The BEST Spider-Man is really old
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When spectacular spiderman first came out the concept of peter being in highschool wasn't really repetitive at that point, and they were also planning on making him graduate highschool and go onto college. Imagine what they could of done if they actually were able to finish the show and then later made a new show with the character miles (yes i know he wasn't created at that point) and have peter be like a mentor to him
They were also going to make straight to dvd movies bout Peter’s college adventures and it would’ve shown the death of Gwen Stacey and Peter and MJ would’ve gotten closer and get married
@@thedeepchocolate8305 oh shit really? i mean i knew about gwen dying and peter getting married with mj but i didn't know they were going to make movies, damn thats fucked
@@thedeepchocolate8305 we got rob I would’ve love to see Peter and Mary Jane get married in the show
screw your stupid miles obsession , that character is so trash and one of the worst and most unnecessary characters to replace spiderman.
The comics never ended that's the problem
One of my favorite things about Peter B Parker is the way his experience is shown through self-awareness. Every Spider-Man story you can think of, he's done it. He's seen everything, to the point he's aware of the recurring "tropes" in his adventures
I Love how he’s the first Peter in the movie to call the plot device flash drive a “goober” bc he’s probably seen enough access keys or top secret data formats to give it universal name
@@BryMakesArt I think even Prime Peter called it that cause his Aunt May knew the term to. Guess its just based on experience
@@no.1spidey-fan182 Earth-1610 Peter did call it a goober.
Well i bet peter b parker never work together with other super heroes such as the avengers and the fantastic four like his 616 comic version
he's the GT goku of into the spiderverse, and i love it
Peter B. Parker was always one of my favorite versions of Spider-Man ever since I saw the movie in theaters back in 2018. I love how he gave off heavy father vibes to Miles and was also a huge comedy act. I love how he was able to change his ways and make things right with his MJ, which is something that I feel like Spider-Man tries to show most of the time, that no matter how many times he gets knocked down, he will always get back up and come back to make things right.
Yup and that he wasn't still just some dumb kid still after all this time
I wouldnt say he's my favourite as I prefer how PS4 handled things but he's defo up there high
This version of spiderman feels so earned.
Peter B. Parker is my favorite version because I can related to him the most.Sure I was a kid in high school too but I haven't been in a long time.
@@maineman5757 im a young adult and even can i relate to his mid life crisis struggles to an extent, because i know things wont always work out, they rarely do, i could see my own future self in him, the part where he lets himself go, making bad investments, and screwing up relationships, even after watching the movie i still feel unconfident in having children in the future(thinking im not good dad material, itll cost a lot, good neighborhood, etc.), im not like these spider-mans, im scared of the leap of faith, but after watching, i can be rest assured that if someday i do take a leap of faith in my life maybe taking the fall wasnt all that bad, ill just get back up again, maybe its true when they say if theres life theres hope. In this day and age a lot of young people like myself are compelled to grow up faster even though deep down we dont want to or some might regret wasting their younger years in the future for not having a bit of fun, i could confidently say i can relate or understand PBP struggles deeply.
I was really hoping for Tobey in no way home to show his wedding band or mention that he had a daughter, just to show after 14 years Peter continued to develop and get everything he wanted, a family
I think he alluded to it
i thought that the portals opened up directly after the events of their movies?
@@Donovanyesyeysysyeyes not exactly. For the villains, it was right before their deaths. For the Peters, that could be whenever (we know Andrew's was after TASM2 while tobey's could be far into the future)
@@Donovanyesyeysysyeyes Nope
@@Donovanyesyeysysyeyes Andrew mentioned that after a while he was a bitter and stopped pulling his punches and continued to keep being spider man, Tobey said that he and mj worked out but that’s about it. If it was right after it would be weird seeing Tobey’s Peter age 14 years while he’s suppose to be in his mid 20’s they would of had to de age him
My greatest issue with current 616 spiderman is that, they brought miles morales from the ultimate universe and yet they still won't let Peter grow up. It's crazy they have all the pieces in place where they can have their cake and eat it too. Give the high-school/immature stories to miles. AND let Peter mentor him and be a mature adult.
