GOD (The Bible) is Pro-Choice

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  • After spending 30 years as a fundamental Evangelical Pastor and going through my deconstruction, my views on so many topics have changed.

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  • @theoleadventurer1199
    @theoleadventurer1199 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The fact is that as the common people got more educated, they had to change things in the bible.

  • @sadskytristeciel1439
    @sadskytristeciel1439 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Brother, I love your mustache and what you do. I will only suggest, if you permit, to add a compressor fx (found in many software) so it attenuate when you talk loud. You're peaking and are close to saturation, this make your sound harsh. You talk soft then loud, like a preacher..., lol. It always bothered when I was a Christian, but I understand and respect your style. Btw, a compressor would only compress the peak and then you can average the output, which we call make-up gain. You will still sound louder, but more in a subjective way. Because man, I keep riding the volume when listening to you. When you talk normal then pop up talking loud, it can be distracting and tiring to the ear. Why do you thing some preacher talk loud or yell? I think it's just part of the show and to inspire fear. Think about it. Again, thank you for what you do brother. It was nice to see you with Seth. If you need some help, please don't hesitate.

  • @cz1hf
    @cz1hf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    So if changes are made to this book over time, who gets to decide on the changes. And more importantly, WHY are there changes? If this book is the "perfect" word of god, changes would indicate it's imperfect. If we agree it is imperfect, than what else needs to be changed and when does it stop.

    • @timmygibsonkc
      @timmygibsonkc  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@cz1hf exactly

    • @ChaiChai1965
      @ChaiChai1965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The church altered it. The Torah has never changed. The Isaiah scrolls are the same today as the ancient ones. It doesn't mean anyone needs to believe them, but the Jews have never changed the Torah. Christians mistranslated it, deleted passages, added to it, etc. Annoying and sad.

    • @aaronparker1221
      @aaronparker1221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@brianmichael9397 Just one easy example is John 8:7-11. That verse was added many hundreds of years later. IT DOESNT BELONG IN THE BIBLE AND YET THERE IT IS. one of the most famous passages and is a forgery!! 😂

    • @aaronparker1221
      @aaronparker1221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @brianmichael9397 It's the principle of the matter. I don't give a rats ass if it's "theologically compatible." It's a FRAUD. Quit with your gymnastics dude for real.

    • @aaronparker1221
      @aaronparker1221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @brianmichael9397 What church? They're 30,000 denominations and not one of them agree with each other about the Bible. It's complete chaos and confusion. Your god is the author of confusion if his own people are confused by his book.

  • @TunziSNORT
    @TunziSNORT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    EXACTLY Timmy. We must support the Human Dignity of Women and demand bodily autonomy for them. American Men better stand up for equality or they will be known as the American Taliban.

  • @areneesouder
    @areneesouder 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact that the Bible says it's "the Breath of Life that makes a living soul." Nothing about the moment of conception. So we can't count on a fetus having a soul, until it breathes. And these people have to believe that God is a stupid idiot,if he knows everything, and knows that the fetus is going to be miscarried or aborted,yet still sends a soul into it. Why? Just to mess with us? Challenge us? Hahaha. I believe that all of creation has the "spark of God"within, that Spirit is in everything, everywhere, always, but just because the energetic field responds to it,as it does to everything, doesn't mean we're talking about a living human being with an eternal soul and conscious. I'll leave it there for now.

  • @JarrodMiller-z7j
    @JarrodMiller-z7j หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is also a verse that talks about making a cheating wife drink bitter water to abort her illegitimate child. I don't know which book, but it's in there.

  • @Bosse_C
    @Bosse_C 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    i enjoy your content. Good audio. Great video.

  • @ZippyTripped
    @ZippyTripped 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My favorite thing is watching people discuss whether or not I deserve human rights. There shouldn’t be a question that I should own my own reproductive choices. It’s gross that it is a topic at all. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

    • @Steven-hq3go
      @Steven-hq3go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If you choose to engage in baby making activity, you aren't to kill the growing child in you. Nobody has the right to unlawfully kill another because it inconveniences them
      What about the rights of the unborn?

    • @nyxcole9879
      @nyxcole9879 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly 💯

  • @stevenbatke2475
    @stevenbatke2475 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    With the modern reading being “to give birth prematurely”, why would a penalty be issued for a born, healthy baby, born early? Makes no sense.
    The older reading makes more sense that it’s a miscarriage.

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      True. I was premature as were 4 of my 7 kids. We are healthy (all 4 of my preemies are healthy, educated adults with morals and I'm healthy, educated, professional, morally upright, & almost 50 years old)...

    • @Brad4083
      @Brad4083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm guessing that a premature baby would have little chance of survival in those days.

