Shooting .22 PELLETS Using NAIL GUN Blanks
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- It is not recommended you try this yourself. But if you still insist, please read the precautions below.
We load up some .22 firearms with Crosman .22 pellets and drive them using "powder activated tool" rounds. (calling them guns would cause the masses to soil themselves in horror) These are used to drive nails into concrete or even steel. The lead Crosman pellets are about 14 gr. and fit nicely down the barrel of a .22 rifle or pistol. Snug enough to engage the rifling. This is really a hybrid round using 3 normally incompatible components.
This is just a demonstration on how well this hinkey and potentially dangerous combination works. Although it worked VERY well for us --- your results may vary.
+++SAFETY WARNING+++
I do not want to green-light this idea to you. However, my telling you NOT to try it never stopped anyone from trying something. You need to understand the dangers if you do decide to try it. You are on your own if something bad happens. Don't come back and post how your gun blew up and you lost some fingers.
+++ I believe it is important the pellets are seated IN the barrel rather than the chamber. This is because when the round is fired, the pellet probably will not enter the barrel from the larger chamber smoothly and will likely NOT enter the barrel at all, resulting in a barrel-obstruction. If this happens in a non-blowback style gun, the gun is likely to blow up. +++
CHRONO TEST! Check out this video!
• Shooting .22 PELLETS U...
The powder charges were MUCH louder than using standard .22 ammo. If you have a chrono and wish to attempt this, I think we'd all like to know how fast these are capable of going. I'll put a link to your video in this one.
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$35 for 500? Still cheaper than anything I've found lately!
You'd think the prices would have come back down by now!
Haha yeah
if only you had any idea of how bad it'd get
@@taofledermaus ahahah!
@@taofledermaus I am from the future, They never came back down
You guys have just developed armor-piercing pellets, you guys rock 😂🤣😂
@@MrSniperdude01 just use a gamo red fire. They're accurate and hit like a truck.
@@MrSniperdude01 I meant for the barrel load. For a cylinder you can use penetrators or round tip diablos. The h&n Hornet will also devastate small game. Honestly though you shouldn't have an problems using normal crossman hollow points. They're round tipped and with peel a raccoons lid back. Both the red fires and the crossman hollows are my go to hunting pellets and I only hunt small game with a .177 pump.
@@MrSniperdude01 I've killed a lot of small game with these, I hit a rabbit at about 600fps with a .177 redfire in the head straight on and found the pellet in its rib cage. You can drop a bird easy with the walmart stuff and an accurate rifle.
@@MrSniperdude01 Your problem could be that you're using a .22 I've found spring/piston .22 rifles to be a little inaccurate. A normal pcp pump .177 is my usual go to for hunting, virtually no recoil, they don't chew up scopes, and the .177 flies faster. I've found .177s to expand better most of the time.
@@MrSniperdude01 have some that are made with bb in them. They suck but the red tipped gamo ones have went through a 2x4
Back in the 1960s you could buy a .22 smoothbore rifle which fired what was called 'dust shot' for use in orchards apparently, didn't take long for us to buy blanks along with a .22 pellet and see what happens. Quite a powerful result.
I notice your post name is aberbeeg, in Sis Balls we did the same in the 1960s same rifle, I thought we used ordinary blanks which as you said produced powerful results. Naughty boys back then!
Funny. I don't remember .22 pellets being available in the 1960s. CCIs were a penny a pop, though.
@@timhofstetter5654 Bought tens of thousands back then, Marksmen were my preferred .22 pellet.
Australia we call that round Rat shot or Bird shot.
Even though the pellet is a bit undersized compared to the bullet, the pellet skirts are very thin and the gas will push them into the rifling groves to engage the rifling well. There are .38 special wadcutter bullets that have a hollow cavity at the real used in bullyeye competition that are designed this way.
I had the skirts tear off in rifling but works good. Use heavier pellets.
How about a .22 revolver? Take the cylinder out and load it up. Put it back and fire like a old cap and bail pistol.
David Henderson you think the pellet would make it through the cylinder gap?
@@ViktoriousDead I do not see why the cylinder gap should matter unless the revolver is so warn out the gap is a 1/4 wide.
David Henderson just wondering about the fit of the pellet in the cylinder, if it wasn't tight enough the pellet could shear off going into the barrel. Due to the pellet not flying straight
@@ViktoriousDead Well if that was the case it would also happen when being used in the 22 rifle. Like I said the gap would have to be huge for any problem I am thinking. A little checking on line shows the gap to be from .005 to .008. Anything more than that the weapon is not safe to fire.
David Henderson I don't understand how that could be the case in the rifle seeing as they muzzleloaded it? You were referring to loading the cylinder with the blank cartridge and pellets right? That's where I was thinking their could be a problem seeing as the .22 pellet doesn't have the same dimensions as a .22 LR or other .22 caliber.
