I am definitely aware of the recent situation with JustTheFacts and how he has disappeared off of the Internet. All I can really say is that I hope he faces justice as well as gets the help he needed.
To be honest those can be stylistic choices and don't mean or discreet some ones historical knowledge or even expertise. If you've got a target audience you produce content in a manor to suit them. Those are just incidental points, and videos that are like that can be more accessible for non academic individuals. Tho I do agree he has flawed history. The dude channel unfortunately no longer exist tho now cause he was a nonce
Based 🦅🦅🦅 Western civilization is saved from the dissolution of reactionary, conservative, trad monarchies like the German, Russian, and Austro-Hungarian Empires.
Austria-Hungary: semi-industrialized, unstable empire with a shitty army Russia: barely industrialized (improving later), extremely unstable empire with an extremely shitty army that got beaten up constantly Anglos: "He chose Austria over Russia, what an idiot!"
Then there is the fact that Bismarck alienated the southern German states with his Kulturkampf so breaking the German alliance with Austria, a nation held in high esteems by the majority Catholic southern German Kingdoms, could lead to said states withdrawal from the Empire.
Russia has far more potential as an ally. I mean ffs Russia collapsed into civil war, suffered mass famines (mostly man made) and then fought a war of anihilation in wich over 10% of their population died and still managed to stay as a superpower. The only reason they collapsed was their bad political and economic system.
@@ImperatorMachx A lot of people honestly forget that Austria also had to fight a 3 front war on its own at one point with all of the disadvantages the empire already had. What’s worst is that one of the fronts was in the mountains which is the worst place to fight.
I'm so glad that you made this video! I actually considered making one myself at some point because of how stupid it was. It really doesn't take much to debunk it which only shows how how little effort he puts in his videos and forces us to make the effort to debunk it. It's literally just one book that would help (the innocence of kaiser wilhelm ii). And the funniest thing is that he despite "dunking on the libs" is himself a liberal.
JustTheFacts be like Russian empire oppressing and killing minorities and peasants: o my gosh, so based and redpilled Wilhelm II improving the lives of Germans: o my gosh he’s a lunatic
@@ciclovitale6832 So you will also blame Bismarck for this. Because remember i didn't give a care for Polish. He literally sent troop in to crush Polish uprising to help Russia for Russian to have alliance and to have Russia out of the war when he fight France
Germany was the rising power and England did everything to prevent that. France wanted its lost territories back and so both had the goal of isolating Germany. This was seen in the Morocco crisis. Germany had no reason to go to war as it became the strongest nation economically and its fleet was getting stronger. When Russia lost to Japan, the Germans could have taken advantage. But Wilhelm wanted an alliance with Russia, which is the greatest fear of the Anglo-Saxons to this day. The tsar wanted to prevent Russia from mobilizing, but his order was not carried out. after receiving a telegraph from Wilhelm shortly before the war. Germany had to react quickly to the Russian mobilization because it would find itself in a war on two fronts. Everyone knew that a war would mean the end of the monarchies and that the revolutionary forces in Russia were particularly strong. That's why the tsar had no interest in war. There are quotes where English politicians clearly describe the goal of destroying Germany before it becomes too strong. The historian Niall Ferguson writes that Germany was not prepared because it did not arm itself enough in peacetime compared to the others.
It is really sad, how Kaiser Wilhelm only wanted to be friends with Britain (mostly because he was Queen Victorias Grandson -> the British being close family) then THEY turn him down many times, but afterwards HE was always and still is often blamed for ruining British/German relationship. In reality, souly for emotional reasons because of that family bond, he would never in his heart wanted to make Britain to be his enemy.
@@tiagomonteiro130 They absolutely shat their pants, as they saw how quickly Germany became so powerful. Of course Germany didn't have any bad/offensive plan in mind, but the Brits were a but stupid and didn't quite understand that, as their history for the previous centuries was violence (especially he navy with all the colonialism and so)
It's less to do with family, more to do with the fact that Britain didn't want Germany contesting its then-unchecked power over Europe. How's that working out for you, lads?
22:48 that is the dumbest thing i ever heard especially considering the germn french war ,the french Literally begged for revenge after 1871 . this was the original varsailles the french had every Intention of going to war against germany at some point
Actualy, not really. The government cited that whole thing, but keep in mind, the war ended in 1871. It has been 43 years, before the outbreak of ww1. By that point, do you reckon that the majority of french people, specialy the young ones, would even honestly care, given choice? And there was even a research, and it just confirms that majority of french people that even cared about the 1871 were old timers, and politicians, aka, people that either felt hurt over the results of the last war, or people who saw an oportunity in destroying the reich. young french people didnt even care for the Germans, and aside few Strassbourgian hiccups, they pretty much werent even bothered by the fact they lost a war to the germans
Its a shame how in many ways you could say the Entente succeeded in demonizing the Kaiser. All he wanted was a great nation and to be well beloved by his people and especially his family. What he went through during childhood was very brutal and sad. No one talks about this when someone is talking about the Kaiser. I'm a very big fan of him. He went to military school and he was trained to be the Kaiser. Yes he had some grudges towards people but he never wanted to start a war over or be hostile. I think he made alot of good decision like making Germany an industrial power buffing up their military and navy and making friends of Austria Hungary and soon the Ottomans and the Bulgarians which they all had a common enemy. I don't believe Wilhelm II was a terrible Kaiser but I do believe that the probabaganda from the brits, Russians and possibly France made him to be Satan himself.
@@rrrr-xj6ll he really wasn't. You say that because thats what everyone tells you about him. He was actually well beloved by his people and I think he was one of the best German kaiser in history.
@@BigBearGamer I don't care if he was loved by his people the man was incompetent. I would not call a Man who destroyed his empire the best leader of Germany Bismarck and Frederick the Great were far more impressive.
@@rrrr-xj6ll you realize his empire was thriving during his leadership. He boosted navy and military production and cared for the poor. The man didn't want to go to war but his cousins wanted war with him because they were jealous. Which forced him to make an alliance with Austria-Hungary if they ever go to war which they did.
@@BigBearGamer his empire was thriving even before he was a Kaiser yes he boasted the Navy which made England his enemy very smart decision .he and a specially his generals wanted war. In particular his generals wanted a war with Russia .Also his jealous cousins Bro Europe in the 19th century was not Europe of the middle ages . In the 19th century the power of many of the European monarchies was almost none existent France was a Republic in England parliament ruled supreme ever since the glorious revolution in Austria Hungary the Reichstag was pretty influential and even in Russia the tzar was some times influenced by Public opinion . I don't care if he gave free welfare to the poor I am not a socialist .In my opinion he was failure in foreign policy
It is good to see someone making a way more solid response video to something which seems more like a meme video anyways. Two additions i would have liked to see: 1. Sources. You take the time and use arguments and quotes, if you could give some sources in your description, that would top it of neatly. 2. I do have to debate the purpose of the fleet-expansion. For one, we always have to take official declarations with a hint of salt, so Wilhelm IIs statement about the fleet-purpose should be looked at further. Also there is the whole plan of the Risikoflotte (risk-fleet) by Admiral von Tirpitz, to sort of counterbalance Britains fleet in a time of crisis. Also you said, that the fleet was not meant to be against Britain at all, but follow it up that the trade protection makes it necessary, and to protect the trade against whose blockade? France and Britain. Otherwise it is good to see someone speak out with more in-depth facts and history.
On the second point, it still wouldn't be much of Wilhelm's fault if France and Britain were the ones doing the blockade. (At least in my opinion) And yeah sources are good to see.
To quote Kaiser Wilhelm II from The Exception (2016): “Am I to blame for every misfortune on this earth? I gave my life to the Fatherland, and this is my thanks? Nobody cares my navy betrayed me! Nobody remembers my army fell apart! Ludendorff, Bethmann, Tirpitz, where were they? Where were they? Where were they? After all I'd done for them, they stabbed me in the back! They lost me the war. They lost me my country.”
Great video! Im German and i hate it how the west demonized Wilhelm and blamed everything on him. Its just not right. I support a Monarchy for my country and i think is unfair how History blamed Wilhelm and Germany for all the worst in the world. Sure things also didnt whent as they should but thats how every Nation is. I dream sometimes about to returning back to that time where the world was at peace and all nations and people great in there own way. Thank you for this video makes me glad that other people think the same way.
Incredible video, really good response. JustTheFacts' video kind of convinced me before and you have now completely changed my mind, this makes much more sense and is held up with good sources and arguments
Technically the German empire is a semi constitutional monarchy with the German kaiser still holding some power and Austria Hungary is a constitutional dual monarchy with the Austrian kaiser being emperor of both Austria and Hungary
This is such a great video! I never knew half of what you talked about in this video before I watched it and always thought wilhem 2 was a bad monarch. If you're running short on ideas I think a video about who started ww1 would be very helpful, since so many people don't seem to understand who did it.
That this guy even calls the German Empire part of the West, is insanity. The Germans were BETWEEn the West and the East. They were a perfect balance, their own power that was more about fairniss, efficiency, organization, cultural strength without antagonizing everyone around them, like the West is known for, with brits, French and the USA as the most aggressive warmongers of history. This video is great, thank you for your explanations.
Germany is a part of western civilization bro 💀. They were built on the western ideals that were laid down by the Greeks, Romans & Catholic Church. They were a major player in the western world since the German invasions of Rome. And even Russia and other Eastern European nations were considered part of the west up until the rise of communism.
@@JL220_77 The BRD right now is a assimilated germany by the West. germany ruled by germans was NEVER part of the british-french West. Learn about history, mate.
@@KubusSc7 you’re just looking at this through a contemporary lense. Germany is fundamentally part of western civilization, they have been involved in the west for thousands of years via war, conquest, trade, and spread of ideas, they follow western branches of Christianity, they use the Latin alphabet, celebrate western holidays and use western formal dress and etiquette, and their buildings are in western architecture styles for hundreds of years such as gothic, neoclassical, renaissance, baroque, Romanesque etc. Germany ESPECIALLY has an inter-connected history to France, due to both nations originating from the Frankish/Merovingian Empire but going their separate paths once the empire was split up due to Gavelkind. Also Republicanism has been destroying tradition ALL OVER THE WORLD, not just in Germany.
I think the modern term “the west” is being confused here with “Western Civilization”. Yes, Germany is a part of Western Civilization, but I wouldn’t consider them Western in the “modern liberal Anglo-American tradition”.
Although justthefacts can make good videos that convince you, the way he represents it is truly the worst way to do it, as someone else had mentioned before he uses wojack to represent his argument through one side as (and I hate using this word) the based and red pilled gigachad and the other as the virgin loser it's honestly really pathetic and I hope He changes his ways
@@HissPhunnyCat Why most of the technology today came from it like Cars it also sa the senter of culture science, technology and the country of poets thinkers and Soldiers it also made the German healthcare System that is still in use today and the Pansions for old people
@@tiagomonteiro130 also not being a fan of someone doesn't mean i hate them i still have some respect for wilhelm ii since he fired bismarck and was one of the few hohenzollerns during ww2 that didn't support the nazis in fact he despised them
Why did Edward VII hate Wilhelm so much that he'd ruin relations between Germany and Britain? Did Wilhelm ask him too many questions when Wilhelm was a child?
