as a veteran who served in two wars you are right on the money, im fortunate i found a wonderful woman after i served to keep me grounded..i have been with her for 30 years grandkids and a life...but i realize im fortunate....but i got out because after desert storm i realized how much politics controlled us and we were nothing to them.....this episode hit me very hard
I love Mayday's line, "We're good soldiers. We followed orders." It was an emotional moment for me and it was a restating of Crosshair's brainwashed line of "Good soldiers follow orders."
And i love that. Honest to god GOOD SOLDIERS FOLLOW ORDERS is my favorite line since clone wars s6 ep1. Never in all of my life have i heard such a powerful line in a movie/show.
That line was the clone's coping mechanism for having to comply with order 66. When mayday said "we were good soldiers, we followed orders" I saw it as him dealing with the fact that his coping mechanism was a lie
Another twist of the knife courtesy of the Empire: the Outpost was waiting 36 days for reinforcements but Crosshair noted the shuttle ride was only two hours long so help was that close the whole time. And we see at the end, the Empire called in dozens of reinforcements but only to help move boxes around.
The "Show Don't Tell" approach to this was SO GOOD... the Ice Vulture circling as Crosshair looked up, symbolizing his understanding that "My time in this life is drawing to an end..." was POWERFUL. And you are RIGHT... the COMMENTARY on decades of Veteran's care here in the US with this show is just as powerful. Just like you, I have worked with the VA for years and man- it's heavy stuff.
The best episode of the Bad batch and there have been some really good episodes but this one was just perfect. In my opinion this rivals some of the best episodes of the Clone Wars. No wonder this was Dee Bradley Baker's favourite episode of the season.
We have seen Emerie before. She is the doctor that worked with Doctor Hemlock at Mount Tantiss. She first appeared in the episode right before this with the zilo beast.
hope not. would rather him finally become disillusioned and leave the empire like the rest of the batch. though it could work that way with him to be the 1st test subject for the enhancement surgeries.
I had the absolute biggest pop off this episode. Watching Crosshair's story arc and internal struggles has been some of the best writing I've seen in the Star Wars universe, and I've been rooting for him since the first episode. So when he finally took a stand against the evils of the empire and shot that lieutenant, my fists were pumping in the air, yelling out "Yes! Good on you Crosshair!", and a smile that wouldn't go away. I fear that choice he made will have major repercussions, but no matter what unfolds, our boy finally redeemed himself and his brothers and sister would be so proud.
Continually impressed at how season 2 as picked up in tone and gravity from the end of season 1, and fits so well as a follow-up (From a viewer perspective) to Andor. The production team here knocked it out of the park with the visuals and music. And the writers were bold enough to bench the main Bad Batch to give Crosshairs the spotlight Biggest key for me is that Crosshairs was not turned by single speech or gesture. His Bad Batch brothers actually failed to convince him to turn from the Empire. Only months of GRIND by the empire’s evil, viewed up close in person, turned Crosshairs. That is EARNED character development. Also notably absent: the force, cute gimmicks, lightsabers, or Jedi. With Filoni assuming more responsibilities in the franchise with his promotion a couple years ago, the people who shoulder lore responsibility and definitely deserve recognition are do-producer Jennifer Corbett and story editor Matt Michnovetz, both of whom worked on other Star Wars animated properties and are getting time to shine
As a veteran who served 2011 during operation enduring freedom. My company delta Co 1-294th inf reg. We were stationed at camp stone in Afghanistan n that sucked a whole lot. Coming home it was hard to get back to my civilian life. I'm very grateful for the VA program where I'm from. They help us Vets get the care we need.
A rotation is the local day/night cycle. So unless Barton-4 rotates really fast or slow, the Outpost had been waiting just over a month for their relief forces to show up.
He says that he expected them 36 rotations ago, and later that he's been on the outpost for over a year. So he was supposed to be relieved 36 days ago but the Empire was late.
What is more symbolic in this is the silhouette of the Ice Vulture looks like the Marauder !!!!!!!!!!!! So, Crosshair was reminded of where he comes from !!!!!!!!!!!
It looked nothing like the Marauder. The symbolism was death (vultures are always a symbol of death). Crosshair was literally being circled by death, representing his doomed position in the empire and in that moment he fully realized it.
FLG: "I want him to die a horrible death." Crosshair: "Say less." This was my favourite episode of the series so far, though it can't really stand on its own as there was some serious progression and world building to get to this point. I'm glad you treat veterans with actual kindness instead of platitudes.
I loved this episode. The part when the avalanche buried Crosshair, then he survived seems to me at least like Crosshair's rebirth. After the avalanche scene, he has a new attitude and perspective.
Ditto on the music this season. Kevin Kiner is killing it, both with this season and with the score for Tales of the Jedi. The synth stuff used on the darker episodes is so good for setting the mood and tone.
I think the long pause he had before saying his name was because the clones was not supposed to have names. He was his call-sign for so long and crosshair only in the presence of other clones.
Definitely my favorite episode. Seeing crosshair show compassion for mayday pulled on my heartstrings. Im a veteran, and even though I didn't see any action, i can relate with the situation they were in. Being stationed overseas for years at a time sucks. Crosshairs redemption begins.
This is a 2nd favorite episode, ever! Full-Blown 10/10!🔥 Mayday is so awesome character, he’s like Thorin Oakenshield & Sub-Zero/Kuai Liang mixed between. #Clonesforlife🤍🖤
...and this is the KIDS show... I truly appreciate that there are no punches pulled in these stories. These are Star WARS tales, after all - and war tends to lead to darkness, especially when you are following the soldiers. I wish more people appreciated animation, because there is some truly brilliant work going on here and it's sad to think how many are missing out because of a bias against 'kids stuff'.
