Which DAW Is Best? The Final Showdown
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- Miami explains the pros and cons for seven major DAWs and helps you figure out which one is the best for your needs. Which DAW do you use the most? Let us know in the comments!
0:00 Introduction
1:20 Logic Pro X
3:00 FL Studio
4:09 Steinberg Cubase
5:39 Abelton
7:15 Studio One
8:36 Reaper
9:35 Pro Tools
10:22 Recap
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is record vocals and instruments in Logic bad? or should i go with Reaper or Studio one for that
I started on Studio one and am still going with it, it's very intuitive in the end, it's cool
As long as you found something you like
-Miami
Studio one is AMAZING!
Fl studio has alot of not so obvious learning curve stuff... but once you figure some of that stuff out the editing for guitars vocals and drums is actually really easy.
So underated for band based music. People pass it off for this stuff quickly just because its pretty different.
Been using Fl for nearly a decade and I have never had any issues recording bands or even swapping tempos, I'm not sure why everyone seems to be so stuck on how bad it is to record in it but I haven't had the chance to play in many other daws either.. Maybe there is something I'm missing though
@@TASTELESSAUTOcheck comping
Great video man, first time I've checked your channel and went ahead and subscribed! I am a seasoned musician but new to doing my own production so I'm always looking for places to learn from and your personality and vibe is cool so ya man, keep those videos coming!
I create in Ableton. Mix and edit in Studio One. I have also been dipping my toes in Reason lately. Their instruments are really good.
The one thing I think many beginner audio workers don't understand is: you should try to be proficient in MANY applications, not just the one DAW you choose to use personally. Eventually you'll have to work on a DAW you aren't familiar with, but if you understand the feature set that is shared across most DAWs, you'll still be able to get the job done.
This right here^
-Miami
@@joeymusic You say that it is not profitable to record vocals in a studio, because they sound bad and it will be better in ableton?
Old in blues New in DAW.
Work never offered me an extra time to be associated with DAW.
However I gave a try using Cubase 12 pro trial version since last month & trial sesison is expired couple of days before.
Apparently, it is true of what you are mentioning about being 'proficient'. I am so f** frustreted that I cant even understand very basic features inside Cubase/ DAW.
Would you mind throw down a little tips...I would really appreciate. 🙏
That's what I'm saying too. I stopped complaining about DAWs, if my goal is to be a pro I should be able to get the same work done across all.
It’s not about being a computer programmer- it’s about making music. Learn a DAW, write some songs, record them, get on with your life. No need to spend hours learning multiple DAWS. This is common sense that seems to be missing in our current tech culture. The best DAW is the one that you know the best that allows you to write and record what you create.
I use Pro tools (since 2008) for editing, mixing and film scoring. For me it has the unbeatable editing. For everything else I use Ableton Live Suite (since 2006). Never had a situation where I'd need to check out other DAW's.
With LPX Colorizer I have Logic Pro looking gorgeous. The built-in Drummer instrument makes sketching ideas a breeze and it’s beat mapping of audio files leaves everyone else in the dust. I work strictly solo for what that’s worth (been involved in music for 60 years and own most of the DAWs but prefer Logic. I recently went PC for 3 years and am now back home on the Mac Studio, so I can rightly go back to saying, "Every time I touch a computer running Windows I have to go and wash my hands."
Logic’s Drum to Midi features can put a basement drum kit on the Super Bowl stage
Not to mention Ultrabeat, plus the built in samples/libraries + synths are pretty fire. Best one for integration/editing of virtual instruments/reel audio.
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I have to learn Protools for the studio I work at, and from being a REAPER user for a long time. I can say it's pretty much the same, with a couple extra hotkeys, and not that stable unfortunatley. I just think of it as another thing I need to conqour. More experience under my belt! I want to be able to use them all. REAPER paved the way.
The latest FL Studio update just made recording and tracking realllyy simple and similar to other daws . Great video btw
are you talking about razor edits? i'm a reaper noob.
During the time where the original comment was made, I had stopped using FL Studio and began the transition to Logic Pro, but I was not an Ableton user like I am now.
I really like Logic but the reason I converted to Reaper was for multiple reasons: customization, editing, and freezing/rendering. I'm able to freeze my tracks 95% faster on Reaper than in Logic.
Great presentation. Great video presence. Helpful info - thanks!
I'm a Studio One guy. For the way I like to work, I do love it. Mostly I love being able to put plugins in the input chain and record "to tape" through them like you would through analog gear. Although I'm not saying other DAWs can't do that. I honestly have no idea.
