Here in the U.K we don't have laws against fuelling our tractors up. Even if there was nobody would obey them, you could say it's a rule and a constant war between farmers here who can have the most horse power and who has the better tractor. I have a New Holland TS90 that we have fuelled out to 110hp on the shaft and about 120ish Hp on the engine. We didn't have the dealer fuel her up too far because we wanted to allow room for when the Engine is worn in thust giving her another couple horse power and only the last 2-3 years she smokes a little when she's starting up when she is running then she doesn't blow any smoke at all.
yes we do. if the ministry ever introduced a test your machine could fail. if you don't go too high you might be ok. iv worked for a CaseNewHolland dealer for over 15 years.
Dyno time with Ted, I'm local and would love to know when the next dyno day is so I can bring my tractor and get a TED Tune. I know why you were the top dealer, no-one sold more power for less.
trying to find someone with a dyno for a tractor to make the mods seems to be the issue. I'd love to turn up my little l2800 just 2 hp would more likely help with using a tiller of 5 foot rather than a tiller of 4 ft which wont cover the tracks any thoughts? or am I thinking wrong?
Thanks for the video guys! I have a 2000 TL90 and the cap is off the screw. I think I'm going to get it dyno'd and see where she's at. Would you say 95 at the PTO would be safe for hay making without damaging it in the long term? Thanks
I'm getting to much pressure in the overfill line to the tank. What would cause the preasure in the tank? The fuel coming in is a lot of air bubbles in it and it sprays fuel out of the fuel cap. I've replaced 4 caps it's not the cap.
Will this work on 2019 non turbo John Deere. My tractor is 25hp but drivetrain is identical to the 32hp version including compression ratio. I would like to take it up to the 32 if possible. I don’t want to go farther and hurt it though.
I see a lot of newer tractors using the same engine and turbo combo for multiple hp ratings for the same product line, but different hp models. They have all the fancy stuff for tier 4 compliance though, and I am curious how much is really different between all the motors in the same model line. Is it just the fuel pressure like in this video, or is it a programming change too? there seems to be a lot that is the same, yet a lot that MAY be different. In particular I am referencing LS tractors. There is a 4100 series, that has 40 - 55 hp models in 5 hp increments with the same turbo, and the same engine, on the same frame and transmission. What is the real difference for the thousands that you pay extra? I am all for a mom n pop making more for a better product, but if there is no difference except the turn of a screw, seems we, the consumers are being charged thousands more for 10 minutes of labor difference, IF this is the only real difference. Thanks, Brian
You are so right about the tractor companies using the same displacement motor for 5 - 10 and 15HP jump in three or four different model tractors. The tractors are all the same size and use all the same parts. The cost for the bigger HP motor is more than just a few thousand dollars. I heard it was done by electronic programming. It very well could be done this way that I just saw in this video. There are companies selling an adjustable programming chip switch for around $400.00 that can kick up the HP for certain model tractors by up to 25%.. What these guys just did here was to kick up the PTO HP from 70 to 107 HP. That is an incredible 50% boost in PTO HP.
I recently purchased an LS 4145. I paid an extra grand for the 45hp over the 40. Same engine, turbo, chassis etc! I inquired and my dealer told me that it's in the programming. But a dealer would say that so they would make the money!
more fuel has a cooling effect on the motor. and 2 the bigger motors have benefits that one don't have like torq retention it takes a lot more to slow 6 cylinders than 4. we run mainly 100+hp 6cyl motors and they do better on fuel as they don't have to work as hard to make hp. I say all this as I've been around machines all my life and witnessed it first hand. I've run deere 6420's up against 2950's and the 6cyl with fuel turned up does better at pulling and fuel economy.
scott offerle more fuel does not have a cooling effect on diesel. It raises exhaust gas temperatures which destroy an engine. To make efficient power you raise the boost and fuel to suit.
scott offerle I think your confused with a petrol engine. As more petrol injected provides a cooler burn. And also how would the turbo charging of a diesel engine raise egt since boost provides the cooling effect opposed to a petrol engine, more boost equals more heat. More diesel will provide a cooling effect at extremes such as pulling tractors where an extreme amount of diesel is injected into the cylinder .
yes it would. but if you turn it up too high you could damage the trans/pto clutch packs. because under heavy load the clutch could slip instead of dragging the engine down.
