There's a lot of different membranes, and we were aware that we didn't want to go into detail regarding each and every one of them. Part of the reason we referenced Proflex was because we had a jacket with it featured within the video itself, and because it's quite an interesting material.
It looks great, and from a sustainability perspective is at the absolute cutting edge; however, we're yet to receive one so I can't comment with any more authority than to say 'it looks promising'. That said, I'll chase up where ours has got to, as it's certainly a piece that we're all intrigued about.
@@ukclimbingofficial one big issue - reviews are peppered with people saying it leaked immediately. I have a suspicion that Pertex Shield is somewhat fundamentally flawed, as there does appear to be consistent negative reviews on products that use the material.
@@ukclimbingofficial can’t find a red XL anywhere 😩 how would you compare the 2 red ones against each other ? Going to use it for walking the dog whatever the weather & use it for playing golf instead of buying an inferior golf model
The answer isn't as simple as you might hope, as there are different types of Pertex Shield, namely 2 layer, 2.5 layer and 3 layer. If you're out in winter it's the latter that you'll want, as that will provide superior protection. As such, it's worth checking on exactly which your jacket (or the jacket you're looking at buying) features, as there's quite a big difference between the three in terms of performance.
Great for waterproofing, but a lot less great in terms of its feel. That rustling, particularly on Gore Pro, makes it sound (and feel) a little like chain mail at times!!
@@taz2392 That doesn't correlate with our own experience - or the experience of any mountain professions that we work with - but if it works for you then that's great.
I have also experienced this, gave my mate a £20 regatta waterproof after buying an expensive Brad jacket. By the end of our hike, one of us was wet and the other wasn’t. I later asked for the jacket back.
They all pack in sooner or later and the commercial reproofing does nt work . One thing which does work 100% for years is 100% silicone thinned down and mixed thoroughly to a thin treacle fluid, paint on , hang out to dry and the rain beads off like off a ducks back , and it lasts.TH-cam DIY waterproofing..Ok the breathability is not far off gone but that does nt work very well anyway .Try and get 100% pure silicone because that sticks better than the adulterated and it has to be clear or transparant .Just TH-cam it and stop wasting big money on crap jackets and leggings
That'd work in terms of waterproofing, but it'd also make it the world's sweatiest jacket. What's the point in having something that's 100% waterproof if it causes you to sweat so much that you're as wet as you would be if you weren't wearing it?!
@@ukclimbingofficial Firstly, Goretex, Pertex does nt work for most and it deteriates quickly after a few heavy rain days anyway .Rain has pollutants and it would soon block up the miniscule holes. Trying to let air out and keep water out does not work very well at all.Secondly, ok you may feel a bit sweaty but you get nowhere near as wet as the wintery freezing rain drenching you through to your skin.
@@stuartchester6899 If Gore Tex etc didn't work, I don't think it'd sell, and if what you're describing actually worked as well as you say it did - we'd all be doing it. I think I'll stick to Nikwax Tech Wash/TX Direct though...
Great advice between the materials and their use cases. Thanks for the video
Thanks!
Great vid, didn't hear anything about Pertex though? Perhaps confused with Rab's Proflex
There's a lot of different membranes, and we were aware that we didn't want to go into detail regarding each and every one of them. Part of the reason we referenced Proflex was because we had a jacket with it featured within the video itself, and because it's quite an interesting material.
2:34 She's wearing a jacket with Pertex Shield.
Do you know if 3L pertex shield pro is as long lasting as goretex, just the regular bottom tier goretex?
People loooooove to dump on pertex, scared of buying a new jacket unless it’s a goretex
My Raab Pertex soaks through the outer layer. Fine if I'm home and can hang it up to dry, but when camping it's sheer misery.
Any opinions on pertex shieled plus?is it absolute crap ?
How we feeling about the Arc Eco? I’m in the states and bought one through REI (outdoors shop)
It looks great, and from a sustainability perspective is at the absolute cutting edge; however, we're yet to receive one so I can't comment with any more authority than to say 'it looks promising'. That said, I'll chase up where ours has got to, as it's certainly a piece that we're all intrigued about.
@@ukclimbingofficial one big issue - reviews are peppered with people saying it leaked immediately. I have a suspicion that Pertex Shield is somewhat fundamentally flawed, as there does appear to be consistent negative reviews on products that use the material.
What’s the red jacket & beginning of video
That would be the Rab Ladakh GTX: rab.equipment/uk/ladakh-gtx-jacket-aw20
@@ukclimbingofficial can’t find a red XL anywhere 😩 how would you compare the 2 red ones against each other ? Going to use it for walking the dog whatever the weather & use it for playing golf instead of buying an inferior golf model
can u use the pertex shield jacket in winter??
The answer isn't as simple as you might hope, as there are different types of Pertex Shield, namely 2 layer, 2.5 layer and 3 layer. If you're out in winter it's the latter that you'll want, as that will provide superior protection. As such, it's worth checking on exactly which your jacket (or the jacket you're looking at buying) features, as there's quite a big difference between the three in terms of performance.
I have the pertex shield 3L and love it. It's durable but packable n doesn't squeak like gore. The shield air is not really for winter it's thinner.
Can hear that gore Tex squeaking so loud ewwww. Pertex shield air for me.
Great for waterproofing, but a lot less great in terms of its feel. That rustling, particularly on Gore Pro, makes it sound (and feel) a little like chain mail at times!!
regatta waterproof jacket £16 amazon. Done
"waterproof" for how long though?
@@ukclimbingofficial 2 years now. Highlands of Scotland. Heavy rain and dry as a bone.
@@taz2392 That doesn't correlate with our own experience - or the experience of any mountain professions that we work with - but if it works for you then that's great.
I have also experienced this, gave my mate a £20 regatta waterproof after buying an expensive Brad jacket. By the end of our hike, one of us was wet and the other wasn’t. I later asked for the jacket back.
@@ukclimbingofficial The most condescending and polite way of saying 'you're a flipping liar' I have read in a long while.
Never had a gtex jacket yet that has been anything like waterproof. All have been first class disappointment. 👎
Has any alternative worked for you - Paramo, Buffalo etc...?
Maybe you don`t understand how waterproof layering works or it was sweat making you feel wet because GTX is definately waterproof.
They all pack in sooner or later and the commercial reproofing does nt work . One thing which does work 100% for years is 100% silicone thinned down and mixed thoroughly to a thin treacle fluid, paint on , hang out to dry and the rain beads off like off a ducks back , and it lasts.TH-cam DIY waterproofing..Ok the breathability is not far off gone but that does nt work very well anyway .Try and get 100% pure silicone because that sticks better than the adulterated and it has to be clear or transparant .Just TH-cam it and stop wasting big money on crap jackets and leggings
That'd work in terms of waterproofing, but it'd also make it the world's sweatiest jacket. What's the point in having something that's 100% waterproof if it causes you to sweat so much that you're as wet as you would be if you weren't wearing it?!
@@ukclimbingofficial Firstly, Goretex, Pertex does nt work for most and it deteriates quickly after a few heavy rain days anyway .Rain has pollutants and it would soon block up the miniscule holes. Trying to let air out and keep water out does not work very well at all.Secondly, ok you may feel a bit sweaty but you get nowhere near as wet as the wintery freezing rain drenching you through to your skin.
@@stuartchester6899 If Gore Tex etc didn't work, I don't think it'd sell, and if what you're describing actually worked as well as you say it did - we'd all be doing it. I think I'll stick to Nikwax Tech Wash/TX Direct though...