Compared to the Treaty of Trianon or the Treaty of Saint Germaine, The Treaty of Versailles was pretty standard for a treaty in the early 1900s, considering the destruction in the Great War. I believe that war shame was one of the factors at how the Nazis got to power.
@@frederickoftheartic2209 No it wasn't Germany was a complete shithole becouse of the treaty it was occupied by France and Belgium got Gold and other precious material stolen had to pay money that it didn't have wich made health care and aducation worse becouse the money had to be taken from it many people had no work and were homeless an unstable government was put into place Prostitution and Prostitution of children was very high the crime rate was very high then all the communist uprisings the demilitazation and blame for ww1 and that's not even all completely destroyed Germany with that treaty
The treaty of Versailles actually wasn’t severe at all if you compare it to Brest litovsk Trianon or even just Frankfurt Germany got off quite easily for a loosing power
@@luisandrade2254 It wasn't severe lmao that treaty was designt to destroy Germany you know how many people commited suicide and were unemployed and starved and had to prostetute Themselves or their Children to stay alive people in the Weimarer republic burned money to keep Themselves warm becouse it was worthless a bread costed a whole pay check what is not severe about that
I would add that the alliance of the Three Emperors also existed to ensure that no independent Polish State could reform, as such a state existing would threaten the borders off all three nations. The rise of Pan-Slavism in Russia meant that many say the Poles as brothers and that it was the duty of the Russians to take up the cause of liberating the rest of Poland from German occupation.
15:42 Note we the boers and boer republics did not revolt, in the first freedom war we rose up and took our nation (ZAR - Transvaal) back after the British refused to give back our land and independence as they forced the deal on us to fight the Zulu, the second freedom war was build on mining and taxes and the British leaving soldiers on the border of Transvaal, something they where asked not to do during the heightened tensions and political talks, the British somewhat listened and took away all but 1 division and then told the boers their was no military units on the border, the jamision raid also led people to believe the military unit could invade just like Jameson did and the boers asked the germans for ammo and modern guns and cannons and paid in gold, their was also plenty of talk about the good kaiser and his and his people's aid to our war effort, we even rebelled at the start of ww1 over not wanting to be under British rule and not wanting to fight the good kaiser nad and his empire.
OK, Justthefacts was 100% wrong about the Boer War point. The Kaiser had a legit reason to do what he did, although it was a tough call, and it isn't even what ended Anglo German relations. However, I think he has a point with the naval arms race. You are correct that it was the British who made it a race, which justifies Wilhelm morally, but not tactically. Long term, yes, Germany was going to need to expand its navy, but short term, an alliance with Britain was way more valuable than South American trade. The point on the alliance of the three emperors is mixed. Maybe Wilhelm would have had to discard the alliance eventually, but it seems like there was no reason for him to do it right then and there. If circumstances forced his hand, then that would be that, but as far as I can tell there is no reason he couldn't have kept it going as long as possible the way Bismark did, despite the obvious problems.
JustTheFacts when a cringe liberal (his mom) starts a chain reaction that leads to the downfall of the western civilization (delete his "cheese pizza" collection which makes him very sad)
Wait, I thought the Kaiser of Germany still had final say, despite having a Parliament? Great video by the way, I've had a soft spot for the Kaiser Wilhelm, he wasn't perfect, but the Anglo-American Propaganda is truly strong. It’s a damn shame, because JustTheFacts has a great video on Corporatism and some other stuff, but then he comes out with stuff that makes you go WHAT?! Great video and keep up the great work. Take care and Peace. ✌🏻
There is always the Chance of persuasion, and Wilhelm in this case was pressured because his Ministers kept telling him it would turn the Public against him. So yes while he does indeed have the Final say, at times the Parliament can slip between the cracks and persuade or pressure him to act.
@@Lavader_ Okay, Thanks man. P.S. Can I leave a link of this video in the comments under JustTheFacts’ latest video? This is probably a stupid question, but I just thought I let you know, it could start an interesting discussion, or it could lead to a mess in the comments.
Its also good to mention Germany wasnt entirely constitutional monarchy, at least in a sense of what we understand nowadays. Germany, as well as Austria Hungary, were semi constitutional monarchies, were the Monarch holds some power, but otherwise, the governing is left in hands of parliament. This does not mean Kaiser is the top dog, nor that the parliament is in charge, as the german kaiser was pressured often into some decisions due to the public.
There was an upsurge in anti-British feeling in Germany during the Boer War in 1899-1902 and again during the Agadir Crisis in 1911. For the most part, the kaiser's anti-British policies were about catering to public opinion. Britain entered World War I when Germany invaded Belgium and France because Britain had longstanding treaty commitments with both countries. The pre-war rivalries about colonies and navies get a lot of attention, but they are not what led to war. The Anglo-German colonial rivalry was resolved by a treaty concluded in early 1914. As for the German High Seas Fleet, it never left the North Sea. Its purpose was strictly to face off with the main British fleet based at Scapa Flow. It wasn't built to promote international trade or empire.
Lol the new German navy was to protect the German trade and even if it was to face the British navy i don't see anything wrong with that why should Germany not be allowed to have a navy also Britain made an alliance with France becouse it was about to lose the arms race against Germany and only managed to win by combining the French with the British navy also anti British propaganda was in Germany oh wow good that Britain never had any anti German propaganda right that's by the way irony also you people always pull out the Germany invaded Belgium card wgen Britain is the one who whent through greece even though greece never wanted to be involved in this war
Well the German empire wasn’t a democracy it was like a mix between autocracy and democracy like many monarchies at the time as the people could vote and the reichstag did decide on laws and the money policy but they couldn’t suggest laws and the entirety of the executive powers lay directly or indirectly in the kaisers hands. Though the Bundesrat could suggest laws which was made from representatives of the executive from the various German states which were mostly similar to the empire as a whole though there were exceptions.
On the three emperor thing he once actually came close to restore it but the Russian ministers etc said no though their tsar was in favor One could argue if he chose Russia he could also ally Italy which might have made stuff different
@@tiagomonteiro130 constitutional monarch means different things to different people on the most basic level it just means the powers of the monarch are restricted by a constitution And on the most basic line parlamentary democracy is the same but the power is limited by a Parlament. Depending on how far it is limited it can be more or less democratic like some of the modern monarchies are also called constitutional/parlamentary monarchy Sometimes these two words are meant interchangeably and sometimes people think one is more democratic then the other it is a play with words
@@sergeantsharkseant Was Germany a Constitutional Monarchy like Britain, because I thought the Kaiser had more power than say the British one? Although, perhaps not the same as Russia’s
@@frontgamet.v1892 also said old man had tantrums and threatened to leave office everytime he disagreed with something but poor willy had to comply because he knew he was nothing without someone holding his hand
The other Guy: Grabs "facts" of the Winners side This dude: Grabs real facts from the loses side I love you for supporting my lovely Kaiser as a German. I still wished for a return of the German Empire And a Kaiser I really hate when people criticise the Kaiser for things that aren't real
I always found impressive how Guillaume II looks like Louis XIV but unlike him he didn't success to establish a German Hegemony in Europe and make the XXth century a german century
Short answer, no. Kaiser Wilhelm was not a bad leader nor a bad person, he thrived for peace and stability throughout europe, as well as nothing but the best for his people
Saying the German empire was democratic is a stretch, because the Reichstag (the parlament) had little to no power and the one significant one (the granting of the war budget) could be pressured into allowing through declaring a war and then asking for the budget, most of the power lied in the Reichsrat (the upper chamber) an un-elected house of representetives which was dominated by the Prussians and because the chancellor was also the prime minister of Prussia he had all the say in decision making, and because the chancellor was only appointed by the Kaiser and could be removed at any time, with no reason, so the chancellor did everything the Kaiser said or else he would be fired. So in the end all the decision making was done by the Kaiser, or the chancellor if the Kaiser didn't want to rule (like with Bismarck). It was designed this way by Bismarck to make it look like a liberal democracy similar to Britain, while actually being closer to Russia, you could compare it to the cheap and weak constitution the Tsar made after the huge protest in 1905.
Für mich bleibt unser geliebter Kaiser Wilhelm im Gedenken was er für meine Grosseltern war - ein guter Herrscher und ein guter Mensch . 💔🥀RIP Ausserdem.1000 mal besser als alles was danach kam einschließlich heute ! 🖤🤍❤ 🖤🤍❤ 🖤🤍❤
if german empire wouldve survived that leads to 2 major questions 1. are they victorious in ww1? 2. does it even happen/involve germany? if former is answered with yes, consider germany becomming like the french are today. Chauvinistc nation, that only accepts themselves and would see themselves as Ubermensch. Maybe not genocidal, but trust me, you would hate them every second. Heck, if you want better comparison, look at how people who hate america stereotype america. for latter, i think somewhat tame france, altough expect some crazy and wacky ideas coming through their heads. there are thousands of different factors, so its hard to tell.
@@MoloIongo Not exactly accurate. He got spicy WWII and other roleplay private messages leaked and got face doxxed and name doxxed. The female's age that was involved has not been confirmed, only the content of these sessions. Remember that people often pretend to be ages that they are not. The claim is that she was of an age that is unlawful in most U.S states but none of the claims say she was young enough to accurately categorize him as you have. (Watering down these terms is deeply dangerous and hurts real victims) Further, there is no confirmation since there has been no trial since the leakers didn't just go to the cops. One may use the content of the roleplay sessions as evidence of him being in this category but this is fictional which of course doesn't count. I'll be honest and say I'm deeply skeptical of the claims of the leakers despite the content of the leaks since they didn't just go to the cops like any normal person would do if they believed he was doing something unlawful. There has also been no media coverage or law enforcement involvement at all. Meaning either they still didn't report this or they did and no law was actually violated like if she had lied of her age or if roleplay isn't legally actionable.
honestly, im not sure if he did it first, considering Namibia was made as a Lebensraum colony to begin with. Not saying he is innocent, but Im not sure if he should take the blame for the colony to be made for such heinous purposes.
@@Ami-jc2oo considering the man actualy tried making an alliance with China somewhen in 1910s, before the outbreak of the war, I dont think he made it out of racist ideals, altough its hard to tell, considering his entire diplomatic policy was that of "now i want this, now i want that" and he would often switch sides
@@HissPhunnyCatill say this, im kind of tired of people bringing up Herero. Like, TOGO IS RIGHT THERE edit: that means find original material to mention.
