Thank you to everyone who stuck around since my last video! It's been really sweet to see so many returning faces! 🤗 Obviously, I could only fit super short caricatures of these identities into one video. But you COULD write full books about every single one! So feel free to expand on anything I've said in the comments. Just be sure to remain friendly and grant other people the freedom of having their own opinion. 🫶 //Edit: I love that I've already been called a right winger, a left-winger, a liberal and a socialist. Anybody wanna call me an Anarcho-Georgist to complete my bingo card? 😂
I live in Alsace and really love Germany. I'm disappointed by how much worse France currently is in many ways (security, cleanliness, industry, culture) compared to France.
Lucas, I loved the video i think i enjoyed it more than jj mcculloughs one. But I wished you would have talked about the Red Army faction in the extremists section because they are a unique part of the german extremists section and their pretty unknown to lots of people outside Germany.
I think a group you missed is the Bildungsbürgertum. The (educational) petty elite. Teachers, professors, highly skilled proffesions like doctors, engineers and architects, civil servants or, as I notice as one myself, journalists. Usually university educated and from a family with a similar level in education. They are generally not rich, but with a good and reliable income. Concered with public matters and the 'less fortunate', they are often disconnected from people who struggle on a daily basis or only meet them in professional relationships. They are often active in local politics, church or social organisations, wanting to help in a well meaning, but patronising way. They are well informed about local and global politics. Newspaper readers, with full bookshelfs. Despite this they always are surprised when they learn that people don't concern themselves with politics or why someone would not vote in an election.
This is also where the Gutmensch lives. A person that wants to improve the world through virtues but doesn't really need to care because they themselves are well off. Basically the boomer version of the SJW. Because they are well off they don't have the drive to get deeply involved in politics. They want to be political to the point where they are part of the good guys and not so far that they lose their optimistic world view. Because they have decent wealth they are not interested in the left wing radicalism that their college kids lean towards. Because they don't have too many problems of their own they are mostly concerned about other people and trying to be virtuous to the point where they consider "less fortunate" an offensive expression. Because they have formal education they are immune to facebook rage bait or right wing populism but since they are too happy and educated to consume anything but mainstream media there is basically no chance for them to deviate from the moderate leftist norm. They are the arch enemy of the frustrated, uneducated and rightist Wutbürger.
what? no they didn't. because germany got a really sh°°ty pseudo-legalization that is absolutely not going to work. it's basically meant to touch the black market as little as possible to then say "look, legalization doesn't work", even though it's not a legalization at all, it's a somewhat expansive decriminalization with uniquely severe constraints on production, which is only permitted in non-profit licensed clubs that sell at cost to a number of members limited to 1000 in order to require an absolutely enormous mountain of paperwork. and homegrowing is only permitted up to three plants (or three flowering females, not sure), which is the lowest limit I have ever heard of being permitted, other jurisdictions do 5-10. but then one is only permitted to have 50g of product at home, which is certainly less than one should expect to harvest from three plants (more like 100g per plant, or for a nice healthy big one outdoors up to 500g, in ideal much warmer climate like california a few kilos are possible), and for a lot of people that means that they're not allowed to just grow outdoors and store enough from the regular autumn harvest to last a year. indoor growing is a huge waste of electricity and money for equipment. the limits are set at absurdly paranoid low levels - commercial grows consist of dozens to many hundreds of plants at a time, you don't give cover to commercial growers by allowing 8 plants and 300g or something like that. beside the fact that decriminalization over legalization is nothing but a gift to organized crime because the market stays illegal, there is no reason to push those limits anywhere near that low.
Could not agree more. He's like a German hbomberguy, in regards to video quality and frequency. And as expected from a German version of hbomberguy, he's calm and collected, instead of being... Well English 😂 P.S. I am a big fan of hbomberguy's work and am in no way attempting to cause disrespect or insult of his character. I was committing something, which Americans seem to struggle with, called banter.
@LucasBenderChannel I love how TH-cam offers a translation for this that really translates nothing but takes everything to the left of the 2 soccer balls and turns it into a yellow heart! Oh, and hund becomes hound!! 😂
#tribe36 The Vereinsmensch: The people that spend most of their free time working for the Verein (club). Those people are the ubsung heroes that are holding communities together. Especially in rural areas.
Guns are a constitutional right in America, driving fast isnt in Germany. Theres no really good comparison actually. Imagine you like grilling big beefsteaks and your neighbour is summoned by the smell and starts to warn you about healthrisks of eating beef and starts to calculate passive agressively how much vegetebales could have been grown on the land that was used to feed the cow that is on your barbeque...
Lucas. With only two, now three videos, you've cemented yourself as one of my favorite political commentators on TH-cam. I've watched your videos numerous times and I'm sure this new one will be no different. Please make more.
In Portuguese, "Justiça Social" (Social Justice, literally) has the German rather than American meaning - it's about people having the income to live with dignity, fighting hunger, providing public education and healthcare... A famous quote by left-wing economist Maria da Conceição Tavares: "If you are not concerned with justiça social, with those that have to pay their bills, you are no serious economist - you're a technocrat!"
@@adelinod.5568 I would say that it has a more expansive meaning in the UK and refers more to human rights and minority rights. It would not be uncommon to use social justice and economic justice next to each other, the latter meaning more of what is being described here around wealth and class.
I think this is more about the poverty of intelectual discourse in the US, without an actual economically left party (we have a center-right party and far-right party)it leaves the only space for progressive politics to be mainstreamed in the US is if it is focused on identity. We see the Democratic party leaders activly push back at any attempt to link economic equality with racial equality. Most famously epitomized by neo-liberal Hillary Clintons critique of Socialist Bernie Sanders hostility to the Banking sector by saying "But if we broke up the Banks, would that end Racism!?".
@@MarkWhiley wouldn't that also be the meaning in USA, whenever a liberal or a progressive talks about social justice it's kinda implicit that they refer to both human rights (minority rights being a part of it) and economic inequality, just that for the more intense social justice types that economic inequality is also primarily correlated with identity (blacks are poorer, women get paid less, etc). Idk I'm not American.
3:30 As a greek myself, I totally agree. Fun fact: The Greeks are not actually THAT lazy, in fact, they're the people who have the most work hours a week in all of europe... Though that probably just shows we arent payed nearly enough and we need to resort to working a lot😎💪😎🇬🇷💪😎💪
The thing with these working hours is that the statistics is misleading. At least in Germany, it does not distinguish between full time and part time jobs, and thus a lot of part time working single mums make the values ... murky. No idea about the situation in Greece though...
Educated Germans know about this. As far as I understand, it was your elite who screwed Greece over and it was the general population who had to pay post 2008. To watch the news and witness which cuts had to be made to ,ake Greece financially afloat again was depressing.
An interesting addition to the Bavarian is the fact that the three women shown as examples here are conservative, green-progressives and liberal respectively. While Bavaria is a conservative state, a very obvious one at that, this kind of Bavarian identity is compatible with basically every political ideology. By itself it’s not really a political statement at all. Conservatives tend to lean into their Bavarian identity in a different way though. Especially talking down to other states is more or less exclusively a conservative thing.
That's exactly why I chose them! Thank you for pointing it out! 🤗 The CSU might like to imagine that it has a monopoly on the Bavarian identity, but no - it's embraced all throughout the political landscape!
@_jpg true. I think ranting on the state of the railway is perhabs the most unifying aspects of German life. I can't think of another topic with more potential for agreement. Maybe the weather, but that could escalate into a climate debate.
We had the Transrapid supporters but they got destroyed by the esoteric enviornmentalists (Transrapid track looks too ugly in the Landscape[ Wind turbines apparently dont])
@@jessevandeinsen4202 Yeah .. but since the common liberal "German" doesn't believe in nationhood anymore, it should just be "Federal Citizen" (Bundesbürger or just Bürger). The common German patriotism wich you might find is just based on silly little stereotypes, and being "thankful to live a wealthy democracy"... so there are even immigrants who will identify themselves as "german", but it's just a shallow facade. ... and the Neonazis and Trumpists who see themselves as German patriots are just really dumb, and don't even know their own history in most cases.
My German teacher is definitely the pro-German narcissist 😭 like I’m a dual French-American citizen and she’ll just take a dig at the French for no reason every now and then and then just stare directly at me
Well at least I assume that it would not be too hard to find a French teacher taking a dig at the Germans for no apparent reason, either. 70ish years of alliance is just not enough to erradicate three centuries of mutual dislike further than preventing each other from the occasional invasion...
Not entirely as there is nothing to suggest it would make anything safer. The only actual benefit would be minimal reduce in emmission but thats negligable. Theres really no reason to change the way it is rn other than leftists being upset
5:30 So many of the stereotypes of Gemany today, are Bavarian, mainly because the American occupation zone was mainly in Bavaria. The soldiers brought the ideas they saw back home, and the US is, of course, the dominant influencer of world culture.
As a Polish person what shocked me the most is the fact, that you can actually talk normally about politics without hating each other - in my country political polarisation get so far, that it is even common to break relations with some family members because of opposing views. This is probably because we do not agree about principles on wchich our country should be built. But speaking about Germany - in Poland we have many stereotipes of german politics. For example for us all germans are like EU-Megafans. For many people Germany and EU are synonymical - for many right wing people subordination to EU is literally new german occupation. Also AFD is highly unpopular in Poland because their resentiment to "eastern Germany" (Danzig, Breslau, Stettin etc.). Other stereotype about german polititians is "Haven't we heard enough?" man, or similar - many polish people believe, that germans falsifies their history to look less evil or just to relativize their guilt "mabe we commited some crimes, but others also".
That's really interesting! Can I ask: If you yourself had to make a video about the Polish tribes, what are interesting faces you could talk about, that are special to Poland? 💜🇵🇱
@@LucasBenderChannel - Janusz Korwin Mikke worshippers - People Republic nostalgics - Church ladies - Coal miners (clinging desperately to their dwindling work) That's 4; 31 to go xd
I always thought of it as quite sad that people of countries east of Germany think Germany is falsifying its history and overlook Germany´s pretty big efforts to take responsibility for the crimes and learn from the mistakes that lead to the third reich. Its especially sad to see a lot of hatred towards Germans in comment sections of videos about the third reich. How much percent of the polish people you know think like that?
