Good Knives VS. Bad Knives....
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Hopefully this video will give some people some good insight on the difference bewteen good and "bad" or poor quality knives...
Tries the spine wack test....
Shattered my coffee table
Conyers IV lmao rekt
todays drinking game ....take 1 shot for each time he says you know
Dies
OH NO
yes sometime in the future I will have a new collection update video...
I know how they work, but I do not know how to make one from scratch is that what you mean?
In your opinion what's a good video camera? Because the one you use looks like it came from a potato farm
before your a jerk on the internet maybe you should check in on the video. this came out 4 and a half years ago when he was starting youtube.
Walker Moncel
6 and a half years. I know, it was just a joke. I apologize if you took it defensively.
Shikamoo P.K. hey dude, don't stress, but I gotta say I laughed as soon as I read it, nice throw away comment lol
Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate
Shikamoo P.K. AKA 2008
In my opinion, some of the older knives are best, ie---Puma, Early Buck knives, Kinfolk etc etc.
+Howard azmat Yeah those simple knives have very little that could break or fail on you. Plus they look quite good. Still, I am a sucker for high-grade materials and sleeker designs.
Tacticool knives with too many features are shit though, I want it to cut and nothing more. Don't even like half-serrations.
+Martin Smith patchy the pirate? in a seriousness I am getting tired of all knives being black.
Buck brand knives were very classy many decades ago.
@awesomeroflpwnage AUS8 is not my top preferred steel but is far from crappy...I assume you disslike 440C then as well? A steels performace is in its heat treatment you cna have 440C thans better performing than S30V just depends where its coming from...and whos treating it...
Cold Steel knives worth $1500 US might not be as out there as some thyink, although I cant think of any that are worth that a older full set of a certain modle just might be, I eman some of their swords get up there too, mind tellign us what modesl you have? I can fidn out qwhat they are worth to prove your point...
I use voyager xl on my every day carry cold steel makes the best knifes for under 100
420 is softer than the 440 series stainless steels, BUT a cheap knife using 440C with a crappy heat treat will be worse off than a good 420 heat treated properly such as a Buck model, they do a great job with their steel, so it all depends on who its commign from, but gnerally 440 is better than 420...
I have a M16-01T I will review VERY soon...my version has Titanium scales...but its the same knife, review comming very soon...
aye, thanks for the quick response.
i was thinking the ti lite simply because of its amazing self defense style... the stilleto design and quick opening is a big plus for me, so after looking through all the catalogs and playing around with em at my local knife store, ive come to decide on a tilite.
im not really looking for a general cutting knife, as much as id like a knife that can do whatever whenever, i also need a knife for a self defense situation.
Yesterday I saw that red/pink knife at a flea market. The price was 7.00$ but the guy said all knives were half off. Would it have been worth it if I bought it for 3.00$?
yes. 3.50
no its not worth it, to have a blade means at least to have something that its going to work for you, having a knife that will wiggle its blade around will not be worth to carry even if you got it FOR FREE!!!!!!! so get something that will at least be good on construction, you dont need the best steel on a knife for edc, for example i have a knife for 8 dollars, made from browning, very nice construction very solid and ive fucked the living shit out of it and it wont flinch its just that strong, the two disadvantages are that the steel is normal chinese steel and looses and edge fast and the knife is too fat&heavy and it will get in your way, it may bring your pants down and its uncomfortable, the one edc knife that im stuck with now and im happy is the boker magnum investigator, with the priice of 69BGN (or 30$) it was expensive for me but its very damn awesome, totally worth it g10 scales, very hard use knife with amazing construction, reverse tanto blade, liner lock + leniord hole and lastly very light knife, extremely comfortable to carry, medium sized - not too big and not too small, just perfect.
Random Dude Thank you for the speech, I appreciate your opinion. I will take it into consideration on every knife I buy.
Lord Scrappington no probs man im glad i helped :))
My opinion I hate fold knives .but I love full tang knives
Same. I mean I own some good folders, but most of my collection is full tang fixed blades.
You have giant pockets?
Fun watching these "flash back" and still informative.
