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The 460C surface temperatures, the atmospheric pressure 91 times that of Earth, and the battery acid rain on Venus might all have something to do with it...
At one time, it was theorized Venus was literally the twin planet of Earth, with vast oceans. What caused all the above disasters to kill off the planet, is still a mystery.
@@rafaelgoncalvesdias7459 For any living thing. Nothing can survive 900°F, toxic gases, and extreme pressures. Perhaps at an altitude of 50 kilometers or above the temperatures might be ripe for life, but it'd just me bacteria and whatnot.
@@matthewviramontes3131 the atmospheric density of Venus makes stuff likely to float, and there's various layers not that hostile to life. Unless if you consider that all life can only happen in the surface
60km in the atmosphere is easily the most hospitable place in the solar system outside of Earth. Earth like temperatures and pressure, just no oxygen. If we had cheap reliable tech to colonise that place it would be far better than Mars, almost an Earth 2.0
Still toxic gases. Our Moon is the best spot to set up base camps. It's way closer than anywhere else in the solar system, there's water there, some shade from the Sun, not a horrible place
@@spongebobsucks12 well for me I'd want the "airship" to be as safe as an airplane, and there's no reason they can't get that safe. And you've Earth like gravity too. Personally I'd want to start a lab and create bacteria (to give me something to do) that can live off the atmosphere and creates oxygen. If that's possible. It'd help with the ozone (ozone being O3) and since bacteria grows at an exponential rate people would be surprised at what little time is needed to have a substantial amount of bacteria that makes a difference. I'm sure others would try and figure out ways to cool the planet. We don't have to do it in 1000 years, or even 10,000 (though I bet we would) but since we have millions of years here I bet we have much more time on a habitable Venus than an inhabitable Venus.
@@spongebobsucks12 it sounds to complicated to work with Venus. Heat is much harder to change than cold. Plus all that acid and those thick clouds, Id say Mars was a better choice to pursue, at least for now anyway. What future technology holds may change that.
@@Greg3070 I think for Venus it's just a matter of engineering and we can just go with the knowledge and technology of today. And the acid ain't that bad, we've known for decades which materials react with acid. Like we're a long way off turning Venus into a home (asteroid mining technology would be nice) but we don't have to turn it into a home, just a place to visit
Volcanos on Venus do not resemble any that we have on Earth. With the atmospheric pressure of the planet they are more like pancakes rather than mountains.
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I have frequently read the same mistake in explaining why it is hard to reach Mercury. This is not due to the need to accelerate the spacecraft but the opposite. Yes, mercury orbits the sun much faster than earth. So any spaceship will need to keep up with that speed, but this is not a big problem as moving toward the sun will naturally increase the speed of any spacecraft. Reaching Mercury could theoretically be done in only 1-2 months. However, getting there does not mean being captured by the orbit, and the problem will be that the momentum gained will be so high that the spacecraft will have too much speed to enter into an orbit around Mercury. It will need to slow down quite drastically, but this is not easy to do in the emptiness of space. The solution? Spacecraft are not launched toward mercury, but toward the outer planets, then they use the gravitational assistance of Earth, Venus and Mercury to control their speed to not gain too much momentum, but this takes 5 to 10 years.
@@robertnagel3972 You mean the "MESSENGER" probe? Ended in a crash, yes. Attempted to land, no. - According to the official NASA website. The probe's propellant had been depleted after a series of increasing its orbital height from its mission controllers to recover it (and extend its mission) from a low-orbit research program done previously. Nearing the date of its fate, the controllers learned that there was no way that the probe, with whatever propellant it had left, could recover permanently from its decaying orbit. So, they decided to let it crash.
I already know why but I wish we were lol if we had something that could actually explore the surface! It would be so cool down there, I’d love to see that
I find space fascinating as well, but I picture Venus being like the inside of chemical factory mixing Chamber. Hot, smelling horrible, gasses that burn the eyes, skin and lungs. Sure interesting to drop a camera on there to see what's going on, but no place I would want to go.
Space exploration is obsessed with finding life sustaining planets but it seems to ignore whether or not our neighboring planets like Mercury and Venus would have innovative minerals and other compounds useful for revolutionizing technology.
Asteroid mining will be a thing. Much easier to extract the materials and ship them elsewhere, due to the low gravitational pull of asteroids than a planet.
I think whilst Venus is closer, we don’t have the scientific knowledge to visit it yet. We should focus on learning how long term exposure to radiation in space affects humans and assuming we tackle this problem we should set up a colony on Mars (ideally having set up a Moon Base as well) If our ventures on Mars increase our scientific knowledge to a great enough degree, we should then focus on setting up floating habitats in low orbit around Venus, protected from the immense pressure. It will probably take 100 years at least to colonise the Moon, Mars and Venus but once we’ve reached this point we can begin to put terraforming into practice, something which will in the long term be vital for the survival of the human race. Despite its current composition, it may actually be easier to terraform Venus than Mars, it just depends on if our understanding of science continues at the rate it has.
Why in low orbit? Better in the upper atmosphere of Venus (about 50-55 km altitude) - then temperatures are reasonable, and there's enough atmosphere still above to protect from radiation. Conditions there are pretty Earthlike, apart from the sulfuric acid and the lack of oxygen. It might even be quite worth it to leave the planet more or less as it is - many industrial chemical processes need high temperature and pressure anyway. So you can dangle your industry down from your balloon. There's more along these lines in an answer by user "KarenRei" on Space Stack Exchange to the question "What useful materials can be extracted from Venusian atmosphere?" :)
@@brianhelmick1105 I don't see why colonizing the moon in the next 100 years would be a good idea unless way more money gets funneled into space exploration. Just supplying the moon after its settled would be a commitment of trillions of dollars over not too long a time. And I just don't see that happening unless there's profit in it.
