Building a 8" Coaxial Stereo Speaker & Subwoofer System with Tang Band - by SoundBlab
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- This build uses new drivers from Tang Band (www.tb-speaker.com) in the form of two 8" coaxial drivers and an 8" pancake style subwoofer driver. The quality of these drivers are exceptional, and this is definitely a high end build. These drivers perform very well, and sound smooth with great detail in the highs (up to 40000Hz), natural mid tones and the high power subwoofer provides plenty of bass down to 35Hz.
There is no build plan for this build due to its complexity, however the parts list and the SketchUp files available to all my Patreon supporters here: / 2-1-tang-band-32023330
I will also share the files later to those who support me on TH-cam Membership when it's launched.
PARTS LIST:
- 2x Tang Band W8-2314 8" Coaxial Full-Range Woofer - (US) parts-express.sjv.io/oemyDn , (EU) bit.ly/3HCxtLF
- 1x Tang Band W8-2282 8" Low Profile Subwoofer 4 Ohm - (US) parts-express.sjv.io/zaZ2Ge , (EU) bit.ly/3HHn6Gu
- 1x Dayton Audio SPA250 250 Watt Subwoofer Plate Amplifier - (US) parts-express.sjv.io/2rbWzg , (EU) bit.ly/3lj27Cc
- 2x Dayton Audio BPA-38SN HD Binding Post Banana Jack Pair Satin Nickel - (US) parts-express.sjv.io/DV9LgG , (EU) bit.ly/3jAZpaR
- A list to Crossover Components are available via my Patreon page ( / soundblab ) and TH-cam Membership.
- 18mm Birch Plywood
- 16mm Medium Density Fibre Board
- 4x Penn-Elcom F1615 Rubber Cabinet Foot - (US) parts-express.sjv.io/YgEyPm
- 50 feet of speaker wire (14 AWG) - (US) parts-express.sjv.io/e4yRJz , (EU) bit.ly/39erRI4
- 1x SHINA Chamfer Router Bit 45 Degree 1/2-Inch Shank 2-Inch Cutting Length About 1-Inch Cutting Height 2 Flutes - amzn.to/2q4DNrA
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How would you suggest I go about ordering the TB drivers? Ive been to the website, however was unable to discern any checkout process. I absolutely adore the look of these coaxials, and would love to attempt this build! Ps just subscribed to your patreon! Keep up the beautifully inspired work!
Not sure where u located but I tried parts Express but delivery was just over the top
@@rezo786 Mine came in sheet metal wrapped boxes due to the super powerful magnets.
SoundBlab.. Please sell it to me 😁
your building quality is AMAZING !. it shows well in the complexity of the design.
wow!. great work, as well as the sound . kudos 👍.
My respect for your knowledge and practice, my grandfather said, if you made anything and looks easy to do, you are "chingon" (a real professional expert) in mexican slang, congratulations.
Thanks.
Really like these coaxes, one of very few that have tweeter coupled to midrange cone the right way. Wanna try the 6.5" version in floorstanders, each coupled to two W6-1139SI(F)s. Too bad I don't have space in my livingroom for anything like that.
Wow. I'd love to buy these. They're just right for an extra room I have. Great work. I loved watching them come together.
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What one fails to appreciate listening to these speakers on cheap earbuds is the tone and texture of the full range paper cone. They bring a sense of life that other drivers made of aramid or polypropylene just fails at.
Yeah, the comes on these do have a very good tone.
I like tone of ..... All Tang band drivers made with bamboo cone 🔥🔥🔥.......
So natural ... In this price ... Range
My parents enter my room
My speakers blasting on full: 23:12
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Отличная работа. Сделано от души и для души...
Looks like KEF LS series speakers. Satisfying build. Thank you for the experience.
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Nice work! always quality content from you 👍
Two years ago I was so inspired by one of your videos that I had to make my own 2.1 system with the same bluetooth Amp you used.
Thats awesome. Thanks!
Fantastic build! Love the look of those. Man, I wish I had a workshop like yours (and the woodworking skill) to build something like that! Keep up the excellent work! It's very inspiring!
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Amazing build, the finished product is awesome
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The speakers sound very crisp and very close to refrence i compared them to the actual song that was playing they sound almost exactly the same.
Good work!
Beautiful build. Those look fantastic.
Thank you!
Those speakers came out amazing!!!
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Awesome job, man. Thanks for sharing with us.
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Soo beautiful 2.1 speakers build and love the sound amazing
Glad you like it!