Cool. Don't go by the color to differentiate between power levels though unless you always stay with the same brand. What I found in the past is that each company used their own color codes.
I never thought of it before but these blanks must be contributing to .22 ammo shortages.
In Poland firearms are hard to get. Poachers sometimes modify airguns to shoot .22 long rifle or something like this. When police busts someone with such rifle or some rusty WWII relics, they claim that they "uncovered an illegal arsenal of firearms".
1 gun in 100 people in Poland according to the statistics. That is probably as low as it can get.
Don't you just love half-assed hype?
Sound like Polish and Norwegian police have lot in common...
Poland: woke on immigration, not so much on firearms.
@@Tyrfingr 1 in 100? Dang, I have 7 myself
If it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid!
Yep.
Or its stupid and you got incredibly lucky.
+Hans Solo Zimmler You are right.
Apply that to 9/11
Maxim 43: "If it's stupid and it works, it's still stupid and you're lucky."
You should chrono the pellets. It would Be interesting to see what the true FPS is.
1600 in 22 over 2000 in 177 😀 depending on the blanks .. black powder blanks arent as affective as smokeless nitro blanks . its the speed of gas expansion , black powder is a lot slower burning so expands slower ...the pellet has left the barrel before full expansion of the gasses
@@tomhughes5123 u are backwards on that. Black powder is faster burning than smokeless. And those pellets are no where near 2500 fps. In .22lr cci hv is 1400fps.
@@pranc236 it depends on the shape and size, but generally smokeless powder burns faster than black powder. There's a reason we could not get 556 level velocities out of black powder
you know those air rifle pellets have a cone on the back of them like the conical bullets in the civil war. when the powder goes off it expanse the cone into the rifling's which will make them accurate. its not going to hurt the gun. good survival ammo.
The civil war conicals were a combination of bullet weight, shape, powder type, and burn rate all working in harmony. The fast powder in the hilti shells overpowers the ultra light weight pellets and does affect accuracy. Not only that but pellet speed can actually drop off with the more powerful yellow blanks! This was proven by +RyeOnHam when he did some chronograph tests. Better to use the lightest blanks color coded brown.
Will Yam smokeless powder burns slower than black power that is a fact. slower burning powders burn all the way down the barrel and makes for higher velocity. that why that pellet is being destroyed. the pellet is just like the conical bullet of the civil war the cone will expand and engage the rifling it just needs a smaller powder charge.
mad max the idea is to get close to the same burn time as it takes to get the projectile out the barrel, somebody correct me if I'm wrong but that is the direct difference between big bore and small bore powders is burn time but compound is irrelevant. black powder is granulated after the ball mill processes to controll burn time.
madmax...its called a miniéball....(miné or min-aye-ball) named after Claude minié....but gets called mini ball.
You're correct about the burn rates of different powders, but what is the chamber pressure? Excess chamber pressure can damage the firearm and injure the shooter. The load data found in reloading manuals will always tell you the chamber pressure for a particular load based on the type and amount of powder and type of bullet and weight. This seems like guess work since you don't know the powder charge in a Hilti .22 shell and there isn't much info on .22 rim fire rounds since they can't be hand loaded. It seems to me if its outperforming factory ammo, it must have a much higher chamber pressure and may be approaching the danger zone.
looks like freakin 5.56 holes in thin steel. amazing! those rounds are haulin
Marilyn Gist 5.56 is extremely close in diameter to .22 so at these velocities it makes sense that they look the same
17Industries they are actually the same at .223 inch
@@gaydolfhitqueer835 no,they aren't
jut found a good apocalypse substitute ammo :D
I did this same experiment 3 years ago, Shot a 1.5" diameter aspen tree at 15 yards and blew it down... good news... Now for the bad news.. the pellets are traveling so fast down the barrel they solder the rifling leaving lead deposits in the rifling. Each time you shoot more of the rifling get soldered off into the rifling, causing super increased pressure, Eventually to the point where your gun barrel will explode, not a very smart idea....
If you had a solid copper pellet.... not a copper coated one... you wouldn't get the soldering effect of the lead pellet on the rifling inside your barrel.
Never took it to that step... for I destroyed my 22 repeater from over pressure, it permanently knocked out my bullet head space and ruined my gun completely.
When I looked at the rifling in the barrel... there was no twist to be seen, it was completely soldered out from the lead pellets..
Do not do this with lead pellets you could seriously hurt or kill someone or your self !!!!
KEVINNOAD1 lol this comment prob fell on deaf ears.
KEVINNOAD1 pp
Or clean the barrel after each shot? ...which makes it even more tedious.
Copper does the same thing. Very common in gun barrels. Lead requires lubricant to slow down fouling.
