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- Scratch Maestro Jimi Needles has NEVER seen a Denon SC6000M before! Check out his first impressions and scratch routine as Ratzi talks him through all the standout features in Serato, and standalone mode as well as layering it up with the LC6000!
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Own the Denon’s as well as Pioneers myself, it’s really a shame that most clubs still haven’t adapted to Denon yet. This is generations ahead of the CDJs in all areas including quality and at a far better price point.
Hey Nicolas, thanks for your comment! Have you played on the CDJ-3000s?
sound quality
Played on both. I actually have owned both flagships .denon is fully packed with features but Pioneer has that market share . If you play clubs on want to play clubs pioneer is the way to go. Denon feels like prosumer. They need to take the fight to pioneer with something worthy and a worthy 4 and 6 channel proper high end mixer. Just make something that will cost and be worth $2499 . If its good it will sell. Trust me
Can we get actual footage of interaction with these unit. Because talking and pushing buttons at random just does NOT cut it for me. I would like to see how it handles in Action. I am a user of the Sc6000s and X1850. And would like to see other users experience. Thank You.
@@mixx_factory
It will never happen mostly because inMusic has so many other companies and products they can leave Pioneer to their relatively niche overall market share. An LC6000m would have been the supreme solution. Instead inMusic gave that to the Rane 12 and shot themselves in the foot. As well, I agree, they needed a superior mixer. Maybe a 6 channel 2 bus/zone option. Lesson to be learned kids; as much as it is about having a superior product it is also about creating a toolbox of products that work together to be greater than the sum of their parts.
BTW: I run an FLX-10 (Rekordbox) with an SC6000m and love it; a brilliant solution that hits all the bases for me.
Thanks everyone, as I said I’m totally (well, not now) unfamiliar with the vast majority of Denon products and this video was pretty much not even scripted- these products have to much to offer and blew me away, even to a vinyl/dvs guy like me. Really eye-opening stuff! In fact there’s so much going on we missed a few things- keep those comments coming guys. JN 😎
Denon is just the best. Way ahead of its time. Better and more value for your money.
I don't know about ahead of it's time. Pioneer just live in the past. I mean
..they only just scrapped CDs and how long ago did people stop using CDs?
This is what makes me laugh with all the reviews and "tips and tricks" videos that come out when these get released... The scope with these players is SO UNDERRATED.
Jimmy, Ratsy forgot to tell you about the drivebay underneath the sc6000m for installing an internal ssd so you can have your whole collection stored on the player
Just got a brand new SC6000M with a LC6000, connected to a Xone:DB4 and waouh, the setup is absolutely nuts. I barely scratch all the options it offers me !
I think Denon can kick out Pioneer. But when you listen to most of the reviews, everybody says that Pioneer is more professional, it's the "industry leader" and they omit details of the SC6000s like they are reading a script...
Out of interest, have you played on the new CDJ-3000s?
one of the most common cons i hear of Denon players is that the build quality and overall durability is severely lacking compared to Pioneer's CDJs. I can't attest to any of that firsthand since i have yet to touch either of the two. If that's true though, then if Denon can work on that, they could maybe have a chance to be as common as CDJs
@@lavenderllamamusic wait what? pioneer is known for using plastic where ever they get away with it... hell my backup mixars duo has a better built quality than an 2000$ s11
I have never had any issues with the build quality of Pioneer DJ products!
Denon sc6000 is better than CDj 3000. The problem is that in the club's you only see CDJ3000 because before had CDJ2000. You don't need to adapt to other model of player who Denon... I had booth players. I enjoy a lot of with Denon SC 6000 M. Is the best for me...
I have been using this 6000 series for 6 months now. I have to say... Awesome. I love to play on these Denon's... Last few months I bring them myself to the gigs 😊 especially when I build in ssd's 🤙🏻
Glad you like them! Shame that you have to bring them to gigs yourself, they should be in the club already!
Thank you, great job you two
Nice one Willie! Don’t forget to sub!
What a paradise setup ✌️✌️✌️Denon is on fire 🔥
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I love the hosts Hey Arnold t-shirt! Used to love that show back in the day 😎
Great overview of both Denon players. super rad.
