As a German I really like their songs, because they mix socialism with the wish for the Germans to be a united, sovereign People among brothers without being occupied by either Americans or Russians. Thanks a lot for uploading this!
But it doesn't make sense at all, at 2:14 for example they show clearly that they like Stalin while not liking the GDR which was created and more or less controlled by Stalin...
@@Minecraftzocker135 stalin plan for germany was a United germany, anyone that studied The post War negotiations knows this. Under stalin there was no wall. The americans wanted to completely balkanize germany, look up roosevelt plans for post War germany.
Didn't knew that German anti-revionist communists made another rendition of God Save Ireland, which German communists also made another one which is called "Go home, Ami, Ami go home!".
@@zacharyhughes2950 Maoists are kinda vague, but nah, they actually weren't necessarily Maoists, especially not after 1978, they are more close to Hoxhaist anti Revisionists.
@@zacharyhughes2950 not really! maoists believe that the revolution starts on the oppresed countries but it will definetely reach the imperial core at some point
Die KPD/ML war sowohl gegen die USA als auch die Kontrolle der Sovietunion in der DDR und entsprechend auch gegen die Teilung Deutschlands in Ost West. Damit haben sie sich effektiv alle Lager zum Feind gemacht und wurden in der DDR von der Stasi unterwandert und zerschlagen.
@@roedagardet But one has to admit that if he really didn't know much about the KPD/ML before, that was a pretty good guess since the MfS (Stasi) took great efforts to infiltrate and break the Eastern group.
no not really only if you translate literally but as a German it means more like must be free or like you said shall be free. It's certainly not should
@fate8007 Yes but when capitalism itself is being threatened, they have no trouble cooperating with one another as much as possible to "defend democracy" aka retain their power.
Revisionism is an ideology that tries to promote interests of capitalists and their servants while using communist words, phrases and symbols . Socialism is a wide range of teachings about how to make the life good for the people. Marxism is scientific socialism, when you don't just dream about changes, but when you figure out, who and how can really make life better, - and act with that in mind. So this song is socialist and marxist.
@@clownshow_5727 Yes, and Kruschev, and Brezhnev, and Andropov (all of the post-Stalin leadership, and Kruschev specifically also replaced the leaderships of the countries the USSR protected like Romania with social-fascists). And Deng Xiapoing's clique in China restored capitalism. There's not a single socialist country right now, but in China there's a strong anti-revisionist student movement, in India there are the Naxals, in the Philippines, Peru and Turkey there are true socialist movements in revolt. Not all hope is lost
Though this wasn't permanent since a few years after their founding, they started officially distancing themselves from Maoism and started viewing it as a harmful element of the earlier party.
No, not at all. KPD/ML were a part of the anti-revisionist New Communist Movement of the 60's to 80's. This movement was critical of the soviet union and held ideological unity with the Chinese Communist Party under Mao, due to his theories of Soviet "social"-imperialism. This song isnt appealing to any nationalist sentiment, but a proletarian one. Marxists in the New Communist Movement believed that any occupying power is a blockade to any revolution, thats why the Chinese led a "new democratic" struggle before the socialist revolutionary struggle, its why Palestinians today fight for the national-liberation of Palestine before the just proletarian liberation that must happen thereafter. KPD/ML saw both the capitalist imperialist West Germany (a vassal state of the US) AND the social-imperialist East Germany (a vassal state of the then revisionist USSR) as a divider of the German proletariat, which was a necessary analysis, because a split proletariat cant be a strong proletariat. KPD/ML under no circumstances was aligning itself to any bourgeois nationalist movement, it rightly saw what the true nature was of both German states, that of reaction, and proceeded to struggle to end the divide and unify Germany, which was a popular opinion among Germans and the correct line to hold (in my opinion). The same logic applies to North and South Korea. North Korea has fallen to the exact same social imperialism as the USSR did, and as China has after the right wing of the Communist Party of China (represented by Deng Xiaoping) won the struggle with the left wing, represented by Mao Zedong. A unification of the Korean people, is the only correct solution and path to a truly socialist Korean republic, even if it means that the gains of the Korean people during the Korean war for liberation might completely have gone to waste, but one can say that they already have under the revisionist leadership of modern North Korea. "Naz-bol"ism or "patriotic socialism" is a meme ideology that i dont think has ever existed with any popular support or relevance. Today its a meme ideology held by people who would rather go "ideology-shopping" or simply fell to the propaganda of a right-wing "patriotic-socialist" grifter on Twitter. Generally many socialist struggles have included national liberation struggles, i can see how it can be easy to confuse that with patriotism, but the key difference is who and why. Communists fighting for national liberation are doing so as part of the process to free the proletariat from any given nation-state, "nationalists" (meaning right wing nationalists, because many great nationalist struggles have been progressive, i.e. Palestine, Ireland, Black nationalism etc.) do so out of chauvinism, racism, or anti-communism.
