Is there a possibility that you won't be able to get the house/mill or is it just the waiting? It may feel backward to start with the land around the house until you have the house but obviously the world isn't perfect so you detour right?
Please please assure us all that you are fully protected in writing that the deed will be transfered to you and the current owners nor the city hall can change their minds once you have done all the renovation. Wishing you both the very best❤❤
Exactly what I am concerned about!!! Also what if the person who owns it now happened to pass away in the meantime?? God forbid that happens, but if it did.. is their any legal assurance that you will still be able to get the deed in your name??
@@Karatemom68x3 good point. Thus happened, though in a milder way to a friend of mind, a very complex estate that took 5 years to unwind since the person who died left no will and had a very complex set of businesses, and near the end of the period, one of the beneficiaries died leaving a set of new beneficiaries who needed to get their own lawyers involved and it added another year to the time needed to decide who got what. And that was with beneficiaries who could be contacted and were "friendly". Imagine if one was hostile, challenged the split and so on.
@@Joe-lb8qn wow Joe, 😬definitely not a position you want to find yourself in when thinking you “ own it” and put so much time, labor, and money into it 🙏🤞🙏🤞hoping and praying everything goes well for these two!!! I hate to hear that about the trouble your friends went through!!! Such a bummer!!
All this must be so frustrating! I've lived abroad many years, and don't ever underestimate the power of culture shock. It may not set in for a few months, but be aware that it's coming, and that it will pass with time. Know that there are a lot of us out here inspired by all your adventures.
One thing that you should also be aware is that one or both of the property owners pass away, the property automatically goes to the heirs. So have your attorney draw up a contract stating that if and when that happens to the owners ( you never know) that the property is your's and the amount both parties argued is what the heirs will receive. Good luck
A piece of advise, start cleaning the property you already own, because of wild fires the rules in Portugal are very strict and owning land and not cleaning it can get you a massive legal fine, besides you want it clean in case of a wildfire. Doing it now before the summer heat starts is the best thing to do. Also any bonfires to burn the weeds and stuff, you need a permit ( again because of wildfires)
@@Mrandmrsadventure It's a big adventure :) But the cleaner it is, the safest for you and your trees and the house. Also the permit for a bonfire is not complicated, you just need to ask when you can do it, because during the summer it is forbidden, obviously, but they will know about weather conditions and the best days to do it. Clouded, slight rainy days.
To the first project should be to start strimming all the overgrowth. Fires are really bad in summer. Just look at Indie Projects property. You don’t need that to happen at the water mill. Good luck and love to you both.
@@cathybarrett5675 I thought the same, it was heartbreaking for them. Plus i am Portuguese, it's really problematic and heartbreaking to us all and a real worry.
For sure that is like what I kept hearing him saying “toaster app” for the first 5 or 6 times. Then it all made sense when they said to get the camper on the land… ooooh! Lol.
My only suggestion would be work on the river as your first project. Install and water mill to turn a generator to charge your battery bank. It runs 24/7.
I live in a 1890's home that had been neglected and empty for some time. You will love polishing your rock to make a gem as we have. Looking forward to seeing your gem.👍😀
Sorry I still don't fully understand the situation. You have a contract and deposit on the building but you need to buy the land moving up to the building so it's not landlocked and you have room to move around? Or you have to buy the peace of land going up to the property and the building but can't buy either because you want to use their building permit so you don't have to reapply for a new one? You own a van that you want to live in while you renovate someone's property but you can’t use the shed on the property to store the tools in. Your lawyer saved you buy telling you not to buy the property or properties but do the renovation still because you have a contract in place that protects you which doesn't have an escape clause for the real owners and you trust the nice family owners who didn't tell you about not owning the other peace of property. 😉👍
I think they own the shed but not the door .😮😊 or they own the drive way and the current owners want them to renovate their building before the permit "expires" at midnight 🙄 🤔 😉 So who's Cinderella 🤔 in this story?
@@dudateam I prefer 2x speed with captions then slow to 1.5 after the fluff. But they do own the van, the tools, possibly the drive way, the door of the shed but not the walls. They are using the existing work permit to save on bureaucracy so they will be able to build their mailbox but not get an address from the postmaster since they don't own the shed or mill.😊
It is a complex situation. We own the land surrounding the mill as we purchased it from the neighbor. The watermill came with essentially no land around it (weird property lines). Then, we had to have the seller renew the construction permit before the permit renewal expiration date, as it was set to expire before the signing of the deed into our names. Then, after they renewed the construction license, city hall said they could not transfer the deed into our names because the open construction project was in the same of the current owner/seller. Now we must wait until the open construction project is complete before the deed can be transferred. Hope that helps explain a very complicated situation we too are still wrapping our heads around, but we feel confident in how we are all moving forward with it 🙏❤️💪
Buy yourselves a really good weed trimmer, gas powered Stihl for example. Then get steel wire lines for it not plastic. Make sure you also buy a face guard and hearing protection. It will cut through an amazing amount with ease. It will be worth every penny! I speak from experience.
Get some portable solar electric fencing, and a few goats to help with cleaning up all of the overgrown brush. Keep moving the portable fencing to different area's, and in no time your overgrown brush will disappear, while keeping your energy on the renovation of home... The goats can be a source of meat and milk living off grid depending on what type of goats you get.
So if you can’t own till it’s done - what happens to the property if the current owner passes while your in the process. Will your rights be protected. This seems scary -risky.
That beautiful place is so worth fighting for. Such a wild Catch22 you're caught in. So, if the owner had let the construction permit lapse you might never have gotten one? Did I understand that properly? Then once the construction permit is back in effect the owner cannot sign the property over to you until the project is completed? Whew. What a process you have to wade through. Will you be paying them rent while you renovate the darling water mill? (Just ignore if I'm being too nosy.) Does that construction permit include plans and blueprints you have to follow? My brain gets tired thinking about all this. Bless you in your endeavors. Be safe and know you are loved.
