I am so thankful to your video which is probably the only one reminds people to check on the flywheel before putting in a new starter gear. After watching your video, I decided to take it apart to inspect the flywheel first before I order the new gear. To my surprise, both the starter gear and flywheel gear are in very good to almost new condition (my Toro is almost 10 years old). The reason for not starting was due to a missing lock nut. There are two 1-1/4" bolts that hold the flywheel to the engine. The two nylon locking nuts are recessed into a hole on the flywheel. One bolt was loose with about 1/4" sticking out with locking nut still attached. The other bolt was completely loose without locking nut found in the recessed hole. There is no way the bolt could totally shake off the locking nut from its full thread (the locking nuts are really tight). Even if it does, due to the recessed hole design, there is no way the nut would be missing. My friend and I concluded that it was a factory assembly fault. Anyways, it was a great feeling of success to fix it at no cost. Thank you so much for the video instructions.
Great video. Really appreciate it. I'd installed the new gear and it didn't work. Your video showed me to take a second look in the package where I found the rubber washer. It's important!
Hey Brant. Thanks so much for the video! You’re the only one who shows up close and detailed how to take off and replace the starter gear itself. Appreciate it. Subbed your channel and looking forward to looking back in the archives and new videos. I also have a Stihl 2 stroke hedge trimmer that runs only on half choke if you can get it started. New video idea? Keep up the good work and thanks again.
Glad you enjoyed the video. As for your hedge trimmer, I would start by adjusting your low speed screw counter-clockwise a quarter turn. If it's only running on choke, it's not getting enough fuel. You can possibly fix this by adjusting the low speed fuel screw out a bit. If this doesn't help then you might need to take the carb off and clean it. The pumping diaphragm usually gets brittle. Maybe this video will help. th-cam.com/video/8RjTEjQG-14/w-d-xo.html
Just what I was looking for. My starter drive will not engage. I got rebuilding kit and now I see how to rebuild starter. It takes awhile to get starter motor out and you want to get it right before you reinstall motor and put machine back together. Thanks.
Thanks for the video... really well done. Question : I have this machine and my starter is making the exact same noise... also, my pull cord has not tension as if it is just pulling out free without turning what it should be... in other words its like pulling air. It does retract but when being pulled....nothing is turning in the engine. So... does this sound like a flywheel issue? I am wondering if it pays to deal with this as it might not be cost effective. Can I fix the pull cord and just not use the electric start ? Any thoughts on this? Also, appx what is the cost you have found for the flywheel if that is my issue? Thank you again.
This sounds like 2 different issues. The pull cord issue sounds like the pawls in the starter recoil assembly are not flying out when you pull the cord. These pawls catch on the inside of a starter cup which is attached to the end of the crankshaft. The electric start is usually the teeth on the starter gear and/or the teeth on the flywheel. The flywheel is cost prohibitive in my opinion unless you can find a good used one. Cheers
Wow. I was going to tackle it, but after watching all that is involved, I think I will just continue to start it with the cord. I was hoping you could access it easily through the back. Nope.
@@brantsmallenginerepairs Thank you so much for taking the time to record this instructive video. This is by far the most detailed and easy to understand TH-cam instruction on how to rebuild this starter. I had a bit of trouble taking out the starter after I unbolted it. Seemed a bit like a Chinese puzzle but I managed after playing with it a little. Were you able to find a flywheel? I am sticking with this little Toro. The bigger and more powerful unit would take up a too much of garage space. Now with the global warming we have 3-5 snow storms per winter at most. Saving on garage space and saving money on buying a new blower is worth a bit of an effort to clear out a big storm with a smaller blower. Besides, when my starter stopped working last winter, I had no trouble starting my Toro with a recoil pull starter. But thanks to your video, the rebuilding procedure of the electric start is now clear. One more idea that some may find helpful is to get the special tool for this job Tecumseh 670346. It's a bit expensive though.
@@elms88 Haven't found a flywheel as of yet but I'm keeping me eyes peeled. In the meantime, I bought another 3650 that was in better shape for $100. Thanks for your comments.
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I am so thankful to your video which is probably the only one reminds people to check on the flywheel before putting in a new starter gear. After watching your video, I decided to take it apart to inspect the flywheel first before I order the new gear. To my surprise, both the starter gear and flywheel gear are in very good to almost new condition (my Toro is almost 10 years old). The reason for not starting was due to a missing lock nut. There are two 1-1/4" bolts that hold the flywheel to the engine. The two nylon locking nuts are recessed into a hole on the flywheel. One bolt was loose with about 1/4" sticking out with locking nut still attached. The other bolt was completely loose without locking nut found in the recessed hole. There is no way the bolt could totally shake off the locking nut from its full thread (the locking nuts are really tight). Even if it does, due to the recessed hole design, there is no way the nut would be missing. My friend and I concluded that it was a factory assembly fault. Anyways, it was a great feeling of success to fix it at no cost. Thank you so much for the video instructions.
