Absolutely BRILLIANT job you’re doing here, man. You are really digging deep! Please do Jaws 3D. That is easily the hardest one to find info and production pics on the various mechanical sharks. In Represent This, we trust! You are the Jaws authority now, brother!
I recall an interview in my mother's Cosmopolitan magazine (1977 or '78) with child model-turned-actress Brooke Shields and her manager-mother Teri, who said, "Brooke personally turned down a role in "Jaws 2". She said she didn't want to get eaten by a plastic shark." 😅
I was too young to see the original at the cinema but my dad who was 6ft 6" got me in to see this one. I was obviously under age but when challenged by a snooty cashier my dad just glared at him saying "he's old enough!" and in we went. I always had a soft spot for this one although the original is a masterpiece.
If those box office numbers aren't adjusted for inflation then those are huge numbers. Even the movies that look like bombs actually did well, especially considering how fewer the screens were back then. Side note: One of my first memories is seeing the "just when you thought it was safe" trailer in the theater.
When I went to Martha's Vineyard in 1999 there was a shop that had the original Jaws 2 trading cards in their original packaging with chewing gum. The shopkeeper was concerned that kids were buying the cards and consuming 21 year old chewing gum.
Another really interesting. I can see what you meant about things getting darker and more worrisome. Sort of echoing my comments from part one. I watch a lot of official making- of videos and content creators like yourself. Still, you always dig out fresh information and create a well-structured picture of things. There is so much info out there on Jaws, but 2 has always been an unknown quantity. All of this fresh for me. Thank you. and have an amazing Christmas.
Brian Uttman's termination on Jaws 2 is one of the more nonplussed cold blooded examples of how the film industry sometimes works. Its a tough way to treat an actor. Roy Scheider was exceedingly thoughtful and kind to this actor. Frankly, he had no need to as the star of the film but his actions also reveal the generosity that actors in Hollywood and in the film business have for others.
But then if the rest of the cast are to be believed, he was a complete dick to everyone else on the set. I really can't understand people some times. Why would an established star be so kind to a young actor, for no reason at all, and then be so awful to so many other young actors? I guess the stress of the film brought out the worst in him, IF, the stories about him are true. Either way, RIP Roy.
@@TheAmateurEditor As I noted, I think he was furious with the rewrites making the young actors more the focus of the film. When you get to that level in the film business , you have keep your kingdom so to speak. Also in those days, what happened on film sets stayed in film sets.
I'm very impressed with both parts of your coverage of the nightmare that was 'JAWS 2'. Szwarc was a capable technical director, but the film is really uninspired and feels a great deal like a studio vision, instead of a director or producer vision. Basically throw some proven elements at the screen and try to ride the wave of a then popular trend in sailing for the youth market. What makes this all so dispiriting is that Szwarc understood exactly why JAWS had worked so well and (in his own words) why the sequel could not repeat that. The production crews pushed themselves hard and all to make an unengaging routine film.
Gottlieb's frustration with being hounded by cast after leaving his hotel room after doing rewrites may be one reason why screenwriters don't usually end up on locations with film shoots. LOL
After a couple of reissues it finished with $102m in the US and $208m worldwide so was very successful for Universal. I think it's okay and a solidly made sequel, especially considering all the politics and chaos of its production. Not a patch on Spielberg's original classic though.
Sorry to disappoint but I have a slate of films to cover and Jaws 3 and 4 were not worthy films for me to spend one month of research per film on like I usually invest in all the films I cover. But we did want to give the sequels a moment since we covered 1 and 2 at least to complete the journey.
@RepresentThis -- That's fine. It was only half a request and half a joke, though I do enjoy those movies. Thanks for these videos. Jaws 2 is my favourite one as well.
Poor Roy. Going from being trapped in the jungle with Hurricane Billy to sitting in the sun in Florida being bored to death playing second fiddle to a bunch of teenagers and a mechanical shark. Just around the corner Jaws cast mate Richard Dreyfuss will be fired by Bob Fosse allowing Roy to have his role of a lifetime. Everything works out.
Huh so we're the same age. I did get to see this in the theater during its release, and really liked it. Scary, but in a really entertaining way. You probably would have too.