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Brad4083 possibly. In Biblical times, they didn't have our medical advances.

    • @ibrahimelmasry-z3k
      @ibrahimelmasry-z3k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamellfoster6029 🌹🌹🌹🌹ربنا يفرحك باولادك ويخليهم لك

  • @shizuwolf
    @shizuwolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How about the verse that says a woman can't learn anything unless it comes from her husband? 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 I think

    • @Nick_Lamb
      @Nick_Lamb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's not what the verse is saying. It is talking about interpreting prophecy.

  • @johnmiltner9842
    @johnmiltner9842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He is indeed pro choice! And if you choose to sacrifice children to Satan, you shall pay!

  • @TheVioletMaze
    @TheVioletMaze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After reading these comments, it feels like someone has a lot of accounts and is copy/pasting their comment. Lol I hope it boosts the algorithm.

    • @theoleadventurer1199
      @theoleadventurer1199 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After reading your comment about copy/pasting , I feel like your not that smart.

  • @oldfirelady4411
    @oldfirelady4411 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also reads about the same in the KJV which dates back to 1611.

  • @glerbus9561
    @glerbus9561 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    HUH!?! this is saying that if you do something that causes the death of the child, the person who kills the child, will be punished, the fine that the man can give may include the aggressor's life, abortion would be the modern equivalent, these verses are pro-life

    • @Steven-hq3go
      @Steven-hq3go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You only have to see this guy's tattoos to see how liberal he is

    • @TunziSNORT
      @TunziSNORT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You parrot a falsity

    • @glerbus9561
      @glerbus9561 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TunziSNORT i quote a truth

  • @TyronSmith-yo5tt
    @TyronSmith-yo5tt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yhwh is pro his choice and no one else's.

  • @ItsMeNanaD71
    @ItsMeNanaD71 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Read the Bible in Greek & it’s an entirely different book. Most people think the disciples were grown men yet they were actually teenagers. We’ve been worshipping a book written by teenagers in antiquity. Period. If you start to research any Greek Mythology (simply meaning told orally rather than written before we invented writing & alphabets) you’ll see the Bible is simply plagiarism from previous mythology. And, YHWH IS a god…A god….but there are multiple in the mythologies. He was only ONE of them, the one of storms & war. You can google all of this. Just google the Greek root word for ETERNITY & read the original definition…..😢
    SEEK & YE SHALL FIND

    • @timmygibsonkc
      @timmygibsonkc  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ItsMeNanaD71 Love it! Thanks for sharing.

  • @Parasaurolophus476
    @Parasaurolophus476 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey, just discovered your channel after listening to your interview with Seth Andrews. Great stuff!

    • @timmygibsonkc
      @timmygibsonkc  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Parasaurolophus476 Thank you!

  • @exvangelicarol5336
    @exvangelicarol5336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My sweet Mom was so young and in poor health back in the 60s when I was born. I wish with my whole heart that she could have had a choice whether to bring me into this world. And that she would have felt empowered and supported no matter what. Her life and her well being have always been the priority for me.
    God just doesn't seem to be pro-life at all. He is killing babies all the time in the buybull. It is a special hypocrisy that the religious right decided to pick abortion as the main wedge issue to serve the political agenda. I remember the 80s when they were trying to choose between abortion, casino gambling, or porn. lol. thx for another great video! :)

    • @timmygibsonkc
      @timmygibsonkc  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@exvangelicarol5336 Thank you!

  • @cosmicproductionsone7112
    @cosmicproductionsone7112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When it comes to God being pro-choice or pro-Life, Christians always say ' oh it means God is against abortion' ...it never occurs to them that pro-Life means that God is for every living person or living being and its not just about abortion ! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zeus read the Bible and his only comment was "WHO WROTER THIS PIECE OF SHIT".

  • @Brad4083
    @Brad4083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don't think this passage in Exodus suggests that God is pro-choice. In those days, women didn't have much of a choice, did they? Rather, this passage merely indicates that a fetus did not have the same value as a living, breathing person.

    • @robertmorgan7698
      @robertmorgan7698 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Back then a woman was property. Also, children were property and if you had an unruly child you were to kill that child(Deuteronomy 21:18-21). 3500 years ago children didn't even have souls until they had taken the breath of life into them.
      Biblically, a fetus is a product of a mans property and destroying it is due a fine.

    • @aaronparker1221
      @aaronparker1221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No shit sherlock

  • @ginafrancis4950
    @ginafrancis4950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Timmy, What do you make
    of NIVs take on Numbers 5:11-31? Seems ok with the aborting process too albeit in a very superstitious way.
    I believe a woman, as an autonomous human being, has the right to choose. Why are we still looking to the bible, an Iron age over 2000 year old book that says women are the property first of their fathers and then of their husbands, for living lives today that have come so far IMO from the backwards and superstitious beliefs of the past?
    Thank you for keeping things real.

