It'll be first battery powered trains in Ireland since the 1930s when the Drumm battery trains we're made by professor Drumm. There was charging place in former Harcourt street station and another charging place in bray was very innovative for the time. The Drumm batteries ran on the Harcourt street line which was closed in 1958 and today parts of it are now used by luas green line
Honestly innovation hasn't changed since, but just a constant degrade towards building motorways and expecting rail and other public services to turn a profit
There will be no improvement in journey times and these will be human controlled for the time being very little innovation but still extremely prohibitively expensive
Theres actually an issue with irish rail trying to get a depot in Maynooth for the dart+ west programme as there's not enough capacity to store the new trains entering service whenever this line is fitted with overhead wires as Malahide will be getting that line extended to Drogheda hopefully by the end of this decade with a bit of luck and then the batteries thats stored in the trains wont be used anymore as they'll be powered by the overhead wires from then on
Planning delays for the Maynooth depot, and by extension the implementation of DART+, is outrageous, An Bord Pleanala is not fit for purpose for a country trying to de-carbonize, First it was the Mayo gas pipeline terminal, then the wind turbines in Co, Galway now it's the Maynooth depot.
@@gerrytierney6500 It should be changed, will it change.. I'd say not, some people are making a serious cash cow out of it causing carnage to national projects that are beyond needed at this stage.
So, An Bórd Pleanála turned the depot in Maynooth down? A nation gasps in astonishment! (Not...) I can just hear the NIMBYs - "It's too high!!" "What? High? It's a train shed!!" "Nope! Too high! _Completely_ out of keeping with the character of the area! Not to mention the impact on the adders!" "But didn't St. Patrick --" _"ADDERS!"_
It will be good in the next few years when they can extend the DART to Navan - all they need now is a DART underground to the Irish Ferries & Stena Terminals via Dublin Docklands and a connection from the high speed tunnel line under the Irish Sea from Holyhead to Dublin
@toyotaprius79 Hopefully they will as these trains will be a thing for the future and hopefully forever as well and hopefully the commuter trains will be electric also should irish rail decide to continue getting these trains
Will Irish Rail/govt be leasing these carriages and completely on contract with Alstom forevermore instead of using their own maintenance and engineering ?
As I understand it, Irish Rail are buying the trains outright. Alstom are providing some of the maintenance under contract, but they are Irish Rail owned trains.
I have to say the quality of these new trains are absolutely amazing and I'm so excited to get a ride on these new trains hopefully by the end of next year if the starting of these trains are brought forward rather than waiting until early 2026
I hope that they don’t prove to be such a disaster as the last Alstom trains turned out to be. Both the 8200 Dart and the 2700 DMU fleets had to be scrapped. Will Irish Rail never learn?
thats why they're more than likely going to be constantly tested and re-tested before entering services. have to admit I agree with you about the DART 8200s never understood why they were withdrawn so early.
How long has the man worked in Ireland and mispronounce Drogheda so awfully. He should've done a better job at actually specifying the battery from the individual cells' voltage, C rate, cycle life and capacity total kWh, just saying it'll last 9yrs and an 80km range is not enough info.
The only real problem I can see with his face is that he has the extreme misfortune to be wearing something that looks like an orange MAGA hat. Poor man!
It'll be first battery powered trains in Ireland since the 1930s when the Drumm battery trains we're made by professor Drumm. There was charging place in former Harcourt street station and another charging place in bray was very innovative for the time. The Drumm batteries ran on the Harcourt street line which was closed in 1958 and today parts of it are now used by luas green line
You beat me to it!! James Drumm's name ought to be far better known and celebrated in Ireland 🇮🇪
Honestly innovation hasn't changed since, but just a constant degrade towards building motorways and expecting rail and other public services to turn a profit
There will be no improvement in journey times and these will be human controlled for the time being very little innovation but still extremely prohibitively expensive
@@cmk353 Stick to your fairytale Dublin Loop of shite.
The train is nice that’s probably the only dart train I’m riding
Theres actually an issue with irish rail trying to get a depot in Maynooth for the dart+ west programme as there's not enough capacity to store the new trains entering service whenever this line is fitted with overhead wires as Malahide will be getting that line extended to Drogheda hopefully by the end of this decade with a bit of luck and then the batteries thats stored in the trains wont be used anymore as they'll be powered by the overhead wires from then on
Planning delays for the Maynooth depot, and by extension the implementation of DART+, is outrageous, An Bord Pleanala is not fit for purpose for a country trying to de-carbonize, First it was the Mayo gas pipeline terminal, then the wind turbines in Co, Galway now it's the Maynooth depot.
@@gerrytierney6500 It should be changed, will it change.. I'd say not, some people are making a serious cash cow out of it causing carnage to national projects that are beyond needed at this stage.
So, An Bórd Pleanála turned the depot in Maynooth down? A nation gasps in astonishment! (Not...) I can just hear the NIMBYs - "It's too high!!" "What? High? It's a train shed!!" "Nope! Too high! _Completely_ out of keeping with the character of the area! Not to mention the impact on the adders!" "But didn't St. Patrick --" _"ADDERS!"_
The g in Drogheda is silent
It will be good in the next few years when they can extend the DART to Navan - all they need now is a DART underground to the Irish Ferries & Stena Terminals via Dublin Docklands and a connection from the high speed tunnel line under the Irish Sea from Holyhead to Dublin
You're joking, of course...
The new trains look great. Those windows look huge! Should be nice and bright.
Will the Irish Rail/govt be leasing these carriages forever though?
@toyotaprius79 Hopefully they will as these trains will be a thing for the future and hopefully forever as well and hopefully the commuter trains will be electric also should irish rail decide to continue getting these trains
I can see the 'scratchiti' now!
Will Irish Rail/govt be leasing these carriages and completely on contract with Alstom forevermore instead of using their own maintenance and engineering ?
more than likely will be going by whatever conditions there are in the contract dude.
As I understand it, Irish Rail are buying the trains outright. Alstom are providing some of the maintenance under contract, but they are Irish Rail owned trains.
I have to say the quality of these new trains are absolutely amazing and I'm so excited to get a ride on these new trains hopefully by the end of next year if the starting of these trains are brought forward rather than waiting until early 2026
Planning permission for the depot in Maynooth was refused
This country is a fucking disgrace
CATL in China already have batteries that could extend range.
And Sodium ion cell chemistry
Batteries are a stop gap measure. We need to electrify the rail network, then battery range won't matter.
I hope that they don’t prove to be such a disaster as the last Alstom trains turned out to be.
Both the 8200 Dart and the 2700 DMU fleets had to be scrapped.
Will Irish Rail never learn?
thats why they're more than likely going to be constantly tested and re-tested before entering services. have to admit I agree with you about the DART 8200s never understood why they were withdrawn so early.
How long has the man worked in Ireland and mispronounce Drogheda so awfully. He should've done a better job at actually specifying the battery from the individual cells' voltage, C rate, cycle life and capacity total kWh, just saying it'll last 9yrs and an 80km range is not enough info.
A better attempt at pronunciation than Richard Chamberlain’s ‘Drugeeda’ in that old 80s Thorn Bird tv mini series
Does he actually work in Ireland though? He is Alston manager for Ireland.
Whats wrong with his face??? Also these look absolutely disgusting, a crime against trains, not for me sorry
The only real problem I can see with his face is that he has the extreme misfortune to be wearing something that looks like an orange MAGA hat. Poor man!