I would really appreciate it if you guys would vote me to be nominated for a Golden Gnome for Best RS3 TH-camr / Streamer / guide maker❤ jagex.questionpro.eu/a/TakeSurvey?tt=vl0a9Gj/ZAISDmjMryqYrQ%3D%3D
I literally just got done doing this survey as apparently I was part of a target demographic. There was zero mention of splitting OSRS and RS3 memberships as a way to offer lower costs. There was mentions of adding various tiers of membership pricing. Some included ads in the lowest tier to make it “cheaper” they were till around 10.99 a month. Or having mobile only accesss as a method for having cheaper options which again only looked to be around 8.99 monthly as proposed as from what I was shown. Theyention options for having more than one character per membership. Some packages including multiple and some with 1 character and the option to get discounts per month on additional character. Things like API access tied to some tiers and monthly price increases or enhanced character display name options. Or improved account security and stuff along those lines. I’d be happy to talk more about what I saw in the survey if you’d like.
Dude this is Jagex we're talking about - if they do decide to split the membership then it probably won't be a single game for a cheaper price than it is now. It will more likely be a single game for the same price as it is now and a new more expensive bundle for both games.
I did the survey and it really gives the vibes that they want to make the subscriptions like twice as expensive, but include multiple character support. All the while taking the lower tier ones which everyone would be at currently and doubling the price AND including fucking ADS, less afk timer, and limiting to just mobile. Instead of just a cheaper option. If ur gonna put ads in my shit or limit me to just mobile that shit should be like a 4th of the price. It did not give me any hype.
Again this is just my own opionion, but as someone who plays both games.. I already know if the membership split, I would only pay for rs3 with the occasional bonding up for old school or whatever.. I wouldn't be playng for both like I do now
if they’re going to segregate the subscription then they need to decrease the prices for membership and bonds. and it cannot stay the same price or go up.
Im faiirrrrrrrrrrrly certain that the "Conjoined Membership" Is not referring to OSRS and RS3 being one membership for two games. I'm almost certain that this will be about paying one price for multiple accounts. The reason I think this is the case is because in the past number of surveys they've given us, this was a point brought up a number of times. That being said, I am very willing to be wrong here. So let's say the idea is to shine light on the possibility that this is talking about splitting up the two games into their own membership. I think this is an absolutely horrible idea. Genuinly one of the worst ideas I can imagine. This would make it so that anyone playing both, will be paying more. thats just flat out,. they arent going to split them up and make the prices 50% each. It would be more likely to be 75% each. Thjat means to get the value I already have, I would have to pay 50% more, and STILL be unable to play both games at the same time. Maybe if they did this with accounts moving forward, sure. But to take away something we already have, and make us pay more for it if we want it, and still have it so we cant actually use both at the same time. There is absolutely no benefit to the player
I think you're right. This is what I was thinking also. Other games are set up this way. I've played 24 years, I have 15 accounts. The only way I'd ever get a long term membership again would be if ALL my accounts were covered under 1 membership.
RS sub is now $19.99 aud a month, WoW is $19.95. Back when I first signed up for RS it cost 1/3rd that of warcraft, now it costs more. Stack that with Jagex's egregious predatory MTX and I am so burned out on the greediness of this game.
i understand that osrs is more popular, has more support, and all the ppl i meet irl that play rs play osrs… but i have the santa hat from 2003 in rs3. between the decade+ of progression, there’s something about the economy of rs3 and the storytelling that keeps me there. i’d be fine never making the jump, especially if they lowered the price of membership down to what it used to be
Its funny how Jagex has made several surveys to make the game better and the only one it has acted upon almost immediately is increasing its membership prices. I honestly dont see this going anywhere but wasting your time. At the end of the day, game price goes up while game quality goes down.
The main problem is the limited quantity of profiles (accounts). If we didn't already have to pay separate subscriptions for all "accounts" on our Jagex account, this would be fine, but realistically, that means subscription costs are going to be doubled. With all the MTX RS3 has, it should be a completely free-to-play game. When you pay for a membership, the full cost is essentially for OSRS, whether you play it or not. If they want to strip out the meager benefits of dual membership, that needs to mean all profiles/characters on your Jagex account are subscribed.