I kind of figured that would happen...
This is really cool, I have never seen anyone try this before, and it obviously works great. You are achieving extremely high velocities with those lightweight pellets. Very cool! Some guys with break-barrel, spring piston pellet rifles are adding a drop of oil in the pellet skirt, then firing it from the air rifle.. The air compression ignites the oil, creating a high velocity shot. It's pretty cool also, if you like messing around with air rifles you might give it a try. They call it dieseling.
+Trevor Jameson Dieseling is really bad for the gun though. If you really want hyper velocity pellets, just make your own rifle that will do so. Barrels can actually be made from paper. Yes, that's right, paper. You have to make the barrel pretty thick though, and watch the pressures.
+Trevor Jameson Gotta try this...how to seal the oil in the pellet ?
I dieseled hundreds of pellets from my old Gamo (back in the 1970s). It would be interesting to experiment with different fuels. I had sewing machine oil so I used that. No malfunctions but anti-fun parents confiscated it.
I've done it, but the results are not very consistent, unless you have a way to ensure that you use the exact same amount of oil each time. And it's murder on barrel seals, they don't last long.
I've got another stupid idea, boring out the back end of a .177 air rifle barrel so that a cartridge will fit in it, modifying the compressor so it punches the primer (instead of trying to blow air through it), loading the modified bb gun with slugs and giving that a go. Those slugs ought to go like the clappers.
they're called power loads for a reason, they release more energy than a firearm round because they're designed to drive metal into concrete as opposed to soft flesh, but because there's more energy released than your weapon is designed to handle, you run an extreme risk of destroying the weapon and the hand holding it
it would probably be best to just do this with either break actions or bolt actions, a lot of times the barrels on semi-autos are thinner
The shells can't hold enough powder to blow a normal barrel. i'd not fire one from a sleeved barrel though. if it's too thin it might go pop
@@wulfarrow2849 Well Yes and No, I have tested some hot loads in .22LR's the semi-auto has a thinner barrel, BUT also has a place for the gases to escape....On a bolt gun it has NOWHERE to go!
That's 7 cents a round for something that loads slow and works better for varmints. I wouldn't hunt with it because the pellet would end up contaminating meat when it disintegrates. This would be great for that rifle with feeding issues, but shoots straight.
briansmobile1
I don't think it would do squat to the meat. It punched a clean round hole through steel plate. I don't think a rabbit would fair as well.
Dawg meat and metal are 2 different things
Been doing this since 2013! 410 to 22 adapters for my Judge. Bit of candle wax
holds the pellets to the nail gun blanks (I use browns tho) Accuracy satisfactory
even with smooth bore adapters. After all ITS -NOT- A TARGET PISTOL!!!! LOL
Good enuf and cheap enuf for shooting rats in the corn crib. It sure beats trying
to wield a long barrel in tighter spaces and it doesn't blow holes in the siding as
a 'legitimate' 22 would do. Works at greater distance than the birdshot rounds!
Gotta make sure you killem tho, wounded rats can be dangerous!! ROFL
you have a great channel. it's always cool to watch what you come up with. i think the pellet videos are awesome. I'm thinking of trying it with my 10/22. the people that are negative can go and make their own channel. nobody made them watch yours. keep up the good work. thanks for sharing this with us.
+blackops84321 thanks!!
Try level 5, if I remember, they were coded brown. Harden cement, is the hardest to drive a nail in.
This is seriously interesting! Who would have though that the 'improvised' round would work better than the factory round?
***** Perhaps a twin magazine system would provide the necessary result? A shell up back & the projectile up front? I would a love it if a gunsmith tried this idea out!
Quincy Owyang It was more of a 'can it be made?' rather than to put into production.
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never heard of a .22 hornet have ya? its a flared round with light grains and shitloads of power.
why not just breakbarrel?
I tried doing this about a year ago with my cheap bolt action .22 rifle. But I loaded the pellet into the breach and then put the blank behind it. It hit the target fine but left behind a ring of lead that prevented me from shooting again until I removed the lead with a sturdy wire bore cleaner. So in short I only got one round to fire off. I might try it again in the future.
+Josh Bonds Try a copper pellet next time.
You can either use a lower-power blank, such as #2, or a bit heaver projectile....
Using blanks to fire projectile, does sometimes make the shot more powerful than the regular cartridge. Thats because the blanks have more powder so they have enough power to drive a nail in to concrete.
Jeff, I'd love to see you guys mess around with powder-propelled pellets some more. Could you make up rounds that would feed? Maybe based on .22lr cases?
It should work in a revolver maybe?
@@roosterqmoney That seems like a sensible suggestion, yeah! In as far as 'sensible' applies here...