It because idiots at marvel are not think straight
EXACTLY. But stagnating Peter is ALSO DESTROYING Miles' character because all these rehashed current story lines would actually be NEW for Miles as long as they werent overdone before like the Clone Saga for example
@@no.1spidey-fan182 I agree to an extent because I haven't read the clone saga yet. Everything else I 100% agree with you on.
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Isn’t 616 Peter like 40? Or was that retconned
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Yep.
Same
Okey and?
@@garka6135 Shut up kid my dad is bill gates XD
@@garka6135 he doesn't know before
If you want a story about a Peter Parker who ages and goes through a lot of changes throughout his life, I'd really recommend reading Spider-Man: Life Story (even though you probably already have if you're reading the comments on this video). The basic premise of the book is to explore what Peter's life would've been like if his history in the main comics universe happened in real-time instead of Marvel time, beginning with him as a teenager in the 1960s, and ending with him as an old man in the 2010s. It's one of the best Spider-Man comics ever made, and the ending made me cry.
It was the best comic ever
This comic was so good but it also made sad for quite a while 😢
Sounds noice ,so the comic is not part of the Marvel universe.Spider man is basically the only hero in that world?
@@dude9318 It doesn't take place in *the* Marvel comics universe, but it does take place in *a* Marvel comics universe. So there are other heroes in the story (who also age in real-time), and they do end up playing a somewhat significant role in the story, particularly in issues like the 2000s one.
@@EnvyOmicron thats pretty cool actually.More comics need to do it .Its boring if the characters never die or get older
Spidey's character could be taken as wine. His young version is made to be liked by everyone, but his older and more aged version will always be more appreciated by connoisseurs and long time fans. Cheap wine will always make more sales.
Exactly!!!!
Traditional spiderman isnt like cheap wine
@@smolltaco5667 i dont get you. traditional spiderman is the aged one? or the always-teenager type?
while the more expensive wine is always left behind because the cheap stuff is always the same
This is the exact reason I loved Toby’s Spider-Man so much in NWH, he felt so dignified as a hero even after being gone for so many years. While Andrew Garfield was the Amazing Spider-Man, Toby definitely felt like the Ultimate Spider-Man, even though he had back problems 😅.
Yes, finally. Someone who sees Tobey Maguire as the Ultimate Spider-Man.
They probably took inspiration from spiderverse as the movie was inspired by it.
@@GladwinAbel I love that they took inspiration from spiderverse but they actually made it it's own unique movie. They could have so easily just copied a lot of story beats from the spiderverse. That sort of logic of "well, it worked for them, so let's just copy what they did" that you see so often in hollywood. But I was pleasantly surprised! The only thing those movies have in common is the multiverse, apart from that they are two very distinct films.
I cannot believe nobody’s mentioned how perfectly cast this role is (!!) Jake Johnson is absolutely stunning in the role, his voice acting brings the perfect mix of weariness and matter-of-fact tone. Especially in the scene where they’re eating burgers - “baby powder in the joints“- to be fair, everyone’s voice acting in this movie was perfection, but Jake was the best, imo. Did not know I needed this SpiderMan till I got it.
Agreed
He is 37 years old. He got bitten by a spider when he was 15 and he was the only spider-man for the last 22 years. Which from the point where he was bitten by the spider or possibally when he became known as Spider-man. So 15 years plus another 22 years of being spider-man, he is 37 years of age at the point of him meeting Miles in Into the spider-verse.
That's assuming his being 15 when he became Spider-Man in the comics applies to the movie. From my understanding, he's either 38 or 39. Blonde Peter is stated to have been Spider-Man for 10 years, and his gravestone reads 1991-2018, meaning he was going to turn 27, so he must've begun his career at 17. Assuming Peter B. Parker became Spider-Man at the same exact age, he must be 39 because he has been fighting crime for 22 years.
@@CouncilCape897 He's 38 since the dead Peter started at 16. Peter's birthday is usually in August.
@@joshheralal8758 And yet, his birth and death dates on his tombstone indicate he was going to turn 27 that year. He simply died at 26 before his 27th birthday. That's why I conclude he was 17 when he became Spider-Man, given his 10 years fighting crime, and that Peter B. Parker is 39 assuming he became Spider-Man at the same age.
