Solid VOD and you played well with a solid team. I'd like to watch a VOD with non-performing team if possible in the future .. To see your thinking process among those kind of games.
clean game! I recently played and struggled in a game against galio and now that I compared both games I realize that I didn't bully him as much as you did. So I'll try to work on that the next time
Is there a reason you went doran ring start as opposed to tear? Wouldn't tear start be okay into galio/garen/akali? Really appreciate these videos, keep it up! Also, is it possible to see a losing Orianna POV and how you would try to make game winning plays from really behind? Thanks as always
Personally I don't really like it, you can sell pot if you end up not using it so you're only saving a tiny bit of gold, and I think it's not worth just on the off chance that the pot does make a difference
Do you think Horizon is better than any of the flat pen items on Ori? I usually buy Luden's (whenever I am not against a burst comp, and it's easier to burst them in fights) into Stormsurge but with the nerfs I am not sure if it is still viable on her
@@Antoine-du5qo I think stormsurge is still viable when you are against full squish comps with you being a solo or second ap on the team, I usually rush stormsurge into shadowflame with syndra whenever in that kind of position and feels great honestly.
@@AlpnzAMV so you skip lost chapter or still buy it? I can't really lane without a mana item since i play quite aggressively, push a lot and always hungry for the stacks. Otherwise Syndra will get "outscaled" by all these sidelaners that soloQ is filled with. As for the Stormsurge, the stats on it do really suck, and i genuinely believe that they killed the item.
@@Antoine-du5qo well I got the itemization advice from a high elo syndra otp and it feels okay to lane with no mana item, I get manaflow band when i am planning to go this and its managable. I advise you to try it.
Sorry very late reply but I think either of the flat pen items can be good if you're solo AP, if you're not sure though then horizon is good basically all the time
11:45 question, why are sorc not good into magic resist? arent they supposed to be against magic resist so if they buy MR arent they a better option then CDR boots even tho CDR boots are trash?
Flat magic penetration (sorc boots, Stormsurge, Shadowflame) gets countered by Magic Resistance. Magic Resistance gets countered by % Magic Penetration (Void Staff, Cryptbloom) reason is: If you have 15 Magic penetration (from Sorc boots) and the enemy only has 30 mr, you basicly bought 50% magic penetration. if you buy stormsurge or shadowflame next you will deal true damage. The Galio bought Hollow Radiance which gives 40 MR. so he should be around 70 to 80 mr total. 15 flat pen is not doing much at this point. And investing in an expensive flat pen item second ist kinda troll. Other way around: if you see two enemys build flat magic pen or lethality just go mr or armor and they wont deal dmg to you. Also: You can just buy chain vest or negatron cloak and leave it in your inventory. you dont have to invest in a full item just for the resistance stat
@@SKITone22 ahhh thank u i finally understand it better now, but if enemy is stacking MR isnt it good to buy something like voidstaff AND sorc boots? because you need all the magic pen you need? and is lethality just flat magicpen but for armor?
@@losauruz6566 stacking % and flat pen is good if enemies are having some mr but not much health, so you can still one shot them. For example an enemy carry with maw or wit's end or negatron cloak etc. If you're dealing with juggernauts and tanks you'd rather have % pen and ability haste or even Liandry's to dps them down. And yes, lethality is just a flat armor penetration.
I think you should try avoid mercs unless you really need them. They are super expensive now and this game most of the CC is avoidable with good positioning so I didn't want to buy them
Flat magic pen is better against targets with LOW magic resist. e.g. if your opponent has 50 MR, reducing that by 15 is a large amount. If your opponent has 200 MR, a reduction of 15 is negligible, so in that case % magic pen like void staff is much more valuable.
When is ranked finally fixed? I was dia 4. Im ema 3 right now. Thats completely fine. But why am i perma getting matched with players that were dia2 - master 100lp last season?😅 Yesterday 2 dia 1 and 1 master player before reset in opponent team.
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Solid VOD and you played well with a solid team. I'd like to watch a VOD with non-performing team if possible in the future .. To see your thinking process among those kind of games.
clean game! I recently played and struggled in a game against galio and now that I compared both games I realize that I didn't bully him as much as you did. So I'll try to work on that the next time
14:30 The flash coming right off cd at the perfect moment is crazy
Hey Shok! Want to play Ori but im a new player, is she still a good pick? Thank you :p
Yes Ori is still super solid
cool recall edits with the gold stats up. I like it
Is there a reason you went doran ring start as opposed to tear? Wouldn't tear start be okay into galio/garen/akali?
Really appreciate these videos, keep it up! Also, is it possible to see a losing Orianna POV and how you would try to make game winning plays from really behind?
Thanks as always
You can go tear if you like vs Galio/Garen, but you would a fair amount of early game power. I don't think you can get away with it vs Akali.
how about blackfire torch into galio/kassadin?