Thanks.
How do you feel about 420HC? Overall I heard it's not horrible "flea market" type steel, but it's obviously not AUS8. I picked up an inexpensive Buck today just for EDC typical cutting things. I would like a nicer blade soon but I figured it would suffice for little things around town.
Good knives example: M9 Bayonet Doppler, Karambit Fade, Huntsman Crimson web factory new
Bad knives example: Gut Knife Safari Mesh, Falchion Knife Boreal forest, Flip knife Crimson web Battle scarred
Shockwave mk lol
+Abood Snipers the gut knife sapphire is good
:L
Abood Snipars real life dude not csgo XD but yo u are right
Wow my £8 knife (around 10 dollars) passed spine lock test, has no blade play and just cuts really well. Maby uk made has better quality?
Sam Wall Really depends on who made it. Like, Opinels are dirt cheap, but they're extremely sturdy.
+k-inetic you got that right. They are all I use and I'm a grounds man. I've abused the hell out of mine cutting wire, tree branches using them a screw drivers and have had no trouble with it. If I break it or lose it so what they only cost £10. Can also make them super sharp.
Ace McCool yeah, got mine, gave it a sharpen and its great
+Sam Wall So does my 25p knife from China.
jaocheu 25p!!! How do they even make that for that price!!!
i used to have that "lbad" knife with the red scales, if you are basing it off of price it is but that was one of the most durable knives i have owned. i could cut branches off tree, pry things open, ect. and it couldnt break. i could go on for the longest time about the things i have put that knfe though. the liner was tight and the blade was much more tight than yours seems though. the only reason i dont have it anymore because someone took it apart and lost all of the screws.
@cutlerylover i wonder what your thoughts are on smith and wesson knives. i had one for a stretch of time till i traded it off (would have preferred to keep it but it was a really good deal and it was a deal breaker). it had a chisel edge and was very cheap ($5 new no joke). man i used to cut wire and card board plastic, you name it and it took it like a champ. good video, no doubt many have learned a thing or two from it.
At 700 bucks I'd probably just buy something from Arms and Armor.
runningsandwich At 700 bucks screw a knife I'm buying a gun!!!
gsstrings i agree that a 700 $ knife is way to expensive but just saying"i rather buy a gun" it's bust not the same thing a knife is a cittibg tool i doubt a gun would work well for opening boxes.
Karvast guns work great for opening boxes... Not so great for what's inside though.
Karvast just buy a fukin leatherman
Great vid, but you forgot to mention the real reason why you want a knife with a lock in open position. Like spyderco folding knife. A buddy of mine cut off 3 fingers in a knife fight because the knife folded in a stabbing situasion. That's why you really need it to properly lock open. All my folding knives are spyderco for that reason.
Why was your friend stabbing someone with a non-locking folding knife?
Because he was attacked and used what he had in his pocket at the time. In Norway it`s strictly illegal to wear a knife. Hidden or not. If Police gets you, they take away your drivers lisence
Janeriks channel
Any knife?
yes. and even any sharp object like a screwdriver or anything that can be used as a weapon. And even more strange is if a burglar enters your house and starts to beat you up. You are not allowed to fight back. If you harm the poor intruder you will go to court and get punished hard. If you call the police as you should in those cases they will dismiss you because traffic control is more important. Strange huh?
Luckily Jeff and I live in PA and there is a law called the castle doctrine
I just recently discovered your channel and i absolutely love it! I just recently bought a knife and i was sketchy on what to get but i decided to get a Stryder SNG because you seemed to really like yours and i'm very happy with mine. I just wanted to say thanks for making and upkeeping a quality youtube channel with great information content as well as interesting and fun videos. Great Work man keep it up!! :D
what would you reccomend for taking in the woods and maybe cutting some branches
this is so funny to watch from 5 years ago :p lol your so much different now and its hilarious to see how you explain things back then!
hey cutlerylover, i have this $10 folder that i use a lot and the sides of the knife keep coming loose from the screw that the blade rotates around (srry for any termanology mistakes, im in no way a knife expert). But i was wondering how often would u have to tighten this screw on what u would consider a good knife. plz respond thanx.