Hmmm, need to check those out on various armor. Those are very clean holes through that locker and those little boogers are moving pretty damn fast. They also have the pointed target pellets that would be interesting to see. Neat stuff guys!
Has someone chronographed this?!
This is basically a hot load.
But hornady doesn't give a listing for powder grain weight for .22 because you can't reload rim fire.
I wonder how fast it'll wear out internals.
Southern ingenuity at it's finest!
Interesting set-up. Seeing this reminds me of what my kid brother and his buddy did when they were in grade school. Our dad was a carpenter and had a box full of these blanks in the garage. My brother and his pal snuck some of the blanks out into the field, put one in a vise and hit it with a hammer! The blank shell took off and went through the pal's upper arm, missing the bone. He calmly walked back to my parents' house and told my dad, "excuse me sir, I shot myself." My dad was shocked and then angry after he took the kid to the hospital. We kids had all been told for years to never touch those blanks. That kid was lucky it didn't go into his face.
Did the same on a job site, hit one with a piece of rebarb a piece whent through my finger and another into my thumb and another stuck in my forehead! I was bleeding all over, never tried it again! I believe the crimped edges of the blank is what came off!
I detonated a few 22 LR Primers with a hammer. It ruptures the brass and was remarkably loud. It probably did damage my hearing.
savage friend
Two friends and I found a 22 round and, of course, decided to put it on a curb and pound it with a brick. It went off and shot my friend in the foot and he took off like Usain Bolt! It took us 5 min to catch him! mom took us to the hospital. He was ok but the rest of had the belt to deal with when We got home! That was 50 years ago and I remember like yesterday.
I knew a guy with a glass eye, he said he would put the shell at the end of a bb gun and shoot it up. But he didnt do it anymore when a peice came back and damaged his eye, and curved around the skull bone inbetween the brain.
Velocity beats armor more than mass
... Both the velocity and the mass are involved in the kinetic energy of the round fired... KE = (1/2)*mass*velocity
+saverlater123 *velocity^2
yes, that is true, but velocity has a greater effect
+saverlater123 momentum is mass*velocity kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2 therefore in energy velocity has much more influence.
+Manilla Ice the word was impact
We were doing this decades ago (70's) when I was a teen and early 20's. We used my old Marlin bolt action and a friends old Remington 511 bolt gun, for the bolt actions work so much easier. Just open the bolt, insert the pellet and load the blank behind the pellet. Back then, I had several tins of the very small starter pistol blanks, and even those gave enough speed and accuracy to kill birds, squirrels and close range rabbits. The nail gun blanks would give a whole new level of speed and power, and as you learned, the power of those blanks could deliver near 22 mag speed and power.
John Willis
10 days ago (edited)
I just ran across this video. I done this for years with an old Stevens Favorite single shot falling block. I put the pellet in the chamber followed by the power load. It is deadly on Squirrels and Rabbits out to about 100 yards and very, very accurate. I get all the nail gun loads I want for free, just have to buy the pellets. I cronied them at 2900 to 3000 fps from this rifle.
Such a clean entry those pellets make, I'd expect them to be squished or splattered.
JVONROCK Actually them squashing is likely why they made such a clean entry, all the kinetic energy was spread evenly due to it being a soft but heavy metal.
In Mexico used this system in national rifles= Mendoza or Cabañas, but in .177 cal Mendoza in the model M-990, Cabañas in the model: Leyre(cabañas is discontinued and is very hard to find these rifles in some places of Mexico)
I finally got to test this myself, after I purchased a Chiappa little badger. I only tried the greens. Some shot fine, others the pellet would break apart in the barrel and the top would shoot out, but the skirt would stay in the barrel. First one that broke apart, I only found out after the next blank wouldn't seat fully. So I removed the blank and pellet, looked down the barrel and could see daylight, but upon looking more closely, realized there was something still in the barrel. I had to use a cleaning rod to drive out the remaining skirt of the last pellet.
I'll try it again sometime using Browns, but it most likely requires a heaver pellet, maybe one that doesn't have that 'hourglass' shape would be necessary for this to work reliably.
This idea is a moot point at this time anyway, as nail gun blanks are currently .10 a round in the Chicagoland area, and .22 LR's are back in stock everywhere and as cheap as .06 a round.
Something I would like to try though, will be to seat a FMJ center fire .22 bullet into the chamber and use a nail gun blank as the power. But I won't use the Chiappa for that. Most likely it'll be a 12ga to .22 adaptor.
Make a small dowel and push the pellet far enough out of the forcing cone and into the barrel so that the pellet is actually engaged with the rifling.....
This achieves 2 things...
the skirt is already engaged with the rifling when the hot gases push it outwards to seal the skirt to take advantage of all the gases to propel the pellet up the barrel;
and there is a volume created behind the pellet which allows expansion of the gases without as much heat frying the lead and blowing molten lead all over the inside of the bore....