@@berserkeroflove Most of people intrested in history that I know. Those who doesn't care about history also doesn't care about historical narrations. What we don't like the most is tries to share the guilt of Holocaust with rest of Europe, making distinction between nazi and Germany (like Angela Merkel saying about ally "liberation" of Germany, like German people wasn't responsible for war, but was also victims, and Germany was occupied by nazis). The third think is that it seems like in Germany crimes against other nations than Jews are forgotten. For example Polish nation was also planned to be exterminated, over 6 milion Polish citizens were killed and our country was totally devastated. So after all I think that people in Poland just have different perspective than in Germany. While for most of the world "bad Germany" started with Hitler, for us nazis are only continuation of Germany doing bad things. Very often historians start our conflict with medieval times, when Germans expanded into Slavic lands and often invaded Poland. But in fact modern conflict started with partitions of Poland in XVIII c., which was initiated by Prussia. In next century Polish people were second category citizens of Germany. Germans wanted to germanise us, some laws discriminated Polish people, for example it was harder for us to buy land. Finally we've got independence, but even Weimar Republik wasn't a big fan of Polish borders and was making moves in international politics to recover at least some of lands lost to Poland. So for us WWII and nazism are only prelongation of conflict. Some people even extrapolate it - there was first reich, which wanted to subdigate Poland, second reich that controll much of Polish teritory directly and wanted more, third reich that everybody knows what did, and now we have the fourth reich - the EU, which also want to rule Polish people. Last year we had important parliamentary elections, and pro govermental newspaper had big thumbnail "third cadency or fourth reich", wchich suggested, that if oposition win the elections, they will subdigate Poland to the EU.
19:00 On Reichsburgers. I know at least two other movements of similar sort, in the US and Russia. American ones call themselves ‘sovereign citizens,’ and they believe that the US is a corporation, the Articles of Confederacy is the real constitution and is still an active law, cars operate according to maritime law, and, most famously, that the police is obliged to let them free if they ask ‘Am I being detained’? In Russia, those are citizens of USSR. They also believe USSR still exist, that Russia, Kazakhstan, etc. are corporations, but they also have extensive lore on jewish reptilians that govern those corporations, and on interterrestreal origin of all Slavic/White people. I wonder whether other countries have similar conspiracy theories and, if yes, what are they like.
Interesting right? There must be a very specific human urge in these folks to rebel against the given circumstances in that way. Cause it really isn't unique to any nation.
@@LucasBenderChannel Yep, a fascinatingly hyperspecific kind of schizophrenia. At least, I’ve seen no evidence that these theories are somehow inspired by each other. And the bio of the founder of Soviet citizens seems to exclude possibility that he knew English or German
@LucasBenderChannel The internet also lets them cross-polinate massively. Plenty of conspiracy theories already make no sense, but when they get exported to other countries and partially misunderstood they become completely unhinged.
I teach high school German in Kansas and have students who are constantly asking for opportunities to learn more about Politik. I'm certainly sharing this with all my classes. Danke für das tolle Video!
French guy here, I'm also an EU megafan, which is definitely unusual in my country. You're definitely right about our motives, considering my experience with Volt Europa (who are definitely part of that tribe) a lot of us simply want to be part of a great superpower that shares more in common than it does today, like a large federation.
@@fr4rq236 I would say the majority doesn't really care about us, they may see us as an eccentric odd bunch. Then you have a growing number of euroskeptics influenced by populist parties, who see us as morons who are being used by the system.
@@fr4rq236 The annoying euroskeptics see us as agents of a terrible system, whereas the bulk of the population probably doesn't care much about us, they might just think we're weird.
I don't know if I would say the cause of the EU-Megafan's love of the EU is simply "insecurity". The point you brought up about being overshadowed by the US or China is a real concern. Having a large union which can negotiate things like trade policy as a bloc is simply the practical approach.
i feel like in my country the EU-megafans are just people that really appreciate eu funds and want to feel "european", also being in EU means not being on the other side (so usually pro russian if we look at europe) hence any sort of anti eu rhetoric is instantly deemed a russian propaganda
And it's also an utopy - that's not just fear driven. But a united Europe without nations is a Europe without wars or borders. I think, the "insecurity" claim fails as well, as this is perhaps the only group that still has a positive utopy at all ;)
We have a similar version of the "Haven't we heard enough?" in the UK. I've been seeing a lot of rhetoric about: "oh well the empire wasn't completely bad" or "it's in the past just forget about it" and it's really disgusting.
Well, who do you think ended the slave trade in Europe? Sure, the British empire was a big player in the slave trade, but what other nation/empire would be willing and capable of ending it? If it wasn't for Britain, slavery would go on way longer than it has. Even if you believe that it means nothing, since Britain was in major way responsible for it, and this act only corrected one of it's many wrongdoings. Once again, which other nation/empire can claim that it put serious effort into such endeavor? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_for_the_Suppression_of_the_African_Slave_Trade
@@fuka1000000 I appreciate that Britain did put effort into stopping it. My problem is I hear people using this an excuse for everything before, which it shouldn't be used for at all
@@evilgoose6768 That's fair, I completely agree that most revisionist efforts are based solely on political goals, instead of a fair appraisal of history. It's pretty tragic.
Adding to what you said about the lack of politicians with migration background or, as I would argue, a certain invisibility of persons with a migration background in mainstream culture: I think the self-conception of German society is quite different from for example Canada because the latter sees itself as a society or country of immigration while this is not the case in Germany. Despite a lot of people from various countries came to Germany for various reasons (refugees, guest workers, family members etc), this did not change this idea of German society being a rather homogenous thing. This can for example be seen in the establishment of the Gastarbeiterverträge ("guest worker treaties") in the 1960s. The idea was that the workers come to Germany for a limited time to help mitigating the lack of workforce in that time. It was never planned that they would stay but that they leave Germany. Them staying here was an unplanned outcome. There is a famous quote by Max Frisch: "Wir riefen Arbeitskräfte, aber es kamen Menschen" ("We called for workers, but instead people arrived") which summarises this sentiment. To make it short: I think there is a discrepancy between the idea of not being a country of immigration and the reality
To enforce your point wait till you see how much direct and indirect discrimination people from South -South East Asia and Africa faces in daily life. The German govt wants skilled people to come over and contribute but the society simply can't accept them even those who tries to integrate into the society they are still treated as outsiders. I am also planning to leave here no point of paying 40+% of my income in taxes only to get discriminated against.
i’m romanian - the eastalgic character definitely exists here too! often with the exact same arguments that your friend ana described. your video and JJ’s kind of inspire me to do something similar for romania, but i sadly would probably lack the production quality to be able to see it through
I honestly think production quality should not worry you at all! 🤗 J.J.'s version barely included any animation and I struggled with sound and video quality. We all lack something. So don't worry about any of that! I'd love to see more videos like this and I'd recommend you give it a shot! Just maybe don't go for 35 tribes right away! 😅 haha This was a LOT of work. Instead of 35, maybe try making one about 10 or 12 special characters, that are super unique to Romania! That'd be enough to start with and a really interesting watch! :) If you do decide to work on something like this, you can always hit me up on Instagram for advice! 💛🇷🇴
as a nerd american political scientist it’s fascinating to me how disloyal germans are to parties. Here political behavior is so tied to one’s identification with one of the two parties it’s almost impossible to conceptualize how anyone who even decide to vote in Germany. Here even people who know a lot about politics still tend to follow the party.
Propably one reason is your voting system. Majority vote systems tend to lead to two party systems because any dissent would only lead to the other party winning everything. Im proportional Systems the need for loyalty is lower because you're going to have a coalition anyway I'd say
German here. Even as a 25 year long party member I don't always only vote for my party candidate. I'm a proud and free citizen in a democratic federal welfare state.
This is partially because German parties overlap so much in their politics, I think. Say I'm a progressive centrist who usually votes for the SPD, but I'm dissatisfied with the candidate they're running. In that case I can just cast my vote for the Greens instead, without wasting my vote or "crossing the aisle" so to speak. If I was American instead, then as a progressive centrist, I probably vote for the Democrats. If I'm dissatisfied with their candidate... well, then I probably have to vote for the Democrats anyway, because it's not like I agree with the Republicans on anything.
Thank you for making your videos accessible in so many languages!!! It's such a rare find since youtube removed the community captions programme. Again, thank you for the effort!!! It's greatly appreciated!
Alright, see ya again in the next 2 years! The ORR enthusiast struck me as the most odd btw. I'm from 🇧🇦 btw. Also, #tribe36 should've been diaspora nationalists. They're different from Orban/Erdogan/Putin fans, as they actually have family in the country that they're nationalists for. And some support smaller ultra nationalist organizations in their "home" country. Like the BPNP for Bosnia. Most of their financial support came from the Bosniak diaspora.
It looks like it goes under the category of the backgrounder tribe (or mb the extremist one). With Bosnian BPNP, Turkish Grey Wolves etc. it looks more like they are not the part of the German political landscape but rather than the political landscapes of their respective countries. For example, I am from Azerbaijan and we have several political influencers that reside in Germany. They may have the significance here but I bet almost noone knows or cares about them in Germany itself
there's a lot of pride in the örr coming from a point of it's intended neutrality, as it's set up in a way to protect against government overreach. once again lessons learned from the past.
I would personally see myself as ÖRR Enthusiast, but in a much different way as described in the video. I couldn't care less about Markus Lanz and other political talkshows, but I think our public broadcasters are one of our most valuable accomplishments. I think the ÖRR gets much too much undeserved hate, especially from bad faith populist actors, who just want to get rid of critical voices.
Tribe Suggestion Perhaps similar to the Bavarian but universalised: the "Lokalpatriot" (local patriot) Politicians/voters that carry sentimentalism about local culture and care about promoting/embodying what region or state they are from. For example this might appear in form of a state politician keeping dialects, and local traditional vocabulary instead of conforming to "high German" (the standard form of German). For the Germans: The idea came to mind when recalling Björn Höcke and Mario Voigt arguing whether one says "Mettbrötchen" or "Gehacktes-Brötchen" (a bun with minced raw pork) in Thuringia.
Was? Deswegen haben die sich ernsthaft gestritten? 😅 Aber ja du hast absolut recht! Lokalpatriotismus kann man auch in allen anderen Regionen finden. :)
28:44 being Italian the Movimento 5 Stelle popping up killed me on the spot (Italy already has this "fluid" state of political parties and the oldest (major)party today was made in 2007)
32:56 the wahl-o-mat is also an expression of German gesture for structure and order. I fully agree that this is indeed a great distraction from real politics because the tool just looks up the answers to a set of questions in the election programs and in reality you can write there whatever you wish without any consequences because we never have a one-partie-government and not complying to your plans can therefore always be excused by compromise within a coalition government.