  • @hax_venom5180
    @hax_venom5180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This verse has nothing to do with abortion

    • @aaronparker1221
      @aaronparker1221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Life begins at the first breath. Read your bible

    • @hax_venom5180
      @hax_venom5180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronparker1221 let me get the verse i wanna read it in context

    • @aaronparker1221
      @aaronparker1221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @hax_venom5180 Genesis...God breathed life into Adam's nostrils and Adam was born as a human being. The very first introduction of humans in the Bible!

    • @hax_venom5180
      @hax_venom5180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronparker1221 but what does it have to do with killing babies in the womb?

    • @aaronparker1221
      @aaronparker1221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @hax_venom5180 The point is: regardless of what you or think about it being a "baby" in the womb, the Bible makes it clear that LIFE begins at the first breath and has pretty much nothing to say about the issue of abortion. I don't believe the Bible, but that's what it fuckin says.

  • @micheleinfantado8305
    @micheleinfantado8305 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very interesting

  • @CMKFilmz
    @CMKFilmz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Numbers 5:11-31

  • @ibrahimelmasry-z3k
    @ibrahimelmasry-z3k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Strange and illogical verses. Thank you. Unfortunately, there are many very fantastic texts. There are many changes in the printing of the Holy Book(josbil) in Arabic every period to avoid criticism from Muslims. The church changes a word or a sentence to deceive Muslims.

    • @Steven-hq3go
      @Steven-hq3go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Qur'an teaches that the Bible is from God, and that it is all true.

    • @ibrahimelmasry-z3k
      @ibrahimelmasry-z3k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Steven-hq3go Yes, the Quran teaches us that God sent thousands of prophets to all nations and to all peoples, so that the prophets would guide them to the path of God. Of course, every prophet would teach people the teachings of God and the book of God. All the books are from God and they are correct and contain guidance and light. But with time, the followers of each prophet add writings and teachings and change the books. My greetings to you.

  • @cz1hf
    @cz1hf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why are we following a book, whose ideas are based on ancient thinking?
    With constant advances in ideas and technology, its down right foolish to consider anything what sinple minded people had to say.

    • @Steven-hq3go
      @Steven-hq3go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where are you progressing to? Everything in recent times progressive turns to crap

  • @totonow6955
    @totonow6955 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which god? From where? From when?

    • @Steven-hq3go
      @Steven-hq3go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The one true and only God of Abraham. Hence Abrahamic religion, for Christians of the Old and New Testament.
      I think you knew the answer but asking because you try to equate the one true God as limited because of the existence of other pagan religions which is a logical fallacy

  • @oklandon09
    @oklandon09 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @InspiringPhilosophy go ham

  • @824thor
    @824thor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I laughed when you said "Cuss and discuss in the comments". In my humble opinion, I agree with you. Women should have free agency over their bodies and the Government should not!

    • @Nick_Lamb
      @Nick_Lamb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At what point should free agnecy be limited?

    • @Steven-hq3go
      @Steven-hq3go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Women shouldn't have free agency to kill a separate person growing inside of them, in 99.99% of cases was her choice to conceive.

    • @824thor
      @824thor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Steven-hq3go Thanks Steven for your response.

    • @824thor
      @824thor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nick_Lamb God gives us 100% freedom of choice.

    • @Nick_Lamb
      @Nick_Lamb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @824thor That is not so, God lays down various limiting principles for people to follow, so freedom of choice is not freedom from consequence. If that is your position, then at what point is murder wrong? It is just the murderer exercising their free choice and we have 100 percent free choice...

  • @hermanessences
    @hermanessences 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That verse is notorious for being ambiguous and vague, both in Hebrew and Greek.
    I don't think the Bible actually says when life begins. So imo, one should stay on the side of caution.

    • @johnballou1332
      @johnballou1332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually it does.. at conception

    • @lanefunai4714
      @lanefunai4714 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jeremiah

  • @tyronrichardson1037
    @tyronrichardson1037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is heresy. God forbids murder

    • @TheVioletMaze
      @TheVioletMaze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      God is a murderer. And he asks people to murder. And to murder a lot. Like the entire population of the canaanites. If you think about this, he asked them to murder men, women, children, babies and pregnant women.

  • @revdavidpeters
    @revdavidpeters 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May God have mercy on your soul.

  • @kellyzolinskiw4890
    @kellyzolinskiw4890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Praying for you sir! What you are saying comes down to "wanting your cake, and eat it too."

  • @Insomni-Man
    @Insomni-Man 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dumb