Revs will make you go faster. 7810 which have 30kph gear box with teh screw clean out and reving her chops off was able to pass the 40kph 8240 and also tyre diameter will help speed your tractor some also
@@comeauce well first off my skid steer only has 17hp and I have a snow plow on the front my butt dyno works great but I can also see the difference when it's working a load
@@comeauce right started with half turns till I got SMOKE LOL then backed it of a 1/4 till it was a bit of smoke was only seen under full load for me it was pushing snow there's a sweet spot
That would seem logical but not as simple as that as I spent a considerable sum converting the tractor to make it look like a steam engine. I was thinking that tractors in the say 80, 90 and 100hp ranges were working off similar diesel pump installations. The only difference being the settings in the pump to achieve the different horsepower outputs. Is it possible thus to have the pump adjusted to lower the HP and thus save on fuel?
If you were a little better at showing what you are doing with better camera work it would be a lot more informative..but even with your vast experience it’s still not clear what you are doing
true, but sometimes you just need this little extra hp for a job, you arent going to buy a whole new tractor for that one thing now are you? (at my job we needed a bit more hp for the feederwagon and you just arent going to buy a biggger tractor for that)
Yall guys are crazy in the best way! Love yalls videos, Thanks!! From upstate S.C.
imma go up a little more,
wise words, I like this guy
Yall guys are so help full
Enjoy you folks and look forward to doing business with y'all in the near future.
awsome i didnt know you guys was this close to me!
Very cool video!
Thanks for the video I have the red version of this tractor
🤣🤣 love it, from the south, Arkansas 💯💯
Power!
Here in the U.K we don't have laws against fuelling our tractors up. Even if there was nobody would obey them, you could say it's a rule and a constant war between farmers here who can have the most horse power and who has the better tractor. I have a New Holland TS90 that we have fuelled out to 110hp on the shaft and about 120ish Hp on the engine. We didn't have the dealer fuel her up too far because we wanted to allow room for when the Engine is worn in thust giving her another couple horse power and only the last 2-3 years she smokes a little when she's starting up when she is running then she doesn't blow any smoke at all.
yes we do. if the ministry ever introduced a test your machine could fail. if you don't go too high you might be ok. iv worked for a CaseNewHolland dealer for over 15 years.
i stand corrected.
TM 125 well over 200 horse
We gently remove the cap…..with a hammer 😂
Dyno time with Ted, I'm local and would love to know when the next dyno day is so I can bring my tractor and get a TED Tune. I know why you were the top dealer, no-one sold more power for less.
trying to find someone with a dyno for a tractor to make the mods seems to be the issue. I'd love to turn up my little l2800 just 2 hp would more likely help with using a tiller of 5 foot rather than a tiller of 4 ft which wont cover the tracks any thoughts? or am I thinking wrong?
Yeah trying remember from the old day can be hard for you
Thanks for the video guys! I have a 2000 TL90 and the cap is off the screw. I think I'm going to get it dyno'd and see where she's at. Would you say 95 at the PTO would be safe for hay making without damaging it in the long term? Thanks
One thing thats hurting diesel engines ,Is the Cetane ratings on fuel.Some fuel not properly detonate .It barely will burn in a fire.
107 PTO HP out of 238 cubic inches! Wow. My Cockshutt 1850 is 92 PTO HP out of 354 cubic inches.
I'm getting to much pressure in the overfill line to the tank. What would cause the preasure in the tank? The fuel coming in is a lot of air bubbles in it and it sprays fuel out of the fuel cap. I've replaced 4 caps it's not the cap.
hi i have a tl70 do you know if this fuel increase is possible on this tractor too its a 2000 model ?
Will this work on 2019 non turbo John Deere. My tractor is 25hp but drivetrain is identical to the 32hp version including compression ratio. I would like to take it up to the 32 if possible. I don’t want to go farther and hurt it though.
Does it run on a higher rpm at idle after you turned up the fuel?
Do you have to have a,dyno to do this I've got a tl90a
I have a TS110. It has a Delphi pump. Can it be turned up the same way
Do you actually need a dynamo
How can I do this on an old CAV pump?
We have a ts100 that’s lazy only 4500 hrs no smoke what would you suggest
Can you help me turn the fuel on perkins engine in a landdinni
Take My Money
Playing with the juice box lol went from a 2 bottom plow to a 6 bottom they had 1500 more pounds on a little tractor would be bad
I see a lot of newer tractors using the same engine and turbo combo for multiple hp ratings for the same product line, but different hp models. They have all the fancy stuff for tier 4 compliance though, and I am curious how much is really different between all the motors in the same model line. Is it just the fuel pressure like in this video, or is it a programming change too? there seems to be a lot that is the same, yet a lot that MAY be different. In particular I am referencing LS tractors. There is a 4100 series, that has 40 - 55 hp models in 5 hp increments with the same turbo, and the same engine, on the same frame and transmission. What is the real difference for the thousands that you pay extra? I am all for a mom n pop making more for a better product, but if there is no difference except the turn of a screw, seems we, the consumers are being charged thousands more for 10 minutes of labor difference, IF this is the only real difference. Thanks, Brian
You are so right about the tractor companies using the same displacement motor for 5 - 10 and 15HP jump in three or four different model tractors. The tractors are all the same size and use all the same parts. The cost for the bigger HP motor is more than just a few thousand dollars. I heard it was done by electronic programming. It very well could be done this way that I just saw in this video. There are companies selling an adjustable programming chip switch for around $400.00 that can kick up the HP for certain model tractors by up to 25%.. What these guys just did here was to kick up the PTO HP from 70 to 107 HP. That is an incredible 50% boost in PTO HP.