I’m an American but have lived in Germany for a while. Many of these profiles accurately described many of the people I’ve met and became friends with. Brilliant insight. Danke schon!
Oh wow!!! An amazing new Lucas Bender video - eager to learn more about German politics with this. I mostly knew the info on the parties, but here it's all new to me!
As an East german, I agree with most the things said about the east, but with one big exception: In the video your friend said that east germans do not appreciate press freedom, however, I would say they couldnt care less. In my family everybody is fully east german (even in the advanced family which is approximately up to 40-50 people) and I cant think of anything that angers them more then the press (may it be newspapers or ÖRR) not giving all information, being biased or straight up patronizing. They get so furious when they feel any of these described. The best examples of this are debates whether certain words are allowed, their opinions on migration and in general their political views. I would love to know from other east germans reading this whether they agree more with me or your friend from the video
They want all the information to make their own opinion out of it and not someone who tells them that everything is okay and good or that they should behave in a certain way. And this is also why freedom of press is so important because they want to see things from other perspectives and backgrounds rather than relying on one source or only state run media
That's fair and a very common desire. 👍 The wish that media overall should be less opinionated. Less value-driven. But would you describe that view as "Eastalgic"? Remember, I wasn't talking about all East Germans, but about the specific set of people who would see the current state of the media and go: "It was better in the GDR"
@@LucasBenderChannelI would consider them to be part of the eastalgic‘s but with this exception. They fit into the narrative described in the video but with this exception on the media. Actually I have not experienced someone not valuing freedom of press here
I think in addition to the young, American-oriented SJWs, there's also a group of older people fighting for minorities' rights. Like, the stereotype of a lesbian feminist in her 60s who fought at the students' movement and hippie protests during the 80s. They share the general sentiment, but in quite different ways, and old-school SJWs can be very interested in the new gen z movements, or outright dismissive of them as 'not doing it right'.
As an American, this is a great way to learn about the metapolitics of a country that I am not a native to. JJ helped me better understand Canada's political tension and you have for Germany.
I am no expert on this topic by any means, but I have a few ideas: Things in general are a lot denser. Cities are closer to each other, and are built up denser within themselves. Kids and older people use public transport to get around (and older people make up a big part of the voter base due to demographics). Also, and more broadly, it's just very hard to change anything in this country. Both the state's bureaucracy and the people's behaviours are very allergic to change. Even extreme amounts of money often can't change that. In the case of the auto industry eradicating public transport this may have worked in our favour, but it may also explain why 80% of German businesses still use fax machines.
Another reason is that Germany has no oil resources and gas prices are very high in comparison to other countries (and are expected to grow even further with a possible introduction of a CO2 tax). It's also generally expensive to own a car because of car tax, limited and expensive parking, yearly mandatory check-ups (which can cost you a small fortune if they find some minor issue with your vehicle that needs to be fixed), insurance etc.
@@mrcool7140 American cities were also much denser prior to the 1950s. I also suspect that the state having any involvement at all was a factor. Most American transit operators prior to the Second World War were entirely private companies who just got bought up, either by oil/car companies or by local governments expecting a replacement system of monorails or whatever.
@@ivanskrypov4030 The US just demolished most of its city centers to make room for parking. And gas prices are now very high in the US. The people who complain about gas prices the most are in fact those who drive the biggest pickup trucks and would consider any other mode of transport effeminate/beta.
Wow, that was very entertaining. I have always been interested in learning about the politics of different countries. I think it would be cool if people from other countries did something similar to.
I've waited so long for this video and it was really worth the wait. As someone who (despite my name) is not actually from Germany, I was able to recognise most of these tribes in the Germans I've met. Especially the Bavarian exceptionalists. They're very easy to spot.
I discovered your channel literally yesterday. Then I checked your uploads and realized you create a new video like once every 2 years. Then, 24 hours later, you release a new one. How is that even possible?
Great to see you posting a video again. Your take on Russia Understanders disappearing is one I sadly have to disagree with. As somebody living in Saxony, a state in which there'll be elections this year the three strongest parties according to polls in AfD, CDU and BSW are all known for their affinity towards Russia on either a federal or state level. In case you're wondering about CDU being listed there, MP Michael Kretschmer is a prime example of a Russia Understander.
Hey hey, great video, one tribe I think maybe looking at the European elections result is maybe "Bauchwahler" or Stomach voter. People who are kind of apolitical generally but maybe come out as fiercely political when their personal standard of living drops (bread, energy, kepap prices) I realise this kind of describes everyone alive in a democracy to an extent but yeah.
"The other parties don't court the anger citizen, quiet the opposite actually" meanwhile at CDU/CSU central: "How much more racist do we have to become to get more votes"
Normalerweise rege ich mich immer ein bisschen über stark simplifizierte Videos auf, aber ich finde du schaffst es jedes mal gut die Kurve zu kriegen und kritisch anzumerken, dass Dinge wie Erinnerungskultur vll nur ein Image sind und nicht unbedingt gelebt werden. Really appreciate ya :)
Das ist sehr lieb, danke! Ja, man riskiert bei diesen "Edutainment"- Videos immer sehr schnell eine Linie zu übertreten. Was ist zu stark verkürzt? Was verfälscht die Fakten durch einen saloppen Gag? Ich selbst finde vieles in diesem Video im Nachhinein vieeeel zu unausgegoren - also freut mich der Kommentar umso mehr! :)
Ich habe mit tatsächlich erst vor ein paar Tagen erneut dein Video zu den deutsche Parteien angeguckt und mit gedacht, dass der Zeichenstil doch stark dem von JJ ähnelt :D
I legit let out a little “aAaHhh~” squeal when I saw you posted. I’m not transcribing the sound of joy the best, but I thought you should know lol. Also, should we expect that “high budget background” to get JJ-ized?
That thirty-five tribes video is one of my favourite videos by J.J. :D I'd thought to myself at the time that this would be an interesting and creative trend for other cultural/political TH-camrs to follow, so I'm glad to see this video pop up in my feed. I'm glad you gave them their own Banjo-Kazooiesque voice lines like in the original video :3
I love how you bring up the Mittelstand-guy-sentiment of "the companies are way better at running things and the government is destroying everything with its bureaucracy". Then you try to buy a couch at one of those mid-sized non-ikea furniture stores and see the vendor DOS-hack through an obscure form for 10 straight minutes and hand you a bunch of needleprinted papers for the warehouse.
when I first watched JJ's "35 tribes" video, I really loved it, but since I'm Canadian, I knew a lot of that information so it was a bit of "preaching to the choir". Since then, I really hoped that someone would make a similar video about THEIR country, since I loved the concept so much. so, when your video popped up in my recommendations, I clicked instantly - and it was really fascinating! Even more since I get to compare the two countries/videos and see how similar or different we are. subscribed! now I need to watch your other two videos, as they both interest me as well lol
The video turned out so amazing. Since I saw a little preview of the eastalgic part I've been extremely excited. So, excited that I couldnt wait to get home and watched the first half on my way home in the tram. 🙈 Also, very happy about the pitti platsch. Ironically it was my favourite plushie as a kid 😂😊
The same goes for the far left, well, at least in my country. They talk about defending agendas that the entire population agrees and wants, but in reality these are things that only they care about in their small circle. I believe the same goes for the right.@@Conankun66YT
i think another group might be the verry vocal ÖRR critic. these really exist on all sides of the political spectrum, from alot of younger people who find the ÖRR outdated and find they don't represent the youth (often also quite vocal funk critics aswell), people who simply don't wan't to pay that much and often want to abolish ÖRR along with other measures for a smaller government, to the far right and conspiricy theorist types who view the ÖRR as government propaganda really good video btw
True. I almost wanted to include that in the ÖRR segment! But there are many different shades of how much people dislike the ÖRR. From moderate reformists to those calling to outright abolish them. And their reasons are multi-facetted as well. Explaining all that would've made the segment too long. 🙉
I knew implicitly that there was variety in German political culture, but Germany has a really strong vibe as "The sensible grown up of Europe" and I think especially now Merkel has gone it's an extra reminder that it's not just one monolith of politics, but there's genuine diversity of views that shouldn't be captured in one or two stereotypes, nor as you point at the end can 35 come close to the fidelity of human views. Very happy to see Germany pushing more money towards Ukraine and reversing the constitution to address a modern europe; and thanks for sharing so many viewpoints we don't always see outside of Deutschland.
Point 1 is the reason there has been so much authoritarianism in former Warsaw Pact countries. You talk to those people and they were SO NAIVE about capitalism. They thought they were joining developed nations as siblings, but they were being bought up for pennies on the dollar.
You'd expect the communist education system to have prepared them against that naivety, but it was probably so dogmatic and simplistic that they learned nothing about actually looking critically at how capitalism works.
I feel like every country has: -the excentric part which is about to declare independence any day now, just you watch -the economicaly depressed "forgoten" part -the urban part, which is (at least in imagination of more rural people) expensive, ignorant, crime ridden and full of foreigners -some movements which are just transplants from America, but locals feel like this one is unique because of some rather arbitrary distinquishing mark
Trying to relate this to italian politics is quite interesting. The biggest difference I’m noticing is the absence of an equivalent to the german center. “The center” doesn’t exist on a national level, every region has its own definition, which can be extremely diverse
A few days ago i watched your german political parties video and enjoyed it. Then scrolled around your channel, but so disappointed because i believed you were inactive. This video made me happy that you are still making videos. Keep it up with these, Gut gemacht!