Awesome build. Your attention to all the little details shows visually, and I'm sure it shows in the sound of the final product. Also, that is one HUGE chamfer bit! 8D I've needed to relieve some thicker baffles in the past, and that thing would have made the job much easier. Lol.
Thanks so much! I will admit, I was a bit nervous trying that big router bit for the first time, but it cuts like a hot knife through butter.
Great build.
Interesting choice of subwoofer!
Thanks. Yes, the sub was sent to me with the coaxials by Tang Band and they suggested this combination. I was skeptical at first, but it actually performs rather well.
Very nice build.
Another very impressive build. Sounds good. Thanks man.
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Great job. They look and sound very impressive 👍
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Nice build. Great bass and imaging.
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Very, very good design, indeed! Worth replicating!
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Really beautiful job, man. Fantastic work! 😃
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Absolutely amazing. Nice design. 👍👌
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Thank you. Excellent craftsmenship!
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You always do the most beautiful work
Thank you I love your channel
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Beautiful! I could see these being an amazing setup for my bedroom. I currently have a pair of 15" 3 way horns in there! They have great palpability at low volume, and have the ability to blow out the window seals with minimal amp power. I bet your TB system sounded coherent and dynamic IRL, as it is very impressive through the TH-cam compression. The cabinetry work is just downright sexy!
Thanks man! They do sound great.
Love this video! I would to see more about how you have your shop set up. I’d love to start building speakers for my folks, but the tools are hard to come by.
Hey thank you! I am actually in the process of moving soon, so will have to set up the shop again from scratch, but maybe I can include the process as a few vids.
Wow grt bro u nailed it again such a beautifull build u always inspire us to go beyound our capabilities bro thumbs up love it
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Превосходная работа,браво!!!!
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Superb workmanship..baffle solidly build.. i watch other vlogger with thesame topic, but am not satisfied with their output, but with this one you nailed it good.. complete with sound test of the end product.. EXCELLENT..!!
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Hey it sounds amazing already through video streaming ,wish to be able to try that n build it myself
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Great build indeed!
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Amazing DIY skills! 👍👍
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Wow, those are really nice... Make me a pair!
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Good job reminds me of the kef speakers
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Royal Class Work.... thanks a lot for this..
Thank, Most welcome 😊
Impressive work 👍
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In One word Fantastic!
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Excellent. Nice work. I would love to buy this set
Many thanks!
U r awesome .. and ur creativity mind blowing
Thank you so much 😀
Really amazing. I know the sound doesn't fully translate through headphones but I think it's comparable to other recordings of speakers, and I have watched a lot of comparison videos, and can say that this sounds a lot better than any of those, at least for listening purposes. I had no idea that the capacitors etc. are so huge inside speakers.
Thank you. Yes, that cap I used is one of the biggest I've put in a crossover.
The higher the quality of audio-grade crossover components the larger they tend to be. They're designed to be resistant to external signals, not be noisy, and to be consistent in their performance. They aren't designed to be small. So if you can get better performance by using a less efficient capacitor, inductors, or resistor design then that's what audio component manufacturers prefer to do. Obviously this isn't the case for mass-produced speaker crossovers, as such components also cost a lot more. Even some extremely expensive speakers have lackluster crossover network components due to cost and space saving measures. So instead of using smaller electrolytic caps, someone designing speakers for audiophile equipment will prefer to use poly film capacitors because they offer a cleaner output and more predictable performance. Same is true for iron core inductors versus air core inductors. Iron core are cheaper because you can use smaller wire gauge and the iron makes them more efficient, but the iron also picks up transient magnetic flux and causes some small amount of smearing to the sound that is absent with air core inductors. It isn't necessary to use the more expensive components. You'll still get a decent or even a great sounding speaker at the end if you use common electronics components, but if you're taking the time and money to build everything yourself then you might as well not skimp too badly on your crossover network.
Nice build
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Excellent work!!, I really want to hear this on real life
yeah my English is not too good, but you get the point
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Awesome job 👍🏼
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These are awesome!
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, I dont know much about you or your builds but I can say this. I would pay dearly for a set of these with the subwoofer over a set of KEF LS50s any day.!!!!
Your work and creativity are 2nd to none, no shit. These with on board ICE AMPS would be epic. !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks man! It was a big and long project, but with great results. I have not personally heard the LS50's for myself, but the quality of these drivers are very high and they perform really well! I am sure they might give the LS50's a run for their money 😉
@@SoundBlab in india ..... 2021 .....
Ls50 price drop by 35% ...... From 1.3 lakh to 0.87 lakh .... Indian rupee. ....
Kef ls50 like. Nice!
