@@Holshe It really depends on where you live: you may have some health food stores (with a bulk section) that carry whole grains. Wheat, oat, and rye berries are often the easiest to find. You can also buy them online. Amazon has some amzn.to/2Z3zNpd but there are other online retailers, too, such as Central Milling. You can also venture into baking with spelt or einkorn. Hope this helps and thank you for your sweet comment ~ Anja
This review is super educational. Im currently a baking school student, and when I heard you use the terms like bran, endosperm, and germ, I know I can trust your knowledge! Also the fact that you have used your KitchenAid attachment for over a decade, i know i can believe in your user's experience! Thank you so much for this very informative video. I'm getting my mockmill attachment for Christmas!
Thank you for sharing a comparison of these two! Just to see how well they work and if I could be pleased with one is such a great help! I decided this is a great fit for me now instead of a full-size one that sits on the countertop.
Thank you ever so much for sharing this video and comparing Mockmill. I found this very useful. I recently bought a KitchenAid and I also managed to find a brand new KitchenAid grain mill, although they are very hard to find as KitchenAid has stopped making them. I will be investing in the Mockmill attachment which I have now found on their website after watching your video. Thanks for going over the bran, endosperm and germ, I had forgotten about that. You are so right about the 'heat' of the grain when grinding and how important it is. And lastly, thanks for the tip about storing it in the fridge and freezer, I didn't know that. Much Appreciated.
I was told when very young (50 years ago +) the phrase, "to put your nose to the grinding stone", was a way to make you aware not to let your grain become hot and ruin it.
Thanks. That was a great demonstration. I have a KitchenAid mixer and I was curious to know if the mock mill would do a good job. You answered my question. I will certainly check out your other videos.
Thanks for the review. I decided to go this route for the same reasons! I like less on my counter, and really like the grinding wheel versus the kitchen aid method. I’m also impressed by the company, and their desire to produce a well engineered product. So glad it works with my kitchen aid!
Just placed my order. Thank you for the discount and free shipping. I’m excited to start my grain milling journey. Since being diagnosed with hashimotos I’ve been directed to get off gluten. The struggle to find alternative gluten free bread sources that taste good is real. Ancient grains will be my first grain to play with. Hope the back orders come in as planned. Thanks again for your channel and info. Judy
Excellent video... I have heard that the Kitchen Aid machine can burn out when using the grainmill especially... there are tutorials on how to service the machine's gears...they need grease and sometimes you need to replace a gear that has worn out... YT has videos on the how to do the job.
thank you for your comment and for sharing about greasing the Kitchen Aid's gears. It depends on how much you're grinding at one time. I find the Kitchen Aids pretty sturdy and have not had an issue with it when I grind my grains (which I have done for over 2 decades). If I do have a problem, I now know where to find help 💛
thank you very much for the comparison, I was wondering if I was doing something wrong with my Kitchenaid attachment since my flour was course than I expected.
Thank you for presenting this comparison. I'm in the process of deciding which meal to buy. I like the versatility of the KitchenAid stand mixer and it's appliances. Just seems more utilitarian and practical then standalone Mills. Saying to myself, okay now I have flour, what's next? That's where the kitchen made stand mixer shines, it solves the what next problems. 😁 As I scanned the videos on your channel I'm impressed with the range of subjects in your videos. I'll be sure to watch them too. 👍
The instructions that came with my KitchenAid Mill attachment say to put the mixer on the highest speed. My flour comes out reasonably fine. Yes, the flour gets warm so I stop for a few minutes to cool the attachment and the mixer motor down and while I’m waiting those few minutes, I put the flour in the fridge to cool that off also. In the future, I will be refrigerating the wheat berries the night before.
Thanks for your reply. In Australia, we cannot buy the Mockmill mixer attachment. We can buy the stand alone mills though. I think the KitchenAid does not use stones to mill the grain, because firstly you reported it runs hotter than the Mockmill attachment does, and secondly, KitchenAid advertise that is it "All Metal". If its "all metal", then, it would not have stone grinders!!! Thanks again.
I was looking into getting a grain mill for my Kitchenaid and I’m so happy that I came across your review! I’ll definitely be looking into getting the Mockmill. Thank you for posting this... it was super helpful. Got another subscriber! 😊
I was going to get Mockmill attachment because the grind on my KA is not fine enough for my breads. For a little more I can buy the whole machine Mockmill!
It's always best to follow the official recommendation to be safe. I have been milling flour on the highest setting for years without problems, though 😊 ~ anja
Anja, I’m currently debating between these two accessories. I wonder however, do you think the age (17 years) of your Kitchenaid grinder might have something to do with the poor showing against the Mockmill? I wonder if the burrs have been worn down a bit and are not ass efficient and effective.
The main difference between the Mockmill and the Kitchenaid attachment is that the former uses stone grinders (ceramic) and the other one steel. Steel heats up more quickly ~ Anja
Hi, I have a kitchenaide mixer and recently purchased the attachment. The booklet told me to grind on the 10 setting. I noticed the machine got much hotter on 2 than it did on 10. I am disappointed with the finest grind that is finer than cornmeal but certainly not a flour.
