According to my pharmacist mother, there's actually *five* flu variants spreading around. Outside of the typical flu and COVID, there's 3 other flu variants that have been spreading and are not countered by flu shots. Sounds like Alex and Hayley got one of these flu variants. It's hit Korea pretty hard too - we're swarmed by coughing, sneezing, miserable patients and we have to wear masks all the time. Her tips to avoid these flus this season: always wear masks even in open settings as these flu variants are very contagious, bring hand sanitizer, wash your hands as often as possible, and essentially act paranoid around social gatherings.
Yeah! First hand experience here ✋🏻 my experience was I just had COVID about a week ago and recovered....but now, a lingering cough persists. It feels dry and is annoying, but otherwise, I'm able to function well 🙏🏻 but it is a little persistent. Rest seems to temporarily stop it and water is a must - the usual. But even this needs be as consistent (thinking positive thoughts never hurt too) 💡 I hope that's helped anyone feeling down in the dumps about it if they have one of the variants or flu in general! ❤
First hand experience my cousin died yesterday from one of these flu variants she was only in her 40s I thought people dying from the flu was so 1900s but I was shown otherwise
Btw guys... Every year scientist have to predict from data, what will be going around 1 year out. So basically they are guessing, albeit an educated guess, it is still a guess for what will arrive a year into the future. But, every year the flu shot is a prediction based on past flu patterns, of what they believe will be the most deadly or dominant 2 strains of the upcoming flu season. And the flu shot is the protection for those 2 flu strains. But yeah. There is always more than just 2 flu strains out and about doing damage each winter season.
Hayley 😭 I'm so glad you're better; that sounds so very awful that I can't even put it into words. I'm like _never_ sick but when I am, it tends to be either a "ope something is about to happ- eh never mind" or it's Very Bad. But I've never had the flu or any of the seasonal things people tend to go through. I think whatever y'all had would put me under for a month. Yikes.
FYI in case you don't know, for stuff like the game awards, there's generally places (reddit definitely at least) that just collects the info/trailers together, so you don't have to deal with even scrubbing through the thing, you can just check out the important bits.
Everyone please listen to Hayley and stay safe! Something similar also went around November of 2022 and it was honestly the worst I have ever felt/had to take off 2 weeks of work because I physically couldn't speak for 1 week and then couldn't stop coughing/mucus everywhere/exhaustion for 2 more weeks. Last year at urgent care they kinda shrugged their shoulders and said RSV after I tested negative for Covid, the flu, and strep throat, but whatever it is it hits hard. I would not wish it upon my worst enemy. Stay Safe!
Yeah, me and my wife definitely had what you guys had. I didn't get it nearly as bad, just congestion and a bad cough but my wife pretty much went through what Hayley went through. She lost her voice because she was coughing so bad. We're on the up and up however. We both still cough really bad on a blue moon but that's about it. Here's hoping you guys are also doing better. ♥️
Glad you’re doing better Hayley❤! I was just looking around on the web to see if there’s any news on this and I haven’t found anything so I hope the media starts covering this more so we can be safe.
I had a cold that was so bad that I could barely talk in the mornings. I was straight up miserable. Of course, it wasn't nearly as bad as Alex and Hayley, which I am thankful for. Glad they're starting to feel better. I mean, this cold took away most of my appetite and I love to eat. Now, I don't sneeze and my nose doesn't run, so there's that. I just have a nagging cough that I am taking cough drops for. Watch out, some stuff really is going around
Catching up on November and December vlogs and I’m glad Alex and Hayley are feeling better! I watched the Game Awards for Gonzo’s appearance (yes, Gonzo the Muppet :D), and for Spider-Man 2 to potentially win anything. Unfortunately the game didn’t win anything, but it was still neat to see Gonzo at The Game Awards.
Glad you guys are feeling better. I work at a daycare and like a month ago and i was the only staff member that didn't get sick (knock on all the wood) and a bunch of the kids were sick too. It didn't sound as bad as poor Hayley but damn i was lucky
Glad to see Hayley finally getting better! Something kinda similar is still going around on the east coast of Canada. I just had a horrific cough that caused chest pains and my body felt so exhausted I couldn’t get off the couch at times. Im thankfully 90% better now, but everyone please put your health first and stay safe!