17:52 My LITERAL reaction when Crosshair shot the Lieutenant - “YESSSSS!!!! THATS WHAT YOU GET!!! THATS WHAT YOU F***ING GET YOU DAMN BASTARD!!!” I do feel bad for Crosshair though. He lost a friend there and then collapses from the cold or fatigue or something then he gets experimented on by a psycho doctor and is now suffering from PTSD. All because of Nolan. 😢😢
When you hear someone say I’ve got your six that is an armed forces term for I’ve got your back using the hands of a clock you are 12 o’clock and your partner has your 6 o’clock. Of course, I always love your reactions. I knew this one would touch your heart. By the way, when I received my medical discharge from the military, I was treated literally as defective equipment.
"Mayday" is an apt name for the Clone in this episode. Mayday asked for help (like one does when using the callsign Mayday), but any help he got was late or too late.
Although Nolan was, indeed, a waste of organic tissue; the Clone troopers weren't actually worse off than him in terms of dealing with the cold. The black one-piece undergarment beneath both the clone and Stormtrooper armor is a temperature adjusting "body glove" that heats and cools the trooper's body as needed in various environments to mostly maintain a stable tolerable temperature. They have to have that, or the conditions in their armor would quickly make them combat ineffective.
My opinion is that Crosshair's struggles are in acknowledgment of the struggles that actual snipers and drone pilots go through. The suicide rate is so very high because they are required to act as judge, jury, and executioner based solely on orders without any actual evidence or justification. There's a need to have faith in the legitimacy of those orders, and therefore, the legitimacy and authority of the organizations and leaders that they serve. Crosshair killing that lieutenant when he knew that he'd be unable to defend himself against the remaining troopers was essentially an act of suicide, just without having to pull the trigger himself. He even stood up, wanting to die standing on his own two feet, but couldn't maintain the necessary strength.
6:08 ... applause for your magnificent eye roll!! btw... a rotation is equal to a day. I love how Mayday asks Crosshair his name and what unit he served with and we don't get a reaction out of him. Surely their reputation speaks for themselves but he took it in stride. So Crosshair ended up where the group will be heading to. I don't think that they'll regroup together right away but maybe shortly after. Before taking out the Lieutenant, I would have loved to seen him take out the vulture. See you for the next episode. Take care, Angela!!
The term "rotation" is a reference to the amount of time it takes the planet (or moon) you're on to rotate once on its axis -- which on Earth, we call a "day". But given the differences in rotation period for different planets, a "day" in one place might be 10 hours, and in others it might be 30. So "36 rotations" could be a very long time. The term "on your six" properly means "directly behind you", although the term is used less "properly" in actual practice -- just "behind you" is close enough. It's usually not used to refer to friendlies providing you cover, but hostiles in a position to take you out. Still, we understood you.
The music it’s wonderful 🎉 and I could feel from the beginning that this episode would we sadness. This is easily one of the best episodes of this show
Rotations could be different on every planet, I believe it's another way of saying an orbit around their star (day/night cycle ). On earth, it's 24 hours, and Mars is closer to 29. Sounds like Mayday, and his men could have been left there 36 days alone.
This episode was definitely a gut wrenched and continued the emotional highs that has been in Star Wars animation! Also as a veteran I understand Crosshair and Maydays feelings on incompetent officers.
Crosshairs words about being a soldier of the empire came back around. He's very interesting because his specialty is a sniper, he views things from a distance in battle and he views ppl and the rest of the world that same way. Of course the clone commander in that condition was named Mayday. Frostbite has gotta be a clone name too lol. As far as Cid goes I think she cares for the squad, but she's got a business to run in a galaxy run by tyrants and that may come first.
First time this season I've felt genuinely emotional - went all Last Of Us introducing a cool, likable new character in Mayday only to take them away the same episode. Glad Crosshair is seeing the Empire for what it is..just in time to be taken prisoner and have force knows what done to him.
The way you talk about ROTS and how sad it can be, have you ever watched a fan edit that adds the end on Clone Wars and the start of Bad Batch to the film? It’s like a 4 hour runtime but totally worth it. Highly recommend
As a veteran myself the story of the clones in this season hits hard. Before i got discharged from the military I attended a week long course called TAPS. 4 days of learning how to write a resume and then an hour presentation on our benefits the final day. At the beginning when the clones are asking the imperal and she answers with a dismissive remark, it eminded me of the VA and how every answer they give to a question is "go online to our website" or "go fill out an application first". My final day the military ended with them discharging me and basically leaving me to fend for myself. Luckily I had friends and family to help. Without them I don't know what I would have done... and sadly that's the case for some. They can easily end up homeless. For two of my buddies I served with it ended in suicide... sorry for the rant this season had brought up alot of bad memories, but I'm glad it's getting attention. We need to be more aware of how we treat those who serve and die for our country. Sadly though those who need to see it will dismiss it because it's a cartoon.
Per one of your questions, in "Legends" (the old Expanded Universe), clones were not sterile and could have children. I'm not sure that it's been addressed in the current canon. I would think, and hope, they can.
Crosshair likely delayed telling Mayday his name because, until now, Crosshair has always held a very supremacist attitude towards regular clones. They were trash. He was an elite. Cody was likely the only exception. Now that Crosshair has been sufficiently "put in his place" by the empire, he's thinking a bit differently.
On your question of dark troopers.... research what "Dark trooper phase 0" Are. this is a theory for Crosshair, and the moment i realized what a phase 0 dark trooper was i felt terrified for Crosshair. The Empire doesn't just see the clones as expendable or a waste, they see them as a burden. I'll always remember the fallen, remember the clones who sacrificed for all of us. Dark troopers have always been droids, phase 1, 2 and 3. Phase 3 are the ones we saw in mandalorian, in the end of season 2. But i never really put thought into how they came to be.. once you realize what a phase 0 is.. yeah... thats all i'll say.