Hi Sharon, have you turned the dial on the actual attachment to the finest setting? The setting on the Kitchenaid is just the speed. For more questions, I recommend you contact Mockmill directly: mockmill.us Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
@@OurGabledHome I sent mine back. 5 minutes for half a cup does not work for me. Kitchen aide over heated too. Not as fine as I needed either. Wonder Mill is quicker and works better
Thanks, this video was very informative. I just received a grain mill attachment as a gift. I wish I had known about the MockMill before. Live and learn.
Thank you for comparing both attachment Mills. I wanted this comparison, and you have done one! Marvellous! I am in Australia and it seems while the Mockmill stand alone is available here, the mixer add on (I think the Mockmill would also work on some other mixers as well) is not available in Australia, although the KitchenAid one is available. From my research, evidently the Mockmill stand alone will grind flower finer too. Since I haven't ground my own flour yet, I don't know to what degree the fineness is! I also wondered, whether the KitchenAid mill used two stones to grind the flower ... if there is a large difference in temperature, perhaps it does not use stones to grind the kernals? Thanks again and I appreciate your efforts and your video was to the point, friendly and most enjoyable.
Thank you so much! I am glad you found this helpful! I believe that the Kitchen Aid uses two stones but I am not certain. The finer the grind the harder the machine has to work. Even the Mockmill will get warm after grinding large amounts of grain on the finest setting. However, if you have the space and want to grind grain regularly, you might be happier with the Mockmill stand-alone. Hope this helps 💛 ~ Anja
Hi Aussie here too. I have both. That was a good video. The kitchen aid is all metal and cannot make fine flour. I got the mock mill from US Amazon and it was embarrassingly expensive, but I did not want another big powered appliance. It’s great, but I have to grind in a couple of batches at low speed so to manage the kitchen aid motor temperature. The manual recommends this.. It doesn’t really matter, as it doesn’t need attention and you can hear when it’s finished. It does lift the quality of bread, but not hugely. However whole grains last much better than flour, and you can mix a wide variety. Now I need some good sieves apparently. Currently mixing about 50% white with it for lighter breads.
Most often I mill about 4 cups of berries at a time and have never had a problem. Of course, you'd want to make sure to turn it off if you feel too much heat or a funny smell. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
The link that has the kitchen aid mixer, for the grinder, on Amazon, actually says it is “unavailable”.☹️. No problem. I will still follow you. I am German too.🙂
Danke Dir!! When I created that link, the attachment was available. It's hard for me to regularly check. I just hope that they can stock that attachment soon ~ Anja
Just came across your channel, you are wonderful, thank you! My question is about these attachments. I have used my Kitchenaid mixer and it's many attachments for years and I would love to purchase the Mockmill but cannot find it anywhere, including their website. Did they stop producing this attachment?
So glad you're enjoying my videos!! Most of the Mockmill models are out of stock but they're expecting a large shipment later this month so stay tuned 👍
Is your Mockmill Kitchenaid a metal or plastic housing? Mine that I just received is all plastic and feels cheap. When I first researched buying one of these about 3 years ago, they were an all metal housing.
Hm ... I haven't heard that and I have never done that. I think it also depends on what kind of bread result you're looking for. I often add about 25% or so of freshly milled whole-grain flour to my artisan-style bread. You can see it here: th-cam.com/video/s1wpHMEhc08/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps ~ Anja
My question is this, if Kitchenaid states you should start at a coarser grind and then do a second finer grind, why are you going staight for a fine grind?
Kitchenaids get warm if you run them for an extended period of time. They won't heat up as fast at a lower speed. I run mine between the 4-6 speeds with the mill on the finest setting. The flour comes out fine. If I want it finer I sift it. Slower mixer speeds don't effect the flour quality.
I am not sure of the wattage of my KitchenAid but I am sure yours can handle the Mockmill grain attachment just fine. You can also contact the customer service over at Mockmill. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
This was perfect timing :) I am in the market for a grain mill and am sort of saving for the stand alone mockmill but....... for the amount i would use the mill, i think the 'attachment' would be just fine. Still debating on which one only as i see a 'new' one on offerup for only 75.oo. only thing,,,,,i just want to get one and not keep trying to get better nd better... haha. I was also looking ofer your other videos... looking forward to doing some things :) I dont think i saw your whole grain bread and i'd LOVE a video for that. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
Oh, I am so glad you find this helpful!! I am only aware of one grain mill attachment by Mockmill but maybe I am missing something? However, I totally recommend it. Here's the video for my whole grain bread: th-cam.com/video/L5GgppcclBM/w-d-xo.html
@@OurGabledHome Thank you so much for your help and looking forward to using my "mockmill 100" when i receive it ;) I think i love my kitchenaide too much to possibly strain it with using for grain only because i dont have the pro one. Well, anyway, thanks again :) will be watching more.