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Daaaaaaam dual layer , 4 channels capability, Dennon is on fyyyyyrrrrrrr. loads of bells and whistles.
They're pushing the boundaries that's for sure!
I love my denon sc6000m.
Are you from a vinyl background?
Love my Prime 4. Denon are rocking it. I have no idea why people buy Pioneer any more. You pay more and get less.
Out of interest, are you a mobile DJ? What's your fave feature on the Prime 4?
2nd that .... have my prime 4 for about 2 weeks, will never go back to anything else .. and yes i am a mobile dj mostly for sports events like american football, street basketball ... so outdoor events! PS: if you want more details, ask Jimi for my contact details ;)
@@DJMadie Sweet - I'm glad you love it too.
@@DJMadie I 3rd that just turn it on and play music anywhere! Denon is knocking down excuses!! Pioneer is great but it’s too tethered. Denon is very liberating from past limitations
I have the 6000s n the lc6000 couldn’t be happier
How many Sc6000s do you have? You rocking 4 decks with the LC6000s?
Great title. I liken the debate to film vs. digital circa 2005. You had these old timers that swore by film (still nice format), but it’s impractical. Denon caught-up and it’s a standard for those who think forward. If you’re stuck in the past, you’re using CDJs.
Love my SC6000 and x1850. #denonDJ
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If Denon were to come out with an LC6000m without the screen to compete with the Rane 12 mk2s, I'd seriously consider the denons when I am ready for a full setup.
InMusic own both Denon and Rane so I doubt they would do that. Have you played on the TWELVES?
@@djkit not the 12 specifically, I have a Rane One currently.
Nice controller! Definitely give the Twelves a spin if you get the chance!
Yes, I also wonder why these are not in EVERY club and on every stage. The once “young DJ cool guys” have now become “old miesers” and refuse to upgrade to better.
Haha, who would you describe as the "young DJ cool guys?" 😂
I have 3 SC6000's (yes i know i do not need 3) and the x1850. Also can add an SSD drive in the bay underneath it and once linked? all the decks can access that music. These are amazing
I would really like a Denon DJ product. Maybe someday 🤷🏻♂️
Hahaha! Yea alright superstar! 😂
In 2 years since launch I wanted to snap the foto of a DENON at a concert/event. In zero instances have I seen one. Not even in online recordings. Everybody just got the new Pioneers.
Who's here after the Rane offer?
Honestly a bizarre coincidence that offer came out just after we posted this video, as that offer isn't available in the UK! 😂
I mix a lot of vinyl and had the SC5000M. I found them a bit strange to mix on and when touching the vinyl on the player I couldn't manipulate it like normal vinyl. it was totally fine for scratching and all the other features are amazing. I have now got the Prime VL12's and gone back to DVS. it would be amazing if denon could come up with something 100% like a turntable but these are as close as it gets so far.
Thanks for your comment! Have you checked the Rane Twelves?
@@djkit no I have not had the chance to have a go of the 12's
I think that might be the answer to what you're looking for (InMusic own both Denon DJ and RANE (and Numark actually) so the workflow is quite similar).
@@djkit I agree the Rane Twelves rock. They work perfectly out of the box, took me about 30mm max to get a handle on them after using TT, CDJs and controllers. In fact it’s the closest unit I have used to Techs without the need of Cartridges/Phase etc. These are the modern day Turntables.
Hey :) thanks for your informative video . Ne completely different question I have and would be very happy if you could help me there: would you recommend 2 x JBL Partybox 1000 in combination with Prime 4 or SC6000 as a PA system? because they are easier to transport thought me get them to me but unfortunately do not know me technically with it . Would be happy about a short feedback. Kind regards :)
Wish I could post a pic of all of my Denon gear hooked up with my turntables too.
What are you working with Corey?
Because something else was there earlier and once there is a standard, it’s not going to change.
It would have been great to see Jimmy scratch on the LC 6000. :)
Jimi likes stuff that spins.. 🤣
Denon was a home theater company now that more people interested in the brand are more competitive in the dj market.
Do you think people care more about the brand than the quality of the equipment?
Denon had the first 19" dual cd player with pitch control and pitch bend as a the club standard 30y ago😆
Denon and Denon DJ are two different companies
if im gonna use a rane mixer in a standalone set up with a sc6000, is it better for me to get the seventy which is cheaper or should i get the seventy two mk2?
