Which is the Best 3D-Printed Dungeon?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2020
- I compare these five different dungeon systems to see which one is the best!
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the price of magnets adds up, BUT... in my mind, its what makes having dungeon tiles worthwhile. Having to clip together beforehand makes the tiles not so fun, but with Magnets, they are great. and what he says about low walls is correct. I have gone mostly thingiverse, openlock with magnets.
The low walls of the True Tiles system is meant to allow for other clip on wall pieces that the creator has tutorials on how to build. Worth checking out what clip-on doodads he has created on his channel.
Having followed the creator for a long time, I'm more likely to be on-board with True Tiles, knowing the design philosophy behind it. I need to see if TT has options for tall walls, though, for the occasional multi-level setup.
The reason for the dragonlock/rampage full height walls of 2 inches is to allow for multi level setups. I guess not so much for dungeons but if doing buildings, maybe a castle or watchtower you can build each level, stack them and add or remove as you move through them.
I use foam dividers for extra support, and the last campaign that I did had a 5 tier dungeon where I could peel away the layers as the party got further in. For lore, they received a map of the first level, and subsequent maps were either found, or I used a foam sheet to hide areas they hadn't mapped yet.
@@tsukasaoftheazureskythats dope yo
One of the bonuses of truetiles is the 1.25" grid makes it so your minis are less tightly packed and easier to move. Most minis don't stay over top of their 1"x1" base, they're usually sticking cloaks or weapons over the edges in 1 or more directions.
I don't know why people don't use 1.25"... if you're spending all this time and money for the best dungeon tiles possible, why do you want to deal with pieces always knocking in to each other and getting tangled up?
And you cant even see the tiles that are occupied with 1".
Seems like a total no-brainer to me but idk
Thanks for the video. I tested many of the systems you discussed. For me, the most versatile system is true tiles by far. The low walls allow everyone around the table to see the board. The multitude of clips makes for great doors, double doors, traps, secret doors, etc. The half clip magnetic barrel system is really easy to put together and much less expensive than the ball magnets. Storage is easier as well. The two most common tiles are the no wall and single wall. The single wall tiles lay face to face for easy storage. I have printed over 100 tiles and they store easily and neatly in small amazon shipping boxes.
Wyloch, the creator of True Tiles, based it on his method for homemade dungeon tiles. He has a large selection of videos about making tiles and terrain. The very first video gives his philosophy and either that or the second gives exact measurements for what he is working with. The 3D printed tile line he made is all based on that earlier design.
Great vid! Awesome recommendations!!! I like your previous vid about mounting the tiles onto the magnetic bases.
Wow! A very densely packed video with a ton of info on these sets. Thanks so much for sharing to help your fellow gamers make informed decisions!
Thank you for leading me to Dragon´s Rest, great tiles, large amount of shapes for a very, very fair price, exactly what I was looking for.
This video was HUGELY helpful - exactly the sort of info I was trying to find out. Thanks so much!
Glad it was helpful!
@@gaminggeek241 If I may ask: does Dragon's Rest make non-stone walls, such as tavern walls or that sort of thing? I couldn't tell from their website. I'm sure you're busy, so no worries if you don't have a chance to respond. Thanks again so much for the great videos!
@@the_doc_webb They don't have non-stone walls, although Ian did just release a bunch more variety with the stone walls. I created a video though of how you can use any other 3D printed wall that you like and adapt it for Dragon's Rest: th-cam.com/video/h2Ept7pH2bY/w-d-xo.html
@@gaminggeek241 Thank you again! I really appreciate the time and effort you’ve put into this - checking out that video now!
I love that the test you used was Hero Quest. Such an awesome and nestalgic game.
Great video! This really helped me a lot with my decision making. I primarily build in Hirst Arts, but I'm looking to get into 3d printing.
Glad it was helpful!
Such a great, helpful video. I will absolutely be using openforge to print terrain for my DM
Thanks for the great video. It really helpt me in deciding on a dungeon system I want to go with in my Home Game of D&D. I will give Drangons Rest a try.