Fields going to all that work sabotaging the film to steal the director's chair only to find out that the unions weren't going to allow that is so delicious.
She made the mistake of upsetting Spielberg by declaring that she saved the film in editing (implying Spielberg’s direction was lacking). Her JAWS success went to her head. Now I know why Spielberg never worked with her again.
You didn't mentioned the fact that they shot all of Murray Hamilton's scenes during the first few weeks of filming so he could go home and be with his wife who was dying of cancer at the time.
Heheh, Roy Scheider, who'd have thought it? Thanks for another good one. You must be worth a fortune with all those trading cards. Ever thought about directing a movie of your own? By now you know exactly how not to do it. I'll send you my script 🙂 ps As I suppose this is the last before the 25th, may I wish you and yours a Happy Christmas and thank you for adding a big sparkle to my Friday nights for a long time now. Be well!
Thanks CMDR. As for directing, I'm a nobody to that part of the world. I actually have a novel that I finished in 2005 that I edit every year and had countless folks edit it as well. I even wrote a screenplay for it once, but it just sits in my computer waiting for the moment where I might have time to work on it again. Maybe someday I will get it out there, we will see.
Who knew Verna Fields was such a power hungry and manipulative person. I'm glad she was put in her place by Robert Aldridge. Why did she even care who played Sean Brody? Talk about a power trip. P. S Epic dig at Mark Hamill for being a man baby. 😅😅😅 And I wouldn't say Grease taught people to change themselves for someone they love. It appeared that way until they realized it was unnecessary at the end.
Scheider clearly didn't want to do Jaws 2. I think after the rewrites, he just checked out of the movie with his suntaning tactics and his own script rewrites. He just didnt seem to care. I think he felt insulted- TV director, shrinking lead role, doing a sequel he didht want to do but was contractually obligated to make.
You can’t go this detailed about revenge. If you did you would have to censor it and leave out certain details for good tastes an to not get flagged by youtube as mature content. Nice second part 2 dude:
I'm among those who think there never should've been a sequel. Another shark finds it's way to Amity Island, and the same guy (who's supposed to be afraid of drowning) has to go out and dispatch it? Just not credible. The Indianapolis prequel (directed by Spielberg) would've been the better way to go.
Can't get on board with the take that Williams' sequel *score* is better than the first. Some of the (often Herrmann-inspired) music is very good to my ears -- but the work lacks the thematic focus and synergy of the first, as so many post-STAR WARS scores of Williams' did. (Instead of being a one-time gimmick, Williams "sold out" after that Oscar-winner, disregarding philosophic advances in scoring philosophy in favor of adopting a regressive, outdated Golden Age approach, architecturally.) The first score may have been highly derivative of Stravinsky, et al., but it was a true *film* score (i.e., not just scene enhancement), near-perfect in overall design and execution. Even The Master, Jerry Goldsmith, said that his nominated score that year deserved to lose to Williams'.
Absolutely BRILLIANT job you’re doing here, man. You are really digging deep! Please do Jaws 3D. That is easily the hardest one to find info and production pics on the various mechanical sharks. In Represent This, we trust! You are the Jaws authority now, brother!
18:42 ❤️
Great job putting this together. Funny how some movies we grew up with and love were actually nightmares while filming.
Hell yeah! Great job and what a perfect unexpected morning surprise!
I recall an interview in my mother's Cosmopolitan magazine (1977 or '78) with child model-turned-actress Brooke Shields and her manager-mother Teri, who said, "Brooke personally turned down a role in "Jaws 2". She said she didn't want to get eaten by a plastic shark." 😅
this is so in depth i cant believe it.
These retrospectives are really well done, so I'd like to see Jaws 3 and Jaws The Revenge get their own documentaries too.
22:39 The Jaws 2 poster set at dusk is the coolest 😎
I was too young to see the original at the cinema but my dad who was 6ft 6" got me in to see this one. I was obviously under age but when challenged by a snooty cashier my dad just glared at him saying "he's old enough!" and in we went. I always had a soft spot for this one although the original is a masterpiece.
"Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water again" Jaws 2 movie tag line was perhaps one of the best ever created for a film.
Or ALIEN . . . or SCARY MOVIE 4 ("The Fourth and Final Movie in the Trilogy")
Agreed. Though the tagline read, "Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water."