Yes you can hardwire these to the internet via a router using the onboard ethernet port and turn off the wifi, same on the prime 4, 2 and Go.
An important feature doubled up with linking all the players together!
Hello there! Great video! I just wanted to ask if I can play with a rane 70 mixer and a laptop with serato, without any controllers.
Yes you can! Check out the 'Transport' pad mode.
Yes a turntable verson of this would be cool
it's purely an attrition thing. all the clubs have pioneer in them because that was what was best when they bought gear. That fact has caused pioneer to be 'industry standard' everywhere. Club owners are not interested in what the lastest gear can do or how good it is. They are interested in what can they buy that will serve the most people and last longest without spending more money. That is assuming the club is even looking to buy. they are not keeping up with trends or looking to upgrade every two years, management will wait for their techs or DJ's to tell them artists are starting to ask for 3000s now and will eventually begrudgingly buy them once they have had to hire them one too many times.
The fact that pioneer IS in all the clubs means that gigging club DJ's are already forced to be in that ecosystem and will want to use that. its self perpetuating at this point. The only way I could see denon getting in the door would be to send all major and mid level clubs a set of 6000s.
The only thing wih that set up is: If you use the Serato mixer- you still need the laptop. If you have to use a laptop- you can just use a controller to do most of that stuff and it will be: much cheaper and easier to transport.
You can use the same set up with the Denon mixer (or the higher level mixers, Pioneer 900 nx2, Pioneer v10 or A and H Xone 96) and not have to use a laptop.
I have the Prime Four and I use the LC 6000 as a third/ layer deck with it. I find the Denon stuff is a slight step below the sound quality of the good pioneer mixers. I really don't think most would notice it but if you are at a festival on a loud system- it will be. I find the A and H to have to best sound quality, but not by much. That Xone 96 mixer is an insane beast, especially if you have an Eventide H9 Max on the send/ returns.
Every club should have at least 2 of these. Every DJ can use it, from DJs who use turntable DVS, CDJ, Controller, etc. I don't like the idea of industry standard with CDJ, because if you're looking into a musician or band perspective, not all musician want to play with the same guitar, bass or drum. They have their own taste and their own way to do it. Same for DJs....
Thanks for your comment, that's a really good comparison!
The most important: quality Sound and quality construction. Who wins?
If you have the x1850 mixer like me, my 2 sc6000’s link together through the x1850 to share music and then pick up an internet connection through the hub of x1850 as it has a lan port dedicated to connect to the internet, plus it allows the option of using soundswitch lighting software, just like garlic bread it’s the future. If you install a sata drives into the built in bays , you can have a backup music library. If one source dies, switch to the other…….
Hahaha, garlic bread!? 😂
If you switch from usb to serato, the music only has to stop if you have just one player...otherwise you transition one player at a time while the opther plays the music...which is the most commen setup
Sure, that's a good work around, it's still a big shame that the music has to stop at all IMO.
I have two questions and I apologise if they have already been answered somewhere. First, does the 2 layer mode work when it's stand alone or does it need Serato to interface with the mixer? In that case isn't it just like any old deck? So I imagine it must work in stand alone too. Secondly, if you're searching for a track on Tidal or your hard disk/usb is there a way to type in text or is it scroll only? Thanks in advance
Hello! The 2 layer mode works in stand alone mode as well! There is a touch screen QWERTY keyboard for searching across all sources!
Can the wave form be shown any larger? (When in serato mode). Trying to move away from a laptop screen)
If you're using it with Serato, then it's limited to what you see in most the video.
If you're using it in Standalone then yes, look at 16:16 and you'll get a better idea.
Want to order SC6000M. But does anyone actually carry this deck around to the nightclubs and mobile Dj sets and does it hold strong?
I do dig my Prime Go which has travelled with me to every dj set this summer, at 40 to 4000 people events and all good. Prime Go after intensive spring and summer are losing the crossfader and Master and Booth knobs started to crack of having dust somewhere deep inside and I do have a hardcase had lots of open air gigs
We would always recommend a sturdy flight case when transporting any DJ equipment! Glad you're shown the Prime GO a good time this summer!