I can see how that was confusing, I remembered her, but not her name. I went back and watch the previous episode and they totally say her name. I just must’ve missed it.
@@funnylilgalreacts hi funny girl Cody did not die because of not following orders he left the empire rampart said it appears he went AWOL absent without leave it that means he abandoned his post and nobody knows where he is
@@funnylilgalreacts and also without the chip chrosshair went from killing kids to telling his men shoot omega to saving her and her squad and keeping their survival secret he has genuine respect for commander Cody and Sounded disappointed when he left also did not shoot howser when with the chip he would of
@@funnylilgalreacts when you analyze the chuchi episode and when rex talked to ashoka war is all the clones know it's natural they were bread for couppled with his words to the bad batch in the season 1 finale they are meant for more then drifting thru the galaxy cause as of now thier is know rebel alliance no other army
When the batch went on the mission with the 501st crosshair told rex he left echo for dead at the citadel and he would of did it to cause he is a reg and he said the same thing in this episode but did not do it
I cried so much at the end of this episode. First, Mayday died, and then Crosshair had a death of sorts if the Empire is going to turn him into a death trooper or something like that. I spoke about this in my reaction, how Crosshair finally used his free will to turn against the Empire, and now it seems that the Empire will completely remove his free will and prevent him from making that choice. It'll be such a dark, twisted tragedy if the rest of Clone Force 99 finds him and sees that none of the Crosshair they've known remains.😥 I really hope that's not what happens. I love the symbolism of the ice vulture and how Crosshair kept looking up at it while he was wrestling with his decision. It became clear to him that he was going to die anyway, sooner or later, and the Empire didn't care at all. Might as well frag the lieutenant before he goes down. Also, when Crosshair saw all those ships flying overhead, it probably occurred to him that just one of them could've taken out the raiders' compound. But instead, the asshole CO sent two "disposable" clones to do it. Seeing Crosshair stand up and kill him made me so happy. But that happiness quickly turned into tears.
Straight from the off, we all want Lieutenant Nolan killed in the most brutal way. His utter disregard for clones gets our hackles up! So we meet Commander Mayday - Dee Bradley Baker's (and mine also) favourite new clone. Straight from the off you can tell he's been there and seen it all, and imbues authority and confidence in his command, unlike Lt. Nolan. Mayday technically outranks Nolan by at least two ranks, but with the clones now getting phased out he doesn't have any authority under the Empire, and so is left here on this iceball along with other clones. I love the introductory scene between Mayday and Crosshair. When Mayday gives his name and expects Crosshair to tell him his, he does, but after a long pause. Clones don't have names under the Empire, he's CT-9904 and has gone under that for a while now. When Mayday is fixing the mine and speaks with Crosshair about his former squad, and Crosshair mentions "they're gone...", there is almost a tinge of sadness in that line delivery. His brothers are on another path, and he is here... Best episode of the show, period. When Crosshair lifts up Mayday to carry him, it breaks me. All this time, from Clone Wars, he's been saying he'll leave behind his brothers; but in Mayday he saw not a reg, but himself, a grumpy but pragmatic clone hero, a good soldier who followed orders, and instead of dying like the hero he was, froze to death protecting equipment for his replacements, all for a regime that doesn't care and classes him as an expendable obsolete item. Second episode of TCW : "we are clones sir, we are meant to be expendable" | Plo Koon : "not, to me". This is the clones reward for ridding the galaxy of the Jedi and winning the war... They get back to the base and Nolan refuses Mayday help. After he passes and Nolan's message about all the clones being expendable, the message gets through to Crosshair. He looks up at the vulture overhead. Its coming for him, its coming for all clones now. Ahsoka's bird, Morai is a guardian angel for her and helps her; my interpretation is this thing is the opposite, its an omen of all the clones fates. Crosshair finally snaps and kills Nolan; he'll be a part of this no longer, his brothers were right and he finally sees this. Then when Crosshair now sees the error of his ways, the Empire doesn't despose him but brings him back in, to do god knows what nefarious thing to him, and sink him further into hell. This is his punishment for all the wrong decisions he's made. What an episode, its just so bleak, there is no hope at all here.
This episode more than any other shows just how horrible the Empire is towards the clones. The destruction of Tipoca city was awful, but it was impersonal. This episode, the lieutenant's disdain was personal.
As a veteran I have really appreciated Filoni digging into and showing how little any society cares about soldiers or vets. The nitty details they got in this and so many other arcs like Umbara has been terrific. Mayday calling the lieutenant by his rank in that voice was exactly how a vet would do with an officer who was crap. Crosshairs arc has been exactly right imo, because the guys I knew who were snipers were absolutely the last guys to put down the rifle. Mayday's rigging the mine, and then saving Cross from the avalanche was perfect way to show how vets will act in combat for guys they just met cause they wear the same uniform. I think the defector clone Rex met had kids?
Coruscant solar cycle was 368 days long with a day consisting of 24 standard hours. Galactic time was calculated off it. So a rotation is a regular 24 hours or 1 day. 36 days in a combat location without re-supply is a long time.
Probably the best bad batch episode there is. It's actually one of my favourite star wars episodes period. It was so good and full of emotion and darkness. It's the sort of thing I enjoy in TV and especially star wars. I'm not someone who cries in TV but I was close in this episode
@funnylilgalreacts I guess Crosshair could become the first Phase 0 Darktrooper... considering he is in Mount Tantis now... Their basicly clones that were to wounded or to old to keep fighting having limps replaced with cybernetics and beeing enclosed in their new armor. The process was quite painful and dangerous also many of these clones got trauma from this and fighting machines for all their lives to than become themselves one... its a fate possibly worse than death for many of them.
