Many thanks for your post. Work has been crazy the past months. As soon as I got some spare time I’ll continue posting new content. Don’t want to post a video that’s only 2-3 minutes long and not backed by numbers. If you got a question, I can try to answer it here or by email or discord
Thank you again for your video and spreadsheet ! Just to share with you : I have used your spreadsheet, and it could be better (at least above 100) to buy gold to increase your Titan artefacts than to buy titan potion to increase Titan level ! Here is an example. Guild Marchand Bronze Power Level 1316 649 defense seal 5* - lvl 113 to 114 2265 632 Titan lvl 106 to 107
as you always approach with math, there will be nice to see ur opinion on general sequence of levelling artifacts most effective way. As long as it takes sh1tl0ad of resources, the overall strategy covering gulidwars and dungeon for being most helpful to guild, as we know titans is for guild only in this game)
Thank you for this video! Really interesting! I think there is an error in the google sheet for the Fragments needed to upgrade the artifacts. For the mobile version, from lvl 1 to 2, it should be 300 (and not 900). From lvl 4 to 5, it should be 4500 (and not 9000). With these corrections, it makes more sense to switch to another artifact when lvl 5 is reached, as the cumulative fragments is 7215 at lvl 5, and 22215 at lvl 6
At level 88 I progress better focusing my gold on Titan Artifacts versus not upgrading them. The only money I have spent on this game were VIP packages around the time I started which totaled around $40. I am VIP 7 with 1,400 more VIP points needed to get to VIP 8. The benefit comes from the Gift of the Elements I get from upgrading Titan Artifacts. For me I progress faster focusing on Titan Artifacts because it helps me to get 150 Titanite Shards more consistently which allows me to upgrade my Titans more often using the 1,500 points I get which is usually spent on 2,000 Titan Potions + Titan Stones. I only spent the Titan Stones on Sigard. I am in a good guild which is Duke League which regularly defeats the Common/Elder/Ancient Hydra Heads. So I am gaining plenty of powder. Lately, I have not had gems to open extra Tower Chests since I stopped doing Offer Walls due to burn out; My gold has been quite a bit less than it was.
Thanks for your comment. Keep going like this. There will be bumps on the road especially when upgrades become more costly, but don’t lose your focus. Just don’t spend the gold on other upgrades (likes skills of heroes you don’t use)
@@HeroWarsGambit I have a solid plan for my end game which helps me to focus. I am building Corvus, Jhu, Dante, Nebula, Sebastian, Isaac, Martha for my endgame team. I am missing Martha so I am using Thea as a substitute. I also have Astaroth as a strong hero. My Corvus is armor skin, Dante is dodge skin, Astaroth is health, Sebastian is magical resistance.
You have to take in factor time duration as well, Araji when ult deal per second damage for 7 seconds thus increasing his total damage by a lot. As a multiplier, it may seem less but causes a lot of increase in overall damage. No other titan have this time mechanism built in their ult, so for other damage increase is just one time during ult and not for continuous 7 seconds like Araji.
that's correct, we need to consider the duration of Araji's attack. However, with titan totems not having been released on mobile (fortunately, I have to say), I guess it is save to say that a team of titan champions should always consist of 3 supers + 1 tank + 1 support. That's why I assumed that everyone will upgrade Araji's artifacts pretty early. If I could turn back time, I would prioritize my artifact upgrades as follows: 1st Hyperion's seal, followed by Sigurd's seal. 3rs would be Araji's seal, 4th would be Eden's seal. Then, I would work on Hyperion's weapon, followed by Sigurd's weapon. If we consider Araji's attack over 7 seconds, we should also mention Sigurd's shield, which lasts 5 seconds. I'm still undecided if a defending team could look like this: 3 supers + Sigurd + Mairi. I know that this would mean we have no control over Sigurd's shield, but I can live with that because once this shield is down we can assume that Mairi's ult kicks in and opponents have their attack lowered by 40% for 8 seconds. If the opponent tries to time Araji's attack until both Sigurd's and Mairi's ult is finished, the battle is basically over. I need to test this more, to get more data.
@@HeroWarsGambit thanks for the reply , can you please reply why Hyperion upgrade should be prioritise over Araji . I know Hyperion provide good heal for team and great in dungeon. But generally whenever any person attack he can time to avoid Sigurd shield and thus Araji is the highest damage dealer.