The question is "Why isn't the Denon DJ system not in all clubs?" You would have to ask the DJs who use only turntables and Pioneer products why they won't switch to Denon. I have experienced an old version of Denon mixer and was confused. That was the case because 1. I never use Denon products and 2. I learned to DJ with only Pioneer. Both sides would like to say their product is better than the other. I would say the product is on most major DJ riders are Pioneer. When I play on the Pioneer DJ system for the first time (via the CDJ 2000 Nexus2 and 900 Nexus mixer) it was scary because I learned from controllers only. Once I start playing, I felt at home. I haven't had the opportunity to play the CDJ 3000 yet but I am looking forward to doing so. As far as innovation and price point I can see why DJs nowadays are turning towards Denon. The SC6000 and the LC6000 are game-changers. If you buy one of each with a mixer, you will spend far less than the Nexus system. For Denon to have more of the system in clubs, venues and festivals they would have to really convince the big-name DJs to choose their products over Pioneer. Good luck!!
And thats how it is.
Its a monopoly that pioneer has and its not gonna change easy!
Denon users can complain about that, but that isnt gonna change a thing.
I really like denon dj products but if you want to dj in clubs its better to practice on pioneer.
Simple as that!
Numark did a 12inch player back 20y ago. The cdx.
So they did! I forgot about the CDX!
Funny he said if it was in a 12in version. We’ll look out for the SN6000M😇
Luis, what does the N stand for?
My guess would be Serial Number. 6000M. Just like the M. HMMMM🤔🤔😝
I just picked up a couple Denon SC5000M media players will these decks work with a Numark Scratch mixer in stand alone mode.
Thanks
Hey Rocky! Yes they absolutely will, but you won't be able to use any of the FX or pad modes on the mixer. Hope this helps!
@@djkit ok thanks, would I be better off going with the Denon X1800 or X1850
Thanks
I would pair the 5000s with the X1800, and the 6000s with the X1850!
@@djkit Ok great thanks
The problem with this mixer is that you need PC and software to use. I buy the SC 6000 M but I don't want have a PC in my set up. Could I use the Mixer RANE at 100% with FX, pads, etc without computer?
Yes, the Rane Seventy-Two and mk2 can be used as a completely standalone mixer without the use of a laptop or Dj software!
@@djkit but you lose options? For example the pads for samples? Can you uses the 16 pads without PC?
I wish you showed him it with virtualdj since it has much better implementation than serato.
Yea it’s wayyy better on VDJ actually
The art of music is the art in music. i have met many club owners in germany and austria. it's just a lot of money and convenience. as is so often the case, it's not about the best equipment, it's about a lot of money. The dream of only being able to drop by with a USB stick or a cloud in your backpack is simply unrealistic. if you look at the videos about comparing systems, it always wins - if it surprises you - pioneer, of course. and i will continue to annoy my operators and install my xone equipment.
In an ideal world, every club would have the option to a lot of different equipment!
@@djkit and in a free, unencumbered and uncorrupt world, the judgment would be fair and impartial. but this is no longer possible due to the purchased ecosystem from pioneer. the money determines the equipment and forces talented creative dj s to implement this system. sad. but a reflection of our current social society, which is built up with little freedom from slavery.
09:31 - Truth has been spoken
You mean the 12" SC6000? Surely that's just a RANE TWELVE with a screen!? 😂
@@djkit it really felt that you made a joke "you mean massive in size" :))
RANE is making top of the line periferic equipment for their already developed ecosystem... centering around laptop processing power and software features that they offered throughout their market take over. Would not make sense for them to make a standalone piece. It would be really nice, a RANE X Denon collab, for the Ultimate Equipment.
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can this work with virtual dj?
Yes it can!
Yes, but not the free version.
I have 2 SC5000'S and have had them over 21/2 years now and love them. If your a die hard rekordbox user then it even analyses your rekordbox prepared USB.
Glad to hear you're getting on well with them! Have you kept them up to date with the latest features?
You do realize that there are 2 USB ports on these players one on the front of the player and one on the back you load a track and that track will keep playing while you switch over the music doesn't stop.