Glad to be helpful!
OpenForge does have a spacer floor piece, it's the AS
Mystic Realms has a tile system using the open lock connector. What makes the system great in my opinion is that the tile top connects to the base via press fit. It means that you only need to print a certain number of bases but can have as many different tops as you want. Currently there is not much variety though. I’ve been toying around with using his tile tops on Dragon Rests bases to get the best of both worlds
Love the video. Been playing D&D for 41 years??? Just missed its debut. I teach everyone that plays with my group how to draw out your own dungeons and I've played with groups all over the world. I have been a player in a 200 player adventure as well as having 10+ ppl playing more times than I can count. I'm new to 3d printing so this helps with options. as one of my best dungeon floors has 711 rooms in it, no hallways, seeing the different tiles side by side helps me decide what might work for me. Sadly I'm thinking I might have to make my own system. The small wall debate is kind of funny to me, as for some reason D&D players love to argue line of sight and believe it or not full walls cut way down on that. Great vid, love your back ground in it.
Hi man, I'm from Brazil, first time on your channel and I have to thank you a LOT......I'm trying to make my Hero Quest board and I was really lost until this video. Thanks, Great channel.
I'm glad that my video helped you! Make sure to see my video on the HeroQuest build: th-cam.com/video/zbzPkeEMrV0/w-d-xo.html Also, I am going to make a third follow-up video in about two weeks with some further suggestions (Dragon's Rest came out with an easier to print version that I am recommending).
@@gaminggeek241 thanks bro
Great video. I've been watching a bunch of your scenery painting vids lately, also very good.
I am getting my first printer in August and will start printing dungeon tiles as soon as I can in hopes of having a good stock built up by the time my D&D group can start meeting face to face again.
I also backed a Building Creation Kickstarter (Townbuilder) so that I can start designing and then printing my own buildings.
Pretty excited to get started.
Printing in black so you don't worry about scratching the paint is easily alleviated by just spraying your painted terrain with a clear coat when you're done painting them. Use gloss to make dank dungeons look wet, matte to keep wood buildings looking dry and cozy. I've been doing that to minis and terrain for decades, absolutely beat the hell out of them and never a single scratch.
I just throw a coat of mod podge on everything I finish.
Love Devon Jones and Open Forge!!!! We make and paint them on our channel. Great fun and quality from Devon.
Great video! I just subscribed to your channel after finding the table build video. Considering time and cost, would you say 3D printing these is worth it compared to Hirst Arts molds? That’s my current options.
Terrific comparison thank you very much! Obviously I get that the comparison was printable tiles but the Warlock Tiles by WizKids (in my opinion) do a great job of addressing the problem of wall footprints. They use Openlock style walls for exterior walls but have thinner walls on metal tabs that fit between floor sections for interior walls.
I just ordered a 3d printer like 2 hours ago. Then found your video. Very excited!
Awesome! Which printer did you get?
Printable scenery with low walls (they have a variety of walls and floor styles. Sewer, crypt, necro, wood, gothic etc....) a bit more pricey but well worth it.
Great video and so informative. Got me subscribed and liked.
the heroquest map was created during a time when the square grids were considered 10' across not 5'. so you need to take that into consideration with your maps. Basically double the needed squares.
Would love an updated video including some of the new options out there, like Dungeon Blocks and the new system from dragons rest probably others out there I'm unaware of.
Since this video, I still like Dragon's Rest the best, although I have a full set of Dungeon Blocks. Dragon's Rest came out with their own block system too. Are there others that you know of?
Great video, thank you! Small question - how strong is the magnetic linkage? Is it possible to lift the assembled 8x8 dungeon?
A very detailed breakdown. Thank you.
Great info, but time for an update for new comers in 2023 👶. That beep at 16:02 had me checking my Wash and Cure station. Had to play it a second time to make sure it was in the video!