NOW THIS is interesting to me... I have been frustrated being a guitarist nd drummer and bassist and vocalist nd one man band essentially atm, with Waveform Pro seeming to not Capture the actual recording of the "PLUGIN" that I am using atm... ( I do Enjoy playing a guitar line plugged directly into my interface and then try variations and or adjust the amps settings but... sometimes I know I have he tone and the sound down and I want it to let me save precious recourses by just RECORDING THER DAMN TRACK!" I have been away from recording on a PC or Mac for so long that I as amazed when I got Amplitude 5 MAX and tried the amps.... it blows my mind.. I have always been like "FUCK AMP SIMULATORS THEY SUCK! GIVE ME A $4000 TUBE AMP ILL NEVER BE ABLETO AFFORD!:" lol but these newer Plug ins and stuff UA makes and Amplitubes software is absolutely amazing.. ( but... frankly its still not the same experience and sound ...but its way closer than I assumed was possible!)
Studio One Fan-boy here! I started on Cakewalk and I was going to try Reaper when a friend showed me Studio One and I haven´t been able to try another one since then 😬
Nice video Miami!
Started on Cakewalk, moved to waveform now I'm on S1's trial. I love it so much.
A lot of people seem to be making this studio one move... for good reason! Really great daw
-Miami
SO sux
@@gibson2623 Curious, why do you think it "sux"?
I bought Reaper because it was not expensive. I sticked with it after recording school and learning Pro Tools, FL and Logic.
Yeez I love this DAW :D
Personally I've been on Logic for decades, but I feel that the focus has changed more to the EDM crowd with loops and such. In the last few updates, nothing got adressed that I thought important, instead we got more loops and colors. So I decided to transfer. On my list were ProTools, Studio One and Reaper.
ProTools exited quite fast, I don't like subscriptions. And the perpetual license was too steep.
I made a list of things I do, and check out on YT on how to do that in Studio One and Reaper. DOwnladoed Reaper and decided to give Studio One the first try as it supports AU. I liked what I saw, and how everything worked, so stuck there.
In my opinion there is no ultimate DAW. Everything has their pros and cons. One of the things I find lacking in Studio One for example is the MIDI editing which is better in Cubase. Oh well...
I'm happy
There is no perfect daw, only the perfect daw for YOU 😀
-Miami
I started on Cubase, recorded and edited an EP on Studio One, tried Reaper and ended up on Logic. To me it's the easiest one to use and the one with most features of the shelf that are not hidden to the point I have to go on a forum to look them up (also has pitch correction for instance).
For my workflow it's what I need, I never use windows unless someone points a gun at me, I never share projects, only tracks, and I love the fact that everything related to a project is condensed in a single file.
Studio One is a close second for me.
things you might not know about studio one is that the pro version has a project page which allows you to do professional mastering. it includes all the tools such as vectorscope/correlation meter. other metering such as peak, true peak, rms, K metering system, LUFS metering system. recent additions include automation on the project page and target LUFS for online platforms. it had already had features that including adding ID3s and ISRC codes even make DDP. But im a studio one fanboy lol i cant help it. If you are a sphere member has all kinds of collaboration tools. just throwing that out there.
Thanks for all those added details, Robert! I gotta dig more into it but those sound like some awesome added features
-Miami
I ditched my Wavelab once I upgraded my SO to Pro version. The project page is very intuitive and easy to use.
@@lordberly what does the pro page have over Wavelab? Im interesting in both
Started with Cubase many years ago, tried to learn ProTools as the studio’s I was recording in used it. Tried Reaper early on, but could never jive with all the options. I landed on Studio One 4 and finally felt like I meshed well with it. A couple years later I tried ableton live and fell in love with it. Ableton is my main DAW, I sometimes pull tracks into studio one to mix and I still tinker with Reaper.
By the way, you should make a video on a fast and efficient midi editing workflow in Reaper, that would be awesome! 🤟🏻
Nicely done with a well ballance pros and negative list.
I'm a hobbyist/amateur hard dance producer who uses FL Studio. I enjoy using FL but part of me does want to switch to a different DAW. The feature I use the most in FL is actually a very simple one, the piano roll scale highlighting.
Also the fact that FL includes its own version of an ASIO driver, along with providing ASIO4ALL, is great for those that don't have audio interface hardware.
I use FL and I gotta say, you are right about editing guitars and vocals, it can be a nightmare. Drums not so much, I think I've gotten used to it. However, always wanted to switch to Reaper but the UI seems quite confusing and thought of learning stuff from scratch makes me question this decision. As they say, beginnings are always difficult.
Cool video as always Miami! 💖
So tru. I think fl is better than all the others for automations and drums. I mean fl dominates the rap game, and thats all samples and drums. Their piano roll too is pretty awesome.
I did the exact same thing. I'm pretty great with FL and almost to the point where if I can think it I can make it. But since I make death metal and no one really uses FL for heavy music, I tried Reaper. Maybe I'm dumb but I just cant work as fast and run into too many snags on Reaper where FL that never happens. Also, that piano roll is fantastic.
