When I read they want a rockstar it translates to "There's so much sh!t here we need someone we can pay poorly to deal with a lot of random non-core-work related BS and toxic people"
Being a "Rockstar" usually means you're doing everything - depending on what's mostly needed at that point and often doing it overtime. Not saying it's a bad thing, but with that term they're usually aiming for young fresh out of college people willing to work their asses off.
@@floatingchimney I hate how they twist meaning of words to total opposite. Rockstar means you already have quite long career doing shitty stuff, now you are star and everyone is there to serve your magnificent mind and talent. Never gonna happen in company, unless you start your own.
@@eitkoml You cant refuse to answer a question on an interview , its a sure fire way to not get hired. That said with clever wordplay you can work around these 'illegal questions' . If you have friends in the industry have them interview you for practice , it helps if your friend can have someone you dont know interview you so it feels more real. IF you do not know the person , its a more realistic experience. I will even record my interviews sometimes (just leave your phone on record in your pocket) this way whether you get the job or not you can go back and listen and work on the areas you need to brush up on. Interviewing is an art , but there is a science to it.
Being a well-informed, friendly, and savvy interviewee is fine, but being stickler for anti-business regulations is a pretty easy way to not ever get hired. Just put yourself in HR's shoes a bit and see how you see yourself. You say "I can't answer that question because it's an attempt to discover my financial history, which is illegal according to H.R. blah blah act of Congress 1984." Yeah ok, so are you going to snitch on us when you see all the other regulations we're probably breaking every hour of our existence because we failed to retain a team of lawyers to navigate every basic business activity? No thanks, little reward vs. nearly unlimited liability, next candidate. Better would be to understand why they want to know, which tells you what answer they want to hear, which tells you how to answer. "Have you ever filed for bankruptcy?" If you're interviewing for a coding job, not accounting, they just want to know if you're likely to be stable and not desperate for quick cash, so even if you did file for bankruptcy the details you give in your explanation can ease concerns and put you ahead of people who reveal nothing and are therefore a scary unknown. "I filed for bankruptcy 4 years ago after my divorce to restructure our debt and reduce interest payments that were no longer affordable. It was a difficult process but worked well I'm now back on my feet." OK, so even though you were bankrupt once you're obviously a logical and stable person who can make hard decisions and show resilience during difficult times, hired!
@@DDBAA24 If you can't refuse to answer a question on an interview, so then the only option is to lie, to say what they want to hear. All this process is bullshit, if they're getting those illegal questions, they deserve liars and bad persons to fuck them over. That's not how you avoid assholes, by being an assholes, that's how you get even more assholes, because you turn people into assholes, it's the only option they are left with. Suck to be in those places...
My wife, when she was pregnant, worked 70+ "part time" hours a week at a Home-Health care agency called "Frontier services", where she got paid $9.50 an hour, no overtime. Worked on Christmas, no holiday pay. 2 weeks before she was due to give birth, she asked her superiors if she could get a couple weeks off for recovery once our daughter was born. You know what they said? "Well we don't really do that here. Just apply after you have the baby and we'll rehire you". That was after she worked there for 10 months. 70 hours a week most weeks, 100 hours if you include the week before Christmas. It seems like what they were doing is straight up illegal, but for people like us, the little people, trying to afford a lawyer and take them to court is impossible. Moral of the story, as you say, companies won't be loyal to you, so why be loyal to them. Don't work harder than you have to and don't put in extra effort.
That sounds illegal. Though this varies from state to state, if you routinely work more than 32 hours a week and were originally classified as part time, you must be reclassified as full time. Rules for overtime also vary from state to state. The general rule of thumb is you must pay hours worked, whereas some states will require time-and-a-half for hours exceeding 40 per week. Companies also may choose which holidays they observe, if any at all, and may require employees to work those days. Maternity leave is still being argued in courts in many jurisdictions, but in the states that have laws governing it, the general rule of thumb is that employers must provide maternity leave and must guarantee your position will be held until you return. This is one of those things for which I'd check the state's Labor Board. All this provided, of course, if you are in the US.
they mentioned that they knew it was illegal. The problem is even if they do something illegal, its incredibly difficult to actually get companies to be held accountable for their actions without enough money to back it up. For poor people, its just not possible to get a lawyer and sue them
I'm not sure what you and all these other people are talking about with not getting lawyers. There are SO many lawyers that will look at a case or rather have someone from their office look at the case and determine what the probability of winning and outcome will be and they take the cases on the basis of they only get paid once you win (if the case is good enough) and from what you describe it would be open and shut if there was any verifiable and documented evidence of the stuff you mentioned.
@@Xerxessinclair Yeah exactly. From what I heard, there are a lot of lawyers who take cases like this on a no-cure-no-pay basis. So essentially the lawyers are taking away some of your risk, and in return they'll ask for a higher amount. Which I think is fair - after all, it'll motivate them to try and win, and if you get half of something that's still more than all of nothing. OP, I'd suggest you try and piece together all of the documentation you have, try and paint a picture that's as complete as possible, do some legal research for yourself and go talk to a lawyer about this if they're willing to do this on a no-cure-no-pay basis. I'd hate to see you and your wife get screwed like this. It's just not fair. The worst that can happen if you go no-cure-no-pay is no cure.
Pet Cheetah true story is: once a while ago I have eyewitnessed a job posting for a dev position. They asked for “preferred 8 years of experience”, while the framework itself was around for only 5 years. So wait a sec, is it a very well hidden implication of hiring a creator of this framework? Nicely done, but imma ditch. Or most likely, HR had absolutely no clue whom do they need to hire, for what tasks, how much will that cost them. I’d say good 70% HRs are like that, which hurts companies in a long run a lot.
Nods, actually if dedicating an entire video towards using humble brags isn't too much trouble...? Otherwise more displays of Armony please, I've been worried about him since, until now, we hadn't seen him after that 3rd season episode of Rick and Morty.
There was some reddit story I found a while back where someone was in an interview that went pretty badly, but on the employer's side instead. There was a lawyer sitting in on the interview. Eventually, one of these illegal questions came up, and the lawyer jumped in and said somethin' along the lines of 'don't answer that' or 'you can't ask that'. Interview continued a bit longer, and another illegal question came up. Lawyer just about lost it.
Age - You also have to be careful about what you say AFTER you get the job. If you’re older, be VERY careful what you say around your coworkers. I look at least 15 years younger than my age, so I can fit in with the other/younger employees. At one job, though, I told an older woman my age, because she was close to my age. My wife thinks she told others in the office, because it felt like attitudes towards me changed after that. People were less tolerant and less patient with my learning curve. Now, I keep my age to myself.
I cannot believe how many people ask my age. I'm a woman and young and people ask me almost every time I meet a new person. I flat out say "Are you seriously telling me your mother never taught you not to ask a lady her age?"
It's weird - younger people get weirded out by working and hanging out with older people, but then, if you look younger, people don't believe you have experience and/or are lying about it.
@@jamesthelivingplanet Who are you? where have you been? where are you planning on going? How does where you've been in the past translate to skills and experience you can apply to the new job? Are there any hobbies you enjoy doing in your spare time that provide skills that can translate to your new job, such as interpersonal communication, time management, paying attention to details, etc? What is your long-term goal (owning your own house, starting a family, etc) and how does the new job fit into your plan of achieving your long-term goal? Can you get along well with others? Can you modify your behaviors to match those of the "Company Culture"? If you get to choose between available jobs, why would you choose this job over any others that might be available?
When they ask you to tell them about yourself, recite information from your resume. Your name, your education, any certs, your career goals, the last places you worked, what tasks you performed there, anything that is relevant to the position.
@Pusalieth I wish I was in a position where I could have my own business. You don't need to squeeze maximum productivity out of everyone to make profit; you can make very significant income just by keeping your workers happy and keeping turnover rate under control.
Man, after watching this, I feel like going through a bunch of interviews with absolutely not intention of getting a job, just to play this game of hiring Jiu-Jitsu.
There’s nothing better than doing interviews to up your game. If they result in a job offer, they can open your eyes as to what you’re worth on the job market. If it is an on-site interview, it is interesting to see what they are doing differently, and if you would actually like to work there.
One of the most poignant interviews involved a guy asking, with a self-entitled smirk on his face, "So, why did you choose to apply to this company and what makes you think you deserve the position?" I let him know that I had never heard of the company before, and that a talent scout had found me and asked if I would be interested in the job. The smirk quickly faded to humbled dejection from the interviewer's face. Priceless!
well since all the men in the office (himself included) were either divorced or in their 2nd & 3rd marriages. Men because it was a very old school office.
Back in 2003 or so, I saw an ad with a job requirement that included "more than 10 years Java experience". So, I sent them the list of all 7 (or whatever it was) people in the original Oak/Java team, and told them that I doubt that any of them would be interested in their crappy company that has no clue about the most fundamental things about Java.
Hiring bias re: age and family is certainly a thing. I've even noticed, at a certain point, companies are MORE likely to hire you if they think you have a family to support. They think you need the security and stability, and therefore you'll be less likely to leave that job.
I've been in a hiring situations before where this has been the final criteria used to select who was hired. Mainly it was because the company felt they could help a parent in need.
@@RevenantEverest This is extremely negative. You could say the opposite is true- it's a winning game all the time because companies are either going to prefer you for perceived family stability or youth. Life is just perspective.