The original game always gets the shaft. They need to either balance out the wallet raping between the two games, or completely separate them - stop having us pay for OSRS to have more support, and MTX-free experience. Raise OSRS membership prices to $20+ a month or to a level where the game is self sustaining if they aren’t going to have MTX.
@@S.y.t.h.i.k agreed. it’s unfair for us to be the paying customers while all of the updates and dev time goes to the more populous and less profitable half of the community. just let people have what they pay for, if you can’t make a game without subsidies, you shouldn’t be making that game. combine the two games or start rendering unto caesar what is caesar’s
@ didn’t say they were - but the RS3 player base as a whole is bombarded with TH promos. Not right that the RS3 player base is expected to fund a different game. Let OSRS players fund their own game.
@ yeah, but it’d be nice if the money i spent on mtx for game x would go to game x rather than be invested into game y. it’s like if you spent money at your local card shop, but the profit went to the card shop two towns over… i kinda wanted that money to be reinvested into the business where i spent that money, not some random third party.
I've been playing f2p so many years, so I can't relate with "I don't even consider f2p a trial". A good majority of the playerbase is f2p or has a f2p exclusive accounts. I am currently a member now since I got 100% completion of f2p (got gravite, full battle mage, and Gud Raider Platebody set which takes many months to get).
Don't you love it when they try to fix something that isnt broken? It has more of a negative impact than a positive impact, they're expecting people to pay for both in a world where both games have heavy grinds and inflation is happening everywhere They never look at other peoples perspective, its dumb
I play mostly RS3, and go back to OSRS for the leagues, for me it would be benificial to have a cheaper option for example only RS3, mostly because the economy in my country is f***ked up and US dollars are expensive, we have localized prices the membership, and for early it is roughly 50 dollars, but here this is expensive as hell, it is almost 20% of the minimum wage here, so to have separeted membership, and I think it would be localized as well, it would benefit the people in my country mostly
I don't play rs3, but jagex wouldnt want to lower membership pricing for osrs at all, considering it is the only income from osrs. They'll probably just increase the price and start advertising better that you get access to 2 games, so both games get shafted
I received the survey AFTER this video and they claim to keep the current one as the baseline, offer a cheaper less expansive one (which looks bad) and more expensive ones that are better if you play multiple acvounts
If they split rs3 from osrs so you would have to pay 4 memberships if you wanted a main and iron on each version, we would be getting fucked. Even if the price was lowered. If it would be the opposite so we would get more chars (1 main 1 iron on both versions) per membership it would be much better (but since this would lower revenue I highly doubt it).
itll mean all the accounts linked to a jagex account will share 1 membership. Instead of paying for multiple memberships. This will be massive for the game.
I think Jagex needs to remind people that they're getting 2 games. I actually forgot OSRS is included in what I pay. If I was able to log into both at the same time I'd play it. I don't see a point in doing this survey since Jagex is 4? months late on the MTX survey results
Yup that’s what held me back from osrs. My account is maxed with over 5b. There’s no way I’m starting back from scratch. If my skill levels/xp transferred over as well as my gold I would. But with this price increase and talks of having ads I’ll be completely done with this game after 20years
RuneScape is also one of the few MMO''s that runs on a single character idea and isn't "meant to be" played on multiple accounts; obviously it is, but i PERSONALLY never really feel like its compariable + factors like the company that owns is, e.g. jagex is reliant on RuneScape's succes, where Blizzard isn't. Just my two cents, but i can for sure understand that people find it expensive
What do you mean? Max bankspace is only $575 aud worth of bonds! Such a steal! Meanwhile you spend like 10 minutes worth of gp in other games to buy bank space.
RS3 should provide far more for free with how greedy the shop is already. Ideally RS3 would just be fully F2P though I'd worry they would nickel and dime more if they went that route fully.
I subbed to OS for leagues, then had some extra time after it ended gave RS3 a go and enjoyed it. Without that joint membership I'd of just gone and played WoW or something else.
I am going to get hated for this, but make MTX overpowered and membership free. Then it can be like League of Legends, as there will be people willing to spend money on the game, and it be free for people that don't have a lot of money
I just did the survey. Jagex is insane. They are looking for over $20 for RS3 AND osrs for 1 or 2 characters having membership?? Might as well play world of warcraft for cheaper and unlimited membership on all characters.
