Made in Europe .There was war in the EU last time with grants giving to replace the old trains instead of being bought in Europe where sourced in South Korea.
For a long time, Irish Rail (and CIE before them) sourced what they wanted and didn't really care about where it came from. This started after being burned with the poor engines on the British-built A and C classes in the 50s, resulting in them going to General Motors for their locomotives. They also got most of their railcars and the new DARTs from Japan. I'd imagine that these sets being built in the EU was partially influenced by the NTA, especially considering that the last sets that Irish Rail got from Alstom (the 2700 and 8200 classes) were a bad buy.
@@davecoz4227 The 8200s spent more time out of service than in service. Entered service in 2000 and were gone by 2008. The 2700s arrived in 1998 and were all stopped in 2012. Meanwhile the Japanese 2600s, bought in 1994, are still in service today.
Only for a few more years until enough of the new sets have entered service to replace them. I believe 2029 or 2030 is the current estimate for when they will be taken out of regular service. Irish Ral has gotten permission to keep them around until 2034, but unfortunately the 8100s are already at end of life and they are begging to be retired.
Brexit. The LUAS trams were built in Derby but that was long before Brexit. I saw one person trying to claim the U.K. having a different rail gauge was more of a reason than Brexit but that’s really clutching at straws. Also, if Alstom have produced similar trains in a location and have experienced staff and correct tooling in place, it’s easier to transport them a bit further when they’re built than relocate that production process elsewhere. I don’t know the exact balance of reasons but they seem the most likely.
@@Dreyno it’s all about the money, Irish rail don’t care where they’re manufactured, the uk is still a competitor. It’s not like the Irish tax payer benefits because they’re built in derby versus Katowice.
@@brianjkavanagh I Know that. Someone asked the question. I presume they know that it’s a different country. Just putting a couple of answers out there.
@@brianjkavanagh +1 that. Note how the shipping route _avoids_ using the UK as a land bridge... Personally; I wish *I* could avoid the UK too. Regrettably, I'm unlucky enough to live there... 🙁
@@duploman0003 The ICNG has many issues... the Lint series in Germany has lotsa issues (yes new ones too aswell as the old ones) they bought Bombardier.... actually combining 2 of the worst into 1... If a brand like Pesa becomes more reliable than Alstom that says it all.
@@AllianceB95 the new Stadler freight locomotives in Spain are pure garbage compared to the 15 year-old Bombardier Traxx (I know because I drive both). No company is safe from manufacturing bad products these days...
![[LIVE] : ONE ลุมพินี 88 | คู่เอก "ป้อมเพชร vs อัสลามจอน"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1ZqTVVbMgbo/mqdefault.jpg)
Can you make sure to add some clocks?? Might help the drivers who are late everyday
Finally!! The DART is begging for some new rolling stock
Indeed they are! My guess is that they will probably replace them.
And none of the windows open 🙄
@@Irish_Explorerwhich is like cutting the capacity of the network from the knees
@@toyotaprius79 I am pretty sure when I saw the cabs of these there was a HVAC menu button so I'd say they will have air conditioning.
@@matthewdoyle3513 When there's a puddle of sick in the corner on a hot day, there's really no substitute for windows that open!
So these are our new dart trains
The trains drive on the other side in Poland though?
Yeah🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice train!
🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
@MichelFavre-m7t Thank you very much! You are welcome! 😊🙂
When are they going public, look forward to seeing them in reality
Nice train and video 👍
Thanks for the likes 👍
Our dart could do with an upgrade
Made in Europe .There was war in the EU last time with grants giving to replace the old trains instead of being bought in Europe where sourced in South Korea.
For a long time, Irish Rail (and CIE before them) sourced what they wanted and didn't really care about where it came from. This started after being burned with the poor engines on the British-built A and C classes in the 50s, resulting in them going to General Motors for their locomotives. They also got most of their railcars and the new DARTs from Japan. I'd imagine that these sets being built in the EU was partially influenced by the NTA, especially considering that the last sets that Irish Rail got from Alstom (the 2700 and 8200 classes) were a bad buy.