@@HeroWarsGambit also Sigurd shield is not affected by any physical attack , the only thing I can do for him his increasing his health . That's ehy upgraded his skin to level 55 and now would work toward his seal for extra health . Can you also tell about his primodial skin as he is very case specific against fire opponent. I have seen your power increase video but does that power increase really helps a lot ?
In my opinion Hyperion's added health and physical attack is more valuable than Araji's. The healing provided by Hyperion (healing increase from seal as well as from the weapon) will make your team survive longer and, hence also inflict more damage. In short: increase in survivability should lead to more victories, either in attack or defense. That's also why I would now prioritize Sigurd over Araji. I see your point regaridng the timing of Araji's attack. But if the opponent waits too long (after Sigurd's shield is down), most of the time 2 opponents are already down.
@@HeroWarsGambit thanks , can you comment on primodial skin of Sigurd , how much is it really beneficial ? I have seen all your youtube video . True it gives an increase in power but that is case specific against fire titan
When I start to think about the number of spheres needed to upgrade artifacts, and then consider the probabilities of getting the various artifacts my brain gets ready to blow a fuse. 🥵
That’s why having a plan and sticking to it is so important. Work on one artifact at a time. Ideally, you start with one seal (for instance balance) and once you got it upgraded to level 100 you can switch to the next type of seal (like defense).
As long as you are working on heroes and need the gold to upgrade their skills I think it is a good decision not to work on Titan artifacts. Focus on Titan skins while working on heroes’ skills.
It’s mind blowing how much resources you need! Wow. I’m a free-to-play player and my question is, is it worth leveling an artifact of one titan to 120, or get to say level 100, then start on the next titan?
What coins are you referring to? Fairy dust or gold? It takes 242k of fairy essence to level one artifact from lvl 1 to lvl 120. And 192 million gold for one artifact. That’s 726k fairy essence to level all 3 artifacts of one titan and 576 million gold. For 5 titans that’s 2.88 billion gold and 3.6 million of fairy essence for 5 titans
Doesn't the power formula massively overvalue elemental damage and armour? They only work vs the opposing element. In GW, I always fight war vs water, so artifacts 1 & 2 are close to useless on attack (marginal use if enemy water teams has Araji). Consequently, I put all the resources towards artifacts 1 & 2 on Eden, as those will affect water teams. Artifact 3 should be discussed separately, as the resources are different (gold) and ultimately less scarce - due to titan soul stones being tradable for gold - plus they are universally beneficial. My GM argued using titan souls for gold for artifact 3 was better than titan potions - I've prioritised getting my titans to 120 instead, but getting artifact 3 to 120 will be the next thing I do after that.
Not sure if I understood you correctly but you do need gold to level all 3 Titan artifacts. Elemental damage is dependent on the level difference between defender and attacker which is why prioritizing artifacts over Titan level isn’t a good choice. You can check this site for formulars amd details: hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Stats In Short: It’s not only about power level!
@@HeroWarsGambit I think you are worng you can only level your 3rd artifact with gold the first and second need elemental essences to be leveled to 120.
You need gold and fairy dust to upgrade any artifact. That’s why upgrading a titan’s artidacts to 120 is so insanely expensive.!if it were just for the third (seal) that would be too easy
I wouldn’t say that the info can only be used on mobile but there are several things that are different on Facebook or web. Facebook for instance has Titan totems, mobile doesn’t. Hydra is mobile only. The leveling costs for Titan artifacts on web/Facebook are different from mobile.
05:30 and 05:36 I meant million, not billion. Sorry for that.
Your videos were amazing, it's unfortunate that you seem to have stopped. :( Your analysis of the new dark and light titans would be invaluable!
Many thanks for your post. Work has been crazy the past months. As soon as I got some spare time I’ll continue posting new content. Don’t want to post a video that’s only 2-3 minutes long and not backed by numbers. If you got a question, I can try to answer it here or by email or discord
Thank you again for your video and spreadsheet ! Just to share with you : I have used your spreadsheet, and it could be better (at least above 100) to buy gold to increase your Titan artefacts than to buy titan potion to increase Titan level ! Here is an example.
Guild Marchand
Bronze Power Level
1316 649 defense seal 5* - lvl 113 to 114
2265 632 Titan lvl 106 to 107
Interesting, thx. However, I do think that most players probably have their Titan lvl 120 once their artifact are beyond lvl 100.
@@HeroWarsGambit Not me, only my main 5 titans are 120, and I have got 3 artifacts beyond 100.