If the Road is pay less for separate the games they to maintain a package for the member pf both beacuse are player who play ors and rs3 not my case but If You need to pay more for both games gg they will lose more active players
I thought when I read conjoined membership refered to all accounts say linked in the jagex launcher would all share 1 membership bundle like how WOW does with multiple characters, I would love to play my Ironman on old-school/rs3 and my main on rs3/old-school amy time i want together but I simply can't justify the cost for the ironman, it is just not worth the 19 dollars a month or 240 dollars a year for 2 premier memberships re occurring I have a job and they have me for more time then my family, myself and I never get my moneys worth yearly on rs or any game I play, if I have to pay for rs membership for my main for both games separately, we are going to have a big depressing and borderline problem with my mental health, my physical health and my emotional health, rs in general has been my escape from the real world for over 2 decades now, making happy memories and meeting all kinds of wonderful people over the years, I cannot stress how bad this will be if something like separate memberships and being able to play both games on the same account and at the same time will be
Already voted for my choices in the Golden Gnomes lol. I only play rs3, and I will only ever play rs3. If I could pay less a year on premier to just have rs3 membership then I would. I don't want to support osrs.
I would really appreciate it if you guys would vote me to be nominated for a Golden Gnome for Best RS3 TH-camr / Streamer / guide maker❤
jagex.questionpro.eu/a/TakeSurvey?tt=vl0a9Gj/ZAISDmjMryqYrQ%3D%3D
I literally just got done doing this survey as apparently I was part of a target demographic. There was zero mention of splitting OSRS and RS3 memberships as a way to offer lower costs. There was mentions of adding various tiers of membership pricing. Some included ads in the lowest tier to make it “cheaper” they were till around 10.99 a month. Or having mobile only accesss as a method for having cheaper options which again only looked to be around 8.99 monthly as proposed as from what I was shown. Theyention options for having more than one character per membership. Some packages including multiple and some with 1 character and the option to get discounts per month on additional character. Things like API access tied to some tiers and monthly price increases or enhanced character display name options. Or improved account security and stuff along those lines. I’d be happy to talk more about what I saw in the survey if you’d like.
Dude this is Jagex we're talking about - if they do decide to split the membership then it probably won't be a single game for a cheaper price than it is now. It will more likely be a single game for the same price as it is now and a new more expensive bundle for both games.
I did the survey and it really gives the vibes that they want to make the subscriptions like twice as expensive, but include multiple character support. All the while taking the lower tier ones which everyone would be at currently and doubling the price AND including fucking ADS, less afk timer, and limiting to just mobile. Instead of just a cheaper option. If ur gonna put ads in my shit or limit me to just mobile that shit should be like a 4th of the price. It did not give me any hype.
It's cute that you think if they unlink the membership it will be cheaper to get members on just one of the games.
naah they wont make it cheaper... they would lose money
Again this is just my own opionion, but as someone who plays both games.. I already know if the membership split, I would only pay for rs3 with the occasional bonding up for old school or whatever.. I wouldn't be playng for both like I do now
I think many people will be in your camp; where they will just pick the one
Same but I'd go to osrs
if they’re going to segregate the subscription then they need to decrease the prices for membership and bonds. and it cannot stay the same price or go up.
Im faiirrrrrrrrrrrly certain that the "Conjoined Membership" Is not referring to OSRS and RS3 being one membership for two games. I'm almost certain that this will be about paying one price for multiple accounts. The reason I think this is the case is because in the past number of surveys they've given us, this was a point brought up a number of times.
That being said, I am very willing to be wrong here. So let's say the idea is to shine light on the possibility that this is talking about splitting up the two games into their own membership. I think this is an absolutely horrible idea. Genuinly one of the worst ideas I can imagine. This would make it so that anyone playing both, will be paying more. thats just flat out,. they arent going to split them up and make the prices 50% each. It would be more likely to be 75% each. Thjat means to get the value I already have, I would have to pay 50% more, and STILL be unable to play both games at the same time. Maybe if they did this with accounts moving forward, sure. But to take away something we already have, and make us pay more for it if we want it, and still have it so we cant actually use both at the same time. There is absolutely no benefit to the player
I think you're right. This is what I was thinking also. Other games are set up this way. I've played 24 years, I have 15 accounts. The only way I'd ever get a long term membership again would be if ALL my accounts were covered under 1 membership.
