno8724
      @michaelcenteno8724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@240pixel Damn kid. Why are you disrespecting the branch people serve by making fun of the name?

    • @240pixel
      @240pixel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelcenteno8724 Calling somebody who's almost 30 and is serving in a 2nd Army as infantryman a "kid" kinda asking to be made fun of.

    • @michaelcenteno8724
      @michaelcenteno8724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@240pixel Grown ass man still name calling. Grow up act like an adult instead of a kid by name calling.

  • @KaiShanIV
    @KaiShanIV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the biographies that I have read (and I am pretty sure that it is Panzer Battles by Mellenthin) states that the Panther initially came out with an 88mm gun, but was soon changed to a 75mm. I have not seen this in any other book though.

  • @bobsemple666
    @bobsemple666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Warpath is historacly accurate. Lost it at that point

  • @Simon_Nonymous
    @Simon_Nonymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No malice, no blame!

  • @markgarin6355
    @markgarin6355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to keep reality in history. APG was a wonderful place to look at armor.

  • @STHV_
    @STHV_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bloody Brilliant video!
    Don't beat yourself up though, even large companies made the same mistake with much worse outcomes!
    And im sorry if i was a little harsh on your last Panther II video

  • @johnlansing2902
    @johnlansing2902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Old saying ….. there are only two types of people who never make a mistake …. Those who do nothing at all or liars ….. no exceptions.

  • @lokidogproductions1289
    @lokidogproductions1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey you admitted the mistake and tried to fix it properly kudos to ya!

  • @arczer2519
    @arczer2519 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Problem with Panther II turret from Panzer Tracts was that drawing date (Late 43) was after MAN cancelled Panther II project in May 43 and turning it into "test mule"

  • @carracerv1522
    @carracerv1522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "This enigma of a tank." Nice one Arc.

  • @stephens7136
    @stephens7136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fully approve of you getting sponsorships to pay the bills, but if a sponsor asks you to read *their* script, ignore them and make an ad that respects your honest opinion.
    Worst case they don't pay you, best case you still get paid, and either eay you've tricked them into letting you post an honest review.

  • @AnthonyD4005
    @AnthonyD4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tigers driving in unison is a sight to see 😍

  • @hillbillyscholar8126
    @hillbillyscholar8126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw one at the Patton Museum in Fort Knox. That was long ago and I don't know if it is still on display.

    • @leops1984
      @leops1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s no longer at Fort Knox, it’s with the rest of the US armor collection in Fort Benning which isn’t open to the public yet.

    • @ardie4
      @ardie4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leops1984 currently no plans to reopen up most of that ordinance; if you want to see it you’ll have to be in the Army and have an MOS clearance of 89, 91 or 94 (pertaining to specialities in munitions, vehicle repair and radar repair) as a majority of it has been moved to Ft. Lee in southern Virginia, and is now meant to educate recruits in armored history and heritage. And as previous commenter said some of it (like the Panther) was moved to Georgia, still out of the public’s eyes.

  • @deanarupe73
    @deanarupe73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We love your videos. This is bound to happen every now and then. Your admission and accountability proves just how amazing you and your staff are. We forgive you and will always love your videos.👍keep up all with all the informative videos that we have come to love.

  • @Muld3r123
    @Muld3r123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warpath has my planefu Ta 183 so I have already been obsessed with getting it.

  • @davepritchard283
    @davepritchard283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could find the old scource! The Allies found a a Panther turret at the Krupp testing range with the 88mm L71 fitted. Wether it was designed for the 'Panther II' or not, I'm not sure. But. they were testing to try and make it fit on a Panther of some description.

  • @axis19752
    @axis19752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The picture that showed the Lonely tank with it's head down, and probably in it's Cousins town.. Sad.

  • @edwardvincentbriones5062
    @edwardvincentbriones5062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another case of mistaken identity that spread is between FV 301 and Vickers Medium Cruiser Mk 1. Watch video on Armored Archives because it may have similarities between this and the mentioned video.

  • @michaelmichael4132
    @michaelmichael4132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't beat yourself up so much, Cone. Not everybody gets what they think they got coming in the end.

  • @kohencidence4485
    @kohencidence4485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was really good! I enjoyed it. Could you maybe do the T29 American tank next? You hinted that it would need its own video in your M6 video. I think it would be a cool topic to research

  • @rcaygumicabk8072
    @rcaygumicabk8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the panther ll it's super good looking I wish they would have kept it a model

  • @jehoiakimelidoronila5450
    @jehoiakimelidoronila5450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey nice artwork on your desk just beneath your keyboard ⌨️ at 2:36 there.

  • @HennyvilleX
    @HennyvilleX ปีที่แล้ว

    02:46 "This was done using the Schmalturm turret..." Turm means turret in german, and schmal means narrow.

  • @babywesley1017
    @babywesley1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warpath accuracy:
    what they call a wirbelwind: 𝗠𝟰 𝗦𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻
    their most common tank: 𝗠𝟯 𝗦𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗿𝘁
    the bombers: 𝗕𝗙-𝟭𝟬𝟵

  • @jayfelsberg1931
    @jayfelsberg1931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video o the captured Panther and the M32 ARV

  • @xtcmedic1
    @xtcmedic1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for being honest ! Need more of that and less "alternative facts"..

  • @dwwolf4636
    @dwwolf4636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One wonders why the tiger final drive was never adopted for the Panter from the get go.
    That thing just worked....and all tanks had the habit of getting thicker as time went on ( was it married? )....

  • @2bidfilmsguy
    @2bidfilmsguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahhh world war two, when all the cigarettes were filterless and all the ammo was corrosive