SHOGUN Episode 10 Finale Recap | Ending Explained

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  • SHOGUN Episode 10 Finale Recap | Ending Explained
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  • @newyorkcrop966
    @newyorkcrop966 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    The show seemed to have very little action on the surface, but it was loaded with depth. It showcased the highest form of warfare - winning without fighting. Toranaga is a true master of the Art of War. You know, Sun Tzu talks about how it's all about strategy, deception, and psychological warfare, not just brute force. And that's exactly what we see from Toranaga in this show.

  • @prabhu7007
    @prabhu7007 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Episode 9 was 10x insane than finale..

    • @SuperStella1111
      @SuperStella1111 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's one episode - the second (tenth) picks up a nanosecond after the first ends (ninth). I timed it to watch one after another. Very satisfying.

  • @bhagyajitpingua9891
    @bhagyajitpingua9891 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +101

    Toranaga tricked us all

    • @ZaimGamePlay
      @ZaimGamePlay 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      He's 4th wall thru the screen is totally the 3rd heart move. Even us feel like yabu, on the cliff looking at toranaga sama and said..... "well played, dono"

    • @DeptalJexus
      @DeptalJexus 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Darkest deepest bad guy always portrays himself as a saint. But hey, the end justifies its mean.

    • @user-cj1kz8jf4y
      @user-cj1kz8jf4y 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Anthony blinken

    • @pedrodaniels5480
      @pedrodaniels5480 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He tricked me i thought he eas a worrior but he is a little bitch he sent his most trusted to sacrificed himself so he doesn't have to fight

    • @Ghost-kn9bd
      @Ghost-kn9bd 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the show tricked us all in building up to absolutely nothing

  • @bunnyhallow
    @bunnyhallow 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I don't need an Epic Battle, I just want Fujisama to be Best Nun

  • @Zayd18
    @Zayd18 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    "let your hands be the last to hold her" that hit hard

  • @fuckthisfuckingworld
    @fuckthisfuckingworld 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +128

    wow Toranaga is such a great trickster he even tricked the viewers that all this build up would lead to an epic battle...

    • @milosmilosmilos
      @milosmilosmilos 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I also expect a show about chess to suddenly introduce rocket launchers.
      ffs..

    • @hellothere4431
      @hellothere4431 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@milosmilosmilos this ain't queens gambit lil bro

    • @fuckthisfuckingworld
      @fuckthisfuckingworld 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@milosmilosmilos yeah it's crazy to expect an epic battle from a show that is about politics in feudal Japan with some fights then and there, the same show that showed a 5 second army scene in the episode teaser to hype up a battle just to end the show with Toranaga standing in the wilderness

    • @tbducky4136
      @tbducky4136 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I really wanted more fights.. not for the simple reason of it looking cool but they all had such unique fighting styles, blackthorn in particular when finally seeing him use his pistols made me want more

    • @bukojoetheslapsoils8273
      @bukojoetheslapsoils8273 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A huge battle would have ruined the tone of the show.

  • @tatumomana51
    @tatumomana51 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    Mariko herself is the Crimson Sky.

    • @user-cj1kz8jf4y
      @user-cj1kz8jf4y 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She's more than anyone imagined. She is disappointed in humanity n selfishness. Some place themselves only to create disorder. Cross is not something she had or believed in. Jewish w responsibility of 4 directions.

  • @Wangchukleon
    @Wangchukleon 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    When toronaga says-Why tell a dead man the future before cutting yabusigae's head off was the exact line that yabusigae says during the first episode of the series.

  • @lendial
    @lendial 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    After Toranaga becomes shogun he eventually gets Ochiba and her son to commit seppuku, he really was playing everyone from the start and would stop at nothing to rule Japan

    • @Bob-po2dp
      @Bob-po2dp 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Like why couldn’t we have at least seen that? It would’ve been a great payoff and really showed Toranagas true nature. Instead it ended right before any sort of climax. I’m fine with no big battle but you gotta give us at least something.

    • @NegaTheKoreanBastard.
      @NegaTheKoreanBastard. 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Bob-po2dpBut what if there's gonna be a movie?

    • @TravellerTinker
      @TravellerTinker 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Her son too? Thats evil bro

    • @valkeery1216
      @valkeery1216 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@TravellerTinker well her son was the true heir so he had to go

    • @ichigolegend2788
      @ichigolegend2788 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@Bob-po2dp Because the story ended right before the battle. The climax was at episode 9 with Mariko's death, and episode 10 is basically the story about how her death affect everything. Toranaga is technically already won, so the story ended there.