RS sub is now $19.99 aud a month, WoW is $19.95. Back when I first signed up for RS it cost 1/3rd that of warcraft, now it costs more. Stack that with Jagex's egregious predatory MTX and I am so burned out on the greediness of this game.
i understand that osrs is more popular, has more support, and all the ppl i meet irl that play rs play osrs… but i have the santa hat from 2003 in rs3. between the decade+ of progression, there’s something about the economy of rs3 and the storytelling that keeps me there. i’d be fine never making the jump, especially if they lowered the price of membership down to what it used to be
dw, as someone who plays both games, osrs has the same if not worse support
Its funny how Jagex has made several surveys to make the game better and the only one it has acted upon almost immediately is increasing its membership prices. I honestly dont see this going anywhere but wasting your time. At the end of the day, game price goes up while game quality goes down.
The main problem is the limited quantity of profiles (accounts). If we didn't already have to pay separate subscriptions for all "accounts" on our Jagex account, this would be fine, but realistically, that means subscription costs are going to be doubled. With all the MTX RS3 has, it should be a completely free-to-play game. When you pay for a membership, the full cost is essentially for OSRS, whether you play it or not. If they want to strip out the meager benefits of dual membership, that needs to mean all profiles/characters on your Jagex account are subscribed.
The original game always gets the shaft. They need to either balance out the wallet raping between the two games, or completely separate them - stop having us pay for OSRS to have more support, and MTX-free experience. Raise OSRS membership prices to $20+ a month or to a level where the game is self sustaining if they aren’t going to have MTX.
@@S.y.t.h.i.k agreed. it’s unfair for us to be the paying customers while all of the updates and dev time goes to the more populous and less profitable half of the community. just let people have what they pay for, if you can’t make a game without subsidies, you shouldn’t be making that game. combine the two games or start rendering unto caesar what is caesar’s
agree... they should make osrs memb cost more so they wouldnt have to upkeep that with rs3 money income
No one is forcing you to buy mtx
@ didn’t say they were - but the RS3 player base as a whole is bombarded with TH promos. Not right that the RS3 player base is expected to fund a different game. Let OSRS players fund their own game.
@ yeah, but it’d be nice if the money i spent on mtx for game x would go to game x rather than be invested into game y. it’s like if you spent money at your local card shop, but the profit went to the card shop two towns over… i kinda wanted that money to be reinvested into the business where i spent that money, not some random third party.
I've been playing f2p so many years, so I can't relate with "I don't even consider f2p a trial". A good majority of the playerbase is f2p or has a f2p exclusive accounts. I am currently a member now since I got 100% completion of f2p (got gravite, full battle mage, and Gud Raider Platebody set which takes many months to get).
Don't you love it when they try to fix something that isnt broken?
It has more of a negative impact than a positive impact, they're expecting people to pay for both in a world where both games have heavy grinds and inflation is happening everywhere
They never look at other peoples perspective, its dumb
"Conjoint" is a research method! It helps you prioritize different attributes by ranking them against each other.
I play mostly RS3, and go back to OSRS for the leagues, for me it would be benificial to have a cheaper option for example only RS3, mostly because the economy in my country is f***ked up and US dollars are expensive, we have localized prices the membership, and for early it is roughly 50 dollars, but here this is expensive as hell, it is almost 20% of the minimum wage here, so to have separeted membership, and I think it would be localized as well, it would benefit the people in my country mostly
I don't play rs3, but jagex wouldnt want to lower membership pricing for osrs at all, considering it is the only income from osrs. They'll probably just increase the price and start advertising better that you get access to 2 games, so both games get shafted
That's funny you think they will lower the price?
They will raise the price for combined membership in the future.