La UniverIdad Catolica de Chile tiene un himno en alemán? Muchas canciones tienen esta melodía, como por ejemplo "Amy go home", "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp", "God Save Ireland" etc
The soviet occupation of East Germany can hardly be called imperialist or even oppressive, they destroyed the Reich and enforced socialism in a country filled to the brim with nazis. As much as I love Chairman Mao maoist splits from ML parties are almost always western counterrevolutionary plants. Imagine worrying about (real) problems in the GDR while most of Germany is under a nazi-imperialist regime. Definite L
Well as a German I want to object. Soviet occupational forces were stationed in Germany even after the GDR was established as an officially ‘sovereign’ nation that was able to enforce socialism itself. The GDR also had to defer to Moscow in all important questions, the Soviets thereby had control over another nation. If that’s not imperialism, what is? But all that doesn’t really matter anymore because we got rid of them anyway ;)
>not oppressive Never forget the 17th of June, 1953. Is it an "antifascist action" to prevent people from protesting against increases in workload and low wages by gunning them down? Also never forget the fact that this "great country" had to put up a goddamn wall with armed guards to prevent people from leaving it. Isn't it strange that the supposed fascists in the West never had to use tanks against their own people or prevent them by force from leaving it?
@@blau2034that's were the beauty of this song comes to play. It acknowledges that and protests against military occupation in germany indiscriminately. A well differenciated piece of music. Greetings from North Germany
Or it might have had to do with the fact that the Americans could train a spy, send them to West Berlin and next day they have a spy in the Eastern Bloc, easy no effort required.
No the ideological car crash would be Honecker, Stalin or Mao talking about peace, freedom and socialism while forcing people into the army, building walls, spying on and brutally punishing their people.
Man kann sehen das du nicht weißt was Sozialismus ist. Was haben wir für Freiheiten im Moment? Die Freiheit ausgebeutet zu werden? Die Freiheit Angst darum zu haben ob man den nächsten Tag etwas zu essen hat? Die Freiheit einfach so aus der Wohnung geschmissen zu werden? Die Freiheit zuzusehen wie Firmen Besitzer sich schicke Autos kaufen indem sie die Ressourcen benutzen die DU erwirtschaftet hast? Aber keine Sorge wir kämpfen trotzdem für deine Freiheit.
@@heindaddel4619 wir leben bereits in einer Mangelwirtschaft, das sieht man an der Armut in der gesamten Welt. Der Großteil der Menschheit leidet unter Kapitalismus, ganze Länder werden ausgebeutet damit die oberen paar Prozent denn dadurch gewonnen Wohlstand bunkern und von denn Menschen fernhalten können. Frage, denkst du es ist moralisch vertretbar ein Preisschild auf Wasser, Nahrung und Unterkunft zu packen obwohl diese Dinge Menschenrechte sind?
As a German I really like their songs, because they mix socialism with the wish for the Germans to be a united, sovereign People among brothers without being occupied by either Americans or Russians. Thanks a lot for uploading this!
But it doesn't make sense at all, at 2:14 for example they show clearly that they like Stalin while not liking the GDR which was created and more or less controlled by Stalin...
Youre reverting try better
@@Minecraftzocker135 stalin plan for germany was a United germany, anyone that studied The post War negotiations knows this. Under stalin there was no wall. The americans wanted to completely balkanize germany, look up roosevelt plans for post War germany.
@@Minecraftzocker135thats simply not true
Didn't knew that German anti-revionist communists made another rendition of God Save Ireland, which German communists also made another one which is called "Go home, Ami, Ami go home!".
Which “God save Ireland” was a parody of “Tramp tramp tramp”
@@lukebishop7288 and Tramp Tramp Tramp was an American song about a captured American soldier who wanted to go home. 😁
"Коммунисты Анти-революционеры", это же антонимы, они настолько разные, что как можно было коммунистом назвать Анти-революционера?
@@Ковёр-у2ч анти ревизионист
Обычно имеется ввиду полный неподержка 20 съезда КПСС
Walls?
Nah, bunkers.
Maoist Germany isn’t real it can’t hurt you.
Maoist Germany:
Can Germans even be Maoist? Do Maoist not prioritize third worldism? Genuinely curious
@@zacharyhughes2950 damn that’s recent
@@zacharyhughes2950 Maoists are kinda vague, but nah, they actually weren't necessarily Maoists, especially not after 1978, they are more close to Hoxhaist anti Revisionists.