You guys can't generalize every employer out there. So much depends on office and company culture, but..much depends on the hiring manager and job position. There can be circumstances in particular too. I once worked in a big company and my department had 11 people doing the work of 20 people. We had two of those 11 spots that were constantly turning over. And..it was always females in these spots. Once they hit the year to year and a half point, they quit. Reasons were always either: 1. Need to spend more time at home with kids or 2. Just got married and husband prefers I stay home. Ok. So..after losing like 10 people to these reasons, my boss told HR she wanted men in these 2 positions. I get it and to some degree I don't blame a company for wanting to avoid constant turnover. I get it.
If it's any consolation, *many* people have gaps in their employment history... so it's not like a person will stand out for it these days. Just be prepared to be asked to explain the gap and you should be fine.
its less of a problem these days. If they ask just tell them its because its a volatile job market so of course you have bounced jobs. Otherwise you wouldn't be applying to them and still be working your first job at wal mart which would indicate you have no ambition. Don't they want to hire ambitious people willing to take a risk to get a better job? I did find it strange when I did long haul trucking that on your application they would not allow you to leave gaps in employment and told me to fudge the dates together. As far as I am concerned a company who wants no job gaps wants people with no spine that will never ask for raises and never leave. If they are afraid you will leave because you have done it in the past they know how shit of a company they are.
Because "years of experience" is not a true metric of experience. It does suck though. Most people don't have to worry about it if they're being honest about their skillset.
It is not nearly so stark. I have a couple gaps, and it is not an issue. It is probably less of an issue for me because I have a few of positions with 4+ years, so the risk of me turning out to be someone who is job hops for the bad reasons appears to be less. If you are purely in it for the money, you want to change positions every two years, either through internal promotion or changing jobs, in order to be racking up regular raises and newer responsibilities on your resume. But if you run into a bit of bad luck along the way, the hiring manager may see a bunch of 1 year stints, some gaps, and never having stayed in a position for any meaningful length -- that is something I would be less inclined to take the risk on.
I'm not sure that making these questions illegal really helps anything. You can find out a bunch of these just by looking at the person being interviewed; age, race, sex, weirdness factor, tattoos, etc. and for the others... I'm really wondering why a company should not be able to ask about your finances or your marital status. There's some jobs that would seem to favor married people, or financially-savvy people, or unmarried, or women who aren't about to get pregnant, and it doesn't necessarily help workers when they're put into positions they're not suited for. Certainly doesn't help employees to have their productivity and achievements in the company hampered by unfit coworkers. Obviously HR should be looking for real data and not making assumptions based on age, status, etc. but if the interviewee is lying to get the job or simply isn't good at predicting future life events or has made massive recent changes that negate previous data, there isn't necessarily any data, so the assumptions are the valid remnant. Is it really good for us as workers if a woman doesn't share that she's trying to get pregnant, gets hired and trained for a job while she's trying to get pregnant, then gets pregnant, then quits to give birth and raise a kid? So the government says companies have to offer free job training to future moms now? Why? Maybe they should have discriminated and hired the dad who will actually be working full-time and supporting his young family instead of spending several thousand $ training someone who then quits and is unable to do the job anyway and will not be supporting a family either. Companies lose money sometimes, fine, but you're passing up a worker who actually needs the job long-term to support multiple family members for someone who just padded her resume, got free training, and then may never work again anyway, and everyone else working in the company now has to do more work training someone else. Why is the government pushing this inefficiency into the system as a social good? The resources of a company could have gone to someone who needed it, but the government says you can't decide, so it didn't. There's plenty of jobs where a future-mom would be a great pick. I.e, jobs where she can bring a baby to work. There are jobs where men are discriminated against for their male parts by customers, i.e daycare centers, teachers, nurses. Why not let actual businesses make these choices themselves? I wouldn't want to work somewhere I'm unwanted anyway, I'd rather know when and why I'm unwanted so I can adjust accordingly instead of just blindly peppering every company with resumes and getting a bunch of vague rejections that teach me nothing. I'd rather know "we didn't hire you because we think you're an unstable alcoholic" so I know I have to scrub my 15-year-old Facebook page before the next interview.
as for the "we are hiring other people, filling other positions can you do that in the interim?" - I got screwed over once, I was the only salesman for an entire branch of a company for ~6 months. But I turned it into a positive during salary negotiations - i asked "how many salespeople would you normally have?" "5" ok, so what are you offering me in pay? "xx/hr" that doesnt sound like the pay of someone who will be doing 5 peoples jobs, I would like {xx/hr}" they sucked it up and paid up. when they finally did hire other people they fired, and then attempted to hire me at 1/3 of the amount i made before. so, i asked them to pull the sales numbers. I had still be doing 5x the sales of all the other salespeople. I asked for 5x the amount I initially received. they said it wasn't in the budget, so.I didn't take it, and that entire branch closed for a month or so. I probably would have enjoyed being petty a little more if that branch had closed permanently. (oh and they had to hire 5 more people to make up for me not being there on top of what they already had) actually I have been screwed twice come to think of it, at my most recent job before dev, I ended up doing Sintering(pulling things out of 600F ovens), IT, and General Maintenance(such as climbing in attics to fix lights or A/C units). - $14/hr, totally not worth it.
I saw a programmer job listing for Home Depot and one of the job requirements was constant standing, sitting and bending. Ability to lift over 50 pounds.
in germany it is legal to lie when answering some questions, e.g. 'are you pregnant?'/'do you plan to have a family?' because these questions are illegal to ask
How would they know you lied about planning to have kids in the first place? Can't you just have a kid two years from now and gon"Oh, I wasn't planning it"
As a job applicant it is hard to not disclose information when they ask because you are really trying to land the job but I think you can mentally prepare yourself by rehearsing answers so you are not sidelined when they hit you with the dirty questions!
long ago I sat down with an old ssgt that pretty much told me that civvi jobs was 40% "resume wording", 20% attitude and 40% percent of look/act the part, he gave me a few loose examples: Mrap training we did in kuwait? "Leadership Training" that other time when we moved GSE across the flightline to the other side of the hangar? "Advanced Asset Management Skills" and those long hours cleaning rifles in the arms room? "Critical Task Assessment under Time Constraints" I mean the guy was a guru of civilian stuff, he have been in-out in-out of the service two branches and had like 4 MOS that he could pick and choose. Freak of Nature, spoke 4 languages and could pretty much get any job yet he choose to stay in and retire from the Army. Almost & years and everything he advised me works to the T, I mean don't lie saying stuff that you didn't do, just adjust the former mission objective to your current mission.
“We are going to need to run your credit” Me: There must be a mistake here. This is a transaction after which YOU will owe ME money, what is YOUR credit history like?
The extra mile bit at the end was golden, you should expand this into another video someday. I've been hearing this rockstar dev thing a lot lately... heh. Oh and another tip: Watch for the people who are in the office while you walk around with the HR people. If you see them bored, or feel the place very tense, it isn't a good place to be. I was there, more times than I'd like to, and I can confirm it's a fact. In one of my past jobs, I was very excited, y'know, and finally I ended up just like the guy I saw when I joined who had been there for like 3 years or so and just didn't give a shit. It's like a mirror of sorts. So: Do your job, then have a life. Don't live to work, work to live.
I had a friend drop out of the interview loop at a company precisely because when they did the walk through of the office, everyone looked like they were being held at gun point. Nothing but abject misery in the whole room. Called her recruiter as soon as she left the office to say it wasn't going to be a good fit lol.
I've applied for several help desk jobs lately where they sounded interested but decided not to hire me after they found out I'm disabled. I don't need my legs to answer the phone and use a keyboard.
@@andreiscutariu1035 That, plus in IT, people within the industry in the local area tend to know each other and talk quite a bit. Word could easily get around that you're someone who walks out easily and companies won't want anything to do with you as they might see it as a red flag
A good recommendation is taking negotiating classes, like ones on udemy or skillshare or whatever so that when you get to an interview you can manipulate it in your favor.
Speaking as someone who has been in the military as well - he'd be justified to defend himself, just because some guy decides to get offended at a question, and then not only that, decides to physically harm the questioner, especially if there are multiple attackers, just because his feelings maybe got a little hurt for a moment. People can easily die from a single punch. Be it well trained professional fighters, or random people getting into street fights, there are many recorded deaths from one or two punches knocking someone down, and usually what causes it is the victim smashing their head on the ground. It's a pretty common thing to be asked by people once they find out about someones veterans status anyway. Do I think it's always appropriate to ask? No. Would I generally prefer to not be asked it? Sure. Would I ever harm someone for the simple, ultimately harmless curiosity? Absolutely not. That's far more pathetic than someone defending themselves from a physical attack. "Oh no, someone asked me a question, I and all of my coworkers/friends now MUST beat them!" If you don't want to "risk" talking about your experience in the military, (especially considering most people think everyone in the military is broken with PTSD and is a shooter), then don't bring up that you were in the military, simple as that. From my own personal experience and all of my friends who were also in combat arms or served in some combat oriented capacity, very few people actually get offended by it, but more often than not, you're probably just going to get some quip about killing kids or some joke like that, which, to most civilians, should never be joked about, but it's a pretty good way to put people off from answering questions like that, at the very least, and that humor is normalized within the military. More often than not, it's people getting offended on other peoples behalf when things like this come up, and many times, in my own anecdotal experience, the offended person was just some guy who was maybe deployed somewhere for 6 months and sat in an air conditioned office every day or at worst worked in a capacity similar to being a mechanic where they actually did have to go outside in some heat occasionally, but in a safe area, on their base, and with practically a 0 percent chance of any harm coming to them, other than maybe tripping on their way to the nearest restaurant on base or something.