Yes, but the music has stop when switching from standalone mode to ‘computer’ mode for Serato / Virtual DJ.
each song is only analyzed once u load it. it cannot analyze the entire usb at once, or pre analyze.
Cada dueño de club se guia por lo que segun le dice su vendedor... ahi depende del dueño o lo que exija el dj.
Punto justo!
If people are comfortable with old technology let them be. Meanwhile I'll keep things standalone. With my 6000's & 1850. Also Prime 4 & Prime Go. 😊
How much of the ‘new technology’ do you use when you’re playing out on your Denon equipment?
@@djkit I use all of it. I use Tidal for streaming. I have a 1 terabyte internal hard drive for my music library. The screen is like using an iPad. The pitch control is rock solid. I spin soulful & classic house music; with long transitions. And the all metal top plate of the unit. Makes it feel & look a little more robust. Once you go standalone and get your music set up. You will not go back to a laptop. Engine to me is just as good as any other software out there.
I'm pleased that you're getting on with the whole ecosystem, sounds like you have put a lot of trust in to the brand!
@@djkit The brand never did me wrong. I have been laptop less for years now. Standalone is lovely. 😊
The Denon sc6000m media players needs to be in every single nightclub alongside the reloop rp-8000 MK2 turntables because Denon is way better brand then Pioneer reloop and Denon needs to be in all night clubs pubs and festivals worldwide with phase and needles on the reloop if people agree on this let's make this happen worldwide because Denon and reloop needs to come into nightclubs everywhere worldwide and festivals and pubs because Denon and reloop are the number one DJ equipment built of today with high quality let's make this happen
As a complete noob, the thought of buying a laptop along with a DJ controller and mixer is a massive turn off. This setup looks very intuitive. Your eyes stay on the decks. No constant glancing at your Apple Airbook hoisted 4ft above your decks.
Having a laptop on a stand figuring and looking up is a lot more pro than looking down figuring, heads up nobody know what or who ur looking at ur head stay looking towards crowd one of the reason I dont like using glide shelve cases to low always looking down adjustable laptop stand work better for me.
@@k9chance250 Surely the point is you should be focused on your decks?
@@Johnnyjawbone the point is you should be focused on your audience ;)
@@ssneg I think I'll focus on the mix first. The audience can get a wave now and then. They're not really there for you.
Lol, they are not going to make a controller/stand-alone unite that have everything I promise you that, so they always going to make them great but sill leave off some function that would've made it excellent. Example: look at the PIONEER DJ DDJ RZ/SZ/SZ2. its great and beautiful controller but could you image it with CDJ's/1000/1000SRT jog-wheel (pressure sensitive) instead of a touch sensitive jog-wheel and also look at the DJ DDJ 1000/1000SRT can you imagine it with all the looping/effect section just like the RZ/SZ/SZ2 instead of having to use two (2) hands to loop a song? If they to make a controller/stan-alone like that I promise you that would be a bomb of and controller.
Completely agree, if they made the controllers perfect, no one would feel the need to buy any of the CDJs / media players!
agreed ...but Pioneer .....
Pioneer is a lot more familiar perhaps?
I've tried the 6000 and they were good. But the fact that you can't stack waveforms between separate decks narked me off a bit. I found the USB a bit awkward to use at the front as well. Especially if you have a sliding USB stick. The deck I was on awesome just stopped outputting audio and we had to restart it. Halfway through the event, everyone went back to using Pioneers!! I don't think people will change habits as the Denon's are just complicated for technology sake. Sorry but this is just my opinion. Direct streaming from Beatport is great. But what happens if WiFi drops mid tune?
Well a bit late but anyway... Nothing will happen if WiFi drops. The player download the full song and keep the full song in memory
I purchased a pair of LC6000 from GC and was disappointed. I really was hoping to use them every week to replace my Pioneer SRT1000. I was tired of using a small controller. To my dismay, the platter tension just too heavy. even on their lightest setting, theyre very heavy.
do they work well with serato, yes.
do they have an amazing layout, yes.
they weigh nearly nothing, which is super dope.
IMO, just too far from the SRT or CDJ platter feel. I really wanted them to be amazing but they werent. But hey, I move through so many different genres in a night and do a hip-hop style mix. LC6000s might be a great alternative to the high prices of CDJs for dance djs.