As an "olde tyme" DM (starting circa 1978 with Traveller), I never used game maps as gospel, but rather as design guidance. Since we were all playing physically together, and by the same settings, it always worked. But, we did use things like corrugated box walls with magic marker scenery to create the "environment".
it looks like the dragons rest dungeon can also be converted to normal full tiles. going to print some out and give it a try... i'd rather add the extra movement spaces, than having half tiles..
You inspired me to go with Dragon Rest. The beige and grey looks awesome. Could you please share the material you used? Also, is the did you paint the floor?
I have a painting tutorial in this video: th-cam.com/video/zbzPkeEMrV0/w-d-xo.html
I remember just giving up on the HQ board when I was a kid because I started to buy miniatures that were 4 bases together and they couldn't even fit on the board.
Great content. Really appreciate you taking the time to provide your feedback and opinion.
It would be enough to make the tiles 1.25" wide, the walls 0.25" wide, and offset the walls 0.125" outside the tile. At the same time, leave 0.125 inches flat around each tile. Then the walls would be located half on one, half on an adjacent tile. It would be possible to build even a narrow corridor one inch wide, with walls on both sides.
@Gaminggeek which dungeon tiles would be quickest to print of those you showed here or any that you found since then? I'm running a game next week and have to print me a big "end boss room".
Where did you get the files for the furniture shown at 34:59? I've been searching for "Wizard's Store" put can't seem to find the exact set. Great video!
i think i saw some similar from loot studios, a set of mage room type stuff
Superlative analysis. It shows the attentiveness to detail necessary to engineering a flawless game.
I'm going with the openforge but I will create walls with the 1x whatever sized tiles so I can put the walls in the middle of said tiles. so that there is only a quarter inch on either side of the wall.
I'm slightly confused with Devon Jone's open forge system. I get that you print the top and the bottom separate and use magnets to connect tiles, is the only way to connect the top and bottom of the tile with glue?
Nice video! Thanks a lot for all this information. Can Dragons Rest in any way be combined with printable scenery? I like Dragons Rest, but I'd love to have some cavern and ship (I.e. wooden) walls too.. a bit concerned about the scale and compatibility..
Absolutely. If you watch this video, I show you how to adapt other system walls to Dragon's Rest: th-cam.com/video/h2Ept7pH2bY/w-d-xo.html
@@gaminggeek241 Thanks a lot!
What strength magnets did you need for the Dragons Rest tiles? N35, N40?
Do you know Dungeon Blox? May be another good option if you are looking for a printable dungeon building system.
Devon John's tiles are OP in my eyes. Love em so much
Yeah, especially since they are free! I wish he had a better categorized system since there are so many files.
@@gaminggeek241 yes I agree it would make things easier if they were grouped based on room types like taverns bits and dongeoun bits. But that's just the website as far as I know.
@@connortremeer1966 agreed. Ive been slowly downloading then and carefully organizing them
@@brandielee7971 You should share those libraries!
@@gaminggeek241 Working on it
Not sure why none of them have magnetic connectors on top in the intersection between squares. Seems like the easy spot to connect internal walls. Make the squares slightly bigger and centre the walls on them 1/2" thick walls...1-1/4" squares, etc. Could centre magnetic columns on them too. Then outer walls that magnetize to the outside squares. Easy.
Could make adjustable buildings and roofs too.
My family was watching this, and wondering why there was that most replayed hill towards the end, lol. Sounds like you got hit in the groin at some point there.
Great vid! Couldn't you just print the other lines a higher percent to achieve the 1.5" grid?
Yes, in the video I show the Printable Scenery stuff printed at 125% to create 1.25" squares. The bigger issue is dealing with the wall spaces.
Dungeonworks by Game Decor is my personal fav! None of the walls are attached so you don't need to print out a bunch of different pieces since it is very modular
I was going to mention this one as well.
Are there any collections of D&D style maps which do account for the extra half tile width walls? I have a hefty OpenLock collection but I'm having trouble finding premade dungeon maps for inspiration that don't have this "walls as thick as paper" problem.