As a historian, I have my own reasons for disliking Wilhelm II. While I do think JTF was onto something with this, I don't agree with the clearly ideological nature of his position. Wilhelm was definitely a flawed individual from a young age who let his own flaws bleed into his governance of Germany. Contrasted with figures that governed Germany and Europe at-large in the previous generation, Wilhelm's powers of pragmatism were weak at best. He - undeniably - acted in a manner that ultimately forced together Russia, the UK and France - three countries that initially had little reason to ally with each other. And in the end, this blunder among others costed Germany dearly. With that said - I don't believe that Wilhelm was THE problem. Especially when it comes to the start of WWI. It's clear he was influenced by men around him - both in regards to the war, and into giving up most of his power (IE Ludendorff and Hindenburg). In the end, Wilhelm received a worse reputation than he's due because of actions during this war that were largely out of Wilhelm's control.
I've been saying for the past 35 years that WWI was started and precipitated by England, and not Germany! England lusted after Germany's few and far between colonies for themselves; they were afraid of Germany's burgeoning industrial might and were paranoid enough to believe that one day it would be aimed against them, despite the fact that Germany had no such ambitions, much less any interest in doing so. When I make this statement, I wish to emphasize that I'm not referring to the English people as such, but the greedy and despicable ambitions of the Royal Families of England and France at large during that period in history, all living their lives as though the whole world belonged to them by right and to no other, not to mention that they always believed that the US could be relied upon to in a word, bail them out, pay their bills, finance their selfish and unjust wars, and with our taxpayers' money, to say nothing of our blood! And the worst part of that is that we have always obliged them, and to whatever extent that they arrogantly and presumptuously demanded!
15:00 I don't quite understand what you mean by this, because Germany building a fleet solely to match Britain's naval power would undoubtedly make it look like Germany was preparing to fight Britain. If Germany expanded their navy for another reason other than to match Britain's naval power, then at least it wouldn't look like they were targeted at the British.
the thing is, german command didnt at first even consider british as a threat, and by that, i mean "why should we fear them, we will not be seen fighting one another" Plus, consider that the idea was to either start a buildup of cruisers, or battleships, each having different bonuses and set backs. While i agree it did become a small naval arms build up, the original intention was not to be british rival, heck, untill the third build up, they didnt even care and didnt even bother looking at the british, because to them, it was just a self serving mission.
Man, every time I watch this I just get a little sad. JTF was a cool TH-camr. And I don’t think any of his videos got archived. So this is kinda like, a last “Real Video”. I can see from him.
@@logpo5402 TH-cam deletes posts like that. The video is called "What is the best government?" by Break the Rules. It was a panel discussion with four people.
Its is true that the German Empire had the most modern and widespread elections but these elections were not counting even close to what the elections in other countries for example GB did. So you could have been talking about a constitutional monarchy without “Gewaltenteilung” and authoritarian elements
Well because it was build by the arch conservative Bismarck of course. Bismarck wasn't know for liberal constitution or anything that is democracy. Worst model it self like Britian. He rather shoot himself. Also no surprise his system was adapted by Japanese which year later lead to their military authorian before WW2.
Good video. Also that guy thinks that capitalism is when attacking China and stealing their resources, lol. He should probably not speak about free trade and economics, when he has no idea.
He was the product of two factions of government; liberal and conservative. His parents were liberals, but the government headed by Otto Von Bismark was mostly conservative. There was also growing antipathy and jealousy to England. This resulted in a confused childhood exacerbated by his ungrowing arm and looking weak because of a disability. His decisions were based on a need to placate the wishes and demands of the rising German state. At the same time, he had an underlying desire to simply be a British gentleman. This all resulted in a very confused individual. You could spend all day and into tomorrow "Phil"osophizing Kaiser Bill and ultimately; who gives a dam about him? All I care about are the millions he could've saved and didn't because of his poor little problems. This goes for all the European "elite": Haig, Petain, Foche, the Romanovs. The most important thing obtained from WWI was the end of these people, their ideas of government, their deaths and our lives . . or what was left.
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how Germany's cooperation with the Ottoman Empire under Kaiser Wilhelm II. could be justified in the context of the Armenians and Greeks, specifically the Pontic Greeks, considering the systematic oppression and even genocide that took place.
Armenian genocide started around 1915. Aka during WW1. At that point Ottomans and Germans were already allies. As for Greeks the actions of the Greece was the main reason that radicalized the Ottoman empire in the first place. Greece's(and also rest of the Balkan League's) genocidal policies during the Balkan Wars resulted in over 2 million Muslim refugees to escape to the Ottomans due to ethnic cleansings. Prior to the 1912 Balkan Wars, Ottomans were ruled by the liberal Kamil Pasha government who supported a more decentralized empire with local autonomy and minority language rights. First Balkan War ended all of that and resulted in the collapse of the Kamil Pasha government it was only after that Enver Pasha launched his military coup and took over empire, creating the WW1 era Ottoman government we all know.
@@simulacrumpilot2777 Tell me more about the Balkan League's "genocidal policies", if you like. Admittedly, I am not read up too much on their policies, but it is important to know that the Pontic Greeks were not citizens of the newly established Greek state (after 400 years of slavery, and I will not just grand you anything else on this). Now, if you are, for example, referring to the Siege of Tripolitsa, there are important background informations on this. For example, preceding the siege, which took place at the height of the Greek War of Independence, there were massacres happening at Smyrna, Constantinople and Cyprus, where tens of thousands of Christians were slaughtered, including many clergy and with people not even participating in the revolts. The Patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, Gregory V., even condemned the revolution and preached obedience, yet he was publicly hanged, on Easter Sunday, the most important day for the Christians. At Smyrna a Mullah was even executed for refusing to bless the murder of the Christians. Also, 20 days preceding the siege, there is the destruction and massacre of Samothrace. Now, imagine what is going on behind the walls of Tripolitsa, at the ongoing battles, hearing of all those atrocities during the height of the War of Independence after 400 years of slavery, while awaiting furiously for the walls of Tripolitsa to fall. Keep also in mind that it was not an officially trained military fighting for the Greeks. This is not meant to justify the massacre that ensued after the fights, just a bit of context. Kolokotronis, an important leader figure, tried to prevent the killings, asking in advance for Tripolitsa to be surrendered and them leave, and even trying to stop the killings from happening after the siege. However, it was even difficult for him to keep himself together and not be swayed emotionally after what the Turks were continuously doing. One of the first things he did entering the city was ordering a tree at the marketplace to be cut down, on which Greeks were always hanged. And how would these justify the Genocide of the Pontic Greeks? Especially after there had already been a massive retaliation of the Ottomans with the massacre of Chios, where abound three times as many Greeks were slaughtered? By the way, I will be very sceptical on points mentioned because of the ongoing Turkish Propaganda (where the state still views people like Topal Osman, who perpatrated the two mentioned genocides, as war heroes, while denying the genocide even happened). Just wanted to mention that.
@@panperl1212 Tripolitsa was almost a hundred years before Balkan Wars and mostly irrelevant to the current discussion so I don't understand why you write that entire rant there. Anyway, for the Balkan Wars themselves I'll mostly copy paste mostly, here "The heavy and rapid defeat of the Ottoman army prevented the safe evacuation of the Muslim civilians, making them a clear target for the Balkan League forces invading the region. As a result, it is estimated that, in total, up to 632,000-1.5 million Ottoman Muslims perished outside of Albania and c. 400,000-813,000 became refugees by the end of the Second Balkan War." These policies weren't limited to just Ottoman Muslims btw since Albanians also(mostly at the hands of Serbians) also faced a similar fate. "There were various instances where Albanian communities were targeted especially by Serbian and Montenegrin forces. According to contemporary accounts, c. 20,000-25,000 Albanians in the Kosovo Vilayet were killed in the first two to four months of the conflict. The number of Albanian deaths exceeded 120,000 by the end of the Second Balkan War. Hundreds of thousands of Albanians were deported throughout the Balkan Wars." end quote. Also another tidbit. Did you know that Balkan Muslims were hugely overrepresanted in the WW1 era CUP government? Nearly 90% of the party consisted of Turks and other Muslims from Balkans while Anatolians despite having a larger population in the party overall was only 10% of the CUP. This extends to the infamous 3 pashas themselves. Djemal was originally from the Greek island of Mytilene, Enver was himself a half Albanian and the most powerful of the 3 Talaat was from Kardzhali Bulgaria.
@@panperl1212 Anyway, for Pontics firstly I don't understand why are you even bringing up Chios in relation to them considering that's an island in Aegean thousand of kilometers away from Pontus and wasn't even inhabited by the Pontic Greeks. Secondly, although it definitely doesn't justify the Ottoman actions at the time most Pontic Greeks, their academia and media supported the Megali Idea and the continuation of what was started during the Balkan Wars. People like Nikos Kapetinidis(one of the most influential Pontic Greeks at the time) argued for these in his newspaper Epochi which at the time was one of if not the biggest Pontic Greek newspaper. These like I said before might not justify the Ottoman actions but it does put some things into perspective especially considering how paranoid they've become after their catastrophic failure in the Balkan Wars.
@@simulacrumpilot2777 Well, I understand the Ottomans getting paranoid at any Greek citizen supporting the Megali Idea, but rightly so, considering the history of the Ottomans. Was it unethical for Pontic Greeks to support this idea? This is exactly why I was mentioning the Greek War of Independence. It was obvious that the Pontic Greeks would also hope for their land to become independent in the future, especially to the Ottomans, who came not as colonisers, but as conquerors, enslaving the Christians for centuries on their own land. As I said, I understand there being this heat of the moment, the Muslim losses at the Balkan Wars and the fear of losing even more, but all this loss did not come to some innocent bystander. We should also consider the extent of the planning behind the genocide. It wasn't just one moment that made it into a genocide. It wasn't just a mistake. It was calculated, Turks profited off of it and, as mentioned before, main perpetrators were (and are still) celebrated.
So Sweden Norway the Belgium the Netherlands united kingdom are all not democratic eventough they are considered the most democratic countries in the world
@@palastofhistory4026 if you are refearing to the democracy index yes. Whats the conclusion between my statement and your statement? That the democracy index is trash and funded to show a relation between capitalism and democracy in order to hide the awfull lot of massmurder and facism behind the free marked mask.
Lavader, that you don't understand history is understandable, but when you actively try to mask the truth about the German Empire being some sort of "democracy," your ignorance is frightening.
I'd say yes, out of the three german kaisers he was the worst, reasons are, number one he lead his country to destruction, two he was a idiot in external affairs aka the naval arms race, the interview with the british Times, the time when he didn't stop austria hungary from declaring war despite him saying that "all justifications for war against Serbia has been dealt with" after Serbia accepted 9 out of the 10 decrees of the ultimation to Serbia and when he failed to stop the Hindenburg and Ludendorff dictatorship. Though he did make very good decisions in his internal policies. So I can't really say that he was better than a kaiser who united germany with the help of the greatest diplomat ever in otto von bismarck or a kaiser who only ruled for 100 days and did nothing.