  • @cpa889900
    @cpa889900 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The series ended exactly how I expected it to. Toranaga said multiple times he didn't want a war. He did everything possible to avoid a war. The final episode stuck to Toranaga's statements

    • @pedrodaniels5480
      @pedrodaniels5480 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Booooooooooo

    • @xslow89x
      @xslow89x 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But there is a war is the problem.

  • @unchboy
    @unchboy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yabushige is the future Emmy winner. 😂

  • @krisztianmayer
    @krisztianmayer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    After the death of Mariko-sama, I could have said, "Who cares what happens next," and I partly felt this after Episode 9. At the same time, I believe we witnessed a fitting conclusion. The duo of Fuji and John, as well as Toranaga and Yabu, worked exceptionally well in their scenes. When the fates of Fuji and John intertwined in mourning and letting go, it was emotionally a very strong and touching scene. I'm glad we got to see Fuji's character several times in the finale. It was also good to see when Buntaro showed respect to John and joined the work at the end of the episode. This short scene also indicated significant character development. Many mention that we didn't see a battle. In my opinion, there was no need for it. In this series, the true value often lay in the unsaid, implied, or non-verbally expressed aspects. For my part, I congratulate the creators and thank them for the experience!

  • @Honestly_take_the_hint
    @Honestly_take_the_hint 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    While I’m not against the ending I did wish for more, especially considering in the original we saw the victory of toranaga not just a simple “my plan will pay off one day… next month” ishido didn’t get defeated at all yet. It definitely opens the door for a second season. Despite them saying they won’t. I felt lied to considering the director said the show would in ep 10 be wrapped up perfectly to the . At the end but this felt like a part one rather then a full story conclusion.

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, they built up a villain but don't offer closure. Only a promise of closure.

    • @lucasbelmonte2832
      @lucasbelmonte2832 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But he did. We know what happens, Toranaga explains it to Yabu and we even see it, the Heir and the Council no longer support Ishido and the battle was won without a drop of blood.

    • @Honestly_take_the_hint
      @Honestly_take_the_hint 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lucasbelmonte2832 while he hints at the being the outcome there is no Guarantee for a show called shogun, he wasn’t shown becoming shogun just the build up towards the main battle in which he’d earn the image to request it but as I said the first show did it significantly better then this. It felt lacklustre compared to the amazing writing and build up in prior episodes from shinobi attack to the amazing double kill of episode 9 by the brown samurai. This felt cheap and underwhelming. A half completed feeling to the many of us.

    • @lucasbelmonte2832
      @lucasbelmonte2832 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Honestly_take_the_hint But he'd already won in episode 9 with Marikos death. This was the epilogue. It was never going to show him becoming shogun, but anyone with a non american brain knows he will.

    • @Honestly_take_the_hint
      @Honestly_take_the_hint 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lucasbelmonte2832 while not disputing the intention as I’ve said they showed everything in the 1980s version, I would’ve been fine with a 1-2 minute battle and him being recognised in a narrative format to being made shogun but they left it at a point before that hinting at the dominos without showing him winning outside of his enemies Ally sending a letter saying I’m not showing up. In the first series and story they talk about ishidos death and toranagas Victory, his appointment to shogun

  • @shanahregguinti188
    @shanahregguinti188 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In episode 1 Yabushige tells Omi, "why tell a dead man the future", referring to the ship, weapons and Anjin. Toranaga says that exact line to him before he chops his head off...Omi was working for Toranaga all along IMO. That was the smile Yabushige gave to Toranaga and Toranaga to him before the sword came down...the realization that Toranaga planned it all.

    • @EmilyKim-pp7uc
      @EmilyKim-pp7uc 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think so too. For a while because of Kiku, Omi wanted Toranaga's position. But after Nagakado died (he also briefly used him), he finally became completely loyal to Toranaga? Toranaga really wants everyone to be loyal to him.
      And maybe Kiku knew that he had been a spy all along. hmm hmm. Everyone plays their game to get their wish..