55 minutes flew by very quickly, it's just very interesting (greetings from Tyumen), thank you for the work done. I hope that we will also have democracy in Russia someday, and we will still build our beautiful Russia of the future, a country where one person will not hold power for a quarter of a century, where there will be no wars, political assassinations and repressions. It occurred to me - why not tell us about the political groups of Russia in the nineties (then we still had democracy). 1) Moscow liberals, in many ways their ranks consist of young people and intellectuals. They supported Yeltsin's course, the course of market reforms. In the presidential elections of 91 and 96, they voted for Yeltsin, in 93 and 95 for the democratic choice of Gaidar, and then they would vote for Yabloko and the SPS. They were unhappy with the invasion of Chechnya and other saber rattling. 2) The left liberals and moderates are the electorate of Yabloko and partly of Chernomyrdin's NDR, they are also for the market, but not for the bazaar, for reforms, but also for social policy. They were largely a reaction to the radical market reforms of the Gaidar government, which initially led to a sharp drop in living standards. When the Congress of People's Deputies dismissed Gaidar, Yeltsin decided to nominate Chernomyrdin, who has a reputation as a "strong business executive," as the new prime minister. The Communists from the congress hoped that he would start rolling back market reforms, but unfortunately for them the reforms continued, just much slower. Later, Chernomyrdin created the party "Our Home Russia", this party, according to Yeltsin's idea, was to become the party of power instead of Gaidar's party, which failed to win the 1993 Duma elections (15%) The Yabloko is the party of Yavlinsky. He was as liberal as Gaidar, but his program of economic reforms (500 days) was more moderate. Well, in general, Yabloko is a group of liberals dissatisfied with Yeltsin's authoritarian ways. 3) Ice cream lovers, nostalgic for the USSR. These were mostly representatives of the older generation, workers who lost their jobs due to the collapse of industry. Therefore, they hate liberals and want the country to become "great" again, and for ice cream to cost 5 kopecks as before, and for communism to return. They voted for the Communist Party and Zyuganov. Among the leftists, agrarians (allies of Zyuganov's communists) can be distinguished. The agrarians were a party of "rural workers". 4) People who also suffered greatly from market reforms and the collapse of the USSR, but did not support the Communists. These are mostly residents of Siberia and the Far East, many of them had ancestors who went through the GULAG, and therefore these guys did not vote for the communists. They voted for the LDPR, the Zhirinovsky party. Zhirinovsky was an incredible speaker and a right-wing populist. He talked about the problems of the Russian hinterland (Russia differs from Germany in that we have always been a unitary state, all power and money are concentrated in the hands of Moscow, and therefore an incredible amount of money poured into Moscow. And all other Russians dislike Muscovites and envy their standard of living). While liberals looked at the hinterland from a high point of view, they simply did not understand what the hinterland was thinking, what it wanted. Zhirinovsky understood this, and actively used it. He spoke from an imperial, chauvinistic position, he can even be called a fascist (this man said that "a Russian soldier will wash his boots in the Indian Ocean," and of course Zhirinovsky was against the independence of the former Soviet republics) And his party won the elections in 1993 with 23%. It is also worth highlighting Russian nationalists separately among the right-wing. In many ways, they had a common electorate with Zhirinovsky. They voted for General Lebed in the 1996 presidential election, and in 1995 they voted for the Congress of Russian Communities. 5)Naturally, there were extremists in Russia then, both left and right. To our left were Anpilov's Trudoviks. Unlike Zyuganov and his party, who dreamed of returning the USSR from the time of Brezhnev, the Trudoviks wanted to return the USSR from the time of Stalin. The right was literally represented by the Nazis from the RNE, led by Barkashov. Surprisingly, the left and right radicals fought side by side for the Supreme Council during the "Black October". Another confirmation of the horseshoe theory. 6)The nineties were a very difficult time in Russia, as I have already said, Gaidar's market reforms made many Russians impoverished, After many crises, many Russians who are not particularly versed in politics simply wanted stability to return to the country, so that "a strong ruler would come who would fix all their problems by governing the country with an iron hand." And at first, this electorate voted for the "Fatherland of All Russia", which was led by Primakov and Moscow Mayor Luzhkov. Then these people elected a KGB agent, Vladimir Putin, as their president. In 2003, Russia lost democracy, like Germany, where the NSDAP seized the Reichstag, in Russia United Russia (a party created from Putin's "Unity" and the FAR) seized the Duma without letting the liberals from Yabloko and the Union of right forces enter (with the help of falsifications). The politics of the nineties was very interesting, in Russia there were not five spoiler parties in parliament, but more than 10. There was, for example, the women's party, a lot of small liberal parties. And even the beer lovers' party participated in the 1995 elections (how do you like Germans? Here you don't have a party of beer lovers) I am interested in German politics, I think, among other things, because we have a similar history. Our nineties are your Weimar. The first Russian democracy lived for 12 years, the Weimar Republic lived for 14 years. Both you and we then had a presidential republic, which eventually fell under the influx of populists. The Great Depression and the default in Russia in 1998 led to one result - the Democrats lost power. And giving all these analogies, I want to hope that we will be waiting for the same as Germany - that Russia will become a free and democratic country, part of a united Europe.
I’m not German, I don’t even live in Germany but I enjoy these videos so much for its overall balance (humor, informative, animations, use of language and tone). Liked and subscribed!
About “conspiracy theorists” and “Reichsbürgers” to be exact. We have those in Russia too, however they are thinking that USSR still exists on paper due to disbelief in some paperwork from 1991 when the dissolution happened. They have their own communities, have huge beef with police, showing them Soviet passports, arguing about the existence of USSR and blah blah blah. (By the way those communities mentioned before they actually sell certificates which say that you are officially have Soviet citizenship, while in really it’s worth nothing)
It's really amazing that these folks exist in seemingly every corner of earth! They all give different and hyper-specific reasons for why their government is supposedly illegitimate... and yet they must be driven by the same desire, right? They're so similar. It's fascinating.
Absolutely love the illustrations, it’s great to put a human face to politics, think it would help a lot of people to find politics more relatable and engaging
As an American, I actually love how chill German politics seem. Over here, you dare not say outloud that you are "moderate" or a "centerist"; those are dirty words. When you're getting to know someone through conversation, you might get to a point where you look over your shoulder before saying "you, uh... you aren't fully on one side or the other, huh?" Then when they nod, you discreetly high five. 😆
Thank you for shedding light on this :). As someone who lives in the US, I remember when we used to have a strong pull towards the center. Sadly, nowadays politicians here compete to be more extremist than their opponents. Who can hate their own party more, who can promote more violence or intolerance, who can go further off the deep end. I wish we could import some of German politics' center-pull. We need more balance right now.
Thank you to everyone who stuck around since my last video! It's been really sweet to see so many returning faces! 🤗
Obviously, I could only fit super short caricatures of these identities into one video. But you COULD write full books about every single one! So feel free to expand on anything I've said in the comments. Just be sure to remain friendly and grant other people the freedom of having their own opinion. 🫶
//Edit: I love that I've already been called a right winger, a left-winger, a liberal and a socialist. Anybody wanna call me an Anarcho-Georgist to complete my bingo card? 😂
Ngl. The russia bear picture would have been perfect if you added a tiny Ushanka with a Russian Flag on top of its head.
I live in Alsace and really love Germany. I'm disappointed by how much worse France currently is in many ways (security, cleanliness, industry, culture) compared to France.
Lucas, I loved the video i think i enjoyed it more than jj mcculloughs one. But I wished you would have talked about the Red Army faction in the extremists section because they are a unique part of the german extremists section and their pretty unknown to lots of people outside Germany.
@@conorbolger9441 If I ever make a video on Helmut Schmidt and the 1970s, I'm definetly going to cover them!
Just want to say that I think a full video about Germany's extremists would be very interesting!
I think a group you missed is the Bildungsbürgertum. The (educational) petty elite.
Teachers, professors, highly skilled proffesions like doctors, engineers and architects, civil servants or, as I notice as one myself, journalists. Usually university educated and from a family with a similar level in education. They are generally not rich, but with a good and reliable income.
Concered with public matters and the 'less fortunate', they are often disconnected from people who struggle on a daily basis or only meet them in professional relationships. They are often active in local politics, church or social organisations, wanting to help in a well meaning, but patronising way.
They are well informed about local and global politics. Newspaper readers, with full bookshelfs. Despite this they always are surprised when they learn that people don't concern themselves with politics or why someone would not vote in an election.
Absolutely! A very good addition! 💪
keep the doctors an engineers out. They are teachers and retired teachers! ;-)
I feel described 😅
This is also where the Gutmensch lives. A person that wants to improve the world through virtues but doesn't really need to care because they themselves are well off. Basically the boomer version of the SJW. Because they are well off they don't have the drive to get deeply involved in politics. They want to be political to the point where they are part of the good guys and not so far that they lose their optimistic world view. Because they have decent wealth they are not interested in the left wing radicalism that their college kids lean towards. Because they don't have too many problems of their own they are mostly concerned about other people and trying to be virtuous to the point where they consider "less fortunate" an offensive expression. Because they have formal education they are immune to facebook rage bait or right wing populism but since they are too happy and educated to consume anything but mainstream media there is basically no chance for them to deviate from the moderate leftist norm.
They are the arch enemy of the frustrated, uneducated and rightist Wutbürger.
... Until they realise they're in another one of Germany's tribes, the precariat.
the real faces of the German politics where the friends we made along the way
A tribe that died literally this month is the weed activist. They were almost everywhere
R.I.P.
what? no they didn't. because germany got a really sh°°ty pseudo-legalization that is absolutely not going to work. it's basically meant to touch the black market as little as possible to then say "look, legalization doesn't work", even though it's not a legalization at all, it's a somewhat expansive decriminalization with uniquely severe constraints on production, which is only permitted in non-profit licensed clubs that sell at cost to a number of members limited to 1000 in order to require an absolutely enormous mountain of paperwork. and homegrowing is only permitted up to three plants (or three flowering females, not sure), which is the lowest limit I have ever heard of being permitted, other jurisdictions do 5-10. but then one is only permitted to have 50g of product at home, which is certainly less than one should expect to harvest from three plants (more like 100g per plant, or for a nice healthy big one outdoors up to 500g, in ideal much warmer climate like california a few kilos are possible), and for a lot of people that means that they're not allowed to just grow outdoors and store enough from the regular autumn harvest to last a year. indoor growing is a huge waste of electricity and money for equipment. the limits are set at absurdly paranoid low levels - commercial grows consist of dozens to many hundreds of plants at a time, you don't give cover to commercial growers by allowing 8 plants and 300g or something like that. beside the fact that decriminalization over legalization is nothing but a gift to organized crime because the market stays illegal, there is no reason to push those limits anywhere near that low.
Yeah true!
One shall not forget Christian Ströbele's legendary "Gebt das Hanf frei!" speech.
Well the CDU wants to revive them.
This guy is one of those TH-camrs where he doesn't upload a lot but when he does upload it's an instant classic.
That's very sweet. Thank you :)
Could not agree more. He's like a German hbomberguy, in regards to video quality and frequency. And as expected from a German version of hbomberguy, he's calm and collected, instead of being... Well English 😂
P.S. I am a big fan of hbomberguy's work and am in no way attempting to cause disrespect or insult of his character. I was committing something, which Americans seem to struggle with, called banter.