@@PoH42069 you wouldnt colonize the moon so much as build a place to launch interplanetary spacecraft. Basically a hub between smaller vehicles that only to earth > moon trips and vuce versa and the larger things you would want for longer journeys. Any colony that has to have a lot of raw elements sent to it would be a death trap
It's called an "orbit" when an object circles around another. "Spin" is something entirely different. You'd think a video about astronomy would get that right (i.e. when he was describing why Mercury is often closer to Earth than Venus - in fact that whole section was very poorly worded such that it was hard to follow even if one already knows what is going on).
Hmm... Venera 13 only lasted 2 hours, but it was built 41 years ago with cruddy Soviet tech. I have to wonder: Assuming money was no object, how long could we possibly get a lander to last on Venus with current technology? Could we hit a full day? Two? More?
Venus has several volcanos. Scientists believe it's crust much thicker than Earth's suggesting it is an older planet. Sulfur dioxide is present in it's atmosphere which is a bit product of volcano eruptions
Not any probe. Foolio mc dumb stupid pants. The Russians sent a probe that lasted almost an hour or something like that boy. Rumor has it that several black men came out of the ground and smashed the probe so it couldn't document what was really happening on the surface. They then mailed a warning letter to future president trump that they are not to explore venus any further for reasons related to "non ya business boy!!".
Oh I dunno. Maybe the incredibly dense and chaotic atmosphere? Even the probes that were sent there were crushed by the intense gravity not long after landing
we simply dont have the technology to go there yet, but eventually we will. but seeing another planet like venus with volcanos will be incredible thing to see
@@johncate9541 I'd guess the reason we have no cloud cities on Earth has more to do with the fact that they're uneconomical and there is no good reason to build them. Airships are certainly possible and have been built before.
@@Somtejesstudios If we reach that level of skill we won't even care about venus, we'd probably be looking at other resourceful planets in other galaxies
What do you know, I was right. Great, informative stuff. Definitely would like some more videos on NASA missions to Venus because we might not end up exactly like Venus but at the rate we're going we're going to share a similar fate
Russians landed on Venus fourteen times in the 70s and 80s. A 5 ton titanium lander was operable for about an hour before it was crushed by atmospheric pressure and melted. Why would you want missions to Venus lol it's hell
@@glennv3176 use satellites, don’t try to land them. Lot of information can be gained even if the planet is cloud covered. Also the technology has advanced a lot sense the 70s and 80s.
@@gregwilliams853 Satellites can't see anything in or around venus, the atmosphere is about 70km thick, 60km of which is sulphuric acid. Venus had extensive volcanic activity in its early history. This volcanic activity released sulfur into the atmosphere and the high surface temperatures prevented it from being trapped on the surface as it was on Earth. The sulfur accumulated in the atmosphere. The bottom 10km is 'clear' carbon dioxide, only there can you see something. This is why Russia smashed 5 ton titanium landers into the planet. Focus shifted from Venus to Mars because they discovered what Venus is. It would be interesting to know how a planet that was once (probably) similar to earth turned into hell but Mars has potential to sustain human life so that's getting all the attention & funding. Humans always dream about expanding and Venus is a dead end. There is a finite amount of resources, would you rather find out why we can't go to venus, or would you rather find out how we can go to Mars?
I know both Russia and China have sent multiple missions to Venus since the US has. I don't know the results of those missions. Other videos about those missions would be a good.
They have satellites that can read someone's name tag from orbit. Why don't we have the same orbiting Venus? If you know, please explain to me like I don't know shit about it.
I believe it will be fascinating to learn more about Venus and see if we can solve the problem of why it became what it is and if we can turn it into a habitable planet again.
EEr no. When the sun was very young it may have resembled earth a bit. But with no magnetic shield to repel the growing sun all the vegetation etc created Co2 as it burned away to create the oven effect. That and the volcanoes etc with no atmosphere to escape to or dilute to, hence the incredible pressure and heat. You can do nothing with a planet with no magnetic shield. The sun's plasma ejections will always win. Mars is also impossible as it is also constantly irradiated and I forgot, no oxygen as well. At least you won't be a pile of ash on Mars, which is a bonus.
I remember hearing some scientist may have found a gas on Venus Venus that may indicate there was animal life on it at some point. But who knows. They said the gas only comes from decaying. But never really heard about it again. So maybe it was nothing.
I remember hearing some scientist may have found a gas on Venus Venus that may indicate there was animal life on it at some point. But who knows. They said the gas only comes from decaying. But never really heard about it again. So maybe it was nothing.
We don't explore Venus because the goal right now is to explore the possibility of a second home for humanity somewhere in the solar system. Venus is absolutely unsuitable for that purpose.
It's to do with the dirt!! Nasa have different types of moon and Mars dust from different regions of the respective planets so they can replicate a very accurate representation of the dust so they can experiment and test the durability of rovers and the landing of vehicles on the planets. The dust on Mars and Moon are totally different due to asteroid impacts and lack of atmosphere and can damage the machinery, so by getting an accurate representation of the dust and replicating it, it will save time and money, also greatly reducing the risk of breakdowns. With venues and others they don't.
The atmosphere on Venus is not convenient for us to explore. It wouldn't be a wise decision to send rovers there only to get destroyed in the matter of hours. Edit: Hours is our best case scenario. Usually anything we send there will be destroyed within minutes.
Most nights l walk with my daughter and we end up mesmerized by the stars, be they Venus or Mars. With their and our transit around the Sun something l'd like to know more about.
Just make anything you want up, she has that heavy down syndrome so it won't matter what you tell her anyway... she'll never understand it. She'll probably forget 20 minutes after you tell her anyway. She can even remember how to use the toilet properly. Isn't she like, 39 years old and still wearing diapers on the regular?
I can quickly think of several reasons: 1. 900 degree surface temperature 2. Massive atmospheric pressure 3. Sulfuric acid atmosphere 4. The day/night scenario wouldn’t be fun to deal with either.