I used FL many years (that piano roll holded me for long time) doing metal stuff but ended up frustrating on audio editing, projects with lots of automation and hardware limitations. I swithed to Reaper, it was difficult at first, but I never looked back once I get it. It's godly light on CPU, I can do so many stuff with my hardware, I can run so many plugins without need to constantly print it... it's just awesome.
I also tried Studio One, this DAW is pretty but... it feels not flexible at all. I prefer to organize mixer in my way and I was not able to do it with Studio One (with custom midi inputs and kind of complex routing). This one thing drew me away.
I use FL for all the metal music on my channel.
I can't really compare it to other DAWs because I am not familiar enough with any others...
Like in this video, I have heard people say it's bad for recording live instruments, but I am really just wondering why people say that?
I have heard it from a few people and have also noticed that few use it for heavy stuff. But have never really heard an explanation as to why...
@@SinysterSoundsOfficial Yeah I wonder the samething, I hit record and it records, I make a cut a drag it and I can edit my Guitars. I just don't know what I'm missing and with the recent updates it's only gotten easier.
I love Studio one tbh. Its just perfect for work flow.
I tried using Ableton live just to challenge myself to trying something new. But I just couldn't stop thinking about the ease of use Studio one has been giving me for years. Happily went back to Studio one.
Excellent presentation, well done. What do you think about Mixcraft 9?
I use reaper and totally happy with it. Many guys i follow on YT all seem to use Logic, George Lever, Nolly, Rebea and so on this makes me real interested in trying it, however going to the trouble and cost of buying a Mac + 200 euros for logic pro x.... Im very happy to just continue to learn about reaper. Not to mention the great engineers using reaper, Miami, Joey, Glenn Fricker, Adam Steel... i think im in good enough company.
Well-made and presented video and it sounds like you were very objective.
The one big ommission here is Cakewalk (now by Bandlab).
I was a long time user of Sonar and had just paid out for the new X3 Edition when it went under and was no longer supported. Now it's a completely free D/L and comes as the full Suite!!
Exactly the same happened to me. Cakewalk is better than ever now tbh
For some reason cakewalk doesn’t show my vst guitar plug-ins
@@KingofPho75 you may need to add another folder to scan for vst's within cakewalk maybe
I was a beta tester for Cakewalk/Sonar for 3 years. I recently went back to take a look at what bandlab did with the code and it was kinda unrecongnizable to me. Had a bit of a re-learnign curve so I dumped it.@@mrcarlo5357
Studio One is so good, moved from Cubase a few years ago and never looked back
Recently switched from Mac to windows. And thus switching from logic. I was planning to switch to studio one but I might have to check out reaper lol, considering I’m a student and it’s only 60 bucks
I have all daws available and my take on this topic is more towards which daw can let me do everything i need to do without needing another tool outside of it. That being said, the one that gives me everything I need right now is Studio One.
I own FL Studio for years and including Reaper. You can [rewire] Fl studio inside of Reaper together which makes it untouchable. I'm buying STUDIO ONE 5 now just to learn it.
Very helpful. Just switched from Ableton to Reaper for edrum midi recording through Superior Drummer 3 VST because cymbal chokes don’t work in Ableton due to lack of support for Polyphonic Aftertouch. Reaper everything works fine.
Woah, I didn’t even know that. Thanks for teaching me something
-Miami
Did you need to do anything special to get the choke working?
Poly AT for cymbal chokes?
So you either have an Ensoniq Board, or a Hydra Synth.
As for me, 2 ASR10's.. Love Poly aftertouch.
As for cymbal chokes, Id usually place them in a Group , Say even for Closed / open Hi hat, which has nothing to do with a CC but a notes within the group ...Ive also used Expression (EV-5) to do real time closed to open hi hats. BFD3 is awesome for that...
So im interested in what you mean, It could be something I could utilise.
Good video! Part 2 should include Reason 12, Samplitude, Mixcraft, Bitwig and any DAW thats been around for years could be thrown in there. cheers!
Samplitude is the only DAW out of those I think doesn’t have MAJOR cons. Actually they’ve been ahead of the game if other daws for years. Even in the analog world being the only daw that automatically dithers going in and out of AD/DA converters.
I’ve never used it personally, but I’ve done research. They’re a sleeper without the community backing it like reaper or studio one
Awesome video bro! May I request a video on how to make a guitar solo blend to the backing track, my solo is sounding so out of place, thanks alot!