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A classic, You're easily pleased, are you his mother or some other relative by any chance?🤔
5:07 Bavarians trying not to mention Bavaria: 💀
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@LucasBenderChannel I love how TH-cam offers a translation for this that really translates nothing but takes everything to the left of the 2 soccer balls and turns it into a yellow heart!
Oh, and hund becomes hound!!
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Haha, love your humor
Ich liebe Bayern!
(Ich bin ein Englischer)
2 YEAR UPLOAD SCHEDULE, WE ARE SO BACK
so true
Wir sind so zurück , desweiteren deklarieire ich als deutcher die antworten dieses kommentares als eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland
#tribe36 The Vereinsmensch: The people that spend most of their free time working for the Verein (club). Those people are the ubsung heroes that are holding communities together. Especially in rural areas.
alles für den Dackel, alles fürden Klub :D
Seems like the Speed Limit debate in Germany has much in common with the gun debate here in the states.
Yeah, the difference just lies in liking things that go boom and liking things that go vroom.
@@Conartist666 we could even say OK vroomer to them 😂
it may or may not be germans clinging on to the last thing they think the austrian man did right...
That is completly accurate.
Guns are a constitutional right in America, driving fast isnt in Germany.
Theres no really good comparison actually.
Imagine you like grilling big beefsteaks and your neighbour is summoned by the smell and starts to warn you about healthrisks of eating beef and starts to calculate passive agressively how much vegetebales could have been grown on the land that was used to feed the cow that is on your barbeque...
Bavaria is German Texas
Yee-haw
I 100 percent agree with that analogy.
Fits better than anything I could think up of.
Nah. Bavarians are on a different level of trying too hard.
@@TheDotBot Eh, True.
Texas doesn't need to try nearly as hard to be the "Big Boy" in the Federal republic.
Bavaria is basically Tryharding
Lucas. With only two, now three videos, you've cemented yourself as one of my favorite political commentators on TH-cam. I've watched your videos numerous times and I'm sure this new one will be no different. Please make more.
That's super kind and also ridiculous. I appreciate it!^^
In Portuguese, "Justiça Social" (Social Justice, literally) has the German rather than American meaning - it's about people having the income to live with dignity, fighting hunger, providing public education and healthcare...
A famous quote by left-wing economist Maria da Conceição Tavares: "If you are not concerned with justiça social, with those that have to pay their bills, you are no serious economist - you're a technocrat!"
I would say it´s similar in the whole of Europe compared with the US or Brazil.
Even in the US I went to a Catholic school and the teachers there used that definition for the term in the context of relevant classes.
@@adelinod.5568 I would say that it has a more expansive meaning in the UK and refers more to human rights and minority rights. It would not be uncommon to use social justice and economic justice next to each other, the latter meaning more of what is being described here around wealth and class.
I think this is more about the poverty of intelectual discourse in the US, without an actual economically left party (we have a center-right party and far-right party)it leaves the only space for progressive politics to be mainstreamed in the US is if it is focused on identity. We see the Democratic party leaders activly push back at any attempt to link economic equality with racial equality. Most famously epitomized by neo-liberal Hillary Clintons critique of Socialist Bernie Sanders hostility to the Banking sector by saying "But if we broke up the Banks, would that end Racism!?".
@@MarkWhiley wouldn't that also be the meaning in USA, whenever a liberal or a progressive talks about social justice it's kinda implicit that they refer to both human rights (minority rights being a part of it) and economic inequality, just that for the more intense social justice types that economic inequality is also primarily correlated with identity (blacks are poorer, women get paid less, etc). Idk I'm not American.
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As a greek myself, I totally agree.
Fun fact: The Greeks are not actually THAT lazy, in fact, they're the people who have the most work hours a week in all of europe...
Though that probably just shows we arent payed nearly enough and we need to resort to working a lot😎💪😎🇬🇷💪😎💪
the problem wasnt that nobody in greece worked its that nobody paid taxes
the problem isnt laziness its culturally engrained tax fraud
The thing with these working hours is that the statistics is misleading. At least in Germany, it does not distinguish between full time and part time jobs, and thus a lot of part time working single mums make the values ... murky. No idea about the situation in Greece though...
Educated Germans know about this. As far as I understand, it was your elite who screwed Greece over and it was the general population who had to pay post 2008. To watch the news and witness which cuts had to be made to ,ake Greece financially afloat again was depressing.
An interesting addition to the Bavarian is the fact that the three women shown as examples here are conservative, green-progressives and liberal respectively. While Bavaria is a conservative state, a very obvious one at that, this kind of Bavarian identity is compatible with basically every political ideology. By itself it’s not really a political statement at all.
Conservatives tend to lean into their Bavarian identity in a different way though. Especially talking down to other states is more or less exclusively a conservative thing.
That's exactly why I chose them! Thank you for pointing it out! 🤗 The CSU might like to imagine that it has a monopoly on the Bavarian identity, but no - it's embraced all throughout the political landscape!
Bavaria is the Quebec of Germany.
Which three women are you referring to? I can’t find them in the video.
Which three women are you referring to? I can’t find them in the video.
@@JJSogaard At 6:35. They're all politicians but from different parties.
He remembered the password
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Where are my "railway enthusiasts/infrastructurists"? 😂
Literally me
"Railway enthusiast" sounds like an oxymoron, given the sad state of our privatised rails 😢
#tribe36
@_jpg true. I think ranting on the state of the railway is perhabs the most unifying aspects of German life. I can't think of another topic with more potential for agreement. Maybe the weather, but that could escalate into a climate debate.
We had the Transrapid supporters but they got destroyed by the esoteric enviornmentalists (Transrapid track looks too ugly in the Landscape[ Wind turbines apparently dont])
If my math works out, given the current rate of videos and the increase in length, we can expect a 5:14:58 long video in approximately 2 years
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@@BritishRepublicsn I'm here for münecat or Jenny Nicholson length in-depth political analysis.
🔖 *CHAPTERS* 🔖
00:00 Intro
01:02 Left-behind East German
02:25 Anti-German Pessimist
02:55 Pro-German Narcissist
03:44 Climate Doomer
04:59 Bavarian Exceptionalist
07:38 Social Christians
08:46 Russia-Understander
10:58 The Center
12:21 Erdoğanist/Putinist/Orbánist
13:15 Union Man
14:32 Eastalgic
17:41 The Rich
18:37 Conspiracy Theorist
20:09 EU-Megafan
21:45 Social Justice Warrior
23:29 Anger-Citizen
25:26 Rural & Urban Vote
26:58 Young & Old Vote
28:57 Migration-Background
31:55 Uninterested
32:59 Auto über alles
34:35 Pacifist
36:10 Haven’t we heard enough?
38:21 Mittelstand
39:58 Esoterics
41:18 Community Politician
42:02 Extremists
42:46 Grey Mouse
44:48 Ancient Elite
46:22 ÖRR Enthusiast
48:31 Transatlantic
49:55 Data-Protector
50:50 Party-Soldier
52:54 Tribe 36
53:43 Final Thoughts
I am dutch, but today i learned that indeed we are just swamp germans
Hey, at least you're not Belgium
or maybe Germans are just Highlanders
@Schampu4000 its the small victories in life
@@Judah132 more Heide-landers then Highlanders.
@@jessevandeinsen4202 Yeah .. but since the common liberal "German" doesn't believe in nationhood anymore, it should just be "Federal Citizen" (Bundesbürger or just Bürger).
The common German patriotism wich you might find is just based on silly little stereotypes, and being "thankful to live a wealthy democracy"... so there are even immigrants who will identify themselves as "german", but it's just a shallow facade.
... and the Neonazis and Trumpists who see themselves as German patriots are just really dumb, and don't even know their own history in most cases.
My German teacher is definitely the pro-German narcissist 😭 like I’m a dual French-American citizen and she’ll just take a dig at the French for no reason every now and then and then just stare directly at me
Oh nooo 🙈 I'm so sorry! 😂
🗿 lmao sedanstag
Meh, I have french ancestry and even I take random jabs at the French, as is tradition ;)
Well at least I assume that it would not be too hard to find a French teacher taking a dig at the Germans for no apparent reason, either. 70ish years of alliance is just not enough to erradicate three centuries of mutual dislike further than preventing each other from the occasional invasion...
That just sounds like a unnecessary complications of the word patriot
The speed limit debate in Germany, is the German version of the banning firearms debate in the USA.
Both are useless because banning something doesn't hinder criminals from doing something it only takes away freedom from the people.
Not entirely as there is nothing to suggest it would make anything safer. The only actual benefit would be minimal reduce in emmission but thats negligable. Theres really no reason to change the way it is rn other than leftists being upset
I'm German myself and as soon as I saw JJ's Video I desperately wanted this type of video for German politics. Thanks dude!
Same
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So many of the stereotypes of Gemany today, are Bavarian, mainly because the American occupation zone was mainly in Bavaria. The soldiers brought the ideas they saw back home, and the US is, of course, the dominant influencer of world culture.
I am guilty of being an EU Megafan. you hit the nail on the spot with everyone
me too
Me too🫡🇮🇪🇪🇺
Yep me three.
me too. I was born in Germany and grew up in Ireland. So I see myself more as European than any nationality
I find myself between EU enjoyer and Peace enthusiast
I knew this subscription would pay off eventually
As a Polish person what shocked me the most is the fact, that you can actually talk normally about politics without hating each other - in my country political polarisation get so far, that it is even common to break relations with some family members because of opposing views. This is probably because we do not agree about principles on wchich our country should be built. But speaking about Germany - in Poland we have many stereotipes of german politics. For example for us all germans are like EU-Megafans. For many people Germany and EU are synonymical - for many right wing people subordination to EU is literally new german occupation. Also AFD is highly unpopular in Poland because their resentiment to "eastern Germany" (Danzig, Breslau, Stettin etc.). Other stereotype about german polititians is "Haven't we heard enough?" man, or similar - many polish people believe, that germans falsifies their history to look less evil or just to relativize their guilt "mabe we commited some crimes, but others also".
That's really interesting!
