Reality Check vs Absolute: Asym Hybrid vs Asym Hybrid - What's the Difference??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- This is a comparison of the 900 Global Reality Check to the Storm Absolute bowling balls! They're both asyms, and both hybrid, so what's the difference? We'll talk about that and a couple different asymmetric shapes as well in this video!
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Wow Luke, that explanation/demonstration just blew my mind. I've similar concerns with the back end reactions of asyms, and this video was simply the best I've ever seen on the subject. Can't thank you enough for the work you've put into this one. Sealed the deal for me on the Absolute as well, looks to be exactly the package I've been searching for. /salute!
Luke, you're a bowling encyclopedia. I'll need to watch this a few times so I can correctly apply it to my game. Thanks again.
exactly! This will be one I watch every day for a week just to digest all the info.
Man, you should be a ball rep on tour. Some of those guys out there don't know a fraction of what you know.
It's absolutely magical watching the RC rev up like a deuce. Go, baby, go!
I absolutely love the RC... Yep. Dad joke Sunday, let's go!
I love your reviews and classroom video's. I can honestly say that I have learned a LOT! I am a left-hander, women with slower speed so I have realized that I have to be particular about what balls I have in my arsenal, by looking at your videos I have learned a lot pertaining to ball motion, building an arsenal, how the ball should exist off the pin deck etc. I started bowling in my early 20's and I learned to bowl on wood lanes where you have to "turn" the ball and hit up on it. The game is totally different now and your video's have really educated me. I am trying to become a better bowler and be more consistent.
Good morning Luke! Great info As usual. Thanks again have a great day.
So cool to hear you talking about matching ball to player- what that players eye wants to see and then matching that to the lane condition
🤯. I need this in my life for sure
Wow, I actually noticed the small nuances between the two ball reactions and gotta say thanks! Over time your vid’s have taught me how to read ball reaction that I couldn’t notice when I first started following you. May the strikes be with you
Great description. You're best best! Always have to watch your videos before any purchase of bowling balls.
I’m not consistent enough to have all the balls I’d want, since I’m just bowling in a league. I also am JUST starting to see phases of my ball motion because my eye is not as trained as many other people. A more experienced teammate is helping me with that. I’m still able to make adjustments because I’m seeing the larger picture of movement without seeing all the minutiae. I love that you explain that minutiae because it will assist me in watching for the smaller details of my ball on the lane. I’ve got 4 balls right now (including a dedicated spare ball), but I only carry 3 to league (Incite, Rubicon UC3 are in the bag right now - the MVP Attitude is on the sideline for now). I’m actually looking at adding the Revenant for late use or if I want to close my angles a little bit. I feel like I’m shooting in the dark, though, because of my lack of knowledge. I just see certain balls (usually after many views of your reviews) as fitting me and the conditions I bowl on. I’m a mess, Luke. 😂
This is something I’ve experienced for myself and it may be different to others but playing up the boards is something you need to learn how to do and it isn’t just about which ball you have. I have around 375-425 revs (mid to high rev rate or how much you spin the ball) and I have an easier time up the boards with a burner than with a phaze 3 but also if I let the burner read and get a handful of it it can hook too.
I bowled on chromium this weekend here at a tournament in orlando! I used my reality check games 3 and 4, and it gave me a very good look at pocket compared to others on my pair. I had a lot of miss room for a challenge pattern. I found my dark moss wolverine to be a very good transition down once the check started reading too early and/or losing that motion. Great video!
Also for what its worth im not sure if Nemeth is with Coolwick anymore unfortunately 😕
Nobody and I mean nobody explains ball motion like Uncle Luke. He explains exactly what he’s looking for in a ball
Hi. I was here. I love the Reality Check. I love it so much, I bought a copy for future use. I’ve done that with the Fate, the IQ Tour, Hy-Road pearl, Phaze 2 and Phaze 3. I buy copies of things that work well for me. There might be a Revenant sitting in the basement with all of that, too.
This is the comparison I've been looking for.
love you vidoes they help me when selecting my bowling balls
So much good information in this video. The Reality line never matched up with me because they lock up and roll forward like you described. I think I would like the Eternity though because the core allows it to be more round and continuous.
I had lockup problems with some of the new stuff. It's why I'm still throwing the No Rules.
I have the Infinite and love to use that before my Absolute. I feel like they are a great 1-2 punch! At least for league. Infinite gives me the early bite, followed with the Absolute that’s clean but just as strong. Thanks for all the info you give Luke. Really helps out the game. Would really enjoy a video on not knowing what pattern you are bowling on and figuring out what ball to start with.
That sounds like a great idea, maybe I can give that a shot!
I just bought a Reality Check and want to use it in league. The info in this video will be very helpful, thanks
This is really an informative video. Nicely done! I have both but my Check is at 3k which is one very small step down from my Supernova for overall hook on the slick. I actually like the factory polish on the Absolute. It’s been a great 3rd game go-to when I need to throw the slow hockey stick. I think an interesting comparison might be the Absolute vs Dark Code vs Eternity all with the same layout and surface.
I could possibly make that happen . .