Pretty amazing vid,
Thanks!
I tried this in a single shot .22lr and the case blew back so far into the firing pin hole it destroyed not only the firing pin, but the spring as well. Needless to say, the blank's case was toast!
Thats good to know for an emergency shtf situation if you had no .22 ammo. Damm those pellets preform well.
Assasins special, nothing left for forensics
Honestly. It's been done for years. I'm 32 and I figured this out when I was 12. Try putting a small drop of super glue on the pellet and put it on the tip of the cartridge. It's alot faster and easier and better consistent results. Further more... use a bolt action. Oh ya you were off on your fps estimate. We've clocked them at 2650 to 2700 when you try that method.
I'm in construction and I've used hundreds of those yellow shots to nail wood to concrete. The box describes them as "Low Velocity", so I was quite surprised at how much they compared to a similar "real" bullet.
imagine using the red caps, yellow and green are the weak ones. i own a ramset, and the red ones are most often too much. i only use the red when attaching wood to structural steel.
they need to try the red ones!
+Mike Truglia I imagine it would far over power the pellet and it would rip apart mid air, or not stabilize in any regard. Just a guess though.
The #4 rips the pellet skirt off in the barrel, and you gotta get it out before you can load another pellet...works OK with the #2 .
@@miketruglia4825 pellet won't stand the strain.
@@The_PotionSeller powdered. it's to much pressure for soft lead.
Copper pellets! At those velocities it should penetrate like crazy!
+James Garvey Gamo sells copper plated pellets, they are even faster than normal pellets, imagine if they were shot with blanks ! :))
+qpae123 that's exactly what I was thinking.
+James Garvey you can sand em down then coat em with tungsten by -electrolysis- galvanisation for even more fun. rip barrel...
+Klaus Von Liechtenstein hmmmm.. Solid tungsten would be interesting too!
James Garvey solid tungsten penetrator is my wet dream... wait.. that sounded so gay xd
now srsly, since tungsten is tougher than steel its a bitch to machine out. i doubt it is even possible, but you could coat anything metal in tungsten in home conditions by galvanisation. now that's homegrown ammo, literally heheh
In my opinion...
Back in 1975 I bored out a .177 pellet rifle to accept the .22 Blank, like you use in the video. It was of course a one shot rifle, but it had great power and accuracy. Needless to say that I was happily surprised when they started making 17 rim fire rifles a few years ago.
Speed kills. What if you lightly epoxy the pellets to the blanks? Worth a shot. You have finally answered the question everyone thinks when they see or use these for work. Thanks for sharing.
I have a falling block single shot .22 that could be used this way. Be interesting to see what the MV was on those shots: it must have been way above normal. If the skirts come off, I'd try air rifle slugs.
The red 22 caliber pellets work beautifully with the yellow blanks in my racer revolver!
I have been wanting to/thinking about doing this, since I was like 10 years old! I knew it would work!
I wonder if the .22 pellets would stay in a revolver cylinder?
i would think so given the gas skirt on a pellet , probably best to rear load though , you would just have to look at your overall length for the 2 and make sure that clears the cylinder
If not, you could always glue them to the charges to make rounds.
Take a small punch and crimp the skirt of the pellet out slightly; when you push it into the chamber, it will stick in there, kind of like it would in an air rifle.
Hmm...too bad there isn't a rifle specially made to do this; it'd be a great recreational shooter!
+Alonzo Branson Either .22 break action rifle or revolver should work well. With some paper and glue you can even make a cartridge)
+КоммуНЯКА Кавайная Yep.. But the #4 charge, and .22 bullets for the mini-revolvers were too much for my Buckmark.... gotta get it fixed.
+koolkitty8989 I was thinking the exact same thing, loading the pellets with a small Allen wrench in a single shot breech bolt action.
a few freinds of mine made pipe guns that do this. you can also use these (along with some very good steel tube for your bolts) in modified pneumatic crossbows.
Yes... perhaps starting with a .22 center-fire barrel, or a .22 insert in a break-barrel shotgun, to have sufficient steel around the chamber to withstand the pressures generated.... I agree that using a standard .22 rim-fire could be problems, which is why I suggest the most conservative approach...
Not trying to be smug , but I knew chippies that buggered around with these loads in the 70's. Never gets old though. Great research as usual.😂😎🇦🇺👌 as a kid we would tape them to cross bow bolts with a little peice of plastic tubing.
Nailed it!
In Washington State, "powder activated tool"s are legally firearms now, if you hand one to a friend to use, you have to have a background check done, same when he hands it back to you. How's that for insanity?
yeah when you have people that do this, it actually does become a firearm.
been doing this for a few years now due to the ammo shortages.. in an old single shot 22 rifle I had...works amazingly well on mid close to mid range small game. ( under 50 yards)
How accurate?