To reduce the heat you will need to grind in stages. Reducing the size of the grind as you go reduces the fiction that causes the heat. Doing this will also not make your motor work as hard.
Yes, freshly milled rye flour would be amazing for this bread but you may have to adjust the amount of water a bit to get the same consistency. Hope this helps ~ Anja
Vielen Dank für das tolle Video. Ich habe eine Frage und vielleicht können Sie mir helfen. Ich wollte eine Second Hand Mockmill kaufen, aber die Verkäuferin hat die lange Schraube nicht, sagt aber dass sie die normale Kitcheaid -schraube benutzt. Habe Sie ausprobiert ob es mir der normalen Schraube funktioniert? Vielen dank im voraus.
Das freut mich riesig, daß Ihnen das Video gefällt! Normalerweise rät Mockmill dazu, die lange Schraube zu benutzen. Ich kann mir sogar vorstellen, daß man die dort auch nachbestellen kann 😊 ~ Anja
I've not finished this video yet, so I don't know the outcome. But the one bowl on her left, looking at her is our right, appears to have more in It. The one with less in it ended up being used first into the mockmill. I'm interested in the outcome, so I'll finish watching. Update: I didn't finish the video, after she started the kitchen on high right away then it malfunctioning after all the times she's used it. Well I was finished watching.
I found this in their official manual: "The Mockmill stone burr is only designed for use with the following substances, which must be under 15% (by weight) water content: Common dry grains including wheat (either hard or soft types), oat groats (dehulled oats), rice, triticale, khorosan (Kamut), spelt, buckwheat, barley, rye, millet, teff, quinoa, amaranth, sorghum, feld corn (but not popcorn), dry lentils, dry beans (such as pinto, red, navy and kidney) and dry spices. Milling of any substance not listed here may void your warranty. There are exceptions, so please contact us if you have any doubts or questions as to what may be milled." Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
Thank you for this video--it was helpful. I was vacillating between the Kitchenaid attachment and the Mockmill and your video helped sway me towards the Mockmill. I also am reassured by the fact that Mockmill is German engineered. I have one on order now from Pleasant Grain Company and am anxiously awaiting it's arrival in June (I hope). May I ask, do you order your whole wheat berries from a particular source that you trust? Would you be willing to share that source?
Nice, Helen! You will love your new grain mill! I have had luck ordering grains off amazon.com but normally I buy them from centralmilling.com. They have a store in my area (check if they have one close to you) but they also ship. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
You're english is very good, I wouldn't have guessed you are german if you hadn't said so. Grüßle von der anderen Seite vom großen Teich, das ich nun von dir über den Mühlenaufsatz vom Heren Mock aus dem Odenwald für meine Kitchenaid aus Michigan die in Hessen steht zeichnet doch irgendwie ein recht hübsches Bild von Globalisierung.
I have the kitchen aid accessory and have used it..I really does seem to tax the machine. Like you speak of the smell of flour, all I smelled was the belts melting
I personally haven't tried grinding chickpeas in the Kitchenaid grain mill attachment but I know people who have. My experience is that on the finest grind you can only grind a small amount otherwise the machine will run very hot. If you needed it finer than that you could always re-grind it or sift out the bigger pieces with a fine-mesh sieve. Hope this helps ~ Anja
I bought this mockmill attachment after watching this video and the problem I’m having is getting the attachment off the stand mixer after using it. Is anyone else having a hard time getting the attachment off?
Hi Rachelle, I personally have not had this issue. Have you tried wiggling it before taking it out? Otherwise, I'd suggest reaching out to Mockmill mockmill.us/support/ Hope this helps 💛 ~ Anja
I am not certain you can mill chickpeas in the Mockmill attachment but definitely in their other grain mills th-cam.com/video/Hxbof9AxR8E/w-d-xo.html If, in doubt, I would reach out to their customer service. Hope this helps ~ Anja
Hello, I´m from Colombia and I wanted to know if there is a mill that can be used to make almond flour and also to make grain (rice, wheat, chickpea, etc.) flour?; and are those high quality mills always noisy? thank you
I am not sure about grinding almonds but with the Mockmill you can mill rice, wheat, and garbanzo beans. You can find more information here: mockmill.us Hope this helps!
If in doubt, you definitely want to follow KitchenAid's official recommendation. However, I have never experienced a problem milling on the highest setting when I mill 4-5 cups of grains. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
I have the grain mill attachment and am not happy with it. I can only grind to #3. For #2 and 1, the grain sticks in the hopper and won't drop down the the grinder. And, of course, you can't push it down further because of the grid grate on top. I can't get it as nicely ground as commercial and that's what I want. I grind grains with my Vitamix blender and it does grind grain as fine as commercial.