I'm glad you were able to fix your own machine. Thanks for watching! Cheers
Great video. Really appreciate it. I'd installed the new gear and it didn't work. Your video showed me to take a second look in the package where I found the rubber washer. It's important!
Glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching. Cheers
Hey Brant. Thanks so much for the video! You’re the only one who shows up close and detailed how to take off and replace the starter gear itself. Appreciate it. Subbed your channel and looking forward to looking back in the archives and new videos. I also have a Stihl 2 stroke hedge trimmer that runs only on half choke if you can get it started. New video idea? Keep up the good work and thanks again.
Glad you enjoyed the video. As for your hedge trimmer, I would start by adjusting your low speed screw counter-clockwise a quarter turn. If it's only running on choke, it's not getting enough fuel. You can possibly fix this by adjusting the low speed fuel screw out a bit. If this doesn't help then you might need to take the carb off and clean it. The pumping diaphragm usually gets brittle. Maybe this video will help.
th-cam.com/video/8RjTEjQG-14/w-d-xo.html
Just what I was looking for. My starter drive will not engage. I got rebuilding kit and now I see how to rebuild starter. It takes awhile to get starter motor out and you want to get it right before you reinstall motor and put machine back together. Thanks.
Glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching and please consider liking the video and subscribing to the channel. It really helps me out. Cheers
Thanks for the video... really well done. Question : I have this machine and my starter is making the exact same noise... also, my pull cord has not tension as if it is just pulling out free without turning what it should be... in other words its like pulling air. It does retract but when being pulled....nothing is turning in the engine. So... does this sound like a flywheel issue? I am wondering if it pays to deal with this as it might not be cost effective. Can I fix the pull cord and just not use the electric start ? Any thoughts on this? Also, appx what is the cost you have found for the flywheel if that is my issue? Thank you again.
This sounds like 2 different issues. The pull cord issue sounds like the pawls in the starter recoil assembly are not flying out when you pull the cord. These pawls catch on the inside of a starter cup which is attached to the end of the crankshaft. The electric start is usually the teeth on the starter gear and/or the teeth on the flywheel. The flywheel is cost prohibitive in my opinion unless you can find a good used one. Cheers
Thank you. Very Helpful
@@brantsmallenginerepairs
thanks on rebiuld starter. excellent
Glad I could help. Cheers
replacing electric starter on a Toro CCR2450 snow thrower. thanks.
Glad I could help. Have a good one. Cheers
Good video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching. Cheers
Trying to find an engine swap/rebuild guide for this...
Sorry but I have not come across one that needed to be rebuilt/swapped. If I do, I will be sure to post a How To video. Cheers
you're better off swapping the engine. you're better off cost-wise and reliability-wise, rather than rebuilding.
Wow. I was going to tackle it, but after watching all that is involved, I think I will just continue to start it with the cord. I was hoping you could access it easily through the back. Nope.
That's the beauty of having the traditional pull start as a backup. Cheers
Definitely a pain to work on and if i see a machine like that on a curb I will just drive away and remember this video
I quite like these little Toros in spite of their flaws. I use one myself for the small amount of driveway I have. Cheers
@@brantsmallenginerepairs Thank you so much for taking the time to record this instructive video. This is by far the most detailed and easy to understand TH-cam instruction on how to rebuild this starter. I had a bit of trouble taking out the starter after I unbolted it. Seemed a bit like a Chinese puzzle but I managed after playing with it a little. Were you able to find a flywheel?
I am sticking with this little Toro. The bigger and more powerful unit would take up a too much of garage space. Now with the global warming we have 3-5 snow storms per winter at most. Saving on garage space and saving money on buying a new blower is worth a bit of an effort to clear out a big storm with a smaller blower. Besides, when my starter stopped working last winter, I had no trouble starting my Toro with a recoil pull starter. But thanks to your video, the rebuilding procedure of the electric start is now clear. One more idea that some may find helpful is to get the special tool for this job Tecumseh 670346. It's a bit expensive though.
@@elms88 Haven't found a flywheel as of yet but I'm keeping me eyes peeled. In the meantime, I bought another 3650 that was in better shape for $100. Thanks for your comments.
@@brantsmallenginerepairs Did you ever find a flywheel? I'm needing to replace mine too. I think I'll hold off on the starter gear until then. Thanks!
@@johnl.konneker3840 I have not found one that's reasonably priced (used). I've just used it with the pull start