Could be good vs Galio, I think having Seraphs for sidelane vs Kass is useful
What do you think about galio nerf? Is it playable?
Still ok I think
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What you think about starting with only 1 pot instead of 2 on dorans ring start?
It's really good. you just need to know ahead of time that you wont need the pot in that particular match up.
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Personally I don't really like it, you can sell pot if you end up not using it so you're only saving a tiny bit of gold, and I think it's not worth just on the off chance that the pot does make a difference
thoughts on ludens > shadowflame on mages? feels so insanely op
Really good if you're solo AP/think they won't build MR, but I find this to be pretty uncommon in high elo
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You think swifty boots are ever an option? Something like swifts + comet instead of phase + pen boots if pen is kinda troll.
Seems like people will start defaulting to swifties after the sorcs nerf in 14.21
Yeah might be solid after the sorc nerf
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Do you think Horizon is better than any of the flat pen items on Ori? I usually buy Luden's (whenever I am not against a burst comp, and it's easier to burst them in fights) into Stormsurge but with the nerfs I am not sure if it is still viable on her
Stormsurge is dead on 14.20, you should never buy it. Luden's and Shadowflame are still fine though.
@@Antoine-du5qo I think stormsurge is still viable when you are against full squish comps with you being a solo or second ap on the team, I usually rush stormsurge into shadowflame with syndra whenever in that kind of position and feels great honestly.
@@AlpnzAMV so you skip lost chapter or still buy it? I can't really lane without a mana item since i play quite aggressively, push a lot and always hungry for the stacks. Otherwise Syndra will get "outscaled" by all these sidelaners that soloQ is filled with. As for the Stormsurge, the stats on it do really suck, and i genuinely believe that they killed the item.
@@Antoine-du5qo well I got the itemization advice from a high elo syndra otp and it feels okay to lane with no mana item, I get manaflow band when i am planning to go this and its managable. I advise you to try it.
Sorry very late reply but I think either of the flat pen items can be good if you're solo AP, if you're not sure though then horizon is good basically all the time
11:45 question, why are sorc not good into magic resist? arent they supposed to be against magic resist so if they buy MR arent they a better option then CDR boots even tho CDR boots are trash?
Flat magic penetration (sorc boots, Stormsurge, Shadowflame) gets countered by Magic Resistance. Magic Resistance gets countered by % Magic Penetration (Void Staff, Cryptbloom)
reason is: If you have 15 Magic penetration (from Sorc boots) and the enemy only has 30 mr, you basicly bought 50% magic penetration. if you buy stormsurge or shadowflame next you will deal true damage. The Galio bought Hollow Radiance which gives 40 MR. so he should be around 70 to 80 mr total. 15 flat pen is not doing much at this point. And investing in an expensive flat pen item second ist kinda troll.
Other way around: if you see two enemys build flat magic pen or lethality just go mr or armor and they wont deal dmg to you.
Also: You can just buy chain vest or negatron cloak and leave it in your inventory. you dont have to invest in a full item just for the resistance stat
@@SKITone22 ahhh thank u i finally understand it better now, but if enemy is stacking MR isnt it good to buy something like voidstaff AND sorc boots? because you need all the magic pen you need? and is lethality just flat magicpen but for armor?
@@losauruz6566 stacking % and flat pen is good if enemies are having some mr but not much health, so you can still one shot them. For example an enemy carry with maw or wit's end or negatron cloak etc. If you're dealing with juggernauts and tanks you'd rather have % pen and ability haste or even Liandry's to dps them down. And yes, lethality is just a flat armor penetration.
Thank you for replying for me
great video as always
Great video!
Is there an argument to go first strike for scaling? Especially against a melee mid?
Not on Ori imo, and phase rush is very good for scaling too
Hahahaha. Nice Vid. God bless you.
If sorc boots arent that good here wouldnt mercs be good this game? the enemy comp has a lot of cc
I think you should try avoid mercs unless you really need them. They are super expensive now and this game most of the CC is avoidable with good positioning so I didn't want to buy them
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how come you say sorc shoes are bad if they build MR, isnt magic pen literally the counter to magic resist?
Flat magic pen is better against targets with LOW magic resist. e.g. if your opponent has 50 MR, reducing that by 15 is a large amount. If your opponent has 200 MR, a reduction of 15 is negligible, so in that case % magic pen like void staff is much more valuable.
@@ShokLeague I see, thank you for explaining
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When is ranked finally fixed? I was dia 4. Im ema 3 right now. Thats completely fine. But why am i perma getting matched with players that were dia2 - master 100lp last season?😅 Yesterday 2 dia 1 and 1 master player before reset in opponent team.
No idea, hopefully soon!