@cutlerylover how much did you pay for those two "good" knives? I am starting a knife collection and they are cool. And of course i have a few crappy ones too that i got for free for like extras on an ebay auction. Thanks!
what do you think of the gerber 650? have used one for four years whacking and hacking and have gotten good service except i have to work pretty hard to put a good edge on it
Thanks for the info. I am looking to buy a good knife for less than $35 that is a glider or a fixed blade (the latter should have a sheath). I would like it to be very sharp and stay that way for as long as possible and should last more than 4-5 months. If the needs surpass 35 dollars I can spend up to 45 but no more. Let me know if you have a sugestion for either fixed or folding. Thanks again
Well its about perfference, I don't EDC mine because of the tight pocket clip and somewhat sharp quillion or guards, but you might want to look into Cold Steels Voyager series (if you still want to stay with cold steel) which woudl be a much better EDC for general purpose cutting tasks, they make the same knife in a few different sizes all within the same price range as the Ti-Lite, if you still go with the Ti-Lite, keep in mind that the Zytel one will be heavier...
just a noob question: why do a lot of pocket knifes have holes on them?
I read it's to balance, to use less steel (make it less heavy) and to prevent stickiness while cutting cheese or something like that
is that info correct?
I'm glad you mention opinion. Seems that everyone has one. I agree that a knife is worth what you have personally invested in it and get out of it.
Some folk didn't get what I was saying in my knife videos, you said it again for me.
Thanks
whats your opinion on the style of lock that the folding cold steel bushman has
if you get the bm 42 you will love it
its so smooth
its godly
im getting a 47 its a tanto point but it goes from a smaller base of the blade to a large tanto
but the 42 is the standard for GREAT balisong
I have used a Tac-Force "Speedster Model" I love. I also bought a cheap assisted open knife off ebay I like. If you open it up lube it and add lock-tight to the screws it will work really well. The blade steel is just cheap. but it works great after you sharpen it which has to happen quite often.
What were the brands of the cheap knives? The first one kind of looked like Coast, but I'm not sure.
thanks for this vid! I'm getting into knives and I got my first one a few days ago. This is good basic info to know when buying a knife, fortunately even though I didn't already know what you went over I did get a quality 30 dollar knife.
@shooter7424 nope... they flick open by the use of a detent on the liner lock... as you put pressure on the thumb stud the detent will pop out of the little hole in the blade and flick the blade open quick... the detent also helps keep the blade in the handle making it safer...
um on fixed blades how would you rate the frost cuttlery seal team survival knife ill post a comment on the details like the type of steal as soon as i can
Jeff Is that black one With the wood scales a frost?
Hey Cutlerylover, I have a Sherfield Pocket knife and bought it for about $10.00 and it locks up real easy, the liner lock is quite thick, there is very very little to no play when it is locked, and the blade is centered when closed.
I have it up already, search jaguar classic, also I dotn mention it in the video bu any BEAR and sons brand balisogn is just as nice if not nicer...
its the cold stel ti-lite there are a few versions of it now but this simple 4" zytel versions sells for $40...
cutrerylover what folding knife would you buy that is very durable, easy to clean, sharp and keeps an edge and is under $50
6:40 using some thread seal tape wrapped on the pivot screw should take care of that (or Locktite) Even more expensive knives can have that problem. One of my benchmade knives had some bladeplay when I got it (a Griptilian) and I tightened the pivot screw and bladeplay was gone but the blade was stiff and not smooth anymore when open/close, so I opened and closed it alot and noticed that the pivot loosened. Applied some tape and have not needed to readjust the pivot and that is over a year ago.
would you reccomend the ti lite for a good EDC knife? if so, should i go for the zytel or new aluminum handle? if not, what would u reccomend for the same price range?
Hey CutleryLover i love your vids i might get my first knife do you reccomend a Ka-Bar Tanto full sized???
This might be a stupid question, but what's the use of the holes in the hilts of those knives?
@HippyamongHicks What were you doing with the spyderco?