I'm sure you're pissing off recruiters 😂 PLEASE keep doing it 🙏🏽 This is solid info on a topic I've quietly complained about for years so I'll be using it effective today
What would you recommend to do as HR, refuse to answer or lie? Considering that refusing to answer would probably prevent you from obtaining a job you really want..
And the best way to avoid a toxic relationship is to not start it. Same goes for jobs. The market for junior dev is on our side. Don't sell ourselves short.
@@andreiscutariu1035 Maybe tell the truth? You're so stupid and so salty that you can't even assume that there's a better way then being an asshole or being a lier? Who whould you hire yourself? Asshole, lier, or mayba a person who can tell the truth when asked a simple question?
@@gregt9608 Yet answering truthfully allows them to discriminate unfairly toward you when it's irrelevant what they asked you. Nice taking it up the ass.
depends on how desperate someone is for a job if you aren't desperate and tell them only what they want to hear, you're the one who has to bear living and working that (likely) undesirable environment every single day
I get what you’re saying (better to have a job that sucks while looking for something better) but many people can’t convincingly lie their way through an interview.
11:30 - During one job interview, I was once asked if I played golf because computer scientists like it because it's "mathematical". I said no, I play softball (refer to my avatar) and if I wanted a mathematical sport, I would pick pool. I always felt that was a stupid question, but now I understand why he asked it. Very sneaky.
The best part is that even though we know about these "illegal questions" and their implications, we're still stuck in the same hole not answering them as we do answering them. If a company asks you a question and you are reluctant to answer, that's going to give them some red flags that maybe you're not "the deal" that they want, so they don't hire you. Maybe in some situations it would be better to just answer the question, as it is that companies will be more afraid of what the _don't_ know about you, versus what they do. Furthermore, companies have the upper hand in all situations. There will always be the few people who are willing to take shit from the companies just so they can become employed (which, in this day and age, most people will have to take what they can get), so if you're getting red flags from the company and you're not willing to answer certain questions or agree to certain terms, they're just going to dump you and find someone who is. Like you say, they're always going to take the "better deal", and that's all you can do
it's a giant pain in the ass, but I've had success by scripting answers to every possible question that I could be asked. It really worked. I feel that it should not be that hard to get a job, though. On the upside, i had the leg up in interviews because I was good at getting interviews. I had a bunch of job offers that way. Also I had to do a pre-show ritual like Usher and Beyonce to get into character. It's wayyy too much work but this is the solution.
One point about credit checks, especially when it comes to government agencies and/or companies that have government contracts, is that a credit inquiry might indicate whether you may be more susceptible to committing a fraudulent act and/or being blackmailed.
I had 3 interviews this summer. They all noped on me, the second they realized I was still in school. From the engineering firms down to the local gym. It was a shitty summer nontheless because I couldn't get a summer job. college students are the main people who need a summer job
never EVER tell them you're "in school". Tell them "Oh I'm taking a class or two and slowly working my way up to an undergrad degree, but I definitely have time to work for you guys" - you know, that is IF you really need the job and dont mind the fact that the company you're being interviewed by discriminates against college students.
Check out your campus, they usually have job boards and groups dedicated to hire students during summer. I think my old college still has it last I heard.
@@09lz90 yeah that's bullshit. College students need summer jobs And if I read one more article from boomers about how lazy we are... Where's the nearest AR15 shop
I went through multiple interviews a couple of years ago and got the job offer but at a much lower rate than what was originally posted. Then they tell me that their company policy was to give entry level salaries to people who are unemployed (I was retrenched and had been looking for a job for 6 months at that stage, had to sell most of my stuff and move out of my apartment). So I asked directly. "So if I had a temporary 2 hours per week job I could have received the advertised salary". They said yes, but that I also had to remember that I was unmarried, single without any dependants and I was living with my parents thus I could get by with a lower rate. At that point I pushed the offer away and took my 12 years of experience somewhere else.
Would love to hear your red flag interviews. Unfortunately the car thing. I live in a place with good public transportation. But jobs discriminate against people who use it. So offices that are downtown, right off the train station. Put in their job description. "You need a car. Public transportation isn't reliable transportation." Even though I was late far less often than all my coworkers who had cars and would get caught in traffic every. single. morning. So all HR has to do in the job description. Is put "Requires a car". Even though it doesn't. But they're legally covered. I've gotten turned down from so many jobs for not having a car. I was getting to the point where I was about to start lying and then say "Oh my car broke down". On the first day of work. I ended up working from home anyway. But I'm absolutely going to lie if it comes up again. It's such bullshit. Thanks for the video Josh.
I feel like this happened to me at my last job, especially when it came to job transfer/promotion at this packing plant. Started as a Boxer, ended as a Boxer.
You are doing a great service to people talking about this stuff. I didn't know any of this until I was 5 years deep in my career as a software engineer. Keep up the great work!
They can't ask your age, but they can ask you to fill out a criminal background check that asks for your DOB. There are always ways around the rules to get the info they're after.
Don't want to be personal and bring family into it... but I think that's important here because from what I see - your family failed badly because your father signed some NDAs/NCAs and then he thought he can't be bothered to keep it. After he was let go ... and it's such a injustice that you can't work in same place your entire life. So he thought "f* my responsibilities". But it turned out that people who he worked for were better in taking advantages of others that he was. Generally for NDA or anti-competitive agreements you agree to get more money in exchange for some limitations imposed on you, so don't be a child and take at least a little bit of responsibility for what you sign. Especially when you do that for money. And now you're being salty and you're teaching all these idiots how to fail in life by telling lies and semi-legally - fraud others. Doing them a huge disservice. Well maybe if people were honest and keep their promises - they wouldn't have to be so salty and miserable. It's like watching some ideologist of failed, communist regime from 1950 telling about a class war. Really you're so stupid that you think that you'll get a good job when you're on a war with the employer since day one? You're breathtaking because of what? Unable to get a proper job, unable to adhere to what you signed, being an ass, being biased, hateful, a lier? Spreading this BS that everyone is there to get you? No one gives a shit as long as you're fullfilling your legally binding obligations. Just give me a break! BS like this will be exposed on fist occassion, probably not even by employeer but by other employees. Because no one sane will want to work with a person like you, because most people want to get the job done, get home and cash a nice paycheck. You're young, get a grip instead of spreading this infantile BS that you can treat people who pay you like shit because the law allows it. Guess what, the law also allows the company that employs you - to treat you like trash. You wouldn't be able to sell some sorry-ass $2 burger with that shitty, toxic attitude. Which is typical for old loosers who tried to scam or fraud others, but failed.
@@gregt9608 i agree with what you say but some question are morally wrong like adking a female if she will be having a baby. So they can then skip her for someone else. I my self am looking for work for a month now and some places i applied for straight up want a pro for the pay of an internee.
I have a career coach. One of my interviews I was asked about my family planning and she told me prior to the interview that certain questions are illegal. After I was asked about it, I had said I'm not at liberty to discuss family planning. The interviewer ended the interview and stormed off like a kid. After that, we reported it to the Labor Department and they got in trouble.
Companies discriminate against introverts. Any company that has you take a personality test is looking for a preppy cheerleader personality type. Got rejected from a place I had worked for previously before they implemented a personality test. Fortunately I knew when the GM was going to be in and called them so naturally I got welcomed back.
Not looking for a job, nor interested in working for anyone ever again, was just curious to see if companies are still shady af when asking interview questions. Seems they've gotten shadier. Thanks for educating the younglings on the realities of life!
My company’s HR says that when they have called the applicant’s company (which is not often) to find out what they were paid, there is reluctance to divulge that information. Think of it: if you are calling your competitor, then it would be very useful to know what the competitor pays a UX developer with three years experience. Why should the competitor give that information out freely? I check what someone with a similar job title has stated on Glassdoor as their salary to gauge how above or below market the other company is.
The fact that they ask these questions, that are really or supposedly, illegal, yet still do, should tell one and all about the company! I don't get why they would risk a lawsuit to ask illegal questions!
if you work a job, any job, if they ask you to go the "extra mile" make sure you either 1 dont do it or 2 get bonus money from it since they need it done but are to cheap or poorly managed to get it done right. never do extra anything for free
After my leg was injured and my employer made me "quit" I've never been able to fine a stable job that I can do. I've honestly just thought there might not be much of an option for me other then suicide. I'm no good in school and I can't get entry positions having aspergers syndrome or autism they don't want me working around customers, no one wants to train me for a job, and not being in good physical health... I can't get physically demanding jobs... Just standing as it is hurts a lot. I already feel like my life is just over.
Even if you are not talented, that just means you have to put in more time and effort than than someone who is. if you fail , try again. if you fail , try again. if you FAIL , try AGAIN. Doesn't matter if it is your thousandth time. Train the mind. Never quit because the pain of regret is worse than the pain of perseverance! Get strong! Get healthy, and pray!
Employer: "Do you have any commitments?" Me: "yes, I'm in the Flukey Loop cult and we have daily meetings." Employer: "So what's your availabili..." Me: "NON EXISTENT, I just said DAILY meetings."