I don't know of any publishers that specifically make maps that take the wider walls into account. I've played mostly the published D&D modules for 5th edition and just fudged the map and added more tiles to accommodate the walls. Like I mentioned in the video, it really doesn't matter for D&D since it isn't super tactical. I've found as long as you approximate the room size, you are fine.
where did you find the furniture you printed. You say wizards but im not finding it. Looks AWESOME
It's the in 003 Guild of Understanding folder, assuming you are a Dragon's Rest patron.
Hey, thanks for the video... I'm kind of new using my 3d printer (ender 3 v2), and I bought the dragonclick dungeon set... but, when I print the model, looks small (really small), defiantly is not the same size as yours. Do you know what I'm doing wrong?
Can you measure one of the squares? It should be close to 1" on one side (or about 25mm). Just one of the squares, not the set of 4.
you should really check the smoke alarm! lol
What about an update video with all the sets that have come up since? Kraken, Dungeonlab etc..
Have you had a chance to play test the Wizkids Warlock tiles? I don’t own a 3D printer and was hoping their system would also be Hero Quest compatible.
No, I haven't. But I do know that Warlock doesn't have single square pieces which is a requirement if you want to recreate the HeroQuest board exactly. Otherwise, I've seen other boards that use the 2x2 base systems and have fudged a little to adapt to HeroQuest. Also, check out Dungeons and Lasers as a cheaper option: th-cam.com/video/aqly57YzNT8/w-d-xo.html
Can you suggest where to purchase the magnetic balls needed for the Dragon Rest tiles?
If you are in the US, this is a good vendor: tinyurl.com/ya4585wx I had bad luck with a Chinese supplier that never arrived.
I'm not very familiar with how Patreon works. If I sign up for one month of the dragonsrest Patreon, do I get access to all their dungeon tile stl files? Is that how I can get all their dungeon files or is there another way?
Typically most Patreon accounts limit when you can get the files but with Dragon's Rest, you gain access to all the files which you can download onto your computer. Ian should really charge more because $6 is a steal for all those files, which is why I encourage patrons to support him for a couple months and not just one.
Hi just wanted to know have you modified the Dragons rest walls I see you have L shaped walls and when you lifted one up the magnets were only on one side of the L.
Yes, when I combined the two walls to make the corner, you can't fit a clip in the corner where the walls meet. So I put magnets in both the far ends. Even though only one magnet is connecting to the floor, it is still strong enough to hold the piece there.
took me way to long to realise the sound in the background was a 3D printer working and not morse code....
Great video! Which under-$1,000 3D printer would you recommend for printing great quality dungeon terrain?
I recommend the Prusa.
FlashForge 3D Printer Creator Pro
I know this is an old post, but for the benefit of new viewers: I actually get pretty good terrain quality out of my regular Creality Ender 3. You just have to play with the settings a little in the slicer program. The Ender 3 has a z-axis that is based on a 0.8 rotation step, so keeping your layers as either multiples of 0.8 or of the half-step of 0.4 actually helps because it's easier for the machine to achieve accurate z-motion.
I found 0.8 layer height gives really clean detail on most terrain, but you can go to 0.4 layer height for small stuff. For tiles and walls though I usually print at a 1.6 layer height or 2.0 layer height for speed, otherwise it takes forever to print, and simple shapes with limited detail don't need the same level of layer control to look decent after painting. On items with very straight surfaces, I will even go to 2.4 layer height when churning out big things like castle walls or building frames.
Very detailed scatter that is tiny or thin, like candelabras, goes on my Photon though, because while FDM is a lot cheaper to print and more durable if dropped in a storage bin, you just can't quite achieve the same ultrafine details as you can get in resin. If you watch for sales, you can get a Photon Zero for about $100. It's has a pretty small build plate, especially compared to my Ender 3, but does a super job on minis and those itty bitty scatter pieces.
What PLA is being used?
One other thing that's really important to me: which of these is fully compatible with Dwarven Forge? It's still THE terrain standard for people with a little less time on their hands who want great scenery, but it's very expensive, so adding to it with 3D-printed scenery always is a great option.