Pretty sure whatever is going around hit Minnesota pretty hard, I had something similar and so did my roommate…. Know this is a few weeks late but hope all is well!
The year before the end of the world (2019) I had a really bad case of what was probably either COVID (obviously no testing) or just an incredibly bad flu bug. From just after Christmas until like a week into the new year, I basically couldn’t do much besides shovel snow (because I had to) and do a few hours of work. The only thing that saved me is working in a family business and winter being my “down” time (agriculture) anyways so I just worked a little closer to “busy” hours when I recovered to get my income back to where it would have been.
Going by what's been said it sounds like I had what Haley and Alex were experiencing. I had a cough that lasted for 3-4 weeks, hot/cold chills, throwing up a lot. I felt exhausted all the time, and my body ached constantly. I've had COVID before, but this was worse than that. I've just barely gotten over it now. At first I thought it was the flu, but it sounds like that wasn't the case.
we’ve all had this illness here as well (we’re in England so it’s not just in the US)! i was off work for 2 weeks because i just couldnt do anything, went back for one week and then finished for Christmas break luckily. my mum and my son had it as well, we were all on antibiotics but the doctors didnt have any idea what it was because all tests were negative. today is 5 weeks since i first got it and i still have a cough now, it is absolutely horrible! so glad y’all are feeling better!
My dad just recently came down with something. Two nights ago he was the weakest I've ever seen him. It got to the point where we were gonna bring him to the ER, but couldn't get him to go down the steps on the porch so we had to call an ambulance. The hospital said he had the flu, but at this point after hearing this it could either be that or whatever is going around. He seems to be on the upswing, but it's still worrying.
I'm glad that things are starting to get better and hope they continue to! I haven't gotten what Alex and Haley got but I did end end up getting sick for like a week before Christmas I think all I had was frequent headaches and stomachaches.
My Mom got sick around the same time this vlog happened (thankfully not nearly as badly as Alex and Hayley) so seems like this has been a really bad December for illness. Thankfully my dad and I were unaffected but we hardly ever get sick.
You know what, I probably had the exact same thing as Hayley and Alex, to a lesser extent. It started right after I got back home from a shift working my work's holiday light display. I was stationed by the fire the whole night and when I got home, I was SUPER congested. I had a head cold at the beginning of November that lasted all of about a week and was nothing terrible (I got the flu and covid shot that same week, that covid shot hit HARD, though). But, the weekend after Thanksgiving, I get hit hard. Sudden congestion, the next day super lethargic and brain fogged (probably also a fever, but I don't own a thermometer, I just get hypersensitive to touch, so I just tossed back some fever reducers). Better going forward but the congestion clung on and I definitely had some yellow and slight green mucous that I was continuously coughing up. I basically lived on mucinex and sudafed for close to 3 weeks straight. The terrible wet ouchy cough. I all thought that it was because I had been around a campfire and inhaled too much of the smoke and it made my asthma incredibly angry. I also never took a day off of work during this time. I work at a nature center and am a seasonal employee. I do accrue sick time very slowly but I don't get PTO. And, heck, the birds have to eat and they're not going to care if you're sick or not. No one I was around at work with ever caught what I had. I even was in a car with some people for about 8 hours and none of them got sick.
In 2019 there was something going around. I only knew of one other person locally who had it but I heard from people in a couple other areas of the US who got it. I also have a friend in Australia whose daughter had it and a friend in the UK whose husband had it. We all had the same symptoms… constant coughing up of gunk, all day and all night. Extreme fatigue and at some point there was a fever for a few days. This went on for a solid month, for all of us. THEN after getting well and back to normal for about 6-7 weeks, the dang stuff came back, for all of us! Same exact symptoms but it only lasted 2 weeks the second time. At the time I googled it and could never find out anything about it. The only way I knew it was around was from word of mouth. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that it doesn’t come back for Alex and Hayley 🤞🏼
I think maybe my family got this recently but hard to tell cause we haven't really been unable to do regular activities like Hayley and Alex were. Just a very annoying cough.
This is weird. I was sickly when I was a kid, but my immune system is much stronger. I had COVID, but in a week, I was over it. (First day hit me like a TRUCKLOAD of bricks!) I had the usual immunizations for it, and was grateful for them. And since then, I haven't been really sick at all. But it concerns me, this illness. I mean, people have their own levels. Some get sick easily, some don't. But this is really strange.