I would like to see a follow up to this with some better ways to dodge these questions. The special graphics and muscle tone are quite lovely. I have found that telling prospect employers HR interviewers don't have tolerant thoughts about people who say, "You can't legally ask me that question" in an interview. It, understandably, looks like you're hiding something. Suing them is not an option, if you need a job, we, you need a job.
Keep up the great content man, I've definitely been hit with some of these questions. Theyre basically the questions that only give them reasons to pay you less and give you no opportunity to promote yourself
I had one interviewer ask me what year I graduated from college. I replied, “Why didn’t you just ask me how old I was?” Then, I told her that I was no longer interested in the position and hung up on her.
Age discrimination is the biggest issue/hurdle in IT. It's easy to get baited into a dream gig only to find that they change your entire job description within the first month. Once you get 10-20 years experience you can play hard to get and call the shots in interviews, but before then, it stinks. If you are young and 5 years or less right now, take what you can get within reason and bide your time. Paying dues sucks, but after the dues are paid, it's easy money from there. The more certs and programming languages you master, the less people can fuck with you in general. Always stay current.
Hey Josh, keep making more videos about how bad it is out there regarding employer and employee relationships. You are making a difference for the better. Our workforce has been ruined over the last several decades due to outsourcing and employer abuse towards their employees. Love your videos.
It wasn't for tech, but the last job interview I was at, they straight up asked me where else I was applying to, that my cover letter was written so well it was almost a red flag (wtf?), in like 3 different ways - why do you want this job??, and that they have a Disney mentality (yikes) in terms of customer service. They then lied to me about wanting to do a follow up interview. I wish I knew earlier that I shouldn't have had to answer half of their BS questions. Thanks for the info, Josh!
I've been asked my desired and current salary from companies and I never know how to answer them. Most of the time its on an online application and it's required😭
What I do is put "standard market rate" But I had one really cheeky employer, say don't put that and it must be a numerical number. This really fucks you over. Because if you under sell they will hire you dirt cheap. But if you over estimate they won't hire you. It's rare they will actually try to negotiate
As a regular interviewer we would ask your current salary and then your preferred for the current. If it's too low we look at your experience and qualifications and adjust it upwards to within the range of the budget. If it's too high we negotiate. We have awesome management! What I found out as a job seeker a few years ago. Online form through recruitment agency = you're screwed. They run a filter and if your desired salary isn't within their clients' range requirement then your cv doesn't even get pulled through, instead just dumped on their database (Recycle bin?)
For those that are curious, "professional organizations" are for people working in a particular industry or field. Such as ACM or IEEE for software/electronics engineering.
My answer to are you willing to do (insert other task not related to position) is simply, "For the right compensation I am generally willing to do all sorts of tasks."
The thing is. If they ask any of these illegal questions because they want you to work for no money on weekend on overtime. I would love to stay away from that company anyway! So if they ask me those illegal questions, I'd rather answer them and if the company decides not to hire me, then it's a good thing. I don't want to deal with retards at HR, I'd rather find a good company that fits me.
Do you have any weekend obligations? Yeah, my none-of-your-business takes up most of my weekends and weekdays after 5pm.
Lolol
I’d say ‘the working week is mon-fri, what work activities happen on the weekend...?’
My weekend's are filled up with me trying to start my own business so I dont have to work for the likes of you for the rest of my life.
Fuck! I want to say that if ever asked
Classic
HR: "I'm going to need to run your credit."
Dev: "Oh, I'm sorry, there must be some mix-up here. I'm applying for a job, not a loan."
Exactly! WTF
Betterteam: I need to ensure you haven't been part of the latest identity theft hack.
Sure you can if can I see the CEOs and the boards and my managers and the companies books as well.
I'll use this one at my next interview
Great. Credit reports are not relevant when applying for a job.
Every time I see/hear 'we are looking for a rockstar', I am itching to ask if they are going to provide rockstar salary and benefits.
When I read they want a rockstar it translates to "There's so much sh!t here we need someone we can pay poorly to deal with a lot of random non-core-work related BS and toxic people"
Being a "Rockstar" usually means you're doing everything - depending on what's mostly needed at that point and often doing it overtime. Not saying it's a bad thing, but with that term they're usually aiming for young fresh out of college people willing to work their asses off.
I'd just direct them to the nearest 7 Eleven beverage isle.
Rockstar benefits? Yes we have hookers and blow here
@@floatingchimney I hate how they twist meaning of words to total opposite. Rockstar means you already have quite long career doing shitty stuff, now you are star and everyone is there to serve your magnificent mind and talent. Never gonna happen in company, unless you start your own.
You're about to send a huge wave of interviewees with the knowledge to stand their ground!
Bold of you to assume we'll get interviews 😂
I have to wonder if doing this means not getting hired when a bunch of other people won't know and answer illegal questions.
@@eitkoml You cant refuse to answer a question on an interview , its a sure fire way to not get hired. That said with clever wordplay you can work around these 'illegal questions' . If you have friends in the industry have them interview you for practice , it helps if your friend can have someone you dont know interview you so it feels more real. IF you do not know the person , its a more realistic experience. I will even record my interviews sometimes (just leave your phone on record in your pocket) this way whether you get the job or not you can go back and listen and work on the areas you need to brush up on. Interviewing is an art , but there is a science to it.
Being a well-informed, friendly, and savvy interviewee is fine, but being stickler for anti-business regulations is a pretty easy way to not ever get hired. Just put yourself in HR's shoes a bit and see how you see yourself. You say "I can't answer that question because it's an attempt to discover my financial history, which is illegal according to H.R. blah blah act of Congress 1984." Yeah ok, so are you going to snitch on us when you see all the other regulations we're probably breaking every hour of our existence because we failed to retain a team of lawyers to navigate every basic business activity? No thanks, little reward vs. nearly unlimited liability, next candidate.
Better would be to understand why they want to know, which tells you what answer they want to hear, which tells you how to answer. "Have you ever filed for bankruptcy?" If you're interviewing for a coding job, not accounting, they just want to know if you're likely to be stable and not desperate for quick cash, so even if you did file for bankruptcy the details you give in your explanation can ease concerns and put you ahead of people who reveal nothing and are therefore a scary unknown. "I filed for bankruptcy 4 years ago after my divorce to restructure our debt and reduce interest payments that were no longer affordable. It was a difficult process but worked well I'm now back on my feet." OK, so even though you were bankrupt once you're obviously a logical and stable person who can make hard decisions and show resilience during difficult times, hired!
@@DDBAA24 If you can't refuse to answer a question on an interview, so then the only option is to lie, to say what they want to hear. All this process is bullshit, if they're getting those illegal questions, they deserve liars and bad persons to fuck them over. That's not how you avoid assholes, by being an assholes, that's how you get even more assholes, because you turn people into assholes, it's the only option they are left with. Suck to be in those places...
When job hunting becomes Sun Tzu’s Art of War in action
Rakin Khan
The same accent war that I fight everyday with brown scammers
@667Gullin Thanks for sharing , that was very insightful
absolute best comment
Literal shit.
Well said lol
My wife, when she was pregnant, worked 70+ "part time" hours a week at a Home-Health care agency called "Frontier services", where she got paid $9.50 an hour, no overtime. Worked on Christmas, no holiday pay.
2 weeks before she was due to give birth, she asked her superiors if she could get a couple weeks off for recovery once our daughter was born. You know what they said?
"Well we don't really do that here. Just apply after you have the baby and we'll rehire you". That was after she worked there for 10 months. 70 hours a week most weeks, 100 hours if you include the week before Christmas.
It seems like what they were doing is straight up illegal, but for people like us, the little people, trying to afford a lawyer and take them to court is impossible.
Moral of the story, as you say, companies won't be loyal to you, so why be loyal to them. Don't work harder than you have to and don't put in extra effort.
Born Stellar1337 that’s not legal
That sounds illegal. Though this varies from state to state, if you routinely work more than 32 hours a week and were originally classified as part time, you must be reclassified as full time.
Rules for overtime also vary from state to state. The general rule of thumb is you must pay hours worked, whereas some states will require time-and-a-half for hours exceeding 40 per week. Companies also may choose which holidays they observe, if any at all, and may require employees to work those days.
Maternity leave is still being argued in courts in many jurisdictions, but in the states that have laws governing it, the general rule of thumb is that employers must provide maternity leave and must guarantee your position will be held until you return.
This is one of those things for which I'd check the state's Labor Board. All this provided, of course, if you are in the US.
they mentioned that they knew it was illegal. The problem is even if they do something illegal, its incredibly difficult to actually get companies to be held accountable for their actions without enough money to back it up. For poor people, its just not possible to get a lawyer and sue them
I'm not sure what you and all these other people are talking about with not getting lawyers. There are SO many lawyers that will look at a case or rather have someone from their office look at the case and determine what the probability of winning and outcome will be and they take the cases on the basis of they only get paid once you win (if the case is good enough) and from what you describe it would be open and shut if there was any verifiable and documented evidence of the stuff you mentioned.
@@Xerxessinclair Yeah exactly. From what I heard, there are a lot of lawyers who take cases like this on a no-cure-no-pay basis. So essentially the lawyers are taking away some of your risk, and in return they'll ask for a higher amount. Which I think is fair - after all, it'll motivate them to try and win, and if you get half of something that's still more than all of nothing.
OP, I'd suggest you try and piece together all of the documentation you have, try and paint a picture that's as complete as possible, do some legal research for yourself and go talk to a lawyer about this if they're willing to do this on a no-cure-no-pay basis. I'd hate to see you and your wife get screwed like this. It's just not fair.