But nowhere in the film is it stated his birthday is in August. It's true that the character debuted in August in the real world, but it doesn't necessarily apply to this movie or any other adaptation as Peter's birth month. Even the comics themselves explicitly state Peter is a Libra, so he canonically wasn't born in August.
According to the director of the film, Blond Peter became Spider-Man at 16, while Peter B Parker became Spider-Man at 15
@@joshheralal8758Different universes, different birthdays
I 100% agree with everything you said. I am 19 aswell and seeing an older peter doesn't bother me at all. And, as you said, the problem isn't necessarily the fact that he's young or old, but it's the fact that Marvel is scared to let Spider-man grow as a character that's ruining a lot of stories.
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I'm 19 as well and I agree 💯. I think having Peter be older keeps things fresh and seeing Peter B accepting change at the end of ITSV and being a dad in ATSV was just perfect. Also, I just don't understand why everyone hates Tom Hollands Spiderman. Is it Nostalgia for Tobey and Andrew because I liked them too and i like Toms version. I just don't get it.
The adult mentor role really freshens up the character, it reminds me of another video I saw about how Damion Wayne freshened up Batman as a “more direct” father role than some of his protejas, the mentor role is a good way to show off some character’s growth and wisdom
It is it happen with his daughter she learn all the wisdom and knowledge from her father along side mile
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@@jacobrivera1721 Then she continues the legacy and mantle of Spider-Man by becoming Spider-Girl.
Spider-man can climb a wall, but he can't climb a flight of stairs. Ironic.
I think if The Amazing Spider-Man series was well received, and were actually close towards the 1960s run during his college career, or even being something similar to insomniacs adaption. I think we could of had a mature and established Spider-Man/Peter Parker being introduced in the MCU from Civil War, which is where the homecoming trilogy were around Miles Morales perspective, and Pete being the Tony Stark of his films since in his first run ( in which you've mentioned ) was about being his own hero.
Meaning Tobey Maguire's or Andrew Garfield's Peter COULD have been the MCU's Spidey? Like they had thought about?
I would have liked to have seen more of Andrew's story after high school
@@maddenboseroy4074 they originally were
@@larryfoulkeofficial8609 That's what I meant.
@@maddenboseroy4074 no I mean they were almost a part of the mcu
Peter Burrito and PS4 Peter are my absolute favorite interpretations of Spider-Man: Peter B. is jaded and tired, which, you know, big mood, but still strives to do the right thing despite everything, as well as being willing to learn new things from Miles; PS4 Peter meanwhile is the modern version of Tobey's take, and Yuri Lowenthal fucking kills it in the acting department.
Spiderman tnas peter and 1970s spiderman tv show were college kids, Spiderman ps1 was a married adult, i love when Peter is older.
Peter B, Parker is also my favorite I just love him he’s already been through so much and all the stories
I do find it ironic that blonde Pete and Peter B take from certain aspects of Tobey when it comes to their backgrounds and then No Way Home takes a page from Spider-Verse and Tobey ends up being a bit of a mix between the two. Around 2 decades older, clearly experienced enough to mentor and inspire his younger selves and the only one who sort of achieved his happy ending, in that we don't know the full scope of what goes on back in his world.
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Solid breakdown. As an older Spidey fan (closer to Peter B than any other version), a couple of things:
1) in my favorite animated take on Spidey, the 90s cartoon, Peter was in college. I don't remember you mentioning that in your vid, but I was always grateful it wasn't a teen drama.
2) Spidey does graduate HS in the Tobey&Andrew Garfield versions, we just haven't seen him progress beyond that in live action. But saying he never does isn't technically true.
3) Others have mentioned it in the comments already, but both Spider-Man: Reign and Life Story play with the idea of Peter aging realistically since the 60s. Life Story does it better.
And also, be kind to us old-heads, Peter B is *not* in his 50s! Like early 40s at the oldest, sheesh!
Lol at the sheesh. All u r points are really good.
That's why I have so much love for Insomniac's variation of Spider-Man.
He has a Job with fellow mentor/antagonist while still dealing with the struggles of being Spider-Man and carrying on that "Responsibility" .