I love this episode, the rest of the Bad Batch is trying to find a new way to live while Crosshair is still trying to justify everything he has done by staying in the Empire. Watching Crosshair keep Mayday warm in the snow and carrying him back to the base was heart breaking. Mayday talking about following orders was just as heart breaking considering he probably ordered the death of a Jedi or Padawan maybe even killed them himself. I really hope Crosshair gets to have a happy ending.
Even in my hotel room on holiday I'm watching this video, I would have preferred my TV at home ,but this Oppo phone has 4K HD playback so your video still looked great , crystal clear and the sound of your voice was also crystal clear 👍👏👏👏
I don't have much to add. This was a good episode. I think Crosshair was pushed to his limit with the utter contempt the former imperial lieutenant displayed. (I don't think he could have been any more insufferable.) I'm wondering if they're going to use Crosshair as bait for Omega. I guess we'll see. I'm on board for wherever the seasonal winds will take us. Thanks for the watch! I'll look forward to the next one.
The clones value loyalty and the Empire has no sense of loyalty. Probably another reason why Palpatine wanted to replace them. Throughout Bad Batch, Crosshair has been loyal to the Empire with those like Rampart and Nolan treating him like a pawn and with disdain. Throughout Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch, Dee Bradley Baker has done a phenomenal job bringing life to the clones.
Finally Crosshair woke up this is what I didn't get about the empire they train the troopers and the imperials to compete with each other whereas the clones were loyal to each other which improved their performance
Probably the heaviest episode of the series. Brings up memories of the story arc with General Krell from Clone Wars, at least to a certain degree in terms of clone mistreatment.
Was so hoping for a crosshair redemption and he would return to the Bad Batch. IDK though. I sense those scientist have something sinister in store with him. Maybe use him in some way to get Omega bc that one doctor wants to find her to use as leverage against Nala Se
Because the ones with the sane and basically moral members of the Batch don't usually involve the "heros" committing acts that would be "real world" war crimes. And the "fans" seem to think those are the only episodes worth watching. Which probably says more about those "fans" than it does about the actual quality of the episodes.
@@kenle2 For me, it is the squad that pose problem. You have the leader with a heart of gold, the smart but troublesome kid, the dumb big guy and the overly intellectual nerd. All of them in the usual mess of the week. I could have just described the Characters of Parker Lewis Can't Lose Give them more than 2D personnality, make them evolve. In contrast this season we had Crosshair and Cody having real growth.
@@vincentvoillot6365 So their characters have to "evolve" towards ... what? Becoming another cynical, depressing buch of "antiheros"? Yeah, because television hasn't given us dozens of those in live action over the past few years. Look, we aren't going to agree here. You think you are being "adult" and I think swashbuckling action and a little blend of "romantic" melodrama is what Star Wars has had as its core for decades -and what made me a fan from the original 1977 version on. You've got your opinion. I have mine. The difference is that not pretending I'm intellectually superior because of my opinion and too many "Andor is EVERYTHING" types are doing that in just about every Star Wars show comment section. After a few months, it just gets tiresome.
@@kenle2 Please let's keep civil. It is just my opinion. Depth is not just melodrama, adult, gory actions or whatevers. And growth don't alway come with trauma, it come with experience. Wrecker could have moments to shine beyond being the muscle and being afraid of height (so he is Baracus in the A-team). Look at Grog in Vox Machina, Teal'C in SG1, Ka D'Argo in Farscape, Zeb in Rebels. Hunter don't have to be so "intense" and "broody" 24/24, would kill him to light up or crack a joke. Melinda May in AOS knew when to be funny. It is not Resistance bad, but it is not Rebels or Clone Wars. Not being intellectual, just watched too much TV in the last 40 years.
as a veteran who served in two wars you are right on the money, im fortunate i found a wonderful woman after i served to keep me grounded..i have been with her for 30 years grandkids and a life...but i realize im fortunate....but i got out because after desert storm i realized how much politics controlled us and we were nothing to them.....this episode hit me very hard
I love Mayday's line, "We're good soldiers. We followed orders." It was an emotional moment for me and it was a restating of Crosshair's brainwashed line of "Good soldiers follow orders."
You left out the most important part of that quote:
"... And for what?"
But Crosshair didn’t follow orders. He’s a good soldier but not good enough for the Empire.
And i love that. Honest to god GOOD SOLDIERS FOLLOW ORDERS is my favorite line since clone wars s6 ep1. Never in all of my life have i heard such a powerful line in a movie/show.
That line was the clone's coping mechanism for having to comply with order 66. When mayday said "we were good soldiers, we followed orders" I saw it as him dealing with the fact that his coping mechanism was a lie
Another twist of the knife courtesy of the Empire: the Outpost was waiting 36 days for reinforcements but Crosshair noted the shuttle ride was only two hours long so help was that close the whole time. And we see at the end, the Empire called in dozens of reinforcements but only to help move boxes around.
The vulture flyover at the end was genius. Represents the empire just feeding off their dead bodies.
I hope they show us the designs for both the raiders and the vulture
The "Show Don't Tell" approach to this was SO GOOD... the Ice Vulture circling as Crosshair looked up, symbolizing his understanding that "My time in this life is drawing to an end..." was POWERFUL.
And you are RIGHT... the COMMENTARY on decades of Veteran's care here in the US with this show is just as powerful. Just like you, I have worked with the VA for years and man- it's heavy stuff.
Dee Bradley Baker said this was his favorite episode and I can see why 😮💨
I am still impressed by the quality writing in this show, especially with a bunch of "identical" characters.
That’s one thing I love about all the clones they are supposed to be identical yet they are very different
The best episode of the Bad batch and there have been some really good episodes but this one was just perfect. In my opinion this rivals some of the best episodes of the Clone Wars. No wonder this was Dee Bradley Baker's favourite episode of the season.