Yes, you understood all of that perfectly! We have come to an agreement and will be sharing another update on it all soon ❤️ The construction permit was granted because we submitted architectural plans that incorporated some few minor changes that address (and fix) why the permit was pulled in the first place back in 2016. So much more to share in the coming days.. months.. years! Just feeling so called to love it all back to life ❤️💪✨!!!
Congrats on owning the land! I've been to Monchique and the area is magical. I almost bought a property there with 2 dams. Locals call it "this mountain"; even though it doesn't look like a singular, tall mountain, they are right: the whole area was once a giant volcano that got weathered down over the millennia. Monchique the town has a nice vibe, there is a thermal spa from hot springs in the area, and the air has that fresh mountain quality, and it's some of the cleanest air anywhere in Europe. Some of the plants growing on your land are probably edible: look for parsley and mint, possibly wild celery (careful to identify as there are some similar-looking dangerous relatives), and I''d definitely try out the squashes! (PS those are shamrocks / oxalis, not clover ;-) ... a lot of people confuse the two.)
Why can’t you store tools if you are allowed to finish the construction on the water mill building? Can you work but need to take out tools every day? Looks like you’ll be building a storage workshop first. Which will be good a thing to have in the long run too. My heart and soul is with you two on this. Sending love and strength… excited to see your progress ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
First time watching you guys after watching LEAW this morning. Love you guys already. Looking forward to watching you guys renovate. Ottavia from Australia. xxx
Não trabalhem numa propriedade que ainda não é vossa, nem gastem dinheiro a reconstruirem se a propriedade não está em vosso nome. Quem tem de cumprir com os requesitos legais para poder vender é o atual proprietário. Muita atenção para não de arrependerem. Boa sorte.
I totally agree. I am not sure that I fully understand the situation here, however, if you are saying that some works need to be made before you can buy the property, and it is you, the buyers, that will pay for the works before you buy the place, then please, please, please heed the advice from Antonio here. Sellers must ensure that THEY legalise anything required before they sell the property. Why would they not is the question here. In the meantime, I sincerely hope everything works out well, and that you get to own that special place.
I don't think they apreciate comments that are not about cheerleading, like: You are doing great, How nice! You have accomplished so much!!! Fast forward a few months and the cracks are opening up... already. More to come. Good for clicks, init?
We just bought 10 acres of forest on a mtn in Tennessee and had to go thru 911 to get an address, it was interesting. We understand that overwhelming feeling quite well, but its such a fun process if you can compartmentalize and not get overwhelmed, only 1 or 2 projects at a time. Let it unfold naturally, I have learned that the land will show you what it needs and wants. Congrats on your beautiful purchase!
You have water and sun . Attitude matters and that’s what I enjoy about your stories. I’m certain there are many points of light reflecting ‘the force’ in your direction.
Another YT channel is Our Portuguese Homestead, where they've done amazing things over the past 4 years. Waiting for 2 years may sound like a lot, but you'll have a lot to do to get the surrounding terrain prepped, and to learn language and culture. Exciting times.
You never finished explaining about how there was an open project aspect connected to the water milll and how that means getting the deed in your name fell through... because the big bug was whizzing around and upset Brittany.. How did it go from getting the deed in your name now to having to wait until all the construction is complete? And, you can do it. You have each other's support, you have faith and patience and are ready to learn!
Hi there! Sorry, as it's a complex thing to experience and explain. The current owner needed to sign the papers to have the construction permit reinstated before the expiration deadline (which was happening before our "closing date"). But then, when our "closing date" came, the camara (city hall) said they could not transfer the deed into our names because there was an open construction project in the name of the current owner and the only time the deed could be transferred into our name is once the current construction project is seen through to completion. Hopefully that helps explain it all a bit more clearly 🙏
@@Mrandmrsadventure Wow, that sounds so sketchy. I can only hope your lawyer is looking out for your best interests! Best of luck to you overcoming these massive hurdles.
Stay in your element with the earth. Your vibrations are high already and everything is ripe for you guys to make a serious impression, God Bless you, you’re friend from Alaska 🙏❤️
Can wait for you to get the keys! Regarding the land, it seems you already have some fruits/vegetables growing. I would recommend identify and protect them before you start cleaning up the land. LOVE YOUR ADVENTURES ❤
Meus amigos falem com ingleses que ja compraram quintas abandonadas em Portugal porque eles podem ajudar muito nas vossas duvidas. Adorei vocês sao muito simpaticos nao desanimem . Que Deus os ajude muito e obrigado ❤❤
Hi Drew and Britney we too bought a piece of property that had a problem where the owners didn’t have the right documents to sell the property to us but what they did was they honoured our bid by faith and we moved right into the property and we started renovating and it took over a year but the piece of property became our own all due to pure faith in the sale I wish that for you guys that the owners could just let you move in in full faith that it’s going to be yours and they’re gonna work out their problems on paper. That’s my wish for you.❤️
Do you follow thee Indie Projects? They were van lifers but bought a barn in Portugal that they renovated and now they have a farm in Portugal that they are repairing after fires and floods. You would love Bea and Theo. You have so much in common!
When I was in the CCC we would deal with arunda, bamboo like plant, by sawing it off with a weed whacker that had a saw blade. We would Cut them off, close to the ground and paint the top of each tube with herbicide so it just kills the bamboo. Then after weeks go by, you tear it out/dig it up. You can let it biodegrade but then the poison will eventually go in the ground.
Oh boy two years is going to go by fast. Sending you lots of love and prayers for smooth and easy construction and remodeling. You two are amazing. ❤🥰 Thanks for sharing.
Plz Be sure to have the Exact Specifications as to what improvements must be done. So when you think all the work is completed in a year or two, the city officials can't say you have to do more or it wasn't done in a way they approve of and won't give you the deed. I've seen b.s. like that happen. All the best and hope it all works out great!