Excellent part 2!
Damien Omen 2 is still one of my favourite horror/thriller movies. Perfectly made, and acted.
. . . and scored (by the peerless Jerry Goldsmith)!
@@doogboh The score is outstanding, 1 of the best
@Ionisus : Crazy that Jerry's Oscar winner -- super as it is -- may be the least impressive of his OMEN scores, LOL
If those box office numbers aren't adjusted for inflation then those are huge numbers. Even the movies that look like bombs actually did well, especially considering how fewer the screens were back then. Side note: One of my first memories is seeing the "just when you thought it was safe" trailer in the theater.
When I went to Martha's Vineyard in 1999 there was a shop that had the original Jaws 2 trading cards in their original packaging with chewing gum. The shopkeeper was concerned that kids were buying the cards and consuming 21 year old chewing gum.
Man I had the Charlie’s Angels cards that came in those packs with the flat card of bubble gum. It wasn’t great then. I couldn’t imagine now! lol
This movie came out a month after I was born . But Jaws 2 is still my favorite jaws movie follow by jaws 1.
great video
Another really interesting. I can see what you meant about things getting darker and more worrisome. Sort of echoing my comments from part one. I watch a lot of official making- of videos and content creators like yourself. Still, you always dig out fresh information and create a well-structured picture of things. There is so much info out there on Jaws, but 2 has always been an unknown quantity. All of this fresh for me. Thank you. and have an amazing Christmas.
Thanks again for being in the discussion and we will see you next week.
Dang it, these weekly videos start feeling too short. I just want more. And now I have to find that soundtrack
There is more to come weekly, I promise. :)
The Cat from Outer Space definitely needs a deep dive.🌠🚀😸
This
Brian Uttman's termination on Jaws 2 is one of the more nonplussed cold blooded examples of how the film industry sometimes works. Its a tough way to treat an actor.
Roy Scheider was exceedingly thoughtful and kind to this actor. Frankly, he had no need to as the star of the film but his actions also reveal the generosity that actors in Hollywood and in the film business have for others.
But then if the rest of the cast are to be believed, he was a complete dick to everyone else on the set. I really can't understand people some times. Why would an established star be so kind to a young actor, for no reason at all, and then be so awful to so many other young actors? I guess the stress of the film brought out the worst in him, IF, the stories about him are true. Either way, RIP Roy.
@@TheAmateurEditor As I noted, I think he was furious with the rewrites making the young actors more the focus of the film.
When you get to that level in the film business , you have keep your kingdom so to speak.
Also in those days, what happened on film sets stayed in film sets.
Agree about the soundtrack.
I'm very impressed with both parts of your coverage of the nightmare that was 'JAWS 2'. Szwarc was a capable technical director, but the film is really uninspired and feels a great deal like a studio vision, instead of a director or producer vision. Basically throw some proven elements at the screen and try to ride the wave of a then popular trend in sailing for the youth market. What makes this all so dispiriting is that Szwarc understood exactly why JAWS had worked so well and (in his own words) why the sequel could not repeat that. The production crews pushed themselves hard and all to make an unengaging routine film.
Gottlieb's frustration with being hounded by cast after leaving his hotel room after doing rewrites may be one reason why screenwriters don't usually end up on locations with film shoots. LOL
After a couple of reissues it finished with $102m in the US and $208m worldwide so was very successful for Universal. I think it's okay and a solidly made sequel, especially considering all the politics and chaos of its production. Not a patch on Spielberg's original classic though.
SINGLE VIDEO??? JAWS3D\3 and The Revenge deserve their own serieses!!
Sorry to disappoint but I have a slate of films to cover and Jaws 3 and 4 were not worthy films for me to spend one month of research per film on like I usually invest in all the films I cover. But we did want to give the sequels a moment since we covered 1 and 2 at least to complete the journey.
@RepresentThis -- That's fine. It was only half a request and half a joke, though I do enjoy those movies. Thanks for these videos. Jaws 2 is my favourite one as well.
@@Hum0ng0us, it doesn't take two series to say - they suck!
So many adult child actors!!!