I started with Reason 4 with Pro Tools for audio, switched to Logic when I got Mac money, checked out Studio One, back to Logic and I’m currently on Ableton. I’ve used Reason throughout and being able to use it as a rack extension has been great. As a rack extension it’s probably the best vst bundle out there. As a DAW, Reason can do everything and it gets it done much faster and far easier than most, but if you want to dive deep you’ll need an in depths knowledge of audio engineering. The console, mastering suite, midi/audio editing, automation, etc is great. You don’t need to buy any 3rd party plugins.There is a device for everything. If you understand synthesis, sound design and hardware routing the possibilities are endless. I just got over the knobs, cables and manual everything. It’s options overload and it’s always staring you right in the face all the time. And good luck trying to find an answer on TH-cam.
Pro Tools is great for recording/editing audio, mixing and mastering. It’s also good with outboard gear. If you’re just mixing/mastering or recording audio this is great. I wouldn’t really consider it to be the best all in one solution though (especially not at that price).
Logic was easy to use, although navigating was a pain sometimes. It was great with audio, but midi editing was lacking. However, some of my best work has been done in Logic. Sometimes less is more.
Studio One has everything I ever wanted… on paper. However, the workflow just didn’t work for me. I really thought it would be the ultimate DAW and maybe it is, but I just couldn’t get into it.
I wish I tried Ableton a lot sooner. Everyone talked about the session view and with the style of music I was doing it really didn’t work for me. What I didn’t realize was even if you never use session view, Ableton is a very detailed and feature rich program. There is no end to great tutorials on every aspect of the DAW and people are finding new and amazing ways to work with audio, midi and automation everyday. It’s pricey but for me it works. The biggest bonus is the content creators out there. If you have a question about anything, there are likely multiple videos to help you out.
Reason taught me how to patch properly and I’ll never forget about it for that reason
-Miami
I use Cubase, Reaper and Reason but Reason will always be the most fun to produce music inside of. The rack is awesome
Cubase / Nuendo are one of the best DAW I been using for well over 20 yrs. Even in audio recording school we used PT but of the teachers put us onto Nuendo and I didn't look back...both of these DAws are truly a beast with Recording but as of late been having issues using older plugins 🤓🙆♂️🤔 Update, figured out i need Jbridge to remedy using older plugins yay
*khm khm* been using Cubase 3.11 and then 5.2 for years ;) But once Cubase 9 came out I have been on the Cubase up-to-date train (9, 9.5, 10, 10.5 and now 11). Love it for midi and drums - it just perfect and I never looked to change the DAW ever since.
The only reason I ever left Cubase is honestly because I’m cheap lmao. Couldn’t pay to upgrade regularly, but it’s still one of the most powerful daws ever
-Miami
@@joeymusic Agree - it gets spicy woth the upgrades. I think im gonna stick with 11 Pro for the next couple of years.
Using Samplitude pro X for sooo many years. Tried a lot of others but the workflow is amazing in Samplitude.
As long as you’re happy with it
-Miami
@@joeymusic true
Price was surely the major drawing point for me to Reaper, but after using it for awhile and really making it my own, I've come to really love it. Also, JS plugins are too good
They work better than some things I’ve paid for tbh
-Miami
check out tukan's js plugins. fantastic
@@rdwilln Oh dude, I'm in love with the dis-treasure plug-in, it's beautiful 😍
Pro Tools user for a while here. Started with Logic before that and now I'm learning Reaper. It's very hard not to default to PT after years of working with it, the efficiency is ridiculous. I can work a 80 something track song, organize, edit, mix and master within a day. Something I stumble way too much on Logic or Reaper (for now). The real MVP in PT has to be the smart tool. Never seen it implemented as intuitively simple (yet.)
Phew… I thought you were going to rip studio one apart. I’ve been using it for about 12 years so I kinda know the ins and outs. Although I have purchased reaper and have been learning it to further expand my options. Awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it Heath!
-Miami
Studio one here 😁 amazing daw, mastering suite, and a live show page ( like Ableton live) it's got everything you need. I'd use reaper if Studio one wasn't Everything in one spot😁🤘
Yeah, studio one pleasantly surprised me, I can’t lie
-Miami
@@joeymusic i honestly wish I didn't like it😂 I don't like being the fanboy type lol
can you tell them to call the free or demo version "Studio 1/2" for jokes :)
Mastering suite, ha, ha. Good one!
Please make some tutorials that just specify how u get it to work like Live
Reason!!! I’ve been using it for about 20 years and it’s still amazes me what I get out of it
Damn, I'm on a Mac and I was considering buying Logic Pro X, but now you got me thinking. Reaper does sound good but studio one sounds the best when you described it.
Hey Dude. Cool video thank you. I’m on Reaper now and I love it especially after Logic my God so many problem I have with Logic. What do you think about Bitwig ?