Ty so much for this video. Very helpful and absolutely what I'm looking for. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻
mate, ur work is marvelous, can't wait for complete guide to titans artifacts
Anything specific you would like me to cover?
as you always approach with math, there will be nice to see ur opinion on general sequence of levelling artifacts most effective way. As long as it takes sh1tl0ad of resources, the overall strategy covering gulidwars and dungeon for being most helpful to guild, as we know titans is for guild only in this game)
@@HeroWarsGambit HOW to WIN WITHOUT upgrade the artifacts??
Thank you for this video! Really interesting! I think there is an error in the google sheet for the Fragments needed to upgrade the artifacts. For the mobile version, from lvl 1 to 2, it should be 300 (and not 900). From lvl 4 to 5, it should be 4500 (and not 9000). With these corrections, it makes more sense to switch to another artifact when lvl 5 is reached, as the cumulative fragments is 7215 at lvl 5, and 22215 at lvl 6
Thanks a lot Bertrand for your remarks 🙏You are absolutely right about the error in the google sheet regarding fragments. Mistakes have been corrected
At level 88 I progress better focusing my gold on Titan Artifacts versus not upgrading them. The only money I have spent on this game were VIP packages around the time I started which totaled around $40. I am VIP 7 with 1,400 more VIP points needed to get to VIP 8. The benefit comes from the Gift of the Elements I get from upgrading Titan Artifacts. For me I progress faster focusing on Titan Artifacts because it helps me to get 150 Titanite Shards more consistently which allows me to upgrade my Titans more often using the 1,500 points I get which is usually spent on 2,000 Titan Potions + Titan Stones. I only spent the Titan Stones on Sigard. I am in a good guild which is Duke League which regularly defeats the Common/Elder/Ancient Hydra Heads. So I am gaining plenty of powder. Lately, I have not had gems to open extra Tower Chests since I stopped doing Offer Walls due to burn out; My gold has been quite a bit less than it was.
Thanks for your comment. Keep going like this. There will be bumps on the road especially when upgrades become more costly, but don’t lose your focus. Just don’t spend the gold on other upgrades (likes skills of heroes you don’t use)
@@HeroWarsGambit I have a solid plan for my end game which helps me to focus. I am building Corvus, Jhu, Dante, Nebula, Sebastian, Isaac, Martha for my endgame team. I am missing Martha so I am using Thea as a substitute. I also have Astaroth as a strong hero. My Corvus is armor skin, Dante is dodge skin, Astaroth is health, Sebastian is magical resistance.
You have to take in factor time duration as well, Araji when ult deal per second damage for 7 seconds thus increasing his total damage by a lot. As a multiplier, it may seem less but causes a lot of increase in overall damage. No other titan have this time mechanism built in their ult, so for other damage increase is just one time during ult and not for continuous 7 seconds like Araji.
that's correct, we need to consider the duration of Araji's attack.
However, with titan totems not having been released on mobile (fortunately, I have to say), I guess it is save to say that a team of titan champions should always consist of 3 supers + 1 tank + 1 support. That's why I assumed that everyone will upgrade Araji's artifacts pretty early. If I could turn back time, I would prioritize my artifact upgrades as follows:
1st Hyperion's seal, followed by Sigurd's seal. 3rs would be Araji's seal, 4th would be Eden's seal. Then, I would work on Hyperion's weapon, followed by Sigurd's weapon.
If we consider Araji's attack over 7 seconds, we should also mention Sigurd's shield, which lasts 5 seconds. I'm still undecided if a defending team could look like this: 3 supers + Sigurd + Mairi. I know that this would mean we have no control over Sigurd's shield, but I can live with that because once this shield is down we can assume that Mairi's ult kicks in and opponents have their attack lowered by 40% for 8 seconds. If the opponent tries to time Araji's attack until both Sigurd's and Mairi's ult is finished, the battle is basically over. I need to test this more, to get more data.
@@HeroWarsGambit thanks for the reply , can you please reply why Hyperion upgrade should be prioritise over Araji . I know Hyperion provide good heal for team and great in dungeon. But generally whenever any person attack he can time to avoid Sigurd shield and thus Araji is the highest damage dealer.
@@HeroWarsGambit also Sigurd shield is not affected by any physical attack , the only thing I can do for him his increasing his health . That's ehy upgraded his skin to level 55 and now would work toward his seal for extra health . Can you also tell about his primodial skin as he is very case specific against fire opponent. I have seen your power increase video but does that power increase really helps a lot ?