@@if_art015 surface temperature is most certainly near 900 degrees and the atmospheric pressure is 75x that of earth. One day on Venus lasts 243 earth day while a year is 221+ days. Plus the atmosphere is made of sulfuric acid. So again, which part is wrong?
10:00 I'm astonished that of the interesting moons (maybe containing oceans) of Saturn, you only mentioned Enceladus, despite Titan seems to be more attractive. After all, a probe already landed on Titan in 2005, and there is even a mission using a drone planned for exploring Titan.
I sometimes wonder if maybe we are trying to go to a planet (Mars) that we might have left hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of years ago because it was becoming inhabitable, maybe the atmosphere was degrading and the temperature was getting extremely cold and there was a smaller yet promising planet that was getting cool enough to live there and seemed to have good conditions for life. Maybe one day the sun will get colder and dimmer and we might look at Venus as our best option because the temperature is just right. But what do I know 🤷🏽♂️
@@irockline well, we had the means and tech to go back to the moon and haven’t gone back in decades, seems like the plans for building the rockets are lost and know we have a bunch of companies trying to achieve something that we already did, so I wonder if we came from Mars and we just lost all the information about it, maybe the people that came to earth wanted a fresh start. And like a said in my comment, But what do I know 🤷🏽♂️
@@Darkstar77825 well eventually the sun will die and cool down, it might take more than 5billion years and we will not be ever to see it anyways, but I’m just wondering for fun
What if we could transfer the CO2 from Venus to Mars then put an artificial magnetic field around Mars? Could Mars actually become habitable? Maybe transfer the ice from one of the ice worlds further out in the solar system to give Mars water. I understand all of this would require technology far more advanced than what we have now, but could it eventually be possible?
Mars has actually a fair bit of water there already, and quite a bit of oxygen too, in the form of iron oxide for example, that gives it, its red color. Kurzgesagt made a fairly interesting video about that very subject, terraforming Mars. Though from everything I've watched on the subject, if we could make it live-able, the biggest hurdle that's hard to really 'fix' is the micro-gravity and the effects on the body. Most of the technology needed isn't like some far fetched impossible to imagine crazy thing from thousands of years in the future. It's just that it's on the kind of scales that humanity has never done anything like that yet. Possible eventually. Yes. Likely? Depends a lot on how humanity is gonna shape itself going forward.
It would take a tremendous amount of energy to do that. If a large amount of mass could be added to Mars, it may have enough gravity to hold an atmosphere.
If we had the technology to create artificial gravity/create a magnetic field we would have space hotels by now. Can read about Scott Kelly, tldr his body deteriorate significantly more than expected after living a year in space. And if we had the technology to transfer CO2 in large qualities to different planets we would solve climate change. For Mars the most feasible way of terraforming the planet with current technology crazy enough is to straight up nuke the Martian ice caps which releases the frozen gases and should create an atmosphere. Not that I recommend countries start nuking other planets..
You say artificial magnetic field so casually lmao... dude imagine if there was a device you just throw at the poles of Mars that instantly made one. How much energy would that take!!!!
Because lead melts on the surface.... If we can find a very tall mountain there that rises above the muck...like Larry Nivens Plateau from A Gift From Earth...that would be a win
Being a lot closer to the sun, they evolved sooner. Fatally so during their industrial revolution. They had less time and never understood what was happening❤️
I think we could terraform both planets at the same time if we could move some of the atmosphere from Venus to mars, the only other thing we would need to do first is somehow give mars a magnetic field
Why not Venus? Well other than the fact that we cant build a probe that would survive for very long in the Venusian heat, pressures and acidity. We could spend many millions or more to have a probe that would go there, land, take a few reading and a couple pictures for maybe a day or so and then be crushed or melted. I can think of much better uses for that money right here at home like helping people who are struggling and have to chose between food and heat for starters.
Elon Musk probably thought it was a good idea until someone who wasn't just pretending to be smart told him to shut the fuck up and go pretend to found another stupid company specializing in overpriced and overrated products.
I believe that the poles of Venus are permanently in darkness and much cooler than the rest of the planet. The poles would be a good place to try to land and explore.
You first. Let me know what 500°C (round 850°F) is like for you. Also the suffocating air pressure. And the fiercely acidic rain. I need 22°C, and Earth-like chemistry and air pressure. So you must finish quickly!
Man wants to explore Mars for a very good reason: we are not trying to get to Mars, we are trying to get BACK to Mars. Your own inner clock reverts to that of the Martian day/year when you leave the effects of Earth's gravity.
Aight might sound stupid but what if we made some super massive storage system in 100s of years and then we collected as much of the gasses in the atmosphere we can and then send it all to Mars where those greenhouse effects can become useful not all of the clouds but about 40%
If we ever build a passenger scramjet, which reaches temperatures over 3000°F due to atmospheric drag, we'll be using materials like Tantalum which have a resistance to the sub 1000°F atmosphere of Venus. We'll never be able to treat it like a lush wilderness of any kind, but isn't that primitive? What we can do with Venus blows Mars out the water due to the gravity. As our spacecraft become faster, Venus will remain only a stones throw away and it'll be like traveling to the moon. We're honestly blessed to have this planet right next to us and despite the ease of walking on Mars, it isn't healthy. Despite the danger of walking on Venus, the gravity is no issue and the temperature is nothing more than an impetus to harness the climate of the entire planet for human endeavors there. Doing so will give us a completely custom planet perfectly suited to our every desire, and I believe I even understand how we could mine our way into building subterranean bases there initially, which we would have to fill with our own air. Same deal with Mars. The key for me is the actual safety of Venus, because if we take and hyperdevelop that entire planet it could be the exact opposite of a hell. It doesn't have plate tectonics, meaning it's crust isn't broken and moving around all crazy. It'll make us realize that Earth has always sucked for us in ways that we can leave behind and transcend into a fresh start next door. The key difference is, you could do rickety little NASA shit on Mars immediately, shenanigans that will never fly on Venus. But we could do coruscant level of mega infrastructure on Venus immediately and that would be the only way to be there, but we could never do that type of huge stuff on Mars. We deserve that huge stuff in my opinion. I predict humans on Venus in greater numbers and for longer than Mars, even if we make it to the red planet first. Mars could never be an Earth 2.0 but with earth resources brought there, Venus very easily should be an earth 2000. It just has to get dug up and built, who else wouldn't mind the mystery of what minerals are waiting to be dug up? Our real step into space is the safety of our vehicles, I believe our planetary situation is as good as we would ever know what to do with. It's a plan b always waiting there, and it completely erases the fear of an Apocalypse here if you think big enough
We’re not trying to merely explore a planet. We’re trying to find habitats that we can live in and colonize. Closeness is only one of the factors necessary for choice of habitation prospects.