So awesome your care and empathy for veterans. Love your kind heart and your channel.
We have seen Emerie before. She is the doctor that worked with Doctor Hemlock at Mount Tantiss. She first appeared in the episode right before this with the zilo beast.
I'm sensing Crosshairs will become the first Death Trooper.
That or a dark trooper
Which regardless it won’t be good thing.....in fact it will be pretty terrifying for him to be a dark trooper
hope not. would rather him finally become disillusioned and leave the empire like the rest of the batch. though it could work that way with him to be the 1st test subject for the enhancement surgeries.
I had the absolute biggest pop off this episode. Watching Crosshair's story arc and internal struggles has been some of the best writing I've seen in the Star Wars universe, and I've been rooting for him since the first episode. So when he finally took a stand against the evils of the empire and shot that lieutenant, my fists were pumping in the air, yelling out "Yes! Good on you Crosshair!", and a smile that wouldn't go away. I fear that choice he made will have major repercussions, but no matter what unfolds, our boy finally redeemed himself and his brothers and sister would be so proud.
Continually impressed at how season 2 as picked up in tone and gravity from the end of season 1, and fits so well as a follow-up (From a viewer perspective) to Andor. The production team here knocked it out of the park with the visuals and music. And the writers were bold enough to bench the main Bad Batch to give Crosshairs the spotlight
Biggest key for me is that Crosshairs was not turned by single speech or gesture. His Bad Batch brothers actually failed to convince him to turn from the Empire. Only months of GRIND by the empire’s evil, viewed up close in person, turned Crosshairs. That is EARNED character development.
Also notably absent: the force, cute gimmicks, lightsabers, or Jedi.
With Filoni assuming more responsibilities in the franchise with his promotion a couple years ago, the people who shoulder lore responsibility and definitely deserve recognition are do-producer Jennifer Corbett and story editor Matt Michnovetz, both of whom worked on other Star Wars animated properties and are getting time to shine
Cross hair let Mayday use his sniper rifle as a crutch; he cared about Mayday'# fate enough to trash his weapon.
As a veteran who served 2011 during operation enduring freedom. My company delta Co 1-294th inf reg. We were stationed at camp stone in Afghanistan n that sucked a whole lot. Coming home it was hard to get back to my civilian life. I'm very grateful for the VA program where I'm from. They help us Vets get the care we need.
A rotation is the local day/night cycle. So unless Barton-4 rotates really fast or slow, the Outpost had been waiting just over a month for their relief forces to show up.
He says that he expected them 36 rotations ago, and later that he's been on the outpost for over a year. So he was supposed to be relieved 36 days ago but the Empire was late.
What is more symbolic in this is the silhouette of the Ice Vulture looks like the Marauder !!!!!!!!!!!! So, Crosshair was reminded of where he comes from !!!!!!!!!!!
It looked nothing like the Marauder. The symbolism was death (vultures are always a symbol of death). Crosshair was literally being circled by death, representing his doomed position in the empire and in that moment he fully realized it.
FLG: "I want him to die a horrible death."
Crosshair: "Say less."
This was my favourite episode of the series so far, though it can't really stand on its own as there was some serious progression and world building to get to this point. I'm glad you treat veterans with actual kindness instead of platitudes.
I loved this episode. The part when the avalanche buried Crosshair, then he survived seems to me at least like Crosshair's rebirth. After the avalanche scene, he has a new attitude and perspective.
Ditto on the music this season. Kevin Kiner is killing it, both with this season and with the score for Tales of the Jedi. The synth stuff used on the darker episodes is so good for setting the mood and tone.
I think the long pause he had before saying his name was because the clones was not supposed to have names.
He was his call-sign for so long and crosshair only in the presence of other clones.
Definitely my favorite episode. Seeing crosshair show compassion for mayday pulled on my heartstrings. Im a veteran, and even though I didn't see any action, i can relate with the situation they were in. Being stationed overseas for years at a time sucks. Crosshairs redemption begins.
This is a 2nd favorite episode, ever! Full-Blown 10/10!🔥
Mayday is so awesome character, he’s like Thorin Oakenshield & Sub-Zero/Kuai Liang mixed between.
#Clonesforlife🤍🖤
...and this is the KIDS show... I truly appreciate that there are no punches pulled in these stories. These are Star WARS tales, after all - and war tends to lead to darkness, especially when you are following the soldiers. I wish more people appreciated animation, because there is some truly brilliant work going on here and it's sad to think how many are missing out because of a bias against 'kids stuff'.
I love the animation of these shows , it’s one of my favorite things
17:52 My LITERAL reaction when Crosshair shot the Lieutenant - “YESSSSS!!!! THATS WHAT YOU GET!!! THATS WHAT YOU F***ING GET YOU DAMN BASTARD!!!” I do feel bad for Crosshair though. He lost a friend there and then collapses from the cold or fatigue or something then he gets experimented on by a psycho doctor and is now suffering from PTSD. All because of Nolan. 😢😢
@21:50
“ someone slap this man!”
Seonds later …
( slapping face noise) 🙄
I died 💀😂😂💀💀
16:23 this was almost the same music as in the first episode of Tales of the Jedi with Dooku :(
Crosshair episodes seem to always be bangers!
I can't not imagine the strength of fortitude it takes to indure all that pain to save a strangers life that is the showing of a hero a man with heart
In negative degree weather
When you hear someone say I’ve got your six that is an armed forces term for I’ve got your back using the hands of a clock you are 12 o’clock and your partner has your 6 o’clock. Of course, I always love your reactions. I knew this one would touch your heart.
By the way, when I received my medical discharge from the military, I was treated literally as defective equipment.
You deserved better 🖤
@@funnylilgalreacts Thank you so very kindly I appreciate your kind words. I know too people this has happened to which is so sad.