I am so sorry to hear that! I recommend that you reach out to the Mockmill US customer support as they can best help you: mockmill.us/support/ Hope this helps ~ Anja
Do you find that the attachment mills less fine than the mockmill stand up units … I have the 200 and I bought the attachment for my parents and it seems like the attachment doesn’t mill as fine Thx
The grinding mechanism is the same so the flour should come out the same but it will be slower than the 200. You can get more info in this comparison video: th-cam.com/video/hXoIrtqNgYg/w-d-xo.html
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I'd love to hear from you with all your questions and comments!
I enjoy your videos! Thank you! Where do you recommend I buy whole grains and what kind do you recommend I start with?
@@Holshe It really depends on where you live: you may have some health food stores (with a bulk section) that carry whole grains. Wheat, oat, and rye berries are often the easiest to find. You can also buy them online. Amazon has some amzn.to/2Z3zNpd but there are other online retailers, too, such as Central Milling. You can also venture into baking with spelt or einkorn. Hope this helps and thank you for your sweet comment ~ Anja
Azure Standard great prices on grains
This review is super educational. Im currently a baking school student, and when I heard you use the terms like bran, endosperm, and germ, I know I can trust your knowledge! Also the fact that you have used your KitchenAid attachment for over a decade, i know i can believe in your user's experience! Thank you so much for this very informative video. I'm getting my mockmill attachment for Christmas!
And my school uses the mockmill 200 stone miller. But I only learned that they have an attachment version after watching your video! Thank you again!
Awesome, thank you! I am so glad you found this helpful 😊 ~ Anja
The Mockmill 200 is definitely a very nice grain mill 😌 ~ Anja
I grind my grains after being in the fridge or freezer. I'll even put my grinder in the freezer. Danke fur den video, war wunderbar.
Put the grain through twice....once in course and once in fine , take your time....speed makes it hot.
Yes, thank you so much for sharing 😊 ~ Anja
Thank you for sharing a comparison of these two! Just to see how well they work and if I could be pleased with one is such a great help! I decided this is a great fit for me now instead of a full-size one that sits on the countertop.
I am so glad you found this helpful and thank you for commenting 😊 ~ Anja
I had no idea mockmill made an attachment for kitchenaid! So glad I watched!
Oh, nice! It is a very good one 😊 ~ Anja
Thank you ever so much for sharing this video and comparing Mockmill. I found this very useful. I recently bought a KitchenAid and I also managed to find a brand new KitchenAid grain mill, although they are very hard to find as KitchenAid has stopped making them. I will be investing in the Mockmill attachment which I have now found on their website after watching your video. Thanks for going over the bran, endosperm and germ, I had forgotten about that. You are so right about the 'heat' of the grain when grinding and how important it is. And lastly, thanks for the tip about storing it in the fridge and freezer, I didn't know that. Much Appreciated.
I am so glad you found this video helpful 😊
"Quick rundown " but very thorough and to the point. Thanks
I was told when very young (50 years ago +) the phrase, "to put your nose to the grinding stone", was a way to make you aware not to let your grain become hot and ruin it.
Oh, that's a good one! Thank you so much for sharing 😊 ~ Anja
First time using my kitchen aid grinder. It's great!!!! Thanks for all your help and encouragement.
Great to hear!
Thanks. That was a great demonstration. I have a KitchenAid mixer and I was curious to know if the mock mill would do a good job. You answered my question. I will certainly check out your other videos.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the review. I decided to go this route for the same reasons! I like less on my counter, and really like the grinding wheel versus the kitchen aid method. I’m also impressed by the company, and their desire to produce a well engineered product. So glad it works with my kitchen aid!
Sounds great 😊 ~ Anja
Just placed my order. Thank you for the discount and free shipping. I’m excited to start my grain milling journey. Since being diagnosed with hashimotos I’ve been directed to get off gluten. The struggle to find alternative gluten free bread sources that taste good is real. Ancient grains will be my first grain to play with. Hope the back orders come in as planned. Thanks again for your channel and info. Judy
Thank you so much, Judy! You might want to start with einkorn or spelt and aim for an 8+ hour fermentation 😊 ~ Anja
I did buy einkorn to start. Thank you for the fermentation idea. This will be a whole new experience for us.
I appreciate your comparisons of the two mills. I haven’t decided whether I want to buy a mill.
Hi Linda, I am so glad you found this helpful. I will post a video about the various Mockmill models very soon. Stay tuned ... 😊 ~ Anja
You answered my question about the Vitamix. That was what I was trying to figure out.
Excellent video... I have heard that the Kitchen Aid machine can burn out when using the grainmill especially... there are tutorials on how to service the machine's gears...they need grease and sometimes you need to replace a gear that has worn out... YT has videos on the how to do the job.
thank you for your comment and for sharing about greasing the Kitchen Aid's gears. It depends on how much you're grinding at one time. I find the Kitchen Aids pretty sturdy and have not had an issue with it when I grind my grains (which I have done for over 2 decades). If I do have a problem, I now know where to find help 💛
Can you link video on how to grease gears?