@@steeviebops A bad buy? Explain please
@@davecoz4227 The 8200s spent more time out of service than in service. Entered service in 2000 and were gone by 2008. The 2700s arrived in 1998 and were all stopped in 2012. Meanwhile the Japanese 2600s, bought in 1994, are still in service today.
@@steeviebops Many thanks
Wish that Melbourne would get these xtrapolis too
Great Video
See the DART's predecessor the DRUMM Battery train set.
Cheers alstom
Nice
will the 8100s stay?
Probably yes.
I really hope so. I love the 8100/8300 trains. They are millions of times better than the 8500/8510/8520 trains.
Only for a few more years until enough of the new sets have entered service to replace them. I believe 2029 or 2030 is the current estimate for when they will be taken out of regular service. Irish Ral has gotten permission to keep them around until 2034, but unfortunately the 8100s are already at end of life and they are begging to be retired.
Why not build the trains in Alstom Derby ?
Much closer to Ireland, and they could do with a bit more work...
Brexit ?
Brexit. The LUAS trams were built in Derby but that was long before Brexit. I saw one person trying to claim the U.K. having a different rail gauge was more of a reason than Brexit but that’s really clutching at straws.
Also, if Alstom have produced similar trains in a location and have experienced staff and correct tooling in place, it’s easier to transport them a bit further when they’re built than relocate that production process elsewhere.
I don’t know the exact balance of reasons but they seem the most likely.
@@Dreyno it’s all about the money, Irish rail don’t care where they’re manufactured, the uk is still a competitor. It’s not like the Irish tax payer benefits because they’re built in derby versus Katowice.
@@brianjkavanagh I Know that. Someone asked the question. I presume they know that it’s a different country. Just putting a couple of answers out there.
@@brianjkavanagh +1 that. Note how the shipping route _avoids_ using the UK as a land bridge...
Personally; I wish *I* could avoid the UK too. Regrettably, I'm unlucky enough to live there... 🙁
Dart are only getting three trains
🚄👌👍
DART for Dublin, not Dallas just FYI
Those seats look horribly like the infamous itoning board seats on the thameslink class 700s 😮
1990’s last decade in which comfortable seats were the norm in railway carriages.
@OscarOSullivan the only half comfortable seats on trains are the new leather seats in the 22000 class
I'm not surprised if they are ironing board seats which are one of the most uncomfortable seats I have ever sat in (especially on the Thameslink ones)
they have to be scumbag proof
Lets hope these trains are put into service soon as the present train service is a desaster
Cars 🍼
Trains 🗿
Fares increase on the way.
Yurt
I hope it's gonna be more reliable than the usual from Alstom.... I dont understand why they didnt buy Stadlers instead... likely the price.
Alstom trains in the Netherlands have been very reliable and they’re new too, so that bodes well.
@@duploman0003 The ICNG has many issues... the Lint series in Germany has lotsa issues (yes new ones too aswell as the old ones) they bought Bombardier.... actually combining 2 of the worst into 1... If a brand like Pesa becomes more reliable than Alstom that says it all.
Also 8200 Dart stock built by Alstom, more time in the works than on the network.
@@AllianceB95 I live in the Netherlands and while initially there were some problems with the ICNG now there are none and they’re really nice trains.
@@AllianceB95 the new Stadler freight locomotives in Spain are pure garbage compared to the 15 year-old Bombardier Traxx (I know because I drive both). No company is safe from manufacturing bad products these days...
These ought to take a graffiti piece _beautifully!_ I can hardly wait...
Disgusting looking units. The beauty of the old green Korean darts will be missed.
Nothing for the people of cork city as per usual 🙄
Greens want to build light rail from Mahon to Ballincollig
Cork people go 30 seconds without telling you they're from Cork challenge (impossible)
@@liamsweeney4754 😂😂
@@liamsweeney4754 that’s just talk for votes
Nothing for the people of Ireland based outside Dublin. As usual.
Very disappointed with the passenger areas. For us who currently have diesel, the passenger experience will be a backward step…
Those are ugly, yuckkk, sorry Dart man, not for me!