Another thing the german empire and austria hungary were not a constitutional monarchy, it was more of a mix of pure autocracy like the Russian empire and the constitutional monarchy of Britain which was effectively a democracy but with a figure head leader, so since kaiser wilhelm the 2nd had many a political and military power the german empire wasn't a constitutional monarchy. Also while what you said about the naval arms race was mostly correct a certain admiral Alfred von tirpitz did twist it to his own benefit by actively wanting to make a fleet strong enough to get concessions out of Britain or to atleast be around the same level as britain in terms of naval power and since in ww1 Germany was the only country on earth with the capability of challenging the royal navy I'd say that tirpitz succeeded. And kaiser wilhelm the 2nd had the power to fire tirpitz he could have stopped him. Also britain had the well known 2 power standard which made clear that they would have a fleet which is larger than the 2nd and 3rd largest fleets in the world and when germany became 2nd place that caused a increase in the size of the Royal navy. Though Britain did escalate it with the launch of hms dreadnought.
1, youre mixing up the Kaisers. 2. Naval arms race was only considered for a long time an arms race by the british, and solely the british, the germans downright went "what about the british, who cares, we arent their enemy, and neither are they ours", and it only escalated into such, cause the british tried to make sure they are the top dogs at all times. 3. Tirpitz stuff is accurate, only in that he presented his ideas to the kaiser, and was more convincing than others, and Kaiser, trying to do as he thought would be best, chose an option that made sense to him, based on the facts presented. 4. Semi constitutional monarchy. Not saying youre wrong about saying it wasnt constitutional, but saying it was absolutist monarchy isnt entirely true, considering most events were even pressured onto the kaiser. 5. He wasnt an idiot, but a zigg zagger. Idiot would force everyone against him, he just switched external policies too quickly. 6. He was not even in Germany when the affair with serbia was happening, he was on a vacation, and was just notified the government went all in and said "yes" to austrians wanting war. And keep in mind, Austria pushed into the balkans for power. All it did, was assure them the germans will come to help them in case things go south, which didnt have to, had Russia not mobilised in defense of Serbia, which was a guarantee made, to assure Russia can influence balkans into its own sphere of influence. 7. Otto von Bismarck was a man that barely managed to keep the alliance of 3 emperors together, or rather, didnt, and should i mention his internal policies, that were basicaly making germans fight one another? You know, the Kulturkampf? the one about ending catholcis and south germans, turning them more northern and protestant? Also ideas like evicting "socialists" from even having the basic civil right to live? Something that made even the parliament go "What the hell, Bismarck?" 8. At that point in the war, he had no choice. Hindenburg and Ludendorff were generals who controlled the frontlines, with Hindenburg being the face of German Army, and Ludendorff the brains behind Hindenburg. And by that point, war already went too far, for anyone to even try. If you want my take on what he did wrong, and should be noted of, was the Elsass Lothringen affair, zigg zagging policy, shouldve stayed in one side, that interview in British times, african colonies like Togo and Namibia.
The thing is, Russia was underdeveloped empire with many social problems and rather weak military. Sure, they were impressive, but considering how much of a beating they took in Russo-Japanese war... Consider this. Austria had industry spread around its country, and Russias industry was centered around Petrograd and Moscow for the longest time. Austria and Russia were countries with social problems, though major thing is, austrians were still considered south germans. And alligning against Austria could mean south germany would start hating the monarchy and would seek to join austria, or downright rebel.
@@blugaledoh2669 honestly, yeah. And Im saying that as someone who does not like the british and probably masturbates furiously over the idea of Mittelafrika
id say his father, out of virtue of not being that active. Sure, he had cancer, but his short inactive reign did allow some things to come into fruition, and some men ruled for even less days. Thats not to say Friedrich III is the worst man ever, but were talking worst kaiser Alternatively, id say Wilhelm I, for being easily bullied by Bismarck for the longest time, but thats debatable, and im not sure about Bismarck before 1880
@@tavernburner3066 from german kaisers we only got 3 to choose, and Holy roman emperors are their own breed Id say Wilhelm I, but i think inactivness of Friedrich is worse
Source : I want him tobe that Kaiser Wilhelm was Christian and improved the lives of German workers he was lov3d by the Russian Tzar and invited many times he made a 2 hour speech on why Germany needs a bigger navy to protect it's growing trade as one of the biggest exporters in the world to this day
Thinking in German Empire had 3 kaisers, with the first kaiser uniting several kingdoms, principalities and dukedoms after a glorious victory in a war with a major european country, the second kaiser only reigning for 90 days, though with progressive polices and ideas and a hero of the wars of unification, and there is the third kaiser envolved with various scandals, even though he was sometimes not directly envolved, always trying to show german strength by whatever means although ofending other nations, with almost of Europe hating Germany because of that and leading the German Empire for their end in defeat, I think he isn't the best. But in other ways if you see Wilhelm I made almost any effort to build the German Empire while Bismarck did it. And Wilhelm II acted in that way probably because the mistreat of his mother, who was a good princess but a horrible mother to him.
so the only good out come out of the collapse of the league of the 3 E's should have been choosing Russia. both can even partition Austria to get the last Germans into the empire and Russia could get Galicia and full influence with the Balkans. Hungary could be carved out to be a stated aligned with Germany or both
Choosing Russia over Austria would be a very risky move since there was the risk of Catholic South German states getting sympathetic towards Austria instead. In the most extreme options it could've even lead to a German Civil War.
@@simulacrumpilot2777 Get real, this isn't the 30 years war. As even then catholics and protestants fought on one side. Like Italy a catholic country fought and annexed Papel land. By the 19th century religion by far was separated from the state in Europe.
@@nicbahtin4774 Do you know ANYTHING about Bismarck's Kulturkampf and the alienation of the Southern German states due to that? German unity at the start of 20th century was still far from guaranteed.
@@simulacrumpilot2777 You talk about fragmentation of unity but compared to what ? In England couldn't get elected to parliament until 1829 and I'm not gonna even start about the Irish treatment. In Prussia you had attempted to unite Lutherans and Calvinists into a single church even before forming Germany. So every country had different way of pushing for unity and there were always some losers that probably made their way to the US cause of this. Nothing special
I am definitely aware of the recent situation with JustTheFacts and how he has disappeared off of the Internet. All I can really say is that I hope he faces justice as well as gets the help he needed.
he will get help by clearing minefields in Ukraine after the war
@@deutschesvaterlandfankanal no, Putin would never allow this. He is pure garbage for all political sides.
Thx bro
JTF needs to be brought to justice for the terrorists attacks he committed!
@@jasonbuford2437 whud
You can tell he's an expert historian when he uses HOI4 music and portraits
To be honest those can be stylistic choices and don't mean or discreet some ones historical knowledge or even expertise. If you've got a target audience you produce content in a manor to suit them.
Those are just incidental points, and videos that are like that can be more accessible for non academic individuals.
Tho I do agree he has flawed history. The dude channel unfortunately no longer exist tho now cause he was a nonce
Very sad that Entante propaganda is still prevelant even in today's modern world.
And you are idiot to believe the propaganda of the Kaiser
Based 🦅🦅🦅 Western civilization is saved from the dissolution of reactionary, conservative, trad monarchies like the German, Russian, and Austro-Hungarian Empires.
(((Entente)))
@@itnotmeitu3896 /pol/ when nations with perfectly sound geopolitical and cultural reasons for hating Germany hate Germany
@@rrrr-xj6llSorry man, I know it's a typo or auto correct, but,
"The kisser" made me laugh more than I should have.
Austria-Hungary: semi-industrialized, unstable empire with a shitty army
Russia: barely industrialized (improving later), extremely unstable empire with an extremely shitty army that got beaten up constantly
Anglos: "He chose Austria over Russia, what an idiot!"
Then there is the fact that Bismarck alienated the southern German states with his Kulturkampf so breaking the German alliance with Austria, a nation held in high esteems by the majority Catholic southern German Kingdoms, could lead to said states withdrawal from the Empire.
In defense of austria, they simply had garbage fire generals, not really a bad army so minor W for austria
Russia has far more potential as an ally. I mean ffs Russia collapsed into civil war, suffered mass famines (mostly man made) and then fought a war of anihilation in wich over 10% of their population died and still managed to stay as a superpower. The only reason they collapsed was their bad political and economic system.
@@ImperatorMachx A lot of people honestly forget that Austria also had to fight a 3 front war on its own at one point with all of the disadvantages the empire already had. What’s worst is that one of the fronts was in the mountains which is the worst place to fight.
@@prayingpat6254 and the balkan front has moutains and rivers
not only have I learnt a lot, but my love for the German empire has grown. Nice video!
Gott mit uns.
@@JMusar795 Gott min uns
I'm so glad that you made this video!
I actually considered making one myself at some point because of how stupid it was.
It really doesn't take much to debunk it which only shows how how little effort he puts in his videos and forces us to make the effort to debunk it.
It's literally just one book that would help (the innocence of kaiser wilhelm ii).
And the funniest thing is that he despite "dunking on the libs" is himself a liberal.
JustTheFacts be like
Russian empire oppressing and killing minorities and peasants: o my gosh, so based and redpilled
Wilhelm II improving the lives of Germans: o my gosh he’s a lunatic
Wilhelm 2 trying to genocide the Poles:
@@ciclovitale6832 don’t mind literally everyone trying that as well as him creating the first polish state in years
@@EndoClaw Did the Austrians try to genocide the Poles?
@@ciclovitale6832 So you will also blame Bismarck for this. Because remember i didn't give a care for Polish. He literally sent troop in to crush Polish uprising to help Russia for Russian to have alliance and to have Russia out of the war when he fight France
@@zyanego3170 not much but they wasn't willing to give up any Pole territory do they.
To me it looks like JustTheFacts was too focused on the entertainment of the video alongside doing only surface level research
He's just an idiot
He was too focused on grooming kids
too bad being more focused on entertainment didn't help him be funny
didnt even use the proper soyjacks, he used the mutt merican jack as the Austrians
@@JL220_77finally an actual traditionalist
Why tf is Russia portrayed as Ben Shapiro.
Destroying liberals via Orthodox autocracy and nationality
Funny, considering how anti-semitism was rampant during that time in Russia.
They had a lot of Jews
hi oney fan
Germany was the rising power and England did everything to prevent that. France wanted its lost territories back and so both had the goal of isolating Germany. This was seen in the Morocco crisis.
Germany had no reason to go to war as it became the strongest nation economically and its fleet was getting stronger.
When Russia lost to Japan, the Germans could have taken advantage. But Wilhelm wanted an alliance with Russia, which is the greatest fear of the Anglo-Saxons to this day. The tsar wanted to prevent Russia from mobilizing, but his order was not carried out. after receiving a telegraph from Wilhelm shortly before the war.
Germany had to react quickly to the Russian mobilization because it would find itself in a war on two fronts. Everyone knew that a war would mean the end of the monarchies and that the revolutionary forces in Russia were particularly strong. That's why the tsar had no interest in war. There are quotes where English politicians clearly describe the goal of destroying Germany before it becomes too strong.