I have a spring-assisted knife that says ''ARMY'' on it. It has a small blade to cut a seatbelt and a point to break windows when you crash. I went to the store where I bought it and the person said that the ARMY stopped producing them because the company was never supposed to make them. Is that type of knife really discontinued?
@cutlerylover hey about the lock. you said that you dont realy need it if you handle it correct. but what if you stab something? you dont want to find out that the knife has trouble penetrating and closes on your fingers. so I think you do need a lock, always.
Kop4321 where did you get the mini knife cause I have a gold one that's also an inch
hey man..what site do you use for all of your trades that you make? Definately a good deal trading for knives than buying brand new from $40+ and only paying s&h for a trade than buying brand new plus the s$h
Really love your videos man!
Thank you for review. Actually, I really like my super-bargain FROST Little Nomad folding frame lock knife. I bought 5 for $15. Size and shape is similar to Kershaw Scallion. Frost steel is quite good and holds an edge well. Plus, it's a cinch to re-sharpen. I dropped it on concrete and one of the hardwood handle slabs popped off. It was simple to fasten it back into place with a couple dabs of JB Weld epoxy. In summary, some inexpensive knives are KEEPERS! Paul
do u have the anodized blue titanium ti-lite? that one is a bad ass knife...i got one lol... im hoping to get the Benchmade model 42 soon
@CutleryNovice im pretty sure that ATS34 and 154-CM are pretty much the same steel, and where is D2 on your list? i like making my custom knives out of D2 lol
i have recently bought a smith and wesson special ops MAGIC large spring assisted knife. made of 4034 steel.. is 4043 steel good? and is putting a few drops of oil into the top of the knife and wipeing it off enought to keep the knife in good quality?
I love the one with wood were did you buy it
I am sorry I have not hard of that knife before, if you cna send me a link via message to one online I cna tak a look at it and give you my opinion....
@awesomeroflpwnage every steel if properly made has its benafits and downsides, AUS8 is a great commoners steel since it is easy to sharpen and maintain S30V is a great steel but many find it harder to sharpen...and it will tend to chip under extreme stress unlike AUS8 which will tend to roll...soft isnt always bad, also benhcmade when they has their red class used steels like 8cr9mov...not that different than aus* and they also used N690 on their monochrome whioch I liked a lot...also soft
Owned a CRKT knife once but unfortunately I lost it! But still own a Gerber Gator serrater. I've had it for years and have used it for a lot of different jobs. Still just as strong as the day I bought it! One of the best I have ever owned!
i'm got a project coming up in which i take apart a cheap Chinese knife and try to temper and heat treat the blade. basically i'm upgrading the knife (as well as saving time in cutting out the blade and shaping the blade)
What do you think about the play in the SOG Flash II ?
Can you also do a video comparing fire and ice? which one is better?
@lazarra101 what will be your use? utility, self defense, multi tool, just plane cool looking?
I had 20 credit for AutoZone so I picked up the Smith and Wesson extreme ops SWA4 is it a good knife ? I know more in flashlight than knives but it does seem well made and to me is great quality what do you think?
i bought a really cheap (like 3 bucks) pocket knife that has LOTS of Bladeplay and a dull blade.
Any sharpening tips/advice?
I broke the lock on a cheapo folder I have while trying to use it as a throwing knife when I went on a camping trip. I still use it for cutting boxes but for hunting and self defense I use fixed blade knives.
That Columbia River knife looks strikingly similar to the Spyderco PITS 2014. When was it released?
Do you own any switchblades? If so, could you do a review on it. Thanks.
I would like to thank you *if you see this* for the very informative advice and tips you made in this and your other videos
As a newer knife collector I have been only testing and purchasing cheaper knives French, American, Switch Blade, and Butterly.
This answered a lot of things I wasn't sure about as far as "blade play" is concerned and the basic quality of a knife.
The nationality or make in general also seems to be a defining factor as far as rare antique and style is concerned.
Ok well both the sytel and aluminum versins will suit you fine, its about perfference, but I alwas felt the 6" version is justa bit too big for easy pocket carry, but again, some love it some don't so its up to you whether to get the 4" or 6"...