@@zacharyhughes2950 not really! maoists believe that the revolution starts on the oppresed countries but it will definetely reach the imperial core at some point
"Wie viele Feinde wollt ihr euch machen?"
"Ja."
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@@Deleted_User001-o0 das man sowohl gegen den Westen als auch gegen den Osten als auch gegen den demokratischen Sozialismus der 68er steht.
Sie stellen sich gegen DDR, Bourgeoisie, deutsche Teilung also auch die Alliierten und die BDR gleichzeitig. Also so ziemlich alle
Die KPD/ML war sowohl gegen die USA als auch die Kontrolle der Sovietunion in der DDR und entsprechend auch gegen die Teilung Deutschlands in Ost West. Damit haben sie sich effektiv alle Lager zum Feind gemacht und wurden in der DDR von der Stasi unterwandert und zerschlagen.
@@Deleted_User001-o0 Zu kommunistisch für Rechts, zu patriotisch für Llinks und zu viel Meinung für die Mitte. Diese Gesinnung ist ausgestorben.
That symbol goes Hard asf
Damn, those german Communists must have really loved irish Music
Original song is American
The only DDR I can get behind.
Based
Its the same melody as god safe Ireland
and also "Ami go home"
似乎有另一首曲子也是這個旋律🤔
I don't know much about the KPD/ML, but from this song I get the vibe that at least half their members were undercover cops.
I really don't want to insult your intelligence so I'll just say "No investigation, no right to speak."
The east German section was, the western one was not
the east german one was baned and shatered by the staat security (stasi)
the west german never had even 1000 members
@@roedagardet But one has to admit that if he really didn't know much about the KPD/ML before, that was a pretty good guess since the MfS (Stasi) took great efforts to infiltrate and break the Eastern group.
a western germany separatistic communist party, had nothing to do with GDR socialist dictatorship od russian communistis like Stalin.
KPD/ML symbol looks cool
Yeah!
What's the source of the melody?
You might also know it from the song "Ami go home"
god save ireland
"Tramp Tramp Tramp"
an old american song ....... the irish also adaptet it
I know the melody from Ally's Tartan Army, Scotland's world cup song the first time they qualified.
DDR never truly independent .
isn't "Deutschland, du sollst frei sein" Germany you should/shall be free instead of will be free?
no not really only if you translate literally but as a German it means more like must be free or like you said shall be free. It's certainly not should
@@fidgeysrii4888 Es tut mir leid, I suppose you're right.
@@communistcommissar no worries comrade
@@fidgeysrii4888 Genosse*
Die Irische Einfluss ist schön zu hören. Ist ein sehr schönes Lied.
my goodness it's god save ireland, tramp tramp tramp and ami go home again
I WAS THINKING THAT
Wow I love this song!!!!!
I love the flag. It includes a rifle, unlike the USSR flag. What does the rifle represent? :)
Солдат
The armed proletariat
That’s a rifle?
maybe it was for design choice to trick gunloving americans to side with them?
In the song they call to arms, to remove the foreign superpowers from the east and west
Communists trying not to fight amongst themselves for 0.001 seconds (utterly impossible)
as if there arent like 6000 variants of liberalism
@fate8007 Yes but when capitalism itself is being threatened, they have no trouble cooperating with one another as much as possible to "defend democracy" aka retain their power.
@@daniels0376 Liberlism, yes. Capitalism, hell nah
@@daniels0376 because at the end they are united under the same masters, something communist aren't.
Oha, hab ich was verpasst...?
Zur Steigerung sollte der Hammer durch eine Fabrik ersetzt werden, das Gewehr durch eine Wasserstoffbombe und die Sichel durch einen Traktor.
die KPD/ML war gegen Rationalisierung
Question, what is revisionism?
And is this song socialist or marxist?
Revisionism is this context are capitalist elements in a marxist-leninist state.
Revisionism is an ideology that tries to promote interests of capitalists and their servants while using communist words, phrases and symbols .
Socialism is a wide range of teachings about how to make the life good for the people. Marxism is scientific socialism, when you don't just dream about changes, but when you figure out, who and how can really make life better, - and act with that in mind.
So this song is socialist and marxist.
Revisionism means aproaching to the west opposite to stalin and mao
@@timonurcikan8196 ohhhh, so Gorbachev was a revisionist?
@@clownshow_5727 Yes, and Kruschev, and Brezhnev, and Andropov (all of the post-Stalin leadership, and Kruschev specifically also replaced the leaderships of the countries the USSR protected like Romania with social-fascists). And Deng Xiapoing's clique in China restored capitalism.