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The 460C surface temperatures, the atmospheric pressure 91 times that of Earth, and the battery acid rain on Venus might all have something to do with it...
:Sulphuric acid rain
@@ahsangamer2745 A crushing atmosphere.
Not quite shirtsleeve weather.... 🙄
Another way to phrase that question: why do people keep going to Florida on vacation when Indiana is so much closer
At one time, it was theorized Venus was literally the twin planet of Earth, with vast oceans. What caused all the above disasters to kill off the planet, is still a mystery.
I think it would be fascinating to hear more about the Venus missions or any other missions,
I’d love to see uranus
@@RapCityco it has no solid surface so how would we land on it 😐
@@RoxyAnimates i think it was a joke ngl
The venera missions accomplished something really great.
Yeah to see if they can make a probe that will last longer than 59 minutes on that hellish planet
Venus is too inhospitable.
For humans you mean.
Venus has far more probability of life.
Than mars.
@@rafaelgoncalvesdias7459 For any living thing. Nothing can survive 900°F, toxic gases, and extreme pressures. Perhaps at an altitude of 50 kilometers or above the temperatures might be ripe for life, but it'd just me bacteria and whatnot.
@@matthewviramontes3131 the atmospheric density of Venus makes stuff likely to float, and there's various layers not that hostile to life. Unless if you consider that all life can only happen in the surface
Venus is the only planet that the atmosphere and pressure are similar to earth in the clouds at a certain elevation
Unlike your mom's bee whole.
60km in the atmosphere is easily the most hospitable place in the solar system outside of Earth. Earth like temperatures and pressure, just no oxygen. If we had cheap reliable tech to colonise that place it would be far better than Mars, almost an Earth 2.0
Still toxic gases. Our Moon is the best spot to set up base camps. It's way closer than anywhere else in the solar system, there's water there, some shade from the Sun, not a horrible place
Yeah it's the obvious choice but Mars just sounds sexier to the average person. Imo it's not about the science in that regard.
@@spongebobsucks12 well for me I'd want the "airship" to be as safe as an airplane, and there's no reason they can't get that safe. And you've Earth like gravity too. Personally I'd want to start a lab and create bacteria (to give me something to do) that can live off the atmosphere and creates oxygen. If that's possible. It'd help with the ozone (ozone being O3) and since bacteria grows at an exponential rate people would be surprised at what little time is needed to have a substantial amount of bacteria that makes a difference. I'm sure others would try and figure out ways to cool the planet. We don't have to do it in 1000 years, or even 10,000 (though I bet we would) but since we have millions of years here I bet we have much more time on a habitable Venus than an inhabitable Venus.
@@spongebobsucks12 it sounds to complicated to work with Venus. Heat is much harder to change than cold. Plus all that acid and those thick clouds, Id say Mars was a better choice to pursue, at least for now anyway. What future technology holds may change that.
@@Greg3070 I think for Venus it's just a matter of engineering and we can just go with the knowledge and technology of today. And the acid ain't that bad, we've known for decades which materials react with acid. Like we're a long way off turning Venus into a home (asteroid mining technology would be nice) but we don't have to turn it into a home, just a place to visit
I hope Vertias mission really find out the question about if there ever was oceans, lakes on Venus. I also hope those volcanoes 🌋 are still active too
Volcanos on Venus do not resemble any that we have on Earth. With the atmospheric pressure of the planet they are more like pancakes rather than mountains.
I have frequently read the same mistake in explaining why it is hard to reach Mercury. This is not due to the need to accelerate the spacecraft but the opposite. Yes, mercury orbits the sun much faster than earth. So any spaceship will need to keep up with that speed, but this is not a big problem as moving toward the sun will naturally increase the speed of any spacecraft. Reaching Mercury could theoretically be done in only 1-2 months. However, getting there does not mean being captured by the orbit, and the problem will be that the momentum gained will be so high that the spacecraft will have too much speed to enter into an orbit around Mercury. It will need to slow down quite drastically, but this is not easy to do in the emptiness of space. The solution? Spacecraft are not launched toward mercury, but toward the outer planets, then they use the gravitational assistance of Earth, Venus and Mercury to control their speed to not gain too much momentum, but this takes 5 to 10 years.
Yeah I read that too, good to point that at. The only attempt to land a probe on Mercury ended in a crash.
@@robertnagel3972 You mean the "MESSENGER" probe?
Ended in a crash, yes. Attempted to land, no. - According to the official NASA website.
The probe's propellant had been depleted after a series of increasing its orbital height from its mission controllers to recover it (and extend its mission) from a low-orbit research program done previously. Nearing the date of its fate, the controllers learned that there was no way that the probe, with whatever propellant it had left, could recover permanently from its decaying orbit. So, they decided to let it crash.
@@KajiTetsushi I later found that out by watching a video. Thank you for your correction.
@@robertnagel3972 all good, all good...
@@KajiTetsushi 👍👍🙂🙂
I already knew the answer to this, I just wanted to hear someone talk about Venus again.
Me too
I'd imagine it's pressure and heat are way too much for us to handle.