These went back to GC within a week. Now I realize why they arent industry standard or even close to breaking through.
Pioneer will probably stay around as long as rekordbox controllers exist.
DJing on a ddj 400 feels a lot like DJing on cdjs or xdjs..
DJing on denon feels different and there's not really a cheap way to get into the denon eco system.
That’s a fair point, although Numark and Denon go hand in hand as they’re owned by the same company!
@@djkit still there's a different feel to DJing on serato (the software most numark controllers use) and djing on engine.
It's not impossible to make the change it is however noticeable especially if you use the looping/cue/effects a lot.
@@djstuc I'm a dj that will play on anything... I started years ago using torq.
I'm not saying engine is impossible to switch over to. I am saying pioneer is doing a great job capturing a uniform feel of DJing between their cheaper and more expensive gear. Which means people who start at the ddj 400 will feel comfortable upgrading to the xdj line , and will prefer cdjs over Denon gear when given a choice ...
DJing is probably 80% the feeling you prefer that is the reason why some DJs still use technic turntables in 2022 even though there are cheaper, more versatile, and more sensible ways to play digital music.
@@djstuc you're kinda missing my point. The way rekordbox implements the cue system , the grids, loops, quantize, the hot cues even the way you navigate the menus feels the same across the board from the ddj 400 to the cdj 3000. Not to mention that rekordbox saves all the cue points /loops /playlists on a flash drive which means you have essentially what you've been working on with the ddj 400 accessable by the cdjs.
Best comparison is the iphone. Theres a difference between an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 12 but they both feel like iphones when you use them.
I will probably never own a cdj in my lifetime unless I get into producing more shows, but I do have a ddj 1000 for the events I need to bring my own gear to and for home use.
I've played on my fair share of Denon gear. It's useable and def has some interesting features , but it def feels different... And when given the choice I'm picking the one that feels more like my home setup. I'd probably prefer Denon if my home setup was an engine product..
@@djstuc I personally think cdjs have transitioned into production gear. They are Something that are used for festivals, shows and clubs and not so much personal use
Ethernet is much much faster actually. I use Ethernet and it’s wayyy faster and more reliable than WiFi. All clubs should have the internet router in the booth so DJs can plug this unit in and songs load in less than 2 seconds!!! Literally!!! All clubs should have this period!!!!!
@@djstuc it only benefits the club
@@djstuc bro it’s not a lot of money. You just need a router lol.
@@djstuc I have one at home and my other job and works there. It was plug n play. Simple.
@@djstuc yes correct, I’m not saying your wrong but putting it in the booth makes things way easier.
@@djstuc it’s time for a change. Clubs are evolving with the times
They really are nice its a shame they will never sell like Pioneer players, the club standard is dead most clubs are using external mixer and audio setups anyway to be honest, been playing 30+ years I have never heard so many pipe dreams about club standard BS its funny, I dont think many DJs today will be lugging around any 1800$ units to do 1000$ gig when you can pull the same set off with a Prime 4 or Rev 7 not logical at all, I read so many post a lot of them are far from reality since the Pandemic and even before many resident DJs are part time and mobile and many are now using controllers now soundcards are getting better also, dont buy into that standard crap unless you REALLY have a nice plug in a high end club giving you a clean chance at achivement, save your money if your a mobile DJ,when beers start flying drunks start clowning you can replace a most controllers for a lot cheaper lol.
I totally agree that there is a big difference in what equipment mobile DJs use to play parties and what equipment is found as a permanent fixture in nightclubs. Although the argument is that a good DJ should be able to use anything! 🙃
I don't own Denon, but what stopped me from purchasing was the nightmare reports of reliability and serviceability and poor customer service/support. It's a really big deal to me.
I have heard about problems with some updates, but never of customer service!
Maybe you need to talk to Greg in your returns about my 2 sc6000’s,,,,,one was faulty on arrival,,,,,,2 had issues and then Denons tech guys damaged them, I’m on player no.6, still love em though…….not Dj kits fault in any way.
Sorry that happened Matthew, but that's a little out of the ordinary!