@@vonmajor pretty decent actually. upgraded recently to a 22cal blank powered archery rifle... works REALLY well.. but none of the game wardens can give me a clear answer on what season its legal in lol
@@Jonathan32177 Thanks for the quick response. My curiosity was weather the relatively soft on world effectively engage the rifling, stabilize well and not foul the barrel in a few shots. That was impressive the clean holes through the plate stainless steel.
This seems like a remarkably dangerous thing to do. Can you try shooting sticks of dynamite out of a 12 gauge?
John Smith The keyword is "seems"
KawasakiRider - I'm not comparing anything... I was joking. So, that's that cleared up.
***** I'd counter that the key word is 'dynamite'. I guess it depends which part of the comment we're focusing on. You have to admit that blasting a stick of dynamite at a C4 target would be fucking awesome.
John Smith I knew you were joking about the dynamite/shotgun. I wish I had some dynamite and a shotgun I didn't want though. lol
TNT maybe, MAYBE
Dynamite, hell no
The pellet is also much lighter by about half the weight of the 36gr mini mag, that's probly why it has a higher velocity. Pull the powder out of a mini mag and those blanks and weigh it to find out the charge so we can know for sure.
What the hell is a ditchbag watermelon? That thing's green on the inside and had almond sized seeds...
Those are "Citron Melons", they are similar to watermelons but are an ancestral breed of the plant. I googled it thinking they were GMOs, but they are the opposite.
NinjaDeathBlade A pest in California, and here in Australia. Most common name is Paddy Melon. They're toxic.
NinjaDeathBlade
I don't know what part of the world that you grew up in, but here in California around the Central Valley, those (used to) grow wild on the sides of the road. We called them "Cow Melons" .. of course "back in the day" before the internet, we used to collect them together -especially the over-ripe or soft ones- to lob at each other in great big melon wars.. though, if memory serves, we also blew a fair share of them into smithereens via firecrackers
Ditch bank melons. Stink when they rot
***** what doesn't stink when it rots? :P
I wonder if this would be easier with a break-action rifle. There you'd be able to put the pellet in first, then the .22 cartridge after, pushing the pellet down the barrel in the process.
Did this 35 years ago in my Rugar 10-22. Pretty much the same results, to much trouble though. I used Beeman Silver Jets for the pellets as the stamp formed Crossmans disintegrated.
Hold ma beer and watch 'dis!
I tried this when I was a kid with my bolt action .22LR and a few BBs. It worked but the shells would get lodged in the barrel when the ends expanded.
Your watermelons might be "Buffalo Gourd" Cucurbita foetidissima
If you want power that penetrates the book. Put the explosive dabs of a cap gun reel into the back of a hollow point pellet then load the pellet backwards so the charge is facing out the barrel. You won't believe the amount of depth you will get on impact.
The shortage is in people's heads. Nothings changed. The government us NOT buying up the .22s. They are producing the same amount.
But when u tell someone there is a shortage they will buy as many boxes as the can as soon as they can.
Just shows you're not getting much bang for your buck when buying actual ammunition.
Judging from the sound of it I'd say the nail gun charges with the pellet are considerably higher pressure. I wouldn't hesitate to use them in a bolt action but I'm not sure I'd use a semi auto 22 for this.
My experiment, a .22 slam-fire using Marlin 60 barrel ($21.45 EBay) inserted inside a 3/4" PVC pipe, a 1" PVC pipe housing with 3/4" X 12" black steel pipe inside the 1" PVC as hammer/firing-pin, firing 4 'Premier Brand' 12 gram pellets loaded in the barrel at the same time with level 4 cartridge, projectiles went through a piece of 2 X 4 with a small .22 entry and a big nasty exit on the backside.
or just spend 80-150$ and buy a real 22
Not everyone live in murica.
+ctpOMG gain your freedom then idk what to tell you pellet guns only do so much unless you want to spend $1000+$. the right to protect yourself is essential
Drew Martin "gain your freedom" keep you'r patriotic tlk to yourself, and no shit pellet guns only do so mcuh unless you spend so much money, i could say the same for real guns, and a .22 isn't going to protect you so much, and where i live there's no need for protection.
Mr. Martin, have you ever done something just for fun, may be a rocket stove despite you have a real stove in your kitchen, or may be making a slingshot? You should check out Jorg Sprave Channel the German with real guns, greatest slingshots on YT.
I used nail gun blanks in my B.S.A Meteor Rifle .22, in 1981, loads of fun,, But don't shoot your Brother with it,
really ,how did the cartige to go of .theres no bolt or anything ?