It's the whole reason why I love the ps4 peter so much. Hes an adult and hes experienced, which is a breath of fresh air in turns of spiderman adaptations
“When was the last time you saw Peter Parker graduate?”
During the first Sam Rami Spider-Man movie and during TASM 2.
Right… but any more than that? My point is that we don’t see it happen very often
is no one gonna talk abt the thug that got stuck in 6:09
I think the thing that makes Spider Man so appealing is that Peter is constantly putting others before himself, even to the cost of himself, and throughout that, you feel bad for Peter. We look up to Spidey and a lot of heroes because they do the right thing, not what's in their best interest.
Juxtaposed to that, we have Peter B Parker, who we finally see the wear and tear being a hero can really do to a man, and how unaccomplished one can still feel even if they're doing something noble. Sometimes the human spirit doesn't want to do it. It's a refreshing take and one you can sympathize with.
I think one of my favourite things about Peter B. Parker is the reaction to MJ wanting kids. When you hear the tone in his voice when he mentions it, you can tell that he isn't against the thought. He's not scared of having kids. He's scared FOR the kids.
In a world full of supervillains and menaces, and even those like Carnage, if they find out about the children, they would be in extreme danger, especially at a young age.
But after Peter mentors miles, practically being another father figure, he understands how much important it really is to be close to the girl he wants to protect and motivates him to get back up and swing away from the void. It gives him a chance to talk to MJ again, because by the end of it, he's ready.
He may not know what the future holds if he gets back with her to start a family. But it's like he and Miles both said: *It's a leap of faith.*
I love Peter B Parker. I hope the next Spider-Man film takes inspiration from him, such a sad yet comedic character.
Also Spider-Man TNAS is my favorite Spider-Man series and I'd love to hear you talk about it more.
Yeah TNAS kicks ass i have it on dvd
@@The_Blue_Otaku Same here, definitive cut of the series.
@@himynameiskobey.7994 I've had my dvd copy since i was around 4 or 5 lamo
6:15 This is exactly a problem I have with a lot of “Peter and Miles” adaptations. People want Tom’s Spider-Man to meet Miles… but Tom’s Spider-Man doesn’t even know who he is. MCU Spidey is about as clueless as Miles, he can’t teach him how to be Spider-Man because he himself doesn’t know how to become Spider-Man.
I think PS4 Spider-Man and Into the Spiderverse’ Spider-Man are great stories about Peter and Miles because Peter is actually older than Miles and knows a thing or two about a thing or two. You can’t have Peter and Miles interact with each other if Miles is the same age as Peter. In fact, they’re not supposed to interact at all if Peter is alive, but since writers want these two to meet for some reason instead of Miles just learning how to be Spider-Man by himself, then I’d say just don’t make Miles Spider-Man until Peter is in his 30’s and has a complete arc.
6:53 This too.
One of the things DC’s done right recently is the relationship between Clark and his son John Kent, seeing a man who can do almost anything struggle to be a father, struggling to make time for the world and his son, now imagine a Spider-Man story with Peter, a man who’s already dealt with losing relationships to his dedication to saving others have it happen to him again, but it isn’t a friend or employer, but his own son, it could open up a new world of story telling
Yeah pretty much. 2018 was a magical year for me as a Spider-Man fan. Peter and MJ got back together in the comics marking the end of Dan Slott's era, Insomniac Games came out with an incredible Spider-Man game with a very promising adaptation of Spider-Man, and Spider-Verse giving me the literal best version of Peter Parker I have ever seen. Life has never reached that high since. Peter and MJ aren't together anymore in the comics (typical comics), but at least in 2023, I will see both Insomniac's Peter and Spider-Verse's Peter B. again.
modern comics arent written for long time fans but only for the people that just got into that hobby. Thats why nothing ever changes in the long run.
That. Was. Beautiful.
Seriously, I had never given thought to this idea, especially since until Mephisto, Spidey never did fall down the stairs: the original run saw Spidey through high school, college, and young adulthood. Additionally, some people end up learning the same life lesson over and over again, and if you read the original comics, that's exactly what happened to Spidey - not very different than what the MCU did.
I've always wanted to know when did 616 Spidey began regressing. Was it One More Day that began this?