Can I ask: If you yourself had to make a video about the Polish tribes, what are interesting faces you could talk about, that are special to Poland? 💜🇵🇱
@@LucasBenderChannel - Janusz Korwin Mikke worshippers
- People Republic nostalgics
- Church ladies
- Coal miners (clinging desperately to their dwindling work)
That's 4; 31 to go xd
I always thought of it as quite sad that people of countries east of Germany think Germany is falsifying its history and overlook Germany´s pretty big efforts to take responsibility for the crimes and learn from the mistakes that lead to the third reich. Its especially sad to see a lot of hatred towards Germans in comment sections of videos about the third reich. How much percent of the polish people you know think like that?
@@berserkeroflove Most of people intrested in history that I know. Those who doesn't care about history also doesn't care about historical narrations. What we don't like the most is tries to share the guilt of Holocaust with rest of Europe, making distinction between nazi and Germany (like Angela Merkel saying about ally "liberation" of Germany, like German people wasn't responsible for war, but was also victims, and Germany was occupied by nazis). The third think is that it seems like in Germany crimes against other nations than Jews are forgotten. For example Polish nation was also planned to be exterminated, over 6 milion Polish citizens were killed and our country was totally devastated. So after all I think that people in Poland just have different perspective than in Germany. While for most of the world "bad Germany" started with Hitler, for us nazis are only continuation of Germany doing bad things. Very often historians start our conflict with medieval times, when Germans expanded into Slavic lands and often invaded Poland. But in fact modern conflict started with partitions of Poland in XVIII c., which was initiated by Prussia. In next century Polish people were second category citizens of Germany. Germans wanted to germanise us, some laws discriminated Polish people, for example it was harder for us to buy land. Finally we've got independence, but even Weimar Republik wasn't a big fan of Polish borders and was making moves in international politics to recover at least some of lands lost to Poland. So for us WWII and nazism are only prelongation of conflict. Some people even extrapolate it - there was first reich, which wanted to subdigate Poland, second reich that controll much of Polish teritory directly and wanted more, third reich that everybody knows what did, and now we have the fourth reich - the EU, which also want to rule Polish people. Last year we had important parliamentary elections, and pro govermental newspaper had big thumbnail "third cadency or fourth reich", wchich suggested, that if oposition win the elections, they will subdigate Poland to the EU.
"High Budget Background" haha
Totally not stolen from @NALFVLOGS ;)
Really happy to see you here Julia! 🤗
19:00 On Reichsburgers.
I know at least two other movements of similar sort, in the US and Russia.
American ones call themselves ‘sovereign citizens,’ and they believe that the US is a corporation, the Articles of Confederacy is the real constitution and is still an active law, cars operate according to maritime law, and, most famously, that the police is obliged to let them free if they ask ‘Am I being detained’?
In Russia, those are citizens of USSR. They also believe USSR still exist, that Russia, Kazakhstan, etc. are corporations, but they also have extensive lore on jewish reptilians that govern those corporations, and on interterrestreal origin of all Slavic/White people.
I wonder whether other countries have similar conspiracy theories and, if yes, what are they like.
Interesting right? There must be a very specific human urge in these folks to rebel against the given circumstances in that way. Cause it really isn't unique to any nation.
@@LucasBenderChannel Yep, a fascinatingly hyperspecific kind of schizophrenia. At least, I’ve seen no evidence that these theories are somehow inspired by each other. And the bio of the founder of Soviet citizens seems to exclude possibility that he knew English or German
The lore thickens
@LucasBenderChannel The internet also lets them cross-polinate massively. Plenty of conspiracy theories already make no sense, but when they get exported to other countries and partially misunderstood they become completely unhinged.
I teach high school German in Kansas and have students who are constantly asking for opportunities to learn more about Politik. I'm certainly sharing this with all my classes. Danke für das tolle Video!
Oh that makes me really happy! Thank you! 🥰
Best wishes to your students! 👋
I hope J.J. started a trend. Similar to tier or iceberg videos, I’d love to see more “35 tribes” videos!
Absolutely! And non-political ones too! I wanna see 12 kinds of football fans, or 8 types of Chefs or the 20 types of teachers! 😊
@@LucasBenderChannel 12 types of Rizz Party attendees
French guy here, I'm also an EU megafan, which is definitely unusual in my country. You're definitely right about our motives, considering my experience with Volt Europa (who are definitely part of that tribe) a lot of us simply want to be part of a great superpower that shares more in common than it does today, like a large federation.
May I ask how EU megafans are seen in France?
@@fr4rq236 I would say the majority doesn't really care about us, they may see us as an eccentric odd bunch. Then you have a growing number of euroskeptics influenced by populist parties, who see us as morons who are being used by the system.
@@fr4rq236 The annoying euroskeptics see us as agents of a terrible system, whereas the bulk of the population probably doesn't care much about us, they might just think we're weird.
leftists hate them for being collaborators of the capital/imperialists and rightwingers hate them for being rootless cosmopolitans
@@fr4rq236 Isn´t Macron like the "highest ranking" EU megafan in the EU? Why is it then that it is unusual in France?
I don't know if I would say the cause of the EU-Megafan's love of the EU is simply "insecurity". The point you brought up about being overshadowed by the US or China is a real concern. Having a large union which can negotiate things like trade policy as a bloc is simply the practical approach.
i feel like in my country the EU-megafans are just people that really appreciate eu funds and want to feel "european", also being in EU means not being on the other side (so usually pro russian if we look at europe) hence any sort of anti eu rhetoric is instantly deemed a russian propaganda
And it's also an utopy - that's not just fear driven. But a united Europe without nations is a Europe without wars or borders.
I think, the "insecurity" claim fails as well, as this is perhaps the only group that still has a positive utopy at all ;)
Ost + Nostalgie = Ostalgie
We have a similar version of the "Haven't we heard enough?" in the UK. I've been seeing a lot of rhetoric about: "oh well the empire wasn't completely bad" or "it's in the past just forget about it" and it's really disgusting.
Well, who do you think ended the slave trade in Europe?
Sure, the British empire was a big player in the slave trade, but what other nation/empire would be willing and capable of ending it? If it wasn't for Britain, slavery would go on way longer than it has.
Even if you believe that it means nothing, since Britain was in major way responsible for it, and this act only corrected one of it's many wrongdoings. Once again, which other nation/empire can claim that it put serious effort into such endeavor?
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@@fuka1000000 I appreciate that Britain did put effort into stopping it. My problem is I hear people using this an excuse for everything before, which it shouldn't be used for at all
@@evilgoose6768 That's fair, I completely agree that most revisionist efforts are based solely on political goals, instead of a fair appraisal of history. It's pretty tragic.
Adding to what you said about the lack of politicians with migration background or, as I would argue, a certain invisibility of persons with a migration background in mainstream culture: I think the self-conception of German society is quite different from for example Canada because the latter sees itself as a society or country of immigration while this is not the case in Germany. Despite a lot of people from various countries came to Germany for various reasons (refugees, guest workers, family members etc), this did not change this idea of German society being a rather homogenous thing. This can for example be seen in the establishment of the Gastarbeiterverträge ("guest worker treaties") in the 1960s. The idea was that the workers come to Germany for a limited time to help mitigating the lack of workforce in that time. It was never planned that they would stay but that they leave Germany. Them staying here was an unplanned outcome. There is a famous quote by Max Frisch: "Wir riefen Arbeitskräfte, aber es kamen Menschen" ("We called for workers, but instead people arrived") which summarises this sentiment. To make it short: I think there is a discrepancy between the idea of not being a country of immigration and the reality
To enforce your point wait till you see how much direct and indirect discrimination people from South -South East Asia and Africa faces in daily life.
The German govt wants skilled people to come over and contribute but the society simply can't accept them even those who tries to integrate into the society they are still treated as outsiders.
I am also planning to leave here no point of paying 40+% of my income in taxes only to get discriminated against.
I feel like "instead humans arrived" would be a better translation😊
i’m romanian - the eastalgic character definitely exists here too! often with the exact same arguments that your friend ana described. your video and JJ’s kind of inspire me to do something similar for romania, but i sadly would probably lack the production quality to be able to see it through
I honestly think production quality should not worry you at all! 🤗
J.J.'s version barely included any animation and I struggled with sound and video quality. We all lack something. So don't worry about any of that! I'd love to see more videos like this and I'd recommend you give it a shot!
Just maybe don't go for 35 tribes right away! 😅 haha
This was a LOT of work. Instead of 35, maybe try making one about 10 or 12 special characters, that are super unique to Romania! That'd be enough to start with and a really interesting watch! :)
If you do decide to work on something like this, you can always hit me up on Instagram for advice!
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as a nerd american political scientist it’s fascinating to me how disloyal germans are to parties. Here political behavior is so tied to one’s identification with one of the two parties it’s almost impossible to conceptualize how anyone who even decide to vote in Germany. Here even people who know a lot about politics still tend to follow the party.
Propably one reason is your voting system. Majority vote systems tend to lead to two party systems because any dissent would only lead to the other party winning everything. Im proportional Systems the need for loyalty is lower because you're going to have a coalition anyway I'd say
German here. Even as a 25 year long party member I don't always only vote for my party candidate.
I'm a proud and free citizen in a democratic federal welfare state.
This is partially because German parties overlap so much in their politics, I think. Say I'm a progressive centrist who usually votes for the SPD, but I'm dissatisfied with the candidate they're running. In that case I can just cast my vote for the Greens instead, without wasting my vote or "crossing the aisle" so to speak. If I was American instead, then as a progressive centrist, I probably vote for the Democrats. If I'm dissatisfied with their candidate... well, then I probably have to vote for the Democrats anyway, because it's not like I agree with the Republicans on anything.
Thank you for making your videos accessible in so many languages!!! It's such a rare find since youtube removed the community captions programme. Again, thank you for the effort!!! It's greatly appreciated!
Alright, see ya again in the next 2 years!
The ORR enthusiast struck me as the most odd btw.
I'm from 🇧🇦 btw.
Also, #tribe36 should've been diaspora nationalists.
They're different from Orban/Erdogan/Putin fans, as they actually have family in the country that they're nationalists for.
And some support smaller ultra nationalist organizations in their "home" country. Like the BPNP for Bosnia.
Most of their financial support came from the Bosniak diaspora.
It looks like it goes under the category of the backgrounder tribe (or mb the extremist one).
With Bosnian BPNP, Turkish Grey Wolves etc. it looks more like they are not the part of the German political landscape but rather than the political landscapes of their respective countries. For example, I am from Azerbaijan and we have several political influencers that reside in Germany. They may have the significance here but I bet almost noone knows or cares about them in Germany itself
@@rmeherremli Actually, fair point!