There's not a single socialist country right now, but in China there's a strong anti-revisionist student movement, in India there are the Naxals, in the Philippines, Peru and Turkey there are true socialist movements in revolt. Not all hope is lost
I dont like socialists, but the sentence "chase the superpowers out, become your own man of the house" is something I agree with! ❤🇩🇪
Germany will be an independent country again some day
@@Dan-xt7sv europe is under the hand of usa, unfortunate that the Germans have lost their teeth and allow themselves to be walked all over
@@Dan-xt7sv We are already "free"
You want to chase people out of your country, but not in socialist way. Then you're simply a you-know-who sympathizer
@@fipsvonfipsenstein6704free from any independent thought, USA big daddy
Funny that a Hoxhaist and Stalinist ML group is the one to call out revisionism, but they were cooking with this song. 🗣🔥🔥
You’re a philistine and a revisionist. Little bourgeois.
? Aren’t they literally anti revisionist?
@@TricaGamer there are always people for whom you are a revisionist/betray the revolution
From the pictures of Mao, it seems that though they were right about the DDR, their alternative was even worse.
Они не были правы насчёт ГДР
Though this wasn't permanent since a few years after their founding, they started officially distancing themselves from Maoism and started viewing it as a harmful element of the earlier party.
@@GespenstDesKommunismusdidn’t they become hoxhaist
@@theotter6279 One can surely put it that way
Привет от российских маоистов!)
Comrade, we're all Marxists. Let us leave the debates for after the revolution is completed. Otherwise, the reactionaries will always win
Was ist "God save Ireland"? Ich dachte, ist es die Melodie "Ami, Go home"😂
were these guys close to naz-bols ? Sounds more patriotic/nationalistic than any other communist songs
No, not at all. KPD/ML were a part of the anti-revisionist New Communist Movement of the 60's to 80's. This movement was critical of the soviet union and held ideological unity with the Chinese Communist Party under Mao, due to his theories of Soviet "social"-imperialism. This song isnt appealing to any nationalist sentiment, but a proletarian one. Marxists in the New Communist Movement believed that any occupying power is a blockade to any revolution, thats why the Chinese led a "new democratic" struggle before the socialist revolutionary struggle, its why Palestinians today fight for the national-liberation of Palestine before the just proletarian liberation that must happen thereafter.
KPD/ML saw both the capitalist imperialist West Germany (a vassal state of the US) AND the social-imperialist East Germany (a vassal state of the then revisionist USSR) as a divider of the German proletariat, which was a necessary analysis, because a split proletariat cant be a strong proletariat. KPD/ML under no circumstances was aligning itself to any bourgeois nationalist movement, it rightly saw what the true nature was of both German states, that of reaction, and proceeded to struggle to end the divide and unify Germany, which was a popular opinion among Germans and the correct line to hold (in my opinion).
The same logic applies to North and South Korea. North Korea has fallen to the exact same social imperialism as the USSR did, and as China has after the right wing of the Communist Party of China (represented by Deng Xiaoping) won the struggle with the left wing, represented by Mao Zedong. A unification of the Korean people, is the only correct solution and path to a truly socialist Korean republic, even if it means that the gains of the Korean people during the Korean war for liberation might completely have gone to waste, but one can say that they already have under the revisionist leadership of modern North Korea.
"Naz-bol"ism or "patriotic socialism" is a meme ideology that i dont think has ever existed with any popular support or relevance. Today its a meme ideology held by people who would rather go "ideology-shopping" or simply fell to the propaganda of a right-wing "patriotic-socialist" grifter on Twitter.
Generally many socialist struggles have included national liberation struggles, i can see how it can be easy to confuse that with patriotism, but the key difference is who and why. Communists fighting for national liberation are doing so as part of the process to free the proletariat from any given nation-state, "nationalists" (meaning right wing nationalists, because many great nationalist struggles have been progressive, i.e. Palestine, Ireland, Black nationalism etc.) do so out of chauvinism, racism, or anti-communism.
@@olafur7892 hmmm okey thanks
Spree, les meilleurs cornichons de l'univers... la preuve, s'il en fallait, qu'aucun système ne dépasse le socialisme 😁😁
👍
Yes
Esa cancion es el himno de la UniverIdad Catolica de Chile.
😮
La UniverIdad Catolica de Chile tiene un himno en alemán? Muchas canciones tienen esta melodía, como por ejemplo "Amy go home", "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp", "God Save Ireland" etc
Did...did they just steal the melody of Ally's Tartan Army?