Does anyone know the answer to Driks question? I would like to know as well.
what do you think about terrain tinker / openlock tiles ?
I've never used it but the concept seems cool. The ability to create your layout and print exactly what you need is a good concept. I still like how Dragon Rest's 1.5" tile is the most versatile with the walls.
what is the infill percentage and layering height for open forge printing?
Everyone has their own preferences but my go-to settings are 10% infill at .2mm height.
I can to the same conclusions you did with TrueTiles being the best for a HeroQuest board. I modified the clips that come with it to work with clip on walls. I have videos showing how it works.
I got into 3D printing after watching your videos, and thats what lead to the Heroquest 3D board project I did.
Do you have any photos/video of your project? I would love to see it!
@@gaminggeek241 th-cam.com/video/B0C5LTDBW-E/w-d-xo.html
Have you checked out the new Wizkids Warlock tiles with the walls that slide in between the tiles?
I also went with the True Tiles and love them. If you are a DM that uses premade campaigns then this is the best to recreate maps exactly, if you are a DM that makes up your own dungeons than choose the tiles you like the most because it wont matter :)
So is there anywhere we can see your settings for the “the dragons rest” printing? Mine doesnt look nearly as good as yours 😊
I print at .2mm height on both my Prusa and Ender 5 to get those results. Everything else is stock settings. Hope that helps!
@@gaminggeek241 Ah cool! Mabye its just Because of the painting then, because i print at 0.2mm also 😊
Have you tried to print the tru-tiles with a larger 'Z' value to bring those walls up? I feel like they are also kinda bland. Obviously painting and dry brushing can make them look better.
No I haven't tried that although you propose a good solution. I found the tiles that work for me so no use for me to mod the Tru-Tiles.
Just wondering how much will it cost to print the Heroquest board (partial magnetised will do) Im thinking of investing in a 3D printer u c.... but need advise on the cost before diving in. Thanks for such a GREAT GREAT GREAT GGG channel! :)
If you watch Part 3 of my HeroQuest video, I share all the options for printing the board, from the cheapest to most expensive. My board cost about $300 to make, fully magnetized. Half of that was magnets.
@@gaminggeek241 USD right? just wanna get the estimate correct. :P
@@abelkok2391 Yes, USD.
looks quite COOL
@@abelkok2391 Your other comment with the Blitz Bowl board didn't post for some reason. I looked at Myth and Goal but passed because I feel like I don't need another football game. And I can't use my Blitz Bowl board with the game since the field is different--otherwise, I probably would have backed it.
Anyone know if Dragons Rest dungeon is still available? I don't see it in their shop and patreon simply says you get a discount in the shop.
Yes, it's available. When you become a patreon supporter, you use the code to access the Dropbox files.
@@gaminggeek241 Thanks, just trying to find some quality module tiles and it seems like the best for what I'm desiring.
ive had issues with the true tiles warping, do you have any suggestion on why that would be? Im using water washable elegoo resin on a eleggo mars 2 pro
You mean warping after or during the print? If after, you might want to add some layers to the tile. If you don't know how to do that, watch my video on how to use Microsoft 3D Builder to modify STL files.
@@gaminggeek241 would you be able link that video or the playlist its in i'm having trouble finding it
@@Eman-qv4kv Yup, th-cam.com/video/h2Ept7pH2bY/w-d-xo.html
For something like League of Dungoneers I would like to print Printable Scenery apart from the free sample what do you suggest I should purchase? Also is there a video on how to use magnets with Printable Scenary. Thanks
Really depends on what you want out of the options from Printable Scenery--do you want half-height walls or full? Curved walls? Styles? Yes, you can magnetize the clip but it requires two barrel magnets into each clip which will require a LOT of work. I would opt to just use the clips at that point, or only magnetize some of them. I would also meld pieces together so the tiles match with Dungeoneers, that way you are reducing the number of clips you need to use.