Those refrigerators use ammonia absorption and a lot of times its as simple as being on an uneven surface can cause the ammonia to settle in a place that doesn't allow for proper Refrigeration. Happened all the time in our little 1974 boler trailer.
In time all will be sorted💕Make sure you're allowed to live "permanently" in your camper on the land, while constructing the water mill. Good luck and thanks for sharing! With love from Sweden💙💛
Love your outlook guys ❤ It’ll be an incredible journey, and a deeply fulfilling destination when you get there and have the home of your dreams 🙏🏼 Cheering you guys on from the North!! 🎉
We live in a small community on the Oregon coast. We did not have mail service here until we banded together a little over a year ago and had meetings with the post master several times to have a cluster box put in our area. 2 small post offices were closed around that time and the closest one to us ran out of po boxes, so some people had to drive 20 miles to rent a box and pick up mail. The cost for a cluster box was around $100 per household and that was for the cost of the whole unit of 26 boxes, of course, it stays with the house forever. Now, no more 10 mile round trips for us to the nearest town to pick up mail at a post office box. So, this place had never had service here in the past and our house was built in 1948. We are so happy for the convenience now and that we collaborated on making this happen. Kathleen
So glad you have a lawyer you trust. One step at a time you will turn this beautiful place into a diamond. Sounds like it already has a history of love put I to it.❤
My wife Bernadette & I want to thank you for your inspirational videos. We wish you all the best with your new project. Take care of each other as you usually do and take one step at a time. We look forward to watching your progress from here in Winnipeg, Canada. God bless.
Hey ! Came across your reply , had to reach out to you and this was the only way I knew how . We too are in Winnipeg and looking to relocate to Portugal, was wondering if you may be interested in talking and sharing research and thoughts ?
hello im portuguese and already renovate 2 houses. my father have a construction company so anything u need just ask.. be really careful with the river passing inside your future home(is a mill so the water have to cross the house) otherwise u will died with humidity milddo etcetc
Just to wish you lots of luck on the purchase of the 2° part of the property. I'm actually a lawyer in Portugal and understand exactly what you are being through, it can drive you crazy 😢 Don't give up please, my country can be defying sometimes, but it's worth it, the people are very nice (most of them😉). And for us, for sure you are going to make a difference, for the better, in that small town. Once again, all the best, and be patient, belive that everything will work out in the end. 💜💙💚💛
Im a late follower so im chasing each episodes. I suggest that you numbered every episodes since you started purchased your property. Like Martijn Doolards vlogs that i followed weekly since episodes #1.
Love seeing you guys breaking ground on your new homestead! That's tricky with the red tape you have to go through but I'm sure it will work out. You already have some amazing people on your side there! Loved the ending in the river! 💖
You are being so patient and positive. Hopefully the officials will be impressed with the people you are and move forward establishing you in Portugal.
I hope you put a clause into your contract to be able to pull out if the glitches ie the land not owned by you in front of your property can not be resolved.
Hey, we are neighbours😀. Well we live just 5km from your town shown in this video. If you need some support, we can probably answer a few questions in person. Just drop us a line and we can figure out a way to meet up. Great to see you in this region, full of energy and passion. It is a small world here, so we will for sure see you around. Andy and Cheryl
Absolutely love watching you guys, you are literally living the dream I've always wanted. Wish I'd done the same years ago, however, too many years later, age makes it just that for me, a dream. Thank you for bringing these vids, you make my week! 🥂🥂
You are living my dream. Can’t wait to see this adventure unfold. Wishing you all the best, love your authenticity and genuine love and care for each other.
I would highly recommend you watch the videos of the Van Wives as they have done what you are trying to do by converting a shack into a great piece of property on which to live. Thoughts are with you as always.
Check out The Indie Project, they are an English couple who bought a little barn in Portugal and redid it into a cute home. They are now redoing a larger property in Portugal that was destroyed in a wildfire-before they moved into it.
I'm visualizing your water mill all complete! I've found canned hearts of palm make good travel food. Both both meat munchers and vegans find then satisfying. Sending you lots of love and light!
So exciting!! When you explained the processes it actually made sense. That’s how it’s done in Italy too with some of their older properties that need restoration. They give a time limit to o start and complete a project. It will all work out!!! Suggestion, this first year do minimal outdoor work and mostly just focus on the mill. A year sounds like s long time, but the time will fly by!! Can’t wait for you to get started.. 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️
Just a note: The Cana plant is not Canadian Waterweed, but is Arundo donax, aka Giant cane, elephant grass, et. al. No deep roots, just rhizomes the can spread into into knotty matts over 3 feet deep. They ARE good for erosion, buy best to week wack them and put a herbicide on the cuts and come back when dried up and pull the matt up. That lush stream is beautiful. I see you building a miniature working mill/generator- play house for any little bitty ones in the future. Enjoy!
Start watching Tyler and Todd here on TH-cam. I think they would have some VERY valuable information to what you are trying to accomplish. Open hearts, and authenticity is they key. Good luck!
Wishing you so much luck! However, please be careful you don’t spent a lot of money and effort in fixing it up and someone comes along and makes it theirs, not yours. Good luck! ❤
You are talking with the right people, and the wheels are in motion. GNR friends are essential to the situation with this property. Learning Portuguese is paramount because so much gets lost in the fine details of communication. A growing community of expats and locals welcomes you with open arms and wants to see you succeed. Because of the cost of lumber and the humidity in the winter, we are framing everything with metal in Lisbon.
I wish you overcome all the obstacles you are going to face, particularly during the initial stage of your new life in Portugal. You are a great couple, with a very strong mind and I feel particularly grateful to see you around in Portugal.
Hi guys glad to see you persevering even after all the obstacles. I myself have purchased a brand new apartment in Nazare and still waiting on the deed which should have been June of last year. The bureaucracy is unbelievable. I am from Langley BC and heading out there in May and hope to be in my place by then. Wish me luck and I wish you guys much luck and happiness with this watermill. If you ever need a place to stay in Nazare let me know.