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6:53 I agree, I feel like miles’, whole character exists in part to be Peter’s successor and pick up the mantle, not just another spider person swinging around Brooklyn / New York.
6:31 something happened here
OMG I'm so happy to see a video finally giving Peter b parker the love and praise he deserves. Peter.b has been one of if not my favourite version of spider man in so long. The way the spider verse team mastered a broken and emotional man you can sympathies with as well as everything else this movie did perfectly! Thanks for finally giving him attention.
You were so right. He literally said in Across the spiderverse that the reason he had Mayday was because of Miles.
YEAHH
Indeed . I watched it too. I literallly crying
Marvel, just let Peter Parker age already. Or better yet, let him grow and actually stick with it.
Also, that was a fierce battle against the thug stuck in the car.
I love the way Tobeys Peter was portrayed because he was in high school for about 20% of his first movie
I'm also 19 and I can say Ive always enjoyed when peters in college or older its just is more enjoyable to me
Peter B. Parker was my favorite part of Spiderverse.
That's one of my favorite things about the universes where he isn't a kid, they can tell some of his best stories because he's an adult with adult issues. Web of Shadows, Spider-Man ps4, the 90s series. They all have him being either late university or an actual full adult just trying to make a go of being Spider-Man while also trying to keep Peters life together. It's less structured and more real, and has better stories and lessons to be had that almost always get left off the table. I hate that they keep resetting him and many other of my favorite characters, just to tell the same story again. Growth is good, and real. They are so worried it won't make as much money that they won't even try it, despite us seeing time and again that the superhero fan age is increasing and the appeal is most certainly there for older characters with rich adult lives, kids, etc. I would kill for a series with Peter and MJ having their child May, and the way he has to navigate that while being Spider-Man dealing with a baby, small child, teenager, etc, maybe with her eventually becoming Spider-Girl or whatever.
Many comic versions of Spider-Man are also a lot older. I prefer them to the movie ones
One of my most memorable Spider-Man runs was in House of M where Peter was a 40+ year old celebrity since everyone knew he was Spider-Man. But Wanda altered his origin story to make him secretly a mutant. So he got exposed and had to deal with a tarnished reputation which also affected his relationship with his wife MJ
It was an amazing run
Didn't Peter marry Gwen and have a son Richard with her in house of M?
@@astrobat1638 Yep
PS4 Spider-Man did Peter Parker really well.
And the relationship between Miles and Peter in those games is amazing
What they forgot is young people also want reassurance that they can grow and be ok when they get older. That's why characters need to grow with their audience. That young peter is there, people can go back and watch it.
I LOVE MTV Spider-Man, I just re watched after like 9 years when it traumatized me when I was 4, what can I say, I'm a sucker for the grittier stuff! Love your videos your great man, keep up the amazing work bro!
All right people, let’s do this one more time. My name is Nick and I am a life long fifty year old Spidey-Fan. I’ve had this very sentiment for many a year and in my humble opinion ‘Spiderverse’ was a work of genius and Peter B.Parker was a revelation. You nailed it! You wanna know what happens next? Me too! Excelsior!
As time is going on, I had grown up with the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man for quite a long time. And during that time, i’d say it was the most happiest time of my life because it was just fucking great but when I do you look at current Spider-Man with hindsight, I do believe that there are issues with Peter staying young forever because the problem is, I’m not gonna be young forever people people who love Spider-Man are not gonna stay young forever so keeping him young would be an issue because it’s gonna be the same plot over and over and that’s not gonna be appealing anymore. I even had a discussion about this a long while back that young Peter Parker isn’t great forever. I always thought Toby would be the oldest of the bunch but now he’s just barely coming out of college himself.
Then when Spider-Verse Peter B. Parker first came to screen and I instantly love the concept and character because it’s something I in so many other Spider-Man fans have been wanting. A Spider-Man who matures with time. He is supposed to be the every man hero and to reflect that, he can have every man problems. To hear that the most influential writer of Spider-Man thinks the only way to keep him appealing is to keep them young is very arrogant if I may say. As you said though, the mirror existence of Peter B Parker debunks that entirely and I couldn’t agree more. Having characters age and grow can work a lot in their development and can ultimately creates probably more memorable characters than what they were originally.