@@gaminggeek241 ok so what I might do then is start printing the starter set. I guess I can then re print just tiles and Walls to extend the footprint as ai wish. As you say I will then use mostly clips and magnetise some parts. I also took a look and Dragon Rest but just didn’t find any help guides to get started. Maybe I need to sign up first to get further access. Thanks for your help
@@gaminggeek241 I just seen your review of Dungeoneers and I have picked the tile set of Kraken Studios. Would be great if you can create a tutorial of which tiles you suggest to print for Dungeoneers . Thank you
@@njco78 Yeah, if you look at my video showcasing the Kraken tiles, you can see the ones I printed out to start off. Since the dungeon is randomly generated, if you draw a section you don't have, just redraw until you do and slowly build up your set. I would suggest starting off with printing 3 of each of the base rooms and hallways and then go from there.
@@gaminggeek241 I think the tricky part here is the Objectiver room 12x6 and the 6x6. I tried looking in the customer room files but I cannot see how these pieces could help.
For now I am doing Hallways 2x6 and a few 4x4 rooms which are available
Not seeing Game Decor InfinityLock Dungeonworks in this video saddens me. On the flip side, I hadn't heard of Dragon's Rest before. Decisions, decisions.
hi, one question, is it possible to magnetize the pieces of hirst arts? thanks
It is possible and I've done it but you have to place the magnets into the plaster while it is still wet. You also have to pay attention to polarity whereas with ball magnets, you don't need to worry about it since they swivel in place.
@@gaminggeek241 many thanks
What is the average time to print a wall or floor section?
I usually print a dozen walls at the same time and it takes about 8 hours on my Prusa MK3S printing at .2mm height and with 10% infill. Your mileage will vary based on your printer, settings, etc.
should i still use black pla even if i vanished the printed tiles?
No, you don't have to use black, especially if you have a coat of varnish to protect the paint.
I know this comment is late. But does anyone make a multi-level dungeon? I want to use it to make a shelf to display my miniatures and I want it to look like the cut out of castle or dungeon.
open forge is free. You got me right there.
I didn't really have time to watch the whole vid, but does he mention what printer he uses?
you mentioned a clip adapter for openlock and dragons rest. I cant find it. Does anyone know where to find it?
There isn't a clip that has Openlock on one side and Dragon's Rest on the other. It would be possible though to create your own--check out my tutorial on how to use Microsoft 3D Builder, a free program that lets you modify and create STL files.
@@gaminggeek241 Thanks. I misunderstood you then. Thanks for the tip
It does exist. I found it on thingiverse, and I'm pretty sure Fat Dragon Games actually released a version too to help folks integrate new purchases from their Dragonlock sets into existing tile collections. I think Devon Jones, the guy behind Openlock 2.0, also has a version.
Is The Dragon's Rest still the best after all these years? I just got into printing and was wondering if there are others that are better now.
I think so because it is super flexible and for $9, one of the cheapest options for a ridiculous amount of files. I like how you can configure any room and print it as one to lessen setup time. I just did a video on Dungeon Blocks, which is also a good system but takes a lot more filament to print and is harder to customize for fast setup.
@@gaminggeek241 Thanks for the info! I think I will go with Dragon's Rest then. I only have a Photon Mono 2 resin printer. I am going to be printing out dungeon tiles for months!
Does anyone have the site for the "Wizards" scenery items please? (Bookcases, etc)
You mean at the 6:20 mark of the video? That is part of Dragon's Rest patreon rewards - "Adventurer." Link in the descriptions.
@@gaminggeek241 Brilliant - Thank you. I've paid for Patreon, but failed to spot them. Thanks for the heads-up :) (Edit: Doh - Just looked in the 'GoU' section and found all the desks, bookcases etc - I need to learn to look.)
why not just get the stl files then pull them in to a program to change them back in to a step file or other file type that you can edit and make more types of tiles with corners? Also too open forge has a github that has the master file where it has everything in it.