We love Nazare, how beautiful 🌊 We will keep envisioning the best possible outcome for you, and for us. May we be strong and courageous, believing in our dreams through and through 💪💛 Força!
Drew and Brittany - great new camera ! Good luck in the near future to you both. Always work the problem, never let the problem work either of you. This is my last YT comment to you both for a long while. Cheers .
Thank you both for this update! Don't loose heart my friends, though stressful, it is part of the adventure! Faith never grows unless it is stretched! I keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. 💖
Wow! Just keep putting your positive energy toward it, and leap over the hurdles (big and small) as they present themselves. Attitude is everything. Yeah, who wants a condo by the beach! I completely support water mill restoration on your little piece of paradise. And cool waterfall!!!
a ram pump set up to the river .. water for free and no need for electricity to attain the water .. perfect flow for a small water turbine and a ram pump .. you do not need solar panels when you have the use of year round water flow .
what a daunting undertaking!!!!.......but all incredible projects start with the first step. After several "steps" you'll see that it can happen. One of THE most important elements in developing a home in a foreign land is getting the local vibes (and approvals) on your side.......and it seems like you have made good strides toward this. Get to know your neighbors.....they will either be advocates or barriers. The next step is getting to know the lay of the land, what is precious (obviously the stream), and the challenges (obviously the weeds) and start planning according to the land and surrounding influences. GOOD LUCK!
So excited for you guys! Looking forward to watching your new journey! Also can’t wait for you to meet with the Newbys!! I’m sure they will have a lot of tips, encouragement and advice for you all!
At least you can start working on your home. So relieved to hear that! I thought you’d have to wait 2 years and then start the improvements! That would have been horrible. What fun you’ll have!!!
Hi guys, I’m a little confused with the can’t do the deeds until it’s built part, but you have a lawyer, so good luck. If you need help reach out. We’ve bought and sold a few times in the algarve and Cristina my wife is Portuguese so can help with the language. Just a thought!
Thank you so much, we really appreciate you offering to help ❤️ The Camara said that because there is an open project in the name of the current owner, once that project is seen through to completion (habitation license granted), then they will be able to transfer the deed into our name. It seems oddly unnecessary that they can't just transfer the deed and the project into our names, but nope, not how it works apparently. So, we will be patient and trusting of the process 🙏
The info that you guys are sharing about your journey is so inspirational and really gives us some great tips for our move to Portugal. Thanks so much for this channel. You guys are AWESOME!!!
Thought of you both as I was viewing a classic film from 1953 . a fun movie rec for you both: The Long Long Trailer, 1954. Starring Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. Btw , good luck with all the weeds. Careful with nettles and any poison oak there?
We are not from America ,but from Europe ,Malta island ,yes it is very different procedure even between Europe to Europe . We are actually planning to move to Madeira Island of Portugal ,still coming surprises while buying …😂
I have lived in Germany for 28+ years, and the bureaucracy is stupid no matter where you go. Some places more than others sadly though. Good luck, and as frustrating as it is, don't give up!
Can’t wait till we can share a video saying we finally have the keys!! Love sharing our lives with you 😘 Britt et Drew
I'm totally confused. Can you two start clearing the land? Can you create a space for the camper?
Best wishes, Cherio 🎉will come 🗝🗝🗝
One day at a time yall are so positive lov ypu both sooo much. Hugs from so cal
@@SisterSherryDoingStuff Yes, we can create space for the camper because we already own the approx 7 acres around the house/Mill.
Is there a possibility that you won't be able to get the house/mill or is it just the waiting? It may feel backward to start with the land around the house until you have the house but obviously the world isn't perfect so you detour right?
Please please assure us all that you are fully protected in writing that the deed will be transfered to you and the current owners nor the city hall can change their minds once you have done all the renovation. Wishing you both the very best❤❤
We will have an update on all of this again for you soon ❤❤😘🙏
Exactly what I am concerned about!!! Also what if the person who owns it now happened to pass away in the meantime?? God forbid that happens, but if it did.. is their any legal assurance that you will still be able to get the deed in your name??
Way too confusing
.they may need to explain a little more
@@Karatemom68x3 good point. Thus happened, though in a milder way to a friend of mind, a very complex estate that took 5 years to unwind since the person who died left no will and had a very complex set of businesses, and near the end of the period, one of the beneficiaries died leaving a set of new beneficiaries who needed to get their own lawyers involved and it added another year to the time needed to decide who got what. And that was with beneficiaries who could be contacted and were "friendly". Imagine if one was hostile, challenged the split and so on.
@@Joe-lb8qn wow Joe, 😬definitely not a position you want to find yourself in when thinking you “ own it” and put so much time, labor, and money into it 🙏🤞🙏🤞hoping and praying everything goes well for these two!!! I hate to hear that about the trouble your friends went through!!! Such a bummer!!
All this must be so frustrating! I've lived abroad many years, and don't ever underestimate the power of culture shock. It may not set in for a few months, but be aware that it's coming, and that it will pass with time. Know that there are a lot of us out here inspired by all your adventures.
Sending you lots of inspiration! and after 8 years of travel... culture shock has much milder effect 🙏
One thing that you should also be aware is that one or both of the property owners pass away, the property automatically goes to the heirs. So have your attorney draw up a contract stating that if and when that happens to the owners ( you never know) that the property is your's and the amount both parties argued is what the heirs will receive. Good luck
Yes, exactly, 1st right to acquisition 🙌💪❤️
A piece of advise, start cleaning the property you already own, because of wild fires the rules in Portugal are very strict and owning land and not cleaning it can get you a massive legal fine, besides you want it clean in case of a wildfire.