I already know why but I wish we were lol if we had something that could actually explore the surface! It would be so cool down there, I’d love to see that
The Soviet's sent a probe in the 70's. You can find pics on the web.
I find space fascinating as well, but I picture Venus being like the inside of chemical factory mixing Chamber. Hot, smelling horrible, gasses that burn the eyes, skin and lungs. Sure interesting to drop a camera on there to see what's going on, but no place I would want to go.
@@k.d.kelley2830yes but the probe didn’t last long on the surface
There is a Venus rover concept (by Geoffrey Landis); it's called Zephyr.
„cool“
Space exploration is obsessed with finding life sustaining planets but it seems to ignore whether or not our neighboring planets like Mercury and Venus would have innovative minerals and other compounds useful for revolutionizing technology.
Asteroid mining will be a thing. Much easier to extract the materials and ship them elsewhere, due to the low gravitational pull of asteroids than a planet.
I think whilst Venus is closer, we don’t have the scientific knowledge to visit it yet. We should focus on learning how long term exposure to radiation in space affects humans and assuming we tackle this problem we should set up a colony on Mars (ideally having set up a Moon Base as well) If our ventures on Mars increase our scientific knowledge to a great enough degree, we should then focus on setting up floating habitats in low orbit around Venus, protected from the immense pressure. It will probably take 100 years at least to colonise the Moon, Mars and Venus but once we’ve reached this point we can begin to put terraforming into practice, something which will in the long term be vital for the survival of the human race. Despite its current composition, it may actually be easier to terraform Venus than Mars, it just depends on if our understanding of science continues at the rate it has.
Mars is an absolute waste of time. Skip Mars, Build a base on the moon. If Mars was on a freeway, the exit shouldn't even have a gas station.
@@brianhelmick1105damn lol
Why in low orbit? Better in the upper atmosphere of Venus (about 50-55 km altitude) - then temperatures are reasonable, and there's enough atmosphere still above to protect from radiation. Conditions there are pretty Earthlike, apart from the sulfuric acid and the lack of oxygen.
It might even be quite worth it to leave the planet more or less as it is - many industrial chemical processes need high temperature and pressure anyway. So you can dangle your industry down from your balloon. There's more along these lines in an answer by user "KarenRei" on Space Stack Exchange to the question "What useful materials can be extracted from Venusian atmosphere?" :)
@@brianhelmick1105 I don't see why colonizing the moon in the next 100 years would be a good idea unless way more money gets funneled into space exploration. Just supplying the moon after its settled would be a commitment of trillions of dollars over not too long a time. And I just don't see that happening unless there's profit in it.
@@PoH42069 you wouldnt colonize the moon so much as build a place to launch interplanetary spacecraft. Basically a hub between smaller vehicles that only to earth > moon trips and vuce versa and the larger things you would want for longer journeys. Any colony that has to have a lot of raw elements sent to it would be a death trap
It's called an "orbit" when an object circles around another. "Spin" is something entirely different. You'd think a video about astronomy would get that right (i.e. when he was describing why Mercury is often closer to Earth than Venus - in fact that whole section was very poorly worded such that it was hard to follow even if one already knows what is going on).
Hmm... Venera 13 only lasted 2 hours, but it was built 41 years ago with cruddy Soviet tech. I have to wonder: Assuming money was no object, how long could we possibly get a lander to last on Venus with current technology? Could we hit a full day? Two? More?
Venus must still have an active core creating it's magnetosphere otherwise solar winds would have stripped away it's atmosphere a long time ago.
Venus has several volcanos. Scientists believe it's crust much thicker than Earth's suggesting it is an older planet. Sulfur dioxide is present in it's atmosphere which is a bit product of volcano eruptions
Great video !
Venus surface temp is 480°C melting any space probe we send in there..
So Mars..
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Not any probe. Foolio mc dumb stupid pants. The Russians sent a probe that lasted almost an hour or something like that boy. Rumor has it that several black men came out of the ground and smashed the probe so it couldn't document what was really happening on the surface. They then mailed a warning letter to future president trump that they are not to explore venus any further for reasons related to "non ya business boy!!".
Oh I dunno. Maybe the incredibly dense and chaotic atmosphere? Even the probes that were sent there were crushed by the intense gravity not long after landing
we simply dont have the technology to go there yet, but eventually we will. but seeing another planet like venus with volcanos will be incredible thing to see
we've been there already, the real problem is designing something that can _stay_ there
@@jacobjohnson2603 We already have the technology to live on Venus. Just not on its surface.
@@thiagogoncalves7389 No, we do not. If we could do what those crackpots say, we'd have floating cloud cities on Earth.
@@johncate9541 I'd guess the reason we have no cloud cities on Earth has more to do with the fact that they're uneconomical and there is no good reason to build them. Airships are certainly possible and have been built before.
We won't, but _they_ will. Our future generations are so so important.
The Russians successfully landed a space probe on Venus. It managed to send back images of the surface before contact was lost.
TLDR: Because Venus has conditions which would kill you instantly
There's no doubting it, l just love this stand out channel. So well done my CURIOUS friends! ❤
It will disappoint you to know then, that the creators of this channel think you are in fact gayer than aids.
Of course we want to see more about Venus!
Especially possible life in the clouds
Yes, we have the technology to send missions to the Venusian atmosphere. We can send balloons and gliders into the upper atmosphere very easily.
Life on Venus is impossible
@@kaym7549 it is if we build a dsyon sphere around the sun
@@Somtejesstudios If we reach that level of skill we won't even care about venus, we'd probably be looking at other resourceful planets in other galaxies
@@kaym7549 Least likely, not unlikely or impossible
We should definitely be trying to explore more about Venus
Obviously unmanned
The closest planet to us is literal hell. I feel like that's symbolic of something.
So would earth be considered heaven! Just saying .
@@LadellTurner Earth is ok, but heaven is serious stretch. Lol
@@LadellTurner Earth could've been like heaven if Eve didn't eat the forbidden fruit.