Vinyl all the way, only the intelligent owners buys Denon. Denon has always been hi class system dating back in the early 70’s pioneer is a different story. Pioneer products are $600-$1300 over there value…..
Those buttons under jog wheel are problem. That is space to lay hand on player when you are using jog. Arm rest. Pioneer will never put any button in arm rest zone.
So you prefer the hot cues above the jog like on the CDJ-3000?
No they put them on top of a touch sensitive jog wheel🤣🤣
@@irishpaddy555 … you never put your arm on arm rest zone under jog?
Where would you prefer them to be?
Why isn't Denon in all the clubs? Because the club owners buy Pioneer because it's what the veteran DJs want to use. Up-and-coming DJs want to use Pioneer because it's what's in the clubs. It's a circle that Denon has been trying to break since the days of the DN-S5000s. I don't see that happening.
At this point, the only way Denon surpasses Pioneer is if Pioneer screws up.
Denon does own the Mobile DJ market so there's that.
They're fine if you still play in vinyl mode or clutter your tracks with hot cues. I don't. Got the Prime 4 and to me it was a brick, utterly useless. Probably too old for this stuff. I don't, and will never use streaming services. I do a lot of gigs on 12-24 h party cruisers. As soon as they leave for the open sea, bye bye streaming... I'll keep using my USB devices. Also, I prefer to have the freedom to set the cue point I need on the fly, and for that I need the old standard CDJ mode. It doesn't exist on the new Denon line up. I have asked Denon why, but they don't have an answer, still, years later. Nore can you set memory cue's, which is a bummer if that is part of your work flow. There's a number of other little reasons, in particular for the all-in-one systems that are just wrong, that the total impression for many of us pro DJs is ''nah this shit ain't working''. I've said it since the new Denons arrived, also in person to the Denon developers, that until they get those little things fixed, they are not getting in to the booths as the primary gear setup. The Denon workflow and new features impress only the controller DJ's, as for them it's all familiar. I still play the occasional vinyl gig, and then I love the way vinyl works and sounds. On digital, I need the digital features I'm used to. The M versions I leave out of my rant, because they are for a complete different kind of use where the stuff I mentioned won't matter. I'm stuck with the competition, and I blame Denon for that. They could easily fix both the CDJ mode and add memory cues to the features, and in the process add a lot of potential buyers. It's a huge question mark that they don't. I'd rather use CD's, than a pair of SC6000's, just too keep my workflow intact as much as possible. I love the huge screens on new devices, but they are not essential for me to play. I still play by ear, not by the visuals. Every time I comment on this I get the boohs from the fan boys n girls, but so far I'm the one who got it right. Still no Denons in the booths. Fix this now Denon, could be done with a single update.
Like Technics we had better turntables around in the 90s but Technics got in first and no one wanted the others... Technics were the simple gods same as Pioneer
I'm interested to know which turntables you preferred over Technics!
@@djkit I didnt that was the point. The Stanton and Vestax were better but we all went with Technics much like Denons are better but we go with Pioneer!
Clubs don’t care.
It isn´t in the clubs because it has a high end roll off. Everyone can easily find this info on the web. Quite a shame that they didn´t manage to give it a proper sound, other wise it would have killed the pionners cdj line completly.
Hey Peter, interested to hear what you mean by high end roll off, could you tell us more?
It's not in the clubs because of the master marketing of PioNooooo...! And 80% of dumb DJ's falling for it.. #sorrynotsorry
Do you think the Denon Players are club worthy?
Its terrible, The jog platters on the SC6000 feel like they have grit in them. Platter tension either too weak or too strong. Knobs on the X1850 have no resistance. Built quality issues, Crashing Issues. Had my setup for less than 4 months and found it to be too unreliable for continued club use.
Sorry that you didn't get on with it David! Have you tried the jog wheels on the new CDJ-3000?
@@djkit and therein lies the problem. You get all the toys on the SC6000 for less than half the price of the CDJ3000. I swapped over to an XDJ-XZ as it was all I could afford! CDJ3000 feels lovely, but way out of my price range unfortunately.
The XZ is a great all rounder, but not quite perfect. If it was, no one would feel the need to buy the CDJs! 😂
because dude it isn't the "industry standard" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We HATE that expression here 😂
Thank god its not in the clubs