Exactly I agree with that
Yep💯
On the note of Peter and MJ always breaking up, while it was briefly mentioned, I would like to give some more details on a specific circumstance. That deal that Peter made with Mephisto was to save the world. The ONLY stipulations to this deal were that time would be rewound to just before Peter and MJ got together (their memories included) and that Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson could never be together. For the entire rest of the storyline Peter and MJ were still super in love with each other, but just couldn't bring themselves to admit their feelings to each other because of the curse. Right near the end of the storyline MJ finally admits to Peter that she loves him, except at this point Peter's mind had been switched with a decrepit old and dying Otto Octavious. Of course, because the writers hate us and Peter's happiness, Otto goes along with it and takes MJ to pound town JUST TO CUCK PETER! After that, Peter appeals to Ottos morals to save the day and then DIES!
Tobey at that perfect age for a older spider man story. The problem is there's not that many good Oldman spider man stories out there.
Godzilla mendoza made a pretty good point with how Peter's life is basically stuck in an endless loop and how certain stories like one more day really ruin any potential growth for him as a character, this video is also pretty good when it explains about how a older Peter is the best Peter narratively speaking
Speaking as someone who's read the first 9 issues of ASM Vol. 6 (and thinks it's fairly average so far), it's worth pointing out that the time skip at the start is only 6 months, and MJ's kids look like they're at least a few years old, *and* they have her and Peter's hair colors. We still don't know what the deal is with these kids, or why her and Peter aren't together, or even what happened prior to the time skip. For all we know, the kids could somehow be her's and Peter's.
I'm not thrilled about them being broken up again, especially since they just got back together only a few years ago, but if the book does something interesting with these ideas and tells an engaging story it might be worth it.
Or it could crash and burn and become a total dumpster fire. We'll have to wait and see I guess.
It feels like Peter is being cucked by a Lor-Zod version of himself.
I would personally love a Spider-Man show where peter is older and has new villains and allies
Renew Your Vows comics are the closest you're gonna get. Best Spidey comics of this era
4:49 Now I'm reminded why I now prefer Peter/MaryJane *fanfics* over the actual comics.
He's around 38 years old in the movie.
"really old" 🤣 good video but thats something a teenager says
The one thing that Peter B Parker brings out, that most of us can relate to, is realism. The fact that his environment and world is constantly growing and changing and he does the same. Like any other human being, his character grows and learns through a long process of relationships and his past experiences as spiderman and as himself when he has the chance to be. Honestly, he's more relatable than most spider men in the MC Universe or at least from alternate universes.
To be Fair Peter B. Parker is from Earth 616.
@@chrispilcher2024 is a version of hims if Mephisto and one more day never happened
In comics, it will always be that the character rolls back, and the main problem with the leadership of the marvel comics is that they don’t give new writers to Spider-Man, and guys like Dan Slott, Zeb Wells are tired of Spider-Man,i believe that spiderman comics can be given life again,because the hulk could be refreshed in the immortal hulk series,donny cates expanded the venom mythology
One of the best things about Peter B that I liked is when he interrupted Miles. Like how he was sick and tired of hearing the great powers great responsibility quote. It represents a naive yet hopeful version of Peter that he's lost due to age. Now he's older, cynical, wiser. He hasn't forgotten the motto. He's just tired of it.
This is why Peter in Spider-Man ps4 was the bomb
Then they turned him into Tom holland
I never really put any thought to him until now and you're so right. Peter B. Parker's spiderman is actually such a lovable character that for once I REALLY want to see what he's like as a character out of his prime teenage to early adult years. The way you described him really touched me
I really like this analysis... Kudos!!
YAY I AM SO HAPPY U MADE A VIDEO ABOUT PETER B HE IS SUCH AN AMAZING CHARACTER!!!! Thank you so much 😁👍
This video aged super well now that across the spider-verse is out.
I think it’s because they’re working up to it. Because older Spider-Man is best friends with Deadpool & with the multiverse thing & Miles Morales being brought up more now I have a feeling they’re moving Peter Parker up to Deadpool level & pushing Miles to take the role of high school Spider-Man.
that’s why i like marvels spider-man, he’s not in college but still is one of the best adaptations of him
Swinging around with JMS/Romita Jr. Peter at the beginning was a nice touch.