I Completely agree with you're input on FL Studio! So Glad I made the switch to REAPER!! wait who said that?
I am a studio one user and have been hoping for Reaper add some must have features for almost a decade they haven't added. I really just need better drum editing and better track comping/playlists.... I really don't like the way reaper current handles the take systems but other than that I would happily use it as my main DAW. Until then Studio One is next best and Cubase always lives on my computer because it is also the first DAW I used and still love it for specific sessions.
There’s one arguable con for Studio One which is that some of their best goodies are available only with the subscription version. Which also makes me wonder when they might drop everything else and go pure subscription. Actually even Cubase has a similar issue with their Steinberg Absolute. But that’s a one time purchase. Great overview thanks.
I'm definitely a big fan of Logic. Of course, I am a Mac user... and I definitely acknowledge the flaws that the program does have. However, one of the things that stands out the most to me is the quality of their stock plugins! I have tinkered with most DAWs at this point, and Logic's stock plugins have always been my favorite. Additionally, flex pitch has always been really good for vocal tuning and transposing in my opinion! Nevertheless, the main point of this video stands: the best DAW out there is the one for YOU. Mine is Logic and yours is Reaper. Just another factor that makes all of us engineers unique in our own right!
I use pro tools for everything. Beat making, metal, film scores, weird sound design stuff. I agree with the closing sentiment, it doesn’t matter which daw you use, as long as you’re making music. I started with acid pro… so there’s that.
I know people who were making stuff slap with acid pro back in the day lol
-Miami
In the end its just down to personal preference, what DAW one does consider "the best".
For me as a hobbyist, the best is Logic as it is reasonably affordable with a lot of bulit in, usable, plugins.
Tried to use Reaper for a few months but I never quite gotten to grips with it - granted I only used the default GUI and didn't tinker with customizing keyboard shortcuts.
The Booth Junkie has the best Reaper tutorials that I have ever seen.
Very happy with Studio One!
I am really interested in Reaper. But is there any workaround to more easily use MPE? It doesn't seem set up to use it well at all unless I am missing something (ie no way to configure bend range, no grid or snapping to edit the pitch bends--which are super fiddly when using the standard 48 bend range--other daws let you edit pitch right on the piano roll, etc)
I am a Reaper user. I tried Adobe Audition (way too over complicated for simple jobs), Sonor/Cakewalk (Nice but when Gibson dumped it, I went to Reaper) and I had a brief fling with Cubase (No, just no. Never felt comfortable for me.). I tell friends the best DAW is the one you take the time to learn from top to bottom and the one your computer loves to work with without crashing. For me, that's Reaper. I briefly tried a stripped down version of Pro Tools but I never worked with it long enough to be get comfortable. I'm sure it's fine. Expensive but fine. That is what I enjoy about working in Reaper. I can just work faster with better results. Reaper also updates the software (for free) almost monthly (often even sooner). They don't hold back any updates for the "next version".
So what’s the main difference between Reaper and Studio One and how intuitive it is to add automation and perform mixing and mastering? I plan on learning both FL Studio and Ableton since I like to produce different genres of music whenever I’m in the mood.
Great video. Do I have to buy the $200 version in order to move a session from x daw to reaper?
Okay, I just discovered your channel from a link in a Spectre Digital e-mail. I'll take that as an endorsement from Glenn Fricker, then. I don't think he'd endorse a crappy channel, and this was a gem of a video. I liked and subscribed, and look forward to binge-watching your channel!🙂
Started with CakeWalk, but recently I bought a Mac, which CakeWalk doesn’t work with. So… I got Reaper, since I had a rough idea on how to use it from using it on Windows, and it’s perfect for me, especially since I do mostly live recording, but if it wasn’t Reaper, it would be Studio One.
I have just switched from studio one to reaper, best switch I ever made! But I will say, Logic is top class also
Why though? I just don't see it.
Studio one is amazing ! I do feel sorry for the slow tools people haha
I think Studio One started from a couple of Steinburg employees, including a developer of the original Cubase. I really tried liking Ableton, but it felt like if you don’t want to write songs by playing loops in different combos, it just didn’t work for me. I haven’t learned Studio One very well, yet, I must confess, but what I have learned, I like. It seems like the developers are super responsive to feature requests. Since I spoke of Cubase, you may note that with its new version, it no longer requires a dongle. A few years late, but at least it’s something.
Hei man I'm using cubase 5 since a lot of years and I would like to try something new, do you have any recommendations? nice video
I literally clicked because of the studio one logo was shown. So underrated
It’s a big sleeper
-Miami
I'd really like to hear your opinion on Cakewalk. Not quite as solid as Reaper (also a Reaper fanboy, lol) but still a pretty solid DAW for being free.