Nothings gonna happen…. It’s just a random coincidence… plus it’s a coincidence that was likely to happen
@@willverschneider1102 I mean that's fiction but ok
I would love to see a mission to venus. I enjoyed the video and look forward for more to come.
Manned or unmanned?
@@nathanb780unmanned no man can go to Venus
@@pastoryoda2789 oh man can go to Venus. He just won’t be making it back any time soon!! 🤣🤣
The Russian Federation will be sending a manned mission to the clouds of Venus.
Russians did it already. They landed a couple landers and took pictures.
What do you know, I was right. Great, informative stuff. Definitely would like some more videos on NASA missions to Venus because we might not end up exactly like Venus but at the rate we're going we're going to share a similar fate
Actually yes, I would like to hear more about future missions to Venus, be interesting to know why it’s atmosphere is so hostile.
Because it has so much CO2 in the atmosphere. The end.
we already know why
Russians landed on Venus fourteen times in the 70s and 80s. A 5 ton titanium lander was operable for about an hour before it was crushed by atmospheric pressure and melted. Why would you want missions to Venus lol it's hell
@@glennv3176 use satellites, don’t try to land them. Lot of information can be gained even if the planet is cloud covered. Also the technology has advanced a lot sense the 70s and 80s.
@@gregwilliams853 Satellites can't see anything in or around venus, the atmosphere is about 70km thick, 60km of which is sulphuric acid. Venus had extensive volcanic activity in its early history. This volcanic activity released sulfur into the atmosphere and the high surface temperatures prevented it from being trapped on the surface as it was on Earth. The sulfur accumulated in the atmosphere. The bottom 10km is 'clear' carbon dioxide, only there can you see something. This is why Russia smashed 5 ton titanium landers into the planet. Focus shifted from Venus to Mars because they discovered what Venus is. It would be interesting to know how a planet that was once (probably) similar to earth turned into hell but Mars has potential to sustain human life so that's getting all the attention & funding. Humans always dream about expanding and Venus is a dead end. There is a finite amount of resources, would you rather find out why we can't go to venus, or would you rather find out how we can go to Mars?
Yes please release more info on Venus and any plans to return and put a helicopter or rover there
CGP Grey made a great video talking about which planet is actually "mostest closes" to us already.
of course going to either venus or mercury would be absolutely insane
Yes, please make video about the future missions to Venus🌍
I know both Russia and China have sent multiple missions to Venus since the US has. I don't know the results of those missions. Other videos about those missions would be a good.
@@joezolo9986 Mariner missions and Vanera missions. You can read about it. Public record stuff.
I'm thinking because there's no friggin way we could ever ever live there.
Yeah, Venus is currently impossible to live on, except for the places where it's possible.
They have satellites that can read someone's name tag from orbit. Why don't we have the same orbiting Venus? If you know, please explain to me like I don't know shit about it.
A satellite couldn't get visual images of the surface of Venus,because the atmosphere is simply too thick for light waves to penetrate it.
They stopped exploring Venus as there was something so terrifying there, that they darn't continue to probe.
I could imagine there could be subterranean life there, same as Mars. Any idea of what that terrifying discovery was?
@@stevejamieson8468 cthulu
The surface of the entire planet of Venus is terrifying. Venus is hot enough to melt lead.
Because Venus is basically hell, and Mars is a virtual paradise compared to Venus, that’s why.
I believe it will be fascinating to learn more about Venus and see if we can solve the problem of why it became what it is and if we can turn it into a habitable planet again.
EEr no. When the sun was very young it may have resembled earth a bit. But with no magnetic shield to repel the growing sun all the vegetation etc created Co2 as it burned away to create the oven effect. That and the volcanoes etc with no atmosphere to escape to or dilute to, hence the incredible pressure and heat. You can do nothing with a planet with no magnetic shield. The sun's plasma ejections will always win. Mars is also impossible as it is also constantly irradiated and I forgot, no oxygen as well. At least you won't be a pile of ash on Mars, which is a bonus.
its because ppl were driving to many suv's there
I remember hearing some scientist may have found a gas on Venus Venus that may indicate there was animal life on it at some point. But who knows. They said the gas only comes from decaying. But never really heard about it again. So maybe it was nothing.
I remember hearing some scientist may have found a gas on Venus Venus that may indicate there was animal life on it at some point. But who knows. They said the gas only comes from decaying. But never really heard about it again. So maybe it was nothing.
i don’t believe it can become habitable again, but maybe we can learn how venus got to its current state and how it can be prevented here on earth
We don't explore Venus because the goal right now is to explore the possibility of a second home for humanity somewhere in the solar system. Venus is absolutely unsuitable for that purpose.
It's to do with the dirt!!
Nasa have different types of moon and Mars dust from different regions of the respective planets so they can replicate a very accurate representation of the dust so they can experiment and test the durability of rovers and the landing of vehicles on the planets.
The dust on Mars and Moon are totally different due to asteroid impacts and lack of atmosphere and can damage the machinery, so by getting an accurate representation of the dust and replicating it, it will save time and money, also greatly reducing the risk of breakdowns.
With venues and others they don't.
Venus is like that guy you meet who seems really chill, but then you find out he's totally crazy
The atmosphere on Venus is not convenient for us to explore. It wouldn't be a wise decision to send rovers there only to get destroyed in the matter of hours.
Edit: Hours is our best case scenario. Usually anything we send there will be destroyed within minutes.
Not true, some of the russian space probes lasted nearly 90 mins on the surface. We would last 0.5 seconds. But what a 0.5 seconds.
I don’t get why Titan (largest moon of Saturn) isn’t given consideration over Mars for colonization.
Because it's more than 1 BILLION kilometers farther than Mars
As much as Mars sucks as a planet, Venus sucks more.
yéß it dóßé
It's too 🔥
Most nights l walk with my daughter and we end up mesmerized by the stars, be they Venus or Mars. With their and our transit around the Sun something l'd like to know more about.