@cutlerylover I saw this one plastic butter knife at a gun show for sale for around $1000
the one which works on your budget and style,
which would you do more? carve or gut (hunt)
what do you like in a knife
What about Mtech knifes? I have a store that sells mtech close to my house, i already got one....should i get another one or save for a more expensive one?
You mean single bladed knife and multibladed knife? my favrite single bladed knife is my new william henry folder which I have a video on, as for multi bladed knife, it has to be my vitorinox fisherman...
I just bought a Emerson Super CQC 7. and I am quite happy with it, if you do some math, my blade was $200. but a crappy $20 knife is going to break and be unreliable, how many times will you be replacing that $20 knife? and if shit happens 1 day you pull your crappy knife and use it the blade snaps off, or the lockup breaks and the blade comes down on your fingers then your sitting there with a bloody sliced open hand and a very pissed off attacker. not worth it IMO. always pays going w/ quality
Is ti-lite spring assisted?? if not how u open it like that without fliking ur wrist??
I'm really digging your videos.
This video is very informative and by the way you know where I can buy a good Bowie knife for no more than $100?
can vegetable oil make it nice and smooth too? or how bout oil that u put on ur car doors so that it doenst make a squeeking noise? will that work too?
just got my smith and wesson extreme ops blade, thoughts?
thanks for this video. clears up a lot.
got a Ozark Trail knife at Wal-Mart for 7.49 and it has no play in the blade whatesoever and it looks kinda similar to the 1st knife you demonstrated, it has the exact same locking mechanism but it locks everytime....
I just started making my own knives I love collecting knives and other tools but I just could not ever find the right one to use so I get my old tools that either broke or no need to use them and I just make one that fits what I’m gonna do with it great hobby too
@VMFA115Starloric I have a video on how to flick a knife open easily...if its smooth and oiled doesnt take much to get it out fast...
Could you do one of these with fixed knifes (thats the only type i buy) that would be very helpful.
Yea, been looking to get the M16-10KSF - Special Forces - Tanto for a while, although recently I bought a Kershaw Brawler.
@HippyamongHicks Who was said knife made by?
The red one is a project pro, they sell them at like dollar stores and gas stations, usually they have a little knife with them
one more thing, judging on ur great vids and knowledge, i was wondering is 420 stainless better than 440? because i know 440 stainless is used in cheaper knives.
yup, very true..."to each his own" is a good quote to use...
I have an actuall question though. Is 440 Stainless Steel good for blades?
Nice intro to knives. A lot of people will find this useful. Vids like this are what make youtube great. Good job.
A couple months back, I bought a $25 Duratech folding knife. It's cheap, but by all the criteria in this video, it would be classified as a good knife.
- Reliably locks when opened
- Passes spine-whack/force close test
- Very little blade play
- Blade coating holds up pretty well
- Nice solid anodised aluminium casing (Stainless liner locking)
- V-ground edge
- Contains with magnesium alloy firestarter & LED torch w/rare-earth magnet (if that's what you're into)
Now for the drawbacks
- Anodised coating on the handle shows the wear
- Blade centreing isn't very good.
- Belt cutter in the handle catches on pockets/keys, etc. so if I ever find myself needing to use it, it will probably be blunt.
i just bought a tac force spring assist knife, for $10 on amazon. it has an aluminum handle and high carbon steel blade. i was thinking that the knife was going to be really cheap, but suprisingly it fell in a lot of your good knife categories
@HippyamongHicks You dont like the FFG spyderco knives do you?
It all really depends on what you're needing to do with your knife. I've got a ZT 0350 with s30v steel that will cut anything and hold an edge forever, but is actually duller than a knife a third of the cost made of aus 6m high carbon steel. I also have a Smith&Wesson Extreme Opps that matches it but doesn'hold it as long. I got that for $16.
Thanks! Yeah I have heard that ALOT in other countries not only is it hard to find certain knives but you do have to pay alot more for them, which stinks...but once you get them its just that much more exciting...