It was very intentional 😉 I did it to reference the new run
And now we have Peter raising that baby and taking her on his adventures lol. But yea its nice to have something new
Another issue with the constant resets is that it leads to adding new things to make the origin era of the character different.
- TASM incorporated a mystery plot about Peter’s parents and corporate secrets to make it less of a rehash of the Raimi movie. They could still include the focus on Peter’s abandonment issues with his parents, but not have to integrate it into the spider bite.
- MCU had Peter sort of become Tony’s protege (except we never really see or hear anything of them interacting outside of the scenes they’re in together), he has multiple teched out suits, his best friend learns his identity immediately, Aunt May finds out and is just cool with it (implied messy conversations aren’t enough). An underlying issue of MCU itself is the lack of consequences. While they do occasionally have consequences present, there’s plenty more instances of these things happening that should have big impacts to the world that just don’t happen. The Sokovia accords stopped being relevant halfway through Civil War, Wakanda opening it’s doors to share its technology hasn’t had any impacts outside of one joke in Infinity War, Aunt May finding out doesn’t lead to a massive conflict between her and Peter, etc. In the end, everything just goes back to normal with the implication that things have changed when they haven’t.
I’ve always had this little idea of how different the MCU would have been if Tony recruited Peter when he was in College and he’s been active as Spider-man for about 2 years (maybe even a soft reboot of TASM with Andrew Garfield coming back to the character still grieving over Gwen). It would give him more experience, skip over the origin (properly), and add more justification to Tony recruiting Peter into the fight. And then imagine if Peter never got dusted in Infinity War. The time jump would allow for his rogues gallery to be expanded on without entire movies dedicated to introducing them. It could also open the door to Miles being introduced with enough of an age gap for Peter to be like a parental mentor.
Honestly impressed w this interpretation, awesome job man
Excellent video, I've been really enjoying your content lately
2:55 I don’t remember this scene in spiderverse
It's a fan animation
6:53
I don't mind them being bros or father and son since I love both those dynamics about Peter and Miles. But hey that's just my opinion and if you disagree with me that's fine
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Very well thought out and said. Every single word of it.
Personally, my favourite interpretation is Insomniac Spider-Mqn, that may be unpopular but I really enjoy it. His dynamic with miles, his experience level, his understanding of his responsibilities, his conflicts, his humour and his relatablilty, love it. Peter B Parker is fantastic, shares alot of these aspects with INSOMNIAC spiderman and is my 2nd favourite, but for me Insomniac spiderman slight edges him out.
What a beautiful video man! Good job. Also Peter B. Parker is my fav version of Peter too.
That's what I've been talking about for years! Great video. Point made. Thank you!
Yeah I'm kinda tired of Spidey being in high school. We've seen it done a million times and I'm just ready for someone to actually make him grown and older. Peter Parker needs to grow as a person whereas still keeping his youthful charm. That's why I love the Insomniac game so much because of how they made Peter an adult who has been Spider-Man for 8 years; making the story fresh. I get it, his origins are always near and dear to everyone but gosh, we have so many other stories left to tell like Kraven's Last Hunt or Spider-Man Blue. Hopefully MCU Spider-Man can do justice.
4:05
Tom of course has out of character choices but ps4 spiderman???
Explanations anyone?
Amazing video man, loved it!
4:29 baby actually did make it
But Goblin took it somewhere
And probably aged up
3:25 correct if i'm wrong but you sound about 14?? no way you're old enough to have seen all of rocky unless you're just assuming people of your own age haven't watched it but you're an exception. cool video btw!!
Peter b Parker isn’t forty or fifty. He is 38.
basically 40 💀
@@mon3m999 40-5o means late 40’s. Not late 30’s. :/
@@TheParagonIsDead right right my bad lol
One of the best reviews. AWESOME!
I hope we get a live action Spiderverse movie with Peter B. Parker
It really feels like more and more fans are finding the same issue with the mainstream comics penchant for setting back Peter. I don't think Peter has made any meaningful progress as a character since the mid-90s.