The historian Niall Ferguson writes that Germany was not prepared because it did not arm itself enough in peacetime compared to the others.
It is really sad, how Kaiser Wilhelm only wanted to be friends with Britain (mostly because he was Queen Victorias Grandson -> the British being close family) then THEY turn him down many times, but afterwards HE was always and still is often blamed for ruining British/German relationship. In reality, souly for emotional reasons because of that family bond, he would never in his heart wanted to make Britain to be his enemy.
Dude just wanted a Navy i don't know what they saw wrong in it
@@tiagomonteiro130 They absolutely shat their pants, as they saw how quickly Germany became so powerful. Of course Germany didn't have any bad/offensive plan in mind, but the Brits were a but stupid and didn't quite understand that, as their history for the previous centuries was violence (especially he navy with all the colonialism and so)
@@DPPOfficial Also look at the industrial map and economy it obviously Germany will be the highest in Europe surpassing Britain.
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 That's why they were scared so much
It's less to do with family, more to do with the fact that Britain didn't want Germany contesting its then-unchecked power over Europe.
How's that working out for you, lads?
22:48 that is the dumbest thing i ever heard especially considering the germn french war ,the french Literally begged for revenge after 1871 . this was the original varsailles the french had every Intention of going to war against germany at some point
Actualy, not really. The government cited that whole thing, but keep in mind, the war ended in 1871. It has been 43 years, before the outbreak of ww1. By that point, do you reckon that the majority of french people, specialy the young ones, would even honestly care, given choice?
And there was even a research, and it just confirms that majority of french people that even cared about the 1871 were old timers, and politicians, aka, people that either felt hurt over the results of the last war, or people who saw an oportunity in destroying the reich. young french people didnt even care for the Germans, and aside few Strassbourgian hiccups, they pretty much werent even bothered by the fact they lost a war to the germans
Its a shame how in many ways you could say the Entente succeeded in demonizing the Kaiser. All he wanted was a great nation and to be well beloved by his people and especially his family. What he went through during childhood was very brutal and sad. No one talks about this when someone is talking about the Kaiser. I'm a very big fan of him. He went to military school and he was trained to be the Kaiser. Yes he had some grudges towards people but he never wanted to start a war over or be hostile. I think he made alot of good decision like making Germany an industrial power buffing up their military and navy and making friends of Austria Hungary and soon the Ottomans and the Bulgarians which they all had a common enemy. I don't believe Wilhelm II was a terrible Kaiser but I do believe that the probabaganda from the brits, Russians and possibly France made him to be Satan himself.
Bro he was the worst politician in all of German history
@@rrrr-xj6ll he really wasn't. You say that because thats what everyone tells you about him. He was actually well beloved by his people and I think he was one of the best German kaiser in history.
@@BigBearGamer I don't care if he was loved by his people the man was incompetent. I would not call a Man who destroyed his empire the best leader of Germany Bismarck and Frederick the Great were far more impressive.
@@rrrr-xj6ll you realize his empire was thriving during his leadership. He boosted navy and military production and cared for the poor. The man didn't want to go to war but his cousins wanted war with him because they were jealous. Which forced him to make an alliance with Austria-Hungary if they ever go to war which they did.
@@BigBearGamer his empire was thriving even before he was a Kaiser yes he boasted the Navy which made England his enemy very smart decision .he and a specially his generals wanted war. In particular his generals wanted a war with Russia .Also his jealous cousins Bro Europe in the 19th century was not Europe of the middle ages . In the 19th century the power of many of the European monarchies was almost none existent France was a Republic in England parliament ruled supreme ever since the glorious revolution in Austria Hungary the Reichstag was pretty influential and even in Russia the tzar was some times influenced by Public opinion . I don't care if he gave free welfare to the poor I am not a socialist .In my opinion he was failure in foreign policy
It is good to see someone making a way more solid response video to something which seems more like a meme video anyways. Two additions i would have liked to see: 1. Sources. You take the time and use arguments and quotes, if you could give some sources in your description, that would top it of neatly. 2. I do have to debate the purpose of the fleet-expansion. For one, we always have to take official declarations with a hint of salt, so Wilhelm IIs statement about the fleet-purpose should be looked at further. Also there is the whole plan of the Risikoflotte (risk-fleet) by Admiral von Tirpitz, to sort of counterbalance Britains fleet in a time of crisis. Also you said, that the fleet was not meant to be against Britain at all, but follow it up that the trade protection makes it necessary, and to protect the trade against whose blockade? France and Britain.
Otherwise it is good to see someone speak out with more in-depth facts and history.
On the second point, it still wouldn't be much of Wilhelm's fault if France and Britain were the ones doing the blockade. (At least in my opinion)
And yeah sources are good to see.
To quote Kaiser Wilhelm II from The Exception (2016):
“Am I to blame for every misfortune on this earth? I gave my life to the Fatherland, and this is my thanks? Nobody cares my navy betrayed me! Nobody remembers my army fell apart! Ludendorff, Bethmann, Tirpitz, where were they? Where were they? Where were they? After all I'd done for them, they stabbed me in the back! They lost me the war. They lost me my country.”
Great video! Im German and i hate it how the west demonized Wilhelm and blamed everything on him. Its just not right. I support a Monarchy for my country and i think is unfair how History blamed Wilhelm and Germany for all the worst in the world. Sure things also didnt whent as they should but thats how every Nation is. I dream sometimes about to returning back to that time where the world was at peace and all nations and people great in there own way. Thank you for this video makes me glad that other people think the same way.
I am Romanian and we had a German monarch that did us good, then the Nazis and commies screwed us all over,
Your a gigachad german for liking monarchy
Incredible video, really good response. JustTheFacts' video kind of convinced me before and you have now completely changed my mind, this makes much more sense and is held up with good sources and arguments
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Technically the German empire is a semi constitutional monarchy with the German kaiser still holding some power and Austria Hungary is a constitutional dual monarchy with the Austrian kaiser being emperor of both Austria and Hungary
Nice pfp bro
@@JL220_77 thx
That pfp, are you Moselyist, or at least sympathetic?
@@crusader2112 what is a moselyist?
@@Kaiser_von_Europa Oswald Mosely sympathizer, I ask because of your pfp.
This is such a great video! I never knew half of what you talked about in this video before I watched it and always thought wilhem 2 was a bad monarch. If you're running short on ideas I think a video about who started ww1 would be very helpful, since so many people don't seem to understand who did it.
That this guy even calls the German Empire part of the West, is insanity. The Germans were BETWEEn the West and the East. They were a perfect balance, their own power that was more about fairniss, efficiency, organization, cultural strength without antagonizing everyone around them, like the West is known for, with brits, French and the USA as the most aggressive warmongers of history.
This video is great, thank you for your explanations.
Germany is a part of western civilization bro 💀. They were built on the western ideals that were laid down by the Greeks, Romans & Catholic Church. They were a major player in the western world since the German invasions of Rome. And even Russia and other Eastern European nations were considered part of the west up until the rise of communism.
@@JL220_77 The BRD right now is a assimilated germany by the West. germany ruled by germans was NEVER part of the british-french West. Learn about history, mate.
@@KubusSc7 you’re just looking at this through a contemporary lense. Germany is fundamentally part of western civilization, they have been involved in the west for thousands of years via war, conquest, trade, and spread of ideas, they follow western branches of Christianity, they use the Latin alphabet, celebrate western holidays and use western formal dress and etiquette, and their buildings are in western architecture styles for hundreds of years such as gothic, neoclassical, renaissance, baroque, Romanesque etc. Germany ESPECIALLY has an inter-connected history to France, due to both nations originating from the Frankish/Merovingian Empire but going their separate paths once the empire was split up due to Gavelkind. Also Republicanism has been destroying tradition ALL OVER THE WORLD, not just in Germany.
I think the modern term “the west” is being confused here with “Western Civilization”. Yes, Germany is a part of Western Civilization, but I wouldn’t consider them Western in the “modern liberal Anglo-American tradition”.
Liberal?
Although justthefacts can make good videos that convince you, the way he represents it is truly the worst way to do it, as someone else had mentioned before he uses wojack to represent his argument through one side as (and I hate using this word) the based and red pilled gigachad and the other as the virgin loser it's honestly really pathetic and I hope He changes his ways
Nice pfp. 😎👍
@@crusader2112 thanks comrade 🙂👌
@@sbevexlr848 Np. ✌🏻
I just drew you as the wojak and me as the gigachad your whole argument is invalid
@@ptolemythefirst4621 nooo you can't just draw myself as a wojack that's childish behavior 😭😭😭😭
Gutes Video 👍 schön das du wieder in Deutschland bist hoffe du konntest dich in deinem Urlaub erholen.
not a fan Wilhelm II but the second he called bismarck a gigachad I knew you already won
Not a fan of Wilhelm 2 still beliving 1914 propaganda do you
@@tiagomonteiro130 i just don't like the german empire in general
@@HissPhunnyCat Why most of the technology today came from it like Cars it also sa the senter of culture science, technology and the country of poets thinkers and Soldiers it also made the German healthcare System that is still in use today and the Pansions for old people
@@tiagomonteiro130 also not being a fan of someone doesn't mean i hate them
i still have some respect for wilhelm ii since he fired bismarck and was one of the few hohenzollerns during ww2 that didn't support the nazis
in fact he despised them
@@tiagomonteiro130average herero in the german empire be like: "please stop genociding us!"
Why did Edward VII hate Wilhelm so much that he'd ruin relations between Germany and Britain? Did Wilhelm ask him too many questions when Wilhelm was a child?
Compared to the Treaty of Trianon or the Treaty of Saint Germaine, The Treaty of Versailles was pretty standard for a treaty in the early 1900s, considering the destruction in the Great War. I believe that war shame was one of the factors at how the Nazis got to power.
@@frederickoftheartic2209 No it wasn't Germany was a complete shithole becouse of the treaty it was occupied by France and Belgium got Gold and other precious material stolen had to pay money that it didn't have wich made health care and aducation worse becouse the money had to be taken from it many people had no work and were homeless an unstable government was put into place Prostitution and Prostitution of children was very high the crime rate was very high then all the communist uprisings the demilitazation and blame for ww1 and that's not even all completely destroyed Germany with that treaty
The treaty of Versailles actually wasn’t severe at all if you compare it to Brest litovsk Trianon or even just Frankfurt Germany got off quite easily for a loosing power
@@luisandrade2254 It wasn't severe lmao that treaty was designt to destroy Germany you know how many people commited suicide and were unemployed and starved and had to prostetute Themselves or their Children to stay alive people in the Weimarer republic burned money to keep Themselves warm becouse it was worthless a bread costed a whole pay check what is not severe about that
I think it's because Wilhelm II was closer to his mom than he was. Remember, Wilhelm II was beside Queen Victoria before she died.