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thank you very much for the comparison, I was wondering if I was doing something wrong with my Kitchenaid attachment since my flour was course than I expected.
Thank you for presenting this comparison. I'm in the process of deciding which meal to buy. I like the versatility of the KitchenAid stand mixer and it's appliances. Just seems more utilitarian and practical then standalone Mills. Saying to myself, okay now I have flour, what's next? That's where the kitchen made stand mixer shines, it solves the what next problems. 😁 As I scanned the videos on your channel I'm impressed with the range of subjects in your videos. I'll be sure to watch them too. 👍
Hi Daniel, I am so glad you enjoyed this video and thank you so much for your nice comment 😊 ~ Anja
Thanks for sharing the different attachments and how you like them
I am so glad you found this video helpful and thank your commenting 😊 ~ Anja
The instructions that came with my KitchenAid Mill attachment say to put the mixer on the highest speed. My flour comes out reasonably fine. Yes, the flour gets warm so I stop for a few minutes to cool the attachment and the mixer motor down and while I’m waiting those few minutes, I put the flour in the fridge to cool that off also. In the future, I will be refrigerating the wheat berries the night before.
Sounds great, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for your reply. In Australia, we cannot buy the Mockmill mixer attachment. We can buy the stand alone mills though. I think the KitchenAid does not use stones to mill the grain, because firstly you reported it runs hotter than the Mockmill attachment does, and secondly, KitchenAid advertise that is it "All Metal". If its "all metal", then, it would not have stone grinders!!! Thanks again.
Good to know; that makes sense 😊
What a happy and cozy kitchen you have! I really appreciate the detailed review 😊
thank you so much for your nice comment! We do love our kitchen 💛
I use KitchenAid grain mill to mill flour, corn grits, and rice grits. I dehydrate organic Corn then jar it untill I mill it for grits and Corn Meal.
Sounds great!
Thank you I am going to get a mock mill for my Kichen Aid bowl lift!
Have fun!
I was looking into getting a grain mill for my Kitchenaid and I’m so happy that I came across your review! I’ll definitely be looking into getting the Mockmill. Thank you for posting this... it was super helpful. Got another subscriber! 😊
I am so glad you found this helpful! Thank you so much for commenting 💛 ~ Anja
I’ll grind 5-6 cups, pause run it through a second time if needed, then store in the fridge. I use it in about a week or so when baking.
Thank you for sharing!
Wow! Thank you for this post! I have a Kitchen Aid! I am going to try and purchase the attachment to mill! woohoo!
Great! I am so glad you find this video helpful! Thank you so much 💛 ~ Anja
I was going to get Mockmill attachment because the grind on my KA is not fine enough for my breads. For a little more I can buy the whole machine Mockmill!
I am so glad that you posted this! Have you ever used the coarsest grind on the Mockmill for oats to make something more like steel-cut oats?
I have not but it might actually work!
We put the attachment in the freezer for a few minutes before we grind. Not overnight!
Sounds good and thank you so much for sharing 😊 ~ Anja
Kitchen aid says only do 2 to 3 on the mixer. Thanks for the comparison.
It's always best to follow the official recommendation to be safe. I have been milling flour on the highest setting for years without problems, though 😊 ~ anja
This is the video I was looking for! Thank you for making this. Really appriciate it.
yeah! That really makes my day to know that you enjoyed this video 😊
I always keep my grain frozen and grind it frozen so it never heats up
How much can you grind at a time? Or for how long can you grind until it gets to hot?
Answers? Please? Anja ?
Anja, I’m currently debating between these two accessories. I wonder however, do you think the age (17 years) of your Kitchenaid grinder might have something to do with the poor showing against the Mockmill? I wonder if the burrs have been worn down a bit and are not ass efficient and effective.
The main difference between the Mockmill and the Kitchenaid attachment is that the former uses stone grinders (ceramic) and the other one steel. Steel heats up more quickly ~ Anja
Does the Mockmill attachment grind as fine and as cool as the countertop Mockmill?
Yes, it’s the same grinding mechanism. You can also mill the flour again to get it even finer.
Hi, I have a kitchenaide mixer and recently purchased the attachment. The booklet told me to grind on the 10 setting. I noticed the machine got much hotter on 2 than it did on 10. I am disappointed with the finest grind that is finer than cornmeal but certainly not a flour.
Hi Sharon, have you turned the dial on the actual attachment to the finest setting? The setting on the Kitchenaid is just the speed. For more questions, I recommend you contact Mockmill directly: mockmill.us Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
@@OurGabledHome I sent mine back. 5 minutes for half a cup does not work for me. Kitchen aide over heated too. Not as fine as I needed either. Wonder Mill is quicker and works better
@@janstoll8881 I am sorry to hear you didn't like your Mockmill ~ Anja
How do you cook on your oven without smoking the whole house!! Thanks for the video!