  • @pss2996
    @pss2996 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kashiki Yabushige (樫木藪重), played by Asano Tadanobu (浅野忠信), finally committed seppuku and died in episode 10. But the actual model, Honda Masanobu (本多正信), was indeed an opportunist in his own right, who became the first and foremost chief lieutenant of the Edo Shogunate and served two generations of Tokugawa Ieyasu (徳川家康) and Tokugawa Hidetada (徳川秀忠). 浅野忠信が演じた樫木藪重は第10話でついに切腹して果てた。しかし、実際にモデルとなった本多正信は、さすが日和見主義者の本領を発揮して、江戸幕府の初代筆頭老中となり、徳川家康・徳川秀忠の2代に仕えた人物であった。
    However, perhaps taking into account the feelings of viewers who would not tolerate a traitor, Toranaga ordered him to commit seppuku in this drama, and in the form of Toranaga acting as intercessor. This was indeed an honourable seppuku and a very generous treatment.ところが、裏切り者を許さない視聴者の心情を考慮したのだろうか、このドラマで虎永は彼に切腹を命じた、しかも、虎永が介錯を務める形で。これはまさに名誉のタヒであり、かなりの厚遇であった。
    In the first place, seppuku was an act of self-immolation in which a samurai committed seppuku himself in order to avoid the disgrace of having his head cut off and exposed on the battlefield. In the dorama, a number of gaijin - barbarians were shown on screen with their heads exposed.そもそも、切腹とは、戦場で侍が首を切り取られて晒し首になる不名誉を回避するために、自らが割腹する自害行為であった。劇中でも、何人もの外人‐蛮人の首が晒されている画面が映っていた。

  • @richt63
    @richt63 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have read the book and the original 1980 miniseries. Although Fuji ( Fujiko in the book) died in the novel. She never died in the 1980 miniseries nor she became a nun. I think she changed her mind and later became Anjin-san's wife. She was becoming a Nun more so for her husband and son. Not just for Mariko-san. However Blackthorne didn't want her to leave him. So I think he wanted to show her a sailor's funeral. In which is believed by sailors that a person's soul and spirit will be around forever. By showing her this and together they buried her family and Mariko-san. She later decided to stay as his consort and perhaps later his wife. Because of this act. They moved on and became a couple. As for Toda Buntaro, he lost not only his wife but his father. So besides his son. He acknowledges Blackthorne as family. Great review. ❤.

  • @oblockent9699
    @oblockent9699 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This ending might actually be worse than GOT ending. At least GOT gave us an ending even if we didn't like it, If I could describe this show in one sentence: All build up no pay off. Doesn't matter if it's based on historical events or people already know how the battle goes it still would've been nice to see what happens or the aftermath of it. It's like making a show about the Titanic and never showing how it sank.

  • @venividivici1281
    @venividivici1281 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    Underwhelming ending. 9 episodes of oncoming war build up just to end with toranaga standing at the wilderness, this and the newly released true detective have an underwhelming ending

    • @N0M4DY
      @N0M4DY 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Agreed, feels like it should be at least 1 more episode to conclude everything

    • @grinningwombat
      @grinningwombat 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      The real finale was ep 9, this was basically just the epilogue...

    • @Villagelifenepal
      @Villagelifenepal 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      it was like winter is coming in
      GOT.

  • @skyz6708
    @skyz6708 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I can't believe this is how the book ends like man all we needed was like a 11 or 12 episode season and it would've been perfect. I can't help but feel a little unsatisfied with the ending, when does Blackthorne go back to England? Does Toranaga become Shogun or protector of the heir? No final battle, which has been built up all season and man all i wanted since episode one was to see Blackthorne captaining a ship not once did we get to see some proper naval warfare.
    Still a great show but man it could of had a better ending.

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      He doesn't go back to England. That "old man Blackthorne" was a potential future, a dream (as seen in the title of the episode). In the dream you can see him holding Mariko's cross. But we can see that he threw that cross in the lake.
      He let go of that potential future. They also stop showing it after he sees that future while he is holding the wakizashi to his heart and says "F*ck it". That's when that potential future was removed.

    • @skyz6708
      @skyz6708 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MustardSkaven The show still could have handled the ending a bit better. After reading up the booking ending and the actual real life events of these characters i am fine with this ending but without using google i'd still be left unsatisfied, which i imagine a lot of people won't.
      Also i understood the letting go of the potential future but i didn't take that 0% chance he'd ever go back to England.

    • @TheGodvszombies
      @TheGodvszombies 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed. The show was a 10/10 for me but now it’s dipped to a 7/10 with the ending.
      There’s way too much crescendo in each episode for a very clumsy ending.
      Every character is talking about the impending battle and yet we the audience didn’t get to see any of it…

  • @DanteHellDrive
    @DanteHellDrive 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Literally 10/10 ending, such a phenomenal ending. Made me feel every emotion joy, sadness, hope, etc. I'm kinda sad that the show bids farewell. Hands down best show of the year and maybe even one of the best shows ever.