A rotation is a complete day+night cycle, the time it takes for whatever planet they're on to rotate on its axis.
So, a day. 🙂
"Mayday" is an apt name for the Clone in this episode. Mayday asked for help (like one does when using the callsign Mayday), but any help he got was late or too late.
Although Nolan was, indeed, a waste of organic tissue; the Clone troopers weren't actually worse off than him in terms of dealing with the cold.
The black one-piece undergarment beneath both the clone and Stormtrooper armor is a temperature adjusting "body glove" that heats and cools the trooper's body as needed in various environments to mostly maintain a stable tolerable temperature.
They have to have that, or the conditions in their armor would quickly make them combat ineffective.
Great episode!! You did say it right. "6" Basiclly means " Got your back (6)" Also love how Crosshair, just shot him in the front and not in the back.
My opinion is that Crosshair's struggles are in acknowledgment of the struggles that actual snipers and drone pilots go through. The suicide rate is so very high because they are required to act as judge, jury, and executioner based solely on orders without any actual evidence or justification. There's a need to have faith in the legitimacy of those orders, and therefore, the legitimacy and authority of the organizations and leaders that they serve. Crosshair killing that lieutenant when he knew that he'd be unable to defend himself against the remaining troopers was essentially an act of suicide, just without having to pull the trigger himself. He even stood up, wanting to die standing on his own two feet, but couldn't maintain the necessary strength.
6:08 ... applause for your magnificent eye roll!! btw... a rotation is equal to a day.
I love how Mayday asks Crosshair his name and what unit he served with and we don't get a reaction out of him. Surely their reputation speaks for themselves but he took it in stride.
So Crosshair ended up where the group will be heading to. I don't think that they'll regroup together right away but maybe shortly after.
Before taking out the Lieutenant, I would have loved to seen him take out the vulture.
See you for the next episode.
Take care, Angela!!
Always remember 12 o'clock is your front and six is behind you... thus I got your six....I got your back
I'm 90% sure crosshair said that he had his chip removed in the first season near the end.
17:42 Crosshair did the Clones and the Galactic Empire a favor. That guy was sh1t as a lieutenant.
The term "rotation" is a reference to the amount of time it takes the planet (or moon) you're on to rotate once on its axis -- which on Earth, we call a "day". But given the differences in rotation period for different planets, a "day" in one place might be 10 hours, and in others it might be 30. So "36 rotations" could be a very long time.
The term "on your six" properly means "directly behind you", although the term is used less "properly" in actual practice -- just "behind you" is close enough. It's usually not used to refer to friendlies providing you cover, but hostiles in a position to take you out. Still, we understood you.
The music it’s wonderful 🎉 and I could feel from the beginning that this episode would we sadness. This is easily one of the best episodes of this show
The eye roll you give the Imperial officer was everything ❤❤❤❤
Rotations could be different on every planet, I believe it's another way of saying an orbit around their star (day/night cycle ). On earth, it's 24 hours, and Mars is closer to 29. Sounds like Mayday, and his men could have been left there 36 days alone.
This episode was definitely a gut wrenched and continued the emotional highs that has been in Star Wars animation!
Also as a veteran I understand Crosshair and Maydays feelings on incompetent officers.
Crosshairs words about being a soldier of the empire came back around. He's very interesting because his specialty is a sniper, he views things from a distance in battle and he views ppl and the rest of the world that same way. Of course the clone commander in that condition was named Mayday. Frostbite has gotta be a clone name too lol. As far as Cid goes I think she cares for the squad, but she's got a business to run in a galaxy run by tyrants and that may come first.
First time this season I've felt genuinely emotional - went all Last Of Us introducing a cool, likable new character in Mayday only to take them away the same episode.
Glad Crosshair is seeing the Empire for what it is..just in time to be taken prisoner and have force knows what done to him.
The way you talk about ROTS and how sad it can be, have you ever watched a fan edit that adds the end on Clone Wars and the start of Bad Batch to the film? It’s like a 4 hour runtime but totally worth it. Highly recommend
"No point in carrying dead wait"
As a veteran myself the story of the clones in this season hits hard. Before i got discharged from the military I attended a week long course called TAPS. 4 days of learning how to write a resume and then an hour presentation on our benefits the final day. At the beginning when the clones are asking the imperal and she answers with a dismissive remark, it eminded me of the VA and how every answer they give to a question is "go online to our website" or "go fill out an application first". My final day the military ended with them discharging me and basically leaving me to fend for myself. Luckily I had friends and family to help. Without them I don't know what I would have done... and sadly that's the case for some. They can easily end up homeless. For two of my buddies I served with it ended in suicide... sorry for the rant this season had brought up alot of bad memories, but I'm glad it's getting attention. We need to be more aware of how we treat those who serve and die for our country. Sadly though those who need to see it will dismiss it because it's a cartoon.
Per one of your questions, in "Legends" (the old Expanded Universe), clones were not sterile and could have children. I'm not sure that it's been addressed in the current canon. I would think, and hope, they can.
Crosshair likely delayed telling Mayday his name because, until now, Crosshair has always held a very supremacist attitude towards regular clones. They were trash. He was an elite. Cody was likely the only exception. Now that Crosshair has been sufficiently "put in his place" by the empire, he's thinking a bit differently.
On your question of dark troopers.... research what "Dark trooper phase 0" Are. this is a theory for Crosshair, and the moment i realized what a phase 0 dark trooper was i felt terrified for Crosshair. The Empire doesn't just see the clones as expendable or a waste, they see them as a burden. I'll always remember the fallen, remember the clones who sacrificed for all of us.
Dark troopers have always been droids, phase 1, 2 and 3. Phase 3 are the ones we saw in mandalorian, in the end of season 2. But i never really put thought into how they came to be.. once you realize what a phase 0 is.. yeah... thats all i'll say.