Just make anything you want up, she has that heavy down syndrome so it won't matter what you tell her anyway... she'll never understand it. She'll probably forget 20 minutes after you tell her anyway. She can even remember how to use the toilet properly. Isn't she like, 39 years old and still wearing diapers on the regular?
What the h*** did I just read
@@hansredbaron4689 I know right? What's this m & m dude all about right?
Who's "Lorenzo*?!
@@dedheddred1773 An unregistered sex offender from the south side of Los Angeles.
I can quickly think of several reasons:
1. 900 degree surface temperature
2. Massive atmospheric pressure
3. Sulfuric acid atmosphere
4. The day/night scenario wouldn’t be fun to deal with either.
False
@@if_art015 ok which is false?
@@krt88nc Everything
@@if_art015 surface temperature is most certainly near 900 degrees and the atmospheric pressure is 75x that of earth. One day on Venus lasts 243 earth day while a year is 221+ days. Plus the atmosphere is made of sulfuric acid. So again, which part is wrong?
@@krt88nc all of it
Venus probably doesn’t have enough coffee shops to support every day life
I think you answered the question 2 minutes in by referring to Venus as an “inhospitable scorching hell”, rest of the video was superfluous!
I would like to see more Venus videos I definitely want to know more
10:00 I'm astonished that of the interesting moons (maybe containing oceans) of Saturn, you only mentioned Enceladus, despite Titan seems to be more attractive. After all, a probe already landed on Titan in 2005, and there is even a mission using a drone planned for exploring Titan.
Sulphuric acid rain 💀 I’ll pass on that planet thanks.
How would we ever know
Governments Classify Every Finding
I sometimes wonder if maybe we are trying to go to a planet (Mars) that we might have left hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of years ago because it was becoming inhabitable, maybe the atmosphere was degrading and the temperature was getting extremely cold and there was a smaller yet promising planet that was getting cool enough to live there and seemed to have good conditions for life. Maybe one day the sun will get colder and dimmer and we might look at Venus as our best option because the temperature is just right. But what do I know 🤷🏽♂️
Explain how that would be possible when we just landed on the moon in the last half century
@@irockline well, we had the means and tech to go back to the moon and haven’t gone back in decades, seems like the plans for building the rockets are lost and know we have a bunch of companies trying to achieve something that we already did, so I wonder if we came from Mars and we just lost all the information about it, maybe the people that came to earth wanted a fresh start. And like a said in my comment, But what do I know 🤷🏽♂️
Did blud really say in the future that the Sun will get colder?? 🤨😨😨💥💯💯
@@Darkstar77825 well eventually the sun will die and cool down, it might take more than 5billion years and we will not be ever to see it anyways, but I’m just wondering for fun
That'd be a nice scenario for a movie :)
We'd explore Uranus more but it's hard to get to
What if we could transfer the CO2 from Venus to Mars then put an artificial magnetic field around Mars? Could Mars actually become habitable? Maybe transfer the ice from one of the ice worlds further out in the solar system to give Mars water. I understand all of this would require technology far more advanced than what we have now, but could it eventually be possible?
Mars has actually a fair bit of water there already, and quite a bit of oxygen too, in the form of iron oxide for example, that gives it, its red color. Kurzgesagt made a fairly interesting video about that very subject, terraforming Mars. Though from everything I've watched on the subject, if we could make it live-able, the biggest hurdle that's hard to really 'fix' is the micro-gravity and the effects on the body.
Most of the technology needed isn't like some far fetched impossible to imagine crazy thing from thousands of years in the future. It's just that it's on the kind of scales that humanity has never done anything like that yet. Possible eventually. Yes. Likely? Depends a lot on how humanity is gonna shape itself going forward.
It would take a tremendous amount of energy to do that. If a large amount of mass could be added to Mars, it may have enough gravity to hold an atmosphere.
If we had the technology to create artificial gravity/create a magnetic field we would have space hotels by now. Can read about Scott Kelly, tldr his body deteriorate significantly more than expected after living a year in space.
And if we had the technology to transfer CO2 in large qualities to different planets we would solve climate change.
For Mars the most feasible way of terraforming the planet with current technology crazy enough is to straight up nuke the Martian ice caps which releases the frozen gases and should create an atmosphere.
Not that I recommend countries start nuking other planets..
You say artificial magnetic field so casually lmao... dude imagine if there was a device you just throw at the poles of Mars that instantly made one. How much energy would that take!!!!
@@Za11oy Absolutely possible. In our children's, children's, children's great great great grandchildrens lifetime? Unlikely.
Venus barely had any tectonic plates
Closest planet depends on day of the year
Because lead melts on the surface....
If we can find a very tall mountain there that rises above the muck...like Larry Nivens Plateau from A Gift From Earth...that would be a win
The Russians already explored Venus many many years ago. They got some cool photos too.
The heat and pressure
I sincerely hope we don't find life on Venus, as living in and being from the UK it's 100% nailed on that we'll start sending em money...Sigh!!
This video should be no more than 5 seconds long
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So Venus's orbit is closer to Earth's orbit
Why not go camping inside the Caldara of a active erupting volcano?
Sounds fun!
What If Earth and Venus switched places
What If Mars and Mercury swapped orbits
What if Earth was in the Andromeda Galaxy
Being a lot closer to the sun, they evolved sooner. Fatally so during their industrial revolution. They had less time and never understood what was happening❤️
Imagine millions of years ago the planets use to have life but was destroyed and making it unhabitable like what we are doing now to our planet
They drove their SUVs too much there and look what happened
Maybe a video on methods of terraforming Venus...
Get your ass to mars!! Do it now!!