    • @mirikaku5811
      @mirikaku5811 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not everything has to be bang bang action..like some kind of action fast food consumption. This story had plenty of drama that was more than superficial adrenaline rush. A complete battle with own ego and need for control over life and death. The surrender of one’s own ambition to outsmart god. Toranaga said, I don’t control the wind, I only read it. (Study it as it was translated in English)

  • @Leo-V
    @Leo-V 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Disappointed with last episode

    • @yoragamihatsu8057
      @yoragamihatsu8057 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      wdym bro it was poetic

    • @Ghost-kn9bd
      @Ghost-kn9bd 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@yoragamihatsu8057it was underwhelming. Most overrated show this does not deserve such high ratings

  • @Aih1616
    @Aih1616 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    man it’s interesting that still after watching 9 great episodes there were people who expected a typical Hollywood one trick pony big bang war and a kiss ending😂

  • @tacitusromanus8239
    @tacitusromanus8239 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    I loved the ending. We got a glimpse of what would happen at the final battle. More is conveyed by eye contact and gestures by the actors in this ending than having it all spelled out. What an excellent series!

  • @aleccap5946
    @aleccap5946 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Anticlimax and missed the mark, they should have explained via flashback, mine clips how he became Shogun how he won the war and united the whole of Japan

  • @user-di2le6oh1u
    @user-di2le6oh1u 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    In actual history, the Battle of Sekigahara alone becomes a drama. After that, Toranaga fights the ``Ochiba'' (Yodo-dono) at the winter and summer camps in Osaka. In order for the family to survive, the family is divided into enemies and allies, and that alone becomes a drama.

  • @THEKRATOS302
    @THEKRATOS302 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What was that??? Omggg 10/10 but I wish a season 2 battle scenes, more action more drama, new Mariko or bring her from the dead hahjaha

  • @siddharthb2633
    @siddharthb2633 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    Disappointing ending.

    • @DaDragonSlayer007
      @DaDragonSlayer007 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I expected a final battle

    • @NegaTheKoreanBastard.
      @NegaTheKoreanBastard. 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@DaDragonSlayer007 Same bruhh I've been waiting for weeks just to see a glimpse.

    • @DaDragonSlayer007
      @DaDragonSlayer007 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NegaTheKoreanBastard. yea. Dissappointed show.

    • @syd5306
      @syd5306 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      An epic final battle was all we needed

    • @tommyshelby2787
      @tommyshelby2787 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@syd5306 exactly, they might show the letter at the end but at least anjin helping toronaga in sea and Toronaga army facing enemies in a battle.

  • @sebi-vg8fo
    @sebi-vg8fo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    All saying dissapointing endig (like yabushige want every thing but got nothing in the end) but i think its a beautiful endig in a own way of Philosophy

    • @noatereu6360
      @noatereu6360 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agreed. I loved it.

    • @krisztianmayer
      @krisztianmayer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are right!

  • @petej3525
    @petej3525 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +159

    With the budget they get, can't they have a proper episode for the Battle of Sekigahara? This is so underwhelming.

    • @transientaf8019
      @transientaf8019 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

      Toranaga says the battle is over before a sword is drawn so whats the point of an episode? I think its done perfectly

    • @DanteHellDrive
      @DanteHellDrive 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

      This means you were a peasant after all, and still didn't understand the trickster Toranaga himself. You'll learn as age comes.

    • @WhiteBoyNick1
      @WhiteBoyNick1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      ​@@DanteHellDrivewrong you dont know the real story do u, they ruined it and a real battle did happen, 2 in fact. Stop pretending u r wise.

    • @sebi-vg8fo
      @sebi-vg8fo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mimimimi

    • @DanteHellDrive
      @DanteHellDrive 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      It happened in the background. None of us were interested to see the war, the show was always about the politics and relationship. It doesnt have to be 1:1 for a book to a show. ​And, brohter if youre still thiraty for a war go simulate it in any online war simulator game. @WhiteBoyNick1

  • @caroleappling2007
    @caroleappling2007 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Mindless action movies of Hollywood, have ruined some many..all so can think of is just bloodshed..because writing is so weak. This ending was so much more.

    • @TheGodvszombies
      @TheGodvszombies 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What do you mean? There’s lots of bloodshed throughout the whole movie.
      Why have so much climax throughout each episode to leave it with a stinker finally?
      It’s not Hollywood, it’s basic writing…promise your audience with a battle that the characters and the trailers have been building up to…

    • @Ghost-kn9bd
      @Ghost-kn9bd 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, To have a buildup all these weeks for a underwhelming ending is what weak writing is lol

  • @PaliAha808
    @PaliAha808 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just in case you do a video on a future Japanese show
    The R sound does not exist in Japanese. L not R.
    Nor does the "a" sound as in apple.
    samurai: "sah moo lai"
    Yabushige: "Yah boo shee geh"
    katana: "kah tah nah"
    Mariko "Mah Lee Koh"
    ramen: "lah men"
    Don't blame the Japanese. The Romanization system was created by an American.