We met her at the end of the last episode, she's the doctors assistant.
I can see how that was confusing, I remembered her, but not her name. I went back and watch the previous episode and they totally say her name. I just must’ve missed it.
@@funnylilgalreacts hi funny girl Cody did not die because of not following orders he left the empire rampart said it appears he went AWOL absent without leave it that means he abandoned his post and nobody knows where he is
@@funnylilgalreacts and also without the chip chrosshair went from killing kids to telling his men shoot omega to saving her and her squad and keeping their survival secret he has genuine respect for commander Cody and
Sounded disappointed when he left also did not shoot howser when with the chip he would of
@@funnylilgalreacts when you analyze the chuchi episode and when rex talked to ashoka war is all the clones know it's natural they were bread for couppled with his words to the bad batch in the season 1 finale they are meant for more then drifting thru the galaxy cause as of now thier is know rebel alliance no other army
When the batch went on the mission with the 501st crosshair told rex he left echo for dead at the citadel and he would of did it to cause he is a reg and he said the same thing in this episode but did not do it
one would think that officer would want "used" troops, them being combat vets rather than Stormtroopers who are raw rookies
I’d feel so much safer with veteran clones than with the new storm troopers that’s for damn sure
I cried so much at the end of this episode. First, Mayday died, and then Crosshair had a death of sorts if the Empire is going to turn him into a death trooper or something like that. I spoke about this in my reaction, how Crosshair finally used his free will to turn against the Empire, and now it seems that the Empire will completely remove his free will and prevent him from making that choice. It'll be such a dark, twisted tragedy if the rest of Clone Force 99 finds him and sees that none of the Crosshair they've known remains.😥 I really hope that's not what happens.
I love the symbolism of the ice vulture and how Crosshair kept looking up at it while he was wrestling with his decision. It became clear to him that he was going to die anyway, sooner or later, and the Empire didn't care at all. Might as well frag the lieutenant before he goes down.
Also, when Crosshair saw all those ships flying overhead, it probably occurred to him that just one of them could've taken out the raiders' compound. But instead, the asshole CO sent two "disposable" clones to do it. Seeing Crosshair stand up and kill him made me so happy. But that happiness quickly turned into tears.
Nolan the Imperial officer gets fragged
Straight from the off, we all want Lieutenant Nolan killed in the most brutal way. His utter disregard for clones gets our hackles up!
So we meet Commander Mayday - Dee Bradley Baker's (and mine also) favourite new clone. Straight from the off you can tell he's been there and seen it all, and imbues authority and confidence in his command, unlike Lt. Nolan. Mayday technically outranks Nolan by at least two ranks, but with the clones now getting phased out he doesn't have any authority under the Empire, and so is left here on this iceball along with other clones.
I love the introductory scene between Mayday and Crosshair. When Mayday gives his name and expects Crosshair to tell him his, he does, but after a long pause. Clones don't have names under the Empire, he's CT-9904 and has gone under that for a while now.
When Mayday is fixing the mine and speaks with Crosshair about his former squad, and Crosshair mentions "they're gone...", there is almost a tinge of sadness in that line delivery. His brothers are on another path, and he is here...
Best episode of the show, period. When Crosshair lifts up Mayday to carry him, it breaks me. All this time, from Clone Wars, he's been saying he'll leave behind his brothers; but in Mayday he saw not a reg, but himself, a grumpy but pragmatic clone hero, a good soldier who followed orders, and instead of dying like the hero he was, froze to death protecting equipment for his replacements, all for a regime that doesn't care and classes him as an expendable obsolete item.
Second episode of TCW : "we are clones sir, we are meant to be expendable" | Plo Koon : "not, to me". This is the clones reward for ridding the galaxy of the Jedi and winning the war...
They get back to the base and Nolan refuses Mayday help. After he passes and Nolan's message about all the clones being expendable, the message gets through to Crosshair. He looks up at the vulture overhead. Its coming for him, its coming for all clones now. Ahsoka's bird, Morai is a guardian angel for her and helps her; my interpretation is this thing is the opposite, its an omen of all the clones fates. Crosshair finally snaps and kills Nolan; he'll be a part of this no longer, his brothers were right and he finally sees this.
Then when Crosshair now sees the error of his ways, the Empire doesn't despose him but brings him back in, to do god knows what nefarious thing to him, and sink him further into hell. This is his punishment for all the wrong decisions he's made.
What an episode, its just so bleak, there is no hope at all here.
This episode more than any other shows just how horrible the Empire is towards the clones. The destruction of Tipoca city was awful, but it was impersonal. This episode, the lieutenant's disdain was personal.
As a veteran I have really appreciated Filoni digging into and showing how little any society cares about soldiers or vets. The nitty details they got in this and so many other arcs like Umbara has been terrific. Mayday calling the lieutenant by his rank in that voice was exactly how a vet would do with an officer who was crap. Crosshairs arc has been exactly right imo, because the guys I knew who were snipers were absolutely the last guys to put down the rifle. Mayday's rigging the mine, and then saving Cross from the avalanche was perfect way to show how vets will act in combat for guys they just met cause they wear the same uniform. I think the defector clone Rex met had kids?
BTW, forgot to say thank you Angela for sharing what you know of vets struggles, it's appreciated.
I will never say frost bite again... it is now and will always be..... FREEZER BURN!
Coruscant solar cycle was 368 days long with a day consisting of 24 standard hours. Galactic time was calculated off it. So a rotation is a regular 24 hours or 1 day. 36 days in a combat location without re-supply is a long time.
It went from "Good soldiers, follow orders."