Very nice sub woofer
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Crisp sound ❤️
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I really like this build. Awesome job on the aesthetics and eq balance.
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Beautiful and please for the next time, provide as well the details design for us🙏🙏. Im from Indonesia
nice crossover point 👍👍.
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Very nice video
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Great craftsmanship, beautiful build!
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Great video. Coax driver looks great. Tannoy/Fyne inspiration. Actually I'd be interested to hear how the Tangband W6-2313 (6" coax equivalent) would sound given the sub takes care of the lows.
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If you do not do custom build to order speakers and speaker systems, you should. You could make a freaking mint.!!!!!
Very nice i can hear the deep of lower frequency from my headphone
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Very very very amazing and coooool
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Wish I could just purchase these... Commission a set. I have LS50 Meta's now and I really love the Mofi sourcepoint 10 sound. If I could have these made with the 6.5" units or the 8" I would be in heaven...
Well done 😍
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Bagus banget....istimewa 🙏
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Sounds they produce is good
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Tang band vs mark Audio ....... Confused .... 😕😕 ..... ...
Full range only .....
See 28:12 .......
🔥🔥🔥🔥
True natural bass impact ....... So natural
Incredible sound!! One more subscribe!
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very nice
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beautiful and skilled build. I would like to see a build with a quartz sand filled baffle since the baffles from your speakers in this video screamed for doin' it. :)
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I prefer this over the KEF LS 50 any day and sounds a lot better
Perfect 👏👏👏
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Excellent human voice reproduction man.
I too have human voice reproduction, my fellow human.
Nice man
Ze herdenken me een beetje aan die schattige kefs
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Good job boetie!
Love that I’m not the only one that uses Sketchup to mock things up before breaking out the table saw.
I’m gonna be working on a “surround” system for a yoga studio soon, any advise on multi channel systems?
Parts Express web page Tech Talk, Paul Carmody's Overnight Sensations or Swope and 123Toid's TH-cam Dayton 8" sub with two passive radiators (or 2 for a large room). Inexpensive and effective.
Both good options
Stunning! You are a master of your craft and I am inspired by you. Your video editing skills are solid too! Only set of speakers I have "hand made" was a set of PE overnight sensations and I feel proud about that. I wish I had the wood working skills you do. My hobby is building portable boomboxes using vintage luggage. Anyway, just curious, any particular reason you use MDF over Birch ply?
Thanks. MDF is cheaper and easier to finish if using paint.
Epic build, really fancy trying this build. Not sure if my woodworking skills are good enough though.🤔
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Listening to headphones! what are you saying even my sound system sounds so good nice thanks to your sound test.. wonderful build never listened so nice sound produced from this kind of sound system. You are a legend.
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Как студийные мониторы. Очень качественно. Чистый звук.
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If there are any good people out there gift 🎁 me these dream speakers 😢❤
hey i just realized that you have designed the Mofy pointsource (or backwards i don't know) three years before they did it, you'd beat Andrew jones😀😀
I wonder if it would be possible to do the front baffle on a CNC.
Definitely a beautiful job!
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Really nice project there, but I wonder how do, speakers only, sound ... 8" drivers should cover the need of a sub. Not to mention that on sound demo tracks which have some bass, this one is kind of overwhelming (in a pleasant manner at least for me, but some of the audiophiles will find the joy without a sub). Keep it up with the good work !
Thanks. Actually, the 8” drivers sound great on their own, plenty of low down bass, but the sub just provides that extra bit of room pressure for tracks with bass. For me music is not only hearing, but feeling.
Is there any reasons why you choose using plywood and mdf? Why not build it using one single material instead of two?
I wanted the birch ply for the outside finish. Used MDF for the baffle since it paints better with better finished and less effort, and I wanted a painted finish for the baffle to contrast with the wood.n The inside is MDF to save on cost. Birch ply is more expensive here.
these sound so great, would you sell these?
Damn, I wish I could hear this ones in real life, I'm sure they will sound incredible, hell even the recording playing on my speakers sound amazing already lol
Thanks man!
Can't you use headphones? You'll get better sound than any computer speakers.
Adam Smith thats not right. My MoniTop 6510 are sound better than the most Headphones. But the most haven‘t speakers that are good as mine so.
Very nice Hanri, quick question.
Do you build the crossover based on manufacturer specs or
do you measure each driver first and base the crossover on actual measurements?
If you use measurements, how do you take them?