Poor Roy. Going from being trapped in the jungle with Hurricane Billy to sitting in the sun in Florida being bored to death playing second fiddle to a bunch of teenagers and a mechanical shark. Just around the corner Jaws cast mate Richard Dreyfuss will be fired by Bob Fosse allowing Roy to have his role of a lifetime. Everything works out.
Town and Country? I saw jaws2 there. Phoenix Az. Man I'm old 😊
Huh so we're the same age. I did get to see this in the theater during its release, and really liked it. Scary, but in a really entertaining way. You probably would have too.
What kind of recipes do you include in a Jaws II cookbook? BBQ Baby back teenagers? Filet de fisherman a la Bourdelaise?
Jaws 2 was released here in Britain on Boxing Day 1978 and Jaws was released here in Britain Boxing Day 1975
Fields going to all that work sabotaging the film to steal the director's chair only to find out that the unions weren't going to allow that is so delicious.
She made the mistake of upsetting Spielberg by declaring that she saved the film in editing (implying Spielberg’s direction was lacking).
Her JAWS success went to her head.
Now I know why Spielberg never worked with her again.
You didn't mentioned the fact that they shot all of Murray Hamilton's scenes during the first few weeks of filming so he could go home and be with his wife who was dying of cancer at the time.
That's in part 3 when we cover his scenes in the movie.
Gotcha.
Heheh, Roy Scheider, who'd have thought it? Thanks for another good one. You must be worth a fortune with all those trading cards. Ever thought about directing a movie of your own? By now you know exactly how not to do it. I'll send you my script 🙂
ps As I suppose this is the last before the 25th, may I wish you and yours a Happy Christmas and thank you for adding a big sparkle to my Friday nights for a long time now. Be well!
Thanks CMDR. As for directing, I'm a nobody to that part of the world. I actually have a novel that I finished in 2005 that I edit every year and had countless folks edit it as well. I even wrote a screenplay for it once, but it just sits in my computer waiting for the moment where I might have time to work on it again. Maybe someday I will get it out there, we will see.
47 years later and Ricky Schroder is still bitter about being fired
26:55 - Ironic that Grease was the one movie that didn't "slip" past you that year 😶
Well, that kid went on a starring Silverspoon so I guess it all worked out
In the meantime, I thought actresses were supposed to be generally pretty
Who knew Verna Fields was such a power hungry and manipulative person. I'm glad she was put in her place by Robert Aldridge. Why did she even care who played Sean Brody? Talk about a power trip.
P. S
Epic dig at Mark Hamill for being a man baby. 😅😅😅
And I wouldn't say Grease taught people to change themselves for someone they love. It appeared that way until they realized it was unnecessary at the end.
Sadly, her JAWS success went straight to her head.
Ned Tannen? Any relation to Biff Tannen?
Sorta. Biff is named after Ned.
Scheider clearly didn't want to do Jaws 2.
I think after the rewrites, he just checked out of the movie with his suntaning tactics and his own script rewrites. He just didnt seem to care.
I think he felt insulted- TV director, shrinking lead role, doing a sequel he didht want to do but was contractually obligated to make.
Beware of studio executives
You can’t go this detailed about revenge. If you did you would have to censor it and leave out certain details for good tastes an to not get flagged by youtube as mature content. Nice second part 2 dude:
I'm among those who think there never should've been a sequel. Another shark finds it's way to Amity Island, and the same guy (who's supposed to be afraid of drowning) has to go out and dispatch it? Just not credible. The Indianapolis prequel (directed by Spielberg) would've been the better way to go.
Jackie was a better screamer.
Can't get on board with the take that Williams' sequel *score* is better than the first. Some of the (often Herrmann-inspired) music is very good to my ears -- but the work lacks the thematic focus and synergy of the first, as so many post-STAR WARS scores of Williams' did. (Instead of being a one-time gimmick, Williams "sold out" after that Oscar-winner, disregarding philosophic advances in scoring philosophy in favor of adopting a regressive, outdated Golden Age approach, architecturally.) The first score may have been highly derivative of Stravinsky, et al., but it was a true *film* score (i.e., not just scene enhancement), near-perfect in overall design and execution. Even The Master, Jerry Goldsmith, said that his nominated score that year deserved to lose to Williams'.
BTW. The pronunciation of Jeannot is Jean OH!! Not Jean ehh