Maybe I could make a 35 Balkan Political tribes video.
there's a lot of pride in the örr coming from a point of it's intended neutrality, as it's set up in a way to protect against government overreach.
once again lessons learned from the past.
I would personally see myself as ÖRR Enthusiast, but in a much different way as described in the video. I couldn't care less about Markus Lanz and other political talkshows, but I think our public broadcasters are one of our most valuable accomplishments. I think the ÖRR gets much too much undeserved hate, especially from bad faith populist actors, who just want to get rid of critical voices.
@@jorgkunischewski9363 Populists generally hate anything impartial.
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Perhaps similar to the Bavarian but universalised: the "Lokalpatriot" (local patriot)
Politicians/voters that carry sentimentalism about local culture and care about promoting/embodying what region or state they are from. For example this might appear in form of a state politician keeping dialects, and local traditional vocabulary instead of conforming to "high German" (the standard form of German).
For the Germans:
The idea came to mind when recalling Björn Höcke and Mario Voigt arguing whether one says "Mettbrötchen" or "Gehacktes-Brötchen" (a bun with minced raw pork) in Thuringia.
Was? Deswegen haben die sich ernsthaft gestritten? 😅
Aber ja du hast absolut recht! Lokalpatriotismus kann man auch in allen anderen Regionen finden. :)
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Welcome back! I love these JJ inspired videos always so informative
28:44 being Italian the Movimento 5 Stelle popping up killed me on the spot (Italy already has this "fluid" state of political parties and the oldest (major)party today was made in 2007)
That “fluid” party system is basically one of my greatest fears when it comes to politics here in Denmark…
@@JJSogaard Why? Fluid means more in tune with the current voting populace.
As an American Catholic, "social justice" is still tied up in that more economic meaning in Catholic institutional circles.
Same thing with actual academic and minority civil rights circles
New Lucas Bender video was a brilliant thing to see on my homepage this evening!
A pleasant surprise
32:56 the wahl-o-mat is also an expression of German gesture for structure and order. I fully agree that this is indeed a great distraction from real politics because the tool just looks up the answers to a set of questions in the election programs and in reality you can write there whatever you wish without any consequences because we never have a one-partie-government and not complying to your plans can therefore always be excused by compromise within a coalition government.
I’m an American but have lived in Germany for a while. Many of these profiles accurately described many of the people I’ve met and became friends with. Brilliant insight. Danke schon!
Oh wow!!! An amazing new Lucas Bender video - eager to learn more about German politics with this. I mostly knew the info on the parties, but here it's all new to me!
The Mittelstand Guy sounding like he comes from Nürtingen ob der Tauber is just sooooo on point 🥹
As an East german, I agree with most the things said about the east, but with one big exception: In the video your friend said that east germans do not appreciate press freedom, however, I would say they couldnt care less. In my family everybody is fully east german (even in the advanced family which is approximately up to 40-50 people) and I cant think of anything that angers them more then the press (may it be newspapers or ÖRR) not giving all information, being biased or straight up patronizing. They get so furious when they feel any of these described. The best examples of this are debates whether certain words are allowed, their opinions on migration and in general their political views. I would love to know from other east germans reading this whether they agree more with me or your friend from the video
They want all the information to make their own opinion out of it and not someone who tells them that everything is okay and good or that they should behave in a certain way. And this is also why freedom of press is so important because they want to see things from other perspectives and backgrounds rather than relying on one source or only state run media
Agree
That's fair and a very common desire. 👍 The wish that media overall should be less opinionated. Less value-driven. But would you describe that view as "Eastalgic"? Remember, I wasn't talking about all East Germans, but about the specific set of people who would see the current state of the media and go: "It was better in the GDR"
@@LucasBenderChannelI would consider them to be part of the eastalgic‘s but with this exception. They fit into the narrative described in the video but with this exception on the media. Actually I have not experienced someone not valuing freedom of press here
I think in addition to the young, American-oriented SJWs, there's also a group of older people fighting for minorities' rights. Like, the stereotype of a lesbian feminist in her 60s who fought at the students' movement and hippie protests during the 80s. They share the general sentiment, but in quite different ways, and old-school SJWs can be very interested in the new gen z movements, or outright dismissive of them as 'not doing it right'.
Yay, finally more plants in the background. Really shows that the production value is going up ;)
High budget 💚
As an American, this is a great way to learn about the metapolitics of a country that I am not a native to. JJ helped me better understand Canada's political tension and you have for Germany.
Why weren't car manufacturers in Germany able to eradicate public transport to the degree they did in the US and Canada?
I am no expert on this topic by any means, but I have a few ideas:
Things in general are a lot denser. Cities are closer to each other, and are built up denser within themselves.
Kids and older people use public transport to get around (and older people make up a big part of the voter base due to demographics).
Also, and more broadly, it's just very hard to change anything in this country. Both the state's bureaucracy and the people's behaviours are very allergic to change. Even extreme amounts of money often can't change that. In the case of the auto industry eradicating public transport this may have worked in our favour, but it may also explain why 80% of German businesses still use fax machines.
Another reason is that Germany has no oil resources and gas prices are very high in comparison to other countries (and are expected to grow even further with a possible introduction of a CO2 tax). It's also generally expensive to own a car because of car tax, limited and expensive parking, yearly mandatory check-ups (which can cost you a small fortune if they find some minor issue with your vehicle that needs to be fixed), insurance etc.
@@mrcool7140 American cities were also much denser prior to the 1950s. I also suspect that the state having any involvement at all was a factor. Most American transit operators prior to the Second World War were entirely private companies who just got bought up, either by oil/car companies or by local governments expecting a replacement system of monorails or whatever.
@@ivanskrypov4030 The US just demolished most of its city centers to make room for parking. And gas prices are now very high in the US. The people who complain about gas prices the most are in fact those who drive the biggest pickup trucks and would consider any other mode of transport effeminate/beta.
In the beginning: They also sold the trucks and busses. They still do, but they love to lobby for the car, rather the mass transport.
Wow, that was very entertaining. I have always been interested in learning about the politics of different countries. I think it would be cool if people from other countries did something similar to.
Definitely worth the wait! Love it
I've waited so long for this video and it was really worth the wait. As someone who (despite my name) is not actually from Germany, I was able to recognise most of these tribes in the Germans I've met. Especially the Bavarian exceptionalists. They're very easy to spot.
I just found your channel yesterday, now did you suddenly upload a new video today?? What a coincidence!
Great timing! But don't worry: I can make you wait for an eternity as well. :*
I discovered your channel literally yesterday. Then I checked your uploads and realized you create a new video like once every 2 years. Then, 24 hours later, you release a new one. How is that even possible?
There’s an online game called the New campaign trail that lets you play different elections, it has a really good one about the 2021 German elections.
Great to see you posting a video again.
Your take on Russia Understanders disappearing is one I sadly have to disagree with. As somebody living in Saxony, a state in which there'll be elections this year the three strongest parties according to polls in AfD, CDU and BSW are all known for their affinity towards Russia on either a federal or state level. In case you're wondering about CDU being listed there, MP Michael Kretschmer is a prime example of a Russia Understander.
I have to agree. I'm living in RLP but im still seeing a lot of them
Hey hey, great video, one tribe I think maybe looking at the European elections result is maybe "Bauchwahler" or Stomach voter.
People who are kind of apolitical generally but maybe come out as fiercely political when their personal standard of living drops (bread, energy, kepap prices) I realise this kind of describes everyone alive in a democracy to an extent but yeah.
German myself, and I wanted to do this kind of video ever since JJ's
"The other parties don't court the anger citizen, quiet the opposite actually" meanwhile at CDU/CSU central: "How much more racist do we have to become to get more votes"
Normalerweise rege ich mich immer ein bisschen über stark simplifizierte Videos auf, aber ich finde du schaffst es jedes mal gut die Kurve zu kriegen und kritisch anzumerken, dass Dinge wie Erinnerungskultur vll nur ein Image sind und nicht unbedingt gelebt werden.
Really appreciate ya :)
Das ist sehr lieb, danke! Ja, man riskiert bei diesen "Edutainment"- Videos immer sehr schnell eine Linie zu übertreten. Was ist zu stark verkürzt? Was verfälscht die Fakten durch einen saloppen Gag? Ich selbst finde vieles in diesem Video im Nachhinein vieeeel zu unausgegoren - also freut mich der Kommentar umso mehr! :)
High Budget Background looking so so good.
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Ich habe mit tatsächlich erst vor ein paar Tagen erneut dein Video zu den deutsche Parteien angeguckt und mit gedacht, dass der Zeichenstil doch stark dem von JJ ähnelt :D
I legit let out a little “aAaHhh~” squeal when I saw you posted. I’m not transcribing the sound of joy the best, but I thought you should know lol.
Also, should we expect that “high budget background” to get JJ-ized?
Definitely not! All the love to J.J. but that maximalist background of his would drive me nuts irl! 😂🫶
That thirty-five tribes video is one of my favourite videos by J.J. :D I'd thought to myself at the time that this would be an interesting and creative trend for other cultural/political TH-camrs to follow, so I'm glad to see this video pop up in my feed. I'm glad you gave them their own Banjo-Kazooiesque voice lines like in the original video :3
I love how you bring up the Mittelstand-guy-sentiment of "the companies are way better at running things and the government is destroying everything with its bureaucracy". Then you try to buy a couch at one of those mid-sized non-ikea furniture stores and see the vendor DOS-hack through an obscure form for 10 straight minutes and hand you a bunch of needleprinted papers for the warehouse.
I literally found your channel yesterday and loved your only two videos. Must be divine intervention you upload today :)
The realization that Bavaria is basically just German Texas has rocked my world to its absolute core.
YOOOO HES BACK
So many things in America that we think are German are just Bavarian 😂
when I first watched JJ's "35 tribes" video, I really loved it, but since I'm Canadian, I knew a lot of that information so it was a bit of "preaching to the choir".
Since then, I really hoped that someone would make a similar video about THEIR country, since I loved the concept so much.
so, when your video popped up in my recommendations, I clicked instantly - and it was really fascinating! Even more since I get to compare the two countries/videos and see how similar or different we are. subscribed! now I need to watch your other two videos, as they both interest me as well lol
That makes me really happy! Thank you for checking it out! ☺️
The video turned out so amazing. Since I saw a little preview of the eastalgic part I've been extremely excited. So, excited that I couldnt wait to get home and watched the first half on my way home in the tram. 🙈
Also, very happy about the pitti platsch. Ironically it was my favourite plushie as a kid 😂😊
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28:21 The ticker reads "J.J McCullough video wins another award"
I think it's good to make distinction between "Climate Doomers" and "Climate activist"
Bavarians are Germany's Texans. The parallels are endless.