I just discovered your channel. I like it a lot. God bless you my friend!
I would add that the alliance of the Three Emperors also existed to ensure that no independent Polish State could reform, as such a state existing would threaten the borders off all three nations. The rise of Pan-Slavism in Russia meant that many say the Poles as brothers and that it was the duty of the Russians to take up the cause of liberating the rest of Poland from German occupation.
15:42 Note we the boers and boer republics did not revolt, in the first freedom war we rose up and took our nation (ZAR - Transvaal) back after the British refused to give back our land and independence as they forced the deal on us to fight the Zulu, the second freedom war was build on mining and taxes and the British leaving soldiers on the border of Transvaal, something they where asked not to do during the heightened tensions and political talks, the British somewhat listened and took away all but 1 division and then told the boers their was no military units on the border, the jamision raid also led people to believe the military unit could invade just like Jameson did and the boers asked the germans for ammo and modern guns and cannons and paid in gold, their was also plenty of talk about the good kaiser and his and his people's aid to our war effort, we even rebelled at the start of ww1 over not wanting to be under British rule and not wanting to fight the good kaiser nad and his empire.
JustTheFacts took a L
18:44 The Anglo-French Rivalry is very much one sided on the side of the British. The French have always viewed the Germans as their biggest rivals.
OK, Justthefacts was 100% wrong about the Boer War point. The Kaiser had a legit reason to do what he did, although it was a tough call, and it isn't even what ended Anglo German relations.
However, I think he has a point with the naval arms race. You are correct that it was the British who made it a race, which justifies Wilhelm morally, but not tactically. Long term, yes, Germany was going to need to expand its navy, but short term, an alliance with Britain was way more valuable than South American trade.
The point on the alliance of the three emperors is mixed. Maybe Wilhelm would have had to discard the alliance eventually, but it seems like there was no reason for him to do it right then and there. If circumstances forced his hand, then that would be that, but as far as I can tell there is no reason he couldn't have kept it going as long as possible the way Bismark did, despite the obvious problems.
Tsar Alexander did favour the british more than the germans, so it wouldn't have lasted long.
@@sansinator0889But he wasn't alive for much longer. He died in 1894, only 6 years after Wilhelm II ascended to the throne.
@@tylerbozinovski427 And that time was enough for the German and Russian Governments to start hating each other, making an alliance impossible.
Strong video. Thank you for going into details and bringing real facts.
wilhelm should have done e-rp with minors smh(just like justthecaps)
JustTheFacts when a cringe liberal (his mom) starts a chain reaction that leads to the downfall of the western civilization (delete his "cheese pizza" collection which makes him very sad)
Wait, I thought the Kaiser of Germany still had final say, despite having a Parliament?
Great video by the way, I've had a soft spot for the Kaiser Wilhelm, he wasn't perfect, but the Anglo-American Propaganda is truly strong.
It’s a damn shame, because JustTheFacts has a great video on Corporatism and some other stuff, but then he comes out with stuff that makes you go WHAT?!
Great video and keep up the great work. Take care and Peace. ✌🏻
There is always the Chance of persuasion, and Wilhelm in this case was pressured because his Ministers kept telling him it would turn the Public against him. So yes while he does indeed have the Final say, at times the Parliament can slip between the cracks and persuade or pressure him to act.
@@Lavader_ Okay, Thanks man.
P.S. Can I leave a link of this video in the comments under JustTheFacts’ latest video?
This is probably a stupid question, but I just thought I let you know, it could start an interesting discussion, or it could lead to a mess in the comments.
Its also good to mention Germany wasnt entirely constitutional monarchy, at least in a sense of what we understand nowadays.
Germany, as well as Austria Hungary, were semi constitutional monarchies, were the Monarch holds some power, but otherwise, the governing is left in hands of parliament.
This does not mean Kaiser is the top dog, nor that the parliament is in charge, as the german kaiser was pressured often into some decisions due to the public.
There was an upsurge in anti-British feeling in Germany during the Boer War in 1899-1902 and again during the Agadir Crisis in 1911. For the most part, the kaiser's anti-British policies were about catering to public opinion. Britain entered World War I when Germany invaded Belgium and France because Britain had longstanding treaty commitments with both countries. The pre-war rivalries about colonies and navies get a lot of attention, but they are not what led to war. The Anglo-German colonial rivalry was resolved by a treaty concluded in early 1914. As for the German High Seas Fleet, it never left the North Sea. Its purpose was strictly to face off with the main British fleet based at Scapa Flow. It wasn't built to promote international trade or empire.
Lol the new German navy was to protect the German trade and even if it was to face the British navy i don't see anything wrong with that why should Germany not be allowed to have a navy also Britain made an alliance with France becouse it was about to lose the arms race against Germany and only managed to win by combining the French with the British navy also anti British propaganda was in Germany oh wow good that Britain never had any anti German propaganda right that's by the way irony also you people always pull out the Germany invaded Belgium card wgen Britain is the one who whent through greece even though greece never wanted to be involved in this war
Lol Britain wanted war with Germany a long time Belgium was just an excuse to have this war as if Britain cared about Belgium
And what is with the SMS Emden or the SMS Dresden?
We litteraly know nowadays that the british elite wanted war with germany to keep the "competition down".
It is refreshing to hear from A fellow monarchist.
Indeed
Well the German empire wasn’t a democracy it was like a mix between autocracy and democracy like many monarchies at the time as the people could vote and the reichstag did decide on laws and the money policy but they couldn’t suggest laws and the entirety of the executive powers lay directly or indirectly in the kaisers hands.
Though the Bundesrat could suggest laws which was made from representatives of the executive from the various German states which were mostly similar to the empire as a whole though there were exceptions.
On the three emperor thing he once actually came close to restore it but the Russian ministers etc said no though their tsar was in favor
One could argue if he chose Russia he could also ally Italy which might have made stuff different
Never heard of constitutional monarchy
@@tiagomonteiro130 constitutional monarch means different things to different people on the most basic level it just means the powers of the monarch are restricted by a constitution
And on the most basic line parlamentary democracy is the same but the power is limited by a Parlament.
Depending on how far it is limited it can be more or less democratic like some of the modern monarchies are also called constitutional/parlamentary monarchy
Sometimes these two words are meant interchangeably and sometimes people think one is more democratic then the other it is a play with words
@@sergeantsharkseant Was Germany a Constitutional Monarchy like Britain, because I thought the Kaiser had more power than say the British one? Although, perhaps not the same as Russia’s
@@sergeantsharkseant Germany has a parlament the Reichstag since 1894 and elections were held there
Wilhelm I was a better Kaiser.. But Wilhelm II Was a top G
Wilhelm I was trash
@@HissPhunnyCat yeah just like you.. The only difference is that he handled a super power.
@@frontgamet.v1892 no he didn't
all the work was done by some old man called otto because willy couldn't do it himself
@@frontgamet.v1892 also said old man had tantrums and threatened to leave office everytime he disagreed with something but poor willy had to comply because he knew he was nothing without someone holding his hand
Wilhelm I was Bismarck's puppet.
Justthefacts is obviously trying to be bombastic and loud in order to gain attention, and to be fair, it is entertaining.
The other Guy: Grabs "facts" of the Winners side
This dude: Grabs real facts from the loses side
I love you for supporting my lovely Kaiser as a German. I still wished for a return of the German Empire
And a Kaiser
I really hate when people criticise the Kaiser for things that aren't real
Gott schütze den Kaiser.
Most based German ever
I always found impressive how Guillaume II looks like Louis XIV but unlike him he didn't success to establish a German Hegemony in Europe and make the XXth century a german century
Short answer, no. Kaiser Wilhelm was not a bad leader nor a bad person, he thrived for peace and stability throughout europe, as well as nothing but the best for his people
Saying the German empire was democratic is a stretch, because the Reichstag (the parlament) had little to no power and the one significant one (the granting of the war budget) could be pressured into allowing through declaring a war and then asking for the budget, most of the power lied in the Reichsrat (the upper chamber) an un-elected house of representetives which was dominated by the Prussians and because the chancellor was also the prime minister of Prussia he had all the say in decision making, and because the chancellor was only appointed by the Kaiser and could be removed at any time, with no reason, so the chancellor did everything the Kaiser said or else he would be fired.
So in the end all the decision making was done by the Kaiser, or the chancellor if the Kaiser didn't want to rule (like with Bismarck). It was designed this way by Bismarck to make it look like a liberal democracy similar to Britain, while actually being closer to Russia, you could compare it to the cheap and weak constitution the Tsar made after the huge protest in 1905.
Just as you promised, if I pushed you to accelerate your schedule, sorry. I meant it as a joke.
Don't worry you didn't, I guess I finished it sooner than I expected.
Brooo, you’re right, that’s not John, that’s blessed Kaiser Karl von Habsburg
20:28 "This fine specimen of a man..."
Never heard such a smooth, yet mellow-sounding diss like that one ever in my life. 10/10
Interesting video! Do you have any plans to cover any of the Russian Tsars?
Für mich bleibt unser geliebter Kaiser Wilhelm im Gedenken was er für meine Grosseltern
war - ein guter Herrscher und ein guter Mensch .
💔🥀RIP
Ausserdem.1000 mal besser als alles was danach kam einschließlich heute !
🖤🤍❤ 🖤🤍❤ 🖤🤍❤
I wonder If German empire survive would it be similar to today's Germany but with much greater strength
It would be much more beautiful with the architecture and cultural that's for shure
if german empire wouldve survived
that leads to 2 major questions
1. are they victorious in ww1?
2. does it even happen/involve germany?
if former is answered with yes, consider germany becomming like the french are today. Chauvinistc nation, that only accepts themselves and would see themselves as Ubermensch. Maybe not genocidal, but trust me, you would hate them every second. Heck, if you want better comparison, look at how people who hate america stereotype america.
for latter, i think somewhat tame france, altough expect some crazy and wacky ideas coming through their heads.
there are thousands of different factors, so its hard to tell.
This aged well lmao
It’s still mind-boggling to me that JTF turned out to be a predator.
a closeted n@zi turned out to be a predator? no way
Did Justthefacts’ account get deleted?
@@MoloIongo
Not exactly accurate.
He got spicy WWII and other roleplay private messages leaked and got face doxxed and name doxxed.
The female's age that was involved has not been confirmed, only the content of these sessions. Remember that people often pretend to be ages that they are not.
The claim is that she was of an age that is unlawful in most U.S states but none of the claims say she was young enough to accurately categorize him as you have.
(Watering down these terms is deeply dangerous and hurts real victims)
Further, there is no confirmation since there has been no trial since the leakers didn't just go to the cops.
One may use the content of the roleplay sessions as evidence of him being in this category but this is fictional which of course doesn't count.
I'll be honest and say I'm deeply skeptical of the claims of the leakers despite the content of the leaks since they didn't just go to the cops like any normal person would do if they believed he was doing something unlawful.