The worst that can happen if you go no-cure-no-pay is no cure.
For all my veterans: DO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS RELATED ABOUT DEPLOYMENTS, especially ANYTHING combat related. It WILL be an issue. I PROMISE. 💯
Ferrari Khan. I would tell them “ I signed an agreement in the service of non disclosure as what I did and where I went is still classified.
Information on working
HEAR! HEAR! | Let me tell you about it . . . and they asked to see the war wound, and then fainted. Put a chamber in that gun.😀
Tech company: “are you apart of any communities or have any social activities?”
Me: “I mean, I have a clan in pubg”
@Saint Bagelcel and pornhu... wait, nevermind
@Saint Bagelcel they can figure out if you're conservative, if u tell them that
If you're looking for a job in California, just tell them you're part of Antifa dual wielding bike locks
Insta-Hired!
Why do they insist on this
What's the importance of this
Joe Escobedo “So you’re a member of the Klan?🤔”
We're looking for a Rockstar Ninja Unicorn full-stack engineer.
Experience as CEO of Google a plus.
$30k
lmao, so true actually.
Then legendary "Purple Squirrel" Hunters... LOL
15+ years of experience is required
@@kilovolt2494 But you must be 28 or younger to apply.
Pet Cheetah true story is: once a while ago I have eyewitnessed a job posting for a dev position. They asked for “preferred 8 years of experience”, while the framework itself was around for only 5 years. So wait a sec, is it a very well hidden implication of hiring a creator of this framework? Nicely done, but imma ditch. Or most likely, HR had absolutely no clue whom do they need to hire, for what tasks, how much will that cost them. I’d say good 70% HRs are like that, which hurts companies in a long run a lot.
Talking during interview when:
Me: - So what is the budget?
Them: - It's confidential. What are your expectations?
Me: - Confidential
I'ma start using this.
That’s gold! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🤣🤣🤣
both write a number on a paper and swap them haha
Sorry, we can't hire you
Sorry I cannot share details of an on going investigation
You should flex your arms from start to finish in job interviews, to show dominance
And if they don't hire you, throw them around the room like a piece of Samsonite luggage.
Rude dude
Ataque dos BR malukoo...
Nods, actually if dedicating an entire video towards using humble brags isn't too much trouble...? Otherwise more displays of Armony please, I've been worried about him since, until now, we hadn't seen him after that 3rd season episode of Rick and Morty.
This would be unnecessary because the T pose is the proper way to show and/or assert dominance.
There was some reddit story I found a while back where someone was in an interview that went pretty badly, but on the employer's side instead. There was a lawyer sitting in on the interview. Eventually, one of these illegal questions came up, and the lawyer jumped in and said somethin' along the lines of 'don't answer that' or 'you can't ask that'. Interview continued a bit longer, and another illegal question came up. Lawyer just about lost it.
Age - You also have to be careful about what you say AFTER you get the job.
If you’re older, be VERY careful what you say around your coworkers.
I look at least 15 years younger than my age, so I can fit in with the other/younger employees. At one job, though, I told an older woman my age, because she was close to my age. My wife thinks she told others in the office, because it felt like attitudes towards me changed after that. People were less tolerant and less patient with my learning curve. Now, I keep my age to myself.
@CrIMson Red lol
In most cases, at least in Europe, job portals include obligatory fields that ask you to insert your date of birth.
@@Gaib_al_lisan but that's for HR purposes, and office co-workers don't know your age in most cases
I cannot believe how many people ask my age. I'm a woman and young and people ask me almost every time I meet a new person. I flat out say "Are you seriously telling me your mother never taught you not to ask a lady her age?"
It's weird - younger people get weirded out by working and hanging out with older people, but then, if you look younger, people don't believe you have experience and/or are lying about it.
The most dangerous question that will ever be thrown your way: Tell me about yourself.
I've actually been asked this plenty of times in interviews. What am I supposed to respond?
@@jamesthelivingplanet Who are you? where have you been? where are you planning on going? How does where you've been in the past translate to skills and experience you can apply to the new job? Are there any hobbies you enjoy doing in your spare time that provide skills that can translate to your new job, such as interpersonal communication, time management, paying attention to details, etc? What is your long-term goal (owning your own house, starting a family, etc) and how does the new job fit into your plan of achieving your long-term goal? Can you get along well with others? Can you modify your behaviors to match those of the "Company Culture"? If you get to choose between available jobs, why would you choose this job over any others that might be available?
When they ask you to tell them about yourself, recite information from your resume. Your name, your education, any certs, your career goals, the last places you worked, what tasks you performed there, anything that is relevant to the position.
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@williambarnes5023 I'll tell them "I'm a very detail-oriented person that values synergy, and my weakness is that I'm too perfect" lmao
exploit every loop hole. dodge every obstacle. penetrate the bureaucracy
@Pusalieth I wish I was in a position where I could have my own business. You don't need to squeeze maximum productivity out of everyone to make profit; you can make very significant income just by keeping your workers happy and keeping turnover rate under control.
Join a commune.
Join a commune.
THAT MAN IS BEING MUGGED!
Dunno why but that hyped me and made me want to do an interview right at this moment.
It took me years to figure out that the interview is a two-way street. Some really good advice in this video!
Not enough flexing, unsubscribe
The drug test thing blows my mind. Fly a plane, drive a bus, I get it, you get a drug test. But work at Target, Walmart? WTF?
Some of the roles require operating equipment but not the majority
Man, after watching this, I feel like going through a bunch of interviews with absolutely not intention of getting a job, just to play this game of hiring Jiu-Jitsu.
Gotta get that purple belt, fam
@@de132 Whoa! How did you know I was a blue belt?
@@zoommair I felt your energy
There’s nothing better than doing interviews to up your game. If they result in a job offer, they can open your eyes as to what you’re worth on the job market. If it is an on-site interview, it is interesting to see what they are doing differently, and if you would actually like to work there.
hi-ring-tsu
One of the most poignant interviews involved a guy asking, with a self-entitled smirk on his face, "So, why did you choose to apply to this company and what makes you think you deserve the position?" I let him know that I had never heard of the company before, and that a talent scout had found me and asked if I would be interested in the job. The smirk quickly faded to humbled dejection from the interviewer's face. Priceless!
Wait, what job is it?
Gamer Lost Janitor
@@DiddleSlip lol
Did you get the offer?
@@PrizmSeeRI did.
I've actually had a boss tell me to get a divorce because they were tired of my wife calling to see if I was ever coming home.
Fucking lol
well since all the men in the office (himself included) were either divorced or in their 2nd & 3rd marriages.
Men because it was a very old school office.
You choose your boss yeah?
I'd be like "Oh I'll have a divorce. This is my last day once I'm out of this office I'm no longer working for you. You don't deserve 2 weeks.
🤣🤣🤣
Back in 2003 or so, I saw an ad with a job requirement that included "more than 10 years Java experience". So, I sent them the list of all 7 (or whatever it was) people in the original Oak/Java team, and told them that I doubt that any of them would be interested in their crappy company that has no clue about the most fundamental things about Java.
lol It reminded me of the fastAPI post. the guy who created it has less than 1.5 years of experience and the job needs at least 4+ years.
The only question I gotta ask recruiters is *do you watch Joshua Fluke?* That’ll leave them shuddering.
lmao this is quality
Well it's not that bad. Now mix Joshua with CAMELOT331 and that'll leave them bankrupt. And shuddering.
Recruiters have told me they watch him, its interesting.
@@AaronWritesCode good. Take notes.
I did it and i got a ceo position under the condition that i make sure my employees dont get to know about Josh's youtube channel
Hiring bias re: age and family is certainly a thing. I've even noticed, at a certain point, companies are MORE likely to hire you if they think you have a family to support. They think you need the security and stability, and therefore you'll be less likely to leave that job.
You can also say the same the other way around, like Josh pointed out. It's a losing game all the time, every time.
I've been in a hiring situations before where this has been the final criteria used to select who was hired.
Mainly it was because the company felt they could help a parent in need.
This is why you have to be interviewing them to figure out what *they* want most and appear to be that person during the interview.
@@RevenantEverest This is extremely negative. You could say the opposite is true- it's a winning game all the time because companies are either going to prefer you for perceived family stability or youth. Life is just perspective.
You guys can't generalize every employer out there. So much depends on office and company culture, but..much depends on the hiring manager and job position. There can be circumstances in particular too. I once worked in a big company and my department had 11 people doing the work of 20 people. We had two of those 11 spots that were constantly turning over. And..it was always females in these spots. Once they hit the year to year and a half point, they quit. Reasons were always either: 1. Need to spend more time at home with kids or 2. Just got married and husband prefers I stay home. Ok. So..after losing like 10 people to these reasons, my boss told HR she wanted men in these 2 positions. I get it and to some degree I don't blame a company for wanting to avoid constant turnover. I get it.
I hate how they NEED to know where you worked every minute of your life and if you have a gap then you're unemployable??