To "We're good soldier. We followed orders and for what?" 💔
Probably the best bad batch episode there is. It's actually one of my favourite star wars episodes period. It was so good and full of emotion and darkness. It's the sort of thing I enjoy in TV and especially star wars. I'm not someone who cries in TV but I was close in this episode
@funnylilgalreacts I guess Crosshair could become the first Phase 0 Darktrooper... considering he is in Mount Tantis now...
Their basicly clones that were to wounded or to old to keep fighting having limps replaced with cybernetics and beeing enclosed in their new armor.
The process was quite painful and dangerous also many of these clones got trauma from this and fighting machines for all their lives to than become themselves one... its a fate possibly worse than death for many of them.
😂Freezer Burn🤣
@funlilgalreacts: rotation = planet rotation= 1full day , cycle =solar cycle = 1full cycle around the solar systems star(s)
This episode hit so hard 😢
I love this episode, the rest of the Bad Batch is trying to find a new way to live while Crosshair is still trying to justify everything he has done by staying in the Empire. Watching Crosshair keep Mayday warm in the snow and carrying him back to the base was heart breaking. Mayday talking about following orders was just as heart breaking considering he probably ordered the death of a Jedi or Padawan maybe even killed them himself. I really hope Crosshair gets to have a happy ending.
Even in my hotel room on holiday I'm watching this video, I would have preferred my TV at home ,but this Oppo phone has 4K HD playback so your video still looked great , crystal clear and the sound of your voice was also crystal clear 👍👏👏👏
I don't have much to add. This was a good episode. I think Crosshair was pushed to his limit with the utter contempt the former imperial lieutenant displayed. (I don't think he could have been any more insufferable.) I'm wondering if they're going to use Crosshair as bait for Omega. I guess we'll see. I'm on board for wherever the seasonal winds will take us. Thanks for the watch! I'll look forward to the next one.
The clones value loyalty and the Empire has no sense of loyalty. Probably another reason why Palpatine wanted to replace them.
Throughout Bad Batch, Crosshair has been loyal to the Empire with those like Rampart and Nolan treating him like a pawn and with disdain.
Throughout Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch, Dee Bradley Baker has done a phenomenal job bringing life to the clones.
I thought that the hesitation to say his name, was him deciding whether to use his name or his number.
My Fear of Crosshair is him becoming a Dark Trooper hopefully that’s not gonna happen
I think the Batch is gonna end up at the mountain for something and they're gonna rescue Crosshair.
Finally Crosshair woke up this is what I didn't get about the empire they train the troopers and the imperials to compete with each other whereas the clones were loyal to each other which improved their performance
Probably the heaviest episode of the series. Brings up memories of the story arc with General Krell from Clone Wars, at least to a certain degree in terms of clone mistreatment.
Was so hoping for a crosshair redemption and he would return to the Bad Batch. IDK though. I sense those scientist have something sinister in store with him. Maybe use him in some way to get Omega bc that one doctor wants to find her to use as leverage against Nala Se
What he got is probably worse than death
Why a show call "Bad Batch" have such great episodes when the squad is not around ?
Because the ones with the sane and basically moral members of the Batch don't usually involve the "heros" committing acts that would be "real world" war crimes.
And the "fans" seem to think those are the only episodes worth watching.
Which probably says more about those "fans" than it does about the actual quality of the episodes.
@@kenle2 For me, it is the squad that pose problem.
You have the leader with a heart of gold, the smart but troublesome kid, the dumb big guy and the overly intellectual nerd. All of them in the usual mess of the week.
I could have just described the Characters of Parker Lewis Can't Lose
Give them more than 2D personnality, make them evolve.
In contrast this season we had Crosshair and Cody having real growth.
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So their characters have to "evolve" towards ... what?
Becoming another cynical, depressing buch of "antiheros"?
Yeah, because television hasn't given us dozens of those in live action over the past few years.
Look, we aren't going to agree here. You think you are being "adult" and I think swashbuckling action and a little blend of "romantic" melodrama is what Star Wars has had as its core for decades -and what made me a fan from the original 1977 version on.
You've got your opinion. I have mine. The difference is that not pretending I'm intellectually superior because of my opinion and too many "Andor is EVERYTHING" types are doing that in just about every Star Wars show comment section.
After a few months, it just gets tiresome.
@@kenle2
Please let's keep civil. It is just my opinion.
Depth is not just melodrama, adult, gory actions or whatevers. And growth don't alway come with trauma, it come with experience.
Wrecker could have moments to shine beyond being the muscle and being afraid of height (so he is Baracus in the A-team).
Look at Grog in Vox Machina, Teal'C in SG1, Ka D'Argo in Farscape, Zeb in Rebels.
Hunter don't have to be so "intense" and "broody" 24/24, would kill him to light up or crack a joke. Melinda May in AOS knew when to be funny.
It is not Resistance bad, but it is not Rebels or Clone Wars.
Not being intellectual, just watched too much TV in the last 40 years.
Mayday was a regrettable character to leave.
By the way, have you seen Stargate released in 1994?
If not, please take a look sometime.
I think 36 rotations is the equivalent of 36 days.
determined by Coruscant standard rotation, not based on individual planets rotation
I feel bad because as I’ve said I think they’re going to wipe out his memory. And he’ll lose all the progress he’s made.
yea, thats the nightmare
I understand now from your outro why you empathize so much with the clone troopers. Canadian vets here deserve better too. : /
Best episode I had watched because it gave me call duty MW2 vibes and Nazi Germany vibes
Which molecular structure is around your neck? I'm very curious.. is it something psychoactive ?
I always assumed you were Canadian until you mentioned something about you living in a desert in a reaction last week...🙄
no more good soldier's following orders huh crosshair when your being discarded like a piece of tools that is out lived its usefulness
Dave was a co-writer for this episode. Crosshair said last season that he had his chip removed a long time ago in episode 14 or 15.