We have a venting hood - or just open the windows 😊 ~ Anja
Thank you so much for this wonderful video!
thank you so much! Glad you like it 💛
Thanks, this video was very informative. I just received a grain mill attachment as a gift. I wish I had known about the MockMill before. Live and learn.
What a nice gift to receive! I am sure your grain mill will just work fine. Happy baking ~ Anja
Thank you for making exactly the type of comparison I needed, danke!!
Oh, great, I am so glad you found this helpful und bitte schön 😊 ~ Anja
Thank you for comparing both attachment Mills. I wanted this comparison, and you have done one! Marvellous! I am in Australia and it seems while the Mockmill stand alone is available here, the mixer add on (I think the Mockmill would also work on some other mixers as well) is not available in Australia, although the KitchenAid one is available. From my research, evidently the Mockmill stand alone will grind flower finer too. Since I haven't ground my own flour yet, I don't know to what degree the fineness is! I also wondered, whether the KitchenAid mill used two stones to grind the flower ... if there is a large difference in temperature, perhaps it does not use stones to grind the kernals? Thanks again and I appreciate your efforts and your video was to the point, friendly and most enjoyable.
Thank you so much! I am glad you found this helpful! I believe that the Kitchen Aid uses two stones but I am not certain. The finer the grind the harder the machine has to work. Even the Mockmill will get warm after grinding large amounts of grain on the finest setting. However, if you have the space and want to grind grain regularly, you might be happier with the Mockmill stand-alone. Hope this helps 💛 ~ Anja
Hi Aussie here too. I have both. That was a good video. The kitchen aid is all metal and cannot make fine flour. I got the mock mill from US Amazon and it was embarrassingly expensive, but I did not want another big powered appliance. It’s great, but I have to grind in a couple of batches at low speed so to manage the kitchen aid motor temperature. The manual recommends this.. It doesn’t really matter, as it doesn’t need attention and you can hear when it’s finished. It does lift the quality of bread, but not hugely. However whole grains last much better than flour, and you can mix a wide variety. Now I need some good sieves apparently. Currently mixing about 50% white with it for lighter breads.
@@nvll-xzi yes, thank you for sharing! Any machine can get hot and grinding in batches is a good idea! And thank you for your nice comment 💛 ~ Anja
Higher temperatures in flour when grinding will cause oxidation.
exactly! That is why you want to keep the temperature during grinding as low as possible.
Great Vid, thanks. Can you make 0-0 flour? This is very fine used for making pizza.
Unfortunately you cannot make 00 flower. In fact, on the finest grind setting, the flour is still slightly coarser than commercial whole wheat flour.
You would probably have to sift the flour ~ Anja
I read that you shouldn't run your mixer higher than a 2 or 4 while using this attachment - have you always used a faster setting?
Most often I mill about 4 cups of berries at a time and have never had a problem. Of course, you'd want to make sure to turn it off if you feel too much heat or a funny smell. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
Anja question? The whole grain berries 1/2 cup does that equal 1/2 cup ground flour? Thank you !! 🎉
Yes, approximately
Also do you think the Kitchenaid mill can grind the flower to double 0 fineness? 00 flour is used in puff pastry.
I am not certain but that would largely depend on how much you can sift out the germ and bran. Hope this helps ~ Anja
The link that has the kitchen aid mixer, for the grinder, on Amazon, actually says it is “unavailable”.☹️. No problem. I will still follow you. I am German too.🙂
Danke Dir!! When I created that link, the attachment was available. It's hard for me to regularly check. I just hope that they can stock that attachment soon ~ Anja
Just came across your channel, you are wonderful, thank you! My question is about these attachments. I have used my Kitchenaid mixer and it's many attachments for years and I would love to purchase the Mockmill but cannot find it anywhere, including their website. Did they stop producing this attachment?
So glad you're enjoying my videos!! Most of the Mockmill models are out of stock but they're expecting a large shipment later this month so stay tuned 👍
I just found the attachment available now on their website!!!@@OurGabledHome
Is your Mockmill Kitchenaid a metal or plastic housing? Mine that I just received is all plastic and feels cheap. When I first researched buying one of these about 3 years ago, they were an all metal housing.
I’ve heard that you need to sift the bran out of the flour after you grind it or it will affect gluten structure. Is this your experience?
Hm ... I haven't heard that and I have never done that. I think it also depends on what kind of bread result you're looking for. I often add about 25% or so of freshly milled whole-grain flour to my artisan-style bread. You can see it here: th-cam.com/video/s1wpHMEhc08/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps ~ Anja
Thanks so much for this…just wondering if we shouldn’t heat the flour, then should we be eating our bread within 24hours?
I think it has something to do with the dry heat of the milling. Your bread will last longer, though 😊 ~ Anja
My question is this, if Kitchenaid states you should start at a coarser grind and then do a second finer grind, why are you going staight for a fine grind?
You often get a finer grind if you mill the flour twice.