Like wtf is that?? :(
If it's any consolation, *many* people have gaps in their employment history... so it's not like a person will stand out for it these days. Just be prepared to be asked to explain the gap and you should be fine.
its less of a problem these days. If they ask just tell them its because its a volatile job market so of course you have bounced jobs. Otherwise you wouldn't be applying to them and still be working your first job at wal mart which would indicate you have no ambition. Don't they want to hire ambitious people willing to take a risk to get a better job? I did find it strange when I did long haul trucking that on your application they would not allow you to leave gaps in employment and told me to fudge the dates together. As far as I am concerned a company who wants no job gaps wants people with no spine that will never ask for raises and never leave. If they are afraid you will leave because you have done it in the past they know how shit of a company they are.
Because "years of experience" is not a true metric of experience. It does suck though. Most people don't have to worry about it if they're being honest about their skillset.
It is not nearly so stark. I have a couple gaps, and it is not an issue. It is probably less of an issue for me because I have a few of positions with 4+ years, so the risk of me turning out to be someone who is job hops for the bad reasons appears to be less.
If you are purely in it for the money, you want to change positions every two years, either through internal promotion or changing jobs, in order to be racking up regular raises and newer responsibilities on your resume. But if you run into a bit of bad luck along the way, the hiring manager may see a bunch of 1 year stints, some gaps, and never having stayed in a position for any meaningful length -- that is something I would be less inclined to take the risk on.
Oh man. I have more gaps when the time periods when I was employed. Something like 5 years of work, 6 years of, well, chillin'.
I've been asked most illegal questions at most jobs
I have had been asked all these questions before. Companies ask these all the time and even put them on application
I'm not sure that making these questions illegal really helps anything. You can find out a bunch of these just by looking at the person being interviewed; age, race, sex, weirdness factor, tattoos, etc. and for the others... I'm really wondering why a company should not be able to ask about your finances or your marital status. There's some jobs that would seem to favor married people, or financially-savvy people, or unmarried, or women who aren't about to get pregnant, and it doesn't necessarily help workers when they're put into positions they're not suited for. Certainly doesn't help employees to have their productivity and achievements in the company hampered by unfit coworkers. Obviously HR should be looking for real data and not making assumptions based on age, status, etc. but if the interviewee is lying to get the job or simply isn't good at predicting future life events or has made massive recent changes that negate previous data, there isn't necessarily any data, so the assumptions are the valid remnant. Is it really good for us as workers if a woman doesn't share that she's trying to get pregnant, gets hired and trained for a job while she's trying to get pregnant, then gets pregnant, then quits to give birth and raise a kid? So the government says companies have to offer free job training to future moms now? Why?
Maybe they should have discriminated and hired the dad who will actually be working full-time and supporting his young family instead of spending several thousand $ training someone who then quits and is unable to do the job anyway and will not be supporting a family either. Companies lose money sometimes, fine, but you're passing up a worker who actually needs the job long-term to support multiple family members for someone who just padded her resume, got free training, and then may never work again anyway, and everyone else working in the company now has to do more work training someone else. Why is the government pushing this inefficiency into the system as a social good? The resources of a company could have gone to someone who needed it, but the government says you can't decide, so it didn't. There's plenty of jobs where a future-mom would be a great pick. I.e, jobs where she can bring a baby to work. There are jobs where men are discriminated against for their male parts by customers, i.e daycare centers, teachers, nurses. Why not let actual businesses make these choices themselves? I wouldn't want to work somewhere I'm unwanted anyway, I'd rather know when and why I'm unwanted so I can adjust accordingly instead of just blindly peppering every company with resumes and getting a bunch of vague rejections that teach me nothing. I'd rather know "we didn't hire you because we think you're an unstable alcoholic" so I know I have to scrub my 15-year-old Facebook page before the next interview.
@@xCDF-pt8kj why work for a place that ask this type of bs. Shud be last resort
Filtering people out by sex or marital status would only be valid for bona fide occupational qualifications.
@🚨 Thot Patrol 🚨 And who'd sue them? The desperate candidates who these scumbags can play their petty games with? Oh come on!
as for the "we are hiring other people, filling other positions can you do that in the interim?" - I got screwed over once, I was the only salesman for an entire branch of a company for ~6 months. But I turned it into a positive during salary negotiations - i asked "how many salespeople would you normally have?" "5" ok, so what are you offering me in pay? "xx/hr" that doesnt sound like the pay of someone who will be doing 5 peoples jobs, I would like {xx/hr}" they sucked it up and paid up. when they finally did hire other people they fired, and then attempted to hire me at 1/3 of the amount i made before. so, i asked them to pull the sales numbers. I had still be doing 5x the sales of all the other salespeople. I asked for 5x the amount I initially received. they said it wasn't in the budget, so.I didn't take it, and that entire branch closed for a month or so. I probably would have enjoyed being petty a little more if that branch had closed permanently. (oh and they had to hire 5 more people to make up for me not being there on top of what they already had)
actually I have been screwed twice come to think of it, at my most recent job before dev, I ended up doing Sintering(pulling things out of 600F ovens), IT, and General Maintenance(such as climbing in attics to fix lights or A/C units). - $14/hr, totally not worth it.
Nick Bueltel - Hearing how you stood your ground and the company paid a price for it put a smile on my face.
I made more at a call center than you did being a jack of all trades, and I was underpaid. hope you're making more now, bad jobs suck
Augustus Bohn yeah about 3x more decided to study software dev
Now that I've seen this, I realize how I was belittling myself in interviews...
Thank you dude, this channel needs more exposure!
I saw a programmer job listing for Home Depot and one of the job requirements was constant standing, sitting and bending. Ability to lift over 50 pounds.
Lmao
Let's be honest, bending over is implicit in the job requirement.
Those are the same requirements for a store stocker
sure when things get busy...it's all hands on deck.
@@jansa940 funny how soon its always busy and no new employees
in germany it is legal to lie when answering some questions, e.g. 'are you pregnant?'/'do you plan to have a family?' because these questions are illegal to ask
How would they know you lied about planning to have kids in the first place? Can't you just have a kid two years from now and gon"Oh, I wasn't planning it"
As a job applicant it is hard to not disclose information when they ask because you are really trying to land the job but I think you can mentally prepare yourself by rehearsing answers so you are not sidelined when they hit you with the dirty questions!
'Rockstar Attitude' - doesn't that mean taking lots of drugs, throwing your monitor into a swimming pool and storming out?
lol 😂
long ago I sat down with an old ssgt that pretty much told me that civvi jobs was 40% "resume wording", 20% attitude and 40% percent of look/act the part, he gave me a few loose examples: Mrap training we did in kuwait? "Leadership Training" that other time when we moved GSE across the flightline to the other side of the hangar? "Advanced Asset Management Skills" and those long hours cleaning rifles in the arms room? "Critical Task Assessment under Time Constraints" I mean the guy was a guru of civilian stuff, he have been in-out in-out of the service two branches and had like 4 MOS that he could pick and choose. Freak of Nature, spoke 4 languages and could pretty much get any job yet he choose to stay in and retire from the Army. Almost & years and everything he advised me works to the T, I mean don't lie saying stuff that you didn't do, just adjust the former mission objective to your current mission.
Seeking employment these days is a Kafkaesque nightmare.
“We are going to need to run your credit”
Me: There must be a mistake here. This is a transaction after which YOU will owe ME money, what is YOUR credit history like?
The extra mile bit at the end was golden, you should expand this into another video someday. I've been hearing this rockstar dev thing a lot lately... heh.
Oh and another tip: Watch for the people who are in the office while you walk around with the HR people. If you see them bored, or feel the place very tense, it isn't a good place to be. I was there, more times than I'd like to, and I can confirm it's a fact. In one of my past jobs, I was very excited, y'know, and finally I ended up just like the guy I saw when I joined who had been there for like 3 years or so and just didn't give a shit. It's like a mirror of sorts. So: Do your job, then have a life. Don't live to work, work to live.
I had a friend drop out of the interview loop at a company precisely because when they did the walk through of the office, everyone looked like they were being held at gun point. Nothing but abject misery in the whole room. Called her recruiter as soon as she left the office to say it wasn't going to be a good fit lol.
I've applied for several help desk jobs lately where they sounded interested but decided not to hire me after they found out I'm disabled. I don't need my legs to answer the phone and use a keyboard.
Damn this dude is like a software engineer... for interviews! He disects everything!
I try.
RE: Military Service
Q) Why were you discharged?
A) Because I didn't re-enlist. aka my contract expired
"Sorry this question is illegal, i refuse to answer"
"Wow what gumption! Youre hired!"
As Joshua said "If some company ask these quesions to you, you don't want to work for that company. That's a piece of crap company anyways"
🤣🤣🤣
@@luispresuel3499 that sums up like 90% of shit out there nowadays
Generally, if they start asking dodgy questions I walk out.
@Saint Bagelcel Problem is, depending on where you live and the position you're looking for, this type of company could be all you can find
@@andreiscutariu1035 That, plus in IT, people within the industry in the local area tend to know each other and talk quite a bit. Word could easily get around that you're someone who walks out easily and companies won't want anything to do with you as they might see it as a red flag
A good recommendation is taking negotiating classes, like ones on udemy or skillshare or whatever so that when you get to an interview you can manipulate it in your favor.
I had an interview where my time as active duty military came up and the guy asked if I ever killed anybody.
I'd be putting in a complaint real quick. That is never a question you ask someone who has been in military.
@Eduardo Rivas Yeah, no. If you asked that to me, or anyone from my platoon you would be on the ground pretty quick.
@Eduardo Rivas
>get punched
>"I-I-I'LL FUCKIN' KILL YOU B-B-BRO"
Actually pathetic.