Thanks Richard! I get the TS values of each driver with the DATS from Parts Express, and make measurements with REW or FuzzMeasure. I use an UMIK-1 and an external sound card on MacBook Pro.
super dope
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VERY nice! Makes me wish I had spent the extra nickles on those drivers instead of the W8-2145's. Those were a simple build, no crossovers, but larger boxes. They sound pretty good with a flat response, but not good enough for reference standards; which is what I was hoping. These W8-2314's would probably get me there. Thanks for the video, nice work.
Thanks! Yes, any full range driver without a tweeter will still need some tweaking in the passband to really get a good result and flat FQ response.
Hey do you sell this already built by any chance?
Great builds, quality design and craftsmanship. Voice of a fellow South African?
Thanks. Yes I am!
Great built, thank you! Since this build is supported by a sub, wouldn`t it make more sense to use the Tang Band W6-2313 instead? Don't smaller drivers have advantages in regards of directionality, etc.? Comparing W6 and W8: What would be the better choice in terms of audio quality for a 2.1 (or even 2.2) setup?
Thanks! These drivers where sent to me by Tang Band with the instruction to do this build. The W6 would make for a smaller enclosure, which I would prefer, and will also work great with this sub. The W8 certainly has enough bass in the low end to do without a sub, but when we go deeper into the performance of this driver, we can see that it has limitations in the lower end in terms of excursion limits and thus distortion. The W8, when crossed over at around 8o to 100Hz, with a subwoofer will actually perform rather well with less distortion in the lower registers since it will not need to play there. Thus we get a cleaner sound.
@@SoundBlab what about w8 in sealed ..... ???? ..... Is works even better .... which less cone movement ..... Results stable waveguide (cone area as wave guide) for tweeter .....
And sub cross @ 150 hz .....
Fantastic Build!!!!! I see the Tang Band 8" Coaxial can only be ordered in bulk :(
You can try and contact them directly via website www.tb-speaker.com
@@SoundBlab Aaaah thank you!
Great design and video. What is the subs bass extention in your cabinet? Also the subs SPL's?
Thanks. Think the sub does go down to the mid 30s. SPL I think is also mid 80s.
Only down to 35hz? For the sub
Would you mind sharing what felt you line your cabinets with? Is it a wool/synthetic mix? Amazing as usual!
I use a 1/2inch or 12mm under carpet felt, I got mine from a shop that sells carpets.
very well made. I've almost never heard a factory made speaker and homemade that has good sound in the middle bass. I always have to mute 200hz - 400hz. you have to have a 5mh coil and 100uph capacitor together and then you put it in series and a resistor that regulates how much to dampen. This is with 4 ohm to 6 ohm speakers.
What are your thoughts and your opinion on this? Not many people make speakers and mute frequencies that's too much of! I talking about pasift crossover.
Thanks. I use good measurements and equipment to model the frequency response, then listen and tweak until I am happy with the result. I will then build the crossover and compare the real measurement with my modelled response to check its integrity. In this way you can really tweak the response to suit your taste very precisely with the fewest count of crossover parts possible. This speaker performs well across the passband and does not need any strange tweaking. The quality of the drivers are exceptional, and therefore we need less crossover parts to make this work really well.
Bafflestep... the problem with it is that it's dependent on speaker placement in the room
Awesome design work with the white angled facia on the plywood finish. But, I'm not a fan of the KEF replica drivers.
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Incredible sound, i want to make them in another cabinet. Can i make them in a cabinet with the same volume, but a different shape? Regards Mick
Thanks! It is possible, but the shape, ratio and size of the baffle is linked to the measurement results and the ultimately the crossover design. If you change it dramatically you will have to also adjust the crossover to compensate for the changes. Sometimes the difference in frequency response can be detrimental to sound.
Fantastic Build. I am currently trying to select drivers for my set up and these have been at the top of the list since I first laid Eyes on them. I do have one question on the 8" full range drivers. I was under the impression that a XO was not necessary for these drivers and that some people have added a separate tweeter if need be? Any help from anyone watching here would be great. I'm a newby!
Thanks! The woofer and tweeter are separate drivers mounted in a coaxial configuration, with the tweeter occupying the centre of the woofer. Therefore you still need to create a XO to make these work together. You can however not connect the tweeter and just use a separate tweeter in a normal 2-way configuration, but that would be counter intuitive to the benefits of a coaxial in terms of time and phase alignment.
@@SoundBlab Fantastic. Thanks for your reply. It is quite possible I was thinking oft this Tang Ban driver as well(Tang Band W8-2145). Again, thanks for the help and great job on the build and all of your others as well.
Nice !! 👍😁👍 looks lot alike diamond speakers from AVALON company ! And specs say sub is moving only 5mm ? Or is it +/-5mm ???
Thanks. I think its +-5mm.
Nice
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