  • @Apathylex
    @Apathylex 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I hope they'll make a subsequent movie of the Battle of Sekigahara. For those who loved the mind games, deception, and strategies, I'd recommend watching Sanada Maru (2016) 50 episodes full of it and based on actual historical characters and events.

    • @johnwalker3602
      @johnwalker3602 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But there was no battle in the show's story. After Heir's army didn't show up the rest turned against Ishido, that much is told in the last episode.

  • @asahel980
    @asahel980 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I know this is based on historical events , but how can he know its in Sekigihara? also Lady Ochiba suddenly has a change of heart knowing that Toranaga is the one why his father is dead, She must know Toranaga wanted to be Shogun knowing that she and his son is gonna get killed. Lady Ochiba in this verion practically is in control and 101% can defeat Toranaga , it doesnt make any sense, they tried to be different from the novel and the 1980 version. and they choose that?
    they couldve made Toranaga and the Portuguese made an alliance via Lady Mariko or Lady Mariko's death making the 2 regents switch side

    • @zeeunveil1324
      @zeeunveil1324 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      She was manipulated by marikoa as she came to like her and is saddened by her death. Of course this was toronagas ploy to weaken her

    • @yanmetal2111
      @yanmetal2111 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Spies. Toranaga knew that Ishido was planning to bring his army into a defensive position in Sekigahara. Tornaga also knew that the other regents would oppose Ishido.
      I think Lady Ochiba and Lady Mariko were good friends, though. Of course, Toranaga knew that Mariko's death would weaken her, which is what happened. She realized that Ishido, with the help of Yabushige, was some kind responsible for Mariko's death and that Ishido was simply using Lady Ochiba to gain power. Ishido didn't even care that Mariko died - see the scene where the council decides to go to war. Lady Ochiba wanted to mourn - Ishido didn't care. Logically, she cannot rule Japan alone or with the help of the child, so she assured Toranaga that the regent's army would not intervene in the battle against him.
      Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

    • @Exxperiment626
      @Exxperiment626 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@zeeunveil1324 I am sorry, but that's just silly writing.

  • @dannyau139
    @dannyau139 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great series with got ending, I was waiting for an epic battle and death to the regents…

  • @Winch_Largo
    @Winch_Largo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    thats ending is very simple and make me not happy, i need more episode from this epic story.

  • @rezarenaldi8372
    @rezarenaldi8372 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Anyone question for the next season, or for sekigahara battle? This series was ended and like the ending by this season toranaga said, me and ishido regen will meet on sekigahara?, ishido have all army from all regen, but his wife abandoned ishido and ishido will not have enough terms to declare his clean to star war with toranaga, and if U guys want to know what happen in sekigahara war to toranaga and ishido army, U can see the movie "sekigahara 2017" but toranaga doest not exist, because toranaga its a fantasy name the real name of firs shogun on that story is Tokugawa Leyasu(toranaga) and ishida matsunari as ishido, and yeah toranaga defeat ishido and become shogun for long time, hope my coment help U all

  • @sburns2421
    @sburns2421 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I assume the episode title was Aijin’s dream of dying as an old man in England
    But nothing was truthful of that entire short scene

  • @NinjaNiGRIMGameZone
    @NinjaNiGRIMGameZone 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Art of war by Sun Tzu
    "to win without a fighting"

  • @aNsWeRkEy02
    @aNsWeRkEy02 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    underwhelming ending..its got all over again

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's not as bad as GoT, lol.
      GoT's second half was all downhill. 4 seasons going down in quality drastically with a horrific final season.
      With Shogun, the quality was great throughout all episodes. We just didn't get to see a battle we were expecting to see.

  • @MattWas_Taken
    @MattWas_Taken 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    All that build up for nothing I definitely got tricked

    • @Ghost-kn9bd
      @Ghost-kn9bd 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep and so many people got tricked so badly that they praise this show so highly even still 😂 so overrated and undeserving of its high ratings

    • @MattWas_Taken
      @MattWas_Taken 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ghost-kn9bd I really expected a well ending with a war not toronaga tricking everyone 😭

  • @WyattDucar
    @WyattDucar 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I know some comments are disappointment of the ending, but I think that was the point really Since the book also doesn’t feature the battle of Semigahara Either. So I accepted the ending the way it is

  • @zachrobertson684
    @zachrobertson684 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Eh show kind of came and went. For all the hype...it was a bit meandering. I get the point of the ending, just never seemed to be a proper climax it mehvd on the way out for sure.