Speaking as someone who has been in the military as well - he'd be justified to defend himself, just because some guy decides to get offended at a question, and then not only that, decides to physically harm the questioner, especially if there are multiple attackers, just because his feelings maybe got a little hurt for a moment. People can easily die from a single punch. Be it well trained professional fighters, or random people getting into street fights, there are many recorded deaths from one or two punches knocking someone down, and usually what causes it is the victim smashing their head on the ground.
It's a pretty common thing to be asked by people once they find out about someones veterans status anyway. Do I think it's always appropriate to ask? No. Would I generally prefer to not be asked it? Sure. Would I ever harm someone for the simple, ultimately harmless curiosity? Absolutely not. That's far more pathetic than someone defending themselves from a physical attack. "Oh no, someone asked me a question, I and all of my coworkers/friends now MUST beat them!"
If you don't want to "risk" talking about your experience in the military, (especially considering most people think everyone in the military is broken with PTSD and is a shooter), then don't bring up that you were in the military, simple as that. From my own personal experience and all of my friends who were also in combat arms or served in some combat oriented capacity, very few people actually get offended by it, but more often than not, you're probably just going to get some quip about killing kids or some joke like that, which, to most civilians, should never be joked about, but it's a pretty good way to put people off from answering questions like that, at the very least, and that humor is normalized within the military.
More often than not, it's people getting offended on other peoples behalf when things like this come up, and many times, in my own anecdotal experience, the offended person was just some guy who was maybe deployed somewhere for 6 months and sat in an air conditioned office every day or at worst worked in a capacity similar to being a mechanic where they actually did have to go outside in some heat occasionally, but in a safe area, on their base, and with practically a 0 percent chance of any harm coming to them, other than maybe tripping on their way to the nearest restaurant on base or something.
@@salt5999 the poet of your platoon
I'm sure you're pissing off recruiters 😂 PLEASE keep doing it 🙏🏽 This is solid info on a topic I've quietly complained about for years so I'll be using it effective today
Good stuff Fluke! I used to work in HR for a large company. Many of these things you’re saying are true.
What would you recommend to do as HR, refuse to answer or lie? Considering that refusing to answer would probably prevent you from obtaining a job you really want..
@@andreiscutariu1035 up
And the best way to avoid a toxic relationship is to not start it. Same goes for jobs. The market for junior dev is on our side. Don't sell ourselves short.
@@andreiscutariu1035 Maybe tell the truth? You're so stupid and so salty that you can't even assume that there's a better way then being an asshole or being a lier?
Who whould you hire yourself? Asshole, lier, or mayba a person who can tell the truth when asked a simple question?
@@gregt9608
Yet answering truthfully allows them to discriminate unfairly toward you when it's irrelevant what they asked you. Nice taking it up the ass.
You can ask if they are a US citizen if the job requires it. Many public sector positions (government jobs) require citizenship.
This isn't true. I contracted for govt job and almost the entire team of 30 people were Indian guys on a visa
@@kami-gun I said many, not all.
I always tell everyone: “say only and exactly what the company wants to hear. Not what you want to say.” Sad but harsh truth
depends on how desperate someone is for a job
if you aren't desperate and tell them only what they want to hear, you're the one who has to bear living and working that (likely) undesirable environment every single day
I get what you’re saying (better to have a job that sucks while looking for something better) but many people can’t convincingly lie their way through an interview.
11:51 I go to Sunday School every Wednesday too!
😂😂👏👏
Yo hello 😳
Damn you're here too??! Love the vids btw
11:30 - During one job interview, I was once asked if I played golf because computer scientists like it because it's "mathematical". I said no, I play softball (refer to my avatar) and if I wanted a mathematical sport, I would pick pool. I always felt that was a stupid question, but now I understand why he asked it. Very sneaky.
What kind of sneaky info was revieled from you knowing that you played softball instead of golf?
@@luispresuel3499 financial situation my dude, golf is very expensive to play.
@@karambiatos damn that's sneaky
@@karambiatos And will having money be an adventage or disadvantage?
Wait is the implication that golf is an old people sport? Because there’s a ton of younger golfers that I see around
The best part is that even though we know about these "illegal questions" and their implications, we're still stuck in the same hole not answering them as we do answering them. If a company asks you a question and you are reluctant to answer, that's going to give them some red flags that maybe you're not "the deal" that they want, so they don't hire you. Maybe in some situations it would be better to just answer the question, as it is that companies will be more afraid of what the _don't_ know about you, versus what they do.
Furthermore, companies have the upper hand in all situations. There will always be the few people who are willing to take shit from the companies just so they can become employed (which, in this day and age, most people will have to take what they can get), so if you're getting red flags from the company and you're not willing to answer certain questions or agree to certain terms, they're just going to dump you and find someone who is. Like you say, they're always going to take the "better deal", and that's all you can do
it's a giant pain in the ass, but I've had success by scripting answers to every possible question that I could be asked. It really worked. I feel that it should not be that hard to get a job, though. On the upside, i had the leg up in interviews because I was good at getting interviews. I had a bunch of job offers that way. Also I had to do a pre-show ritual like Usher and Beyonce to get into character. It's wayyy too much work but this is the solution.
One point about credit checks, especially when it comes to government agencies and/or companies that have government contracts, is that a credit inquiry might indicate whether you may be more susceptible to committing a fraudulent act and/or being blackmailed.
I also haze those "rock stat", "jedi", "master" idiocies, thank you for pointing that up. And also "working under prressure". Huge red flag!
the permitted questions are more invading
You could answer to "Emergency contact name" question something along "Yeah, I guess I could link you to my lawyer." XD
@Saint Bagelcel you are exactly on point! (It wasn't one of those "don't answer" interview questions, was it?)
I had 3 interviews this summer.
They all noped on me, the second they realized I was still in school. From the engineering firms down to the local gym.
It was a shitty summer nontheless because I couldn't get a summer job. college students are the main people who need a summer job
never EVER tell them you're "in school". Tell them "Oh I'm taking a class or two and slowly working my way up to an undergrad degree, but I definitely have time to work for you guys" - you know, that is IF you really need the job and dont mind the fact that the company you're being interviewed by discriminates against college students.
Check out your campus, they usually have job boards and groups dedicated to hire students during summer. I think my old college still has it last I heard.
ahh it's because hiring is expensive. They don't want to spend the money again in a few months when you head back to school.
@@09lz90 yeah that's bullshit. College students need summer jobs
And if I read one more article from boomers about how lazy we are... Where's the nearest AR15 shop
@Pusalieth I was full time at the time obviously. College students need to make money too
Man, going on an interview sounds like literally talking to an enemy
😂😂frfr
I went through multiple interviews a couple of years ago and got the job offer but at a much lower rate than what was originally posted. Then they tell me that their company policy was to give entry level salaries to people who are unemployed (I was retrenched and had been looking for a job for 6 months at that stage, had to sell most of my stuff and move out of my apartment). So I asked directly. "So if I had a temporary 2 hours per week job I could have received the advertised salary". They said yes, but that I also had to remember that I was unmarried, single without any dependants and I was living with my parents thus I could get by with a lower rate. At that point I pushed the offer away and took my 12 years of experience somewhere else.
Pure evil
Would love to hear your red flag interviews. Unfortunately the car thing. I live in a place with good public transportation. But jobs discriminate against people who use it. So offices that are downtown, right off the train station. Put in their job description. "You need a car. Public transportation isn't reliable transportation."
Even though I was late far less often than all my coworkers who had cars and would get caught in traffic every. single. morning. So all HR has to do in the job description. Is put "Requires a car". Even though it doesn't. But they're legally covered. I've gotten turned down from so many jobs for not having a car. I was getting to the point where I was about to start lying and then say "Oh my car broke down". On the first day of work. I ended up working from home anyway. But I'm absolutely going to lie if it comes up again. It's such bullshit. Thanks for the video Josh.
Victoria Morgan
Lie all the way.
？what is the deal with not having a car?
@@SuperhotdogZz Most American public transportation is awful, so most people think if you don't have a car, you're not gonna be regularly on time.
I feel like this happened to me at my last job, especially when it came to job transfer/promotion at this packing plant. Started as a Boxer, ended as a Boxer.
You are doing a great service to people talking about this stuff. I didn't know any of this until I was 5 years deep in my career as a software engineer. Keep up the great work!
They can't ask your age, but they can ask you to fill out a criminal background check that asks for your DOB. There are always ways around the rules to get the info they're after.
They also have a pretty good idea when they ask when you graduated from college.
@@DovidM- I never answer that question.
Are you comfortable with paying me the extra mile?
its funny how they mistake miles for hours ahaha, is this a marathon bra? you want me to do miles?
I had an interview once that asked me if I've had and mental health issues such as depression/anxiety they then said if I had I couldn't work for them
*vomits*
Genevieve55 why you saying vomits ??
@@johnschweiger1079 Because that company's behaviour is disgusting.
Genevieve55 ahhh yeah it was it was disgusting really
You're breathtaking; commentators of my TH-cam videos.
Your the bestest dude 👍👍
@Joshua Fluke You should make a video about: How to answer/handle each illegal (or worked around) question .
You are breathtaking for teaching us this.
Don't want to be personal and bring family into it... but I think that's important here because from what I see - your family failed badly because your father signed some NDAs/NCAs and then he thought he can't be bothered to keep it. After he was let go ... and it's such a injustice that you can't work in same place your entire life. So he thought "f* my responsibilities". But it turned out that people who he worked for were better in taking advantages of others that he was.