GREAT. REVIEW. THANKS. I AM OFF TO THE MOCKMILL STORE
Hi Roger, I am so glad you found this helpful and thank you 😊 ~ Anja
Curious if the heat came from the high speed you were running it at? If you use the Kitchenaid mill at slow speed does it effect result?
That is possible but I usually mill 4-5 cups of flour so I prefer a grain mill with better capacity if that makes sense ~ Anja
Kitchenaids get warm if you run them for an extended period of time. They won't heat up as fast at a lower speed. I run mine between the 4-6 speeds with the mill on the finest setting. The flour comes out fine. If I want it finer I sift it. Slower mixer speeds don't effect the flour quality.
I have a 350 Watt Kitchen Aid stand mixer. Is it sufficent wattage for the Mockmill grain attachment? Thank you!
I am not sure of the wattage of my KitchenAid but I am sure yours can handle the Mockmill grain attachment just fine. You can also contact the customer service over at Mockmill. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
Thank you
This was perfect timing :) I am in the market for a grain mill and am sort of saving for the stand alone mockmill but....... for the amount i would use the mill, i think the 'attachment' would be just fine. Still debating on which one only as i see a 'new' one on offerup for only 75.oo. only thing,,,,,i just want to get one and not keep trying to get better nd better... haha. I was also looking ofer your other videos... looking forward to doing some things :) I dont think i saw your whole grain bread and i'd LOVE a video for that. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
Oh, I am so glad you find this helpful!! I am only aware of one grain mill attachment by Mockmill but maybe I am missing something? However, I totally recommend it. Here's the video for my whole grain bread: th-cam.com/video/L5GgppcclBM/w-d-xo.html
@@OurGabledHome Thank you so much for your help and looking forward to using my "mockmill 100" when i receive it ;) I think i love my kitchenaide too much to possibly strain it with using for grain only because i dont have the pro one. Well, anyway, thanks again :) will be watching more.
@@jillk2316 thank you and happy baking 💛
Hi. Would you happen to know why the Mockmill attachment won’t work on the KA artisan mini mixer?
Good question bu I am not sure exactly why ~ Anja
Thank you for this very informative video!
I am so glad you enjoyed this video! Thank you so much for your nice comment 💛 ~ Anja
To reduce the heat you will need to grind in stages. Reducing the size of the grind as you go reduces the fiction that causes the heat. Doing this will also not make your motor work as hard.
yes! Depending on how much you're grinding, letting the machine cool down may do the trick. And using a slower speed 😊 ~ Anja
Hello, I was just looking at your recipe for rye sourdough, can you mill the rye for this bread?
Yes, freshly milled rye flour would be amazing for this bread but you may have to adjust the amount of water a bit to get the same consistency. Hope this helps ~ Anja
Vielen Dank für das tolle Video. Ich habe eine Frage und vielleicht können Sie mir helfen. Ich wollte eine Second Hand Mockmill kaufen, aber die Verkäuferin hat die lange Schraube nicht, sagt aber dass sie die normale Kitcheaid -schraube benutzt. Habe Sie ausprobiert ob es mir der normalen Schraube funktioniert? Vielen dank im voraus.
Das freut mich riesig, daß Ihnen das Video gefällt! Normalerweise rät Mockmill dazu, die lange Schraube zu benutzen. Ich kann mir sogar vorstellen, daß man die dort auch nachbestellen kann 😊 ~ Anja
@@OurGabledHome Vielen Dank. Ich habe nachgefragt und werde sie dort kaufen. Nochmals vielen Dank
I've not finished this video yet, so I don't know the outcome.
But the one bowl on her left, looking at her is our right, appears to have more in It.
The one with less in it ended up being used first into the mockmill.
I'm interested in the outcome, so I'll finish watching.
Update:
I didn't finish the video, after she started the kitchen on high right away then it malfunctioning after all the times she's used it.
Well I was finished watching.
I enjoy listening to you
Aww ... thank you 💛
do you think the coarsest setting would work to crack soy beans?
I found this in their official manual: "The Mockmill stone burr is only designed for use with the following substances, which must be under 15% (by weight) water content:
Common dry grains including wheat (either hard or soft types), oat groats (dehulled oats), rice, triticale, khorosan (Kamut), spelt, buckwheat, barley, rye, millet, teff, quinoa, amaranth, sorghum, feld corn (but not popcorn), dry lentils, dry beans (such as pinto, red, navy and kidney) and dry spices. Milling of any substance not listed here may void your warranty. There are exceptions, so please contact us if you
have any doubts or questions as to what may be milled." Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
you are not suppose to go over the speed setting of 4 it will over heat your mixer, as well as no more than 10 cups at a time
Thank you for sharing ~ Anja
Thank you for this video--it was helpful. I was vacillating between the Kitchenaid attachment and the Mockmill and your video helped sway me towards the Mockmill. I also am reassured by the fact that Mockmill is German engineered. I have one on order now from Pleasant Grain Company and am anxiously awaiting it's arrival in June (I hope). May I ask, do you order your whole wheat berries from a particular source that you trust? Would you be willing to share that source?
