Dodge Ram 3500 Exhaust Mod
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- Doing an exhaust mod for a buddy with a 2008 Dodge Ram 3500 Cummins diesel.The info center was showing a DPF full see dealer message,to get rid of that problem we decided the most economical way (not necessarily the easiest way) for the time being to gut the DPF , DOC and catalytic converter as I have all the tools,welder,plasma cutter etc. This will not only get rid of the message coming up and causing the truck to go into a reduced power state, but will also enable the installation of a Bully Dog GT tuner to do the deletes.The hardest part was to remove the platinum out of the cat in the turbo down pipe,without owning a hammer drill with a chisel I wouldn't attempt to gut it and just leave it or install an aftermarket turbo down pipe instead.
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This is the best exhaust delete video on TH-cam!!! I've spent the last 3 days researching and learning everything I could about this system... with the exact same idea to do this to my truck in the exact same way!!!!
So THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH... for making such a detailed video showing me exactly what I'm going to be in for!!! This was really awesome!!!
One thing I am still wondering though... if all the censors are working fine... and left in place... if all you did was hollow out the junk... would you even have to actually run a delete tuner?
Did you test this theory before hand and get engine codes? Or just hook the tuner up straight away?
Thank you!! Glad this will help you with your delete! Yes you need the delete tuner installed as the DPF pressure sensors would give a code once the system is hollowed out. The delete tuner will disable all the sensors.
I just hooked up the tuner after the delete straight away before starting the engine.
@@photocontrol awesome. Thank you
What would it do if you did program it and just let it run through normal def mode ?
Running the delete program would disable the regen process.
Is needed to bought the Gt bully dog tuner. Or I can do it without the
And all the cars and trucks on the road have that crap. You have done the best thing you could have to free up the exhaust.
I did the same thing with a drill and then beat the pieces into dust, then vacuumed it all out.
Good you kept it looking stock, so upon a visual inspection, they will let you go. If they see it missing, its ticket time.
Definitely a good idea. Looks stock to visual inspection plus the DPF being that big and empty it acts like a muffler so it definitely is quieter than a full straight pipe!
Yes that's true it's not as loud as a full straight pipe would be.
Hey man awesome video for any USA mates wondering in my state NV we have visual smog inspections as long as you don’t have a check engine light and your emission equipment is intact your hood to go so this is the only method you can do to you truck to get away with smog. I have a 17 67 Cummins with ezlink trans tunes ect. I bought a 4’ flo pro dpf delete pipe but didn’t wanna hassle swapping the dpf every year so gutted the stock and shoved a 4’ pipe through it and got the egr valves welded shut. Only way to pass hassle free
Thank you! Good info on how you are able to pass hassle free in your state!
Only areas that require smog in Nevada are Washoe county and Clarke county. Glad I live in Lyon county!
Looks and sounds terrific, thanks for sharing! Keep them coming, 👍💖
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I’ve been looking for the exact video. Thank you for posting
Awesome! Glad the video is helpful!
Great video showing exactly what I would do if I still had a shop . I’m going to try to find somebody to do this . ( loved your “hinge” idea . )
You are very skilled , Thankyou
Any chance you are near Calgary & would do this job on my 2015. 3500?
Thank you!
@@brianrussell9419 Unfortunately I'm not in the Calgary area, I'm in Abbotsford, B.C.
It cost my Brother $2500.00 to have his replaced. I have had one clogged up. I took it off and took a weed burner to it, once the oil is in it took my shop vac and blew air into it. I then becomes a blast furnace. It cleans it right up. Saved me $2500
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I love you Canadians always doing cool sh!t thanks for the video, very informative.
Thanks Gregory! Glad you enjoyed it!
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You do very well with that mig welder. 👍
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Should have just bought the aftermarket exhast going from big to small big to small pipe makes you lose power
Not really as back pressure is a real thing and diesels really on pressure to run effectively
Hello Photocontrol,
Hey, I'd like to tell you I concur with many others who have said that this is a great video. I followed what you did list night and gutted my system. Let me add a warning: wear protective clothing so that you don't start itching from the fiberglass that is inside the units.
Okay, so now mine are completely cleaned out and I only have to find a local welder to weld up the stainless steel can. And, I also now have to figure out how to fool the computer into thinking the system has not been "repaired". In the U.S., as you know, apparently, it is so illegal to get a delete tuner, no one will sell them at a reasonable price. AND, my truck is 1 mile away from a derate. What to do? I'm weighing my options but I may not know all of them "my options, that is).