  • @KategariYami
    @KategariYami 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I understand everyone wanting to also see some real cool stuff like a great big battle, but at the same time...
    Victory was already secured after episode 9. Mariko basically 1-shotted Ishido, ez clap. 😅

  • @oceanbreeze4361
    @oceanbreeze4361 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What a life in feudal days ..you live and you die...head choppings and committing your own death. Horrible and fearful living in that world.

  • @himpekenny
    @himpekenny 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    A little disappointed damm

  • @universalcollective427
    @universalcollective427 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    the entire season was a tease of a battle never fought, yeah yeah, mariko/crimson sky whatever ..... 10 episodes of moody beautiful ultimately frustrating and unsatisfying bllshyt

    • @Oxcymoron
      @Oxcymoron 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      My thoughts exactly. I didn't think it'd end with a large battle but I still expected more than what we got.

    • @TheJethroskull
      @TheJethroskull 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ha ha ha, it was very clear last chapter was the series climax, this is just and epilogue since it was clear that once the hostages fled, defeat was certain for Ishido

    • @calebbriggs7194
      @calebbriggs7194 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      That's literally how the book goes lol. maybe you should watch Michael bay films if all you care for is the action.

    • @616lichking
      @616lichking 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They should have made it a two part ep10

    • @mdanasmusic
      @mdanasmusic 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@calebbriggs7194 i care for story too, but needs action as well!

  • @stylian6805
    @stylian6805 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    We all know this show was never about the big battles and should expect the absence of the fighting scenery !!! Me personally i enjoyed each and every single episode from start to end and i respect the whole approach from this show to the specific era of Japan !!! I loved this although i wish we had more content i give the show 10/10 💪😎🙏☦️🇬🇷

  • @thefirstofthelastones8952
    @thefirstofthelastones8952 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    John Blackthorne started off as a "Stranger in a Strange Land" to... The opposite of that.

  • @g17yt99
    @g17yt99 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can someone explain why the lady ochiba flipped in the end? I mean it makes no sense since she hated toranaga so much for no reason

  • @nonamenonameplease2586
    @nonamenonameplease2586 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please end it with final battle of the death it’s so much to handle with all these space to fill.

  • @TheGodvszombies
    @TheGodvszombies 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love the story and the characters but wow am I disappointed.
    I’m a sucker for violence in movies/shows and I felt like this show had the violence I needed.
    The ending however was very anti climatic and I felt all it needed was the crescendo that it was building. A 5 minute monologue and quick shots of a battlefield wasn’t enough for me especially with the constant build up of “we’re taking over Osaka”.
    Hopefully they make a few more episodes with a bigger budget focusing more on the epilogue

  • @Starhid12
    @Starhid12 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    is it the last episode of the season or will there be a episode 11 ?

  • @aWildJersh
    @aWildJersh 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A lot of people are of the same mind. Beautiful artistic ending? Sure. Blue balls ending and entirely overwhelming? Hell yeah. I had to check how much of the episode was left and started thinking halfway through “wait-is this it?” 9 episodes of build up with less than satisfying ending

    • @Pluralboard
      @Pluralboard 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I knew this would happen!!!

  • @loyh5269
    @loyh5269 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    hegelian dialectec,
    thesis is toranaga
    anti thesis is ishido
    synthesis is the war which was never shown lol
    I love everything about this show but the finale is just a new taste for me perhaps thats why i did not like it. after all this conflict that we watched, we as audience NEED a RESOLUTION, not a glimpse of the future lol maybe im just mad but ok

  • @mehirplays8084
    @mehirplays8084 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is the series ended? Pls let me know 😢

  • @N0M4DY
    @N0M4DY 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Feels like it should be one more episode Lol it just ends too abrupt

  • @vel5094
    @vel5094 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Considering how people felt about this show, and how the show has already succeeded from the initial 5 episodes, we can only hope that the producers did trick us all and create a second season. But then again, I'm just inhaling copium while typing this.

  • @caroleappling2007
    @caroleappling2007 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This show is a masterpiece….10’s across the board. The ending without a blood thirsty battle. ( which is so pat) is such a master stroke.

  • @xtianZ5000
    @xtianZ5000 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I felt it needed another episode.

  • @lemeowskie5983
    @lemeowskie5983 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    iirc the book did end like this. just lots of explaining of what was to come

    • @WhiteBoyNick1
      @WhiteBoyNick1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The real story he helped tokunaga win 2 battles in real life. And stayed in Japan. But idk if that's the book or the actual story the book is just based off.

  • @THEGAMESEEKERS
    @THEGAMESEEKERS 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Perfect ending. Words speak for themselves.
    If you want epic samurai battles wait until Ghost of Tsushima movie comes out.