Sorry to hear Alex and Hayley were so ill. I've not heard about these particular symptoms in the UK although general winter illnesses have been spreading around. I hadn't even realised till Hayley mentioned it that getting hit with this in the US means you could lose income, that's appalling there isn't paid sick leave. I remember in Year 5 (age 9-10) in school we had to study Victorian child labour in the 1830s and one of the things that most shocked us as kids was the idea that back then, if people were ill they just didn't get paid. Tragic that that's still the case in the US (and the gig economy is trying to sneak it back in here as well).
Wait, so all jobs get paid sick leave in the UK? We have SOME jobs that get that in the US, but it's generally salaried jobs, not minimum wage or things like that.
I had it as well 😩 halfway through the first week I slept 18 hours in one day. I never felt the "you will throw up" button, but the COUGHING and just the pure exhaustion was terrible. I was out of work for 4 days, and yes, the income loss was significant. 😞 Hope everyone feels better soon ❤
It doesn't seem like RSV like we'd discussed in Discord... who the heck knows right now. I'm glad you guys are better! Your right cheek was still pretty flushed and it hurts me a lil bit 😢
That’s unfortunately a Neurogenic Thoracic Outlet Syndrome thing. The right side of my body occasionally gets inflamed when I’ve put a lot of strain on it recently. It causes my face and ear to flush on the right side only.
I caught one of the bugs that went through Ohio. Knocked me out for a couple days, still have a lingering cough. Also back to masking when I’m going to be around people.
the thing that got me the most excited from the game awards was a new/remake? of Jet Set Radio and Crazy Taxi. Then there was the new Monster Hunter but it's only gonna be on PS5 and XBX which is fair I guess since the last game was Switch and PC exclusive.
people look at me like I'm crazy, but I still wear my mask out in public. I used to consistently get sick once a year and I haven't been sick now in almost 4 years, its been seriously nice I may never go back to maskless ever again, and stories like this just make me glad I still wear it.
It sounds a bit like pertussis (whooping cough), particularly vomiting after a coughing spell. Although most children in the US are immunized as babies, that immunity tends to wane after a year or two, leaving people vulnerable to the illness.
I got sick recently and one day I sneezed into a tissue really hard that a lot of phlegm came out. Sorry if that sounded disgusting to anyone here. I’m glad Alex and Hayley are getting better
I should have been masking more, I just caught COVID for the first time and I believe I could have avoided it if I'd been masking in crowded areas...hubris. It only feels like a sinus infection, but I am still missing work :/
Interesting, I live in New Jersey and I got the whacky mystery flu around the time this vlog came out and I was gone for like three weeks and also got a I think unrelated double ear infection but I'm the only one in my family who got it
I personally haven't experienced the sickness neither has anyone I know. I've also not seen/heard anyone talking about it so maybe my part of Kansas is safe? Take it with a grain of salt though.
A. Out of curiosity, I googled "mystery illness affecting the american east coast", and EVERY article was talking about a dog virus. That might be related since Hayley and Alex have a dog and you don't? Don't quote me on that, I'm by no means a medical expert.
The dog flu is separate. They’re pretty sure it’s a bacterial infection they didn’t have a test for before, but are developing now. It can’t jump species, thankfully.
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According to my pharmacist mother, there's actually *five* flu variants spreading around. Outside of the typical flu and COVID, there's 3 other flu variants that have been spreading and are not countered by flu shots. Sounds like Alex and Hayley got one of these flu variants. It's hit Korea pretty hard too - we're swarmed by coughing, sneezing, miserable patients and we have to wear masks all the time. Her tips to avoid these flus this season: always wear masks even in open settings as these flu variants are very contagious, bring hand sanitizer, wash your hands as often as possible, and essentially act paranoid around social gatherings.
Yeah! First hand experience here ✋🏻 my experience was I just had COVID about a week ago and recovered....but now, a lingering cough persists. It feels dry and is annoying, but otherwise, I'm able to function well 🙏🏻 but it is a little persistent. Rest seems to temporarily stop it and water is a must - the usual. But even this needs be as consistent (thinking positive thoughts never hurt too) 💡 I hope that's helped anyone feeling down in the dumps about it if they have one of the variants or flu in general! ❤
First hand experience my cousin died yesterday from one of these flu variants she was only in her 40s I thought people dying from the flu was so 1900s but I was shown otherwise
Btw guys... Every year scientist have to predict from data, what will be going around 1 year out.