Hello Ralph, yes true there is particles during the gutting procedure that can be irritating. Sounds like you are making good progress with your delete. That is true, one of the issues is that it's hard to get a full delete tuner in the U.S. and expensive. In Canada they are still available, online stores most likely will not ship to the U.S. though, it is handy if you have a Canadian relative that can receive it and send it to you.
Great video..how the heck is a diesel suppose to function like that
I know right?! Diesels need to breathe! So much restriction choking the exhaust reducing horsepower.
The easiest way to Gut cats and Dpfs is with a 1 inch hollow pipe and hammer it in way faster than drilling.
Good to know! Thanks for sharing!
photocontrol Yup
Excellent
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Hey photocontrol. this is cool and thanks. Could you please tell me if you had already installed the dpf delete and egr deletes BEFORE you did this. Or did you do this and then do the EGR and DPF deletes. And if I do this BEFORE I do the deletes, will it throw crazy codes on me. I want to do this part on my own, and then give it to the shop to do, so I'm wondering if it's detrimental to drive it with DPF, cat after tuning, or if it's dangerous to drive it just a bit after having done this, but prior to deletion? Thanks.
Hey Scott, after all the emissions stuff was gutted/deleted on the exhaust system, the tuner was installed in the truck before starting or driving again. If you want to install the tuner "before" deleting, then you can indicate when prompted that the emissions systems are still in the truck and it will be like using the "street legal" version of the BullyDog tuners that are not emissions delete capable. I believe... but could be wrong that the street legal HP gains are not quite as high as the HP gains available for complete delete. Once you do the deletes then reprogram the tuner so that when you are prompted by the tuner if emissions are deleted then you indicate "yes", this way once you start the truck after deletes it would be like all the CAT & DPF were never there (sensors disabled). You would need the tuner installed/programmed before you can drive the truck after deletes otherwise I'm sure there will be crazy codes and possibly limp mode as well. -Darren
Great job
Thank you!
Attaboyeee, get all that junk out from there !
Great video and clean work. Not only does this emissions junk increase maintenance cost, reduce engine performance, and longevity - it makes fueling with biodiesel a bad option!
The DPF system works by injecting excessive into the cylinders on the down-stroke. This unburned fuel theoretically goes into the exhaust system to raise temperatures and aid in burning the particulates.
Biodiesel has a higher burn temperature so it doesn't burn in the exhaust & causes washout of the cylinders and raises oil levels in the crank case.
Tell me that's not a convenient way to kill the biodiesel industry! If the EPA & governments really cared for the environment, they'd mandate ENGINE efficiency improvements from the manufacturers and Biodiesel would be available at every gas station!
Biodiesel has higher lubricity decreasing engine wear, is carbon neutral, locally sourced and burnd cleaner than petrol oil.
I suspect OPEC & currupt politicians (both Dems & Reps) are to blame for this ineffective and expensive emissions junk. Add some expensive, failure prone equipment to a vehicle making it 10-20% less efficient in the name of environment?!
I'm calling foul play & BS....
Thank you! Well said!
Or you could just get 300$ mbrp exhaust and call it done and get ur performance back
Just need the EGR off now!
Yep that will need to be done as well!
What tuner are you using exactly? Someone told me I have to buy one of $1200 tuners to do this becuase the bully dog gt was incapable of it. How did you make this work?
This one is the Bully Dog GT Plus DFP delete tuner, that is correct that you would have to buy the $1200 one as the cheaper "street legal" version Bully Dog GT tuner (model 40410) is incapable of deletes. This one is the GT Plus 40428. A link here for more info: www.dieseladdict.ca/bully-dog-gt-plus-dpf-delete-programmer/
H&S mini maxx tuner will do deletes for $680
@@phillipwright746 do you have a website link?
@@3rd_Millennium_Engineering here ya go.
www.dpfdeleteshop.com/products/h-s-mini-maxx-dpf-delete-tuner?gclid=CjwKCAiA5IL-BRAzEiwA0lcWYpLmIJSYl1XA1BIgC_rve_52j0sTtoiTtihTpCr_r51NcL9a2JXK_RoClBIQAvD_BwE
@@phillipwright746 Thank you, I just posted my progress up this comments section.
Isn't better to put a straight pipe eansted?
It would be better/easier for sure, by doing this hopefully if visually inspected, looks stock.
Hey my brother I wanted to delete mine but seems like there is a lot of stuff going on about these deletes law wise. They getting a lot of bad attention do the black smoke roll coal thing. You don't think they're fixing to tighten down on the inspections?