I really think a video with the Phaze V and Absolute would be awesome. I really enjoy using them as a duo.
I did get footage for the P5 on Chromium the other day, problem is that I have so much stuff to make that new stuff keeps coming out before I can get everything done that I want!
@@LukeRosdahl there used to only be 2 balls a year. Times have changed significantly
Great video, Luke! As a two hander, I have issues with most Asyms for some reason. My IP is my weakest ball as it seems to roll out no matter what I do. I've tried a couple of layouts on it and played with the cover multiple ways. It makes a great straight ball for me which is sad in a way. The Night Road with the same cover and out of box finish will hook the entire lane.
Well asyms are generally used by people with higher speed or lower rev rates to kind of make up for the revs or power they don't have. As a two hander, you already have plenty of power to work with. Like I mentioned in this video, it's probably just locking up because it's doing too much too soon.
The way you use your balance arm is pretty cool. I may have to try that out ‼️
Eh, I don't know lol. I kind of hang it out there because I have no idea what to do with it, or it has no idea what to do, one of the two lol.
@@LukeRosdahl 🤣😂🤣 that's hilarious... Imma give it a shot as it looks like you consistently hit your mark
Great informative video Luke!
Thanks
Great video. What’s your thought on a comparison Astro Physix vs Absolute? Loved my Astro but it died. Thanks Luke for really raising the bar on ball reviews.
Astro is a little stronger, and a little rounder, but overall they're pretty close
I can't quit looking at that dead wood lol 😆
Love your reviews. Watch all of them and use your links. Will you be reviewing the Ebonite Envision Pearl?
Thanks!! Nah, I'm a Storm staffer, so I can only throw Storm, Roto Grip, and 900 Global. It looks like a great ball though.
Excellent review. Thx luke
I don't crank my elbow, smooth like u
Easy roll
Is Luke embracing the synthwave craze? Nostalgic for something that never happened...
Lol wha? The outro music? Just some generic quiet stuff
Sure it's discontinued, but you loved the OG parallax and it's in the same boat. Smoother and milder down lane than these two?
Yes definitely, much smoother. I've actually stashed a few more Parallaxes . .
Hey Great Video !! Im A Left - Handed Bowler as Well ... Can You do a Video on How you as a Left-handed Bowler Line your Shots Up , Where You Stand From a Left- handed Prospective ???
I kind of did already! It's an older video, but check it out here: th-cam.com/video/0Z7UsKOca2g/w-d-xo.html
Thanks !! I just purchased the White Ghost Pearl and I purchased The Overseas Hammer Purple "Savage "
Was going to buy the absolute, the 900 G gifted me a check. 🤷🏻♂️
did you start using the targeting dots too? i find knowing my entry angle through the fronts more important for accuracy down lane than hitting any arrow. it has vastly improved my consistency getting to the pocket
Nah, I'm more of a feel player, but that actually helps me focus more on my angles, because I'm not targeting any specific mark, I'm targeting an angle and a ball path.
@@LukeRosdahl always nice hearing someone else doing the same thing I do. As a pitcher into college, I never focused on the glove as a target. It was my mind understanding the path and angle to where I wanted the ball, same exact thing with bowling.
This video makes me wonder how the Nova and Absolute would compare...
I probably sound like a broken record, but I'd like to fill the slot in my bag that was previously occupied by my Zen Soul, with either a Nova, Duo, or Absolute. I have a Reality Check (ball up) and a Revenant (ball down).
Nova and Absolute are very different, I featured that comparison in my Absolute review I'm pretty sure. The Nova or Duo would be better replacements for the Soul, the Absolute is much longer and sharper.
@Luke Rosdahl not sure how I missed that, but I'm not surprised I did 😅 I might stick with the nova, as I already own one, and just build from there. Thanks!
I have been really enjoying your videos on the Absolute. I have been debating if I want to get one or an Infinite Physix. I am just a league bowler on a house shot on AMF synthetic lanes that are probably about 25 years old. My speed is only around 15 mph off the hand with 330 revs 10 axis tilt 40 rotation. I'd like to stick with a 1-2 punch and a spare ball. I currently roll a symmetrical ball from another brand that has a weak core and strong cover. It does well enough but people around the league have told me I would be better with an asym to take advantage of the free hook on a THS. The PSO told me he feels the Absolute would be amazing, he said the Infinite would def be a good choice be he felt the Absolute would be better and compliment the Symmetrical more.
Do you feel that the Absolute would be a good choice based on my stats to be a first ball choice on a THS or would the Infinite be the better choice or maybe neither and I should be looking in another direction? Love the reviews and all the information you provide!
Yeah based on what you say I think the Absolute would be the better choice. The Infinite has been discontinued already and is in demand, so unless your shop happens to have one, it'd be somewhat tough and not cheap to find at this point anyway.
@@LukeRosdahl I appreciate the reply! The PS has both and I can get them either at the same price. I do feel with my slower speed the Absolute would push further and that might be more helpful for me. I feel with my slower speed, lower revs that some of the stronger solid coverstocks just may not fit my game much, that they probably will be too early in most cases. I felt a hybrid cover would be most versatile but in the SPI right now hybrid option seem lacking.