I recently purchased an LS 4145. I paid an extra grand for the 45hp over the 40. Same engine, turbo, chassis etc! I inquired and my dealer told me that it's in the programming. But a dealer would say that so they would make the money!
more fuel has a cooling effect on the motor. and 2 the bigger motors have benefits that one don't have like torq retention it takes a lot more to slow 6 cylinders than 4. we run mainly 100+hp 6cyl motors and they do better on fuel as they don't have to work as hard to make hp. I say all this as I've been around machines all my life and witnessed it first hand. I've run deere 6420's up against 2950's and the 6cyl with fuel turned up does better at pulling and fuel economy.
scott offerle more fuel does not have a cooling effect on diesel. It raises exhaust gas temperatures which destroy an engine. To make efficient power you raise the boost and fuel to suit.
Only on a turbo engine will it raise egts and yes it has a cooling effect
scott offerle I think your confused with a petrol engine. As more petrol injected provides a cooler burn. And also how would the turbo charging of a diesel engine raise egt since boost provides the cooling effect opposed to a petrol engine, more boost equals more heat. More diesel will provide a cooling effect at extremes such as pulling tractors where an extreme amount of diesel is injected into the cylinder .
i wonder if this would help on my tl80 non turbo
yes it would. but if you turn it up too high you could damage the trans/pto clutch packs.
because under heavy load the clutch could slip instead of dragging the engine down.
I'm trying to bump up 200 rpms on a T6.180 is it possible and how?
Unlikely as they are common rail injection, however you may be able to re flash the ecu to alter the permitted values
very wordy ...
Does that also make the tractor go faster?
should do depends on the tractor i had a friend that got a ford 3600 upto 48kmph
Revs will make you go faster. 7810 which have 30kph gear box with teh screw clean out and reving her chops off was able to pass the 40kph 8240 and also tyre diameter will help speed your tractor some also
you guy's are dangerous
10 11 12 ,13 is 1/2 inch johnny peanut
by the 32 minute mark still with no smoke I was praying you weren't leaning it out instead of adding it due to no smoke even at the 100hp mark.
Does this make the tractor faster or could you show us how to make them faster
Any benefit to doing this on a non turbo tractor?
Yep. I have a new Holland ls125 skid steer and it's a 3cyl non turbo and it made a huge difference
@@gocart09 How did you do this without a dyno?
@@comeauce well first off my skid steer only has 17hp and I have a snow plow on the front my butt dyno works great but I can also see the difference when it's working a load
@@gocart09 so you just made slight adjustments and then ran it to see how it did.
@@comeauce right started with half turns till I got SMOKE LOL then backed it of a 1/4 till it was a bit of smoke was only seen under full load for me it was pushing snow there's a sweet spot
I want to reduce the horsepower of my tractor to save on fuel costs. Any Ideas?
Pat Flynn buy a new tractor that's smaller
That would seem logical but not as simple as that as I spent a considerable sum converting the tractor to make it look like a steam engine. I was thinking that tractors in the say 80, 90 and 100hp ranges were working off similar diesel pump installations. The only difference being the settings in the pump to achieve the different horsepower outputs. Is it possible thus to have the pump adjusted to lower the HP and thus save on fuel?
Pat Flynn just take out ur engine sell it to buy a horse and tie the horse to the front of the tractor problem solved
Add a throttle stop, you would be doing the same thing as turning the pump down.
You need to clean the dyno its filthy
Not trying to be a funny guy fellas
But listen and watch at 12:49. Just was kinda funny
Pee nut got it lol
If you were a little better at showing what you are doing with better camera work it would be a lot more informative..but even with your vast experience it’s still not clear what you are doing
Thanks for watching and commenting!
All I could see was heads an elbows lol
you obviously have no clue what he is attempting so just move along and dont hurt yourself
Leave well enought alone. If you want more power get a bigger tractor.
Leon Smooth that cost way more money and is less fun.
true, but sometimes you just need this little extra hp for a job, you arent going to buy a whole new tractor for that one thing now are you? (at my job we needed a bit more hp for the feederwagon and you just arent going to buy a biggger tractor for that)