I play blues & country songs. So if I only want to record;
vocal
guitar
piano
trumpet
bass &
drum with 0 sound effects(but ofcourse with some final polishing & tracks arrangements) and want to export/produce it, which DAW best suits me??
I'll rep the Cubase and Reaper gang! Honestly so torn between the two at the moment. I've used Cubase for the past decade and I love it, it isn't always the most flexible, but it's efficient and fast ... But I recently started learning Reaper and have grown to love it as well.... It's very snappy, far more flexible, really refreshing... It's a lover's quarrel!
P.s. I hear Cubase 12 comes out next month- No more USB dongle! :D
Those are my two fav daws atm too so I see your struggle
-Miami
Great video, I am a filmmaker and I was wondering what is the best DAW for sound design with easy to learn interface and great SFX librairy? Thx ^^
Try Reaper - it’s very powerful and works well with video and is also free to evaluate!
Question for you: would you consider doing a video on the pros and cons of Serato Studio?
I switched from acid 7 pro to reaper bout 7 yrs ago. Best decision ever made!
FL Studio is not able to set a negative offset on the sounds. Would be helpful when having orchestral sounds like horns which has a startup time. Does any of the orher daws have negative delay?
I’m starting to learn Reaper even if I love Studio One because it’s so heavy on the CPU and Reaper is not.
you can time and pitch stretch in a good deal of daws from what i know. logic has flex time which lets you control time and pitch in a bunch of different ways. my friend uses ableton and has the same, i think my friend who has fl can do the same thing
Hi Miami!
How was your transition to Reaper? Did you download any custom settings or had a friend helping you started out with it or did you set up everything for yourself? Did you find the default settings of Reaper usable or logical in any form? I'm curious about this aspect of a former Reaper user, because I only hear the positive stuff about it, but my experience is very biased:
I'm a S1 kid. When I was trying out Reaper coming from Pro Tools, I was very hyped, every video said only good about it, but after 2 weeks of trying to get used to it I literally wanted throw my mac out the window. Spent days customising the DAW and when I was at the point writing the script for being able to zoom into the waveform vertically with a mouse wheel than defining what the DAW needs to do when selecting the bottom and top half of the clip, I decided to never touch reaper again. The default settings does not make sense, later I found an hour long video explaining every single settings to change for just getting started with Reaper. It literally felt like an unfinished DAW that I have to complete and customise forever which doesn't even have AAF support. The GUI was very unintuitive, nothing felt intentional when using it. I just couldn't figure out where to find what and what should do what without watching another 30min tutorial.
I'll probably never leave S1, it makes so much sense for me to work in it, but can't get out of my head why using reaper felt like rocket science. I know pretty much every DAW inside out, PT, LPX, Cubase, Live, S1, FL, I never had issues and getting used to each of them only took about 1-2 days. So what was your first impression?
I was friends with some pro reaper users, ngl. But changing the keyboard mapping to be the same as my previous daw helped quite a bit
-Miami
Had you considered "Digital Performer?" Who even uses it besides Ray Parker Jr? Actually its a great DAW, very intuitive, definitely over priced but I had it before switching to Logic Pro 9. Thoughts? Feedback Joey?
Thanks.
How about Cakewalk ?
The BEST GUI, full featured, etc.
....and........FREE !
Bill P.
i just find that my workflow is significantly faster on studio one recording and editing vocals on it is just Perfect
Reaper is the king of mixing, editing and recording. I started using Reaper after making loops and stems in other software like MPC or the free 8 track Ableton that comes with keyboards.
And for that reason, I became a Studio One fan as it now can make beats and patterns plus has Reaper-like mixing ability.
There is something to be said tho about using different DAWs for different things as the interface of the DAW can condition your brain into different modes of thought.
The only drawback in Reaper is the lack of OOTB synths or instruments. But if you grab some good free ones such as drum gizmo or Vital then you're OK.
Reaper tend to crash sometime when loading your own Vst Plugin.
The best DAW is the one that allows you to accomplish what you’re trying to achieve, which for me is Logic. I learned how a DAW works in Pro Tools, but the price was unjustifiable then, and I’d argue even more so now. Always had Apple as my home computer and I loathe working on PC for anything, let alone music production, and Logic made and still makes sense for my situation and workflow 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah I don’t hate on anyone making something work for them. Just having to go from session to session, computer to computer, logic doesn’t work for me and a lot of engineers in Hollywood. It definitely has a home with many people tho
-Miami
@@joeymusic I compose in Logic (came from cubase, tried all the others, and logic just works for me,) Great for film scores, and just my own stuff, But, When it does come to Film, Ive got to have protools,... Its always about deliverables when working on Indy projects.. Editor uses Avid media composer. Remixer uses Tools, So I export all stems from logic, and throw into a PT template, listen for issues , Then give the deliverables as a Session,. the remixer just imports from my session... Done.. Just a safe way to minimise comaptibilty issues , and its literally ready to mix , all assigned exactly as the decided workflow/naming etc
I do hope Davinci and Fairlight start kick more Avid Butt.