47:30 the BILD/DIRT Impression compared to a regular newspaper (is it ZEIT?) is SOO spot on! I love it
Haha thank you! :D
And yes, iirc I modelled it after the ZEIT 🤔😄
I find it goofy the AfD calling themselves "The Center" considering it's the AfD
theyre doing the classic far-right thing where they claim to speak for "the silent majority"
The same goes for the far left, well, at least in my country. They talk about defending agendas that the entire population agrees and wants, but in reality these are things that only they care about in their small circle. I believe the same goes for the right.@@Conankun66YT
i think another group might be the verry vocal ÖRR critic.
these really exist on all sides of the political spectrum, from alot of younger people who find the ÖRR outdated and find they don't represent the youth (often also quite vocal funk critics aswell), people who simply don't wan't to pay that much and often want to abolish ÖRR along with other measures for a smaller government, to the far right and conspiricy theorist types who view the ÖRR as government propaganda
really good video btw
True. I almost wanted to include that in the ÖRR segment! But there are many different shades of how much people dislike the ÖRR. From moderate reformists to those calling to outright abolish them. And their reasons are multi-facetted as well. Explaining all that would've made the segment too long. 🙉
I did not expect him to actually upload. Amazing
I knew implicitly that there was variety in German political culture, but Germany has a really strong vibe as "The sensible grown up of Europe" and I think especially now Merkel has gone it's an extra reminder that it's not just one monolith of politics, but there's genuine diversity of views that shouldn't be captured in one or two stereotypes, nor as you point at the end can 35 come close to the fidelity of human views.
Very happy to see Germany pushing more money towards Ukraine and reversing the constitution to address a modern europe; and thanks for sharing so many viewpoints we don't always see outside of Deutschland.
Oh mein goodness, Bavaria is literally German Texas.
Point 1 is the reason there has been so much authoritarianism in former Warsaw Pact countries. You talk to those people and they were SO NAIVE about capitalism. They thought they were joining developed nations as siblings, but they were being bought up for pennies on the dollar.
You'd expect the communist education system to have prepared them against that naivety, but it was probably so dogmatic and simplistic that they learned nothing about actually looking critically at how capitalism works.
I feel like every country has:
-the excentric part which is about to declare independence any day now, just you watch
-the economicaly depressed "forgoten" part
-the urban part, which is (at least in imagination of more rural people) expensive, ignorant, crime ridden and full of foreigners
-some movements which are just transplants from America, but locals feel like this one is unique because of some rather arbitrary distinquishing mark
It's a good day seeing Lucas posting after so long
Been waiting for this for more than a year
Trying to relate this to italian politics is quite interesting. The biggest difference I’m noticing is the absence of an equivalent to the german center. “The center” doesn’t exist on a national level, every region has its own definition, which can be extremely diverse
Juat noticed your Magdeburn Green party joke from last the video and it being the "recommended party" by the App 😂
A few days ago i watched your german political parties video and enjoyed it. Then scrolled around your channel, but so disappointed because i believed you were inactive. This video made me happy that you are still making videos. Keep it up with these, Gut gemacht!
The yodel sound effect for Bavaria sent me lmao
55 minutes flew by very quickly, it's just very interesting (greetings from Tyumen), thank you for the work done.
I hope that we will also have democracy in Russia someday, and we will still build our beautiful Russia of the future, a country where one person will not hold power for a quarter of a century, where there will be no wars, political assassinations and repressions.
It occurred to me - why not tell us about the political groups of Russia in the nineties (then we still had democracy).
1) Moscow liberals, in many ways their ranks consist of young people and intellectuals.
They supported Yeltsin's course, the course of market reforms.
In the presidential elections of 91 and 96, they voted for Yeltsin, in 93 and 95 for the democratic choice of Gaidar, and then they would vote for Yabloko and the SPS.
They were unhappy with the invasion of Chechnya and other saber rattling.
2) The left liberals and moderates are the electorate of Yabloko and partly of Chernomyrdin's NDR, they are also for the market, but not for the bazaar, for reforms, but also for social policy.
They were largely a reaction to the radical market reforms of the Gaidar government, which initially led to a sharp drop in living standards.
When the Congress of People's Deputies dismissed Gaidar, Yeltsin decided to nominate Chernomyrdin, who has a reputation as a "strong business executive," as the new prime minister.
The Communists from the congress hoped that he would start rolling back market reforms, but unfortunately for them the reforms continued, just much slower.
Later, Chernomyrdin created the party "Our Home Russia", this party, according to Yeltsin's idea, was to become the party of power instead of Gaidar's party, which failed to win the 1993 Duma elections (15%)
The Yabloko is the party of Yavlinsky.
He was as liberal as Gaidar, but his program of economic reforms (500 days) was more moderate.
Well, in general, Yabloko is a group of liberals dissatisfied with Yeltsin's authoritarian ways.
3) Ice cream lovers, nostalgic for the USSR.
These were mostly representatives of the older generation, workers who lost their jobs due to the collapse of industry.
Therefore, they hate liberals and want the country to become "great" again, and for ice cream to cost 5 kopecks as before, and for communism to return.
They voted for the Communist Party and Zyuganov.
Among the leftists, agrarians (allies of Zyuganov's communists) can be distinguished.
The agrarians were a party of "rural workers".
4) People who also suffered greatly from market reforms and the collapse of the USSR, but did not support the Communists.
These are mostly residents of Siberia and the Far East, many of them had ancestors who went through the GULAG, and therefore these guys did not vote for the communists.
They voted for the LDPR, the Zhirinovsky party.
Zhirinovsky was an incredible speaker and a right-wing populist.
He talked about the problems of the Russian hinterland (Russia differs from Germany in that we have always been a unitary state, all power and money are concentrated in the hands of Moscow, and therefore an incredible amount of money poured into Moscow. And all other Russians dislike Muscovites and envy their standard of living).
While liberals looked at the hinterland from a high point of view, they simply did not understand what the hinterland was thinking, what it wanted.
Zhirinovsky understood this, and actively used it.
He spoke from an imperial, chauvinistic position, he can even be called a fascist (this man said that "a Russian soldier will wash his boots in the Indian Ocean," and of course Zhirinovsky was against the independence of the former Soviet republics)
And his party won the elections in 1993 with 23%.
It is also worth highlighting Russian nationalists separately among the right-wing.
In many ways, they had a common electorate with Zhirinovsky.
They voted for General Lebed in the 1996 presidential election, and in 1995 they voted for the Congress of Russian Communities.
5)Naturally, there were extremists in Russia then, both left and right.
To our left were Anpilov's Trudoviks.
Unlike Zyuganov and his party, who dreamed of returning the USSR from the time of Brezhnev, the Trudoviks wanted to return the USSR from the time of Stalin.
The right was literally represented by the Nazis from the RNE, led by Barkashov.
Surprisingly, the left and right radicals fought side by side for the Supreme Council during the "Black October".
Another confirmation of the horseshoe theory.
6)The nineties were a very difficult time in Russia, as I have already said, Gaidar's market reforms made many Russians impoverished,
After many crises, many Russians who are not particularly versed in politics simply wanted stability to return to the country, so that "a strong ruler would come who would fix all their problems by governing the country with an iron hand."
And at first, this electorate voted for the "Fatherland of All Russia", which was led by Primakov and Moscow Mayor Luzhkov.
Then these people elected a KGB agent, Vladimir Putin, as their president.
In 2003, Russia lost democracy, like Germany, where the NSDAP seized the Reichstag, in Russia United Russia (a party created from Putin's "Unity" and the FAR) seized the Duma without letting the liberals from Yabloko and the Union of right forces enter (with the help of falsifications).
The politics of the nineties was very interesting, in Russia there were not five spoiler parties in parliament, but more than 10.
There was, for example, the women's party, a lot of small liberal parties.
And even the beer lovers' party participated in the 1995 elections (how do you like Germans? Here you don't have a party of beer lovers)
I am interested in German politics, I think, among other things, because we have a similar history.
Our nineties are your Weimar.
The first Russian democracy lived for 12 years, the Weimar Republic lived for 14 years.
Both you and we then had a presidential republic, which eventually fell under the influx of populists.
The Great Depression and the default in Russia in 1998 led to one result - the Democrats lost power.
And giving all these analogies, I want to hope that we will be waiting for the same as Germany - that Russia will become a free and democratic country, part of a united Europe.
I apologize if there are mistakes in my comment, I don't know English well and used a translator.
much love, very wow, great art ✨
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I’m not German, I don’t even live in Germany but I enjoy these videos so much for its overall balance (humor, informative, animations, use of language and tone). Liked and subscribed!
About “conspiracy theorists” and “Reichsbürgers” to be exact. We have those in Russia too, however they are thinking that USSR still exists on paper due to disbelief in some paperwork from 1991 when the dissolution happened. They have their own communities, have huge beef with police, showing them Soviet passports, arguing about the existence of USSR and blah blah blah. (By the way those communities mentioned before they actually sell certificates which say that you are officially have Soviet citizenship, while in really it’s worth nothing)
It's really amazing that these folks exist in seemingly every corner of earth! They all give different and hyper-specific reasons for why their government is supposedly illegitimate... and yet they must be driven by the same desire, right? They're so similar. It's fascinating.
@@LucasBenderChannelusually it's the desire to ride cars without having seatbelts on though.
Absolutely love the illustrations, it’s great to put a human face to politics, think it would help a lot of people to find politics more relatable and engaging
As an American, I actually love how chill German politics seem. Over here, you dare not say outloud that you are "moderate" or a "centerist"; those are dirty words. When you're getting to know someone through conversation, you might get to a point where you look over your shoulder before saying "you, uh... you aren't fully on one side or the other, huh?" Then when they nod, you discreetly high five. 😆
Thank you for shedding light on this :). As someone who lives in the US, I remember when we used to have a strong pull towards the center. Sadly, nowadays politicians here compete to be more extremist than their opponents. Who can hate their own party more, who can promote more violence or intolerance, who can go further off the deep end. I wish we could import some of German politics' center-pull. We need more balance right now.