So basically they are guessing, albeit an educated guess, it is still a guess for what will arrive a year into the future.
But, every year the flu shot is a prediction based on past flu patterns, of what they believe will be the most deadly or dominant 2 strains of the upcoming flu season. And the flu shot is the protection for those 2 flu strains.
But yeah. There is always more than just 2 flu strains out and about doing damage each winter season.
Hayley 😭 I'm so glad you're better; that sounds so very awful that I can't even put it into words. I'm like _never_ sick but when I am, it tends to be either a "ope something is about to happ- eh never mind" or it's Very Bad. But I've never had the flu or any of the seasonal things people tend to go through. I think whatever y'all had would put me under for a month. Yikes.
FYI in case you don't know, for stuff like the game awards, there's generally places (reddit definitely at least) that just collects the info/trailers together, so you don't have to deal with even scrubbing through the thing, you can just check out the important bits.
the thumb nail looked like Hailey was sitting in your lap lol. Glad yall are feeling better!
i love the play food so much 🥺
I live in Massachusetts and I’ve been going through everything Hayley described. It’s no joke
I am on week 3 of the mysterious sickness and it does suck bad
She lives!
Thanks for the PSA, Hayley. Glad you and Alex are finally starting to feel human again
Everyone please listen to Hayley and stay safe! Something similar also went around November of 2022 and it was honestly the worst I have ever felt/had to take off 2 weeks of work because I physically couldn't speak for 1 week and then couldn't stop coughing/mucus everywhere/exhaustion for 2 more weeks. Last year at urgent care they kinda shrugged their shoulders and said RSV after I tested negative for Covid, the flu, and strep throat, but whatever it is it hits hard. I would not wish it upon my worst enemy. Stay Safe!
Yeah, me and my wife definitely had what you guys had. I didn't get it nearly as bad, just congestion and a bad cough but my wife pretty much went through what Hayley went through. She lost her voice because she was coughing so bad. We're on the up and up however. We both still cough really bad on a blue moon but that's about it. Here's hoping you guys are also doing better. ♥️
Glad you’re doing better Hayley❤! I was just looking around on the web to see if there’s any news on this and I haven’t found anything so I hope the media starts covering this more so we can be safe.
I had a cold that was so bad that I could barely talk in the mornings. I was straight up miserable. Of course, it wasn't nearly as bad as Alex and Hayley, which I am thankful for. Glad they're starting to feel better. I mean, this cold took away most of my appetite and I love to eat. Now, I don't sneeze and my nose doesn't run, so there's that. I just have a nagging cough that I am taking cough drops for. Watch out, some stuff really is going around
Glad you are feeling better Yes it’s awful, I’m on week 2 and the fatigue it’s bad and coughing
Catching up on November and December vlogs and I’m glad Alex and Hayley are feeling better!
I watched the Game Awards for Gonzo’s appearance (yes, Gonzo the Muppet :D), and for Spider-Man 2 to potentially win anything. Unfortunately the game didn’t win anything, but it was still neat to see Gonzo at The Game Awards.
Glad you guys are feeling better.
I work at a daycare and like a month ago and i was the only staff member that didn't get sick (knock on all the wood) and a bunch of the kids were sick too. It didn't sound as bad as poor Hayley but damn i was lucky
Glad to see Hayley finally getting better! Something kinda similar is still going around on the east coast of Canada. I just had a horrific cough that caused chest pains and my body felt so exhausted I couldn’t get off the couch at times. Im thankfully 90% better now, but everyone please put your health first and stay safe!
Pretty sure whatever is going around hit Minnesota pretty hard, I had something similar and so did my roommate…. Know this is a few weeks late but hope all is well!
I’m thankful it hasn’t hit me yet, but with my luck it’ll get me soon, especially if it’s hitting Minney now
The year before the end of the world (2019) I had a really bad case of what was probably either COVID (obviously no testing) or just an incredibly bad flu bug.
From just after Christmas until like a week into the new year, I basically couldn’t do much besides shovel snow (because I had to) and do a few hours of work.