Doing it now before the summer heat starts is the best thing to do. Also any bonfires to burn the weeds and stuff, you need a permit ( again because of wildfires)
Yes, we have lots to do ahead with limited time and we will definitely be working hard to get things cleaned up
@@Mrandmrsadventure It's a big adventure :) But the cleaner it is, the safest for you and your trees and the house. Also the permit for a bonfire is not complicated, you just need to ask when you can do it, because during the summer it is forbidden, obviously, but they will know about weather conditions and the best days to do it. Clouded, slight rainy days.
Hire a couple of local men to help along with you to clear the land.
To the first project should be to start strimming all the overgrowth. Fires are really bad in summer. Just look at Indie Projects property. You don’t need that to happen at the water mill. Good luck and love to you both.
@@cathybarrett5675 I thought the same, it was heartbreaking for them.
Plus i am Portuguese, it's really problematic and heartbreaking to us all and a real worry.
If any people can and will do this it you two!!! ❤
You have a lot of love behind you! And…who else thought Drew was saying “toaster wrap” for “ tow strap”!?
For sure that is like what I kept hearing him saying “toaster app” for the first 5 or 6 times. Then it all made sense when they said to get the camper on the land… ooooh! Lol.
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My only suggestion would be work on the river as your first project. Install and water mill to turn a generator to charge your battery bank. It runs 24/7.
I can't believe how well you speak Portuguese. Your pronunciation is SPOT ON ! I guess that your French background is helping . Parabéns .🎉🎉
I live in a 1890's home that had been neglected and empty for some time. You will love polishing your rock to make a gem as we have. Looking forward to seeing your gem.👍😀
That running water will give you all the energy you will ever need to power the house inexpensively. You can look on TH-cam about how to do it!!! 😊
Sorry I still don't fully understand the situation. You have a contract and deposit on the building but you need to buy the land moving up to the building so it's not landlocked and you have room to move around?
Or you have to buy the peace of land going up to the property and the building but can't buy either because you want to use their building permit so you don't have to reapply for a new one?
You own a van that you want to live in while you renovate someone's property but you can’t use the shed on the property to store the tools in. Your lawyer saved you buy telling you not to buy the property or properties but do the renovation still because you have a contract in place that protects you which doesn't have an escape clause for the real owners and you trust the nice family owners who didn't tell you about not owning the other peace of property. 😉👍
I think they own the shed but not the door .😮😊 or they own the drive way and the current owners want them to renovate their building before the permit "expires" at midnight 🙄 🤔 😉 So who's Cinderella 🤔 in this story?
Right there with you 😮 I think they need less caffeine 😊 oh wait it's me... I'm just watching at 1.75 speed😂
@@dudateam I prefer 2x speed with captions then slow to 1.5 after the fluff.
But they do own the van, the tools, possibly the drive way, the door of the shed but not the walls.
They are using the existing work permit to save on bureaucracy so they will be able to build their mailbox but not get an address from the postmaster since they don't own the shed or mill.😊
@@rusgamerz but they are such a cute couple 💑 we will just have to wait a see
It is a complex situation. We own the land surrounding the mill as we purchased it from the neighbor. The watermill came with essentially no land around it (weird property lines). Then, we had to have the seller renew the construction permit before the permit renewal expiration date, as it was set to expire before the signing of the deed into our names. Then, after they renewed the construction license, city hall said they could not transfer the deed into our names because the open construction project was in the same of the current owner/seller. Now we must wait until the open construction project is complete before the deed can be transferred. Hope that helps explain a very complicated situation we too are still wrapping our heads around, but we feel confident in how we are all moving forward with it 🙏❤️💪
Buy yourselves a really good weed trimmer, gas powered Stihl for example. Then get steel wire lines for it not plastic. Make sure you also buy a face guard and hearing protection. It will cut through an amazing amount with ease. It will be worth every penny! I speak from experience.
So much truth to this Just wait till next weeks episode 😘
Get some portable solar electric fencing, and a few goats to help with cleaning up all of the overgrown brush. Keep moving the portable fencing to different area's, and in no time your overgrown brush will disappear, while keeping your energy on the renovation of home... The goats can be a source of meat and milk living off grid depending on what type of goats you get.
So if you can’t own till it’s done - what happens to the property if the current owner passes while your in the process. Will your rights be protected. This seems scary -risky.
Yes, this is the work that is being done behind the scenes to make sure protections are in place.
That beautiful place is so worth fighting for. Such a wild Catch22 you're caught in. So, if the owner had let the construction permit lapse you might never have gotten one? Did I understand that properly?
Then once the construction permit is back in effect the owner cannot sign the property over to you until the project is completed?
Whew. What a process you have to wade through. Will you be paying them rent while you renovate the darling water mill? (Just ignore if I'm being too nosy.)
Does that construction permit include plans and blueprints you have to follow?
My brain gets tired thinking about all this.
Bless you in your endeavors. Be safe and know you are loved.
Yes, you understood all of that perfectly! We have come to an agreement and will be sharing another update on it all soon ❤️ The construction permit was granted because we submitted architectural plans that incorporated some few minor changes that address (and fix) why the permit was pulled in the first place back in 2016. So much more to share in the coming days.. months.. years! Just feeling so called to love it all back to life ❤️💪✨!!!
Congrats on owning the land! I've been to Monchique and the area is magical. I almost bought a property there with 2 dams. Locals call it "this mountain"; even though it doesn't look like a singular, tall mountain, they are right: the whole area was once a giant volcano that got weathered down over the millennia. Monchique the town has a nice vibe, there is a thermal spa from hot springs in the area, and the air has that fresh mountain quality, and it's some of the cleanest air anywhere in Europe. Some of the plants growing on your land are probably edible: look for parsley and mint, possibly wild celery (careful to identify as there are some similar-looking dangerous relatives), and I''d definitely try out the squashes! (PS those are shamrocks / oxalis, not clover ;-) ... a lot of people confuse the two.)
You have so much knowledge!! Thank you for being so observant and loving of the place we love too! “This mountain” is quite magnificent 😘✨
I was at 13:20 before I figured out what “Toaster App” y’all were referring to! 😂 This tickled me so much.