  • @faustinot9313
    @faustinot9313 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was waiting for anjin to learn how to swing that ish...go back with army in tow for a big lord of the rings type battle.....only to be disappointed with some deep meaning of life type ish😂

  • @vegetachiva
    @vegetachiva 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Honestly super disappointing, I expected something impressive and flawless

  • @randypipper92
    @randypipper92 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I missed Kiku😢

  • @Opochtli
    @Opochtli 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Utah Jazz da best

  • @farazhussain5790
    @farazhussain5790 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I thought it was perfect...

    • @penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022
      @penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It is, this is jdrama not, Samurai x movie

    • @farazhussain5790
      @farazhussain5790 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022 exactly I dunno why people went into it expecting soooooo much action wars and fighting. It was beautiful and they should appreciate it for what it is. They lack intelligence and don't appreciate beauty and just want to see senseless violence and killing. That's not what this was about. I love japanese culture and I studied this era ages ago and I was sooooooo excited they brought it to life and executed it so perfectly.
      Bravo! Anna Sawai deserves every single award that exists.

  • @asahel980
    @asahel980 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I watched the 1980 version so for me its kinda spoiled. and in some aspect the 1980 version is better as some scenes are watered down in the 2024 version.
    -Lady Mariko asked father Alvito to be friends with John which implied they will as Anjin is marooned in Japan.
    -Toranaga revealed only to viewers He dont want John to leave Japan as he gonna taught him a lot.
    -John reunion with his crew is more happier and the death of his last crew was a bit dramatic the realization of hopelessness of not going home, it was a very good acting to be honest.
    -Toranaga never revealed to anyone his masterplan everyone was oblivious.
    and so many great scenes was not included as I said the 2024 version is watered down.

  • @carlosv728
    @carlosv728 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yabisihe lives in LA, so if you see him , say hi to him

  • @zeeunveil1324
    @zeeunveil1324 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cant believe it all over now damn and there wont be season 2 its all over god damn it

  • @OKBUDDY21
    @OKBUDDY21 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It was amazing, but I just wish we got to see everything unfold from the battle and what comes afterwards although we were already told by toranaga. Just finished the episode and idk how I feel about toranaga pretty much spoiling what happens lmao. It was an amazing series though, don't get me wrong, but now I am bothered by that spoilage lmao.

    • @Pluralboard
      @Pluralboard 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I called it. With the few skirmishes in between, there was no way they could crank out a battle even though we deserved one. At least we had some taste of combat through out the series. I don’t know why they could not have just made this a 12 episode series, rather than just 10 episodes. It’s baffling honestly.

    • @OKBUDDY21
      @OKBUDDY21 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Pluralboard Had to be a budget thing most likely.

  • @kulldeepb
    @kulldeepb 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    what can i say , felt odd from starting but the ending wow so worst , whats the point of a story if its a fake story , only to see some actions

  • @EGENKIEROfficial
    @EGENKIEROfficial 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Plz explain what will happen if hier army isnt on the battlefield why would ishido loose why cant he just attack tornama

  • @THE_CHISAFARI
    @THE_CHISAFARI 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We Japanese know the outcome of the Battle of Sekigahara in the course of compulsory education.

  • @grinningwombat
    @grinningwombat 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they do anything else with this property, i think a movie would do just fine to please the people who wanted war

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'd prefer a prequel. Cause this is pretty much the end of the Sengoku Jidai. Not too much war left.

  • @anthonylee1417
    @anthonylee1417 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Disappointing ending. Rather sad that the series ended with a whimper.

  • @shooterxd2387
    @shooterxd2387 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really hope we get 12 episodes at least, I want to see Anjin-dono as a full fledged samurai, embracing his new fate and a years after with his grandchildren but in Japan, a mirror of the scene with his grandchildren in England. I would asume that instead of an old, frail blind man, the Blackthorne or at that point Anjin, would be more healthy looking

  • @wulfgarpl
    @wulfgarpl 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think show will totally split from books and real life events. They establish a base, now they can create own plot.

    • @justonecornetto80
      @justonecornetto80 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's unlikely to be another season because the source material has been used up. The last episode ends where the book does.
      My guess is that if there's any further expansion will depend heavily on Michaela Clavell as I believe she exercises creative control over her father's work which she's very protective of.

  • @oimate6778
    @oimate6778 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Much like others, im not gonna act like the e ding was abstract or anywhere near what we deserved. Im disappointed but it was still a phenomenal series.