There has also been no media coverage or law enforcement involvement at all.
Meaning either they still didn't report this or they did and no law was actually violated like if she had lied of her age or if roleplay isn't legally actionable.
Perfidious Albion, yet again
How can someone call Wilhelm II the worst Kaiser when Hitler exists?
AH wasn’t a Kaiser dumbsss
He wasn't any different than the other heads of state in Europe at the time he's "bad" because he lost
He was better then any leader of that time
I know it's a huge debate and a difficult topic, but what happened to the Herero will forever make me see the Kaiser in a negative way
b-but everyone in europe was bad back then so everything germany did was actually rainbows and unicorns!!!
That's fair, the Hun speech is another thing to feel negatively about. Wilhelm is a complex character like the rest of us.
honestly, im not sure if he did it first, considering Namibia was made as a Lebensraum colony to begin with. Not saying he is innocent, but Im not sure if he should take the blame for the colony to be made for such heinous purposes.
@@Ami-jc2oo considering the man actualy tried making an alliance with China somewhen in 1910s, before the outbreak of the war, I dont think he made it out of racist ideals, altough its hard to tell, considering his entire diplomatic policy was that of "now i want this, now i want that" and he would often switch sides
@@HissPhunnyCatill say this, im kind of tired of people bringing up Herero.
Like, TOGO IS RIGHT THERE
edit: that means find original material to mention.
As a historian, I have my own reasons for disliking Wilhelm II. While I do think JTF was onto something with this, I don't agree with the clearly ideological nature of his position. Wilhelm was definitely a flawed individual from a young age who let his own flaws bleed into his governance of Germany. Contrasted with figures that governed Germany and Europe at-large in the previous generation, Wilhelm's powers of pragmatism were weak at best. He - undeniably - acted in a manner that ultimately forced together Russia, the UK and France - three countries that initially had little reason to ally with each other. And in the end, this blunder among others costed Germany dearly.
With that said - I don't believe that Wilhelm was THE problem. Especially when it comes to the start of WWI. It's clear he was influenced by men around him - both in regards to the war, and into giving up most of his power (IE Ludendorff and Hindenburg). In the end, Wilhelm received a worse reputation than he's due because of actions during this war that were largely out of Wilhelm's control.
The victor writes the propaganda.
very nice video
Hey, how’s your cat?
splendid
@@lolno4765 Very good.
@Ran z It’s N-r*dacted.
During the surbu Bulgarian war Russia and Bulgaria were not on good terms
Quite ironic how he keeps going about "them libturds" while parroting Entente historical revisionism.
My kaiser😭😭. God bless the Kaiser wilhelm II. Glory to the Kaiser.
Thank you for presenting facts most do not learn.
What is your opinion on Semi-constitutional Monarchy
Queen Victoria was Kaiser Wilhelm's grandma
Yea and Wilhelm loved her very much
Kaiser wilhelm had some bad choices but he still is my favorite leader
I've been saying for the past 35 years that WWI was started and precipitated by England, and not Germany!
England lusted after Germany's few and far between colonies for themselves; they were afraid of Germany's burgeoning industrial might and were paranoid enough to believe that one day it would be aimed against them, despite the fact that Germany had no such ambitions, much less any interest in doing so.
When I make this statement, I wish to emphasize that I'm not referring to the English people as such, but the greedy and despicable ambitions of the Royal Families of England and France at large during that period in history, all living their lives as though the whole world belonged to them by right and to no other, not to mention that they always believed that the US could be relied upon to in a word, bail them out, pay their bills, finance their selfish and unjust wars, and with our taxpayers' money, to say nothing of our blood!
And the worst part of that is that we have always obliged them, and to whatever extent that they arrogantly and presumptuously demanded!
Long live the Kaiser.
15:00 I don't quite understand what you mean by this, because Germany building a fleet solely to match Britain's naval power would undoubtedly make it look like Germany was preparing to fight Britain. If Germany expanded their navy for another reason other than to match Britain's naval power, then at least it wouldn't look like they were targeted at the British.
Agreed
the thing is, german command didnt at first even consider british as a threat, and by that, i mean "why should we fear them, we will not be seen fighting one another"
Plus, consider that the idea was to either start a buildup of cruisers, or battleships, each having different bonuses and set backs.
While i agree it did become a small naval arms build up, the original intention was not to be british rival, heck, untill the third build up, they didnt even care and didnt even bother looking at the british, because to them, it was just a self serving mission.
Man, every time I watch this I just get a little sad. JTF was a cool TH-camr. And I don’t think any of his videos got archived. So this is kinda like, a last “Real Video”. I can see from him.
There is still a sort of debate stream on bitchute.
@@darken2417 link?
@@logpo5402 TH-cam deletes posts like that.
The video is called "What is the best government?" by Break the Rules. It was a panel discussion with four people.
@@darken2417 Thanks.
Those are all interesting points but you forget that Germany=Bad
the fuck?
What is your opinion on Austrian economics?
Its is true that the German Empire had the most modern and widespread elections but these elections were not counting even close to what the elections in other countries for example GB did. So you could have been talking about a constitutional monarchy without “Gewaltenteilung” and authoritarian elements
Well because it was build by the arch conservative Bismarck of course. Bismarck wasn't know for liberal constitution or anything that is democracy. Worst model it self like Britian. He rather shoot himself.
Also no surprise his system was adapted by Japanese which year later lead to their military authorian before WW2.
100% on the german empire side britain and france were jealous
The guy wrote a 2 hour speech on why Germany needs a bigger navy to protect it's trade and Britain thought it was about them
Im honestly on the side of Central powers because of family. I otherwise like both sides.
Good video. Also that guy thinks that capitalism is when attacking China and stealing their resources, lol. He should probably not speak about free trade and economics, when he has no idea.
He also said that Russia would never invade Ukraine
@@tiagomonteiro130 lol
Would like more your debunking video
Kaiser Wilhelm II of Prussia is my 19th cousin
He was the product of two factions of government; liberal and conservative.
His parents were liberals, but the government headed by Otto Von Bismark was mostly conservative.
There was also growing antipathy and jealousy to England.
This resulted in a confused childhood exacerbated by his ungrowing arm and looking weak because of a disability.
His decisions were based on a need to placate the wishes and demands of the rising German state.
At the same time, he had an underlying desire to simply be a British gentleman.
This all resulted in a very confused individual.
You could spend all day and into tomorrow "Phil"osophizing Kaiser Bill and ultimately; who gives a dam about him?
All I care about are the millions he could've saved and didn't because of his poor little problems.
This goes for all the European "elite": Haig, Petain, Foche, the Romanovs.
The most important thing obtained from WWI was the end of these people, their ideas of government, their deaths
and our lives . . or what was left.
Source trust me bro Wilhelm was Jealous of Britain what is this Angelo superiority complex.
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how Germany's cooperation with the Ottoman Empire under Kaiser Wilhelm II. could be justified in the context of the Armenians and Greeks, specifically the Pontic Greeks, considering the systematic oppression and even genocide that took place.
Armenian genocide started around 1915. Aka during WW1. At that point Ottomans and Germans were already allies. As for Greeks the actions of the Greece was the main reason that radicalized the Ottoman empire in the first place. Greece's(and also rest of the Balkan League's) genocidal policies during the Balkan Wars resulted in over 2 million Muslim refugees to escape to the Ottomans due to ethnic cleansings. Prior to the 1912 Balkan Wars, Ottomans were ruled by the liberal Kamil Pasha government who supported a more decentralized empire with local autonomy and minority language rights. First Balkan War ended all of that and resulted in the collapse of the Kamil Pasha government it was only after that Enver Pasha launched his military coup and took over empire, creating the WW1 era Ottoman government we all know.
@@simulacrumpilot2777 Tell me more about the Balkan League's "genocidal policies", if you like. Admittedly, I am not read up too much on their policies, but it is important to know that the Pontic Greeks were not citizens of the newly established Greek state (after 400 years of slavery, and I will not just grand you anything else on this).
Now, if you are, for example, referring to the Siege of Tripolitsa, there are important background informations on this. For example, preceding the siege, which took place at the height of the Greek War of Independence, there were massacres happening at Smyrna, Constantinople and Cyprus, where tens of thousands of Christians were slaughtered, including many clergy and with people not even participating in the revolts. The Patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, Gregory V., even condemned the revolution and preached obedience, yet he was publicly hanged, on Easter Sunday, the most important day for the Christians. At Smyrna a Mullah was even executed for refusing to bless the murder of the Christians. Also, 20 days preceding the siege, there is the destruction and massacre of Samothrace. Now, imagine what is going on behind the walls of Tripolitsa, at the ongoing battles, hearing of all those atrocities during the height of the War of Independence after 400 years of slavery, while awaiting furiously for the walls of Tripolitsa to fall. Keep also in mind that it was not an officially trained military fighting for the Greeks. This is not meant to justify the massacre that ensued after the fights, just a bit of context. Kolokotronis, an important leader figure, tried to prevent the killings, asking in advance for Tripolitsa to be surrendered and them leave, and even trying to stop the killings from happening after the siege. However, it was even difficult for him to keep himself together and not be swayed emotionally after what the Turks were continuously doing. One of the first things he did entering the city was ordering a tree at the marketplace to be cut down, on which Greeks were always hanged.
And how would these justify the Genocide of the Pontic Greeks? Especially after there had already been a massive retaliation of the Ottomans with the massacre of Chios, where abound three times as many Greeks were slaughtered?
By the way, I will be very sceptical on points mentioned because of the ongoing Turkish Propaganda (where the state still views people like Topal Osman, who perpatrated the two mentioned genocides, as war heroes, while denying the genocide even happened). Just wanted to mention that.
@@panperl1212 Tripolitsa was almost a hundred years before Balkan Wars and mostly irrelevant to the current discussion so I don't understand why you write that entire rant there. Anyway, for the Balkan Wars themselves I'll mostly copy paste mostly, here
"The heavy and rapid defeat of the Ottoman army prevented the safe evacuation of the Muslim civilians, making them a clear target for the Balkan League forces invading the region. As a result, it is estimated that, in total, up to 632,000-1.5 million Ottoman Muslims perished outside of Albania and c. 400,000-813,000 became refugees by the end of the Second Balkan War."
These policies weren't limited to just Ottoman Muslims btw since Albanians also(mostly at the hands of Serbians) also faced a similar fate.
"There were various instances where Albanian communities were targeted especially by Serbian and Montenegrin forces. According to contemporary accounts, c. 20,000-25,000 Albanians in the Kosovo Vilayet were killed in the first two to four months of the conflict. The number of Albanian deaths exceeded 120,000 by the end of the Second Balkan War. Hundreds of thousands of Albanians were deported throughout the Balkan Wars."
end quote.