The only thing that saved me is working in a family business and winter being my “down” time (agriculture) anyways so I just worked a little closer to “busy” hours when I recovered to get my income back to where it would have been.
Going by what's been said it sounds like I had what Haley and Alex were experiencing. I had a cough that lasted for 3-4 weeks, hot/cold chills, throwing up a lot. I felt exhausted all the time, and my body ached constantly. I've had COVID before, but this was worse than that. I've just barely gotten over it now. At first I thought it was the flu, but it sounds like that wasn't the case.
we’ve all had this illness here as well (we’re in England so it’s not just in the US)! i was off work for 2 weeks because i just couldnt do anything, went back for one week and then finished for Christmas break luckily. my mum and my son had it as well, we were all on antibiotics but the doctors didnt have any idea what it was because all tests were negative. today is 5 weeks since i first got it and i still have a cough now, it is absolutely horrible! so glad y’all are feeling better!
My dad just recently came down with something. Two nights ago he was the weakest I've ever seen him. It got to the point where we were gonna bring him to the ER, but couldn't get him to go down the steps on the porch so we had to call an ambulance. The hospital said he had the flu, but at this point after hearing this it could either be that or whatever is going around. He seems to be on the upswing, but it's still worrying.
My girlfriend and here family were hit by terrible coughing for several weeks not too long ago
I'm glad that things are starting to get better and hope they continue to! I haven't gotten what Alex and Haley got but I did end end up getting sick for like a week before Christmas I think all I had was frequent headaches and stomachaches.
I’m watching this while at the tail end of a cold and now I’m just thinking about how my cold was nothing compared to what Alex and Hayley had
Yea my husband went to the er and was told the same thing
My Mom got sick around the same time this vlog happened (thankfully not nearly as badly as Alex and Hayley) so seems like this has been a really bad December for illness. Thankfully my dad and I were unaffected but we hardly ever get sick.
You know what, I probably had the exact same thing as Hayley and Alex, to a lesser extent. It started right after I got back home from a shift working my work's holiday light display. I was stationed by the fire the whole night and when I got home, I was SUPER congested. I had a head cold at the beginning of November that lasted all of about a week and was nothing terrible (I got the flu and covid shot that same week, that covid shot hit HARD, though). But, the weekend after Thanksgiving, I get hit hard. Sudden congestion, the next day super lethargic and brain fogged (probably also a fever, but I don't own a thermometer, I just get hypersensitive to touch, so I just tossed back some fever reducers). Better going forward but the congestion clung on and I definitely had some yellow and slight green mucous that I was continuously coughing up. I basically lived on mucinex and sudafed for close to 3 weeks straight. The terrible wet ouchy cough. I all thought that it was because I had been around a campfire and inhaled too much of the smoke and it made my asthma incredibly angry. I also never took a day off of work during this time. I work at a nature center and am a seasonal employee. I do accrue sick time very slowly but I don't get PTO. And, heck, the birds have to eat and they're not going to care if you're sick or not.
No one I was around at work with ever caught what I had. I even was in a car with some people for about 8 hours and none of them got sick.
In 2019 there was something going around. I only knew of one other person locally who had it but I heard from people in a couple other areas of the US who got it. I also have a friend in Australia whose daughter had it and a friend in the UK whose husband had it.
We all had the same symptoms… constant coughing up of gunk, all day and all night. Extreme fatigue and at some point there was a fever for a few days. This went on for a solid month, for all of us. THEN after getting well and back to normal for about 6-7 weeks, the dang stuff came back, for all of us! Same exact symptoms but it only lasted 2 weeks the second time. At the time I googled it and could never find out anything about it. The only way I knew it was around was from word of mouth.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed that it doesn’t come back for Alex and Hayley 🤞🏼
Gotcha Hailey! Masks and caution in effect!
I think maybe my family got this recently but hard to tell cause we haven't really been unable to do regular activities like Hayley and Alex were. Just a very annoying cough.
This is weird. I was sickly when I was a kid, but my immune system is much stronger. I had COVID, but in a week, I was over it. (First day hit me like a TRUCKLOAD of bricks!) I had the usual immunizations for it, and was grateful for them. And since then, I haven't been really sick at all. But it concerns me, this illness. I mean, people have their own levels. Some get sick easily, some don't. But this is really strange.