Yes, there's a good chance they will tighten down on inspections especially in certain U.S. States due to EPA. So far here in Canada, it's not as strict. They have actually cut back on vehicle emissions inspections.
@@photocontrol thanks for your insight. Now another thing that I'm wondering if I delete and end up getting busted due to strict regulations what happens if you say you bought it like that? Do they force you to fix it or what
That's a good question...you may get a warning and they say you have to get it fixed by a certain time. Do you notice any other diesel owners in your area with deletes? If it's too risky there won't be anyone else driving around with deletes lol. To do a delete it can get pretty expensive, as a pricey harder to get full delete capable tuner is also required. In an area that is more strict, it would be good to keep the stock exhaust with the CAT and DPF intact and have an aftermarket straight pipe delete exhaust, in case you have to switch back.
If I understand right I can still get all the stuff for deletes but have to figure how to get it to the states right?
That's correct, the tough part is getting the tuner, the exhaust system should be widely available.
So what happens if u do inspection or get pulled over and they ask you why there are welds on the exhaust?
Fortunately we don't have annual emission inspections here, if there was some type of random road side safety inspection, hopefully they will only see that the exhaust system is intact and in good condition.
I’ve been thinking of doing this same thing. About how long would you say this process was
From the exhaust removal,gutting process, reinstall and programming, at least 12 hours.
So did u have to get a tuner after
Yes a tuner able to do deletes was required.
Do you still have this truck?
Yes, my friend still has the truck. A daily driver, no issues with the mod.
I enjoyed your video...My question is, if you guys everything, will or can the truck still operate normally, without the tuner?
Thank you! The truck requires the tuner for doing the deletes, otherwise it will not operate normally, it would most likely go into a limp mode (reduced power and speed). The delete type tuner disables all the sensors that are connected to the factory exhaust and eliminates the regen process allowing the removal of the DPF, DOC and CAT.
What year is your truck?
Why not put different exhaust lol!!
My friend didn't want to spend the money for a new exhaust lol. He wanted it to look stock in case there was ever a visual inspection.
I can’t do that to my truck since I live in sucky California
Not sure if you still own your '08 but any issues further down the road after running with this setup for awhile? Anything you would of done different?
Yes my friend still owns the truck, he's been using it as a daily driver ever since with no issues with this setup. With the DPF gutting method I can't think of anything I would have done differently.
Cool, thanks for the response.
@@sedaeng You're welcome.
Does it sounds different than stock and how about on highway or towing heavy
It does sound different than stock, it is louder, but doesn't seem to have an annoying drone on the highway or heavy towing.
So you ever have it throw any codes?
No hasn't thrown any codes, has a lot of miles/kilometers since mod as it's a daily driver.
photocontrol this is with or without programer delete
It's with a programmer delete.
photocontrol would it work without the tuner programs?
No unfortunately the DOC/ DPF can't be eliminated without having a delete capable tuner as it disables all of the sensors connected to the exhaust system/DPF.
A small wonder these poor diesels even run as chocked up the exhaust is. Diesels need to have a good, free flowing exhaust.
I totally agree Anthony, diesels need to breathe, all these things are so restrictive, they reduce power and fuel economy.
I did the deletes on my 08. Ran better, cooler, and my mileage jumped up around 5 mpg. Not to mention it sounded so much better! so sad to see these modern diesels so choked up with all that bolt on bull from the factory.
That was the best thing to do the deletes! So much restriction does more harm than good.
You can think the Democrats for there fake global warming money gimic
How’s the truck running
The truck is running great, he uses it almost daily.
I buy these dpfs 150/600
cant delete with a bullydog bud
True for Bullydog programmers/tuners sold in the U.S. The full delete capable Bullydog tuners are still available only in Canada. www.dieseladdict.ca/bully-dog-gt-plus-dpf-delete-programmer/
Did it pass smog?
Fortunately there isn't a smog test here, not sure if it would pass or not if a test was required.
Speak up, I can't hear you...
Oh wait my volume is down.
aaand in California you just cost yourself $6k or more. to those of you that think our stupid emissions laws aren't coming your way.. .think again. it has already happened time and time again.
JB COW HERDER lol, plenty of us running around delete in CA. No one gives a crap. You just need to make it stock before smog checks. So maybe it’s not a good idea to bust if the stock parts. The emission pushing seems to have slowed down in the past 2 years, I don’t see many more states adding more, but I could be wrong. a better option is wait for the smoky trucks to age out and get replaced with newer cleaner tech.
They actually got rid of emission testing here in ontario
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