Ditto
I think we could terraform both planets at the same time if we could move some of the atmosphere from Venus to mars, the only other thing we would need to do first is somehow give mars a magnetic field
Totes realistic. You must be some kind of ultra high level scientist. Smart like rocks. Very well intelligenced for sure.
maybe just crash venus into mars while we are at it
You guys act like this isn’t possible when in reality this is totally possible in the future
We don't even have a cure for cancer and you think terraforming Venus is possible. You are living in clouds.
@@Paulo34343 in the future we could within the next 3-400 years or so certainly not in our lifetime but we are close
Venus is hotter than a oven. Imagine being roasted like a turkey but not the delicious golden brown turkey... more like burnt and shard.
Why not Venus? Well other than the fact that we cant build a probe that would survive for very long in the Venusian heat, pressures and acidity. We could spend many millions or more to have a probe that would go there, land, take a few reading and a couple pictures for maybe a day or so and then be crushed or melted. I can think of much better uses for that money right here at home like helping people who are struggling and have to chose between food and heat for starters.
How about we probe Uranus?
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Too hard for them to fake Venus realistically enough... Moon easy, make everything grey. Mars easy, make everything red.
It’s a 13 minute video with some fascinating info. But the answer is pretty short and simple: Venus is too hot!
But all we need is a good air conditioner and we'd be good to go!
If anyone asks this question it shows that they need a good science education.
Elon Musk probably thought it was a good idea until someone who wasn't just pretending to be smart told him to shut the fuck up and go pretend to found another stupid company specializing in overpriced and overrated products.
You'd have to put up a starshade to live on venus. Might have to watch out for protomolecule?
I believe that the poles of Venus are permanently in darkness and much cooler than the rest of the planet. The poles would be a good place to try to land and explore.
Of course we want more videos!
You first. Let me know what 500°C (round 850°F) is like for you. Also the suffocating air pressure. And the fiercely acidic rain.
I need 22°C, and Earth-like chemistry and air pressure. So you must finish quickly!
TLDR: it’s literal hell
This is hilarious! 🤣
Calvin is waiting for us on Mars.
Venus will be past the habitable zone, once earth is scorched by the sun, Mars takes Earths place.
Man wants to explore Mars for a very good reason: we are not trying to get to Mars, we are trying to get BACK to Mars. Your own inner clock reverts to that of the Martian day/year when you leave the effects of Earth's gravity.
I think if you look at cost effectiveness. What you learn vs how much it costs, makes Venus a no go.
Aight might sound stupid but what if we made some super massive storage system in 100s of years and then we collected as much of the gasses in the atmosphere we can and then send it all to Mars where those greenhouse effects can become useful not all of the clouds but about 40%
Because lead is liquid at "room temperature" and the pressure is enough to pancake a tank. Next video topic plis.
Earth is the planet closest to Earth.
We successfully landed a vehicle on Venus but it didn't last long. Whereas, vehicles we have landed on Mars have lasted for years.
when we can come up with a metal that doesnt evaporate so easily, then we can explore venus lol
If we ever build a passenger scramjet, which reaches temperatures over 3000°F due to atmospheric drag, we'll be using materials like Tantalum which have a resistance to the sub 1000°F atmosphere of Venus. We'll never be able to treat it like a lush wilderness of any kind, but isn't that primitive? What we can do with Venus blows Mars out the water due to the gravity. As our spacecraft become faster, Venus will remain only a stones throw away and it'll be like traveling to the moon. We're honestly blessed to have this planet right next to us and despite the ease of walking on Mars, it isn't healthy. Despite the danger of walking on Venus, the gravity is no issue and the temperature is nothing more than an impetus to harness the climate of the entire planet for human endeavors there. Doing so will give us a completely custom planet perfectly suited to our every desire, and I believe I even understand how we could mine our way into building subterranean bases there initially, which we would have to fill with our own air. Same deal with Mars. The key for me is the actual safety of Venus, because if we take and hyperdevelop that entire planet it could be the exact opposite of a hell. It doesn't have plate tectonics, meaning it's crust isn't broken and moving around all crazy. It'll make us realize that Earth has always sucked for us in ways that we can leave behind and transcend into a fresh start next door. The key difference is, you could do rickety little NASA shit on Mars immediately, shenanigans that will never fly on Venus. But we could do coruscant level of mega infrastructure on Venus immediately and that would be the only way to be there, but we could never do that type of huge stuff on Mars. We deserve that huge stuff in my opinion. I predict humans on Venus in greater numbers and for longer than Mars, even if we make it to the red planet first. Mars could never be an Earth 2.0 but with earth resources brought there, Venus very easily should be an earth 2000. It just has to get dug up and built, who else wouldn't mind the mystery of what minerals are waiting to be dug up? Our real step into space is the safety of our vehicles, I believe our planetary situation is as good as we would ever know what to do with. It's a plan b always waiting there, and it completely erases the fear of an Apocalypse here if you think big enough
Yes, let's explore the bowels of Hades where it rains sulfuric acid and maintains a constant 800°+ air temperature
Because Venus is the very definition of uninhabitable in every way you can possibly think of
We’re not trying to merely explore a planet. We’re trying to find habitats that we can live in and colonize. Closeness is only one of the factors necessary for choice of habitation prospects.
What if Venus is the old earth but due to our human ancestors it becomes unhabitable which is slowly happening to our current Earth
It’s too hot we would melt, Mars reaches temps of 70 degrees Fahrenheit
yes
@@sharonbraselton4302 mars is actually 52 million miles while Venus is 152 million miles away
@@hyrulemasterchef9573 no, Venus is way closer. Also, 70 Degrees Fahrenheit isn’t even that hot… Venus gets up to 800 Fahrenheit… (around 420 Celsius)
We need a space craft and space suit to withstand this heat in Venus!🤔
Because Venus is mankind's distant past home. Mars will be the future for mankind in a million years.
Should I be worried that robot voices are becoming more real?
In a phrase, Poisonous Atmosphere. Mars is much easier to deal with, sans atmosphere than Venus with it's built in problems.