To be fair JMS the writer of One More Day never wanted to break up Pater and MJs marriage, and editorial led by Joe Quesada enforced the anti Peter MJ stories
Man, this was such an interesting video and look into Spider-Man. I was wondering why I wasn't connecting with Spider-Man as much as I used to and now I know why. Thanks!
Great video! Ever since Tom Holland's spiderman I've been waiting for a post high school one. I still enjoy young spidey stories but it's getting old. Peter B Parker is my favourite on screen Spider-Man for that very reason. Also yeah,
Marvel give the guy a break.
I’d argue that Peter in high school is very important as it’s not the age that matters, it’s seeing the journey of a young amateur hero grow into a seasoned veteran and like it or not if we first MCU Spider-Man in college rather than high school that journey wouldn’t feel that satisfying which is why MCU Peter is probably going to have a much better story compared to Tobey’s and Andrew’s combined. Peter B Parker is my favorite Spidey but I think he would work a lot better if we saw his slow downfall instead of just a quick montage.
The problem is that when you do it slowly you make it more dumber and dumber in movie form. In tv form you can get away with that because you can mix simple episode with big episodes. With movies, particulary trilogies, every movie has to be big and each sequels has to represent an organic steap on character development than doing the same mistakes and learning the same lessons like a home alone/ ghostbusters/ jurrasic park sequel. Look at the how to train your dragon trilogy in each instalment hicup learn something diferent in each and literally become a mature adult at the end of his journey, Tom holland spiderman repeat the same mistakes in each movie (including the avengers crossovers) to stay in the same position that he was in square one, only this time with no training wheels. I don't give a shit that it was a slow burn or that it was "all planed" (i mean does that mean the vulture and scorpion will come back with morbing time and coockie monster venom?) Him learning about responsability should have beeing movie ONE not movie 3 (or crossover 4 i don't know im getting sick of cinematic universes). Thats why i will never seeing him better than tobey or andrew because least they knew their foundation better than him even if their sequels blew them up.
3:51 lmao
The main point I got from watching this is something I hope more people also see. We need to see all of the heroes we idolized growing up, in tv shows comics and movies alike, meet and train their replacements. So we can then see more relatable and humanistic sides of the characters in question.
Great analysis bro
I haven't read the recent comics but..
MJ HAD KIDS WITH ANOTHER GUY????
Someone fire these writers
im pretty sure hes always in highschool bc its his schtick, when he was created, the idea was that hes a superhero, who is also under age, but not a "boy wonder" or a sidekick, i agree that its played out and overdone, but this is 100% the reason why he is the way he is
Exactly I don't get why some Spidey fans don't understand this, Spidey was the Literally First teenaged superhero in a time when most people his age were sidekicks, if it wasn't for Spidey, other independent teenaged heroes like Static wouldn't exist, instead you'd have the sidekick versions of their characters in their place.
Just because he started out in highschool doesn’t mean we need to see it everytime, it’s not his shtick it’s supposed to be just the tip of the iceberg of his character and most of the essential stuff happens when he is out of highschool.
It’s like saying Dick Grayson being Batman’s sidekick is his whole character trait when it’s supposed to a arc he grows out of and becomes his own man.
@@chrispilcher2024you clearly missed the whole point of the character
Just because he started out being the first teenaged solo hero doesn’t mean it’s his defining character trait nor do we need to see it everytime, it represents to be just small tip of the iceberg of the character, Stan Lee literally had him graduate in just 28 issues…
If Spider-Man never grew out of highschool and was essentially just Peter Pan, we wouldn’t never have any of his iconic side characters and stories existing because all of that happened when Peter went to college.
Fantastic video Kai. I like your assertion that Miles should be like a son to Peter, but I disagree based on one example: the PlayStation games. They work well as brothers in that context I think, but I also think that Insomniac's Peter is a much more complete character than most adaptations.
This is a amazing video (you so good with web slinging your good at gathering momentum)
1:45 it depends
1:52 Do... do you think people in high school don't swear...
Obviously, I’m talking about how usually these shows are only kid friendly. 🤦♀️
@@amazingpsm Yeah, that was obvious now I think about it 😂🙈
Great video man
I think this may be your most well written video.
I can't believe I ever hated the mtv spiderman it's so good.