Nice, Helen! You will love your new grain mill! I have had luck ordering grains off amazon.com but normally I buy them from centralmilling.com. They have a store in my area (check if they have one close to you) but they also ship. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
@@OurGabledHome thank you for the info...I will try that company
You're english is very good, I wouldn't have guessed you are german if you hadn't said so.
Grüßle von der anderen Seite vom großen Teich, das ich nun von dir über den Mühlenaufsatz vom Heren Mock aus dem Odenwald für meine Kitchenaid aus Michigan die in Hessen steht zeichnet doch irgendwie ein recht hübsches Bild von Globalisierung.
Danke - und viel Spaß beim Mahlen und Backen wünscht Anja
I have the kitchen aid accessory and have used it..I really does seem to tax the machine. Like you speak of the smell of flour, all I smelled was the belts melting
That's interesting! I have never had that experience. It might have something to do with how much flour you grind and on what setting.
I was grinding a lot, like a #10 can full
that may have been too much. Have you tried to divide it into two portions and let the machine cool down in between?
Yes I kept stopping for 15 minutes at a pop.
How does it grind corn?
I have not tried it myself but have heard that people have successfully milled corn in the Mockmill. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
Do you have to clean the Mockmill?
Yes! You can check my full blog post about it here: ourgabledhome.com/how-to-easily-clean-your-mockmill/😊 ~ Anja
Super helpful.
Great review !!
Thank you so much, I am glad you enjoyed it 💛 ~ Anja
Hi can you grind chickpeas in the kitchenaid grinder? Thanks. Also on the fine grind is that like shop bought flour texture?
I personally haven't tried grinding chickpeas in the Kitchenaid grain mill attachment but I know people who have. My experience is that on the finest grind you can only grind a small amount otherwise the machine will run very hot. If you needed it finer than that you could always re-grind it or sift out the bigger pieces with a fine-mesh sieve. Hope this helps ~ Anja
@@OurGabledHome much appreciated thanks for the help.
@@cbrooke879 You are so welcome!
I bought this mockmill attachment after watching this video and the problem I’m having is getting the attachment off the stand mixer after using it. Is anyone else having a hard time getting the attachment off?
Hi Rachelle, I personally have not had this issue. Have you tried wiggling it before taking it out? Otherwise, I'd suggest reaching out to Mockmill mockmill.us/support/ Hope this helps 💛 ~ Anja
Our Gabled Home thank you Anja!
How can I mill garbanzo beans in this mill ?
I am not certain you can mill chickpeas in the Mockmill attachment but definitely in their other grain mills th-cam.com/video/Hxbof9AxR8E/w-d-xo.html If, in doubt, I would reach out to their customer service. Hope this helps ~ Anja
Can I grind spices?
Yes! You can read more here: mockmill.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/MM_100-200_Anleitung_EN.pdf
Does it fit kitchen aid artisan?
Yes!!
@@OurGabledHome thank you !
Can you grain a cereal?
Hi Marifel, I am not sure I understand your question but there is very little you CANNOT mill in these grain mills 😊 ~ Anja
Hello, I´m from Colombia and I wanted to know if there is a mill that can be used to make almond flour and also to make grain (rice, wheat, chickpea, etc.) flour?; and are those high quality mills always noisy? thank you
I am not sure about grinding almonds but with the Mockmill you can mill rice, wheat, and garbanzo beans. You can find more information here: mockmill.us Hope this helps!
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KitcheAid told me NOT to turn up the speed past 2 or 3 MAX. It will burn out the motor.
If in doubt, you definitely want to follow KitchenAid's official recommendation. However, I have never experienced a problem milling on the highest setting when I mill 4-5 cups of grains. Hope this helps 😊 ~ Anja
Not everything made in Germany is good sign! Look at VW' dieselgate,
Aww .... please don't burst this German girl's bubble 😏 ~ Anja
Try washing it - it TURNS BLACK!!!
I have the grain mill attachment and am not happy with it. I can only grind to #3. For #2 and 1, the grain sticks in the hopper and won't drop down the the grinder. And, of course, you can't push it down further because of the grid grate on top. I can't get it as nicely ground as commercial and that's what I want. I grind grains with my Vitamix blender and it does grind grain as fine as commercial.
BTW, I live in a semi-arid climate and the grains still stick together and wont drop down.
I am so sorry to hear that! I recommend that you reach out to the Mockmill US customer support as they can best help you: mockmill.us/support/ Hope this helps ~ Anja
That may or not make a difference. Mockmill customer support will be able to help you!
Do you find that the attachment mills less fine than the mockmill stand up units … I have the 200 and I bought the attachment for my parents and it seems like the attachment doesn’t mill as fine
Thx
The grinding mechanism is the same so the flour should come out the same but it will be slower than the 200. You can get more info in this comparison video: th-cam.com/video/hXoIrtqNgYg/w-d-xo.html
@@OurGabledHome thx!