Yep, I posted this video afterwards showing how to edit files easily: th-cam.com/video/h2Ept7pH2bY/w-d-xo.html
Dude. The tile-size of a 3D-printable dungeon tile set is an irrelevant topic of discussion. You can easily re-size anything in your slicer before printing. so if we want OpenLock tiles to be 1.25" across, or 1.5" or 2" or whatever, we can adjust that in seconds. That literally defeats any concern of wall tiles not leaving enough room on the space.
and now Kraken 3D Studio Dungeon Tiles (KSD) les modular than dragon'rest but with a lot of charm, combine large tiles and low wall but with something more evocating than TrueTile
Hi. Very good video, many thanks for sharing this. Cheers from France
Be nice if all the creators of dungeon maps, just made the walls the same thickness as a floor space to begin with. What I do is usually redraw the map to do this, but it is time consuming.
It’s unrealistic for walls to be that thin, so you deal with the realism of having the thickness of walls or deal with play mats
so... there was a whole lot of words just for me to learn to just make sure to compensate for the extra tile space
My recommendation is to avoid needing to compensate for the space which is why I suggested Dragon's Rest.
@@gaminggeek241 I get that. But I find if you find a tile set you like than it is easy enough to just compensate, but thank you for bringing this issue to our attention.
@@Munkman Definitely! What is your favorite set so far?
@@gaminggeek241 I'm trying to design my own :)
So three years later, what would you change? How would you get started in 2024?
Dragon's Rest is still my favorite but I also like Dungeon Blocks too.
Who says you need to use a grid, the average gamer can tell what 6 inches is and if they can't get a 6 inch pencil.
Do you think this video is still all true today? Or has another tile system came out that you like more?
The only one I would add to this list is Dungeon Blocks, which I've made a few videos about. But my favorite is still Dragon's Rest because of the sheer number of options and how cheap it is compared to Dungeon Blocks.
@gaminggeek241 awesome thank you! Love all your videos!
What is the purpose of these sets? D&D?
D&D, HeroQuest, Middara, Descent--basically any dungeon crawler.
Another method is dropping the grid system and turning movement and ranges to measured distances and using facing rules. When it comes to using physical terrain you're never going to get a 1 for 1 from the maps in the books.
On the whole I agree, but OpenForge has long since muscled up and said goodbye to the ugly brick monotony. Maybe it's time for a reconsideration?
I haven't looked at their stuff in a while--did they make a lot stylistic of changes?
So basically, if you print Open Forge in 125% it is pretty much the best of all?
Yes, that is a good option since it allows for more space for miniatures.
dungeons and lazer ?
That's a great option if you don't have a 3D printer. I know they are going to have another Kickstarter next month.
Great video, but I do feel you're putting a little too much emphasis on measure-by-square systems like 'D&D'. I think the 'D&D' Level-based system is one of the most flawed rules systems out there, there's way better available - from 'RuneQuest: Glorantha' to 'HârnMaster', 'HERO System/Fantasy Hero', 'GURPS', 'Battlelords of the 23rd Century', 'Mutants & Masterminds' and so many other RPGs. Most of them allow you to measure by inch. Once you pull out a ruler, squares that measure more than the standard 1" become a problem...
OpenForge seems cool but it's a real mess. The "tutorial" is so badly written it just complicate things, after 1 hour I'm still not sure what i should print between 25 different combination of connection styles and magnets.
your over thinking it.
tiles first than wall. wall are not important tiles are.
Then at that point, you might as well use cardboard tiles or a digital map and forego 3D printing all together. The whole point of a 3D map is the walls. That's why I don't like the True Tiles system--not enough wall. But different strokes for different folks.
@@gaminggeek241 luck for me, i have tinkercad, so i can fix thing for me
sure you might not see this, but im having a really hard time flinding the clips for the slim tiles... any suggestions on where it might be? you'd think it would just be included with the slim tiles EDIT- found them on myminifactory. looked everywhere in the paid files and couldn't find them anywhere
I can't remember the name of the folder, but all of the clips are together. I'll have to wait until I get home to check the name of it.