Why can’t you store tools if you are allowed to finish the construction on the water mill building?
Can you work but need to take out tools every day?
Looks like you’ll be building a storage workshop first. Which will be good a thing to have in the long run too.
My heart and soul is with you two on this. Sending love and strength… excited to see your progress ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
First time watching you guys after watching LEAW this morning. Love you guys already. Looking forward to watching you guys renovate.
Ottavia from Australia. xxx
🥹 blessed to be their friends, and blessed to now have you to share community and our lives with ❤️ ❤️
Não trabalhem numa propriedade que ainda não é vossa, nem gastem dinheiro a reconstruirem se a propriedade não está em vosso nome. Quem tem de cumprir com os requesitos legais para poder vender é o atual proprietário. Muita atenção para não de arrependerem.
Boa sorte.
Wise counsel.
I totally agree. I am not sure that I fully understand the situation here, however, if you are saying that some works need to be made before you can buy the property, and it is you, the buyers, that will pay for the works before you buy the place, then please, please, please heed the advice from Antonio here.
Sellers must ensure that THEY legalise anything required before they sell the property. Why would they not is the question here.
In the meantime, I sincerely hope everything works out well, and that you get to own that special place.
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I don't think they apreciate comments that are not about cheerleading, like: You are doing great, How nice! You have accomplished so much!!!
Fast forward a few months and the cracks are opening up... already. More to come. Good for clicks, init?
We just bought 10 acres of forest on a mtn in Tennessee and had to go thru 911 to get an address, it was interesting. We understand that overwhelming feeling quite well, but its such a fun process if you can compartmentalize and not get overwhelmed, only 1 or 2 projects at a time. Let it unfold naturally, I have learned that the land will show you what it needs and wants. Congrats on your beautiful purchase!
You have water and sun . Attitude matters and that’s what I enjoy about your stories. I’m certain there are many points of light reflecting ‘the force’ in your direction.
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Another YT channel is Our Portuguese Homestead, where they've done amazing things over the past 4 years. Waiting for 2 years may sound like a lot, but you'll have a lot to do to get the surrounding terrain prepped, and to learn language and culture. Exciting times.
You never finished explaining about how there was an open project aspect connected to the water milll and how that means getting the deed in your name fell through... because the big bug was whizzing around and upset Brittany.. How did it go from getting the deed in your name now to having to wait until all the construction is complete? And, you can do it. You have each other's support, you have faith and patience and are ready to learn!
Hi there! Sorry, as it's a complex thing to experience and explain. The current owner needed to sign the papers to have the construction permit reinstated before the expiration deadline (which was happening before our "closing date"). But then, when our "closing date" came, the camara (city hall) said they could not transfer the deed into our names because there was an open construction project in the name of the current owner and the only time the deed could be transferred into our name is once the current construction project is seen through to completion. Hopefully that helps explain it all a bit more clearly 🙏
@@Mrandmrsadventure Thank you, a bit of a vicious circle. Will hold you in my thoughts as you work your way through this!
Seems a bit of a Catch-22.
@@Mrandmrsadventure Wow, that sounds so sketchy. I can only hope your lawyer is looking out for your best interests! Best of luck to you overcoming these massive hurdles.
@@colleenbalch328 Thank you. We appreciate all the thoughts around this ❤
Stay in your element with the earth. Your vibrations are high already and everything is ripe for you guys to make a serious impression, God Bless you, you’re friend from Alaska 🙏❤️
Can wait for you to get the keys! Regarding the land, it seems you already have some fruits/vegetables growing. I would recommend identify and protect them before you start cleaning up the land. LOVE YOUR ADVENTURES ❤
THORNY vine look like blackberries... trellis or redirect not chop down
Meus amigos falem com ingleses que ja compraram quintas abandonadas em Portugal porque eles podem ajudar muito nas vossas duvidas. Adorei vocês sao muito simpaticos nao desanimem . Que Deus os ajude muito e obrigado ❤❤
Hi Drew and Britney we too bought a piece of property that had a problem where the owners didn’t have the right documents to sell the property to us but what they did was they honoured our bid by faith and we moved right into the property and we started renovating and it took over a year but the piece of property became our own all due to pure faith in the sale I wish that for you guys that the owners could just let you move in in full faith that it’s going to be yours and they’re gonna work out their problems on paper. That’s my wish for you.❤️
thank you for sharing your beautiful wish and beautiful story... faith and good will overcomes all 💪❤️🙏
@@Mrandmrsadventure Jesus was good to us indeed :-) and I pray he is also to you all , peace and love to you both .
I kept hearing “toast wraps” instead of Tow Straps! LOL. I thought it was a Portuguese dish you were heading to enjoy! I love your new property
I discovered your channel today and subscribed. They are many British people doing as you in Portugal. Every week I discover a new channel.
Do you follow thee Indie Projects? They were van lifers but bought a barn in Portugal that they renovated and now they have a farm in Portugal that they are repairing after fires and floods. You would love Bea and Theo. You have so much in common!
When I was in the CCC we would deal with arunda, bamboo like plant, by sawing it off with a weed whacker that had a saw blade.
We would Cut them off, close to the ground and paint the top of each tube with herbicide so it just kills the bamboo.
Then after weeks go by, you tear it out/dig it up.
You can let it biodegrade but then the poison will eventually go in the ground.
Oh boy two years is going to go by fast. Sending you lots of love and prayers for smooth and easy construction and remodeling. You two are amazing. ❤🥰 Thanks for sharing.
Your words are soothing 🙏😌 2 years will go by fast 🥰😘
Plz Be sure to have the Exact Specifications as to what improvements must be done. So when you think all the work is completed in a year or two, the city officials can't say you have to do more or it wasn't done in a way they approve of and won't give you the deed. I've seen b.s. like that happen.
All the best and hope it all works out great!
Those refrigerators use ammonia absorption and a lot of times its as simple as being on an uneven surface can cause the ammonia to settle in a place that doesn't allow for proper Refrigeration. Happened all the time in our little 1974 boler trailer.