Ucan Far-cough I'm curious, did it damage the weapon in any way if it's not designed to have that kind of charge
With no copper jacketing on those pellets, you'll get lead fouling in the barrel if you shoot a lot of those. As long as you clean for that kind of fouling, it's fine, but something to think about.
pretty cool man. screw the haters
+steve rohaley thanks Steve!
steve rohaley nail em
you should try this again with Prometheus .22 steel sabot pointed airgun hunting pellet/dart. they hit way harder, have excellent penitration and add 100 fps to standard airgun. they are a steel pointed pellet that looks very much like an ear piercing stud with a plastic discarding acceleration sabot that pops off of the round upon impact.
Dang, I thought the book would've stopped the bullet.
That's what HE said...
lol glad someone got that.
Has anyone chronographed these to confirm velocity?
I saw another video...the chrono said 4, 750.... !!!!
Daaaaammmmn!
I did this 20+ years ago & let me tell you the .177 pellet is driven close to the speed of sound & hits way harder than you'd ever expect.. This is deadly dangerous.. BEWARE..
BTW I used a Ruger MKII 6 7/8" Target
WTF the pellet is BETTER than the real bullet??
Not really. The pellets are faster, but much lighter, so there isn't a lot of energy.
***** Mmm. Actually it depends on the distance. For longer distance a pellet would retain much less energy since its mass is lesser and so its inertia. For shorter distances pellet would be better since energy depends on the square of the speed. E=0.5*m*(v^2). If you can depleet all of that energy into the target.
.22LR's lose a lot of energy too the further they go, actually all bullets do.
***** Yes. The higher the mass of the bullet the better it can retain its energy whiñle travelling (also aerodynamics take a huge part here).
The pellet looses its energy faster since its lighter, but it also has more energy since it is travelling faster.
***** actually, if the pellet is actually going 2800 fps (or anywhere near it), it has more than twice the muzzle energy of the .22 despite being lighter.
It’s easy to glue the pellet to the tip of the charge and it works great out of a bolt action rifle.
*sees 2800+ fps, thinks tao finally got a high speed camera with the money he makes from this channel, * no high speed?
Thepieintheface I have three HS cameras.
***** can you do slower frame rates, pretty please
***** no homo.
The trick of accuracy is using a breach loader .22 and head spacing the pellet. Be warned: after prolonged shooting these it will terminate a firing pin on most guns.
I've been shooting pellets out of my Remington 580 (single shot) with these nail gun loads (yellow & green) for over 40 years with no problems. These work best in bolt actions.
does it leave any lead in the rifling? which would require a stiff brush cleanout !
Same effect like APCR granade in tanks. My body armor plates can stop an AK47 with FMJ bullets from point blank range or even a .30-06 AP round but .223 Remington from close range can penetrate them.
Correction, for 35 dollars you get 500 rounds that you have to load like a musket. XP
at 2800 fps
DarkSideSixOfficial 35 for 500 at 1100fps is the norm
Muzzle loading 22 possibly the most badass drone Hunter out there
TAOFLEDERMAUS id totally do this with a .22 revolver
I’ve done this with a 22 revolver. Preload pellets in front of cylinder, then fully charge the (in my case, 8 rd) cylinder with the nail gun charges. Very LOUD! But also extremely dirty rounds to shoot.
Load up 6 of each into a .22 revolver pistol :(
See if it will shoot all 6 without blowing up or something, lol
You try it first and let me know if it worked. That is if you have any fingers left to type with.
Oh calm down people it's literally a 22 blank round Hasn't anyone ever seen a military 5.56 blank round? Put some powder behind a projectile and you have your basic concept of a firearm. Just cuz the ammo factory didn't make it doesn't mean your going to lose limbs lol
***** Speaking of dangerous revolver tests, how about turning an old single action revolver, "full auto?" I've heard old stories about it, but I've never ssen it before. How it's supposed to work is that on old SA revolvers where the firing pin is part of the hammer there's a small hole in the back of the frame for the pin to reach the primer. If that hole is made large enough for the primer to pass through then it will launch out the back of the cartridge forcing the hammer back rearward to cycle the gun. I don't know if it's possible, but it sure seems plausible. whudya think?
You should try Gamo Rocket pellets. They are topped with a .177 bb.
eu uso esse metodo a uns 02 anos , e graças a DEUS NUNCA TIVE PROBLEMAS , AINDA FIZ MAIS , MOLDEI PROJETIS EM FORMA DE BARRO AI ABRI AS CAPSULAS RETIREI UM POUCO DA POLVORA E ENCAIXEI OS PROJETIS NAS CAPSULAS , OU SEJA FIZ UMA BALA CALIBRE 22 .
I did this with my marlin 22 when I was like 11 years old because my mom would hide the ammo when I was home alone. (Used to think of it like I was loading a musket or somthing lol..)