Also another tidbit. Did you know that Balkan Muslims were hugely overrepresanted in the WW1 era CUP government? Nearly 90% of the party consisted of Turks and other Muslims from Balkans while Anatolians despite having a larger population in the party overall was only 10% of the CUP. This extends to the infamous 3 pashas themselves. Djemal was originally from the Greek island of Mytilene, Enver was himself a half Albanian and the most powerful of the 3 Talaat was from Kardzhali Bulgaria.
@@panperl1212 Anyway, for Pontics firstly I don't understand why are you even bringing up Chios in relation to them considering that's an island in Aegean thousand of kilometers away from Pontus and wasn't even inhabited by the Pontic Greeks.
Secondly, although it definitely doesn't justify the Ottoman actions at the time most Pontic Greeks, their academia and media supported the Megali Idea and the continuation of what was started during the Balkan Wars. People like Nikos Kapetinidis(one of the most influential Pontic Greeks at the time) argued for these in his newspaper Epochi which at the time was one of if not the biggest Pontic Greek newspaper.
These like I said before might not justify the Ottoman actions but it does put some things into perspective especially considering how paranoid they've become after their catastrophic failure in the Balkan Wars.
@@simulacrumpilot2777 Well, I understand the Ottomans getting paranoid at any Greek citizen supporting the Megali Idea, but rightly so, considering the history of the Ottomans. Was it unethical for Pontic Greeks to support this idea? This is exactly why I was mentioning the Greek War of Independence. It was obvious that the Pontic Greeks would also hope for their land to become independent in the future, especially to the Ottomans, who came not as colonisers, but as conquerors, enslaving the Christians for centuries on their own land.
As I said, I understand there being this heat of the moment, the Muslim losses at the Balkan Wars and the fear of losing even more, but all this loss did not come to some innocent bystander. We should also consider the extent of the planning behind the genocide. It wasn't just one moment that made it into a genocide. It wasn't just a mistake. It was calculated, Turks profited off of it and, as mentioned before, main perpetrators were (and are still) celebrated.
Only error here was calling Great Britain “England” but otherwise great video’
Just the caps
Did kaiser Wilhelm the second hated and blamed the Jewish banks for the fall the German empire ?
super offtopic but what the hell happened to Wilhelm's hair
Constitutional monarcy and electing does not make up a democracy. These countrys werent democratic
So Sweden Norway the Belgium the Netherlands united kingdom are all not democratic eventough they are considered the most democratic countries in the world
@@palastofhistory4026 if you are refearing to the democracy index yes. Whats the conclusion between my statement and your statement? That the democracy index is trash and funded to show a relation between capitalism and democracy in order to hide the awfull lot of massmurder and facism behind the free marked mask.
@@pietpanzerpanzer5335 Democracy in it's purest form isnot a good system.
@@user-rh3pe7um8d why. (Just a hint: there isnt much to say that wont expose you as a facist.)
"based and redpilled" german monarchist try not to groom minors challenge (impossible)
Inwhat universe did any of the Wolhelm's groom Children the guy was Christian
@@tiagomonteiro130 i was talking about justthefacts he was literally exposed for grooming kids
@@HissPhunnyCat Oh now i get it i thought it was about the rumor that all Monarchies were inbreed, pedophile scum bags
@@HissPhunnyCat jesus fuck
Isn't it funny how the "good guys" alway won these wars
Best humanity maker, by idea and Saings!
Lavader, that you don't understand history is understandable, but when you actively try to mask the truth about the German Empire being some sort of "democracy," your ignorance is frightening.
I'd say yes, out of the three german kaisers he was the worst, reasons are, number one he lead his country to destruction, two he was a idiot in external affairs aka the naval arms race, the interview with the british Times, the time when he didn't stop austria hungary from declaring war despite him saying that "all justifications for war against Serbia has been dealt with" after Serbia accepted 9 out of the 10 decrees of the ultimation to Serbia and when he failed to stop the Hindenburg and Ludendorff dictatorship.
Though he did make very good decisions in his internal policies.
So I can't really say that he was better than a kaiser who united germany with the help of the greatest diplomat ever in otto von bismarck or a kaiser who only ruled for 100 days and did nothing.
Another thing the german empire and austria hungary were not a constitutional monarchy, it was more of a mix of pure autocracy like the Russian empire and the constitutional monarchy of Britain which was effectively a democracy but with a figure head leader, so since kaiser wilhelm the 2nd had many a political and military power the german empire wasn't a constitutional monarchy.
Also while what you said about the naval arms race was mostly correct a certain admiral Alfred von tirpitz did twist it to his own benefit by actively wanting to make a fleet strong enough to get concessions out of Britain or to atleast be around the same level as britain in terms of naval power and since in ww1 Germany was the only country on earth with the capability of challenging the royal navy I'd say that tirpitz succeeded. And kaiser wilhelm the 2nd had the power to fire tirpitz he could have stopped him. Also britain had the well known 2 power standard which made clear that they would have a fleet which is larger than the 2nd and 3rd largest fleets in the world and when germany became 2nd place that caused a increase in the size of the Royal navy. Though Britain did escalate it with the launch of hms dreadnought.
The only reason why germany Was unified is necause Bismarck forced him to.
1, youre mixing up the Kaisers.
2. Naval arms race was only considered for a long time an arms race by the british, and solely the british, the germans downright went "what about the british, who cares, we arent their enemy, and neither are they ours", and it only escalated into such, cause the british tried to make sure they are the top dogs at all times.
3. Tirpitz stuff is accurate, only in that he presented his ideas to the kaiser, and was more convincing than others, and Kaiser, trying to do as he thought would be best, chose an option that made sense to him, based on the facts presented.
4. Semi constitutional monarchy. Not saying youre wrong about saying it wasnt constitutional, but saying it was absolutist monarchy isnt entirely true, considering most events were even pressured onto the kaiser.
5. He wasnt an idiot, but a zigg zagger. Idiot would force everyone against him, he just switched external policies too quickly.
6. He was not even in Germany when the affair with serbia was happening, he was on a vacation, and was just notified the government went all in and said "yes" to austrians wanting war. And keep in mind, Austria pushed into the balkans for power. All it did, was assure them the germans will come to help them in case things go south, which didnt have to, had Russia not mobilised in defense of Serbia, which was a guarantee made, to assure Russia can influence balkans into its own sphere of influence.
7. Otto von Bismarck was a man that barely managed to keep the alliance of 3 emperors together, or rather, didnt, and should i mention his internal policies, that were basicaly making germans fight one another? You know, the Kulturkampf? the one about ending catholcis and south germans, turning them more northern and protestant? Also ideas like evicting "socialists" from even having the basic civil right to live? Something that made even the parliament go "What the hell, Bismarck?"
8. At that point in the war, he had no choice. Hindenburg and Ludendorff were generals who controlled the frontlines, with Hindenburg being the face of German Army, and Ludendorff the brains behind Hindenburg. And by that point, war already went too far, for anyone to even try.
If you want my take on what he did wrong, and should be noted of, was the Elsass Lothringen affair, zigg zagging policy, shouldve stayed in one side, that interview in British times, african colonies like Togo and Namibia.
8:58 I would have chosen the Russian over the Austrian anytime.
Yeah but the Russians didn't want him.
@@frederickoftheartic2209 I wish they could compromise. Don't both of them hate Britain?
The thing is, Russia was underdeveloped empire with many social problems and rather weak military. Sure, they were impressive, but considering how much of a beating they took in Russo-Japanese war...
Consider this.
Austria had industry spread around its country, and Russias industry was centered around Petrograd and Moscow for the longest time. Austria and Russia were countries with social problems, though major thing is, austrians were still considered south germans.
And alligning against Austria could mean south germany would start hating the monarchy and would seek to join austria, or downright rebel.
@@lollikabosso.w.n7153 Honestly the only solution would be if Germany and Britain enter into an diplomatic alliance
@@blugaledoh2669 honestly, yeah.
And Im saying that as someone who does not like the british and probably masturbates furiously over the idea of Mittelafrika
totally agree
if Wilhelm II wasn't the worst Kaiser who was the worst Kaiser?
id say his father, out of virtue of not being that active. Sure, he had cancer, but his short inactive reign did allow some things to come into fruition, and some men ruled for even less days.
Thats not to say Friedrich III is the worst man ever, but were talking worst kaiser
Alternatively, id say Wilhelm I, for being easily bullied by Bismarck for the longest time, but thats debatable, and im not sure about Bismarck before 1880
@@lollikabosso.w.n7153 really? Fredrich 3 was the worst you could come up with?
@@tavernburner3066 from german kaisers we only got 3 to choose, and Holy roman emperors are their own breed
Id say Wilhelm I, but i think inactivness of Friedrich is worse
the frick bro
He was a madman
Source : I want him tobe that
Kaiser Wilhelm was Christian and improved the lives of German workers he was lov3d by the Russian Tzar and invited many times he made a 2 hour speech on why Germany needs a bigger navy to protect it's growing trade as one of the biggest exporters in the world to this day
He was dealt a bad hand not different than Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette
Yes.
Thinking in German Empire had 3 kaisers, with the first kaiser uniting several kingdoms, principalities and dukedoms after a glorious victory in a war with a major european country, the second kaiser only reigning for 90 days, though with progressive polices and ideas and a hero of the wars of unification, and there is the third kaiser envolved with various scandals, even though he was sometimes not directly envolved, always trying to show german strength by whatever means although ofending other nations, with almost of Europe hating Germany because of that and leading the German Empire for their end in defeat, I think he isn't the best.
But in other ways if you see Wilhelm I made almost any effort to build the German Empire while Bismarck did it. And Wilhelm II acted in that way probably because the mistreat of his mother, who was a good princess but a horrible mother to him.
Friedrich Wilhelm III my beloved 😭
@@fatchins9126 mine too, mine too...
so the only good out come out of the collapse of the league of the 3 E's should have been choosing Russia. both can even partition Austria to get the last Germans into the empire and Russia could get Galicia and full influence with the Balkans. Hungary could be carved out to be a stated aligned with Germany or both
Choosing Russia over Austria would be a very risky move since there was the risk of Catholic South German states getting sympathetic towards Austria instead. In the most extreme options it could've even lead to a German Civil War.
@@simulacrumpilot2777
Get real, this isn't the 30 years war. As even then catholics and protestants fought on one side. Like Italy a catholic country fought and annexed Papel land. By the 19th century religion by far was separated from the state in Europe.
@@nicbahtin4774 Do you know ANYTHING about Bismarck's Kulturkampf and the alienation of the Southern German states due to that? German unity at the start of 20th century was still far from guaranteed.
@@simulacrumpilot2777
You talk about fragmentation of unity but compared to what ? In England couldn't get elected to parliament until 1829 and I'm not gonna even start about the Irish treatment. In Prussia you had attempted to unite Lutherans and Calvinists into a single church even before forming Germany. So every country had different way of pushing for unity and there were always some losers that probably made their way to the US cause of this. Nothing special
I would never call you right wing monarchist, more like centrist monarchist
Why you hating bruh