Same as the OP. I learned on PT. But the chronically horrible midi lead me to Cubase (which I like) and eventually to Logic, where I now reside. The ridiculous price models for PT has recently made me drop my perpetual license. So long!
if you’re a Mac user Logic is super for Pop R&B Hip Hop, also it’s fantastic for some organic EDM like Trance, Tech House, Progressive House or Deep House, Ableton Live its a Game changer especially for Dubstep bass House Drum & Bass Future Bass, Trap, FL its awesome for Hip Hop, at the end they are just tools, it’s all about workflow, what’s hard is producing and finishing tracks
Been using Protools for 20 years and I just switched to Studio One last week. Holy shit I've been missing out. PT is so far behind. I'm in love with S1
Waveform is my daw. It has a unique workflow and gui that people get turned off by, but for me both of those differences from traditional daws are what i see as pros. Pitch shifting and audio stretching are a breeze. You can attach a modulator to literally any plugin parameter (in free only an lfo which is still very powerful. in pro tho it can be an envelope, breaking point, random generator, step sequencer. i may be missing one.). pro comes with some very decent plugins. it comes with a wonderful multi sampler and drum sampler. Also the work with midi is phenomenal. A really cool feature with midi(not sure if other daws have this) is you can write two different voices and choose a probability with which a certain note plays. Kinda like Stochas. It's designed to be all on one screen so basically instead of opening up the piano roll you can just widen the track and write everything on that track. this specific one is not gonna be pleasant for people who arent very used to that kind of workflow, but that's been fixed and there's an additional piano roll too. Plus working with clips is so easy and intuitive. I probably left out a lot. the cheapest version is free and the cheapest pro version is about 100 dollars. It has unlimited tracks (in the free version too), unlimited plugins too pretty sure, and a 14 plugin limit on the master track. It's also very much lightweight and opens quickly. It uses plugin sandboxing so instead of crashing the whole daw when a plugin fails, it disables the plugin and not the daw. Tho for some reason side chaining doesnt work when you have sandboxing on. that being said crashes have been very rare for me, especially in waveform 12
Hey i have Waveform 12 free its very super Daw but cons are you can not play many tracks at the same time with midi and record together you can only play one track with instrument!And Sandboxing is not perfect i have disabled!!Sends are not so good with aux and returned!!Cpu is not Low as in Reaper!!Can Waveform detected Chords when i drag my own midi file ?
@@23gitarist I don't know about waveform free, although I"m sure it's possible in free too, you can make it so that one output can be open on different tracks in settings. will tell you where in a sec. Also if you have different programs on your midi controller you can create a new output and set it to the same midi controller but on a different channel. That way you can basically turn your controller into a looper. And yeah, it takes more cpu but for me it's worth it
found it! Go to general settings all the way down and you'll find "track input". The first checkmark says "Allow inputs to appear on multiple tracks". You can also make it so that there can be more than one input in 1 track, but I don't remember that. probably in advanced settings. I think the main con with waveform is that there aren't enough advanced tutorials on it. Or at least when I started out with it there weren't
@@schniT_T Thanks i will try it)))
Reaper Gaaaaaang 🐐🐐
#grimgang
-Miami
Personally I am using Bitwig Studio and I would never switch again! Basically, it’s like ableton, but more stabil, has a nicer UI, works on all operating systems, and overall feels more modern
I finally jumped into the Bitwig demo a couple days ago and fell in love. I can't imagine going back to Pro Tools or any other DAW for that matter.
FL STUDIO for beat and music production. PRO TOOLS for recording mix and master
I'm still waiting on that editing midi guitars video Miami, I'm also interested in which sample libraries you recommend ie Shreddage, Cabal, Ample Sound ...etc
It’s gonna take me a week to do that video so I have to wait for a week I don’t have to do multiple videos. I’ll do it soon tho I promise
-Miami
Odin is a winner for me!
Personal opinion that no one asked for... Midi guitars are killing the metal/rock scene 😭 there are so many people who can't play instruments writing stuff that 90% of guitarist couldn't play live. It's sad that it's come to a computer doing all of the work these days. Most of the time it's perfect DI, perfect notes, perfect BPM, tooooo perfect ... It may be hypocritical of me to speak on that because I use midi drums. however, if the entire track is computer generated.. it might as well be dubstep or EDM
And I'm not meaning to offend anyone by saying that, it is purely my opinion and that may matter to no one.
Buuuut, I feel as if it is the same as auto tune, it removes the true talent.