I have both balls and i see the absolute coming off the pattern harder than the check....I like the absolute at 300 and check polished
Luke, the reality check. Is it a replacement for the Altered Reality?
I love that ball. I'm still using mine after 12 months. Shot 815 two weeks ago and have had 8 of my last 10 series over 700, including the 800. Not too bad for an old fart of 73. I know my Altered won't last forever, so I am always looking.
Nah, the new Eternity that's coming is much closer to the Altered
@@LukeRosdahlI have the AR earlier and much more forward. I think the Eternity is more user friendly and has a wider window of usage.
@@stormb28 Yeah definitely, Eternity is just closer than the Check is. The Check doesn't act like either of the other Reality balls tbh . .
Thanks!
Appreciate it tons!!
Interesting lesson about burning up vs rolling out
Im a speed dominant low rev stroker who
Plays up 10-12 and typically have to belly it to the dry on fresh conditions
Would you be more concerned with burning up or rolling out in this case?
Probably rolling out, with your game you're not going to be dealing with burning up near as much as the ball hitting the backend and just giving up
Which one do you think is gonna be more versatile
I think the Absolute is, just because it goes left to right easier, and because it's a more average strength. The strength and sharpness of the Check keeps it out of some situations, and depending on your game, it might be limited to a couple specific zones. As odd as it may sound though, if I had the choice between taking one or the other, not knowing what I was bowling on, I'd take the Check. I think the more naturally versatile ball is the Absolute, but the more versatile the bowler is, the more versatile the Check will be.
Can you do a video about understanding and utilizing undergrit?
I've done one at some point, but could probably hit it again
@@LukeRosdahl awesome, I'll take a gander around to find it. My data has been iffy, so I honestly didn't even look before asking lol
Hey Luke, what weight do you throw? And also do you think 14 lbs carry less than 15 lb balls? I know carry is using the right ball at the right time, softness at the release etc, but all things equal in theory would 15lbs carry better than 14?
I throw 15s. Actually 14s carry better according to science since you can throw them harder and rev them up more, but it also has to do with a personal comfort thing. I tend to overthrow 14s, they seem a little too light
@@LukeRosdahl ok appreciate the response man! Love your videos you’re teaching everyone so much about this great game
Is it okay to start league play with the Absolute then go to the Storm Sky Rocket?
Depends on how much oil they put down, but if it works, sure, that would make sense on paper at least.
Would a long PSA to PAP help assymetric cores retain axis rotation and be more continuous? Seems Mo Pinel 2 handed layouts always have this in the 5 to 6 and a half inch PSA to PAP range. Any idea why that may be?
Makes the ball fairly stable and somewhat forward, it helps to balance the amount of revs they have.
I bowl a once a month "fun" league with the lady and a couple friends. Lanes are pretty crumby because there is open bowling all day. Started out with phaze2 in practice for a few shots and then the 1st couple frames but the ball didn't look real good going thru the pins. So I switched to my dark code. Ball was great for the rest of that game and then the whole 2nd game. Shot 215. But then the 3rd game as I got probably too far left the ball just wouldn't make the corner anymore. Fought with it for a few frames then switched to the idol cosmos problem solved. What would you consider the problem I was having to be?
Probably locking up, the Dark Code has a REALLY strong core, so it likes straighter angles better, or at least not super wide open ones. The Cosmos has virtually the same cover on it, it's just that the core is rolly and doesn't have the asymmetry to make it more forward.
Is the Absolute a good ball to transition to after starting with the Super Nova during a six game tournament, say maybe after the 2nd or 3rd game?
Absolute might be a bit too far of a step down from a Super, but yeah it's definitely a transition ball. I'd probably put something like a Check or an Infinite between the Super and the Absolute, but with as long and sharp as the Super is for a big ball, you might be able to make it work.
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For Angel what are differences between the check and infinate physix ?
Check is longer and sharper, a little more forward or a little straighter off the end of the pattern, but they hook about the same amount
@@LukeRosdahl so the check is closer to the altered in shape?
@@dewittfiala5021 It's closer to the Altered than the Infinite, but I don't think the Check is actually that similar. Still quite different shapes and reactions for me. The new Eternity that's coming is virtually an Altered Reality though.
I have the Reality Check, and it has been a turd. Honestly has only worked for with polish at a high friction house. I threw the Absolute at a demo and it was really clean, I liked it.
Probably need to completely reset the surface first, however I can see it not being great for some people.
@@LukeRosdahl a team mate also has the check and he loves it. I hear you either love or hate it.
@@CKBowling1 I could believe that, I love mine, but again, I can see how some people wouldn't get along with it.
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Question? Do u use a lighter spare ball? Or do u know folks out that there that do and have success with it? Thx for any response in advice
Nah, same weight, and generally advise against different weights because that can throw you off. You have muscle memory that gets jarred when you go back and forth from one to the other, which leads to over or under throwing one ball or the other occasionally, it's just an inconsistent feel.
@@LukeRosdahl Again, thx for response!