  • @sburns2421
    @sburns2421 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why would anyone trust Ochiba

  • @clacliloy
    @clacliloy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    For geniuses loves art, poertry and politics the ending is Brilliant and Beautiful.
    For mainstream watchers who wants brutal green screens, the ending is bullshit

    • @ichigolegend2788
      @ichigolegend2788 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'd say I'm included in the mainstream watchers, and the ending is perfect.

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's not about green screens or action. A lot of people wanted the satisfaction of seeing Ishido's defeat, rather than "He'll be defeated, trust me, bro"."
      I am satisfied with the ending, they kept the quality high. But I would be lying if I said I didn't expect to see Ishido's defeat and suffer the consequences of his actions.

    • @HNCS2006
      @HNCS2006 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's called build up and pay off. There wasn't any pay off. Not even a scene to help us see Ishido dies. We are all human beings. Our emotions have been strung along and that emotion has been left hanging. That is what is meant by disappointment.

  • @alexandrostheodwris5004
    @alexandrostheodwris5004 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I called it at episode 7 there wouldnt be any battle 😂😂 was the episode all were made clear for any episode coming, 10th or 100th would be same

  • @pretty-white-lamb
    @pretty-white-lamb 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does Fuji become a Christian or a Buddhist nun?

    • @trashmesoftsoft
      @trashmesoftsoft 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Rumor has it she converted to Islam ☪️

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She speaks of a convent, so I'd say Christian.

  • @noooname2568
    @noooname2568 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thankful this is over. Started great, ended on a flop.

  • @gremlin633
    @gremlin633 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where to watch??

  • @pengenkaya9977
    @pengenkaya9977 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All that just for talking no battle 0/10

  • @moehasan7534
    @moehasan7534 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    yeah no this was a shit ending

  • @pedrodaniels5480
    @pedrodaniels5480 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I expected to see a lot of blood. I expected to see the last scene from the last samurai or Tom Cruise and Kasa Moto just fuck everybody up they didn't even get revenge for Maria. I didn't know this was gonna be a soap opera. I am very disappointed.

  • @EggersLenni
    @EggersLenni 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Did they even read the book???? Why they just make their own story! That would be far better! It´s a such a worse adapation!

  • @tatumshere6621
    @tatumshere6621 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Send me link where i can watch free

  • @Edi_Pine
    @Edi_Pine 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What a waste. I want samurai fight.

  • @siddharthb2633
    @siddharthb2633 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Bullshyt finish.

  • @atemegabites2251
    @atemegabites2251 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ending sucked . That’s all I
    Have to say

  • @Kermitgene
    @Kermitgene 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hahah the comments here are so polarising.

  • @nobody79110
    @nobody79110 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I am very disappointed episode 10 was most boring to me

  • @ProperBadger
    @ProperBadger 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ending was crap ngl

  • @LUCACAMPBELL-ny4qt
    @LUCACAMPBELL-ny4qt 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tadanobu Asano and Moeka Hoshi are the only ones who could act. The ending is shit and low budget.

  • @NegaTheKoreanBastard.
    @NegaTheKoreanBastard. 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Tonaraga didn't fool us the producers did! 😂😂

    • @newyorkcrop966
      @newyorkcrop966 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      and take a wild guess on who the producer is....

    • @VanVan-wk3qd
      @VanVan-wk3qd 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@newyorkcrop966🤣😭

    • @NegaTheKoreanBastard.
      @NegaTheKoreanBastard. 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@newyorkcrop966 Lmao Didn't know that toranaga was also the lead producer 🤣🤣🤦

  • @karlfloyd999
    @karlfloyd999 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Terrible ending

  • @TKFKU
    @TKFKU 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Worst adaptation ever, even worse than game of thrones and or the hobbit.

  • @lordampiaw6782
    @lordampiaw6782 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Such a shit show. I don't understand the lack of proper action. This should have been full of action. Why's one old damned Toranaga man hiding and sending people to their death? Ridiculous ending. No action, just pointless overrated tricks. I don't see the fuss about this show

    • @justonecornetto80
      @justonecornetto80 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      You've missed the point. The story is about the politics of feudal Japan and how an outsider is absorbed into it. James Clavell's novel was intended to offer westerners some insight into the oriental mindset, not be a screenplay for a Jackie Chan movie.

    • @MarkMark-un5vy
      @MarkMark-un5vy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You missed the whole point of the show. The show wasn't a turn your brain off and enjoy the slicing and dicing lol

    • @robertgalloup6171
      @robertgalloup6171 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@MarkMark-un5vy ANOTHER DA.....

    • @robertgalloup6171
      @robertgalloup6171 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MarkMark-un5vyDA

    • @ichigolegend2788
      @ichigolegend2788 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Watch the show again from the beginning, properly this time.