Generally for NDA or anti-competitive agreements you agree to get more money in exchange for some limitations imposed on you, so don't be a child and take at least a little bit of responsibility for what you sign. Especially when you do that for money.
And now you're being salty and you're teaching all these idiots how to fail in life by telling lies and semi-legally - fraud others. Doing them a huge disservice. Well maybe if people were honest and keep their promises - they wouldn't have to be so salty and miserable. It's like watching some ideologist of failed, communist regime from 1950 telling about a class war. Really you're so stupid that you think that you'll get a good job when you're on a war with the employer since day one?
You're breathtaking because of what? Unable to get a proper job, unable to adhere to what you signed, being an ass, being biased, hateful, a lier? Spreading this BS that everyone is there to get you? No one gives a shit as long as you're fullfilling your legally binding obligations. Just give me a break! BS like this will be exposed on fist occassion, probably not even by employeer but by other employees. Because no one sane will want to work with a person like you, because most people want to get the job done, get home and cash a nice paycheck.
You're young, get a grip instead of spreading this infantile BS that you can treat people who pay you like shit because the law allows it. Guess what, the law also allows the company that employs you - to treat you like trash. You wouldn't be able to sell some sorry-ass $2 burger with that shitty, toxic attitude. Which is typical for old loosers who tried to scam or fraud others, but failed.
@@gregt9608 i agree with what you say but some question are morally wrong like adking a female if she will be having a baby. So they can then skip her for someone else. I my self am looking for work for a month now and some places i applied for straight up want a pro for the pay of an internee.
Conclusion: hire a lawyer to join you in your next job interview. 😂
I have a career coach. One of my interviews I was asked about my family planning and she told me prior to the interview that certain questions are illegal. After I was asked about it, I had said I'm not at liberty to discuss family planning. The interviewer ended the interview and stormed off like a kid. After that, we reported it to the Labor Department and they got in trouble.
I have found it effective to avoid those kinds of skewed questions by having already answered some of them on my resume in a positive way.
Keep up your realism and authenticity Josh!!
Companies discriminate against introverts. Any company that has you take a personality test is looking for a preppy cheerleader personality type. Got rejected from a place I had worked for previously before they implemented a personality test. Fortunately I knew when the GM was going to be in and called them so naturally I got welcomed back.
Not looking for a job, nor interested in working for anyone ever again, was just curious to see if companies are still shady af when asking interview questions. Seems they've gotten shadier. Thanks for educating the younglings on the realities of life!
@@RandomTH-cam123 freelance and Twitch
"What's your current salary?"
"Same as yours."
That's fantastic, and you get the social leverage to ask theirs if they push for yours.
My company’s HR says that when they have called the applicant’s company (which is not often) to find out what they were paid, there is reluctance to divulge that information. Think of it: if you are calling your competitor, then it would be very useful to know what the competitor pays a UX developer with three years experience. Why should the competitor give that information out freely? I check what someone with a similar job title has stated on Glassdoor as their salary to gauge how above or below market the other company is.
I just take my current one and add 25% to it and then tell them I’m not looking to do a lateral move.
@@DovidM If another company would call my company to ask me about salaries, I would laugh in their face and close the phone. What goofs :))
The fact that they ask these questions, that are really or supposedly, illegal, yet still do, should tell one and all about the company!
I don't get why they would risk a lawsuit to ask illegal questions!
if you work a job, any job, if they ask you to go the "extra mile" make sure you either 1 dont do it or 2 get bonus money from it since they need it done but are to cheap or poorly managed to get it done right. never do extra anything for free
After my leg was injured and my employer made me "quit" I've never been able to fine a stable job that I can do. I've honestly just thought there might not be much of an option for me other then suicide. I'm no good in school and I can't get entry positions having aspergers syndrome or autism they don't want me working around customers, no one wants to train me for a job, and not being in good physical health... I can't get physically demanding jobs... Just standing as it is hurts a lot. I already feel like my life is just over.
Even if you are not talented, that just means you have to put in more time and effort than than someone who is. if you fail , try again. if you fail , try again. if you FAIL , try AGAIN. Doesn't matter if it is your thousandth time. Train the mind. Never quit because the pain of regret is worse than the pain of perseverance! Get strong! Get healthy, and pray!
Viridian hang in there buddy
Keep pushing and you'll get through it!
dont give up!
Try to figure out what kind of job would be most suitable for you and go in this direction. Focus on what is your strength and what you like
imagine putting watching porn as a hobbie on your resume lol
turn that frown upside down
Tell em you are working on your QA/editing/postproduction skills and have attention to detail
It's technically web development lmao
His advice is applicable in any job field. Not just tech jobs.
Employer: "Do you have any commitments?"
Me: "yes, I'm in the Flukey Loop cult and we have daily meetings."
Employer: "So what's your availabili..."
Me: "NON EXISTENT, I just said DAILY meetings."
Thanks for doing the “what they really are asking” video. Definitely would love a part 2 on your experience in interviews and the red flags you saw.
Holy shit, thank you, I keep seeing "coding ninja" job offers and it makes cringe to death that some people fall for that.
I am a coding ninja. You'll never see me or catch me working.
@@williambarnes5023 LOL
I would like to see a follow up to this with some better ways to dodge these questions. The special graphics and muscle tone are quite lovely. I have found that telling prospect employers HR interviewers don't have tolerant thoughts about people who say, "You can't legally ask me that question" in an interview. It, understandably, looks like you're hiding something. Suing them is not an option, if you need a job, we, you need a job.
Fuuuck I was so naive almost all of these things were asked to me on my first job.
I was once asked in a job interview whether I owned a car, for a job that didn't require driving. I had no idea that was illegal.
I u say “u can't ask that”，well “no job for u”
Pretty much. They will not hire you because of discrimination, but then play the "oh well we found more suitable candidate" card.
“Well screw you, I don’t need your crappy job”
And walk out
Keep up the great content man, I've definitely been hit with some of these questions. Theyre basically the questions that only give them reasons to pay you less and give you no opportunity to promote yourself
I had one interviewer ask me what year I graduated from college. I replied, “Why didn’t you just ask me how old I was?” Then, I told her that I was no longer interested in the position and hung up on her.
I feel like this can be great relationship advice too
Its is boo
I've started asking questions to my employer. Raises, growth, etc and they don't like it one bit.
Age discrimination is the biggest issue/hurdle in IT. It's easy to get baited into a dream gig only to find that they change your entire job description within the first month. Once you get 10-20 years experience you can play hard to get and call the shots in interviews, but before then, it stinks. If you are young and 5 years or less right now, take what you can get within reason and bide your time. Paying dues sucks, but after the dues are paid, it's easy money from there. The more certs and programming languages you master, the less people can fuck with you in general. Always stay current.
yes. I too "go to sunday school every wednesday"
Hey Josh, keep making more videos about how bad it is out there regarding employer and employee relationships. You are making a difference for the better. Our workforce has been ruined over the last several decades due to outsourcing and employer abuse towards their employees. Love your videos.
I had a government internship run my credit back in college, the thing was, I didn't even have a credit card back then, but still got the internship
This might be old and even off topic but availability is something that is needed in the service industry for scheduling.
Yeah whenever I see the work “rockstar” in a job ad, I want to LOL
It wasn't for tech, but the last job interview I was at, they straight up asked me where else I was applying to, that my cover letter was written so well it was almost a red flag (wtf?), in like 3 different ways - why do you want this job??, and that they have a Disney mentality (yikes) in terms of customer service. They then lied to me about wanting to do a follow up interview. I wish I knew earlier that I shouldn't have had to answer half of their BS questions. Thanks for the info, Josh!
I've been asked my desired and current salary from companies and I never know how to answer them. Most of the time its on an online application and it's required😭
What I do is put "standard market rate"
But I had one really cheeky employer, say don't put that and it must be a numerical number.
This really fucks you over. Because if you under sell they will hire you dirt cheap. But if you over estimate they won't hire you. It's rare they will actually try to negotiate
Yes trickiest question
Ask their budget
As a regular interviewer we would ask your current salary and then your preferred for the current. If it's too low we look at your experience and qualifications and adjust it upwards to within the range of the budget. If it's too high we negotiate. We have awesome management!
What I found out as a job seeker a few years ago. Online form through recruitment agency = you're screwed. They run a filter and if your desired salary isn't within their clients' range requirement then your cv doesn't even get pulled through, instead just dumped on their database (Recycle bin?)
not answering can be awkard. just say a higuer number than it really is and ask for even more. if they are really intrested they will try to negotiate
For those that are curious, "professional organizations" are for people working in a particular industry or field. Such as ACM or IEEE for software/electronics engineering.
My answer to are you willing to do (insert other task not related to position) is simply, "For the right compensation I am generally willing to do all sorts of tasks."
The thing is. If they ask any of these illegal questions because they want you to work for no money on weekend on overtime. I would love to stay away from that company anyway! So if they ask me those illegal questions, I'd rather answer them and if the company decides not to hire me, then it's a good thing. I don't want to deal with retards at HR, I'd rather find a good company that fits me.
“Go to Sunday school every Wednesday “ lol
Listen to this man...he speaks the truth..I have no patience for company corporate culture.
Yep. Be wary of an employer that tries to get you to work two positions "temporarily."
How do you respond to that