You should try heavier pellets like the 25.39 Grain JSB Match Diabolo Exact Jumbo Monster .22 Cal. When it comes to accuracy, heavier pellets tend to penetrate air/wind resistance better.
I just ran across this video. I done this for years with an old Stevens Favorite single shot falling block. I put the pellet in the chamber followed by the power load. It is deadly on Squirrels and Rabbits out to about 100 yards and very, very accurate. I get all the nail gun loads I want for free, just have to buy the pellets. I cronied them at 2900 to 3000 fps from this rifle.
We used to shoot sharpened spikes through a Benjamin 22.
just tried this with full size 22 lr blanks and almost took my eye out, be very careful what type of blanks you are using.
What if you muzzle loaded a .22 caliber steel bearing instead? Curious about what kind of penetration you could get.
Good ol Ramset caps. the pellet apparently seems to behave like a hole punch on the sheet metal,… just without the die dolly die part
I made a pellet mould years ago out of two pieces of aluminum bolted together and use a 4.5 millimeter drill bit down the seam, just like the old time bullet moulds.it worked, I was using a daisy pump with a 3-9x power scope, and you could actually see the pellet spin in a two foot circular pattern too the target,It wasn't accurate by no means, my friend shot a few of them and saw it he was like "Damn, what kind of pellet was that" I said "shhhh, it's a mystery pellet, because it doesn't know where in the heck it's going. But that was impressive how that pellet you guys shot, just burned a hole through a piece of 1/8 inch thick piece of stainless steel,and the damage that it did too the melon was impressive. I wonder what kind of powder they use in the nail gun rounds and what kind of lead composition is used in this pellets, that's like anti material rounds, I wonder if some of the powder was jammed into the cone of the pellet and upon impact became super ignited and melted that steel, Because that was a perfect hole, with no indentation.you guys just stumbled onto something and I'm gonna be up all night studying pellet compositions.anyway good job
John Willis
10 days ago (edited)
I just ran across this video.
I done this for years with an old Stevens Favorite single shot falling block.
I put the pellet in the chamber followed by the power load.
It is deadly on Squirrels and Rabbits out to about 100 yards and very, very accurate.
I get all the nail gun loads I want for free, just have to buy the pellets.
I cronied them at 2900 to 3000 fps from this rifle.
In a bolt action rifle, I would try putting the pellet into the chamber from the breech end and then seating the blank behind it. That would be quicker to load and there would be no space between blank and pellet, which might cause an over pressure situation.
Now THIS is science
You can shoot something wicked fast but it doesn't mean it will fly straight. Pellets are light and hollow not the way to make something fly straight.
Thanks for the idea! Did you know that a small pistol primer fits perfectly into a 22. case? Break off a 22 head, dump just a little powder out (to be safer lol) and press in small primer. it becomes a bullet. I wouldn't recommend this actually, but it DID work though my SP 101 short barrel. I didn't measure but primer must be exactly 22 cal in size because it came out full power (right through spray paint can) no excess windage
First, You are CRAZY! Second, I enjoyed watching this. Super light projectile with a super hot powder charge. This might make an interesting varmint load.
Thumbs up.
You can get even higher velocity by packing Vaseline in the back cavity of the pellets. When fired this give a boost in energy by a diesel effect. After each shot only tiny bits of pellet remains, no trace of any rifling.
Can you let me/us know how you seat the pellet, How tight and close,just all the info you can. as this is a very interesting "last ditch: idea to be able to use.
Thank you for doing these tests.
FYI
*Really* dangerous the other way round.
Modified pellet rifles *Do NOT hold up*
I machined a purpose built hybrid.
(Just easier than trying to fit odd parts to work)
Bolt action for the blank and break barrel for the pellet.
It works.....if I had nothing else better.
Just an experiment to see if it was a possible SHTF option for a fictional book someone else was writing.
Oxy-Acetlene fired by diesel principles from a pellet rifle is entertaining.(20" of muzzle flash) But worthlessly impractical and no where close to accurate ever.
You've saved me quite a lot of time on odd ideas. 😆 👍
Thanks a bunch!
I am totally buying some Crosman Premiers and some ramset blanks .... I think yellow might be a bit overkill, you might try green, then brown, work downward in power until you have a sweet spot of power and quietness, for pests and attacking ditch melons of course.
Can you all do a follow-up video and chrono the velocity?
As always, great videos!
The pellets with a BB in it works best for penetration. You can adjust the power by using different color blank.
Now I know how time consuming it was for civil war era soldiers to load their. 22 Springfield muskets with pellets and nail gun blanks! Back then, they didn't have a Home Depot or Lowes next door to the Bull Run, Fredericksburg or Chickamauga battlefields. They only had Ace and True Value hardware stores from where to procure more blanks!