In my opinion Hyperion's added health and physical attack is more valuable than Araji's. The healing provided by Hyperion (healing increase from seal as well as from the weapon) will make your team survive longer and, hence also inflict more damage. In short: increase in survivability should lead to more victories, either in attack or defense. That's also why I would now prioritize Sigurd over Araji. I see your point regaridng the timing of Araji's attack. But if the opponent waits too long (after Sigurd's shield is down), most of the time 2 opponents are already down.
@@HeroWarsGambit thanks , can you comment on primodial skin of Sigurd , how much is it really beneficial ? I have seen all your youtube video . True it gives an increase in power but that is case specific against fire titan
When I start to think about the number of spheres needed to upgrade artifacts, and then consider the probabilities of getting the various artifacts my brain gets ready to blow a fuse. 🥵
I do feel much better knowing I can ignore spending gold on these for the immediate future while I continue to build up my hero teams.
That’s why having a plan and sticking to it is so important. Work on one artifact at a time. Ideally, you start with one seal (for instance balance) and once you got it upgraded to level 100 you can switch to the next type of seal (like defense).
As long as you are working on heroes and need the gold to upgrade their skills I think it is a good decision not to work on Titan artifacts. Focus on Titan skins while working on heroes’ skills.
It’s mind blowing how much resources you need! Wow. I’m a free-to-play player and my question is, is it worth leveling an artifact of one titan to 120, or get to say level 100, then start on the next titan?
I’ll get back to you on this, ok? Need to expand my spreadsheet for this and hope I can do that next week
@@HeroWarsGambit no worries! Appreciate the help. Really helpful info, although it’s way over my head!
Blessings from Taiwan!
Wow! Thanks for this video so I WILL NOT spend THAT much time and money on them....
God bless you!
Thanks for the kind words and enjoy playing the game 💪
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Thx 🙏 that’s very kind
I've put 2 Billion coins on those Titans' artifacts and I still have not leveled them up to 120 yet for my 3 Super Titans and 3 Titans.
What coins are you referring to? Fairy dust or gold? It takes 242k of fairy essence to level one artifact from lvl 1 to lvl 120. And 192 million gold for one artifact.
That’s 726k fairy essence to level all 3 artifacts of one titan and 576 million gold.
For 5 titans that’s 2.88 billion gold and 3.6 million of fairy essence for 5 titans
@@HeroWarsGambit Gold coins
Only 880 million to go 😬
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Thank you 🙏 appreciate it
Excellent video, as usual, first comment. Lol
Thx, appreciate it
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Doesn't the power formula massively overvalue elemental damage and armour? They only work vs the opposing element. In GW, I always fight war vs water, so artifacts 1 & 2 are close to useless on attack (marginal use if enemy water teams has Araji). Consequently, I put all the resources towards artifacts 1 & 2 on Eden, as those will affect water teams. Artifact 3 should be discussed separately, as the resources are different (gold) and ultimately less scarce - due to titan soul stones being tradable for gold - plus they are universally beneficial. My GM argued using titan souls for gold for artifact 3 was better than titan potions - I've prioritised getting my titans to 120 instead, but getting artifact 3 to 120 will be the next thing I do after that.
Not sure if I understood you correctly but you do need gold to level all 3 Titan artifacts.
Elemental damage is dependent on the level difference between defender and attacker which is why prioritizing artifacts over Titan level isn’t a good choice. You can check this site for formulars amd details:
hero-wars.fandom.com/wiki/Stats
In Short: It’s not only about power level!
@@HeroWarsGambit Blessings from Taiwan!
Thank you for this useful link.
@@HeroWarsGambit I think you are worng you can only level your 3rd artifact with gold the first and second need elemental essences to be leveled to 120.
wrong = wrong
You need gold and fairy dust to upgrade any artifact. That’s why upgrading a titan’s artidacts to 120 is so insanely expensive.!if it were just for the third (seal) that would be too easy
Fairy Dust ? 0.0 Am a web ftp player , so this info is about web players or facebook/mobile ?
I only do videos on mobile
@@HeroWarsGambit So these info in your vids can not be used for us web players ? Also Fairy Dust is just for Mobile ?
I wouldn’t say that the info can only be used on mobile but there are several things that are different on Facebook or web. Facebook for instance has Titan totems, mobile doesn’t. Hydra is mobile only. The leveling costs for Titan artifacts on web/Facebook are different from mobile.
7 billion gold 😱🤮
I know, it’s a lot. But it’s a loping journey. Don’t get discouraged by those numbers