In time all will be sorted💕Make sure you're allowed to live "permanently" in your camper on the land, while constructing the water mill. Good luck and thanks for sharing! With love from Sweden💙💛
Love your outlook guys ❤ It’ll be an incredible journey, and a deeply fulfilling destination when you get there and have the home of your dreams 🙏🏼 Cheering you guys on from the North!! 🎉
We live in a small community on the Oregon coast. We did not have mail service here until we banded together a little over a year ago and had meetings with the post master several times to have a cluster box put in our area. 2 small post offices were closed around that time and the closest one to us ran out of po boxes, so some people had to drive 20 miles to rent a box and pick up mail. The cost for a cluster box was around $100 per household and that was for the cost of the whole unit of 26 boxes, of course, it stays with the house forever. Now, no more 10 mile round trips for us to the nearest town to pick up mail at a post office box. So, this place had never had service here in the past and our house was built in 1948. We are so happy for the convenience now and that we collaborated on making this happen. Kathleen
So glad you have a lawyer you trust. One step at a time you will turn this beautiful place into a diamond. Sounds like it already has a history of love put I to it.❤
My wife Bernadette & I want to thank you for your inspirational videos. We wish you all the best with your new project. Take care of each other as you usually do and take one step at a time. We look forward to watching your progress from here in Winnipeg, Canada. God bless.
So grateful to have both you and Bernadette to share this beautiful journey with 🙏❤️💪
Hey ! Came across your reply , had to reach out to you and this was the only way I knew how . We too are in Winnipeg and looking to relocate to Portugal, was wondering if you may be interested in talking and sharing research and thoughts ?
hello im portuguese and already renovate 2 houses. my father have a construction company so anything u need just ask.. be really careful with the river passing inside your future home(is a mill so the water have to cross the house) otherwise u will died with humidity milddo etcetc
Just to wish you lots of luck on the purchase of the 2° part of the property. I'm actually a lawyer in Portugal and understand exactly what you are being through, it can drive you crazy 😢 Don't give up please, my country can be defying sometimes, but it's worth it, the people are very nice (most of them😉). And for us, for sure you are going to make a difference, for the better, in that small town. Once again, all the best, and be patient, belive that everything will work out in the end. 💜💙💚💛
Oh I hope you are able to make a change of use to the property/watermill. Very challenging. Breathe
Im a late follower so im chasing each episodes. I suggest that you numbered every episodes since you started purchased your property. Like Martijn Doolards vlogs that i followed weekly since episodes #1.
Love seeing you guys breaking ground on your new homestead! That's tricky with the red tape you have to go through but I'm sure it will work out. You already have some amazing people on your side there! Loved the ending in the river! 💖
You guys are the best, thank you for the positive vibes and affirming thoughts 🤗😘🙏❤️
You are being so patient and positive. Hopefully the officials will be impressed with the people you are and move forward establishing you in Portugal.
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I hope you put a clause into your contract to be able to pull out if the glitches ie the land not owned by you in front of your property can not be resolved.
This project when completed is going to be gorgeous! Thank you for sharing your story! I look forward to following your process!
So much we will be sharing as we complete this transformation. 🏡✨
Hey, we are neighbours😀. Well we live just 5km from your town shown in this video. If you need some support, we can probably answer a few questions in person. Just drop us a line and we can figure out a way to meet up.
Great to see you in this region, full of energy and passion.
It is a small world here, so we will for sure see you around.
Andy and Cheryl
Absolutely love watching you guys, you are literally living the dream I've always wanted. Wish I'd done the same years ago, however, too many years later, age makes it just that for me, a dream.
Thank you for bringing these vids, you make my week! 🥂🥂
So grateful we can share the dream with you and you can experience it al with us!! 😘😘🥂🥂
Beautiful area! Hang in there, you'll have a beautiful oasis when it's all through!
You are living my dream. Can’t wait to see this adventure unfold. Wishing you all the best, love your authenticity and genuine love and care for each other.
Greetings from the LooseNatural farm in Andalusia Spain where we currently live through a drought and we had similar issues. Good luck.
Sending you love and hopes for an easeful future 🙏😘
I have the utmost admiration for your positivity and tenacity in making your dream come to fruition. Looking forward to every positive step you take ❤
GO guys GO, you can do it!❤❤
I would highly recommend you watch the videos of the Van Wives as they have done what you are trying to do by converting a shack into a great piece of property on which to live. Thoughts are with you as always.
Check out The Indie Project, they are an English couple who bought a little barn in Portugal and redid it into a cute home. They are now redoing a larger property in Portugal that was destroyed in a wildfire-before they moved into it.
I'm visualizing your water mill all complete! I've found canned hearts of palm make good travel food. Both both meat munchers and vegans find then satisfying. Sending you lots of love and light!
You could use a Waterwheel Paddle Wheel in the river to help reduce power
So exciting!! When you explained the processes it actually made sense. That’s how it’s done in Italy too with some of their older properties that need restoration. They give a time limit to o start and complete a project.
It will all work out!!!
Suggestion, this first year do minimal outdoor work and mostly just focus on the mill. A year sounds like s long time, but the time will fly by!!
Can’t wait for you to get started.. 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️
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Just a note: The Cana plant is not Canadian Waterweed, but is Arundo donax, aka Giant cane, elephant grass, et. al. No deep roots, just rhizomes the can spread into into knotty matts over 3 feet deep. They ARE good for erosion, buy best to week wack them and put a herbicide on the cuts and come back when dried up and pull the matt up.
That lush stream is beautiful. I see you building a miniature working mill/generator- play house for any little bitty ones in the future. Enjoy!
It is all about forging your own path. Love will sustain you along the road you are suppose to travel!
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Start watching Tyler and Todd here on TH-cam. I think they would have some VERY valuable information to what you are trying to accomplish. Open hearts, and authenticity is they key. Good luck!