A couple of my friends, who have been really sick, just got diagnosed with RSV 😷
Sorry to hear Alex and Hayley were so ill. I've not heard about these particular symptoms in the UK although general winter illnesses have been spreading around. I hadn't even realised till Hayley mentioned it that getting hit with this in the US means you could lose income, that's appalling there isn't paid sick leave. I remember in Year 5 (age 9-10) in school we had to study Victorian child labour in the 1830s and one of the things that most shocked us as kids was the idea that back then, if people were ill they just didn't get paid. Tragic that that's still the case in the US (and the gig economy is trying to sneak it back in here as well).
Wait, so all jobs get paid sick leave in the UK? We have SOME jobs that get that in the US, but it's generally salaried jobs, not minimum wage or things like that.
I had it as well 😩 halfway through the first week I slept 18 hours in one day. I never felt the "you will throw up" button, but the COUGHING and just the pure exhaustion was terrible. I was out of work for 4 days, and yes, the income loss was significant. 😞 Hope everyone feels better soon ❤
It doesn't seem like RSV like we'd discussed in Discord... who the heck knows right now. I'm glad you guys are better! Your right cheek was still pretty flushed and it hurts me a lil bit 😢
That’s unfortunately a Neurogenic Thoracic Outlet Syndrome thing. The right side of my body occasionally gets inflamed when I’ve put a lot of strain on it recently. It causes my face and ear to flush on the right side only.
@TheKubliest oh fascinating! The human body is definitely A Thing for some people. Continued good vibes ❤️
I caught one of the bugs that went through Ohio. Knocked me out for a couple days, still have a lingering cough. Also back to masking when I’m going to be around people.
the thing that got me the most excited from the game awards was a new/remake? of Jet Set Radio and Crazy Taxi. Then there was the new Monster Hunter but it's only gonna be on PS5 and XBX which is fair I guess since the last game was Switch and PC exclusive.
people look at me like I'm crazy, but I still wear my mask out in public. I used to consistently get sick once a year and I haven't been sick now in almost 4 years, its been seriously nice I may never go back to maskless ever again, and stories like this just make me glad I still wear it.
I hate to say it, but I'm glad COVID made it socially acceptable to wear masks in public for whatever reason you want. Good Vibes to you!
It sounds a bit like pertussis (whooping cough), particularly vomiting after a coughing spell. Although most children in the US are immunized as babies, that immunity tends to wane after a year or two, leaving people vulnerable to the illness.
I got sick recently and one day I sneezed into a tissue really hard that a lot of phlegm came out. Sorry if that sounded disgusting to anyone here. I’m glad Alex and Hayley are getting better
I had a terrible sickness at the beginning of December. Not sure how similar (if at all) it was to this but guess it just be that time of the year 🤒
I'VE HAD THE NEON YELLOW SINUS INFECTIONS TOO!
I should have been masking more, I just caught COVID for the first time and I believe I could have avoided it if I'd been masking in crowded areas...hubris. It only feels like a sinus infection, but I am still missing work :/
Interesting, I live in New Jersey and I got the whacky mystery flu around the time this vlog came out and I was gone for like three weeks and also got a I think unrelated double ear infection but I'm the only one in my family who got it
Hope you and your loved ones recover well stephen 🙏
i'm curious. is the disease still going around? did it ever get figured out what it was? was it an endemic thing?
I personally haven't experienced the sickness neither has anyone I know. I've also not seen/heard anyone talking about it so maybe my part of Kansas is safe? Take it with a grain of salt though.
what are niblings?
A (kinda cute tbh) gender neutral term for nieces and nephews in the same way sibling would be used
I lost my shit when I saw the DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 4 trailer during TGA that is all.
I will keep an eye out for this mysterious new illness. Had to stop watching when she started discussing the bit about "Sensitive Gag Reflex".
crumb for kitty algorithm comment
A. Out of curiosity, I googled "mystery illness affecting the american east coast", and EVERY article was talking about a dog virus. That might be related since Hayley and Alex have a dog and you don't? Don't quote me on that, I'm by no means a medical expert.
The dog flu is separate. They’re pretty sure it’s a bacterial infection they didn’t have a test for before, but are developing now.
It can’t jump species, thankfully.
@@TheKubliest Oh thanks! Good to know