".."
So they sing "chase the superpowers out" while holding up Stalins portrait...
How to Lose friends and alienate people. Totally lost. 😂😂😂
Pseudo anti-revisionists
Only non-germans see this, this way!
Jaren Terrace
Rhytm of this lied is the same like Ami ho home
Mao Zedong Thought is the never-fading sunlight
The soviet occupation of East Germany can hardly be called imperialist or even oppressive, they destroyed the Reich and enforced socialism in a country filled to the brim with nazis. As much as I love Chairman Mao maoist splits from ML parties are almost always western counterrevolutionary plants. Imagine worrying about (real) problems in the GDR while most of Germany is under a nazi-imperialist regime. Definite L
Any party brutally opressing a workers strike has lost their mandate to rule, sadly the SED turned out to be fascists
"Western plants"=criticizing Revisionism nowadays.
Well as a German I want to object. Soviet occupational forces were stationed in Germany even after the GDR was established as an officially ‘sovereign’ nation that was able to enforce socialism itself. The GDR also had to defer to Moscow in all important questions, the Soviets thereby had control over another nation. If that’s not imperialism, what is? But all that doesn’t really matter anymore because we got rid of them anyway ;)
>not oppressive
Never forget the 17th of June, 1953. Is it an "antifascist action" to prevent people from protesting against increases in workload and low wages by gunning them down?
Also never forget the fact that this "great country" had to put up a goddamn wall with armed guards to prevent people from leaving it. Isn't it strange that the supposed fascists in the West never had to use tanks against their own people or prevent them by force from leaving it?
@@blau2034that's were the beauty of this song comes to play. It acknowledges that and protests against military occupation in germany indiscriminately. A well differenciated piece of music. Greetings from North Germany
DDR beste
besuchen 👍
treffen 👍
Essen👍
How ironic that the people complaining about a wall are the ones who built it
That isn't what happened.
Or it might have had to do with the fact that the Americans could train a spy, send them to West Berlin and next day they have a spy in the Eastern Bloc, easy no effort required.
Under Stalin there was no wall at the Spree
These were West German communists that opposed both German gouvernments
It was a song of the west german socialists, which were kinda against east germany as it was just a puppet of the USSR
ideological-car crash
Its maoism
no its hoxhaism@@altfrlf
No the ideological car crash would be Honecker, Stalin or Mao talking about peace, freedom and socialism while forcing people into the army, building walls, spying on and brutally punishing their people.
@@ABPHistoryno its just marxism-leninism
Was nun, frei oder sozialistisch? Beides geht nicht.
Nerv uns nicht bitte und jetzt verpisse dich
Man kann sehen das du nicht weißt was Sozialismus ist. Was haben wir für Freiheiten im Moment? Die Freiheit ausgebeutet zu werden? Die Freiheit Angst darum zu haben ob man den nächsten Tag etwas zu essen hat? Die Freiheit einfach so aus der Wohnung geschmissen zu werden? Die Freiheit zuzusehen wie Firmen Besitzer sich schicke Autos kaufen indem sie die Ressourcen benutzen die DU erwirtschaftet hast? Aber keine Sorge wir kämpfen trotzdem für deine Freiheit.
@@pascalsch14 Schade um die schönen Buchstaben, in der sozialistischen Mangelwirtschaft können wir uns solch eine Verschwendung nicht erlauben.
@@heindaddel4619 wir leben bereits in einer Mangelwirtschaft, das sieht man an der Armut in der gesamten Welt. Der Großteil der Menschheit leidet unter Kapitalismus, ganze Länder werden ausgebeutet damit die oberen paar Prozent denn dadurch gewonnen Wohlstand bunkern und von denn Menschen fernhalten können. Frage, denkst du es ist moralisch vertretbar ein Preisschild auf Wasser, Nahrung und Unterkunft zu packen obwohl diese Dinge Menschenrechte sind?
Da weiß wer nicht was Sozialismus ist und hat trotzdem so eine große Klappe 👀
sozialistisch und vereint war Deutschland all die Jahre zuvor, 1932 bis 1945 aber das hat ihnen ja missfallen :-/
Klar. Deutschland war da so sozialistisch wie die ''Demokratische Volksrepublik Korea'' demokratisch ist
Dummschwätzer
Das dritte Reich war nicht sozialistisch es war Kapitalistisch. Sozialistisch im Namen zu haben bedeutet nicht das man sozialistisch ist.
Oh ja, die Naz!s waren sozialistischen. Natürlich natürlich 😂😂
@@mycommentmyopinion was waren die Nationalsozialisten dann ???? ;-/