No tips, but much admiration!! Love y’all!!
Wishing you so much luck! However, please be careful you don’t spent a lot of money and effort in fixing it up and someone comes along and makes it theirs, not yours. Good luck! ❤
Be strong, be courageous
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You are talking with the right people, and the wheels are in motion. GNR friends are essential to the situation with this property. Learning Portuguese is paramount because so much gets lost in the fine details of communication. A growing community of expats and locals welcomes you with open arms and wants to see you succeed.
Because of the cost of lumber and the humidity in the winter, we are framing everything with metal in Lisbon.
God wont bring you to it without bringing you through it! yall got this and God's got you! xoxoxoxoxox
🥹🙏 our thoughts exactly ❤️
If anyone can do this project, it's you two. Can't wait to see how beautiful you two make this home.
I wish you overcome all the obstacles you are going to face, particularly during the initial stage of your new life in Portugal. You are a great couple, with a very strong mind and I feel particularly grateful to see you around in Portugal.
Good explanation. You can do it with your patience and fortitude. I love this place. Love to you both
Lots of love back, We will do this ❤️
Achieving dreams are worth the nightmares. Same as, retirement is worth, working for. You got this!!!
Challenges are often overcome with baby steps ... keep at it.
Well you guys can make it happen. Stay strong.
Was interesting that you have to do the work before you can own/get deed.
Yep, definitely a different way of going about things 🙃
Bleedin fantastic Tara! And you didn’t look daft. I was smiling with pride every step of the way. Learning by doing, one project at a time! Way to go!
Hi guys glad to see you persevering even after all the obstacles. I myself have purchased a brand new apartment in Nazare and still waiting on the deed which should have been June of last year. The bureaucracy is unbelievable. I am from Langley BC and heading out there in May and hope to be in my place by then. Wish me luck and I wish you guys much luck and happiness with this watermill. If you ever need a place to stay in Nazare let me know.
We love Nazare, how beautiful 🌊 We will keep envisioning the best possible outcome for you, and for us. May we be strong and courageous, believing in our dreams through and through 💪💛 Força!
Drew and Brittany - great new camera ! Good luck in the near future to you both. Always work the problem, never let the problem work either of you.
This is my last YT comment to you both for a long while.
Cheers .
Thank you both for this update! Don't loose heart my friends, though stressful, it is part of the adventure! Faith never grows unless it is stretched! I keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. 💖
Just keep going. Very unfortunate the land challenges and property lines are so messed well. It will all come together.
Best wishes on your new Portugal property venture ❤🧡💛 believe it will all work out for you two ❤🎉🙏
Wow! Just keep putting your positive energy toward it, and leap over the hurdles (big and small) as they present themselves. Attitude is everything. Yeah, who wants a condo by the beach! I completely support water mill restoration on your little piece of paradise. And cool waterfall!!!
I think both of you can do this. What an adventure!. It will be an adventure of a lifetime to look back on.❤❤
a ram pump set up to the river .. water for free and no need for electricity to attain the water .. perfect flow for a small water turbine and a ram pump .. you do not need solar panels when you have the use of year round water flow .
You have put so much good into the universe, you will get it back 10 fold.❤
Can't wait until you guys have your full property! Keep your spirits up! I love seeing my homecountry in you videos (from Jacksonville FL)! 🤗
Sounds more stressful than you could ever imagine 🌺but I wish you all the best of luck👍
what a daunting undertaking!!!!.......but all incredible projects start with the first step. After several "steps" you'll see that it can happen. One of THE most important elements in developing a home in a foreign land is getting the local vibes (and approvals) on your side.......and it seems like you have made good strides toward this. Get to know your neighbors.....they will either be advocates or barriers. The next step is getting to know the lay of the land, what is precious (obviously the stream), and the challenges (obviously the weeds) and start planning according to the land and surrounding influences. GOOD LUCK!
So excited for you guys! Looking forward to watching your new journey! Also can’t wait for you to meet with the Newbys!! I’m sure they will have a lot of tips, encouragement and advice for you all!
Good luck on your journey. I'm so happy for you. ❤
As a portuguese citizen, I said you are very welcome
This is a new phase in your lives. So excited for you. Holding you in our hearts ❤
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At least you can start working on your home. So relieved to hear that! I thought you’d have to wait 2 years and then start the improvements! That would have been horrible. What fun you’ll have!!!
Hi. You both are where you are supposed to be. Continue the journey, and it will come to Fruition... Beautiful Blessed home. ENJOY 😉
Thank you, love 🙏❤️✨
Welcome!
Desejo do coração que os vossos sonhos se realizem❤❤
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Hi guys, I’m a little confused with the can’t do the deeds until it’s built part, but you have a lawyer, so good luck. If you need help reach out. We’ve bought and sold a few times in the algarve and Cristina my wife is Portuguese so can help with the language. Just a thought!
Thank you so much, we really appreciate you offering to help ❤️ The Camara said that because there is an open project in the name of the current owner, once that project is seen through to completion (habitation license granted), then they will be able to transfer the deed into our name. It seems oddly unnecessary that they can't just transfer the deed and the project into our names, but nope, not how it works apparently. So, we will be patient and trusting of the process 🙏
The info that you guys are sharing about your journey is so inspirational and really gives us some great tips for our move to Portugal. Thanks so much for this channel. You guys are AWESOME!!!
Thought of you both as I was viewing a classic film from 1953 . a fun movie rec
for you both: The Long Long Trailer, 1954. Starring Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz.
Btw , good luck with all the weeds.
Careful with nettles and any poison oak there?
We are not from America ,but from Europe ,Malta island ,yes it is very different procedure even between Europe to Europe . We are actually planning to move to Madeira Island of Portugal ,still coming surprises while buying …😂
I have lived in Germany for 28+ years, and the bureaucracy is stupid no matter where you go. Some places more than others sadly though. Good luck, and as frustrating as it is, don't give up!