I received the survey AFTER this video and they claim to keep the current one as the baseline, offer a cheaper less expansive one (which looks bad) and more expensive ones that are better if you play multiple acvounts
If they split rs3 from osrs so you would have to pay 4 memberships if you wanted a main and iron on each version, we would be getting fucked. Even if the price was lowered. If it would be the opposite so we would get more chars (1 main 1 iron on both versions) per membership it would be much better (but since this would lower revenue I highly doubt it).
The membership prices are why i swayed away from Runescape, 5 years back. I did participate in this survey.
itll mean all the accounts linked to a jagex account will share 1 membership. Instead of paying for multiple memberships. This will be massive for the game.
Except it’s more expensive for the additional accounts, for some reason. You pay extra per additional character on your account
I think Jagex needs to remind people that they're getting 2 games. I actually forgot OSRS is included in what I pay. If I was able to log into both at the same time I'd play it.
I don't see a point in doing this survey since Jagex is 4? months late on the MTX survey results
Nobody wants to train all those skills again. Don’t matter if it was literally free This is what really holding back rs3 players. My opinion lol
Yup that’s what held me back from osrs. My account is maxed with over 5b. There’s no way I’m starting back from scratch. If my skill levels/xp transferred over as well as my gold I would. But with this price increase and talks of having ads I’ll be completely done with this game after 20years
Runescape is a ridiculously expensive MMO. As soon as you have a separate character, it is the most expensive MMO.
RuneScape is also one of the few MMO''s that runs on a single character idea and isn't "meant to be" played on multiple accounts; obviously it is, but i PERSONALLY never really feel like its compariable + factors like the company that owns is, e.g. jagex is reliant on RuneScape's succes, where Blizzard isn't. Just my two cents, but i can for sure understand that people find it expensive
What do you mean? Max bankspace is only $575 aud worth of bonds! Such a steal! Meanwhile you spend like 10 minutes worth of gp in other games to buy bank space.
that would be bad for jagex... since more osrs players they get in rs3... more money they make
the feeling im getting from these comments and the video "a fool and his money are soon parted"
Give 2 tier options, eg 1 game version membership $9.99 a month or both versions for $12.49
Bring back $5 / month with no mtx or keys
RS3 should provide far more for free with how greedy the shop is already. Ideally RS3 would just be fully F2P though I'd worry they would nickel and dime more if they went that route fully.
I subbed to OS for leagues, then had some extra time after it ended gave RS3 a go and enjoyed it. Without that joint membership I'd of just gone and played WoW or something else.
I am going to get hated for this, but make MTX overpowered and membership free. Then it can be like League of Legends, as there will be people willing to spend money on the game, and it be free for people that don't have a lot of money
Throw in a fish flingers guide and I’ll think about that nomination
I just did the survey. Jagex is insane. They are looking for over $20 for RS3 AND osrs for 1 or 2 characters having membership?? Might as well play world of warcraft for cheaper and unlimited membership on all characters.
I just got send mine, so let’s see what this is about lol
If the Road is pay less for separate the games they to maintain a package for the member pf both beacuse are player who play ors and rs3 not my case but If You need to pay more for both games gg they will lose more active players
I only tried rs3 because I could fund my membership using my oldschool account
I thought when I read conjoined membership refered to all accounts say linked in the jagex launcher would all share 1 membership bundle like how WOW does with multiple characters, I would love to play my Ironman on old-school/rs3 and my main on rs3/old-school amy time i want together but I simply can't justify the cost for the ironman, it is just not worth the 19 dollars a month or 240 dollars a year for 2 premier memberships re occurring
I have a job and they have me for more time then my family, myself and I never get my moneys worth yearly on rs or any game I play, if I have to pay for rs membership for my main for both games separately, we are going to have a big depressing and borderline problem with my mental health, my physical health and my emotional health, rs in general has been my escape from the real world for over 2 decades now, making happy memories and meeting all kinds of wonderful people over the years, I cannot stress how bad this will be if something like separate memberships and being able to play both games on the same account and at the same time will be
Already voted for my choices in the Golden Gnomes lol.
I only play rs3, and I will only ever play rs3. If I could pay less a year on premier to just have rs3 membership then I would. I don't want to support osrs.
That’s fair and I hope you voted for me on at least one (;
This mean using bond on rs3 I can play p2p in ors ?
theres like 4 rs3 creators lol