@@ITZrobertoBRO I have a lot of sympathy with your argument. However, as someone who didn't have have the time or resources to properly learn how to play guitar but still want to write my own heavy guitar music, these tools allow me to make the music that I want to make even if I don't play the instrument.
I personally use Studio One. I switched from Logic over 3 years ago. I still use Pro Tools and Ableton.
i like how his mood suddenly boosts when he start explaining reaper
Im a Nuendo user in love, and I use Reason racks and Reaper cause its great too, but not Pro tools... I wish I could use ableton for performances, as Maxforlive makes me think outside the dawbox... Pro Tools is just like far from my desires
Another thing that I don't think you mentioned about Reaper is how often it's updated. You pretty much get monthly builds. Bugs get squashed and features get added very rapidly. Last I checked, it's still being worked on by the same 2/3 people from its inception so they really know the code.
Yep, I didn’t want to go too in depth because I’ve made a whole video about this and don’t like to repeat content and rob the viewers😀
-Miami
@@joeymusic Oh totally. Just for anyone who's researching. I'm certain you know full well! I love watching Reaper Blog go over every release. Not sure why, but I find that compelling, even though at this point it's pretty esoteric changes most of the time. Thanks for the vidyas!
Thanks for the video. Been on cubase for around 30 years I think. Biggest drawback for me is the bugs you'll experience. The dongle goes away this year :)
Goodbye Dongle! It’s about timeee
-Miami
What about Luna? Would of been nice to hear what you think about Luna Daw and UAD,
thank you and amazing videos as usual!
I’m saving that for a special video
-Miami
@@joeymusic looking forward to seeing it thank you!
Luna isn’t ready yet. I tried to like it, but it’s clunky. Also not a fan of a DAW trying to emulate an analogue workflow in 2022. Not to mention having to buy even more plug-ins to make it sound great.
Love Studio One, features for days!!! Been learning Cubase and am surprised by how similar they are, definitely helps with the learning curve
I think the studio one guys also made cubase
Yea a couple people from there worked on it so it explains a lot
-Miami
Studio one guys left.came from steinberg to creat S1. They brought their Cubase/nuendo skills/ideas with them to S1. They both have cool,workflows.
Reason (formerly by Propellerhead, renamed Reason Studios). Super fun DAW for composition! Not so great for audio editing anything more than a stereo wav.
I quite like Reason for editing and recording. Their stock synths are definitely the main selling point, but I find the slice edit function, along with the pitch editor really useful when you're working with a lot of vocals.
Big cubase user, tho I wish we had some of the crazy customization features of Ableton (racks, sequencing, sampler, etc.) And the fl studio easy midi note bend... well atleast there is always ReWire 😏
Rewire is a lifesaver
-Miami
You should check out Bitwig. Its pretty similar to Ableton, but more powerful IMO. I do exclusively use Reaper, but for electronic music, I will sometimes work in Bitwig because it has some pretty interesting automation and modulation stuff you can do.
Ive got to agree, Ableton just didn't do it for me, But Bitwig I played with at Ver 1.. It was interesting, I liked the concept, but wasnt really mature enough... But what ive seen recently, I definitely need to revisit it again for the Electronic music.
I’m going to be honest Casey. I have to look into it more and use it for a bit before even trying to comment on it. But enough people seem to have interest in this, so I’ll do that!
-Miami
@@Rhythmattica it grew up.
Legacy Live user here
Running trial now of Bitwig studio 4.
I can see where Ableton is more mature in some ways .. but I think it’s time to get on bitwig
It’s good
I want to make hard trap / jungle terror type music .. using reaper currently , most of the TH-cam tutorials are specific to fl or live ... Should I switch ?
Idk if you have any copy of Studio one but if you could figure out adding swing to midi notes using their note FX plugin I would appreciate it, it's kind hard just moving around the timeline and hoping
I do, I’ll try to figure it out for you
-Miami
Transition game still crazy !!!☝🏿
Every damn time 😂
-Miami
I've been using Studio One for the past couple years. It's fine. I used Mixcraft for years before it, which is so easy to use but I kind of outgrew it. I was thinking if I should pay the $20 or whatever and get the Mixcraft 9 Pro Studio upgrade just to see if it took care of the issues I had in Mixcraft 8. But then at the same time, I'm wondering if I should just stick to Studio One and upgrade to 5 when I have the money. I'm in a pickle. 😂
I've tried Reaper and it just feels terrible to use, for me. The price tag is appealing but I can't stand how it works. 😛
Reaper might not be the perfect daw for you! Just stick with studio one
-Miami
What would you recommend for me editing my own rap vocals? Not really trying to make beats
Prob pro tools to be honest. Any daw will do this though
-Miami